Spicy Midlife Women: Real Talk, Raw Truth, and Bold Moves for Women Over 40
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Spicy Midlife Women: Real Talk, Raw Truth, and Bold Moves for Women Over 40
Episode 103 Grooming Secrets We Don't Share!
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Join us, Michele and Jules, as we hilariously unearth secret grooming habits people often keep under wraps, like the quick-and-dirty "marine" or "whore" shower. From the futile attempts to mask cigarette smoke with cologne to the amusing tales of skipped pre-gym showers, we explore the quirky lengths some folks go to keep certain rituals hidden—and why they rarely succeed.
Venturing into the sometimes comical, sometimes intimate world of personal grooming, we share stories about teaching kids the art of self-care and reflect on the cultural quirks of growing up in families where bath time was a once-a-week affair. Our chat touches on the diverse global attitudes towards grooming, especially women's leg hair removal, reminding us that what one culture deems necessary, another might see as optional.
We then explore the unspoken grooming rituals that are essential yet often unnoticed by partners. Whether it's maintaining nail hygiene or navigating the unique dynamics of public grooming spaces, we sprinkle humor into the discussion of intimacy and mystery in relationships. Through our laughter-filled anecdotes, we underscore the importance of personal choice in grooming and how it's all about comfort and style, despite the influence of social media. So settle in and enjoy a candid look at the rituals that keep us feeling our best, even when no one else is watching.
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Secret Grooming Habits
Speaker 1Hey everybody. This is Michelle and this is Julie. Welcome to a blonde, a brunette and a mic podcast. What is our podcast all about, you ask?
Speaker 2Well, we're 250 something.
Speaker 1Women with life experience and oh bloody to say which is exactly what we're gonna do right now.
Speaker 2Shelly Belly Hi, how's it going, girl? It's going good. Yeah, it is, yep, hey we're recording in a new space. Today we're like podcast nomads. Today we're downstairs in Michelle's house and on her comfy couches because we're reorganizing the podcast studio.
Speaker 1Yeah, and I'm super excited, though, for the outcome, as am I, because we're going to have some seriously comfy couches and everything in there.
Speaker 2So in the meantime, we're just going to sit on Michelle's comfy couch because we have some really juicy, fun things to talk about today Now don't we. Michelle. What Going with the flow? She's going with the flow. Hey, you've got your mic. Podcast nomads. No, you don't have your mic. You do have your mic. You have your. You have your coffee cup? Oh, yes, I have both. It has our names on the other side. Show it.
Speaker 1There it is anyway um yeah, coffee tastes way better in this cup.
Speaker 2I like that one a lot. It's just the perfect size and it's really something that we got for our podcast guests, which we have been a little delinquent on sending out. Okay, I'm taking that part out. Anyway, what are we talking about today? Michelle, I think this is a fun one.
Speaker 1Well. So this came up as a topic and I thought it would be good, as did Jules, and it has to do with grooming habits.
Speaker 2Secret grooming habits.
Speaker 1Secret grooming habits that our partners don't want us to know or we don't necessarily share either. Yeah, so either way.
Speaker 2So both sides of the coin, whichever partner, just secret grooming habits that we do not share. Well, we were talking about this a little bit before we got started and you had this funny story you were telling me.
Speaker 1Well, no, I was just because, as, yeah, as we were talking about it, it brought me back to somebody I know that shared this with me actually a long time ago. So when you brought this up, I totally knew what you were talking about, and she was telling me how she dated this guy that thought it was weird that she didn't shower every day. Right, and I mean, I don't shower every day, I don't shower every day but so she was telling me this. She was like so there were times when I would stay or he would stay, that I would just go in and pretend like I was taking a shower and I'm like how did that happen?
Speaker 2Just turn the water on, got my face wet, you know and it probably rolled right into what we call like a marine shower or a whore shower.
Speaker 1So what is that?
Speaker 2So well, I'd always heard it as a marine shower, and then our friend Carol told me it's called a whore shower. Basically, you just do your pits and privates. Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 1Pits and privates. Do your pits and privates. Yeah, peas, the peas.
Speaker 2Pits and privates, the pits and privates I mean. I always thought and then put on cologne.
Speaker 1I was going to say. That's what I always thought a horse shower was just that. Let's just like spray a bunch of cologne on us and here we go.
