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From Mascot to Mastery: Life Lessons in Leadership, Joy, and Resilience
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Have you ever wondered how being a high school mascot could shape a successful leadership journey in the business world? Join us as we share the inspiring story of Nate Welch, whose adventure began as the University of Nebraska's beloved mascot. From our unexpected first meeting at a Dancing with the Stars social event to becoming fast friends at a men's retreat, our bond has only deepened as we explore Nate's impactful work at Mailbox Money, a company addressing the pressing workforce housing crisis with innovative solutions. Nate's experiences in the mascot suit provided him with a unique perspective on leadership, teaching him the importance of supporting, rather than opposing, others—an approach he carries into his professional life.
Nate's journey from the world of sports entertainment to business highlights the balance between individual expression and team collaboration. Emphasizing the importance of being a constructive disruptor, Nate discusses how challenging the norm while respecting organizational systems can lead to positive change. We delve into the concept of "mailbox money" and its potential to improve community well-being through investments in affordable housing. By fostering environments where businesses and communities thrive together, Nate demonstrates that leadership isn't just about personal success—it's about uplifting others and driving collective progress.
Rounding out our conversation, we dive into the significance of resilience, perseverance, and understanding one's "why." Nate underscores the value of physical fitness and mental fortitude in achieving personal happiness and fulfillment. We explore how aligning actions with core values can lead to a more meaningful life, encouraging listeners to embrace gratitude and self-love. As we wrap up, we're left with a powerful reminder to cheer ourselves and others on, fostering a culture of positivity and support. Tune in to this episode for an engaging and heartfelt conversation with Nate Welch that will leave you inspired to lead with purpose and passion.
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CJ WehrkampHost
00:00
Today's episode is going to be amazing. Talk about a wild ride, a wild journey from mascot to mastery. I am so excited to have my good friend, new friend, nate Welch, on the show today to talk about how he went from being a mascot to taking that into mastery, with all the leadership lessons that he learned along the way. Let's dive in to today's episode. Well, nate, welcome to the show.
Nate WelchGuest
00:52
My man, absolutely hey thanks so much for having me. Yeah, this is going to be fun.
CJ WehrkampHost
00:56
Yeah, this is awesome. You know we met pretty non-traditionally, yeah, and so you know we're going to get into that story and let's kick it off with that story right now.
Nate WelchGuest
01:07
How about?
CJ WehrkampHost
01:08
that. So tell them, Nate, when was the first time you and I met?
Nate WelchGuest
01:11
Well, you and I met at the social meetup that we had when we were doing Dancing with the Stars.
CJ WehrkampHost
01:18
Yeah.
Nate WelchGuest
01:19
Which was such a pleasure to be part of, right, I mean, you know we can talk a little bit about that journey because that was just fantastic. But when we met, it was so interesting because you know, you get invited, yeah, you, you're notified and asked if you would be one of those celebrities, and of course you have to kind of check your email, right, like, hey, listen, not really at that, not a celebrity, right, but let's Right, yeah, happy to help if we can. So we go and, and that's the first time I ever, you know, I've seen you, seen your promotions and just been an admirer of what you're doing, especially in the health and fitness part, uh, but didn't know you from Adam, and that was that was that first time we met. Uh, and what was interesting was so we meet each other there, but we don't see each other throughout the whole process. We get paired up with our professional dancer, yep, and then, and then actually we kind of for some fun competitive part, we don't talk to each other.
02:12
No, we, you know, and in fact I remember in fact this was funny because we would always try to compete on on what kind of music we would be doing. We didn't want anyone to know. Yeah, I remember one specific time you were rehearsing at ballerina studio. Yeah, we played different music loud so that you guys would think that we were playing something else. Just to try to get in your head. And we weren't sure we're thinking, okay, if they walk by and they look in that's, they're gonna think that we're doing like hip-hop or something.
CJ WehrkampHost
02:39
Yeah, so we were playing like chumba wumba oh really, I get knocked down just because we were like well, we don't want them to know that we're doing like this lyrical thing.
Nate WelchGuest
02:48
So anyways but, but it was so much fun because you have this competitive aspect, yeah, and it really is for a great cause. Yeah, but what was so cool? And and you know you and I have talked about this, but where we met then at a res gen yeah retreat, a men's retreat, uh, and again, uh, you know someone else was coordinating that, because we ended up rooming together, yeah, and it was Ended up being roommates.
CJ WehrkampHost
03:09
Yeah, I'd never met you before that one night. And then all of a sudden it's like hey, here's your roommate. I'm like, yeah, this guy.
Nate WelchGuest
03:17
And I don't know if you're like this, but you know when you're, you know when you're younger, you're in high school, college, you're traveling you're used to kind of you know, bunking up with other people, Right yeah, when you become that adult professional. I was just kind of joking like no, we don't room together, we're adults.
CJ WehrkampHost
03:31
Right, so when you're at, this men's retreat.
Nate WelchGuest
03:33
All of a sudden it's oh no, we're now bunking up One queen bed.
CJ WehrkampHost
03:38
I just called safe. There was two queen beds.
Nate WelchGuest
03:42
But yeah, no, you're right, and so. But right away we just kind of kicked it off. And it was really cool because I mean, and anyone who knows you knows that you're just so genuine, I appreciate that you kind of opened right up and just you know, we chatted right away and again in that one queen bed, I felt safe, no two.
04:00
Yeah, that's right, we better. You're spreading rumors, but no, and that was so much fun to be able to get to know each other in that retreat and then, of course, be sharing that experience and, honestly, it really made the night of the performance even more fun.
CJ WehrkampHost
04:15
Yeah, it was for sure, Right, because it felt like we already knew each other. It felt like which, honestly I can say now, a friendship. But it felt like the friendship started to form. And, man, I always like talk to people like when's the last time you've made a new friend? A lot of times people don't, and so it was really cool being able to kind of have that connection go. I found out where you worked which is. I've never heard of it. So explain quick. Where do you work? What do you do, nate?
Nate WelchGuest
04:41
So I'm at Mailbox Money. We are a real estate development company. We do multifamily development. You know we really are focusing on helping to solve that modern workforce housing crisis that we have. I mean, the reality is I mean, even in South Dakota, but almost anywhere in the country, housing is an issue. Affordable housing is not only an issue on every level, but it's actually such an issue when it comes to really trying to figure out, to define it, because that modern workforce affordable housing is a semantic of words that we really often struggle with when we say affordable. Is that affordable to individuals like you and I in the professional realm years into our development? Is it new individuals right out of college, new individuals right out of high school? Is it individuals who really are struggling on their luck and down on some of the resources? What is affordable? And so that is a semantic that is often tough to define.
