We Are Losing It
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We Are Losing It
Episode 70: Breaking Diet Culture
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Diet culture doesn’t always show up as a “diet.” Sometimes it sounds like “I can’t have that,” “I’ll start Monday,” or “I ruined it so I might as well keep going.” We get real about how those scripts kept us stuck for decades, and what finally helped us build healthy habits we can actually live with after losing over 100 pounds each.
We walk through the difference between dramatic resets and sustainable weight loss: smaller portions, meal prep that makes eating easier, and the kind of flexibility that keeps you consistent even when sleep is bad or plans change. We also talk honestly about tools like bariatric surgery and GLP-1 medications (including Zepbound) and why they’re helpful for some people, but never a substitute for mindset, nutrition basics, and routines that support long-term weight maintenance.
Then we zoom out to the bigger stuff: the restriction binge cycle, the pressure of the scale, and why health is more than a number. We share how we think about non-scale victories like energy, strength, blood work, and how your clothes fit, plus how we try to raise kids with food awareness instead of food shame. We also call out social media “highlight reel” bodies and why finding authentic support matters.
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Welcome Back And Our Story
SPEAKER_03Hi, I'm Stephanie and I'm Justy. And together we're losing it. We both lost over 100 pounds by developing healthy habits. And I also had weight loss surgery and used a GLP one medication. And I used a GLP1 medication and had skin removal surgery. We're really passionate about helping people learn to live a healthy lifestyle by sharing our experiences. But we're not doctors, so if you have questions, reach out to your medical team. And you may see our mascot Sancho pop up from time to time. And all three of us hope that you find our content useful.
Spotting Diet Culture In Real Life
SPEAKER_01Welcome back, friends. Um, we're here after a little hiatus, which what else is new? I feel like that's all that's the story of our life right now. That's the start of every one of our podcasts. I know, I know. We're just we're few and far in between. I feel like honestly, though, because I feel like we've kind of talked about so much that like I guess we could revisit topics too, but if you've already, you know, watched or heard it, then you've heard it all before. So um, but yeah, this one, and and I know the topic that we're gonna talk about today, I know that um we've definitely talked about a lot of these different things, but I don't think ever the topic directly, which is diet culture. And as I was thinking about it, I was just kind of like, you know, you we see a lot on social media, and I just see people saying, like, oh, like saying like I can't have that, or um, you know, just having that kind of diet mentality of like, oh, you know, I'm gonna start, you know, starting this workout tomorrow, who's gonna join me? And you know, things like that, like just all these, and that's not to say that there's anything wrong with that, but if you haven't worked out in like years and then all of a sudden you're starting something on Monday and you're trying to get people on board with you, that's my diet culture. Um so you know, just little things like that that I've seen, and I'm like, man, you know, it took I feel like it took us a really long time to get to a place where we just don't necessarily look at food like that as like this is bad or this is good or I can't have that, I can't have the burger, I can't have ice cream. Like you can, but it's just in how you choose to do it.
SPEAKER_03So and the same thing with working out too. Um, you know, if if you can't make it to the gym five days a week and work out for an hour, well, what can you do?
SPEAKER_01You know, right, exactly. Yeah, so it's and that it all ties back to the all or nothing thinking, which we've talked about so many times before because that's just that's who we've been for, I mean, what are we? We're about to be 50. So I know take off the last I don't know, five years or so. So 40 for about 45 years, we've been very like black and white. It's right, it's wrong, it's all or it's nothing. So to break 45 years of thoughts and habits is hard. It's really hard.
SPEAKER_03And especially without, I mean, you and I haven't like I don't I haven't gone to counseling for this. I haven't, I don't have like these big trauma things really that I need to work through or whatever. We have we just didn't have a lot of that, so we've kind of figured it out on our own or together and through this weight loss community. So it's been pretty, pretty cool how we've come around, I guess.
Fad Diets And Why They Fail
SPEAKER_01Right. And a lot of it's just because like I feel like we're just kind of self-taught in it and is who we've followed on our journeys and who we've like picked up things. And I think the thing about you and I is we're very logical, yeah. So like you will see something, and I'm not we're not gullible enough to like leave everything that we see or to be like, oh, um, you know, this new like pill that's out on the market, this must be magic. Let me go buy it. Like, I never bought into fads and stuff like that. Did I try every diet under the sun? I sure did because it's almost like you get so I'm gonna say desperate for a lack of better term. Like I did a juice fast for for actually I did it for a month straight, where all I drank, I had juiced all my own juice. I did that for a month, and I continued it on a little while after that because I did a juice fast, and let me tell you, I felt fantastic. I'm not gonna lie. I really did. I had like at first my energy dropped, and then about I would say like seven to ten days into it, my energy shot through the roof. Like I was like running around the house cleaning at like midnight. It was insane. Um, but I think it's just because my body was, I hate to use the word cleansed, but it kind of was. I didn't have any, it was all fruits and vegetables. I didn't have any, there's really no impurities in there besides where the health chemicals came on because I wasn't doing organic, but um, you know, so I did that for a while. Um, and then when I stair stepped down from that, I did vegan for a while. Um and I did feel great, but none of that was sustainable because deep down I love a burger. Right. I just and like a real burger, right? It's not for me. Right, exactly. It's just not for me. Will I eat an impossible burger? Yeah. But am I gonna say I'm never gonna have a beef burger again the rest of my life? It's fucking loot me. I love burgers, you know. So it just for me, yes, I felt great. It just was not sustainable for me. And some people make that change and they're able to keep that change and and and remain vegan or whatever the case is, but it just it's I know it's not for me. So why bother even trying to force myself into it?
