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A Little Alignment
How to Feel the World | Understanding and Regulating the Nervous System
Discover the hidden language of your body as we unravel the mysteries of the nervous system and its profound influence on your life's symphony. By gaining an understanding of your biological systems, you're taking the first step towards mastering control over your stress responses and unlocking the door to a more empowered and harmonious existence.
We all have trauma. I want to say that for the people in the back who don't think that they have trauma. Sometimes it's really dramatic trauma. Sometimes it's more small things, like we got left at school and our parents didn't pick us up. They forgot us and it caused a stress response in our body and some small T trauma, but it caused our nervous system to shift and to change. Our experiences are what teach our nervous systems how to be, and so if you have a small T trauma, you might not cognitively remember what happened, but your nervous system does. Welcome to a little alignment. If you enjoy what you hear today, if you gain some value from our episode, please leave us a good rating and review at the end. Every single review counts. It really does make a difference. We would appreciate it with all our hearts. We're so glad y'all are here with us helping us create a little more alignment in the world.
Speaker 2:Hello everybody. Hello, today's episode is a nice little partner to last week's episode, yes, so I think you can honestly get value out of listening to these in any order. So if you haven't listened to last week's episode, never fear.
Speaker 1:Just start here. Oh wow, I love the poetry we have. It didn't mean to be spitting lines, oh no, Dropping lines, that's what it is, okay.
Speaker 2:Anyway, this is why I don't talk like that. I don't talk like that. Yeah, that one just accidentally fell out the way it did.
Speaker 2:But what we're going to be talking about today is a nervous system, and we're going to do it from a place where we try to simplify it as much as possible, because Kendra and I will not be distributing a pop quiz at the end of this podcast. We shall not, but we. What we do want for you guys is to have a really just simple, easy understanding of how your body does impact your energy and how you navigate life and what you choose, and just allow your body to be this amazing tool that you work with. Because is that it is so amazing? There's so much complexity to it, but when you have even just a little bit of understanding of how it works and how you can work together more powerfully, whoo, life can change from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, knowledge is power.
Speaker 2:So that's what we're going to do. We're going to talk a little bit about the nervous system. So you have, like I said, a little baseline understanding of how you can step into the energy that you really want.
Speaker 1:Yes, so we're just going to dive into it and really explain it in simple terms, because there is a lot. I mean we're really coming to understand the importance of the nervous system in overall well-being.
Speaker 1:So, it's in a lot of conversations, especially if you are into the world of health and wellness, or even spirituality or consciousness. The nervous system is probably something you're hearing a lot about, for sure, and there's tons of info out there, and continues to learn, for sure. But the basics are right here. Basically, the nervous system, the role of it is is your body's messaging system. It's how your body communicates with the world around it and the world communicates with your body, right? Yep, so there's the central nervous system, which is your brain and your spinal cord, and then there's the peripheral nervous system, which is the part, the rest of your body, like all the nerves and stuff that branches out from that central nervous system, right? And then there's also well, I'm not even going to talk about the next one because that's exciting, we're going to get into that in a moment. So, basically, we're thinking about explaining to this to like on a fifth grade level because that is honestly a really great way to understand something about yourself is to understand it on a fifth grade level.
Speaker 1:It talked about your brain being the boss, right, like being like the headquarters, right, and the spinal cord is like the, the telephone that communicates to all the different highways and byways of your body, which is your city, right, and that's so the city and the highways and the byways, and the boss and the phone. All of that is what makes up your nervous system, right? So when your brain picks up information, it communicates with the rest of your body to behave a certain way, right, it communicates with your body to behave a certain way and so, for example, when you touch something hot right, it communicates like the feeling of those.
Speaker 1:Those highways and byways go back up to your brain and it tells what's going. Your brain says what's the we need to do? Stop fucking touching that thing. Alert alert.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And so there's all these signals right Now. There's an important thing here is that when it's working and running healthy, then all that stuff, all those messages, are really clear and it's just running naturally and easily and whatnot. But when your nervous system gets dysregulated which we'll talk about how that can happen then it can really seriously impact your mental health, your emotional health, your physical health but, most importantly, from where we're coming from, your ability to be creative, right To choose your life, to really be a powerful participant in your own life, right, cause then you're in survival mode. So when it's dysregulated, the signals are getting mixed up. Things aren't working the way that they're meant to. Probably you've heard fighter flight, right? Yeah, when you're in fighter flight constantly, then your body is getting more cortisol, and what did you say about cortisol?