Speaker 2Kind of reminds me of all those guys that used to come into downtown Seattle Nordstrom and they would spray like 15 different colognes on themselves. Yes, yes, they would, I don't think it was really making that big of a difference. As a matter of fact, it probably was making it worse, but you know.
Speaker 1Honestly, can we talk about just that for a second?
Speaker 2Smokers do that.
Speaker 1Okay, smokers do that. Smokers this is off topic, but smokers do that. It makes me think of people that smoke. They go smoke and they come back in and they spray themselves with perfume, thinking that the smell is gone. And let me tell you, girls, guys, the smell is not gone.
Speaker 2It's not gone. It's not gone and, having been people that secretly smoked in the past, it's a secret. I was a closet person, just like I'm a podcast nomad. I was a closet smoker, okay, you all know. Now judge me, but not like a typical closet smoker oh no, pretty typical. Yeah, mary and I were. I mean, this is going back to when she came back from Germany, when she was 19. And all of a sudden, I mean, I'm so cigarettes.
Speaker 2Well, it's ends up on your fingers and I don't care what anybody says. It's in your hair, it gets in your clothes, it's like it just it doesn't go away. So people that think that cologne is going to solve the problem, or gum comes out your pores Just like anything when you.
Speaker 1It's just like that. We're a little off topic. But it reminds me too of the person that ate garlic the night before, or I think of that garlic or onions, and it's just seeping out the pores. You totally know they did it Same thing with cigarettes. People, you're not going to cover that shit up with perfume, but you really notice this at the gym.
Speaker 2You notice at the gym and I can remember like younger, when I was younger, just like having gone out or something, and I had a gym, like a meeting with a trainer in the morning, and I was definitely. You know, I didn't shower before I went to the gym. I think a lot of people do that. I don't really do that because I usually don't really get that dirty, but I don't. I just throw my hair in a ponytail or whatever. I don't go hit the shower before I go to the gym. But in this particular case I probably wouldn't have mattered because once you got sweaty it's like all that stuff's coming out of your pores, whether it's alcohol or, you know, smoke, because you've been smoking or in a smoky environment. Do you think if you smoke, weed that comes out of your pores?
Speaker 1Probably.
Speaker 2Do you think so? Yeah, why not? I don't know, I've never noticed that before. I mean why would you?
Speaker 1I mean I'm people that. I know that you know? Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, I know that's a good question, but wait, take me back to showering before the gym. Who showers before they go to the gym?
Speaker 2So I know two people that do that Really Guys, yeah, that do that. But they're also people that take three showers a day, which to me seems like excessive, unless you're in like a really like a really sweaty environment. You know, like, if you're in a really hot environment, like in the south, where it's look at I made that face in the south where it's um very humid, it's like you get out of the shower and you feel like you need to get back in the shower I hate that feeling yeah, the midwest is like that too.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, but I can see why you would take three showers a day.
Speaker 2But I mean so until I met you, until I started hanging out with you I should say years ago I was the girl that would wash my hair every single day. And if I went one day without, I just felt so gross if I didn't. Or I remember that one of the managers at Nordstrom saying yeah, you know he was explaining someone coming to work. She comes to work and you can tell that you know she's put together. And then the next day, I think she just rolled out of bed because her hair is one of those banana clip things, so she didn't wash her hair. And I remember him saying that kind of going well, that's kind of judgy, it's like she doesn't need to wash her hair every single day, but you can take a body shower without having to wash your hair.
Speaker 2You know, it just takes forever for it to dry and you've got all this product and blah blah blah process, and it doesn't even get dirty.
Speaker 1It's a process. And to wash your hair, yes, with the product and the blow drying it and straightening it, whatever it is you do with your hair either way, it's a process and it is not healthy for your scalp or your hair to wash it every day. It's not no Okay?
Speaker 2So I actually there's something that I ran across that I kind of already knew. But as far as your vajayjay, we're going to talk vajayjay for a second here You're really not supposed to use a lot of like soaps, no, and things there too, because it has this natural way of cleaning itself. But at the same time you got to feel fresh. So I mean, just wash it, just wash it yeah. But not using a bunch of soaps and stuff, cause you're going to get like I don't know irritated or something.
Speaker 1That takes me down a whole other rabbit hole, so don't get me started. So on shaving or something, no on on soaps and things. You know, body shampoos, all that stuff with all the things that they put in them.