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right. And I mean, I didn't try as many diets as you did because Steph is a very like planned, organized person. Um, and I am not. Uh so I'm like a hot mess express all the time. So to follow rules is not my thing. So um I have a really hard time with it. So even just vitamins and that sort of thing, like no.
SPEAKER_00Um, right?
SPEAKER_03I don't really followed a diet for more than like a week or so. It just I just can't. Um, but I would just do like not eat um or work out a lot, and none of it really made any of a difference. I would go down like 20 pounds and then stay there for a while because I got I couldn't do what I was doing to get there. I would creep up a little bit and go back down. And you know, I never really looked at what I was doing as like being healthy for me internally. It was all about getting skinny. It wasn't like how I felt, it wasn't how what I liked, it wasn't what I enjoyed, it wasn't for like pure health, it was just to lose weight.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And now like the end game, the end game was the did you ever do the where you put like your face that you cut a picture of your face out and put it on like a magazine picture of like somebody in a bikini or something? Oh, yeah. Like I did that and put it on my fridge because I just knew I was gonna be that chick in a bikini on the beach. Uh-huh. Okay. All right, Steph, that's what's gonna happen. So that was supposed to be my motivation. Uh-huh.
Small Changes That Actually Stick
SPEAKER_03We really tried everything, and but what we didn't try until five years ago or so. Well, Steph obviously had um the sleeve, and then I, after she had the sleeve, I kind of started a little bit of started my journey, and it was just really about making really small changes and being patient, just being like, okay, I'm making this change because it's better for me as a whole human, rather than it's better, I'm gonna be skinny. Um, and it was just small changes. I remember when I went from eating a whole pizza to a half, right? Like, honestly, and it wasn't I'm never eating pizza again. Now I eat one slice. And I'm satisfied with that. But it didn't, it didn't take me, it didn't happen overnight. It was like, okay, here's a whole Jack's pizza. Let me have that and a six pack of Modelo. And then now it's like, okay, well, I'm gonna still have the six pack of Modelo, but I mean a half of pizza, and then it's like, well, let me have a modelo. So it's like it was over time, and it was literally with like everything in my life, was just a little bit better every day. Um, right, yeah, and then it all settled to a certain point. Now I'm at a point where I'm settled um in a very healthy, non-dramatic, non-white knuckling. I will say Zetbound does help with that, but I'm also not the person on Zetbound who is wasting away because I want to be skinny.
Meal Prep And The Cost Myth
SPEAKER_01Right. No, same. And I I sometimes I have to remind myself like stuff, you gotta eat. Because it happened to me today. I was getting ready to um go pick Chelsea up from school, and I was like, I still haven't eaten lunch today. And I was like, uh, I'll just wait till I get back. And I'm like, well, that's dumb because by the time I get back, it's gonna be almost time for dinner. Right. So I made myself like I didn't, I wasn't really hungry, but I was like, I know I have to eat because I could have easily skipped it. Um and then but I know because I eat so little as it is anyway, skipping a meal is like for me, is a kind of a big deal. Like, I'm not trying to be malnourished. Right. Like I still want to be healthy, but I do remind myself that I have to eat. So and what worked out well for me is I only had like 15 minutes before I had to leave, but I meal prepped. So I had a little container in the fridge that I just pulled out, put it in the microwave for a minute and a half, and then ate it before I left. And it was, you know what I mean? So there was no, and that's the beautiful thing. There's no um, it's not so dramatic for us anymore. Like, well, if I excuse me, if I can't have, you know, if I can't have pizza, I don't want anything. Or like I'm craved, I don't rarely do I like really, really, really crave something. I just don't. I'm just like, what do I have? Oh, I have this. I think I had um it was turkey kobasa that I like sauteed with um coleslaw mix, so it was like the kobasa and cabbage kind of thing. Yeah, like so easy. It was like one of the quickest things I threw together. I've made four portions of it and I have them to just pull out and eat. So it's like, do I want to necessarily eat that every day? No, but I don't, I kind of don't care. I was like, Yeah, that's what I have, it's cool.
