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A Little Alignment
Beauty Series Pt.3 | The Science of Attraction and Beauty Perception
Ever stopped to wonder why you find certain people attractive or what truly defines beauty? In today's episode we discuss the science behind beauty and attraction, throwing light on the biological and evolutionary factors that shape our preferences.
As we conclude our beauty series, we encourage you to see beauty in a different light. It's about time we appreciated beauty in all its forms.
We're, in a very real way, biologically prone to be attracted to certain things. It's not as romantic, but the way that I see this conversation and how it can benefit us psychologically by educating us is the same way that I stopped. You know my relationship with food and sugar. Sweets are like my Achilles heel, right Like.
Speaker 1:I love me, chocolate chip cookie. I knew I was going to say cookie yeah. But the more I educated myself on nutrition and the human body, I started to see more clearly understand what was actually going on, and it took some of the like mysticism out of it.
Speaker 1:I guess you could say I was able to then move forward with a little more knowledge and understanding, so I didn't feel so controlled by it. Welcome to a little alignment. If you enjoy what you hear today, if you gain some value from our episode, please leave us a good rating and review at the end. Every single review counts. It really does make a difference. We would appreciate it with all our hearts. We're so glad y'all are here with us, helping us create a little more alignment in the world. Hi, friends, today we're digging into our third and final part of our beauty series. This has been so much fun to dive into and to talk about and even just to like contemplate. I mean, once you start diving into something, you're just, it's more at the forefront of your consciousness right.
Speaker 1:So you have more conversations about it, you have more observations about it and there's been some really interesting insights that have come through. But today we're going to talk about those insights that we've had, but first we're going to share with you guys some things that we've learned as we've dove into the science of beauty and specifically like what attracts us to other people. Yeah, it's, there's a lot of stuff there and what's kind of a bummer is. It's not as romantic as we think you know. It's. There's a lot of evolutionary factors.
Speaker 1:Right and it's just really fascinating. So we're going to dive into that and then we're going to wrap up this whole series by just kind of not as the overviewing, but both Lauren and I were talking about things that we've learned and things that have come up and even things that have shifted for us as we've been contemplating this topic of beauty, and so we're going to wrap it up with that at the end here. But let's dive right on into some of the things that we learned about beauty, because we talked already in the last episode about beauty being in the eye of the beholder and beauty having a lot to do with perception and what it is to perceive beauty, and that all absolutely still exists. But the things that attract us to other people and the things that have created these, whatever the things that create beauty to us, the things that we perceive as beautiful in other people, have, like I said, so much to do with our evolution and wanting to continue to evolve as a species.
Speaker 2:It's really interesting stuff and there's stuff that I'd like heard all along the way, like when I was younger a little tidbits here and there, but to like consciously dive in and learn more about it is really fascinating.
Speaker 2:And I think some of the, some of just like the highlights because obviously we're going to give you more of the highlight reel of it Some of the stuff that's like really cool, that kind of like rose to the top around all of this is the physical attributes and like why we perceive them as beautiful, but also like even getting into like sense, like why certain sense are attractive to us or why we think certain smells are beautiful versus not. We're even going to go into that the ick factor and why that exists and who has it more than others, and all that kind of stuff. But one of the first things that I thought was really interesting about the physical aspects of beauty that's kind of annoying simultaneously is like the age thing, because I feel like that's a really obvious thing is everybody's always like oh my gosh, you know it's all about youth and staying young and that's such a drive in the beauty industry is trying to stay young.
Speaker 2:And then it's like, okay, well then you have to ask the question like why? And this one is probably one of the more obvious things.
Speaker 1:But it's because, when we think about the evolutionary factors behind everything, it's the whole point of just being the age to bear children, right Long devotee, being young, being youthful, having that as an option, specifically men looking at women, it's not so much the other way around. And this is all, by the way, we have we have really dug into like scholarly journals and articles and we don't have, we haven't. I mean, I guess we could put some of the stuff, cite it on our show notes, so I'll do that, but yeah, we're not just picking stuff out of the air Like this isn't necessarily our opinions, Right?