Speaker 2now there's parabens, too many things that you should not be putting on your body, let alone in your hoo-ha, or on your hoo-ha or around your hoo-ha. Good point, but it's like you know kind of going back to the whole pineapple conversation you just definitely want to be mindful of you know your regions, you know, and make sure that they're all nice and fresh.
Speaker 2And when you're in an environment, like I said, where it's a really sweaty environment, it's like you definitely want to be mindful of that, you know. That's why they have those little wet wipes. And oh, there's one of our secrets the little wet wipes and things like that that you take with you. I totally will do that, absolutely yes, I do too To feel fresh, yes, fresh and so clean. Clean, like that song. Fresh and so clean clean yeah, so the shower thing Okay.
Speaker 1I just said I don't know. Showering before the gym seems counterintuitive to me.
Speaker 2It does to me too, but then these are like men that probably get sweaty-ish, you know, and so maybe they just feel more comfortable that way. I mean, I would prefer that they're showering than not showering, I suppose.
Speaker 1So, if it takes, three a day, knock yourself out. Yeah, go for it guys. Yeah, no judgment here.
Speaker 2Yeah, but there are definitely I mean, I know, women like that too Secrets and things that we have or men have. I mean, we've talked very openly about the whole shaving and the waxing, and I mean manscaping Womenscaping of course too, but manscaping. I see that I'm noticing more that men are more mindful of that, which, thank God, you know. Thank.
Speaker 1God Okay. So before we go much further into that, let's just explain what the manscaping is.
Grooming and Hygiene Discussions
Speaker 2Well, it's basically just taking care of yourself. It's the same thing that we do, but I mean, some guys take it to a little bit further degree. You know where they're. Maybe they bodybuild and they shave their chest or they shave their arms, but they get manicures, they get pedicures. You know? They're more like metro.
Speaker 1I guess. Think of, think of the word landscaping. We're manscaping, so we're. We're trimming and shaping and clearing off and blowing they're doing the same thing that most women do.
Speaker 2Well, I shouldn't say most women, because there's plenty of women, that don't.
Speaker 1I suppose as well, that don't yeah.
Speaker 2And on a lot of those things. It's like I didn't even really pay attention to a lot of that stuff until I was a little bit older, so I'm just going to pull a fast one on you.
Speaker 1I'm going to ring the bell right now.
Speaker 2So, in the middle of our segment, this is going to be good, Well, no, and it's really no big deal.
Speaker 1but trim that nose hair or don't trim the nose hair.
Speaker 2I've never had to do that, but I would say, absolutely do it. If you need to Use your own special scissors, put them away, because you know damn well you're using it for other stuff too. Don't let them sit around so someone else can use them. They're yours.
Speaker 1My name is Michelle and I trim my nose hair Hopefully she uses her own scissors. Yes, okay, moving on now one of my children asked me once mommy, why do you have spider webs in your nose? So ever since I was, I just I was a long ass time ago. Nobody calls you mommy anymore I know I clip so I can clip that shit.
Speaker 2Yeah, yep, no, anyway, but it's like even talking to your kids about this kind of stuff. I mean, it's like I guess you could do it when they're younger, but as they get older, it's like I just would like buy one of those grooming kits and it would be a gift. Not that I know whether I mean, I don't know whether they need it or not or know what to do with it or whatever but it's kind of like I'm just encouraging them to be good for whoever their future person is, and for themselves, yes, yeah.
Speaker 1And I think too, just like anything when it comes to trauma and childhood trauma and all the things there are, this is something else that could possibly a generational thing be broken. I was telling Julie as we were talking about this this earlier. I grew up in a family of eight and we took baths on Saturdays.
Speaker 2I mean talk about not all at the same time. I was actually not all at the same time.
Speaker 1yeah, not all at the same time, uh, but I was joking that term. You know, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. I was number eight. Eight, I'm the youngest, and we didn't all share the same bath water or anything like that, but a few of us would take a bath the last couple of weeks. Or even sometimes. Yeah, so you know. So I didn't grow up. I remember when my dad put a shower in downstairs.
Speaker 1That was really weird to me and you know, yeah, it was kind of a big deal and so, yeah, then there were more options. And you know, yeah, it was kind of a big deal and and so, yeah, then there were more options.
