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EP147 — Experience Matters: You Don’t Get Better by Avoiding (w/ Samer)

• Miguel Sanchez

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A comeback, a gut-check, and a blueprint for doing hard things on purpose.


In this episode, I break down how six months of Brazilian jiu-jitsu stripped away ego, exposed blind spots, and rebuilt confidence from the ground up. No shortcuts, no highlight reels—just the slow burn of intentional reps that turn panic into poise.


We explore the subtle ways real learning happens: your body recognizing patterns before your mind can name them, training partners becoming unexpected teachers, and the right room turning courage into a habit.


But this conversation isn’t really about BJJ. It’s about becoming the kind of person who shows up with intention, protects their environment, and builds health as the foundation for everything else. We dig into practical mindset shifts—why attendance isn’t intention, why the only person worth comparing yourself to is day-one you, and what to do when progress feels invisible.


It’s not about being like us. It’s about becoming the best you.

And that only happens when you intentionally place yourself in positions where you will intelligently fail.


The real question is this:

Will you have the courage to keep showing up even when results aren’t visible yet?

Most won’t. Most quit. Most claim, “I tried my best,” while knowing deep down they didn’t give themselves enough time to gather evidence—evidence of discipline, evidence of consistency, evidence that change was already happening.


I use my own life as an example, but the values and lessons here apply to any path, any craft, any pursuit worth doing.


Tune in and enjoy the episode.

And as always—thank you for listening.

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SPEAKER_01:

Hello, hello, and welcome back everybody to Compounding Daily. I'm your host, Miguel Sanchez. Welcome to episode 147. Uh uh episode that I'm going to consider special just because I haven't had my boy here in a very long time. So let's start it off with what's up, Sam. What's going on? What's up, man? It's good to be here. Yeah, I'm I'm grateful to have you here. It's been too long. Uh you'll you'll you'll see how much better I've gotten. Right? Because that was the purpose of being of being alone in here. Like before, I was piggybacking off of conversations that you and Gino would continue for me when I hit roadblocks. And I had to figure out, like, damn, what if Sam can't make it one day? What if Gino's not around? You know what I mean? And now I gotta record an episode.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's been a long time. It's been over a year.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, dude. I was yeah, it took me a long time to finally get comfortable and press that record button and just allow my thoughts to flow as opposed to trying to be analytical about it. Like, what are we gonna talk about? And and what did we speak about that already? And and now I'm just like Yeah, we used to sit there for like 30 minutes to an hour before we recorded. Yeah, that was mainly my fault. Now that I reflect on it, just a lot of procrastination, just being hard on myself, is really a lack of confidence more than anything. Like I'll in my head, I'm like, oh, I just really want to give people value. And it's like, yeah, but what's value? Because what I consider value, some people might not consider valuable. So now it's kind of subjective depending on the individual. Talk about whatever. So uh clearly this is an episode where me and Sam are gonna engage in conversation here. This is not an interview of Samur. Yes, it is. If you guys don't know Samur, um, if you are new to the page, uh maybe you are listening to the most recent episodes, but Samur was um one of the original co-hosts uh when the podcast first took off, and uh he was there as a friend and as a as a supporter because I was uh I was in a place of uncertainty. I knew I had to start the podcast, but I didn't know in which direction I was gonna go, or the things that we were gonna speak about, or the things that we were gonna do. So um as the podcast grew, I realized I was relying on them too much. I was relying on you guys a lot. And and I remember the anxiety I would feel when I would come up to you and say, like, hey, I'll see you this Sunday, and you're like, Oh, I can't. I gotta go see my mom or something. And now I'm just like, oh no. I gotta go. Now I really gotta think, you know what I mean? So uh I'm I'm really excited to have you here. Uh, before we get into today's conversation, um, I still want to keep the the habits of the podcast alive. And and what I'm emphasizing on is the importance of a Monday morning, uh, especially during the holiday season. If you follow the podcast this week, I had uh a morning message about the importance of of realizing and observing what happens during the holiday season. For most people, the holiday season becomes an excuse, it becomes the reason why they're not going to continue pursuing discipline and consistency. Because for most of the year they said, you know, oh, I'm gonna be in shape for summer. Summer came, you weren't in shape, and now you're like, oh, I really need to get in shape. But guess what? Now the holidays are here, and now you're saying, well, Christmas is here, Thanksgiving is here, New Year's is here, I might as well wait till next year. And I'm trying to emphasize on the fact that while you're doing that, whoever in your mind is your competition, they're getting ahead of you because they're not taking the days off. Because uh during the holidays, while you're stuffing your face, they're stuffing their face after the workout, which is what I do. You know what I mean? Like it's it's it's not a sacrifice, it's a moderation thing. So it's Monday, the beginning of a brand new week. Most people are gonna show up and say, Man, I can't believe it. Thanksgiving's already over. Uh, is it Friday yet? I can't wait for the next four-day weekend. And I say that that's a shitty attitude that leads you to a place of disappointment and most importantly, a place of regret. So if you don't want to be at a place of regret by the end of this year, do something with purpose. Tell yourself, by the end of this year, I want to accomplish A, B, and C and do that. So this New Year's isn't a man. I know I said I was gonna do all of this, and now you didn't do any of it, and there you are trying to justify your lack of effort to your friends or your family or most importantly, yourself. So, with that being said, happy Monday, good attitude, set goals, and let's get right into it. Let's do it. All right, Samur. Why are you sorry? I was just I'm dude. So um uh as I told Samur before we got into the studio today, uh, I didn't want this to be a an interview where I'm interviewing him, nor did I want it to be a already planned topic. So I'll tell you what's on my mind and we'll we'll go from there. So uh something I haven't spoken a lot about, uh, because I, as I've said before, I like to gather evidence, right? I like to gather facts before I tell people I'm doing something, because uh anybody could sign up for a gym and half-ass it for a few weeks and say, I'm going to the gym. You know what I mean? But I rather go to the gym for a few months, gather proof that I've lost weight, that I've gotten better, that I'm understanding workout routines. And then I started telling people, you know, and I didn't even have to tell people, they're like, Hey, are you working out? And I'm just like, uh, yeah, actually I am, I'm losing weight. So it's been a long time since I challenged myself with something like that. Um, and especially in the physical part. So if you don't know, um, if you've been uh not following me on social media, and I haven't spoken about it on the podcast, but if you guys aren't aware, for the last going on almost six months now, I've been practicing uh Brazilian jujitsu. And uh I know that that's like a common trend. I feel like now that I'm doing it, I'm seeing it a lot more. It feels like it's growing.