05:42
What we are working on really is that modern workforce housing for those professionals that so many businesses in Sioux Falls area in South Dakota and in the region are trying to recruit to fill those jobs. And so we are working really, really hard, and what's neat is we've got that really dialed in on how we've been able to do that. Happy to talk through that, but what I do is I work on our investor relations, I work on our community development. Our founder, dustin Hendrickson, is a fantastic visionary who also really does believe in creating wellness design for our tenants, and so we're very tenant-centric. And then, of course, we're in syndication when it comes to real estate, so we are also, then, making sure that we're keeping an eye out for our investors on good investments, and so we're building these quality apartments that not only fit and compliment the neighborhood and that community that they're in, but they also serve the tenants as a, as a very well-designed space, and they they serve the investor.
CJ WehrkampHost
06:44
Yeah, well, cool and we're going to. I love that because when I first met you I had never heard of mailbox money. You know, a lot of times, I think as let's just call us commoners that drive around our town, you see these big apartment complexes go up and I'm like man who's got the money to build these things or to put them up, and so kind of hearing a bit about mailbox money and how that all works and how it flows and brings that to life was very unique and interesting to me, because it's not a world that I'm familiarized with. I call myself that common right, so we're going to definitely dive more into that.
07:23
But then, as our friendship started to grow and and since then we've, you know, had a couple meetings in my office, we've shared a couple workouts together and just it's been fun to really dive in. You've got a very wild uh from from.
07:38
It almost seems nate, from one extreme uh of a career path to the next and so kind of as I even like titled this show like mascot to mastery. And it's just wild because learning about all the things that you've done, and so normally I just Nate, I shoot these podcasts and we just shoot off the hip and let's go.
08:02
But as you and I have gotten to know each other, there's a lot of different things that you've done and so as unorganized as possible, but yet organized, I've put together some questions to help guide us through a path that's going to really be fun, I think, to just showcase some of the different things that you've done, because there's some stuff that you've done. I'm like, no, you did that, that was you, you know, it was really cool. Uh, and then also they'll provide some really fun insight lessons on leadership, lessons on joy, lessons on resilience that I think our listeners can take away. Obviously, you know this is a health and fitness podcast, and if you want to live a healthy and fit life, you need to know how to lead yourself, you need to learn how to find joy in the journey, and you need to also know how to be resilient when things aren't going your way. So I think this is going to be awesome to dive in, so we're going to dive in.
08:58
Got myself my trusty little sheet here to keep us rocking, all right, so let's dive into this one here to keep us rocking, all right. So let's dive into this one. Okay, first off, real quick, before we even get into it. Mascot to mastery Nate. Where were you a mascot?
09:20
Yeah, so yeah, as you mentioned a neat eclectic background, so the first mascot I was was the Canaries the Sioux Falls, canaries, our minor league baseball team.
Nate WelchGuest
09:26
I was a junior in high school. I was a theater guy. I was in theater all the time. My parents were theater individuals and I had a couple of sisters that were good performers as well, and I was really blessed with a fantastic theater instructor and a mentor, frank Pope, at Roosevelt, anyway. So one of the things and I put this in some of my communications when I try to kind of help provide just lessons from that One of the things that Frank Pope would always tell us was he said there are plenty of people in the world that are there to tell you no.
10:02
So you do not have to be one of them. You don't have to be a person to tell you no, so you do not have to be one of them. You don't have to be a person to tell yourself no. So it would be to try out, to audition, to try right, so anyways. So it's my junior year and we're in a play and I'm chatting with a friend backstage In fact I think it was the miracle worker. I'm chatting with a friend and I'm asking her what she's doing this weekend and she goes oh, I'm going to try out for the Canaries mascot, oh, and I was like, oh, that's, that's kind of cool. And I was like that and she goes, you should totally do it. And I said, oh well, that'd be kind of fun. I heard you got like 25 bucks a game.
CJ WehrkampHost
10:35
And again in high school but yeah, that'd be kind of fun.
Nate WelchGuest
10:37
Hang out throw didn't get 25 bucks, great yeah. So I ended up going and in that audition there was a person who had performed a Power Ranger, person who had performed Barney and I think, a person who had performed for the Timberwolves mascot in this big pot of those, and so I kind of thought, okay, not going to get it.
10:55
Ended up getting it and that led on to being able to meet some people. So from there I then got a scholarship to the University of Nebraska to be their mascot some people. So from there I then got a scholarship to the University of Nebraska to be their mascot. I worked with the original Philly fanatic, a gentleman by the name of David Raymond fantastic guy. He hired me to work for his company, which was Raymond Entertainment Group. We were a traveling mascot team that we would travel around in the summer and go to minor league baseball games all over the country.
11:24
And then I also worked for the NCAA as the official mascot of the NCAA, jj Jumper, which was funny, and we traveled to NCAA basketball games division one, two and three basketball games all over the country, including final fours tournaments, summit league kind of things. Yeah, did that, including Final Fours tournaments, summit League kind of things. Yeah, did that. And then so those were a lot of the main ones have performed a couple. I have performed, you know, sdsus. I have not done USD, charlie Coyote, and then, of course, a handful of others throughout the area and the country.
CJ WehrkampHost
12:02
Yeah, and ended up having a pretty neat set of experiences with all of that. So a lot of different things come from that, but one of the questions that always kind of pops in my head when you see that mascot, they are full suited up. You don't have a clue who's in there, I mean unless you know like the average, the commoner right, you're the commoner there's no idea. Are you just sweating bullets?
Nate WelchGuest
12:24
Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, it is as I always say, it's a great weight loss program as well. You know, you do? You lose about three to five? I would lose about three to five pounds every performance, every performance, yeah and so, in fact, you know, when I was at Nebraska, we actually had an athletic scholarship.
CJ WehrkampHost
12:42
So we actually had an athletic scholarship.