Speaker 2But you know, just back back in the day, okay way long before us, that was kind of especially when you had larger families. I imagine that was a process that people had to go through. But I was reading something somewhere, not not that long ago, but it was like a larger family, but the dad got the water when it was clean and then everybody else got what was kind of left over. And my question was when did the mom get her bath? Nobody talked about the mom.
Speaker 1Women and children. I think it was the dad and then the mom. I remember what you're talking about and then it was, because that's where the term don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Speaker 2I would be emptying that shit out, cleaning and then having my own, Just like okay, I bathed all of you. We're good, I'm going to have my quiet time. I'm locking the door now.
Speaker 2You know, yeah, anyway, just a thought, but hopefully we were able to get clean too. The women were able to get clean too. What about like hair removal in general, just like legs? Do you feel like that? It's a very American thing, because in Europe and a lot of places in Europe it's like hairy legs for women are kind of sexy, I guess, is it?
Grooming and Personal Hygiene Preferences
Speaker 1though I actually this brings me back I was, I forget what store I was at, but it was probably just a couple of weeks ago, and there was a girl who it's. It's almost like sometimes people, I feel like, go out of their way to prove points because it's cold outside, it's the middle of winter, but no, we're wearing shorts and short sleeves and short shorts and hairiest legs I've ever seen. How old was she? I just I couldn't figure it out Probably early 20s yeah, kind of that granola vibe, no it was I, I don't know what kind of vibe, but it just really caught me off guard.
Speaker 1But to your point, yeah, we, we tend to do that, america. I don't know if, um, hairy legs is sexy, could be to some people. Everybody has a fetish, I suppose. Yeah, like, maybe that could be, yeah fetish yeah I don't know.
Speaker 2I know in other countries it is different than it is here. We just want to be as hairless as possible, although I know people that have women that have hairy armpits and stuff and they're, you know, very feminine and they just have a different way of looking at things, you know. So it's different than what the quote norm is. It doesn't bother me, I don't care Men. The quote norm is it doesn't bother me, I don't care if men have hairy armpits. I personally wouldn't.
Speaker 1I don't like that Correct. Yeah, I don't think I'd like that I guess I was sounding a little judgy. What In regard to that person?
Speaker 2I saw no you weren't sounding judgy. It's just different.
Speaker 1It just really was just, yeah, very different.
Speaker 2If you were a judgy, you would have walked her over to Safeway and gotten some, you know, razors or something, I suppose. No, I said girl, can we have a talk? Hey, here's the barbershop. Let me take you in. Really, it's my turn.
Speaker 1To your point, though, like I didn't grow up getting a lot of grooming advice from my mom, I was very observant in watching my sisters, who probably didn't get a lot either, and everybody is just kind of learning as they go and figuring things out on their own.
Speaker 2What do you think they're figuring it out from?
Speaker 1That's what I'm saying. You figured it out from your sisters.
Speaker 2Do you think now they're figuring it out from like social media?
Speaker 1Well now, yeah, there's all of that on social media. You can't have anything stinking.
Speaker 2There's like too many options out there. They got stuff for everything, yeah. And now that? Tiktok's banned temporarily there will not be any how-to videos. People are going to be jumping over to YouTube for those how-to videos right. So we talked about horse showers, we talked about grooming essentials and stuff One thing that I feel like if I could share with men who have a beard, which I'm not a big beard person in the first place, it's got to be well coiffed, you know, really nicely put together.
Speaker 1And there's coiffed.
Speaker 2There goes Julie with her fancy words again, it's not a fancy word, it's just they've got to be, you know, like, they got to have their shit put together, that's all. But I love it when there's like a clean line, like a clean line.
Speaker 1And it's not like they just let it grow, like they're Grizzly Jackson or something.
Speaker 2Yeah, they got to line that shit up. Line that shit up just like they line up you know. Whatever else they're lining up, line it up, get it all going, make it look purposeful. Looks like you took some time and some energy.
Speaker 1It's kind of sexy, I think, just saying I take a picture with my four boys. There's like more hair in that, it's like holy smokes, but they're very well clothed.