SPEAKER_00:

I think it is growing, but you do notice it a lot more when you start. Yeah. Because now like your your social media feeds just give you all the jujitsu stuff and you start looking for it's like one of it's like that law, you know, where if you look for something hard enough, you'll find it. Oh, you start seeing it. Yeah, you like you look for your own car, and all of a sudden everyone drives your car.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Same concept. Same concept. Yeah, so so now I'm seeing it a lot lately. So maybe I feel like I'm the one who's like late to the show kind of deal. But I want to emphasize on on because remember, the goal with this podcast is never to just tell you about what I'm doing so you could pat me in the back. I don't care about those things. What I want to focus on is providing you, the listener, with value and value in the form of understanding that the things that I practice that have made me better are not unique to me. And the people like Samura, for example, that I surround myself with, maybe we don't repeat the same things verbatim or or literally the same exact schedule, but the values and the things that we practice are generally always within the same scope of work. And today's message, I want it to be I want the value to be emphasized on the fact that you have to go through the difficulties, you have to go through the pain, there is no way around it in order to start benefiting from the thing that you're trying to achieve. And I was like, Oh, what's a great way that I can paint that picture? And every time, every time I said time aside to think about it, it was always the the jujitsu. It just kept my mind, kept taking me back to jujitsu. And here's why. Because if if you know me for a while, like you do, Samur, if you've been listening to the show for a while, then you're like, Oh, this guy's motivational, this guy's always happy. And and that, as funny as it is, makes me laugh because it's not true at all. Like there the Samur knows very well, like I'm not always happy. Sometimes I'm not uh in a in a cheerful mood, and sometimes I don't want to do the things that I know I have to do. And when I started jujitsu, right, uh what uh June 11th, I remember the day exact. On June 11th, when I started jujitsu, I I approached it with an arrogant attitude, right? Because I'm like, I'm a bodybuilder. Like if if anything, I may not judge jujitsu, but I'm not weak, right? That's what I told myself. And I told myself, I've done difficult things before. How hard can this be? Two very dumb questions because it's one of the hardest things I've ever done.