Speaker 2:No, because it's like I said, it's annoying. It is annoying, yeah, Because you're like okay, because it makes you feel like if you're not young, you're not beautiful. And that's not what we're trying to say. What we're saying is like this is the reason why there's been a perception built around age and beauty the way it has. And there's there's some legitimate reasons, because obviously, you know, in order to evolve this species, we have to make sure that we are mating such a weird way of putting it.
Speaker 2:That's what it is, but we're animals at the end of the day, yeah, mating with the people that are going to help our species progress.
Speaker 1:So right, annoying it as it is just the way it is too. And even the aesthetics, you know like the components of aesthetic beauty have a lot to do with symmetry and balance and contrast, and all of those things communicate to us when we see them. It communicates to the part of our brain, the survival, animalistic part of ourselves. It sees stability, it sees health, it sees longevity, like I was saying, and even as women, we tend to be attracted to men who have more masculine features, right, and women, men tend to be attracted to women who have more feminine features, and that's like I mean down to like the cheekbones and where they sit, where they sit on your face and how full they are and the shape of the jaw line, right. What was interesting that I told you earlier, before we started recording, is that when a man's face is extremely masculine, they've found that women are less likely to want to quote, quote mate with him, like want a relationship because it's threatening to some degree.
Speaker 1:They want some feminine in the male features because it communicates this space for like nurturing and being somebody who could be a bit of a nurturer with you and raise children and help you emotionally, can navigate the world, which I thought was fascinating that is, and I mean obviously this is all gonna be more like generalized based off of like different studies and stuff. Yeah, this is definitely generalized based on I mean generalized based on studies, and that's how all science, that's what science is right.
Speaker 2:So there's a force gonna be, the people who are like oh no, give me, like the Tarzan looking guy, like I want the most masculine, the biggest jaw ever, whatever.
Speaker 2:So it's not to say this is just everybody's cup of tea or not, but that was really interesting to me because I'd never really looked at, I'd never thought that hard about it, because I was just kind of felt like, oh well, we all have a type, sure, but what's interesting within having a type also and this is kind of one, even like the hormones, pheromones and scents come into play we have a type for a reason and typically, like one of the things we're reading is like if you find someone to smell good, that means that they're biologically different enough from you to where you would work well together as mates. Again, I feel so weird saying it like that, but that's what it is again. So, however, like if they didn't smell good to you, it might be because the two of you are too biologically similar for it to be a good match. So that's so fascinating too, and that's why I think that we all do have different types, because we need different things to evolve in a healthy way.
Speaker 1:Yeah, another thing too, that seems to be, I mean this seems to be pretty obvious to anybody who's contemplated this that we tend to be attracted to our same level of attractiveness, you know, like a eight likes an eight or something like that yeah like an eight likes an eight.
Speaker 1:I heard somebody say it this way, like if you wanna know how attractive you are, look who's beside you in bed and how attractive they are, or look down the line of your serious boyfriends, excluding if you were really good friends for a while before you started dating, because that takes the similar attractiveness factor out of it completely Interesting. Yeah, I thought that was kind of funny. I was like, okay, but there's also. There's so many psychological factors that play into this as well, right, Like our experiences shape also our perceptions, right, and this definitely plays into what we perceive as beautiful. So familiarity, like some people there's, you see, people that look like they get married and you're like they look like brother and sister.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, I think that's so odd, but it happens, it does happen. Which is interesting because it kind of contradicts what I just said but it's not.
Speaker 1:They're not. Aren't actually like the smell?