Speaker 2I mean, I just saw Isaac leave and he's looking great and I'm here. I'm asking all these questions about his beard. So does that itch? No, did it itch when you started growing it? No, I was like it's really long. He looks at me like I am the strangest woman ever. Who is this woman? But he tolerates me, so that's all that matters. But that kind of goes back to that manscaping thing. So I kind of love it when men embrace a lot of that. I mean, they can be very clean people, but they just don't like have those impeccable grooming habits, like their nails aren't necessarily completely clean, maybe they work with their hands or they've got the beard thing going on, or, you know, their hair doesn't have like they need a haircut kind of a thing. Those are all very easy things to fix if people really know to fix them. But I think, or if they care, you know frankly, they may not care. Their their wife or the girlfriend or partner may not care either. So you know what you do, you, but yeah.
Speaker 1I was going to say it's not about easy things to fix, because we fix things that are wrong. So it's not that it's wrong, but they're easy things to do, right To suggest strongly yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you there.
Speaker 2I agree with you there, but if we run across something, you know where we've got a. Well, I don't know if this is grooming, but it's like I was at where was I? I was out showing, I was at an open house. I was at an open house, took some clients in last weekend and the listing agent there, she was darling and we're probably around the same age. She was very well put together. She and I could totally be friends. I could already figure that out. But anyway, when I walked in, we're chatting, she goes like this. She goes you have lipstick right here and I was like, oh my God, you are a girl's girl, I love you. Because I had a lipstick, a little bit of lipstick, on my tooth. How long was I going to walk around with that? Nobody telling me, and it's like I'm always. I'm a big fan of an advocate of watching after your girl.
Speaker 1You know if you see something that's kind of girl code yeah, bat in the cave Do you know what that is?
Speaker 2Bat in the cave? Yep, that was a Nordstrom thing, was it Cosmetics, nordstrom cosmetics?
Speaker 1I always thought they said bat in the cave, like if you've got a booger in your nose or something.
Speaker 2Yes, that's what it is Bat in the cave. Bat in the cave. If you run across, you know, like when I see things like guys taking it a little bit to the extreme, like spray tanning and their orange. I don't like that. I like them to be more naturally tan whereas we do it.
Speaker 1There's probably plenty of people that like that, though.
Speaker 2I know and I think about you know like we live in the Northwest, where we're basically blue gray, you know, half of the year, so having a little color on your skin is a delightful thing, but I'm not very good at putting on all of that tanning stuff right. We have a friend who does it like all year round and she's really really good at it and it looks really good. It's very natural looking, but I just don't see guys doing it as much. I feel like it's a little bit I don't know. That would be weird for me to see that.
Speaker 2Well, I mean the guys, that the guy who goes spray tanning? That's the question. No, because you like black guys, they wouldn't. Well, I'm an equal opportunity person, michelle.
Speaker 1Top of mind, I never really even thought about that. But yeah, that's why my man don't need any of that. Man don't need any.
Speaker 2We're going to speak for Michelle's man, because Julie is currently single, so we don't have anybody in mind that needs to have a straight tan, or that.
Speaker 1I can encourage not to at this point. I don't know that that would be a thing for me honestly.
Speaker 2No, that's not. I, I don't know what about. Um, okay, here's one that I was gonna I'll share with you. But I actually got it from my hair girl right, and she, she has beautiful skin, so let's just start with that. She's got every product you could possibly imagine I would send. Every time I get my hair done, I come home and she sends me a link and I buy something new and she's not even getting paid for it. You know, that's the funny part. But her new thing is skincare, you know, and we've got all our serums and all this stuff and she gets this. It's called butt paste actually, it's like all natural.
Speaker 1Why have I heard of this?
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know. I have it upstairs, I'll show it to you, but it's white and it just comes in this tub but it's like, uh, it's kind of like desitin, but it's natural, like um for healing and you know, like, if you think about putting it on a baby's butt, right, it's going to be if they have a rash or their bottoms hurt or whatever. So it's not for it's not intended for your face.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2Is it intended for your butt, oh?
Speaker 1okay. But, it's called butt paste. It's called butt paste.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you put it on your face. And you put it on your face. She told me to do it and I've done it a couple times. I've only done it a couple times so far. And one time Jared was staying in the cottage and back and he came in I was like warning, I've got this white shit on my face. And he had Delilah the little girl with her and I'm like okay, so I don't scare her. But yeah, you just put it on like a mask and then just leave it on for you know, I don't know, half hour or whatever, and then you just gently wipe it off and your skin, just hydration.