SPEAKER_00:

I told you not. I told you basically I told Miguel to not start with that attitude, and he did it anyways.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. Well, I wanted to experience for myself, yeah, you know, and and I watched jujitsu for a few weeks prior to, right? Uh, from a lack of understanding, like I obviously didn't know what I was observing. Like uh, like most people, I'm sure I was thinking the same thing, like, oh, it's just two dudes rolling, like two dudes just fighting on the ground. Like, when is an arm, you know, I'm thinking to myself, stupid things like when is an arm gonna get broken, or like when is somebody gonna get choked out? And it's not that easy, no, you know, to to do it or to you know uh defend yourself against it if you don't know what you're doing. Um, so my life for the last six months has gone from uh posting every day at the gym five to six times a week to like now I'm barely posting at the gym, even though I am going, and I've shifted my focus to something that reminded me of the importance of trying new things. Because when I got to jujitsu, my confidence was high in regards to I know I am the kind of person that can do difficult things because I just did a bodybuilding show that was extremely difficult. But where the arrogance came in is where I told myself, like, because I've done something difficult before, I'm gonna do something difficult and that's new and excel at it. And excel at it, exactly. Yeah, and to somebody who has said, I'm gonna be a speaker and now I speak, and I'm gonna be a bodybuilder and now I bodybuild. When I told myself I'm gonna start jujitsu, in my head, I'm like, I'm gonna be a killer at jujitsu, right? And then guys, if I could well, we're I'm gonna I'll start recording more videos, but man, there's a reason why I didn't post about it for the first five months, and for the first five months, it's literally been like they're they're they're not trying to kill me, but I've been fighting for my life, right? I've been I show up, and uh the the most adamant person in my head who've I've only rolled with twice is Chris, 83 years old, right? Is he? No, no, he's uh 73, I think. 73? Oh, I'm a decade off. The point is a man 40, 50 years older than me, right, who in today's world you would see and be like, oh, look at the old man. Like, do you need help, sir? Can I carry your bags? That dude will choke you out, man.

SPEAKER_00:

And he Chris does not like when I first met him, I thought he was in his 60s. Just because I've never seen a person in their 70s. Me personally, I've never seen a person in their 70s that functional. Yeah. Like he doesn't have a limp, he walks, he you know, he cracks jokes, yeah. He hosts events at his house. Like, this guy is living fully. Yeah, he's fully he is like an example, I think. He's just and he's a killer, he's a black bell of what it is.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, and the dude's doing work. So imagine uh the kind of character that I showed up as at jujitsu, and and my I'm looking at you know, smaller people, older people, and I'm like, all right, listen, they'll they're probably gonna beat my ass. Right? I'm like, they're probably gonna beat my ass, but not that bad. And no, I was I was so wrong. And um, if Samura recalls that first month, it was me battling a lot of my uh inner voice, because my confidence was just like, dude, it's been a month, and and you're just not you're not getting better, like you're you you're getting wrecked by everybody, and obviously everybody just kept telling me, dude, just keep showing up. And the thing is that I already knew that because that's the same thing that you're told in bodybuilding, dude. Just keep showing up, just keep the reps in, you know. But for some reason I couldn't correlate the two. Like, I was just like, why am I not good at this yet? Like, I've been doing it now for a month, no progress whatsoever. I think I had two months still.