Speaker 2:Cortisol, once it's released in your body, it doesn't fully leave for 12 hours 12 hours, which cortisol is also the anti-aging chemical. So you're really the aging chemical. Aging, yeah, but ages you. So it's, yeah, it's going to wear you. It's depleting.
Speaker 1:Right, and that's when we're stressed. When we're in that state of stress, then our nervous system goes into overdrive, releasing more of that cortisol. That's what the fighter flight is. It's like preparing your body to run away or to fight for your life, right? Yep? And the another way I've heard this talked about is that you're like everything goes into your extremities because you're literally preparing to like use them to protect yourself by either getting out of there or fighting, Right.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So it's going away from your brain, away from your gut, away from creating or hitting your in the body Right. The healing and preparing all that stuff and so just normal stress and there's nothing wrong. That's a good thing to be able to have that function for yourself, to be able to go into fighter flight. Right Cortisol is helpful, but when you get stuck there and it's dysregulated, that ain't helpful yeah.
Speaker 2:Exactly, it can be an unhealthy place to live Right Because of all the things, all the things we just mentioned.
Speaker 1:Right, and trauma is also something that can dysregulate the nervous system and it really cute analogy here. When you're thinking of your body, like the city, then trauma is like if a huge like tornado or storm comes in and really damages a lot of the city, like the traffic can't move, the same, the life can't really go on the same, the lights are all out, uh huh.
Speaker 2:You gotta rebuild Something's working correctly.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, and trauma, by the way, there's big T trauma and there's small T trauma, lowercase, uppercase. And the big T trauma are the things that we often can remember. There's some things where it's so big that we actually disassociate from and you can't remember which. This is important for later, right, but we all have trauma. I wanna say that for the people in the back who don't think that they have trauma we all experience trauma, it's okay. It's not because we're victims, it's because life is messy and it's here to teach us and we're here to be challenged and we all have trauma. Sometimes it's really dramatic trauma. Sometimes it's more small things, like we got left at school and our parents didn't pick us up, they forgot us and it caused a stress response in our body and some serious, you know small T trauma, but it caused our nervous system to shift and to change A little storm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's something important to note here is like I used to be somebody who didn't consider myself as someone who had experienced any trauma and I thought, therefore, I didn't have any healing to do.
Speaker 2:And that was because I had heard about so many other people's life's. You know situation and events that were very traumatic, very like. You know sad, huge, horrible things that had happened to them, and since, from my perspective, I hadn't experienced anything like that, I thought that I just didn't have any trauma. So the thing that's important to note here is that, regardless of how big or small you perceive the trauma to be, your body still receives that trauma the same way someone else's quote unquote bigger trauma did. So it's like you can't compare your trauma to someone else's. You can't belittle your own, because you know someone that's gone through something that you perceive as way bigger or worse or whatever. So there's a lot of stuck energy based on whatever situation, whether it was big or small in your perception that's still impacting your body in a way that you know impacts your yeah dysregulates your nervous system.
Speaker 1:Right, and you know, small T trauma can have a snowball effect and become big T trauma, right, like, if we don't attend to something small, it can. You know you can continue to have experiences that build to it, build it right and make it more impactful in a negative way. So trauma is something we all have and it's okay and it's important to like recognize that and to know that it doesn't mean that there's anything wrong with you, which means that you're alive. That's all Means that you've been living a life. And then also genetics play a role as well. We are quite literally physically made from our parents' bodies, so, depending on their own nervous systems and whatnot, that's going to affect how we develop, and even something really fascinating your nervous system starts to develop in the womb.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:So if your mother is stressed, if your mother is fearful, if your mother whoever carried you is experiencing high levels of stress or whatever that's going to affect how your nervous system develops from fetal, from a little fetus, from the moment you're starting to develop, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the other thing that's super wild is thinking about ancestral trauma, exactly. Well, that's yeah. So it's like, even if it's just a pattern of, let's say, you know, a lack of confidence, it will continue to pass down, not just because it's like in your genetics, but also just because it's in the patterns of your parents that they may or may not be conscious of, and so it's a whole lot easier.