Speaker 2:that right? Right, they're not actually. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But yeah. So there's like a familiarity. You know, you like what you know. It's familiar and familiar, safe to the brain, right To the psyche. And then also there's something that I found that's called the they call it the mere exposure effect where, quite literally, the more you've been exposed to a person, the more attractive they become to you. So they did this with a study where they had like a group of women and they were assigned to go into, go to different classes at a university, and the women who were at more classes, more of the classes with these men they chose them as like more pretty, more beautiful. They were like Wow. But the ones who weren't in any of the classes, all of them got less ratings on the beauty scale because they just weren't unfamiliar to them. So maybe that's a cute little dating tip If you like someone, just go put your face in front of them, hang out with them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, here I am again.
Speaker 1:But it's true, huh, like we were talking too, about how, when you're dating somebody, or even just starting to hang out with someone, the more you hang out with them, the more attractive you find them, the more attractive you find them.
Speaker 2:That is. I find this to be so true for me, Any relationship that I've been in, even people that I've just been friends with, I feel like over time I've always found them to be more attractive than I might've initially found them to be.
Speaker 1:That's so cool. I also think there's, I fully believe that there's an energetic component to this. I don't even think it's a belief. I think that it could be something provable that I just didn't delve into in studying. But the way that somebody thinks and feels it influences the way that they look.
Speaker 3:Even just let's just talk about something like confidence.
Speaker 1:If you feel confident, you'll walk confidently, and the way you present yourself and the way you dress and the way you talk, that's all going to be something that is perceivable by other people and that can definitely influence and affect the way that you see someone. So there's an energetic component to this as well, like the way that you think and feel, which is kind of interesting. I think about that in. I've thought about this in a lot of different moments about myself, like could we, through meditation, shift the way that we because meditation can shift us like shift what's going on on a cellular level For us, right, and that's all the skin and color, it's all cell related right.
Speaker 2:The health of your cells is equal to the health of your mind. Yeah, so I'm like, could we so?
Speaker 1:that's very Dr Joe. Yes, like, could we shift the way that we look through meditation? I think so. I mean, according to the science of what meditation does? It checks out to some extent, right, yeah, I just don't know how far we take that Well, like okay.
Speaker 2:So part of also what we were looking into is that even you know we're all working to have this really beautiful, clear, soft skin and well, why, okay? So like we're going to go into the why behind it. Well, because it also is a sign of health, right, cause if you're hormones are out of whack or unbalanced or whatever, typically it's going to affect your skin. Therefore, again going back to the whole like evolutionary thing, we're looking for the healthiest mate. So the skin is another sort of like little clue, yeah, our indicator into the health of another person.
Speaker 1:So same could go for like the BMI right Body mass index. Like if somebody looks like they're in shape versus not in shape, that could affect our attractedness, like their attractiveness to us. Like how we perceive because of that, because of their health.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but it's so interesting because if your mind is in a state where you're constantly beating yourself up or you're feeling bad, it takes a toll on yourselves because your cells are following suit with all of the thoughts that you're holding. So it's a direct correlation right there, like you are totally in control because you know it's energy depleting for you to be in that state of you know. Oh my God, I hate this about myself, or I don't feel good about this, or how could I possibly write like the thoughts driving you to a place where you're feeling depleted, and it will be reflected in the way that your skin looks because your hormones are impacted like. It's therefore then now visible to others and it's gonna completely sway how they perceive you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so interesting, it is so interesting, it is so interesting we see that Stress ages us.
Speaker 2:The lack of sleep or taking care of yourself Again, like if you're too busy beating yourself up and you're kind of losing sleep, I mean obviously like kind of a component of stress, but same thing, you're gonna get the bags under your eyes, you're gonna look tired like you're. Yeah, it's just wild how that happens. And technically, I mean for me, I'll speak for myself. But I wanna be with somebody who loves themselves. I wanna be with somebody who has a good, strong mindset and can be kind to themselves, because I mean, at the end of the day, we all need to love ourselves first in order to love someone else. So I mean, I wouldn't doubt that's also a piece of what will make someone attractive or unattractive.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Kind of like subconsciously.