SPEAKER_00:

I was still like like I think it's different because with bodybuilding, you're kind of comparing yourself to yourself most of the time. You might look at another guy in the gym and be like, oh, he's pretty jacked, but like you don't know how long he's been lifting or whatever. With jujitsu, you have belts, right? So and you're comparing yourself to other white belts all the time. So if you're not doing what you think you should be doing in your head during roles with other white belts, you think you're not improving, but you are like you are every single time you go to class, you get better. But you might not see it for another year or so. It's just like again, it adds up those little little steps. Yeah, same thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

And and that's why I that's where I wanted to emphasize on the value of today's conversation, right? The understanding that you don't get good just because you show up, you get good because you show up with intention, right? So, like my goal uh is not I'm gonna be the best Brazilian jujitsu guy in the world. It's not happening. Far, far, far, far, far from that. But I told myself, if I just show up long enough and suffer long enough, by the law of nature, I have to get better. It just it just I it it has to work in that favor, right? And I feel like most people lack that that thought. Like, hey, if you just keep enduring, eventually something will give. And either what gives is you, because you're weak and fragile and full of excuses, or what gives is that wall that you've been beating yourself into for the last few months, right? So, like now, fast forward and again, uh detach my ego, right? Uh anybody who's listening to this, I know nothing, but in the now I'm approaching month six and I can feel it. My conversations went like because I carpal with Samura, went from like, bro, why I'm just getting wrecked, right? There's a saying in jiu-jitsu that either you're the hammer or you're the nail. And dude, for five months, I just been the nail, bro. Like, I just been getting wrecked, and and like my body hurts like never before. Uh, Trey, if you're listening to this, you may not agree with this, but you haven't experienced it, so you don't know. But jujitsu hurts more than bodybuilding. The soreness I felt from a leg day, I don't care if the workout was three hours long. It's nowhere in comparison to another human being trying to fucking, you know, twist your arm and and and literally pressure you until you can't breathe anymore. It it literally made me realize that there is so much to to this gift called life that you don't know that you're missing out on until you go out and experience. And dude, I did I hate to sound like a pussy, but you know, I I I literally wanted to give up so many times. Like I was just like, dude, like where is the fun? Is it where is the fun in this? Like this is just I just come here, great workout. Like I was always, even after an ass beating, I was sweating my ass off. But like, you know, I'm on day day 50 something of 75 hard now. I haven't lost much weight this 75 hard. Like, it's like I've lost um a little over 10 pounds, but I'm just like, dude, is it because my body stressed? Because I'm just like putting it through through this uh amount of stress, because that's what it is, just stress multiple times a week. And then as time progresses, I just have gotten a little bit better and a little bit better. Uh, but understand something as I've gotten better, so have the people who have been there before me andor that arrived there at the same time as me. So, like it's never a game of catching up because I'm not catching up to anybody, it's a game of comparing myself to who I was, right? Uh to who I am now, and I'll never forget I was rolling, I was rolling, I'm pretty sure it was with a black belt, because it sounds like something a black belt would say. But it the after we finished rolling, after five minutes of literally, I'd pretty sure I tapped like three times, it just it was bad, just going through it. He says, Listen, man, if if you compare yourself today to who you were the first day you walked in here, who you are now would beat the shit out of that guy who walked in here the first time. 100%. And that literally was like, yo, that is so true. Cause I could sweep day one, Miguel, right? I I can I can take the back from day one, Miguel, easily. You know what I mean? Because like he doesn't know anything exactly, but he's strong.

SPEAKER_00:

It's really hard to always remember that, you know.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

Especially just like I don't know, most people don't know what's like how to even move. I don't know if if I was to ask you, like, what did you do these last five months to get better at jujitsu? Yeah, you'd tell me, Oh, I just showed up. That's literally the only thing I would say. But yeah. Like, what actually happened? Like, why did you get better? Did you like go home? Did you memorize like this sweep, this sweep, this sweep from this position? No, you just you kind of just learned how to move. Yeah. But you can't you can't say exactly what happened. Like, but now you have this instinct where if I'm trying to like get my arm underneath you, you won't you really don't like it. Yeah. You don't know why. You just realize your body learned that every time I did that, you suffered. Yeah. And it's just like that's learning. Yes, you can you can only get that that type of learning from trying something new. Yeah. It's like learning a new language. You know, when you're a kid, how did you pick up English? You don't know. You just heard people speak it and your your brain just took it in. Started observing. Yeah, you have to do new things. You have to.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