Speaker 1:So their small tea trauma becomes your small tea trauma or big tea even.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, it can show up in different ways from generation to generation, but it's always going to be there unless it's faced and allowed to move through your body like that actual energy and processed. Yes, but you know, suppressing is so much easier, so much easier. And so much more often what is done, so that's why, I think also having a really good understanding of your nervous system and how to process things is so important so you can move that through and you don't have to pass that shit onto your kids.
Speaker 1:Exactly. And, like we mentioned before, when your nervous system is dysregulated, the city's not operating as it should. It can cause a lot of problems, right. Emotional problems, mental health and emotional health can really be affected here, right, and then physical things as well, like muscle tension and headaches and even diseases can come from a highly dysregulated nervous system.
Speaker 1:So there's a lot of reason I mean, we're giving you a lot of reasons to just to tap into your body in this way and, you know, nurture that relationship and say, how am I being right? How is my nervous system right now? And there's, there's a lot of telltales as far as the nervous system goes, like, if you can sit and be still and just be at peace and be calm, that's a good sign, right? A friend of ours says it beautifully that health is the ability to choose. So if you can choose to be calm when you wanna be calm, if you can fall asleep when you wanna fall asleep, if you can choose to wake up and exercise and move or take action when you want to, if you have that ability to choose for yourself, it's a gift. But it is a gift and it is a sign of a healthy and properly functioning nervous system as well.
Speaker 2:It's a gift you give yourself. It is Because the only person that can change this for you is you, is you, so this is truly a gift you give yourself, and that's why this is so exciting for us to talk about, because it's our intention is to empower you with the knowledge around how you can gift this to yourself.
Speaker 1:Yes, and just one more thing I'm gonna throw out there is that depression and anxiety are often linked to dysregulated nervous system, to dysregulation in the nervous system. So that's running rampant in our world today.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's built up of patterns, exactly you know, and your body establishes baselines and it's always just trying to be as energy efficient as possible. So if there's an unhealthy baseline that's been established and that's what's most energy efficient. That's where you'll stay.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Until you decide to break the chain and make the difference and be different, give that gift to yourself, right? Okay, now I'm gonna talk about the heart-brain connection, because this is another part of our nervous system, right? So we talked about the central nervous system and the peripheral nervous system. This one is called the autonomous nervous system Autonomic.
Speaker 2:Nervous system Autonomic this is my favorite. Yeah, this is.
Speaker 1:Lauren's jam, the autonomic nervous system. So tell us about. Tell us about this.
Speaker 2:This is the heart-brain connection, and this is, I mean, obviously like we have an entire episode about heart math. It's part of our wellness series, so if you wanted to dive deeper into that, it's a good one to check out. But for those who just wanna get this quick little snapshot of what's going on with your autonomic nervous system, it's the signals that are going between your heart and your brain and vice versa, and Right, which pause?
Speaker 1:That's actually something that's pretty cool, like your heart communicates with your brain and your brain communicates with your heart. It's like a back and forth. No one, neither, is in charge of the other, but they both affect each other.
Speaker 2:Right, right, right.
Speaker 2:And it's especially when we talk about anxiety or depression.
Speaker 2:This is where you can really tap into helping yourself to create a healthy baseline so that you can switch some of the patterns that will send you into an anxiety attack, Like for me, having the knowledge around oh, if I shift my thoughts or if I focus my attention on my heart space, pair that with breathing, which is Kendra's jam, then we can start to shift the signals between our heart and our brain into a place or a pattern that's coherent and that's where it's functioning most optimally.
Speaker 2:And so, like if you think about times that you're upset no-transcript the first thing that's going to go is your breathing. You're not gonna get as much oxygen to your brain and then your ability to make decisions from that place is like it's totally skewed and kind of shot, yeah, yeah, and your heart rates all over the place, and so it's just really hard to function. Like you can physically feel the dysfunction in your body when you're out of coherence and so many people because you know there's so much that we wanna do in so many places we need to be that stress is huge, and so you're not going to be functioning optimally when you're out of coherence.
