Spicy Midlife Women: Real Talk, Raw Truth, and Bold Moves for Women Over 40

20. After 40, We Don’t Fake It: Real Talk on Sex & Satisfaction

• Jules and Michele: Midlife Mentors • Episode 21

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Get ready, ladies—this is the one you’ll want to listen to after school drop-off. Jules and Michele are diving headfirst into a no-BS conversation about sex, satisfaction, and why faking it after 40 is officially off the table.

From awkward first experiences in their teens and twenties to finally figuring it all out in midlife, the Spicy Midlife Women are pulling back the curtain on the myths, taboos, and truths about female pleasure. They’re tackling everything from body confidence and intimacy to casual sex, long-term relationships, menopause shifts, and why communication (and sometimes lube!) are absolute game-changers.

Tune in for laughter, honesty, and a reminder that you deserve to feel confident, connected, and fully satisfied without apologies.

Topics we cover in this episode:

  • Why faking orgasms is so common and why we’re done doing it
  • How intimacy and satisfaction evolve in midlife
  • Casual sex vs. long-term connection (and why both are valid)
  • Body confidence, fantasy, and embracing solo pleasure
  • Tools, tips, and truths for better sex after 40

Stay spicy, stay unapologetic, and remember—you don’t need a permission slip to own your pleasure.

Are you ready to take your "spiciness" to the next level?!

Connect with Julee & Michele on Instagram @spicy_midlife_women and send a DM about what resonated most during this episode so they can encourage you with steps forward in your own life.

SPEAKER_01:

Hey, hey, everybody, Jules and Michelle here, two spicy midlife women sharing our real life stories and having no BS conversation. Isn't that right, Jules? You know, that's what we're good at.

SPEAKER_00:

No BS conversations. That's right, ladies. Here to help all of you midlife women redefine your relationships, ditch the toxic cycles, and reclaim your power one episode at a time. So let's get into it, Miss Shelley Billy. Oh, we're getting into it. That's sure.

SPEAKER_01:

Girl, this is a good one. Let me just like I'm gonna lay out the title for you here for this episode, which is After 40, we don't fake it. And we're gonna be doing some real talk on sex and satisfaction. So, disclaimer here, if you're listening to this in your car, taking your kids to school, maybe want to pause until you drop them off so that you don't have to like miss anything.

SPEAKER_00:

If all of you haven't figured it out by now, Michelle is our disclaimer queen. She likes to disclaimer everything. And but I would say this is a good one to disclaim her, right? Because, you know, we don't want our children really to know all about our deviant sexual practices at the age of eight or nine.

SPEAKER_01:

It's just gonna be a fun, really raw, honest episode. That that's all. So just use your best judgment there.

SPEAKER_00:

This topic super matters, right? It really matters. It matters because I think this is one area that we both in conversation prior to even recording have discussed that we really didn't have a fucking clue what was going on when we were younger. It's true. It is true. We know now, yeah. And we've learned all of the things we need to learn. But what we did find out when we were doing our research is that through psychology today in 2025, we learned that 58% of women have faked an orgasm at least once in their lives. I mean, once? Give me a break. It's definitely more than once. It's definitely more than once. Yeah. Yeah. Why are we talking about this now though? Because it kind of changes when we get on in years, right? When you say get on in years, it makes me think like you're saying Davenport and front room, like all these old-I mean get on in your like as we move through life, we're walking the journey, we're, you know, pressing forward and getting through as we learn all the things and get better at everything. Okay, but let's just say that sex as a general topic is kind of a cultural taboo. It's I mean, we see so much out there involving sex and, you know, the personas of people and the sexuality of people and all this kind of stuff, but we really don't talk about the taboos about women aging and sexuality. People just think, dude, she's like 50, so she doesn't have sex anymore. That is so wrong. Oh my god. That's when honestly, a lot of us have kind of figured shit out when we got older. That is true. Yeah. That is true. Okay, so tell me, Michelle. Yeah. What did you think about sex in your 20s? And what is that in comparison to how you feel about it now? Like you're thinking. I mean okay, make sure the kids are out of the car.

SPEAKER_01:

Like when I was in my 20s, though I was married by the time I was 22, yep, having sex from like actually later in life than most, didn't really 18, 19 years. I was 18 too. Yeah. So but I didn't even know what an orgasm was. Okay. And then you know, you start kind of getting an idea as you are, you know, having sexual partners and doing some of the things. And then it was like, okay, did okay, let me just say I I remember she's really gonna tell you guys now. So I remember like having sex with this guy this one time, one of my like how old were you? Like I was probably 19, 18, 19. Okay. And he asked me, Did you come? You're like, what's that? I did. I seriously I was like, oh my god, I don't even know what he's talking about right now. What is your name?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay, that's what happens when you're raised in a Mormon household. Pretty much. Or a Catholic household is kind of the same thing. We didn't talk about any of that either.