Speaker 1Yeah, just for yeah.
Speaker 2I don't know. It just works and I like it. Does it smell good? There's no smell to it, because Desitin doesn't smell good. It doesn't have a smell, it's all natural stuff, it doesn't have any chemicals or anything in it?
Speaker 1Yeah, it still could have a smell.
Speaker 2But I get into all this stuff. I've got Michelle and Eileen, who are both divas when it comes to all of the things to do with your face and your wrinkles, and, oh my gosh, eileen gave me what is that thing called? I don't know, but it's this little wand thingy where you go and it feels actually really good. It's called, it's a certain kind of metal. She kept saying, and I don't know what it was, but you go like this around your eyes. And because she was trying to tell me, julie, there's no way to get rid of the bags under your eyes except maybe do something like this. And I just still have a hard time with the fact that they won't go away.
Body Grooming and Vacation Preferences
Speaker 1Well, it's kind of like you know, also, if you think about the I don't know well, no, but the why can't I think of what it's called for drainage? Oh, lymphatic, lymphatic, yeah, totally escapes my brain.
Speaker 2I use castor oil with a lymphatic drainage tool. Yeah, I just don't have the patience for a lot of that stuff. But it's kind of like my fun Sunday routine, like Sunday night I get a lot of that stuff done and have my little you know whatever my little Korean face mask or whatever I'm doing.
Speaker 1If you think about it, those kind of are hidden grooming. Yeah Well, not hidden, but grooming secrets.
Speaker 2It's not like we hide them from our partner, but there's probably a lot more that we do that they don't realize. You know, as far as that stuff goes In a lot of ways do they even care. But then would they care if you didn't do it? They don't know any better. They'd probably notice. Yeah, they would probably notice Over time.
Speaker 1They would probably notice if, just like anything else, probably noticed if you know if you're not you know trimming the bush and they'd probably notice if you're not clipping your nails. They'd probably notice if you're not trimming that nose hair, for me, anyways. So there's things that would would be noticed, like if you stop doing them and I don't sit there and trim my nose hair in front of my guy obviously.
Speaker 1So in a way, I guess that is kind of one of the grooming things that I do, that I do Like it's not, like I hide it from him but it's not like.
Speaker 2Why does he need to be in the? Why does he need to be in the bathroom? When you're trimming your nose? Okay, so think about. Have you ever been to the gym? And people are very comfortable in the gym.
Speaker 1It's a little frightening. Are we going to talk about this now?
Speaker 2Yeah, but are they secret grooming habits when you've got you know? I mean, they're just taking care of their bodies, right? They're just doing it in front of everybody in such a manner that is a little concerning sometimes.
Speaker 1So they're not secret, not there at that time.
Speaker 2Well they're secret, because there are only women there.
Speaker 1I was at the gym the other day and of course you know I sauna quite a bit and the sauna can be a really interesting place at times. Right, people wear clothes in there, right? No, not always I do. I usually. Sometimes I'll wear a bathing suit, sometimes I just have shorts, with a bathing suit top.
Speaker 1Sometimes, I'm in my workout leggings with a workout top. It just depends, but yeah. So that's pretty much the general in there. But there are times and it's often where you get that one they just come in either with just nothing on top or nothing at all. They come in with nothing at all and they just do their thing.
Speaker 2Do they put a towel down before they sit?
Speaker 1down. Sometimes they'll get up, they'll put a towel down, but they'll scoot down and they got their legs up on the wall and all kinds of things. I just try to like not pay attention, but they make you know they're pushing every bit of air out of their body that they can, the other day, get back to the other day, because this hasn't happened often, but this, just this, did happen the other day and she was like, just like clearing her throat completely of any kind of blemish, of any kind that was within her. And you know, I could hear her out there in the hallway and then in the sauna passing gas, like I don't know. Just like I said, getting every bit of air out of her body or phlegm of any kind was happening and it was. So she chucked the loogie, or was she?
Speaker 1just like swallowing, she was back there in the shower, I don't know. Oh, I thought you meant she was like in the sauna itself Back there in the shower.
Speaker 2I don't know what she was doing. Okay, I thought you meant she was like in the sauna itself.