It's weird. Dude, and so that that perspective changed everything for me. Um dude, because like you asked a great question, right? How did I get better? If you know me, I would answer it just like Samura said. I just kept showing up. I always love to dissect something like that, right? Because like you, I just kept showing up. People are like, oh, so I just gotta keep going. Yeah, you can't just show up. It's more than just showing up, right? Because I've seen people uh without judgment, right? Because I don't know what people are going through, but I've seen people that showed up around the same time that I did. Like I can see like we're both not wearing a gi or no gi. We just showed up, it's our first day, our first week. And I can see the dude who, as the coaches teaching fundamentals, is spacing out, is looking at the hire belts, is going to get water, even though we haven't done anything yet. You know what I mean? It's just like you're kind of not paying attention. And as time progresses, you see those people kind of not being left behind, but uh you can tell they're not reaching their full potential. Yeah, yeah. You know, and and for me to have that that understanding, like, how did I get better? How did I get better is by not allowing myself to quit, which still kind of lines up with you know, keep showing up, but not allowing yourself to quit is different, right? Because you can show up and have already given up. Yeah, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I'm just gonna go, but I'm not really getting better. With that attitude, you're gonna show up in that much. You know, but if you show up, right? My algorithm has picked up jujitsu. Uh my conversations with you obviously are now uh dominantly, you know, evolving around jujitsu. Cause I I've I've peeked into a different world that has gathered my interest. Like when when I tell you that for most of my life, thank God I wasn't out there trying to fight people because I would have been just getting my ass beat. You know, it's different. I'm now 31 years old, and when's the last time you've defended yourself against another human being? Right? To put that into perspective, right? And bodybuilding, I'm trying to push the guy next to me away, like, dude, get away from me, don't touch me, stand in your box. You know, now it's a box with two people in it, and you gotta defend yourself, right? That perspective instilled fear in me, uh, discouragement, doubt, especially showing up and just being wrecked. I told Samura for over a year, wait till this bodybuilding show is done, I'm gonna beat the shit out of you, dude. And then I showed up and I it's been six months. I'm I still can't beat Samura, dude.

SPEAKER_00:

No, it's it's it's like it's like chess. It's so fun. I mean, I I think I think when I when I first started, it was the same thing that you're saying now, is like how I have to defend myself, like I have to I was nervous, like I you know, I get butterflies before, especially competition, it's just still the same. I mean it's that's harder. But now I kind of look at it as like I get to go play a video game. You're kind of just like curious, ooh, I'm gonna try this new sweep I learned or this new throw I learned. And it's all laughs. You know, especially when you're training, it's all laughs. And if someone's not laughing, especially when I make a joke or something when we're rolling, I I won't roll with them again. Because they're taking it too seriously. Yes. I don't think it should be like a toxic culture of like, I'm gonna get you like, oh, you got got like I hurt you. That sucks. That's a terrible environment, and you're not gonna grow in that environment. So if the place you go is like that, or like the you know, the professors are super strict and you know they're yelling at students, and you just you gotta leave. Like you honestly, Manchester VJ J. Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna plug it in. That's where we go, honestly. Like I'm sure they would have. Owners are great, like everyone's amazing, so it's just the environment matters a lot. So if you want to get better at something, you do have to put yourself in the right environment. Oh, you're touching oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01:

Let's add to that, right? Let's add to that, because that's actually very, very important, right? I've never been to another school, but I've heard of other schools, and I've heard like when I've heard I don't know if this is true or not, but imagine this scenario. I heard that when you show up for the first time ever, like you know, day one, hey, I'm just here, I want to try it out. Like one of the things they do is they don't put you through a uh like a shark attack, as they would say in the military, where all the higher belts are gonna beat the shell. But it yeah, but it's almost like they're gonna uh they're gonna uh test you. Like No, I don't think that's true. You know what I mean? Like that was my biggest concern. I'm like, dude, I'm gonna show up, and again, not egotistically speaking, I am jacked compared to your average people, you know what I mean? So I'm like, I'm gonna show up, they're gonna see a strong dude, and they're gonna be like, oh like, you know, let's show this guy what it's really about. And I have not had that experience. Like in the last six months, I've rode with two people who I was like, alright, dude, like clearly you're trying to like you're trying to get me not to even go to work tomorrow. Like you're doing crazy things. And in in in defense of the conversation in the school, both of those people were white belts, which which means they know nothing and they're just full of their ego and things like that. But the environment, you know, because imagine how I felt, bro. I just went from doing a bodybuilding show, right? So I was like peak, shape, you know, and I'm just like, man, strong, best I've ever felt. And then I go to a place where progress is just not being made. I'm the bottom of the totem pole, and I'm just have these older dudes, younger dudes, skinnier dudes, no muscles, patting me in the back, like, just keep showing up, man. I'm just like what's clean. Uh you know, just anger. It's like, oh, I don't understand. And you know, if we ask Juliana, she'll tell you, I'll get here day after day after day. And she's like, How was it? And I'm just like quiet, pensive. I'm like, babe, I was the now again. I'm like, yeah, I was just getting my ass beat. And even now, that hasn't changed depending on who I roll with. But your attitude changed about it. Yes, and um, because of environment, I now have people who see that I'm not just showing up for the sake of showing up. I have people that have taken interest, like yourself, and you see like you're teaching me. Right. You're you're like, I have these black belts, blue belts, purple belts, who are like, dude, like do this like this and do this like this. And now I have a whole a whole brand new network of people who are seeking to make me better at jujitsu. And if you get better at jujitsu, chances are you're gonna get better at other things in your life because it's really hard. It's really, really hard, man. You know, to physically I can't imagine starting your weight loss journey at jujitsu, for example. You know what I mean? Like, I like that's hard. I'm so glad I was in the gym first building muscle.

SPEAKER_00:

That's that's insane. I mean, that's hard.

SPEAKER_01:

So, so to to emphasize on what Samura was saying, environment plays a big part, and at Manchester where we go, uh the community speaks for itself. Like, if there's anybody ever doing something that they don't agree with, they don't set they don't pull the person aside. They they tell the whole class, like, hey, you guys cannot do this and be mindful of this, and you know, if somebody's injured or away, like we come as a community, you know, to make sure that everybody's good, it's just different. And you guys have taken me in like a lost a lost son who is seeking guidance.

SPEAKER_00:

It's it's all about attitude, really. You know, there's been so many people that walk through the doors, and you could tell they're here to prove something, or they're just here to prove prove themselves themselves, yeah, but like in the wrong way, and they never last. So the school's always full of people who want to be there and people who care about others. Yeah. I don't know, it's a great place to be.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, it's so uh the the the so the value in today's message, right? Because I say we're about wrapping up, like it's not I knew this wasn't gonna be a long episode, but I wanted to to emphasize on this forget about the jujitsu, even though that's really what we spoke about dominantly. But the reason I spoke about that dominantly is because uh you you can't get so comfortable in life where you are the strongest person in the room, where you are the most advanced person in the room. You always want to put yourself in a position where, because of circumstances, you are now the bottom of the totem pole. And to go from uh the peak best shape of my life in a bodybuilding show to go to a mat that I've never stepped on before and realize like I know nothing, I am nothing, it's gonna take me a while to get better at this, is a lesson that I want to emphasize on to you, the listener, and really anybody, because you have to you have to push yourself, you have to put yourself in discomfort, you have to do things that you know at the moment are causing you pain and making you uncomfortable, but in the long run, you gain something out of it. Uh, I can't I while entertaining the conversations of giving up would think to myself, like, how does that look? And you know, and it's not to other people, but it's like, how does that look to to like me? I said I was gonna do something difficult. If listen, if I didn't like jujitsu, and after six months I still didn't like it, then I'd be like, I tried it, I did six months of it, man. You know what I mean? But to find out that I enjoy it, and then and then from the understanding like wow, I enjoy this, not prioritize the other things around my life that will get me better at that would be dumb. Because now again, like I'm just showing up for the sake of showing up, but not really getting anything out of it. But when when you when you wake up and you say, I don't know how I'm going to get better at this, but I'm going to show up for it. That's literally the definition of how you get better at things. You don't necessarily need to know the why. I knew I was going to jujitsu. You want to know why I signed up for jujitsu? Because I told Samur, because Samur told me, dude, let's do jujitsu, and I said, I can't. I'm doing a bodybuilding show. And he said, You're a pussy. And I said, You know what? I'll do it after I'm done with the bodybuilding show. And I gave him my word. And then I watched him in a competition, and I was like, This is boring. I don't want to do this. And I literally, literally was so close to not even ever trying it. And who would I be had I not even tried? Like, you know, I like a lot, dude. I got three geese hanging in my closet right now. Three already.