Speaker 1:Right Like, unconscious is like unconscious. It's like our literal animal. That's like driving, Like you said. I didn't even realize that this impacted, Like you just kind of look at somebody and think here they're attractive or they're not, but there's like so many calculations that you're inner animals it's like oh, they have clear skin, oh, their jawline is perfect Right on.
Speaker 2:It's so weird? Yeah, because of course, like with guys, like again, sorry guys, I have nothing against short guys, but it goes back to that other annoying thing where it's like people want to go for a partner that's going to be able to protect them and there's a perception that the height and all of that is going to be a factor that helps that. Or it's just as annoying as a whole, like hip to waist ratio for women too. But again it goes back to the evolutionary factor of like can she hold a baby?
Speaker 1:And you're right, right. So this is funny too, because I was back to the smells and the disgust trigger right. Because we do. Disgust is a very important experience that we have as humans. It keeps us from eating things or being exposed to things that could kill us or make us very very sick right.
Speaker 1:And like I'm disgusted by the thought of eating dog shit because I should be because it would literally be like bacteria, disgusting, would not be good for my body to partake, and so, anyway, with this in mind, there is actual science that backs up that women are more susceptible to the ick than men Because we're more mechanically vulnerable to the mating scenario, right Like to STDs, to obviously getting pregnant, and you know, the guy could essentially cut and run and be like there's way less risk. The same way he did before.
Speaker 1:Right, there's way less risk for the man, for the male, in hooking up with someone than the woman, and so there is a higher risk for the woman to hook up with somebody and because of that her senses, her perception, I guess, of like ick and disgust are heightened as a protective mechanism. That's so cool.
Speaker 2:And it's so true, though, because how many I mean? You can see it in even like little girls and little boys. Yeah, little girls will totally get grossed out so much quicker than a little boy will.
Speaker 1:That's so funny.
Speaker 2:So that isn't true. That doesn't show that it's just like in us. We're not even programmed that way. It's just kind of like it's part of what happens between men and women boys, girls.
Speaker 1:We're biologically, you know, in a very real way, biologically prone to be attracted to certain things and I mean it's interesting to talk about it. Like I said, it's not as romantic, but it also it's kind of like. The way that I see this conversation and how it can benefit us psychologically and by educating us is the same way that I stopped. You know my relationship with food and sugar. Sweets are like my Achilles heel, right.
Speaker 1:Like I have a lot of me chocolate chip cookie points I knew I was gonna say a cookie, yeah. And when it used to just be like oh, cookies are good, cookies are bad, cookies are bad for you, and this is good food and this is bad food, like that was not enough education for me to feel anything Like. I just really felt deprived, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like why does it have to be bad? But the more I educated myself on nutrition and the human body and what actually is happening to you when you consume sugar, and especially when you consume sugar and high carbs consistently, I started to see more clearly understand what was actually going on.
Speaker 2:And it took some of the like mysticism out of it.
Speaker 1:I guess you could say, yeah, I don't think that was the best word, we're going with it. It took some of it out of there where it's just like. I just was told that and believed it and I was able to then move forward with a little more knowledge and understanding so that it wasn't so I didn't feel so controlled by it, right. And so I think that, having this conversation around the science of beauty, it doesn't negate personal experience and personal perceptions and all of the different ways and varieties of people that may not necessarily align with the general public, right. But it does help us to understand what's going on and like why certain things are beautiful and why certain things maybe aren't. And it takes out like the personal factor Right Of like taking it personally or I'm not enough. It's not about being enough, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's more information around the perception of beauty because, again, it's a perception. It's not that like something is or is not Right, but we're perceiving things a certain way, based on science or you know our evolutionary needs or you know whatever it might be, but it's, yeah, it's the perception, cause, again, like you said, it's not that certain things are or are not beautiful or you know it's more so, just giving you the understanding behind why, so you don't feel controlled by it. I love that you threw that in there, cause that's so important.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, and it's interesting too, cause there's some of the things we've said today that are kind of across the board humankind but beauty standards. We already talked about how culturally we're influenced, and that does play a huge role in this. Like what we perceive as beautiful, we are very susceptible to the cultural standards. Yeah, cause it's different.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it is different Everywhere.