Nate WelchGuest
12:43
So I had trainers, I had nutritionists, I had tutors. Those were very helpful. We had, you know, we got all of the actual, all the benefits that all the other college athletes did at Nebraska, and so I would have a trainer. And what was interesting was my freshman year. I'm, you know, my nutritionist. We needed to put more, more bulk on me. I was less than 3% body fat You're just losing, yeah, I'm losing more. And I would rollerblade to our workouts. I'd get my workout done and then I'm putting my rollerblades back on and my trainer would come up and she'd be like, what are you doing? I was like, oh, I'm just rolling, but I'm going to roll by rollerblade back to my dorm. She goes, you need to walk back to your dorm. Like you, you are burning so much energy and so many pounds in every day that you're, you know, working out. Plus then you perform.
13:34
She goes, you can't do this extra, extra stuff, and it was just to try to keep that up, and so you know, it was really fascinating on how much, how much you would sweat.
CJ WehrkampHost
13:43
Yeah. So tell me through that, through mascot and, and learning how to be a mascot and entertain the crowd, you know one thing that I I'm kind of wondering here how did your early experiences shape your leadership philosophy?
Nate WelchGuest
13:59
Yeah, you know, if you're kind of talking especially on that, on that the the side, specifically on mascotting and my my time in performing, you know, one of the things that I I always take with me is the coolest part of a mascot, and I think this is just one of those general things in life that you can take with you and I think, most of the time, when it comes to leadership, those general practices that we think of in life are often our best leadership capacities to it. So what I mean by that is, as a mascot, you cheer for. You don't cheer against, you cheer for your team, you cheer for your team to do your best. You continue to cheer on your team, as opposed to cheering against another team. And one of the best parts about that that, I think, also then took me to that next part of it is, at the end of the day, you're still a guy in a suit, right? You've got gridiron Heisman Trophy caliber players playing, yeah, and you are sometimes more recognizable in that suit than some of those players, and yet these are some of the best athletes in the world and they really are amazing.
15:16
And again, you're just a guy in a suit, and so what I think I often took with me was there also is a humility that we often should keep within ourself when it comes to the leadership capacity that we have. Whether you are that star up at the top, whether you are a cog in the middle, whether you're the commoner that isn't familiar with things right, having that ability to remember that we all have a part to play in the experience, I think, is one of the best things that, when I am at my best as a leader, I am constantly reminding myself that, well, I have that role to play and that is a very important role, and I'm proud of that role and, quite frankly, I'm going to be the best at it. I'm going to give it my best. I am still a piece of that and I need to always remember that, that humility to it and I think that that was one of those things that that I often could translate really quick into.
CJ WehrkampHost
16:13
So, no matter where you're at, yeah, absolutely, you have a part to do. Yeah, and really the best you can do is bring your best, absolutely, no matter what part you're playing.
Nate WelchGuest
16:23
I love that is bring your best, absolutely no matter what part you're playing. I love that, yeah, and you know we might talk about it later, but it really kind of allowed me to kind of come up with that expression of be unique and get in line, yeah, or, as you, you can always flip it, you know. Get in line but be unique, yeah. Being part of something, yeah, and yet offering yourself the, the reminder that you are of value, you are contributing, but you are contributing to something greater than you, I think, is something that that, when we remember that I think we are always we're, we're more often at our best.
CJ WehrkampHost
16:55
Yeah, you know and actually I'm glad that you brought that up, cause that's the next thing I had on here because you are, uh, planning to eventually release a book, and and one of the kind of phrases that you mentioned is get in line and be unique. And so in that book, you said that you're going to be really focusing on balancing individuality, but also using the systems of whatever organization or team that you're a part of, whatever organization or team that you're a part of, and so one thing that you talked about, too, is learning how to be a disruptor and not a destructor.
Nate WelchGuest
17:33
So help us understand what do you mean by that. So I mean, yeah, that's, that's often tough, because, right, we, we want to be disruptors, because one, it brings out individuality. It also challenges a status quo that I think sometimes we, unless it's challenged, we don't often do that right. So how many times have we heard, whether it be in work relations, board of directors relations, you know, volunteering or just general ways is well, you know, we've tried that already.
18:00
Yeah, or no, this is how we do it right. Yeah, that disruptor aspect allows us to be able to say, well, why do we do it this way? Or why haven't we tried again? Right. But at the same time, I think a lot of times we we have a, we have a challenge that is constantly going against us where we want to continue a goal that let's say an organization has, because it's very common and obviously I'm very close to that profession and you used to lead a chamber, yeah.
18:34
And I'm a big believer in it. So, in a chamber of commerce, the goal of a chamber of commerce really is to help unite businesses that, if you think about it, are actually competing against each other. They're competing for dollars, right, so they're competing against each other, but the goal of a chamber is to bring them together to ultimately work together for maybe, an advocacy that they need to a betterment of their community, whatever it might be. And in that unification, those businesses, still on a day-to-day, want to think of their individuality that allows them to be able to again compete for those dollars that sometimes are sparse. Now, what we often see is people want to jump out of that line and that system to create their own. They want to be unique, they want to be special.
19:22
So maybe if you're in line theoretically, like fifth in line on something, and you're like, well, if I go create my own, I'm going to go up and be first in line and then I'm going to get followers to come along with me, and the challenge to that, I think, is that might be a disruptive moment, but what it really is is it's often destructive, because you're part of a system, you step out of it and you're destructing that system, and even if you create your own now, you've created a system where people are just going to constantly jump out of that line, created a system where people are just going to constantly jump out of that line, and so now the unification that we often have in traditions, in strong organizations, gets weakened.
20:01
And so the difference between that disruptor of shaking the tree first, knocking it, and cutting it down, I think is a big difference between a strong organization, a strong community, a strong unification that constantly grows and gets bigger, better, rather than you know, than hurting itself. I mean, think of you know. Even back to health and fitness. Right, if we're doing a workout, we're gonna push ourself. One of the last workouts we did, I remember I kind of made the joke afterwards I said, well, clearly I haven't done legs for the last 700 days like I was in pain, yeah, but that's because it's break, it's it's it's it's tearing part of those muscles.
20:40
The muscles are going to get better. They're going to get stronger, yep, but if I go and do a uh you know way more squats than what I can, if I push way more weights than my body can actually take and I break that down, yeah, I'm not disrupting that, I'm destructing that. And so being able to know how do we push ourself and yet stay unified.
CJ WehrkampHost
20:59
Yeah, I think that's one of the big things Push it in a healthy way, yeah, yeah, and understand that.
21:02
It's good to ask questions of why we do things the way that we do, with the mindset of I want to learn so that I can possibly take what I know and then implement it into what you guys do or what we do and make it better, not because I want to do it my way, but because I want to contribute. So, are you doing it to conquer, or AKA take over, or are you doing it to contribute? Yes, I think would be another great way to look at it.