SPEAKER_03And you know, people not as glamorous as like a pizza, but you know, and people always say how um how expensive it is to eat healthy, but honestly, I eat the same stuff I ate when I was 300 pounds, I just don't eat as much of it, so it actually is cheaper. Right. Yeah. Like we had um we had pizza, I don't know, a couple weeks ago, maybe even a month ago. And instead of one night, it lasts to be like, I had it at night, I had it the next day for lunch, and then I had it the next day for lunch. And I mean, so that it's not it's not more expensive. It's if you have this, I can have this, I can't have that, then that's when it gets expensive. When you're like, oh, I can only eat this, I can only eat that. It's like, well, no, that's very dramatic. Like, you can eat whatever the hell you want. You can eat exactly what you're eating now, less of it instead of a whole plate, eat a smaller portion. And I know that sounds cliche, like you've heard it a hundred times, but it really does work, and it's not more expensive to eat healthy.
Restriction And The Binge Cycle
SPEAKER_01And I will tell you, the one in this sense, I can kind of see where you would say that. So, for example, you know, it's Tuesday, and we're gonna have some tacos, some some gringa tacos, and I was like, okay, I'm gonna make them with I kind of just want like ground beef because I rarely do I have ground beef, it's always ground turkey or ground chicken or um vegetarian ground beef. So when I was buying it, I was like, well, like there's the eight, like I got the lean ground beef, and yes, it costs more, it's more expensive, right? But I do eat less of it, so it's kind of like if you if you're eating the right portion, then it's probably still costing less than if you would have ate the giant portion of the meat that actually costs cheaper. So if you're looking at it per pound or per ounce, yeah, it costs more, but if you're eating it like a realistic portion, then it no longer costs more.
SPEAKER_03Right. And for me, it's kind of like as I went on my journey, and so what happens when you cut out foods or do a dramatic change in your diet is your body goes into like panic mode and it actually makes you crave more. And it's like, holy shit, whatever you're doing is uncomfortable and I don't like it. So I'm gonna make it worse. I'm gonna make you crave more, I'm gonna make your body uncomfortable. It's just gonna be horrible to do. But if you do small changes, like I never I it didn't hurt me to eat like one less piece of pizza. The pizza was and you know, I I remember saying, well, it just talks to me in the refrigerator, and I'm like, but it doesn't talk to me. Like that's really that's a lie and that's dramatic. Um not actually talking to me. Um what I need to do is drink some water and take my ass to bed.
SPEAKER_02Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And and it's it's about talking yourself out of the bullshit that you're telling yourself too because I used to make up all kinds, like I think I posted the other day. Um I what was it? Oh, I didn't sleep at night. And so I kind of just took a little more time to get to the gym. And the old me would have been like, oh, I didn't sleep, I can't go. It's like, well no. And then when I got there, I didn't want to do the workout I had planned. And I didn't do the workout I had planned. I did a different, but I did a different workout. So it's like you have to allow yourself to like pivot and not stick to this strict all or nothing rules because if that's the case, I wouldn't have worked out that day at all. And then I probably would have used that when if I was still in that mentality, I would have used that to be like, oh, I didn't sleep last night and eat chocolate cake.
SPEAKER_01Right, exactly.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean? And it's like, oh, I have chocolate cake, I might as well have pizza for dinner because I already ruined it and I'll start on the funding.
SPEAKER_01So that's that all or nothing thing thinking that we have, but it's also like the restriction because the more that you restrict, the more that you're gonna end up binging. There's never been a time when I said to myself, like, oh, I'm not like I'm not eating cookies, I'm not eating cookies. I love cookies. So to if I'm gonna continually tell myself that I'm I can't have them or I'm not gonna eat, I'm just not gonna eat them anymore. Well, guess what? I'm gonna end up doing when I do finally come and me and a cookie come face to face, I'm taking it and all of its friends as well. Because I'm gonna eat it all. Right. Because now, because I haven't allowed myself to enjoy it here and there, I'm gonna enjoy them all at one time. So it's like, you know, it's like you go from restriction to binge. Like for me, anyway, I can't speak for everybody, but for me, I go from restriction to binge like that. I'm a fucking addict.
SPEAKER_02That's what it comes down to.
SPEAKER_01That's my thing. Like for me, and I know you're a lot the same. Alcohol, I could take it or leave it. I haven't I haven't had a drink in a year, almost a year and a half now. I just it's not, I don't, I could care less. Food, right? No, no, no. Like, and then I know that's different because you have to eat to survive. It's like you don't ever have to drink alcohol, but you have to eat to survive, but it's making the choices that like suit you and suit what you need. And we talked about this a little bit um before we started recording that like you have to make the choice for you. Are you in maintenance and you can have a cookie here and there more often, or you do you really have a goal in mind and you know, you you're trying to lose weight, so yes, you can have that cookie, but it's probably gonna take you a little longer to get to your goal that way. So it's right, like you have to make that choice for yourself.