Speaker 1:And it robs us of the ability to be creative and really actively choose how we want our lives to be Like. Just choose what we want to create, instead of being chosen for by our nervous system. We're just stuck in this. I just am surviving. Instead of being like this is what I want, and I'm gonna make it happen, Instead of thriving. Instead of, though, arriving exactly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's so cool too, because I feel like your intuition is really tied to your autonomic nervous system, because of the fact that you can tap into your heart when you are in, or you can tap into your intuition when you're in heart coherence, because you're really working at this rate where there's messages and signals flowing that allow you to get out of your own way. Like, what I mean by get out of your own way is you're not just trying to function anymore, you're not just like trying to regulate, you're not just trying to survive. Now you're creating the atmosphere or the environment, I should say, to actually tap into messages and intuition and guidance and desires like what you really want, not just what you're trying to avoid.
Speaker 2:Right and make good decisions, like really well informed decisions, because you have oxygen in your brain and your heart is able to pump blood to everywhere it needs to effectively.
Speaker 1:So yeah, quite literally, now you're able to thrive, exactly, yeah, so this is one way that you can really choose right and regulate a dysregulated nervous system is by tapping into that heart coherence, right, like you were saying. Like, because the heart affects the brain, it communicates to the brain as well. So you can take deep breaths, channel those emotional feelings that you want to embody, all of that to really affect the way that your brain is being, so that it can communicate to the rest of you oh, we are in love, we are in peace, we are in joy, we are in whatever.
Speaker 2:Those are all the regenerative emotions which create DHEA in your body, and DHEA is the opposite of cortisol. Dhea is the anti-aging chemical. So now you've got that chemical floating around your body.
Speaker 1:Creative chemical.
Speaker 2:It's like let's regenerate Literally creating healing for you, and so that is going to help supply you with energy and help you function optimally, whereas if you're just in the state of being stressed or you're still stuck in your 12 hour period of cortisol, your body's just working to help get that out.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about, let's share some things that can really help get you into a state of coherence, or to regulate your nervous system that's another way to put it or bring you back into resonance. Yeah, let's tell them. This is all the different language of talking about the same thing, by the way. So when you hear people talking about it in a way that resonates with them resonates and resonance is one that really resonates with me it's really just talking about coming back into regulating a regulated, healthy, functioning nervous system so that we can be creative. So, first of all, if you find yourself constantly stressed, have a difficult time slowing down, being still have a difficult time falling asleep, if your appetite's being affected, if you have constant headaches, all that stuff is signaling to you that there's an imbalance here, that there's a dysregulation. Who even another?
Speaker 2:thing. If you're one of those people who just cannot wait to be able to get off work or just have that first drink that's for smoking or whatever it might be Everybody's little vice of choice that is a go-to, because you aren't regulating within yourself. You're looking to something else to numb or help you feel regulated.
Speaker 1:It's like fake regulation to feel like the same feeling as if what it just naturally feels like to be regulated yeah, I love that Great. So Lorna talked about heart coherence and I would highly if that spoke to you. I would highly recommend going and listening to our episode on heart math, because it really is a beautiful practice that's so easy to access, like that heart coherence, I mean, it's effective, it's simple and it's really beautiful.
Speaker 2:It's as simple as like it's a practice that you could do for literally like a minute any time. I mean the more you can do it throughout the day, the better. It's literally just focusing your attention on your heart and breathing and again like I go way deeper into this in that episode, but it can also just be like a little mini meditation and you call in certain emotions or like memories from the past that will bring up like an energetic memory that helps your body shift into that state and you pair it with the breathing and your attention focused on your heart and again now you're syncing up your heart and your brain to get into coherence and then you can function optimally. But the thing that's exciting is that you can create a new baseline for yourself.
Speaker 2:You just have to practice it. So this is a great practice and it's fall free Anytime you want.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and another practice I mean breath work is something that you can incorporate very easily into your daily Life, that it really doesn't take a lot of thought, it just takes. It just takes some sacred structure, setting some parameters where I'm gonna Wake up and I'm gonna just take some deep and intentional breaths. Our breath really does affect our nervous system and I'm not gonna pretend to be an expert here on breath work. There there's a, there's so much information, is so much knowledge. It's a beautiful thing, like just how much our breath is a part of our life force. But I will tell you this like think about when you're running on a treadmill. What is your breath doing?