Nate WelchGuest
21:30
No, and I think you're right.
21:31
And you know, I've been blessed enough to be in different positions in my life where I've come in as a leader and a lot of times you'll see a leader who comes in and sometimes, or a person in a leadership position and they want to make it their own.
21:45
Yeah, and the intent behind that is often the difference between whether or not it's going to succeed or not. Yeah, one of the best pieces of advice I got when in those kinds of positions was you listen, you learn and then you lead. And so, just like you said, is being able to understand that background of it to be able to then understand the purpose of the direction moving forward. Sometimes people want to put a stamp of their own on it, so that they've got their own stamp on it and then it does. Then what happens is a mission creep and all of a sudden you're now not going along with really that overall goal, and so being able to understand how to listen, how to learn and then to lead really is, I think, a great and important balance. That is also sometimes like a pendulum You've got to kind of transfer back and forth.
CJ WehrkampHost
22:32
Yep, yeah, absolutely, because there's amazing people that are going to help you along the journey of wherever you step in at as well, I love that.
22:41
Okay cool, I love this. This is great. So, talking with you as well, through all the different things that you've been through and, let's be honest, every single person that's listening or watching we all face obstacles, we all face adversity, so let's talk a little bit about overcoming challenges with optimism. So you've faced a variety of professional challenges, but I really want to dive in and obviously this show isn't all just about ingraining faith into our listeners and whatnot, but I know you are a man of faith and graining faith into our listeners and whatnot, but I know you are a man of faith. So my question, I guess, is how has your faith helped you maintain hope?
Nate WelchGuest
23:22
and optimism, kind of during difficult times. Yeah, you know, no, you're absolutely right, and I would say that those are the most important things you know. And, of course, as the Bible says, you know, faith, hope and love, right. And so I think of faith translated into that optimism, that hope aspect of that, and then, of course, love. But what has, honestly, when I really really know I'm struggling, when I really know I'm getting beat down, is when I'm starting to lose hope and optimism, right, those are the last ones to go and I'm blessed and grateful to have those as being such strong things. And I'll be honest again I'm, you know, I'm a happy guy. I'm smiling a lot. There sometimes are people who don't like me because I'm smiling right.
24:08
Because you know they're mad at themselves for whatever reason, right, and so sometimes that that you know they're mad at themselves for whatever reason, right, and so sometimes that that one is is interesting how that can sometimes pierce that veil for you, right.
24:17
When people can be, can, can decide to dislike you because you, because of your hope and your optimism, and what I have always found, and I've been so grateful for it, is every time that I feel like I've gotten to the bottom of it, yeah, I all of a sudden realized I've got another layer there and that's I mean, and that's God working for you, right. And I think what has been so amazing is that I have, I have had to struggle with that at different times, like we all have. Yeah, and, and it's and it's it's relevant to each of us. But each time, even when we think we've hit something hard as we're digging on it, there's actually just something more to give there and we dig a little bit deeper. And that has, without a doubt, not only continued to help me go through adversity and different struggles and challenges, but has always allowed me then to be able to dig back to that spot and know that the next challenge I was.
CJ WehrkampHost
25:26
I was ready for yeah, and so realizing that you know, we do always have a little more we can give Like. I don't even remember exactly where this is used. I think it's something to be with like David Goggins you know who just mentally mindset his way through everything?
Nate WelchGuest
25:41
Fantastic, oh yeah, Love that guy so good.
CJ WehrkampHost
25:43
But talking about how, when you feel like you've given all you have, really you've only given, it's some like super small amount.
25:57
It's like, and I don't want to quote it because I'm going to get it wrong, but I want to say it's something like 30%. You still have 70 more percent to give, but our mindset gives up so much faster than what we actually can physically endure. And so it's like realizing that, hey, when you feel like you've hit it, when you've hit rock bottom a lot of times, it's that mind that hits it first. When you feel like you've hit it, when you've hit rock bottom a lot of times, it's that mind that hits it first. And because the mind is on top, it then makes the rest of your body believe that you can't give anymore, when in all reality you have a lot more that your body can actually go through and do. And so, yeah, just realizing there is that next level, you can keep on pushing, that's great. Let's kind of turn the corner here a little bit. Let's talk about lessons from sports entertainment right, we talked about it a little bit already.
26:37
You've you've been mascots and you've been an entertainer of sports, so working in sports entertainment must've been obviously full of just memorable moments right, so many. I bet right now there's so many things even running through your brain Like I wish there was a way that we could just put a projector of all the different fun things that kind of maybe ran through your brain. I can imagine, like you hanging from basketball hoops or you, you know, upside down, hanging from the jumbotron.
Nate WelchGuest
27:02
I don't know, I'm just thinking all these crazy things. There was one time up on the top of Memorial Stadium, but I think it increased our insurance, so I'm not allowed to talk about it very much.
CJ WehrkampHost
27:14
All right, push pause. We didn't talk about it very much. All right, push pause, we didn't talk about that. We didn't talk about that. But you know what's one of the lessons from those days that still influences how you approach leadership today, or how you approach just obstacles, or or, or anything today. What's? A lesson, as you were in sports entertainment, right, yeah, and you kind of already touched on it, but give us another one that still influences how you do it today.
Nate WelchGuest
27:35
You know, honestly, I, so I I would take actually on the business side of it Right. And so, if you think about it, sports entertainment is, you know what, what we often think about when we think of professional sports. We think of the glamor of NBA and NFL and NHL and PGA and all this amount of money that exists within these industries. Yeah, but also there are, of course, a lot of supporting industries. There are a lot of minor leagues that are just scraping by to be able to do it.
CJ WehrkampHost
28:08
Right and so.
Nate WelchGuest
28:09
I think what was really really fantastic lessons for me again was I came into it in the aspect of being a performer and being that mascot for this minor league team. I was able to see the amount of work that stadium facility individuals would be doing, the field crew would be doing, would be doing. I was changing in the locker room as the same places where they were going in between to go into their locker room where they could, you know, shower after a long day's work and then put on a nice set of clothes and then go out and have to work with sponsors and visitors and everything like that. Right, so the long, hard part of the days, and so, anyway, so I say all that by saying number one, it taught me another or it flexed another muscle that allowed me to think creatively and think outside the box, to also know and understand that there's a business aspect to that. There is a bottom line that you got to be able to figure out when and what you can do on that.