SPEAKER_03Like if you choose if you choose to eat the whole sleeve, then you just need to know that you're gonna be far further away from your goal, and you but to the first step is actually thinking about all that instead of just eating the cookies or restricting yourself, right? It's like working through how to um justify making a better choice for yourself, right? Um, which I've gotten really good at that. I mean, I'll I go to Codeman's house. I usually don't go till like seven, seven thirty at night because of our kids in school and grandkids and all that. And he's always bringing something home after getting his son from soccer, Chipotle, whatever. And he's not, he doesn't have a weight problem. But um, and he always asked me, Do you want something? And I'm just like, no, like I'm not I'm not eating that late. Like I'm I'm gonna eat my planned food and I'm just not eating that late. Um, and he's like, I don't know how you can just sit here and have someone else eat. He's like, it almost makes me feel uncomfortable to eat this delicious Chipotle in front of you. And I'm like, I'm fine though, like I'm satisfied. Right. I already ate. Yeah, and because I'm I'm already eight, I'm not hungry, and I don't really eat unless I'm hungry. Um, and I'm gonna feel really good when I go to bed tonight, and I'm gonna feel really great when I wake up in the morning because I have this hot tea and no drama.
SPEAKER_01And you know what's funny because Isaac would say to me, like, because I often just eat later. I just am not an early more. So if I don't eat my breakfast until let's say 10 o'clock, then that means that lunch is gonna be like one or two. So I eat, just eat later. And on days that we're gonna have dinner, and it's like, and he'll be like, Well, you ate so late, we're gonna we're off, we're off how does he say it? Like, we're off um, we're on different schedules now. And I'm like, well, that I mean that's okay.
SPEAKER_00You can eat when you want to eat, and I'll eat when I want to eat. Like, yeah, okay with that. We don't have to eat together.
SPEAKER_01I mean, it's nice. I do, I shouldn't say that because as a family, I know me growing up, we always ate together as a family, and there's something to be said for that. Um, but that doesn't mean that I can't be there with you and have the conversation with you or drink right and drink a glass of water. So I do understand the importance of that. Um, so I don't want to take away from that. But at the same time, it's just like, I mean, I'm not going to eat sooner because you you want to eat sooner. I get it if we're going out to eat, maybe you know, we've got to make that call. But if we're here at the house, like I'm just why don't we have to eat at the same time?
The Scale Trap And Real Health
SPEAKER_03When we were on vacation, the I ate on the schedule of everybody else, right? So, and I'm like, I'm not really hungry, but I know there's no food at the hotel. So I did have that that was a modification, but you know, I I was okay with it and I planned that it was gonna be like that. Um but another thing that we um wanted to talk about is like the scale and um like how we how we were raised to determine health, I guess, or a lot of people are it it's so hard with all these influencers and people online because there are some authentic people out there like us who are gonna show the the chingina on a um podcast, but I'm surprised mine's not showing as much because my camera's angled up a bit too, but I don't have to get it.
SPEAKER_01I don't know anyway.
SPEAKER_03So um not a bad angle for me. I'm okay with it. It's a good one, yeah. So um, you know, just thinking like skinny is is the goal and your weight is what represents your health, and that's just not we all know that's not true anymore. And but I still struggle with it with oh, I you know, I do all this working out and the scale's not going down, you know, um, or I'm not hitting the what the doctor recommends I should hit is 165. Well, I'm like 191 and I can't imagine being 165. I don't want to be that skinny. Um and so, but we had do have a lot of pressure on us to the scale. Um, and it's our generation, I think, more so um than than the current one because a lot of these younger women I see at the gym are really about strength and being strong and all that sort of thing. So I'm hopeful that it's turning around. But most people who are in this situation are our generation, right? Like um, yeah, and so really figuring out a way to balance the the all or nothing or the obsession with weight. Um, because we do, as we were losing weight, you know, it's like, oh, I lost five pounds this week. Oh, I lost two pounds this week, oh, I only lost a half a pound this week. I must be doing something wrong. But I wasn't. I was just my body.
SPEAKER_01But there's a million other factors in it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, and the body was just doing what it was doing with what I was doing to it. Not it's not right or wrong. Um when I go on vacation, I always gain weight. But I always also know that when I get back about a week later, I'm right back to normal because I'm bloated and I'm more sodium and all this stuff. So that diet mentality and that mentality that you have to that the scale doesn't go up and down and that you have to stay in this. I don't know how women stay in a a five-pound range. I go up five pounds in a week sometimes, you know.
SPEAKER_01Right. I don't weigh myself enough to know. I think I've I've been probably weighing myself like maybe once a month or once every three weeks or so. I just um just I can tell by the way my clothes fit. Um, I can tell by the way I feel how like how my face looks, like I could just tell different things. And so I get on the scale and I'm like, yeah, I'm right. Like it's still like within like two pounds of where I was the last two or three times I weighed in.
SPEAKER_03So and I'm a I'm a way I weigh all. Almost every morning I wake up. Um, well, I don't weigh when I stay at Codebands, but I wake up in the morning, I go make my coffee, I come in my bedroom, I'm I'm naked the whole time. And um, I just stand on the scale naked before I eat or drink anything. And it's just right by my bathroom door. And so that's just what I do. Um, but for me, a lot of I'm not obsessed with it, but it helps me, it helps me in a weird way justify the the ups and downs. Cause I know I'm not doing anything different to make it go up four pounds. I didn't eat 12,000 extra calories last week. You know what I mean? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it helps me just be like, okay, this is normal. Um, the up and down is normal. And then my low, you know, I always keep my low as my actual weight. So I was 191 at the lowest. So that's my actual weight. Um, but again, like I had totally skipped my menstrual cycle this month. And so I've had I went had all the symptoms, all the everything, the bloating, the cramps, the sensitive boobs. Uh it just never came. So my body is just welcome to my world. My body's just being is is kind of fucked up right now.
