Welcome to the Making Space podcast! This podcast comes out of a decade’s long partnership between Aspen Group and Barna. In this series, hosts Benjamin Windle and Jay Kim will be focusing on the impact that physical spaces have on the way people are formed and shaped as they experience Jesus, how they engage with the church, and interact with others in community. Learn more at https://www.aspengroup.com/makingspacepodcast and get a copy of Making Space for Inspiration here: https://shop.barna.com/products/making-space-for-inspiration-why-church-design-matters-in-ministry