29:08
That was one of those most important things that it taught was just constantly figure out the challenge, figure out the problem, so that you can you can continue to work towards that goal, which was we got to work at a place where people paid money to come and and and and have and have joy, yeah, and so that was really really special to be able to put yourself in perspective to that, as well as understand what the responsibility was, and that allowed me to be able to balance, sort of being in the moment and also thinking practically. We talked about, you know, success and yet, at the same time, content. Right, hey, season's not going that great, but today we're working on the game, today we're working on this performance, today we're working on this or that, and so those, I think, are some of the really, really great lessons.
CJ WehrkampHost
29:59
You know, this just kind of popped into my head.
30:01
I don't know if it pertains to a whole lot or if it'll add much value, but you think about that and it's like the upkeep of a stadium, right, the, like you said, the field, the maintenance, all the things to keep this stadium looking like it does. When we walk in to watch that, you know two, three, four, five hour event, that game, and we see a two, three, four, five hour event or game and it's like amazing, that's, that's the highlight reel, right? What we don't see is all the work that goes in to make the field look the way it looks.
30:32
Yeah, all the work that goes in to make sure that all those little chairs are working the way that they're supposed to be working, that all the vendor stations have all the electricity and the power and the things that they need, and what that really just kind of made me realize as a business owner is, like man, isn't that the truth in business, but then even in life and then in health and fitness? You look at it in business, but then even in life and then in health and fitness. You look at it's like how much work goes in to to really achieving the goals that we're after, yep, and we just see that little short highlight reel, yep. And then we expect that our life should be that highlight reel. Yeah, we expect that man like these guys. Look at them. They're out there having fun, they're getting paid to play a game. That can be a thought that we have in our head.
Nate WelchGuest
31:19
Yeah, you know you say that, and so one of the things I think about that also again kind of translated into that was there were two things. One is when I've spoken with those who wanted to be in the internship programs of that, I would always give them one example of of something that I would a piece of advice, and they often would say that that was, that was something. So I'm going to mention that in a second because I always just loved it. But one of the other things about that, like you just said, is you can relate to it right as a business owner as as an employee to something there is there.
31:50
There's always a chair in the stadium I'm kind of thinking of this one off the top of my head, but there's always a chair in the stadium that could be a little tighter. Yeah, there is always a line that can move a little faster, yeah, and so one of the things also the the pleasure that I got was you know how we always have the expression I wish I could be a fly on the wall in the room.
CJ WehrkampHost
32:08
Yeah, as a mascot, you're a fly on that wall, right.
Nate WelchGuest
32:10
You are the center of it, but at the same time you're watching who you're playing with, but you're also looking at your surroundings and I'm and I'm watching people without them knowing it. And so one thing I started to really pick up was recognizing that empathy that people either have in practice or don't practice, and it allowed me to start reading people. I think, a little bit different, and so, for example, I would. You have an individual who maybe is always short-tempered with staff members. You have an individual who's short tempered to service staff members, right Sure, when I'm taking somebody out to dinner, if I'm interviewing them as an employer, if I'm taking out, even as a partner in something, I'll watch how they treat the serving staff. And if they aren't treating serving staff with respect, with understanding, even with some patience and some grace how do you think they're going to treat others?
33:03
And so by seeing how we treat those who we expect a lot but we don't offer much grace to it, I think it gives us a chance to kind of check in with it within ourself. And so that you know that's something that I was, I was able to see a lot of times is you'd see some who who would have patience for it it didn't mean their expectation wasn't good and didn't mean that they're, they just didn't, didn't mind that it was but their grace that they would give people how they would treat people. I think is really really something that I knew that when I'm at my best I've got that grace, I've got that empathy, and so that really was something. How can that help you?
CJ WehrkampHost
33:40
wherever you're at in your journey, let's say that you do have some really big goals that you want to achieve whether it's career goals, financial goals, relational goals, whatever. How can having that mindset mentality help you be able to realize that you might not be where you want to be yet, but you don't have to be where you want to be to still act with that mentality? Yeah, how can that help?
Nate WelchGuest
34:02
For me, I think it's like you say is, I think, setting those goals. Yeah, okay, there's a content that we can have in each day. I also think one of the most important things is setting, allowing yourself to understand what. What will make you content? Yeah Right, what are your expectations of those goals? What are your expectations of the day? What is a successful day? And if it is not, then set your boundaries, communicate your boundaries. Someone should not have to apologize by saying, hey, you know what? That's really not the service that I would expect at this place, at this game, whatever it is, so I'm going to go somewhere else. It's sort of like that expression of you know, leave the table, don't sit at the table, that you're not welcome, and so, by setting those boundaries, allows you, I think, to offer grace to those who might not be achieving it. Think to offer grace to those who might not be achieving it, but they also. It also allows you to set that boundary, to not say this is, this is okay, and I'm going to just let this keep going.
35:01
Right and I think that often can happen, because I think when we don't do that, I think what we do is we don't set that boundary. We still have the expectation and now it's just building right and it's building it's going to blow up.
CJ WehrkampHost
35:12
And so.
Nate WelchGuest
35:13
I think that's one of the things that we can do in whatever we're doing in our life, and setting in those goals, like you say, personal, professional, everything in between, allowing yourself to define what the little win is and what the big win is, and celebrate those little wins. And again, what was meant to get done gets done and you know, let everything be taken to the rest.
CJ WehrkampHost
35:38
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that. That's great, that is, that is good. I want to talk a bit about we talked, you know, when you're going through some of your valleys, when you're going through some of your struggles, your obstacles. You mentioned just the importance on really like having your why dialed in.
35:52
And so I want to talk about that because I think that pertains really to to every level of your life or area of your life. So, especially as it pertains to kind of health, fitness. But then just getting through the valley, um, how can we really identify or start to know our why, right Cause? Sometimes it's like, well, I don't really know what my why is Like. I just I want to achieve X, y, z. So how can you start to identify your why, and how is that going to help bring clarity and purpose to an individual's life?
Nate WelchGuest
36:26
Yeah, you know, I. I just I think that you know it's, it's sort of there. There's obviously a lot of expressions out there that kind of help us to connect with that. You know, for me, if, if you're looking at even just an angle, if you're going down one mile down the road, but you're off just two, two degrees, right, you're not going to achieve that goal, and so you need to be able to be be dialed in on that.