SPEAKER_02So yeah.
SPEAKER_03Um, but anyway.
Teaching Kids Food Choices
SPEAKER_01But yeah, I know uh growing up, um, you know, we did Weight Watchers and got up on the scale in front of everybody and the gym. Like we just we just did we did a lot. Um my family's overweight, everyone except for my brother. Right? That's your brother's skin. I know, everyone except for him. And my dad was um fairly like my dad has always been fairly average, I guess. I wouldn't say skinny, but he never he had a little bit of a belly, I guess. You know, uh probably around our age. Somewhere around there. But then, you know, as he got older, he's just he's just average, my dad's average, but the women in my family are all overweight, and it was the same thing for my mom's family, my dad's family overweight too. I have the sh body shape of my dad's side of the family. Um, and it's just all the women are overweight, and it's like, you know, and that's no excuse, but at the same time, it's like you're you're fighting your genes, like there's no, you know, it's just not the cards aren't lining up for me here. Like it's just like the whole family is like that. Um, and then you know, and I think that my mom did the best that she could in trying to um, you know, follow what we didn't have internet, you know, we had Britannia Encyclopedia Britannica or whatever. We didn't have the internet, so I mean there is a lot of misinformation out there, but she's just doing the best that she knows. Whatever the the news said that you should eat low fat, so here we are on a low fat diet. Now the news is saying you should eat low carb, so we're on a low carb diet. No different than the shit today, but we followed every fab there was. We went to the gym together, we played sports, we did all the things. Um, but I think it's important too is really just me taking all of that in and then just trying to make sure that I'm like with raising Chelsea that like being honest with her and just being more matter-of-fact about things and making her make decisions for herself versus me saying you can't have that or you can have that. Like just teaching to make smarter decisions because it's like you know, if you if you for example, we were at a um like a her, she had a soccer tournament, and I made her a deal that I would buy her a crumble cookie if she drank, finished her water all week because she was struggling with drinking water at school. So she has her big old Stanley. I'm like, it's not an accessory, you're actually supposed to drink that. Um so if she had finished it all week, I would buy her a crumble cookie. So I bought it for her before we went to the tournament. So she I was like, You're not eating the whole cookie though. And the look of horror on her face, I'm like, those cookies are like a thousand calories for the whole cookie. And then when you open it, I'm like, it's gigantic, child. It's like you're not gonna eat the whole thing. She's like, Yeah, you're right. So I just try to explain things in that sort of sense. She had probably about a third of it. Well, then after her two games at the tournament the next day, she finished the rest of the cookie. Now, mind you, the child's probably ravenous because she just played two games back to back. And I'm like, it's whatever, like you eat the cookie. But then later, when we went out to dinner, she asked if she could have dessert. And I was like, I'm not gonna tell you no, but I want you to make the decision for yourself, knowing that you ate probably 600 calories worth of a cookie earlier. So if that's the choice that you want to make, then you can make that choice for yourself. But I'm just gonna lay the facts out there, and you she's like, Why are you making me decide? I'm not the one that says I want to be a pro athlete. So that's the decision that you have to make. I can't make it for you. And she didn't order dessert, but I want him, I want her to be and feel empowered enough to make an educated decision and not just say, No, you can't have that.
SPEAKER_03Yes, you like because she's genetics against her, too, with her mom isn't her mom isn't thin. Um and you know, so both sides of the family, yeah.
Body Positivity Without Denial
SPEAKER_01Uh-huh. The women, I don't know why women get the raw end of the deal, man. Right.