Speaker 1:And one of those differences is, like in China, for example, men tend to find more thin women more beautiful, with a lower body mass index, right With, like, less body fat, Whereas in like the Caribbean, men find women who have more body fat more beautiful. And that's because in the Caribbean they are less, you know, and economically they don't have as much of an advantage, right?
Speaker 1:So, if you have excess body fat, that means that you have a higher status right Like. You have access to getting your needs met and you're healthier and all that right, whereas in China there's it's. You know that you have access to everything you need and at that point the thin body becomes the status right, because you have access to the foods that you need, the time for exercise and really having to push yourself to be a certain level of thin that maybe doesn't come quite as naturally. So it's interesting, even just that right. It depends on where you are and skin color and people, what they're used to and liking what they're used to Even thinking about the skin tone part of it.
Speaker 2:It's wild because in our own lifetime you know, I've been here for 35 years now. Congratulations, Thank you, your biologically sound Very grateful for every one of them Evolutionary. The trend, like when I was in high school, was to be way tan, like very tan, oompa, oompa.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the orange tan.
Speaker 2:And it's changed. It was like no more natural, no more you know whatever, but that just shows you. It's like there isn't actually, like there is no one answer. Obviously, any skin tone is beautiful, but it's just whatever sort of influences are coming in at that time to make us perceive one or the other is more desirable, right, yeah?
Speaker 1:It's so also like, okay, let's take this back to the conversation from the first episode where we talked about the way that the Wayne Dyer quote the change. The way you look at things in, the way you think I'm, the things you look at change. I didn't get it right the first time I said that either, that's hilarious.
Speaker 1:The things you look at change and it's kind of difficult for me to think about looking at somebody with like white powder face makeup as like the ideal, like oh my gosh, so beautiful, right, because I'm really conditioned to see tan and a specific color tan. Think of that as health and beautiful.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, because that's where we were raised. That's our pooset Raised in yeah.
Speaker 1:Exactly, and so you look at yourself like all of this can come into play on an individual level. Right, this is part of that knowledge and that education and just knowing what's going on subconsciously and in the animal of the people, and just choosing, just like experimenting, almost by looking in the mirror and letting it all go and just looking at yourself in your natural state, you know, and not comparing it because I feel like that's where more we go wrong.
Speaker 1:Right. That's where we start to feel like we're not enough, to where we start to like lose sight of our own individual beauty because, there is a component to beauty, to something that is beautiful and element of it that is unique.
Speaker 1:Especially when you look at breakdown, like the elements of beauty and art right. Like I said already, it has to do with symmetry and balance and contrast, but also uniqueness is plays a role in that, and also what plays a role in that is what the art represents. You know what it represents and if it's something that brings out feelings that are rewarding to you right. That really triggers that dopamine release and lights up that part of your brain. And so we're all really walking pieces of art.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And so when you get to start becoming that work of art and seeing yourself as that art and the uniqueness like we talked about in that first episode and even in the second episode, about how that uniqueness is such a vital and important element of your uneness and of your own beauty and letting the standards kind of fall away a little bit, because it's so, I mean it's just shifted our perception, but it's not real and it doesn't actually decide who's beautiful and who's not.