Speaker 1:Right, it's faster pace and your body is being communicated. Your breath is communicating To your body, your body's communicating to your brain that we need to be in a certain level of in our nervous system. We need to be running like a fight or flight, more so like that that part is activated. But when you're sleeping and you're at ease, your breath patterns are Right slow inhale and a slow exhale so you can actually trigger these different functions of you know the states of your nervous system by your breath. So if you're feeling low energy, one thing that I learned in yoga because in a different life I was a yoga instructor is the breath of fire, which is breathing in really fast and then pushing it out so Right.
Speaker 1:Doing that I feel like a rush of like energy right and, of course, if you're feeling stress or overwhelmed, you're having an anxiety attack even, or you know You're going into an important conversation and you can feel that you're out of your body or you're too much in your thoughts and you want to come into a state of Presence, take a deep breath in the square breath is a really effective one here. So breathe in for four seconds, hold at the top for four seconds, exhale for four seconds, hold empty for four seconds and just do a few rounds of that, and that can really help bring your heart Right down, which will again communicate to your brain that we're safe, we're good, and then your brain will communicate that to the rest of your body.
Speaker 1:This is the nervous system in action, right, we can utilize it to come home to ourselves and really create the environment that we want internally. Yeah, of course will then help us create the environment we want externally Beautiful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's so crazy like I'll even just have like, if I have a client that gets on a call with me and I can tell they're just like they're everywhere and they're anxious or they're upset, you know, you can tell their breathing patterns and their speech patterns I'll even just say, hey, let's take six deep breaths together. It doesn't need to be any fancy kind of breath, but just breathe in deep and like, have some really nice intentional breaths, just six of them. And the difference between the person before the breathing and after the breathing is like day and night. I mean, we're talking about just moments later. But you gave your body a chance, yeah, to just catch up. Yes, and that is so powerful in itself and I know that that's so simple that sometimes, like with things that are this simple, you can think out like whatever, like how impactful could that really be?
Speaker 1:But it is. Yeah, you know it is super impactful. Just think about it. Think about how different it is when you just take a breath. Suddenly you're like so much more clear and so Much more present right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know, I just, I just feels good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. So another thing that I Mean obviously I'm gonna have to give a little plug here to sound bowls and sound healing, because that's a really beautiful way to help regulate the nervous system and to help you come back into resonance energetically and emotionally, and Also being out in nature. There are certain things that our bodies respond to as far as sound goes out in nature that really communicate. Safety and also the human resonance or the earth's heartbeat will, will affect, you know, communicate with our energy as well, our nervous system as well. That, you know, help us Reach a new baseline of just groundedness and stability.
Speaker 1:Just go ground for a little while ground outside, touch, literally touch grass, yes, and and something else that is really important to this Regulating your nervous system. Let's circle back to you. Gross, I just said circle back, but that's okay. Let's go back the trauma conversation we were having earlier big T and little T. So our nervous systems get programmed, like we've been talking about, to behave a certain way and our Experiences are what teach a teacher nervous systems how to be. And so, even if you have a small T trauma, you might not cognitively remember what happened, but your nervous system does.
Speaker 1:So what happens when you have an experience is first it's generated in the body right, we feel it. And then it it generates emotion right, we name it by giving it the emotion. And once it's generated in the body, it's not going anywhere until you let it out, until you process, process it, express it right. Right, think about like a tea kettle, you know, expressing that pressure from Things. You know, I think all the molecules are moving really, really fast and it's getting hotter and hotter. And when it finally expresses, then it's Right. So it's, like you said, a lot easier to suppress than express, right, quote-unquote easier, yeah, it's a, it can. It sounds painful. The idea of expressing emotionally can sound painful and really difficult, but it actually when you cry. It releases serotonin, so it actually does feel good to let out these emotions and it doesn't only feel good.
Speaker 1:It is essential to your health to express these suppressed emotions right and they're gonna just stay bottled up.
Speaker 2:It nothing's going to happen with them. Like suppressing it doesn't actually get rid of anything. It's like we always say like the disease is creating disease in your body, right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and what you resist persists, yep, and so the thing that gets tricky here is, if you don't remember, like I don't know why I have so much anger in me, I don't know, there's no reason, logical reason why I should get so upset about this small thing that happened, or so sad, or feel Just like.