SPEAKER_00:

I was like, but people who stick with it for six months, you're you're you're likely to continue.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, you know it and and now it's translating into everything else, right? Because if you thought you got to be healthy for you know working out, imagine being unhealthy and then putting your your your limbs on the line, right? And not literally, because in school they're not breaking anything.

SPEAKER_00:

It is true though, like your resilience, yeah, you know, it's really important. So it jujitsu does destroy your body, yeah, but it also helps build it.

SPEAKER_01:

So just like anything that's it shows you, man. I I I I wanna we're we're gonna do something one day. I don't know how. It's just is it just an idea in my head. People gotta experience this, right? I always tell people like, listen, duh, don't don't aim for something because of what you'll get out of it. Aim for something because of who you become by going through it. And bodybuilding and jujitsu and literally anything that you know requires a lot of time and effort and can't be given to you, right? I can't tell Samura, Samur, go to go to school for me today, let me know what they teach, and just you know, write it down for me and then bring that back to me. I'm not gonna gain anything from that, even if he was to draw me a nicely detailed, you know, class.

SPEAKER_00:

Even if I was to make even if I was to record the video of the class and you watched it here, you still have to go through it, and that's again the same as anything else. You have to just do it. Like you can watch people, I don't know, do any any any skill that's worth having, yeah. You have to do it yourself. Yes. Right? So I I've said I think I've said this before, where it's like if you may as well just do something, because otherwise like you're just gonna go through your life not doing anything. Yeah. Like you're gonna be here anyways. Yeah. Aren't you bored? Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_01:

That's honestly like the simplest way to put it. Like, bro, aren't you bored? In today's world, it it's in today's world, it's hard to be bored. If you are bored, it tells me that you are lacking imagination and lacking initiative. And not only that in a disrespectful way, but how can you be listen? Back in the in you know, I'm not a history nerd here, but back in the day, I'm going way back in the day when you woke up and technology wasn't a thing, and you know, maybe your friends. Family had one horse and then you had to go hunt for your meals and things like that. Sure. Maybe bored was at home because you're surviving winter, and even then you probably were still, you know, I don't know. Yeah, you're probably just surviving, right? In in today's world where you have technology to a point where you can go and study anything, anything. How could you be bored? Like, I'm bored. What do you mean you're bored? This might pinch your nerve, right? Like you're not bored, you're boring. That's true. It's very different. You're not bored, you're boring. And the reason I say you're boring is because the reason you're bored is because you don't have anything that you are enthusiastic about, which which leaves you to be boring. I just met uh Juliana's cousin's boyfriend this weekend, and and uh the dude has a 3D printer, and he's big into horror films, so he's 3D printing the cage for the saw mask. And yeah, it's cool. Oh my god. And I wasn't there like, wow, this guy's boring. I was so interested because he's doing something that's unique. Clearly, he's passionate about it. The coasters that we were using on the table were 3D printed coasters that he did. You know, it's not that we're telling you to go to the gym and to do jujitsu, it's that we're trying to emphasize on do something that's not easy, right? Because even let's use him. I don't even know him, but he didn't just buy a 3D printer, connect it to a laptop, and hit print. No, you have to know what to download in the programs and how to use it. Correct. You know, and I'm sure he went through difficulties. Exactly. Exactly. So, you the listener, right? As as as we we wrap up this episode, I ask you to ask yourself, what is interesting to you? And most importantly, understand that whatever you are interested in doesn't matter the second your health deteriorates. So before you even begin to focus on everything you want, your foundation should be on health. Because you could say, Well, I want to, you know, write a book. And it's like, all right, well, what if writing a book for you looks like you in front of a desk, never leaving the house, ordering food, just dedicating hours and hours to writing the book. Now the book is written, and you're in the worst shape of your life, you don't feel good about yourself, but the book is written. You get what I mean? It's like, what did you gain out of that? Not much, but what if you wrote a book while at the same time being the best version of yourself? And that doesn't mean a bodybuilding show or a Brazilian jujitsu competition, but it means that your your vessel, right? Your body that you've been gifted with has to be in operational conditions, not peak, but at least operational, because if not, you're not gonna be able to show up to the things that you consider interesting as best as you possibly could because you're not challenging yourself, you're not pushing yourself, you're not growing, you're not becoming better. Period. Boom. Well said, but but but go do jujitsu. It's the best thing ever. It's very fun. Yeah, dude. Hey, listen, it's I'm doing another bodybuilding show in October. Uh, probably most likely October of this upcoming year, and in between then and now, I'm still doing jujitsu. And in between then and now, I'm still doing plumbing, and in between then and now, obviously, I'm doing the podcast and my morning messages and my speeches and everything that I consider fun, and everything that I know is making something out of me, you know. And Samur can say the same thing. Samur isn't just uh jujitsu guy, and if you talk to him, that's the only thing you can talk to him about. He's an engineer, uh, he has the car detailing business. You know, he he does things, uh house projects that I would pay other people to do. Samur does, right? Because he because he loves doing those sort of things. Exactly. I consider that boring. He considers that value and obviously saving money, which I respect.

SPEAKER_00:

That's the uh the main driver, to be honest. You know, still enjoyable though, because I I'm learning a lot of things, you know. Like again, a new skill. I'll never say no to that unless it's I don't know, like chess or something. I don't really care about chess.

SPEAKER_01:

Yes, something you really don't want to know, you know. So yeah, with that being said, challenge yourself, do something difficult. Don't tie this episode so much to oh Brazilian jujitsu. Tie it more to do something hard, knowing that it may take a year before you start gaining confidence in it. It may take a long time, but the point is that confidence will never come if you just don't show up. You want to be better at something, you have to put the reps in, and don't be disappointed when rep 500 still looks like shit, right? Just keep getting those reps in, and over time, even though minuscule, you will see a little bit of progress, right? Because, like, uh I'll I'll I'll end it with this. I told Sammer months ago, I'm gonna pass your guard, and I haven't done it yet, but it's never gonna happen. But I'm getting closer, it's never gonna happen. I'm getting closer. Uh if you don't know what that means, that's all right. But just know what I'm emphasizing on is that what seemed like an impossible task for five months, this last month, has looked like there's hope. There's hope. It's not happening. But there's a little bit of hope. And I share that hope with you. It sounded like a joke, but I share that hope with you and the understanding that uh you can show up and not gain something from the first few, but over time you will get better. And that's not some I rarely say this, I promise, but I do promise. And the reason I say so confidently, I promise, is simply because it's it's law, it's like mother nature's, it's like written written in the book of being a human being, right? Law number 49 clearly states I'm making that number up, right? But it it clearly states that any human that puts intentional effort towards something, anything, for a long enough period of time will become better at it. It doesn't matter what it is. That's just a fact. So don't be so hard on yourself and convince yourself that oh man, maybe this isn't for me. Maybe you haven't done enough reps. Just keep showing up. And with that being said, thank you for being here. Samur, as always, it's been a pleasure. Absolutely. Thank you for being here. And uh yeah, until next time, everybody.

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