SPEAKER_03Well, and you know, another thing I was um I was I don't know, I struggle with this, and this is kind of the diet, I guess a kind of a I don't know if I want to call it a fad now or whatever, but it's like body positivity and loving yourself, right? So I struggle with that because you absolutely everybody has value in whatever shape or size they're in, right? But true body positivity and self-love is doing things that make you healthier that align with health. Accepting your size in this moment is fantastic, but not doing anything about the fact that you are diabetic or high blood pressure or you can't tie your shoes, or you know what I mean? Like right, that's not self-love. That's not self-love. It's just not, it's making an excuse for you to stay comfortable, right? Uncomfortably. Right, no, exactly. Yeah, right. And so, and so there's like opposite ends of the spectrum here. There's these diet fads on the internet where it's like, oh, skinny, skinny, skinny. What is the Ozzie Odd Osborne's daughter, Lord Help? Kelly, Kelly Osborne, yeah. Right. And then we have these body positive influencers who are morbidly obese. And um, that's not where we want to be either. Right. Yeah, yeah. So I have a lot of snows at every stage, but are you?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you said it well, like love, love yourself where you are, like give your give yourself the respect, um, your body, the respect that it deserves, but at the same time, giving it the respect it deserves is treating it better, right? And treating it better is by making one like better, one healthier choice at a time, one small choice at a time. And that's funny because how it feels. Chelsea to me, actually, she said it to me yesterday. She's like, My friend so-and-so said, Um, I don't even remember what friend, but she said she she's said something like, Why are your parents so strict? And I was like, Um, little bitch. I was like, and she said, Well, she's like, I don't think they're strict. I think they're just trying to teach me the like best way to do things. And she's like, I don't know that they're strict. I was like, Yeah, I'm like, if we were strict, like you probably wouldn't have a phone. You know what I mean? Like, we let you do things, it's just we're gonna guide you and give you, like, you know, try to. I actually, I mean, we really do try to empower her to make decisions for herself. Like, when it came time to try out for soccer clubs, it's like she was kind of wanting to leave the one that we're that we're currently with, and it's like we kind of want to leave there too, but we want her to make the decision. So we try to empower her to make her own decisions, and she decided to leave the club and go to a new one. That's a huge decision to make because she's leaving her comfort zone and going somewhere completely different with coaches she doesn't know, people she doesn't know. But it's we don't want to ever tell her here's what you have to do. We want to give you all of the knowledge and the tools for you to make that decision yourself. If I see you're making a terrible decision, we're probably gonna intervene. Right.
SPEAKER_03When you think about us when we were younger, and again, our generation is just different. We were told everything what we're eating, what we're doing. Like, we didn't have a choice. I I didn't have a choice of what I was eating for dinner, and I was putting my plate because there's people starving in Africa, right?
SPEAKER_01They are right, and we could ship that food off to Africa too. So right.
SPEAKER_03So now um empowering kids within reason to make their own choices is something that I think is going to be very helpful for this whole diet mentality. Um, you know, Lucas, he he's so cute. He like that's my grandson. He wants he is healthy, it is important to him, and he'll tell you that. He's like, Well, you know, I I like blueberries and bananas and I like to drink water, and I'm teaching him that. I didn't teach my kids that. And so when when we go into the the genetics of things, yeah, there are genetics that our families are both big, but there's also habits around those genetics that supported the genetics, right? So so changing the habits, you you can't really change your genetics, but you kind of can change it.
SPEAKER_01You can redirect it, yeah. Because then down the road, yeah, down the road, then it won't you won't cut the won't not coming from a unhealthy household. Like if you're if if if right now we're teaching healthy lifestyle, she's gonna continue to live a healthy lifestyle and will likely teach her kids to live the same way. Right. We don't fry food here, like we're not, you know what I mean? Like we're not, we just don't we just don't do that. Right. Listen, I like fried chicken though. I'm just gonna go get it that one time that I want it in a year. Right.
SPEAKER_03I'm not gonna buy it by a fryer and then everything I I eat is fried because I have one in my kitchen.
SPEAKER_01Um and and so it's kind of breaking breaking the what did they say, like breaking the chain or breaking the cycle.
SPEAKER_03Right. And there's still genetics. Like I'm a five foot, you know, nine girl with I'm I'm not petite, I'm not a small frame at all. I'm never gonna be petite. I can't change that. I can change the amount of fat that's on my body by what I put in it and how I work it out, right? So you're never gonna be tall. Um no, but you can change how much you have a petite.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. I do have a petite frame, but it again, it's how much, how much is that petite frame padded? Right. Right. I mean, my ring size, I have a four and a half ring finger, like that's like a child size, right?
SPEAKER_03And I have an eight and I have no fat on my finger. So right, exactly. Um, so there is, like I said, there is genetics, but also you can make healthy choices. So you can't be like, oh, well, my whole family's fat, so I'm just gonna be fat. It's like, no, you can make choices to be better than you are right now.
SPEAKER_01Um that's laying in your shitty diaper when you just accept it and go with it.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. Yeah. Um let's see, what else were you doing? Um I'm looking at the notes here.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I know, me too. I think we covered most of it, honestly. Me too. You know, and I think so. Some key things are just like being flexible um and just knowing that just because that's how you've always done it, doesn't mean that's how you have to continue doing it. Because what do they say, if you do what if you continue to do what you've always done, you'll get what you've always got. Right. So it's kind of like you have to you have to change, you have to make a change if you want something to change. Um, so I think that's a big thing. Um, if you do have kids or grandkids, like trying to break that cycle, but doing it, it's it's hard. It's hard to do it in a delicate manner, you know. But I'll tell you what, she knows how to read a food label, she knows how to see what the portion size is and make a decision for herself, right?
SPEAKER_03And reframing what health is, um, you know, because like I was taught the healthy is skinny, right? Healthy was me at you know, 14 being 120 pounds, not 190 pounds. Um, but I'm 190 pounds now. I mean, I'm not 14, and I'm healthy. Um, I can say that with 100% certainty of all the people I know, I'm very healthy. So um, so the way that we think about health, uh not just being the scale, but being how we what we put into our body, how we nourish ourselves, our energy levels, our muscle tone, our you know, body fat percentage, all of that kind of stuff, our the way our heart is beating, the way that we're our blood work is coming back, like all that stuff is health. It's not just the scale.