Speaker 2:a number of times I've said that Totally yeah and that's because I mean.
Speaker 1:Well, there's a lot of reasons, but Basically, all the only thing I want to communicate right now is it doesn't need to make sense logically, because it might not and it could be ancestral, like you said, it could be just old shit that your body remembers, right, and so just let yourself express, and, and having a safe place. I have found that having a witness, somebody there to hold you in, it makes it more real. Right, we have a whole on this too, the healing witness.
Speaker 1:Yeah so talking to somebody and getting it out first, just by saying it or journaling, if you don't want to talk about it yet, if you don't feel safe enough getting it out of you, you know, just writing what you're feeling or saying what you're feeling, and it doesn't even have to be like complete thoughts.
Speaker 2:It doesn't have to like, it really does not have to make sense because it like, we like yeah, I feel like we really need to highlight this because, like, even just speaking for myself, I know that, like, if there's a certain feeling coming up and I and it doesn't quote-unquote make sense, then I don't, it's almost like I don't feel like it's valid and I try to just like whatever. That's not it. But that's exactly suppression right there, because obviously I feel that way for a reason. I don't need to know what the reason is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it might not make sense, but it's coming up right. Exactly. It might not make sense to your mind, but it makes sense to your body, because that's all it is is sense, it's sensation that you're feeling.
Speaker 1:Right, exactly, and that's all you need to know and just letting it out. And sometimes I've had symptoms in meditation or whatever, or even just in a conversation. Sometimes I facilitate the release, sometimes it just comes up and I've learned how to trust these things, to let them out as they're coming up. But it can manifest in so many different ways. Sometimes I will just start laughing uncontrollably.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh my God, I love it. I like that kind of expression.
Speaker 1:I don't, it's honestly creepy to me, because usually what happens is I'll start laughing uncontrollably and then it'll be crying at the same time. See what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2:It's so funny though, because we have a name for that. We call that oh, you got the giggles and that's accepted. But if somebody was to just sit there and just break out crying, it makes people uncomfortable and they're like, oh weird, why are you doing that? And we also feel weird about getting emotional. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. That's the first thing that happens when somebody starts crying. But, it's cool to have the giggles, which is like, okay, come on, can we all take a step back and look at that.
Speaker 2:Why is one form of moving emotion okay and not another one? So it's like I think that the main thing here is take the judgment out. If you're feeling something you don't need to know why, you don't need to judge it. Just allow it, it doesn't matter why, and how it's being expressed too.
Speaker 2:You don't need to judge it, just allow it. Like I was just telling Kendra, an example of this for me just happened, literally. I think it was like the day before yesterday where I was working through something that I was upset with and as I was processing it, I was talking to my husband about it and as I was processing it, some things were coming up and I was like holy cow, there's so much more here than I thought. And the next thing, I know, my face turned so hot, like, so hot. I look and I'm like red and I'm just crying and I just start crying and I was like okay, but I know now I've had plenty of experience with this to know.
Speaker 2:Like, okay, I don't need to know why this is happening, but obviously this energy needs to go, because I just tapped into something that's been sitting stagnant for a while and I'm gonna let it go, because what is it like? You're talking about the kettle. Like that was energy that transferred through heat and it was like the steam release right. So, like for me, there was energy in my body that finally was like ooh, it got to a boiling point literally in my face and came out like. If there's any physical representation and example of this, it's when your body has this physical response. I didn't need to understand it, I didn't need to judge it, but it totally was energy moving through.
Speaker 2:And this happens for all of us and it's, I think, the key is allowing it to happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm really glad you brought this up because sometimes people, when they have this release, sometimes they'll break out, sometimes they'll get sick. It's a purge we call it the purge and it shows up differently, and sometimes it's sometimes you start shaking after you have a massage or after you.
Speaker 2:I had an anxiety attack in a massage one time. Yeah, that's a really and it was so weird and I was so happy.
Speaker 1:You until that point, well and you start having an anxiety attack in a massage and you're like wait, but I'm so relaxed. This doesn't make any sense. And also, anxiety is really bad and I judge anxiety and I can't feel this and you start to think instead of just being like I don't know what this is, but I need to let it move.