SPEAKER_01:

So, I mean, and then you know, you're moving on, and yep, I got married in my early 20s. I really didn't know a lot about things, really, even then, you know, and so when you compare that to what you know then to what you know now, it is completely night and day. It was kind of this interesting, kind of scary, intimidating world uh as far as sex goes. And now it's this really exciting thing that you enjoy. And there's so many different facets to it, not just the sex part. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. Completely agree.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. So okay.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I would say if I was asking myself that same question, no clue. Absolutely no clue. Yeah. Like I really knew that it existed. Yeah. Okay, all you ladies out there who are around our age, you'll get this. The ones that are younger, not gonna get this. But we were really coming of age when the whole AIDS epidemic was coming about.

SPEAKER_01:

That is true.

SPEAKER_00:

And I remember that I mean, I had never even seen a condom before when I was 21 years old, 20 years old. The guy that I lost my virginity to at the age of what, 18 and a half. I didn't use a condom or anything like that because I think we were both virgins at that time, right? But when you got into all of this other stuff, you realized that you had no freaking clue what you were doing. I mean, it's just like what you saw maybe on TV. I'm not kidding you. I really had no clue.

SPEAKER_01:

And pornography, right? And the pressure to perform, right? Yeah. When you think of pornography and where women are immediately turned on and having multiple, right? I know multiple orgasms and all of that stuff, it is just not real. No, this is fake. But when you're younger, you you see that and it's you feel like that is reality and this is what you need to do.

SPEAKER_00:

And but there weren't any resources when we were kids to even look at this stuff, right? No, or when we were young adults, I would say. I remember going to okay, there's a friend of mine that before I was engaged or married or whatever, that I had gone. He he was kind of hilarious. I worked with him. He took me to my first porno movie, and it was up on Capitol Hill, that area in Seattle, right? And I had never ever been to one before, and I went into this porno movie and I'm like, oh my god, this is such a horrible plot. Isn't it crazy? That's not what was really supposed to be happening. The plot, who cares, right? You went with a guy, yeah. He was just a friend. We went with a guy, and I had said I'd never been to one before, and he was like, I'm taking you. And we went, I think I lasted maybe 15, 20 minutes there. I'm like, okay, it was really, really bad acting.

SPEAKER_01:

I just remember me and my girlfriends watching Debbie does Dallas. Who Debbie Debbie, Debbie does Dallas. Oh, Debbie does Dallas. Yeah, we were watching that over. It was just me and my girlfriends. We were watching it, and I was just like, Where were you watching? Holy smokes. It was actually at her boyfriend's house. So it was like on a VHS. Yeah, we're just watching, yep, on yep.

SPEAKER_00:

For all of you, VHS is like a big freaking tape that goes into a machine. It's like a giant cassette tape. Yeah, yeah. Not an eight-track, but it's close, right? So that is the first time that you saw that.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I yep. And I was like 18, 19 years old. I was 21. Yeah. When I saw that. So I that was very eye-opening for me.

SPEAKER_00:

All these women that are out there right now, I'm kind of cracking up, going, okay, if you're 40 or older, like even like in your 50s, you're going, these women were so repressed. We so made up for it after we got divorced, right? This is why you don't get married early. So you can figure all these things out before you get married, right? But anyway, it doesn't matter.

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, back to what you see in pornographic stuff in the multiple orgasms that we know is fake. So have you ever faked an orgasm? Hell yeah. Yeah?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Yeah, me too. 100%. Yeah. 100%.

SPEAKER_01:

What are some of the reasons you think?

SPEAKER_00:

I just wanted it to be done. To finish bad, yeah. I mean, yeah, to finish bad sex.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, kind of.

SPEAKER_00:

I just wanted it to be done. And what do I know? I mean, do I know it's bad sex? I can kind of tell it's bad sex at the time, but I'm just like, no, I just want to be done with this. I'm ready, I'm done. And so, yeah. Put a fork in me. Put a fork in me. I'm done. I am fucking done. And that is really what I had noticed, but it's not something that I have done on a regular basis because when I realized earlier on, meaning like, I don't know, 15 years ago or something, it wasn't that earlier on that I was like, no, this is definitely something that needs to happen. This is definitely something that they need to figure out. And I need, but at that time, I would be like telling them, this is what I like, this is what I want, this is, you know, whatever, move to the left, whatever it needs to be. And, you know, I was really in a place where I was like, no, this is I I'm gonna take control of my own sexuality and and try to let them know what my needs are. Well, that is a very fundamental way of really thinking about it when you kind of are starting to mature. Right. Because you would in advance of that really just kind of like do whatever you needed to do. You're kind of trying to figure it out, bloody blah de blah. But then you get older and you're like, oh no, hell no. I really want to have meaningful sex where it is emotional and it is, you know, kind of something intimate.