36:51
And, at the same time, I think what's really beautiful when it comes to truly knowing your why is your? Why is a big, big definition, but it's. It also is very specific of what that is, and so it allows you to be able to, and so it allows you to be able to kind of get rid of the I want to say kind of superficial stuff, right, like hey, I want nice cars, I want this nice, I want that nice Allowing yourself to truly understand what that is. And then the why. One of the things that I think of when I think of that is and again I'm going to get it wrong but there's a, there's a hierarchy of happiness, okay, and and I learned this in college and it basically and again I'm going to say words that I definitely know are not correct. So anyone with actual education is going to is going to say no, let's pronounce this way.
CJ WehrkampHost
37:41
It's like you saw, it's the ISO.
Nate WelchGuest
37:53
Yeah, you were the mascot. Yeah, yeah, exactly Like you can not do actions, don't talk. Yeah, yeah, so, but uh, it really is the four levels of happiness. The first level is the are those physical things okay? The second level is caring for someone else. The third level is someone else caring for you. And the fourth level, then, is basically recognizing that that there is a being out there, whatever your faith may tell you, that is greater than you, and that you are loved within that being right. So, in other words, that first level is the achievement right you and I have talked about. I love my Bronco, I love being able to drive in the sunshine, I love the sunshine hitting my face right, Take the top off and I'm up high.
38:33
I love having you know the new iPhone. I, you know, I just I enjoy those nice things. That's okay to have it right. I like being able to care for somebody. I am fulfilled when we built our friendship. It is fulfilling to have a great conversation with you and to walk away being like, wow, you know what? I think? I think you really enjoyed that conversation. It was really fun for us to talk, right. Yeah, we want to be able to contribute to something. Yeah. The next is we want someone to contribute to us, someone to love us, and so, of course, we find that in relationships and we want them to to love us, and then, of course, that that faith that we have. The challenge in that is each of those actually have a place, each of those have an importance. But the challenge that we have is when we put, if only in front of any one of them or in between any of them. If only I can get that Bronco, if only I can have this Bronco, if only I can have that new iPhone, right?
39:31
If only I could just care for that person who I just know. They like me, I, just I. If only I could do that, if only she could love me, if only. And then you know the if only. I sit on this, you know sinking boat, and I know that God's going to rescue me, even though he's sending a bunch of other boats to rescue me, right, that ability in being able to have that balance. And so when I say that, and I go back to the why, recognizing what is that? Four levels of happiness for you, and how, what is it truly? What does that look like? Why are we here? What is the legacy we want to leave? What is our purpose? And so again, for me, you know, like many, it's it's being a father, it's providing to my community, it's contributing to the world of which I live in, whatever that definition of that world is, whether it's within my house, whether it's in the block, the community, the state, the country, the world.
CJ WehrkampHost
40:24
You know, and I feel like this, we're going to release this on an episode after ours. I sat down with Tom Henderson.
Nate WelchGuest
40:29
Oh yeah, it was just awesome.
CJ WehrkampHost
40:30
We talked about relationships and whatnot, and that'll be after our episode um drops. But we talk in that episode. We talk about how a lot of times we wait because we think that there has to be a perfect scenario that has to play out before we can start doing something. I think the analogy that I used when, when Tom and I were talking, was in a relationship with our wife.
40:53
It's like, well, if my wife did X, y or Z, then I could show her love this way. And it's like, well, what if you just started showing her love the way that you would if X, y or Z and then watch you start showing her love that way, and then X, y or Z starts to just naturally happen. And so, with you knowing your why, it's like it doesn't. I don't care if it's actually already happening, but I know that I want it to happen. I know why I want it to happen, and so I'm going to live my life this way, because when I live my life this way, it will then attract my why to me? Yes, right, yeah.
Nate WelchGuest
41:31
And yeah, I think it's, I think it's. You know, another great example to that is the serenity prayer. Right, when you know your why, that serenity prayer really makes more sense, because it allows you to be able to say, look, I want to let me worry about the things I can control, let me not worry about the things I can't control, and let me know the difference, because then that way, when we're going towards that why, we're recognizing, you know what, the transactional aspect of if my wife will do this, then I'm going to do this. That's not connected to my why. My why is to be the best that I can be in this, and so I am going to do that. This is what I can control, this is what I can't control.
CJ WehrkampHost
42:06
Yeah, and sometimes I'll even take that now and I've even used your why, my why, to like these episodes.
42:13
Sometimes, I could go into this and it's like man, what do I want our listeners to get? And the truth is is like I don't I can control is the quality of conversation that you and I have, yeah, and at the end of the day, like, what do I want to get out of this? And I want to have a great conversation with my good buddy, nate, and if we end up dropping some type of knowledge or something that's either entertaining or valuable or educational for the listeners, that's all a bonus. Right, right, right. And so this this time, right here, like why? Cause I want to connect, and when we were connecting, when we weren't on the microphones, I took away so many great things. It's like man, I just wonder if somebody watching, listening, reviewing this thing could take away something to help them in their life.
Nate WelchGuest
43:02
Let's talk Well, and and you know, and I think that's another great example, because I think that you know to those listeners, you do hope right.
43:08
You're hoping they're providing something of value, but also, at the same time, it is also of their responsibility and opportunity to go all right. What is something I can take away from this? Like again, they might be listening to me like this this guy Nate, why is he on here? Like this guy's an idiot, why are they? You know they could, they could also they'll be thinking all right, yeah, this guy's an idiot. I wonder how he thinks and what someone I know that's kind of like him, and how can I understand that person a little bit more.
43:33
Right, like I mean again so that one might be a far stretch. If you're listening and you're like, yeah, no, he's an idiot.
CJ WehrkampHost
43:39
You can also confirm that, Like as I say I'm a recovering moron.
Nate WelchGuest
43:43
That's just all there is to it. I think we all are in some degree. Yeah, absolutely.
CJ WehrkampHost
43:48
You know, and that's what happens when you take the mascot suit off. Well, now people know who you are.
Nate WelchGuest
43:51
Yeah, that's right, yeah, exactly.
CJ WehrkampHost
43:53
It didn't matter if you had that mascot suit on. Let's dive into endurance and self-care. Oh sure, as it pertains you. Let me know that even in your, if I can ask how old are you? 43.
Nate WelchGuest
44:06
I was even thinking about that, because I was wishing happy birthday to somebody and so you said, though, that you turned 40, and in your forties you actually so.