SPEAKER_01And we're not afraid to go to the doctor anymore. I don't know if you were I hated going to the doctor now. I'm like, oh, I have a doctor's appointment. Like, oh, huh.
SPEAKER_03Right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And really, and in another one too, and we talked about a little bit, is like learning how to eat because we ate because it was morning, we ate because it was lunchtime, we ate because there was food there. We ate because it was uh someone died, we ate because someone got married, we ate because there was a party, uh, we ate because you know, Stacy bought donuts. We ate, we didn't eat, we never ever, I never once thought, oh, am I hungry? Should I eat this or not? And now I do. Now it's like, oh wait, yeah, there's donuts, but I know what donuts taste like, and I'm not hungry.
SPEAKER_01Stale ass donut. Right. Yeah, like I'm not gonna eat that stale ass donut. I'm gonna eat a gourmet donut if I'm eating a donut. Like I'm going to like a gourmet donut.
SPEAKER_03And I'm gonna enjoy the hell out of that damn thing. Now I I have uh five, six now, French bakeries. And if you think that's not hard to not just pop a macaron in my mouth every day, um, and I'm not gonna say that I don't, um, but I'm not getting a six pack.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_03You know what I mean? So um, so anyway, so yeah, like reframing what health is and like how you measure health is really important. Um and then also unlearning the extreme food rules, right? I like there's really is should be no rules around food. I mean, it's like it's like you having a conversation with yourself about what you're putting in your body.
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_03And then if you choose to put A or B or C, if you made that choice out of um the making a decision for what's best for your body or for your future plans or for what you want most in life rather than what you want right now, chances are you're gonna make a difference, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. That's another thing that I try to teach too is fueling your body. And I try to teach Chelsea that too. I'm like, you wouldn't put like like the uh now, listen, she's 10, 11 now, doesn't know the difference between what gas goes in a lawnmower, but I was like, you wouldn't put gas for the lawnmower into your car. Right. Um, because you're it's gonna run differently. I was like, so we don't want to put, you know, you you've got to fuel your body the way that that your body needs to be fueled, like you're an athlete, you need to eat in order to fuel yourself to be able to run around on a field all day. Um, you know, I was like, you can't just put any old gas in your car. So you wouldn't just put any old gas into your body. I was like, you just have to treat your body better. And I ha make her like think through like, hey, how did you feel after practice today? Do you feel like you had or a game or whatever? Do you feel like you had the energy to get through it? Do you feel like you know you did the right thing? And she'll say, like, yeah or no, like so she knows by what she ate before how she felt like while she was playing. So it's kind of like associating that and making it make sense because if it clicks here, then she'll get it and she'll understand and then she'll want to eat the right thing.
SPEAKER_03And I never have said, Oh my gosh, I feel like shit after eating a healthy meal, like a salad with some chicken and light dressing, right? I've never felt like I've never said that. I have after eating hamburger and fries and a brownie with some ice cream pop, right? Right. Um, I've never said, oh my gosh, I wish I didn't work out today. Um, I might have said that workout was hard, but I feel better because I did it. You know what I mean? Right. I've never regretted go working out. I regret every morning when I wake up and I'm going to the gym. People are like, oh my gosh, it's it's so easy for you. No, the fuck it's not. Right. Every morning. I'm like, God damn.
SPEAKER_01Uh I've heard you message me before. Can you tell me I'm supposed to be going to the gym? Right. Tell me to get out of bed.
Social Media Reality And Support
SPEAKER_03I tell Christy all the time. So I I work out with a girl named Christy. She she's really good at it. She goes every day at five, uh, 6 30. And I'm like, if I'm not here tomorrow, you text me that I'm a fucking bitch. And she's like, okay. So um and she will. And she will. Um, so so yeah, and and and having people around you that support you, I I think that that is is huge because um I've you guys all know my dating struggles, but I've dated men who like kind of not pushed food on me, but kind of just that's all they wanted to do was go out to dinner or get drinks. And I'm just like, oh no, like that is not my lifestyle at all. Right. And right, you know, Codeman's gonna eat what he's gonna eat, but he's never gonna be like like, no, you have to have some or why aren't you having some? He's like, Okay, cool, like you do you, and he doesn't drink, so there's no pushing there at all. Um, so it's about aligning you with healthy people. My friend group, my close friend group, um are all women my age, some a little bit younger. Um, but we all work out, and that's where I met him was at the gym, you know. I don't hang out with the type of people I used to hang out with because it doesn't align with um my goals. So right yep.
SPEAKER_00All right. Let me see.