SPEAKER_01:

Intimate. You don't have to fake it. There's it's like this team effort. Right. You're both doing things. It doesn't have to be like, oh, you gotta make this happen, buddy, or you're no good.

SPEAKER_00:

That's not how it's not happening every single time either. I mean, we all know we as women need time to get kind of warmed up, if you will. And guys don't. They don't need the same amount of time that we do. But if you have a man in your life that understands that, he will take the time to get you where you need to be before you know they finish.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, so it's like I get mine before you get yours. And if you can do that, I'm a happy camper.

SPEAKER_01:

But sometimes, you know, it can be vice versa. Well, yes. It can be vice versa. I kind of sometimes, you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Depends on what we're doing, I suppose.

SPEAKER_01:

But you know what though? So there were these quotes from women from you know, real life women that said this sometimes I just can't finish, and it has nothing to do with him, but I still want him to feel accomplished. Yep. I think that's a valid statement. Yeah. And I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I don't either.

SPEAKER_00:

And I think you're all in different places. It's like, I mean, you're in a relationship and you're having sex five, six times a week or multiple times in a day or whatever, not every single time is gonna have that same level of intimacy, that same level of like, holy shit, that was amazing. I don't know, maybe it would, but I'm thinking it just like anything else, in order to get an A, you gotta get you gotta get a C in order to strive for the A, right?

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and then on the other end of the spectrum, like we were talking about faking it. Um, the reason behind that is said to be to make him feel good about himself or to make it stop if it's really bad. Right. To your point, like we were talking about.

SPEAKER_00:

Or you're just done. If it's not good, yeah, put a fork in me, I'm done. Yeah. I mean, it might not be horrible, but it just might be like, okay, I'm finished. Like, I'm finished, I'm ready to move on. And that's okay too. You know, that's definitely something that has happened to me.

SPEAKER_01:

So, what about really the truth behind desire after 40? Some of the myths that might be out there that we can, you know, kind of bust, if you will. So libido, let's talk about libido. And does it disappear for people? I don't think it disappears. I think it ever changes and is evolving, just like we were talking about. Like what things were in our 20s are nothing like they are now. Okay. So it's an evolution.

SPEAKER_00:

Michelle has not had the pleasure of going through like the horrible menopause shit that I've gone through. Bitch. She's such a pitch. Oh my god, I love her to death, but seriously, never had a fucking hot flash. I hate her. So there's a lot of other things that correspond with this besides hot flashes, you guys. It's like you the whole idea of sex during that period of time, just like I was like, I had no interest in it at all. And it really had a lot to do with the fact that I just I didn't feel like I was myself in my own body. And I think when you're going through menopause, you're trying to figure a lot of that stuff out. And everybody has there's different variations of menopause and the severity of it. And, you know, some people don't have those symptoms. But for me, I did. And I have a couple of dear friends I can think of. Same thing. You know, you've got the dryness thing, and you've got the like, I just really am not into it. I'm just not into it. And you feel bad kind of for your partner because you know, they're going, what the hell is going on with you?

SPEAKER_01:

With your changing body, your weight is shifting, things can be a little different, they're just not like they used to be. And so that is an impact as well.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it can definitely be an impact. So that's just something to think about when you're in your hormonal shifts, if you will. And a lot of you, if you're over 40, you're gonna start experiencing it. I gotta tell you, you're in the back of your mind, some of you going, Oh, that's not gonna happen to me. Bullshit. It's gonna totally happen to you. You know? So the mental game of it, okay. If you're in your day-to-day and you are getting up at 5:30 in the morning, going to the gym, heading to work, taking the kids, getting them to school, doing all of your hardcore, like worky stuff that you gotta do. Come home, make dinner. I'm exhausted even just saying all this, and I haven't even gotten to the point where you might be with your partner and have sex. You know? Yeah. I mean, so there is a long distance relationship. I know because every time they're together, it's like a big freaking party. It's like a big event, you know. It's like I would be having sex all the time if I were her because every time she sees her guy, that's all they do, right? I mean like freaking rabbits, 60-year-old rabbits.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, but yeah, stress, the confidence is a little bit different because of all those things, the emotional connections can be different because of all those things. And, you know, I think that until you again, I'm gonna say getting on in years, until we move through some of this, um it brings us to a different stage, which is where we're at now in midlife. So in those long-term relationships, what are some of the things that turn you on now that didn't before or that were difficult to even, you know, acknowledge, maybe or even talk about. Or even talk about. Okay, so you're in a long-term relationship, so you tell me some of the things that turn me on now? Yeah. I mean, the difference between like in my 20s, like we were talking about before, where I didn't even know what it meant to did you come, like to where I'm at now, intimacy for me is the biggest turn on. And you know, some of our the late night conversations in bed, those are some of the sexiest, most turn-me-on times that we have, and we're not even having sex. Yeah. And you just feel close because it's the closeness, it's the intimacy, like I said, not to overuse that word, but it's very true. Those are the things that bring closeness and, you know, just a real feeling of connection with your partner. And it doesn't have to be like, yeah, we're long distance and it happens when we're together, but that could be for anybody. Right.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, that's interesting that you say that because I do believe when it doesn't matter how far apart you guys are. It's like a lot of the pillow talk and the things that are your thoughts and your intimate feelings you might not share with anyone else, yeah, are gonna happen a lot of the time when that's taking place. Yeah. You know, but it doesn't have to necessarily be the physical act of sex, but it's all the shit leading up to it that gets you to that point.

SPEAKER_01:

Intimacy can be, you know, like if you're cooking in the kitchen and you walk past your partner and you know, give them a soft pat on the behind, you know, or you can say ass. Little pat on the ass, whatever it might be. Just things like that connecting with, you know, visually with your eyes and making those types of connections and just really being present in those moments can really just be super sexy and bring a lot into a relationship, which then just adds to the intimacy of when you are having something more physical and you know, sex.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. So let me ask you this then. If we're talking about those long-term relationships, do you think it's okay to fake an orgasm?

SPEAKER_01:

Can it ever be? I mean, I think I'm not gonna speak into long-term, you brought it to a long-term relationship.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I'm just saying it's like, is it ever okay? And it's like I fake it, yeah. I mean, in short-term relationships, or let's talk casual sex here for a second. Hell yeah. It's absolutely 100%. You're like, oh yeah, this is so not happening again. Or, you know, you're trying to get to know somebody, you're trying to learn what they're about, and it's like they haven't figured you out yet. It's like that might be an appropriate time as well. But if you're in a you know, long-term relationship and you are faking orgasms every time you guys are together, that's kind of a problem.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah, that is a problem.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, you're clearly not having that talk.

SPEAKER_01:

Whether it's long distance or not, if you're faking it every time, then there's something not of depth there, and it's definitely something to think about be thinking about. Yeah. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00:

But really, totally again. I would totally agree with you on that.

SPEAKER_01:

What does satisfying sex actually look like now? I mean, what do you think?

SPEAKER_00:

Well, I would say if both people are satisfied, like they're both having orgasms, they're both having the pleasure that goes along with it, that there is a it doesn't have to be a long period of time, but enough period of time to where each person is able to kind of, you know, be in the moment.

SPEAKER_01:

I think to the being emotionally connected, that intimacy that we're talking about, less performative, if you will, and more present. I I think that is definitely something to redefine satisfaction.

SPEAKER_00:

What about trying like different positions?

SPEAKER_01:

I mean, there's that too, and just being open to having fun.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, okay, I asked that because I remember having a conversation with someone I was in a relationship with, and it was becoming rather, I would say, I wouldn't say mundane, but it was becoming kind of like predictable, right? Yeah. And I was trying to be that open person to have that conversation. And I was like, I think we just need to mix this up a little bit. We need to try, and he got really offended, you know. But he took it very like to his mat, and I it had nothing to do with his machismo or anything like that, but it was more clearly I wasn't getting what I needed.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay, wait a second. Again, Julie always comes up with these words, machismo is a new one for me. What does that mean? The macho man, you know, like macho macho man. And I figured that that's what it was, but you know, you just use these terms sometimes that are so off the cuff and different that I don't know. So I just had to you know.

SPEAKER_00:

Well, it had to be very clarity to the machismo with how I approach that because I didn't want it to be something that he was feeling I was directing towards him because obviously, you know, I'm half of the equation, right? So I'm taking half ownership of whatever's going on. I'm just saying I want it to be better. Yeah, I want it to be more intimate, I want it to be more exciting.

SPEAKER_01:

And both partners need to be open to that. Exactly. I mean, vice versa. And I can, I mean, I can see where if my partner brought that up at first, maybe it's like a little bit, yeah, he might might take it the wrong kind of way initially.