CJ WehrkampHost
44:14
In the last three years, you actually got to suit up as Herbie. Yes, yeah, you know. So you're in your forties and you're losing. You said back in the day, you're losing three to five pounds every time you put on a performance. Oh, yeah, and so you're here, you're in your forties. What do you have? To do to take care of yourself and make sure that you are keeping accountable your health and your fitness, so that now you're in your forties, you can go put on the Ruby mascot and go do the thing.
Nate WelchGuest
44:43
Yeah, you know, yeah, that's it. It's sort of it reminds you a lot more, or the. That song means a lot more, that Toby Keith song. I ain't as good as I once was, but I'm as good once as I ever was.
CJ WehrkampHost
44:53
Kind of thing Right yeah.
Nate WelchGuest
44:54
Uh, but yeah. So you know, for uh, for content on that, it's at the university of Nebraska redesigned their Herbie Husker back to more of the traditional design that they had. Okay, some fun history off of that is. So when I went to college in 2000 to 2004, we had there's two mascots for Nebraska. You have a little red, big inflatable eight-year-old boy. He's six feet, six feet tall, or no, eight feet tall, okay, and then inflatable one. And then you have Herbie Husker, which basically, especially when I started, he was basically a short fat farmer, okay, and so, like, visually, visually they're actually not complimentary to each other because the short fat farmer and so, like, visually, they visually they're actually not complimentary to each other because the short fat farmer looks kind of funny walking around, but then the eight year old boy, eight foot tall, looks even funnier and so he just looks like a short fat farmer. So, anyways, we redesigned him a couple of years into it to more of a muscular, muscular, kind of looking like the Michigan state, you know, spartan mascot, anyways, kind of looking like the Michigan State, spartan mascot, anyways. They redesigned him then in 2022, back to the farmer version, but a little bit more built. So kind of a little mesh in between.
46:00
So through the years, the current coach of the Nebraska Spirit Squad is a dear friend. She was a dancer when I was on the team. She, her mascot and dance are all grouped together as a team, so she was a teammate and now is a coach and is doing a fantastic job building that program back up from all these different things. So, anyways, she's asked me to work with the mascots every now and then. In I think it was 2019, I ended up going to the Big Ten Media Days as her be out in Chicago, and so that was 2019. I ended up going to the Big Ten Media Days as Herbie out in Chicago, and so that was 2019. And then in 2022, they reintroduced Herbie to the spring football game and I performed in that. Yeah, that was really cool. And so the endurance side of that is you just got to one. You got to be ready for that, and I'll talk about that in a second. But here's one other cool part, and this is something I love sharing and what I challenge everybody to do yeah, again, I got to perform that when I was in college, you know, did it everything from 90,000 plus the Rose Bowl game, the Rose Bowl parade, all these different things.
47:01
Now, of course, you fast forward. I'm married, I got three kids. I got a 15 year old, a 12 year old and a seven year old-old. You never really think that your kids are going to be able to watch you perform, especially that youngest, that five-year-old. And having them get to see me perform, I tell you, is one of the biggest blessings in the world. And I say that when it comes to back to the question of hope and faith, is you got to keep those wins, you got to keep those nuggets, because when life beats you down, you got to find those things to go. Gosh, I'm really really lucky, right? So? So taking care of yourself physically is is really one of those things. Now, you know, you might not be jumping into a mascot suit, but I think of I take care of myself to, uh, to, so that I can have more energy to play with my kids. When my, when my middle daughter wants to play volleyball, I want to be helpful to them in that.
47:47
For me, I've never been motivated by working out to look good Sure, which obviously is understandable. I don't really have much to work with on this. So, like, why would you try to, you know, fix that rusty car. But the reality is that I want to be able to be fit enough. I want to be able to be healthy. I don't want to be a strain on on on my family. I want to be able to have the energy. I don't want to be the first one who goes, oh I'm too tired, right.
48:12
So for me, I have to find my motivation. So I go and I set a goal of running in a half marathon, not because I have any enjoyment in it, but it's because I know that if I set that goal, I'm scared to death that if I'm not prepped for it and ready for it, I'll hurt myself. Yeah, and so that's why I go out and run. That's why I go out and run on that next day and the next day and the next day. So setting those goals to understand my why is to be a healthy, ready father to be available for his kids and also, every now and then, maybe, be able to show him something I used to could do. Yeah, absolutely. And so being able to be ready for that on the physically fit side of it is why I do that.
48:52
So then I know that my why is not being motivated by looks. You know a good looking body. My why is because I want them. So I need to figure out what motivates me in that. And what motivates me is fear that I'll fail, and so that signing up for something that I'm scared of is why then I'll push to it.
49:12
Then the other reason of it, too, is, you know, I've definitely gone through some fun challenges, especially the last couple of years, and the reality is I had a good friend of mine. I was telling him even more details that even you know public wouldn't know about, and he just he looks at me, he goes Nate, how the heck are you still living, right, like I mean, how, how? How did you survive this? And I said cause I kept taking care of my body, because I knew that my mind needed it, because my mind was getting beat down, my heart was getting beat down, my hope and my faith was getting beat down. So I needed my body to lift that up, and so I would push my body so that my body was taking care of it. And then, when I could get through that, my heart, my hope, my faith my optimism.
CJ WehrkampHost
49:57
you're saying here that you can even use your physicality, your body, yeah, to to be that thing that you lean on when your mind and your heart, yeah, your hope, are taking a hit. Yep and man, and that's that's so important, because it's like, if your mind, your heart, your hope are taking a hit, yep and man, and that's so important, because it's like if your mind, your heart, your hope are taking a hit, and you're also unfit.
Nate WelchGuest
50:15
Yeah, if you're like, yeah, you're struggling for breath, that's gonna make you sad on every way. Yeah, yeah.
CJ WehrkampHost
50:21
You know, I feel like we really could we could talk hours, hours Three hour four hour episode. Guys, buckle up, we've only got three hours left and we'll be done. No, we are going to wrap here real soon. I want to talk, though, because one thing that did intrigue me was this mailbox money right.
Nate WelchGuest
50:35
I'm a commoner right. I'm a commoner.
CJ WehrkampHost
50:37
And so the thing that I wanted to know about that is I need education. Yeah, I just don't get it With mailbox money? Is there a way that a commoner can get involved or is there a way that a commoner can get involved or maybe someone watching or listening isn't a commoner and they kind of know a little bit about this field With mailbox money, how can the community or myself, or like, why does it benefit me to know about mailbox money?