Speaker 1But I thought when she was done I'm like, okay, hopefully we're done with that, right, so I can try to meditate in the sauna here.
Speaker 2And nope, we were not done.
Speaker 1That's kind of excessive, I mean it's secret to everybody else, but it's like you don't need to be like it was a process, man. I heard it again and again and then I by the time I was leaving she was still at it back there. And I've never in my life so I know.
Speaker 2And so some of those things I'm like Okay, I'm glad you are so comfortable with your body that you feel compelled to pick your ass in front of everyone and their mother, to shave your lips, whatever it is you're going to do, seriously, in front of other people at the shop. Now, these are all things that everybody does, right, they're all getting themselves clean or whatever they've got, whatever they're doing, but I just don't really like to see that. I don't need to see that. Yeah, I don't. So when you do it, why would I see it when some perfect stranger?
Speaker 1does it, yeah, so I guess that's kind of my point, what I was talking about before. There's things we do that are not necessarily oh, I don't want them to know that I do this. I mean, there are things like that, everybody does. A lot of people do maybe not everybody, but things that everybody, almost everybody, does, but things that everybody, almost everybody does, and it's just not something that you're going to do out in the open, even with your partner there.
Speaker 1Eventually, maybe some I mean eventually we all poop in front of our partner, or maybe not in front of, but you know, if the sound comes out, it's not as devastating as it was when you were first dating I was talking.
Speaker 2I was talking to this couple is engaged and the guy is like he is letting him rip and you know, does the classic pull the covers over the head thing, probably the whole bit and the girl's like I would be mortified if I did that and I think he would be mortified too, and and I'm like what a double standard, first of all. Second of all, it's like I totally get it, because you get to a point, but there's got to be I don't know a point in time where you're like can you leave a little bit to the imagination?
Speaker 1I don't need to know all the details.
Speaker 1It's kind of like when you're giving birth and they see everything more than you see, you know, they have a completely different interpretation the next time they're looking at it, you know, and it's not pretty, usually A little pro tip If you are new in the relationship and you do need to poop, turn the bathtub water on and run it, or the sink water on or both, if you need a little background noise so you can try to, you know, let the things escape, that might be make a little noise or michelle goes.
Speaker 2They're at a hotel. She'll just go down to the lobby bathroom. Yeah, I have done that before.
Speaker 1Yeah, I think we all have all right, well, I forgot about that. Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 2So we've talked about some of these secret grooming habits. I think what it kind of boils down to is it's important to take care of yourself, right? Yes, it is detailed routines than others. Some people care about some things other people don't care about. And then when you're with your partner I think, especially as you're kind of like new even in a relationship and stuff, it's like you kind of want to present with your best foot forward, but there's going to be things that you're going to slip on down the road and when it comes, to the grooming.
Speaker 1We're all humans. We don't need to be embarrassed about things that our bodies do. I mean, really, it's you know, it is what it is. And there's a book for toddlers called Everybody Poops, so just remember that.
Speaker 2She reflects on that book quite often, apparently. Are you going to ring the bell again? Do you have a question for me? I do have a question, oh geez.
Speaker 1What is it? There's that ring again. So my question is in regard to vacationing is relaxing better or activities better when you go on vacation? So, like you know, you're going to go to Hawaii and we're just going to, you know, kind of chill by the beach side or by the pool and have a cocktail and chill, or we're going to, like go do the bungee cord thing or the what is that thing called that. You can, you know, like hold on to zip lining or the hike?
Speaker 1Are we going to go out on the catamaran and go see all the sites like activities? What do you think is better?
Speaker 2Ideally is when you can have a combination of two. So in my thought process, I'm all about the chill by the pool with the margarita and a book in my hand and put some oil on me and call it good. I'm good, I'm happy as a clam, I have my music, whatever. But there's destination vacations where that's not really how you're using your time. So let's say I was to go to Europe. Let's say I was going to go to Spain. I've been to Spain we talked about this the other day but I've never been to the beaches of Spain.
Speaker 2I've been to Spain we talked about this the other day, but I've never been to the beaches of Spain and I would love to be able to experience that. So I would try to mix in like destination type stuff where you're learning things about the area or the culture or whatever go to the museums, whatever you're doing, and then mix in the chill days with it. But other than that, if I had to choose, I would definitely choose Sandy Beach Margarita Music book.