Speaker 2:Like I said, I think, in the first episode, I had a lot of shame around putting so much of an emphasis on what I looked like and wanting to be beautiful, because there was so much of my identity tied to it. And it was hard for me too, because I was comparing myself Like this is what the beauty standard is, and if I don't look like that, then I'm not beautiful. So then that was the challenge, and so what I love about what I see happening more now, you know, are there people who were, you know, going and doing crazy, you know surgeries and procedures to make themselves look different? Yes, but there's also a huge movement to normalize real bodies and real faces, and way more than before, because it became such a norm to just have airbrushed everything. And so then when you're comparing yourself to an airbrushed person, then you feel like crap, and now it's like there's so many people who are more conscious of the fact that it's kind of like.
Speaker 2:I think it's a very natural thing to kind of compare yourself to other people, even though it's very damaging. We're just looking for the place that we fit into the world, and it's kind of a natural thing to look at yourself and then look at others and kind of see where do I fit in and what am I like or not like. And when you're surrounded by just a bunch of fakeness, it's really hard to love yourself because you are real, you're not fake. And so I think one of the best things about what's happening now is that there's such a push for like real images out there so that when people are naturally comparing themselves to others, they look more like it because it's actually real people and skin and bodies out there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and that's amazing, if it really is and you can appreciate your beauty and you can appreciate theirs and the uniqueness, like what you were saying, cause it's all like now when you can see another real body.
Speaker 1:Your perception of your own changes, yeah absolutely, and to take this a little bit away from the individual beauty as well, and just the beauty of life and the beauty that exists all around us, the landscape of the earth that is just overflowing with beauty to be experienced and to be enjoyed.
Speaker 1:We talked about this already too, but I just wanna bring it back to this intention. Like we can't be forced to experience beauty within, like our own beauty or the beauty of other people, or the beauty of the earth or the beauty of life and experience. There is a real decision that we have to make right. We have to choose into just seeing, and that's where beauty is. In the eye of the beholder, it takes on an even grander meaning, in my opinion, that beauty does not exist without a beholder.
Speaker 1:Really, to some, extent right, if something is beautiful, it's like if the tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it. Did it make a sound, you know? But it's true. If someone, you could have the most beautiful, stunning human being that literally checks all of the boxes. Like. Science has chosen a couple of super models Like I think our modern day version of this is Bella Hadid. Scientists have said like, based on her facial structure and the color of her skin and everything about her, biologically speaking, is scientifically the most beautiful face on the earth. Right? If Bella Hadid was on an island by herself, out in the middle of nowhere, would she?
Speaker 2:still be beautiful, right? Well, no one would get to experience it, and I think that that's the sad thing, is like, or not. That's a sad thing, but that's the beautiful thing about beauty is that it's meant to be something that we experienced, right?
Speaker 1:exactly.
Speaker 1:And anyway, and it's so much about perception, I wanna so I wanna read a quote, if you don't mind I doubt mind this is. I mean, if any of you follow me on Instagram, you've probably seen my little tagline on there is to be human is to seek beauty, and I really feel that in my bones and I got that from this story that I'm about to read you apart from, but I think that there is something intrinsically like sewn into our DNA of like wanting to experience beauty. I mean, obviously there's like we get this rush of, you know, happy hormones when we experience, beauty right.
Speaker 3:So there's their drive.
Speaker 1:That exists there, but I also think that it's. We can't escape it right? There's a part of us that wants to find the beauty, if you will, and that's what the story lends itself to. Is that idea? So it's in this book called. It's one of the books in the series. The first one's called the Way of Kings. I can't remember the whole series. Oh, the Stormlight Archives, which is like I'm so nerdy right now I'm thinking that.
Speaker 1:I've read these books but I loved them. Really beautiful writing. But there's two characters talking to each other. One of them's really discouraged and the other one's trying to say like don't give up, right. So he asks her and he really teaches in stories. It's really cool. He asks her can beauty be taken from someone If he could not touch, taste, smell, hear or see what, if all he knew was pain? Has that man had beauty taken from him? And she said does the pain change day by day? And he said let's say that it does. And she said then beauty to that person would be the times when the pain lessens. And he smiled and said to be human is to seek beauty. Do not despair, do not end the hunt, because thorns grow in your way. And I thought that was beautiful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, literally.