Speaker 1:It's energy in motion, that's what emotion is. It's energy in motion. Let it move. And if it comes through physically, like a physical symptom or manifestation, or sometimes people have even literally purge, throw it up or had diarrhea, it's a lot in plant medicine ceremonies.
Speaker 1:It's a purge just trust it and allow it and let it be what it is. This is part of regulating our nervous system, believe it or not? Let that shit out. I can't tell you how many times I've said that in my life and we'll continue. Just let like if people start crying, and like I'm so sorry. I don't even think I say that anymore because I have come home to my emotions right Felt at home with my emotions.
Speaker 1:So the more you feel safe feeling, the more of a safe space you will be for other people when they are feeling as well, because you won't judge the emotion at all, you'll be like why are you sorry for being a human? Why are you sorry for this release? This is amazing. This is beautiful.
Speaker 2:I've had to like it is such a natural thing, yeah.
Speaker 1:I've had to like hold myself back from I'm not even exaggerating. I've had to hold myself back sometimes from like cheering when my clients start sobbing Because I'm like this is so great, this is good, you know, but I'm like just be, it's okay. I don't wanna snap them out of this, you know, but I literally that's how I feel inside when people really have a release, as I'm like this is it Like this? Is you embracing what is really happening?
Speaker 2:right.
Speaker 1:In your body.
Speaker 2:And you're gonna feel better. It's like gonna be like the one time fix. No, maybe not. Oh, never not. But it's always so good to allow that emotion and energy to move through you.
Speaker 1:Yes. So final thing that can be really supportive here is playing more and just having more fun and creativity right Like painting, playing a musical instrument, going outside and kicking a ball around. Just sitting around and hanging out with your friends and talking and not having anywhere to be or having anything on the agenda. Having fun and playing that is really supportive to regulating your universe system and being create, like engaging in creative activities as well.
Speaker 1:And that's also a great way to express, by the way, If you're having a lot of deep emotions that you're trying to move through you. There's a quote in a song that I love, that I literally repeat to myself all the time, and it says knowing how to feel the world and turn it into art. And I love that and I think your own inner world, knowing how to feel what you're feeling and turn it into art, to expression.
Speaker 1:That can also be helpful for other people to feel not alone and to help them process and give them words or give them example for what it is that they're feeling, so that they can the people who still need to make sense of it before they'll allow themselves to feel it. Anyway, but go play and have fun. That also is very supportive to regulating your nervous system.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just be, even, you know, give yourself a chance to just be, to like bring it all down, cause I feel like that's the most common thing is that we're all so wound up. There's always so, like I said, so many places you have to be, so many things you have to do, but just be, and it's so crazy, like when you go somewhere without, like wifi and you realize how your body is so wound up to always being what's it called stimulated in some way.
Speaker 1:It does. It feels like an actual buzz quiet. When you go away from all that Right, there's like a little.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, there's so much you can do for yourself in that place and I feel people are really gonna feel resistance to that one, because if there's not like a wifi signal or there's not like an itinerary or an agenda for what we're gonna be doing, people start to get a little uncomfortable, because that means Well, let me tell you what, if you're uncomfortable with that.
Speaker 1:You got to dysregulate a nervous system, my girl.
Speaker 2:Exactly Because that really need to bring it down, but it is so threatening for people. I bet people are literally offended right now that I just said that.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Well, I'm maybe not offended, but just like, no, that's not for me. Yeah, well, that's how you know it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's fair. Oh, I love it, okay. Well, again, the whole point of the. Well, you know, obviously, like we said at the beginning of this, knowledge is power, it's empowering, and we started this, you know, we said a little prayer before we record it, and one of the things that we both just have clarity on is this is meant to empower you, not to make you feel overwhelmed, right, but when you know what's going on in you, you have the ability to do something or be something, do or be different right, yeah, choose differently.
Speaker 1:Right to choose. Thank you, that's a beautiful way to put it. You have the ability to choose differently when you know there's an option Right and you understand what's going on beneath the surface.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you don't have to get taken for a ride. You can be in the driver's seat, which is something we've talked about so many times. But, yeah, your body is here to work with you, not against you, as long as you know how to work with it.
Speaker 1:Love that. Choose your baseline. Yeah, love it. Okay. Well, thanks for listening. Love you guys.
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