Speaker 1Oh, we're the same on that then. I thought maybe we would differ a little bit.
Speaker 2It depends on what the vacation is.
Speaker 1I think you found that out about me when we went to New Orleans. I was so surprised Because she's like do you want to do the whatever there was this motorboat like alligator, I don't even know what things or go to her the cemeteries, or do. There were more than a few different excursions that she was like do you want to go? Do you want to go? Because we were there for my birthday and she was. She was just like you know she's like no, I want mimosas.
Speaker 1And I'm like we did that we just know. Can we just like upstairs and lay by the pool and just like hang out?
Speaker 2And I've never done that in New Orleans. I've never. This is the only time I've ever done that and it was so awesome. But usually you know, when we're doing those kind of long weekend things, it's you know we're, we go to Vegas, we're sitting, that's the idea right, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's just so much to see and do there. That's the idea, right?
Speaker 1Yeah, there's just so much to see and do there. That is more my vibe. But you're right, like Europe, I might be going there later this year. You are going, yeah, we're going, and so that is going to be a little bit different. Yeah, I won't say once in a lifetime. I'm not going to narrow it down to that, but neither one of us have been to these places, and so sure, yeah, it's going to be a lot more exploring than normal, and I think, as I'm saying, that out loud.
Speaker 1It's a different type of vacation to your point. So, mexico you know. Yeah, give me a. Let me belly up to the bar in the pool and that sounds amazing. I know it's amazing right now which is what we tried to do last year and it didn't happen. But yeah, I think it can be a good combination. But I'm with you If it's a sandy beach or a pool or whatever, I'm happy to do that. Nobody has to go out of their way to try to entertain me.
Speaker 2No, you are the easiest person to vacation with, honestly. So easy to vacation with super chill, totally go with the flow. It's. It's pretty nice. I, I love long you know I like to plan stuff.
Speaker 2So I have things to look forward to. But I love long weekends, you know, like long weekends where there's a purpose. So like, for example, the Hawks schedule is already. We already know who the Hawks are playing next season. We don't know when, we just know what the away games are and that sort of thing.
Speaker 2And Andrew, my son, was talking about how he's he's never been to Nashville and we're going to be playing in Nashville and I'm like what a perfect opportunity to go and check out, because he's only like what two hours or something away from there, so we can go to Nashville, I can show him where all the stuff is and go see the game. But it's fun because everybody's wearing their jerseys and it's like there's all this camaraderie because all these people are around. So New Orleans was one place. It was super fun. I met the nicest people there. We lost, but that's beside the point, but it was a good reason to go, I guess. So anyway, yeah, that was a really long way of saying can I just like permanently go on vacation? Not quite ready for that?
Speaker 1We're getting there, we're getting there.
Speaker 2So, anyway, tiktok's banned. I'm really sorry to hear that.
Speaker 1Yeah, we're sorry and I'm really sorry to hear that, yeah, we're sorry.
Speaker 2Tiktok is temporarily unavailable.
Speaker 1But Donald Trump is going to fix everything. I've got the big W going on that, whatever. Stay tuned, everybody, because we're going to have an episode coming up. We're going to talk about some of these things in regard to the TikTok ban. We're going to have a guest on who has a lot of interesting opinions and information with regard to it, and I think we'll like let some of the conspiracy theories out there you know swirl about as we talk about some of these things.
Speaker 2I think it's going to be a live episode. I think this would be a great one to do our live on with our next one, so let's give that a shot. We're kind of trying to figure out how that affects everybody and there's definitely so many different opinions out there. It's kind of an interesting time. Anyway, on that note, we are on the socials, right.
Speaker 1All of them except for TikTok. All of them except for TikTok. Actually, actually, we are there, but you can't see us there. So there is that.
Speaker 2And we would love to hear your thoughts on the secret grooming habits, and just maybe we missed something that you could share a little tidbit about.
Speaker 1Here you go, share them anonymously in our DMs. Hit us up in our DMs because if you put it in a comment. We see who you are, so I truly would like to be entertained and interested in any that you have to share that you think are kind of out there, so we can maybe talk about them at a future date, that'd be kind of fun, all right.
Speaker 2Well, with that in mind, we'll chat with you guys next week. Thanks for listening and for watching, and we'll talk to you later.
Speaker 1See you later Bye Out.