Speaker 1:Because I think that that's the pursuit that we're all in without acknowledging it, like we're seeking beauty within the world, within ourselves the experience of the feeling of it, the experience of it Right, and so it's a really I have a literal chills thinking about this, because we started this series even before we started recording. Like, when we first started talking about this series, it was there's a lot of, a lot of I'm gonna call it pain and even some like tension that we feel when it comes to beauty and beauty standards in our home. Yeah, Navigating beauty.
Speaker 2:It took us a while to record this, to be honest, yeah it did this, like even when we started the podcast. This was one of our very first ideas of what we wanted to dive into, because we knew it was important, because it's something that really affects so many people Beauty and beauty standards and their idea themselves, and all of that.
Speaker 1:So Right, and so there's some tension for us on the topic right, and we kind of came into it even in this, the series we've recorded and we're releasing, talking about how it's kind of affected us in a negative way or in a way that's hurt us, but we also embrace it.
Speaker 1:I think we both embrace it, just our experience and how it's been Right. But coming full circle there's, I think, that the way that we experience beauty in a very largely experienced beauty is the counterfeit of it, where then we start to demonize to some extent beauty and like hate ourselves if we're not beautiful enough, and then we start to hate beauty because it's like I'm so tired of beauty standards, I'm tired of having to look a certain way, tired of having life have to be a certain way or comparing it, whatever right. Yeah, and bringing it full circle here is just to say it is to be human, is to seek beauty. Yeah, and it's part of what makes life worth living. Is the beauty that we get to experience as human beings, the beauty we see aesthetically and physically, the beauty that we experience in relationship, generationship, yeah.
Speaker 1:The beauty that we witness in the earth all around us. I mean there's an endless list what? This is far from exhaustive as far as all of the beautiful things in the world, right, but I mean, even science is beautiful, bath is beautiful, these things that we don't necessarily talk about in that way. That's what we're all in constant pursuit of, and so to deny that we are, or to like, try to reject it to any degree, I think, just holds us back Right, totally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is so true. That's one of the most beautiful parts of creating this series is just being able to look at it more deeply and really see it for all of it, all of what it is Right, and appreciate beauty, because I think it's a gift for all of us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's never gonna feel like fully complete. No, definitely not.
Speaker 2:No definitely not. I mean, who knows, we could always add onto it later, because we can do whatever we want. This is our podcast, that's true.
Speaker 1:But at the end of the day, I do wanna say this has been like I said at the beginning of this episode this has been such a soul-filling topic to just delve into and I've had some really cool conversations with people about the topic, about just feeling beautiful and seeing people as beautiful, and even the experience of beauty, beauty and art, beauty and restaurants and food and the experience of going out or staying in or whatever. Right, yeah, it's been beautiful. Let's just say how it is.
Speaker 2:It's been beautiful, it's been very fun and it also, yeah, like completely shifts my feelings towards beauty, because there's so much more to it than just physical attributes and the beauty industry, because I think that's where a lot of attention goes but recognizing the beauty and so many other things, and especially just the beauty and how people treat each other, and the beauty and energy and all of it, like it's just such, again, a gift for us to be able to experience and to see in each other. I was laughing because you were like again.
Speaker 1:I went like into your head.
Speaker 2:I know because I feel like I'm repeating myself.
Speaker 1:That's okay. It's not bad to repeat yourself. Okay. Well, thank you for tuning in to our little beauty series.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and again, if you have any questions or things that you want to hear more about, I mean, we could always dive into. Who knows, there could be a part four.
Speaker 1:I don't know. I love the idea of leaving that as an option because I feel like there's so much more on the topic that we could dive into. But it's okay. This isn't meant to be exhaustive. It's more just to have a conscious conversation, like we always are trying to do. Exactly, yay, all right. Well, thanks for tuning in.
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