Nate WelchGuest
51:03
Yeah, no, I think that's a great question. So you know, again, as I mentioned, we really are helping to work on solving that modern workforce housing crisis that we have. And so one thing that we're working on and we've been able to do it very we've been able to dial in because we have fantastic partners Our financial partners Boardwalk Wealth down in Dallas, our construction partners, veldco yeah, they are amazing at what they do and then, of course, dustin Hendrickson, our owner, really visions the property and, you know, with our ears kind of on the ground and knowing the communities and stuff, we're able to really again add to the community by building up these nice buildings that provide a good home for individuals. And so, if you think about it, if you think of it as an employer, you want your employees to be in a good, healthy, safe place. You want them to have a good place to go and call home. You want them to have it so that when they're working at work they're focused on that. When they're home, they're focused on that next level of their dreams, that motivation of what they have Right, and so that that aspect of building good quality housing in our community that also is affordable and finding ways for us to be able to continually advance and make it attractive and so different ways that people can be part of.
52:20
It really is one help support those multifamily buildings that are there. If you are looking to invest dollars, invest in your community, invest in those that want to invest back into the community and hold each other accountable on where those investments are, on how good they are and what we're doing with those dollars, because that helps us to raise that that tide that helps raise all of us. And so again there's there's a number of great developers out there. We're blessed and grateful to be one of those that that really continue to build good units, good properties, and also have good design in it so that again, our tenants have a good place to live.
CJ WehrkampHost
53:04
Yeah, no, that's so interesting because, yeah, like I said, you drive down the road and you see all these apartment complexes and sometimes, or multi-housing complexes, and sometimes you can think is like holy smokes, like so many of them are popping up. Well, that's a sign of our community growing, yep, and we need that because we need the workforce and we need to be able to have somewhere for these people to live and, like you said, I've had team members that haven't had the best housing situation. Yeah, it's it. It affects how they show up at work, because now they're like worried about what's happening at their house or whatever.
53:36
And then when they're at home, they can't even relax because they're worried about the neighborhood they live in. So it is very important, um, and so, yeah, that's just cool, I think, to learn more about mailbox money and what it is and what you guys do.
Nate WelchGuest
53:48
Absolutely. And again, as you mentioned, I think everybody can play a part in that and I think you know you kind of go back to that that you know mascot days, be a cheerleader for each other, right? Don't cheer against each other. I mean, there's going to be a. One thing might do this different or might not appease to this specific population right at the moment, or this one at that moment, but help cheer each other on and it's amazing at how much more you can get done by cheering for that moment rather than cheering against.
CJ WehrkampHost
54:16
I love that. You know, I think, as I look back on this conversation, that we had you saying that was, and you said it early on in the conversation, but that was one of the things that stuck in my head that I took away from our conversation. Is, man, no matter what, cheer for your team, cheer for your success, cheer for their success. Cheer for it, because that only brings out positivity, that only brings out good. Let's kind of leave them with one great thing and then just really talking to them about fun and fulfillment in life. I want to talk with them about how we can have fun being present and finding joy in where we're currently at.
55:01
No matter what, I don't know if they're having a good day or a bad day. No matter if it's a good or a bad day. How can we make sure that they are having the ability to find joy in where they're currently at?
Nate WelchGuest
55:11
Yeah. So you know, I, I think and this is not something new, but I think it is definitely. You know, give thanks, give, tell yourself, remind yourself two or three things you're thankful for. That's, that's not something new. So I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you one other one, that is, but it's great, it is. Yeah, exactly Like remind yourself what you're lucky to have.
55:32
But here's the other part in this. Again, I'll tie back to that mascot world of it. Yeah, love yourself. Like again, if I'm outperforming and I'm in a crowd of anything from, you know, 50 people to, again, 110,000 people or 7 million watching on TV, yeah, people, or 7 million watching on TV.
55:53
Yeah, if I don't want to be that mascot, if I don't want to be the character that I am, do you think I can get anybody else to smile, right? Do you think I can put any joy out there? I've got to love who I am and who I am in that moment Now. Do I want to be that mascot for the rest of my life? Do I want to be that professional mascot Some can make a really good career out of it Sure, but I'm loving myself at that moment and every time I can do that, it's a lot easier to spread joy to other people. Yeah, and so you've got to love yourself. You've got to love the character that you are. Doesn't mean you can't have more hopes of wanting to get better. Doesn't mean you can't hold yourself accountable, but give yourself some slack. Yeah, love yourself, love the moment you're in, and you will spread joy around, whatever circle you're around.
CJ WehrkampHost
56:37
Yeah, I love that, one thing that I've been doing personally for the last now a couple months. Every morning I have a little morning journal that I write in, and one of the questions that I answer every morning is what's one thing I can be proud and grateful of myself for? Yeah, absolutely, and some days I'll tell you some days it's harder than other days Like man, what am I proud of myself for? Like I'm not, I don't know, I haven't done a lot of great things, or and?
Nate WelchGuest
57:06
you think about it, but it's like no that's not the point, right. What's one?
CJ WehrkampHost
57:09
thing I can be proud of myself for Yep. And then it's like man, and the other day I wrote something goofy down Like I went and I played shuffleboard with my son rather than than stay upstairs while he plays his video games. And it was just what am I proud of myself for? I'm proud of myself for taking the time to go down and play shuffleboard with my boy. And it's like man, okay, cool, now do something else like that today. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So I love that.
57:34
Nate, great stuff. What a journey, mascot, to mastery, to leadership, making sure that you have what it takes to get through those lows. But thank you so much for taking the time and just spending it here with us, giving some knowledge to our viewers, our listeners. But man.
Nate WelchGuest
57:51
Is there anything else? Any last words? You want to leave them with? No again, thank you so much for doing this in these conversations. You're just a fantastic person to chat with. I get to watch your guys' podcasts a lot and so I really appreciate the discussions. Again, pleasure to be part of it and yeah, and again, thanks for tuning in and and hope everybody has a great day.
CJ WehrkampHost
58:13
Yeah, absolutely you guys. Hey, do me a favor, uh, like, subscribe and share this episode and, uh, I'm going to drop some links in the description, just different ways that you can connect with Nate, that you can learn more about him. Maybe you will find some cool pictures of him, uh, you know, when he was a mascot. But I'll drop some links so you can kind of creep up on Nate and figure more out about him. But you guys, have an awesome day today and make sure that you tune in for the next episode. Otherwise, go out. Be great today, you guys, be proud and love yourself.