SPEAKER_01I think we really did cover the one the one last thing was um about comparison. I did just yeah, notice that like social media and comparison. So like social media it's great and it's also bad at the same time. Just because you see, first of all, you see people they are doing and selling and whatever anything that they can to make a dollar, to get a like, to get more followers. Like you have to figure out who's genuine and who's not, and not just hop on board with you know the next whatever or someone that looks like they've got it all together. Because listen, social media is nine times out of ten a highlight reel for people. You don't see the bad. Um, you know, you don't see right now you can see our turkey next, but you don't a lot of times there's angles and there's you know, there's there's people know how to take a picture at a certain angle. I know people that know how to take a picture at a certain angle. Okay, I'm like, you don't look like that in person. Please believe there's people here that know what you look like in person, right?
SPEAKER_03Maybe I'll do one tomorrow of me kind of just like standing normal and then standing like at an angle. Yeah, we both should do that. Let's do it. I'm gonna do that picture tomorrow. I'm gonna do the gym, me just standing with normal with my shoulders, you know, whatever. And I mean, I don't have a belly anymore because it was cut off, but um uh yeah, just standing normal and then I'll like pose and put my little butt out and twist my top and yeah. So and then we'll just compare them because I think it's important that people I'll try.
SPEAKER_01I don't know if I could pose very well, but I'll try.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. So I think it's important that when you're following people and looking at influencers that you're looking at like authentic ones. Um Instagram versus reality. Instagram versus reality. And if somebody is on there saying, Oh, I take Osimpic, it's great. I only eat Doritos today, they're not the right one.
SPEAKER_01That's not the person for you, right?
Take One Next Best Step
SPEAKER_03Literally, I saw that somewhere. It was months ago, but I'm like, what the fuck? Are you serious? We're selling this to people, right? Exactly. Um listen, Steph and I we're we're very open about being on Zep bound, um, and it's been fantastic for us. Um, but we're we're using it as a tool to help us in our toolbox of other stuff to be healthy humans. It's not the miracle drug, right? It's not I lost the weight without it. So um it's just helping us maintain it. Um so so yeah, I think that was a lot of information. Um and hopefully you found it uh helpful.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, helpful, and that you can try to reframe if you if you've if any of this resonates with you and you feel like you're that type of person that's like labeling food as good or bad, or you're starting the gym every Monday, or you know, you're you're joining the next step diet or whatever the heck it is. Like if you if if you're doing anything like that and and you want to break free from that, just think about some of the things that we talked about and just take one next best step, one next best thing. Don't start a six-day a week, uh six day a week, six days, yeah, six-day a week gym thing, and I'm gonna meal prep seven days a week. Like, don't don't do that to yourself. Start small, right? Pick one thing and then build on it, and pick another thing and then build on it. Right. Yeah, and just build from there. And if you have you need the motivation or you need what could my next step be, like our DMs are always open. You can reach out to us because we can tell you we've we've taken a lot of next steps. I'm not saying they were all perfect, but we've taken a lot of next steps. So any like words of encouragement that we could give, tag us in a post, we will encourage you. We we can be some rah rah chicks for sure.
SPEAKER_03So for sure, yeah.
SPEAKER_01For sure. Yeah, yeah. Justy can help you get out of bed in the morning to go to the gym. She'll call you a bitch if you don't show up. Right.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's what you're into.
Wrap Up And What’s Next
SPEAKER_03Right. You know, we all have our things. We like. Oh. And you know, another another thing that I think is really important too that I I would have um done in my bigger days um with my kind of all or nothing or people-pleasing mentality that I used to have. Um, Codeman doesn't work out. He plays a whole lot of golf. Um, but I wait, I'll stay at his house. And instead of staying in bed with him, he doesn't wake up until like 7.15. Actually, he leaves at 7.15, so like 6.30. I'm out of, I'm out of his house by like 5.45. And and my old Justy would have been like, I would have put myself second to spend time with him. Um, and then put my goals and my um fitness and health on the back burner. And I that's what I did with my career, that's what I did with men, that's what I do with my kids, that's what I did with a lot of things. Um, because I just didn't feel that I could put myself or should put myself first. And now that like you didn't deserve it. Yeah, like that shit's not happening now. Um and it did it's not because I'm skinnier, it's because I've done the the mental work. So um, so anyway, that's that. All right. All right. Well, we don't know what we're talking about next.
SPEAKER_01No, we barely knew what we were talking about today. So we'll come up with something.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll come up with something. And I think I'll put something on um Instagram as well, maybe just like ideas or what do you guys want to know? I get random questions um quite a bit. Um, like I said, we answer them all the time. So if you have any questions, let us know. Um, and I think we need to do our quarterly. When are we? Did we do our quarterly goals?
SPEAKER_01I don't think we did. At this point, we're about to have to do uh mid-year goals. Right? Um is June.
SPEAKER_03And I usually do really good at those, but I'm failing at one of them. So um that would be the budget.
SPEAKER_01I don't even remember what mine are.
SPEAKER_03So that's hilarious. So yeah, maybe maybe maybe we'll do that one next. So um, kind of like a mid-year, a mid-year thing. Um yeah. Alrighty. Well, have a good night.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Look, I was about to touch the screen again. I'm telling you guys, I keep going to tap the screen on my laptop, and it is not a touch screen. So that's funny. That's where I am today. But anyway, thanks for joining us, and we will see you next time. Bye. Bye.