SPEAKER_00:

I think they know how you're feeling. It's not like you're trying to be, you know, disrespectful or anything like that, right?

SPEAKER_01:

What about as far as you know, these satisfaction things that we're talking about and redefining it? What about self-pleasure and embracing solo sex?

SPEAKER_00:

Okay. What about that? I think that's absolutely 100% on the table. Okay. Yeah, you're gonna see on the table on the couch, on the table of the couch, in the bed, whatever. You have to know about your own body to be able to share how you feel about your body with somebody else.

SPEAKER_01:

Nobody does it better.

SPEAKER_00:

Nobody does it better. She likes to sing that song. It's true. I know. I'm sorry, it's true. But but here we're talking about like your own like figures or whatever, and your device or whatever. You want to be able to show or teach exactly or share with someone else what works for you.

SPEAKER_01:

And if you bring them into that self-pleasure while you're both participating, I mean, that's why exploring those avenues and knowing how your body works and being able to, like Julie said, bring it to the table, or if you're on the bed or the couch or wherever it might be, I think is super important.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, it really is.

SPEAKER_01:

And being confident in that.

SPEAKER_00:

And and your partner might not be super comfortable talking about some of this stuff.

SPEAKER_01:

Right. So you just gotta be comfortable for them.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Just do it with the lights off, and then they won't have to look at you and they'll feel more comfortable talking about it. Start there. That's what all I'm saying. What about casual sex? Well, I can tell you a little bit about that because that's definitely been in my arena. Do share. Do share. Oh, I'm not sharing everything.

SPEAKER_01:

I know, but I mean just like I okay.

SPEAKER_00:

So Michelle and I were having a conversation about this. Casual sex, there's a whole persona of being a hoe, right? And then there's a persona of being particular and having casual sex with people that you're interested in. Now, I have not been a hoe, but I've definitely done the second. And I think that there a lot of that has to do with learning about yourself and learning about what you want and learning about what your boundaries are and respect level, frankly, for yourself. Because there's several different ways to look at it. I mean, dude, we all have needs, right? Yeah. And it's like I've been divorced for a while, I've been in relationships, I know what I want, I know what I like, but it's like there's periods of time where I'm just not really interested in getting into something like that. And so casual sex might be very appropriate, but it would be with someone who I feel very safe and comfortable with and is not just like some one night stand kind of a thing. Right. So that's my way of approaching it. That's not necessarily everyone's way of approaching it, but I think you have to be really safe with what you're doing, you have to be well protected with what you're doing, and you have to speak about what you're doing. We're grown-ass people. Yeah. I mean, it's ridiculous to think that you're not going to have sex unless you're married. It's just stupid to think that. I'm sorry. It's just stupid. That's stupid. Don't apologize. I'm really not sorry. It's okay. Sorry, not sorry. Sorry, not sorry. For all of you under 18, please talk to your parents. Just kidding.

SPEAKER_01:

This is midlife. This is a midlife podcast. We don't have any 18-year-old listeners.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. But I think it's talking openly about, well, not with a like casual sex partner or something. You're just like, this is what works for me, and whatever. It is what it is. And you know, sometimes they would stay, maybe, sometimes I'd stay, maybe not. I prefer just to go home and have my own bed, whatever. But it's a choice. And it's something that is not a casual choice for me. Right. For other women, it might be, and that's totally your jam. No big deal.

SPEAKER_01:

And that's kind of doing it on your own terms. And what those terms are are going to be different for everybody. So we're not here to say what it should be or shouldn't be when it comes to casual sex. Again, that's going to be on your own terms. Whatever that is, it's going to look different for everybody. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

And it's, and that's the that's the beauty of it, I think. Yeah. You just have to be aligned with whoever you're having this casual sex with.

SPEAKER_01:

Or if you're in a relationship.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Well, you don't want to have casual sex if you're in a relationship. I was just going to say, talking about ethical, non-monogamous relationships.

SPEAKER_01:

No, we're not. We already did that episode. We're not talking about that right now. But what I was going to say is talking openly if you are in a relationship about what your preferences are.

SPEAKER_00:

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

If there's any fantasies that, you know, you think about those kinds of things and being able to bring those again to like what Julie said, to the table or to the couch or to the bed. I mean, that's the fun stuff. Yeah. So that's just spicing things up.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, that's usually, you know, if you're in a relationship and you're just being sassy, you know, you're you're surprising your partner. I mean, I think that stuff is amazing if you're able to do it.

SPEAKER_01:

What about some of the things that are helpful for women to have better sex after 40? Like lube. Well, there's that. Maybe some.

SPEAKER_00:

Unless you get the pellets and then you don't have to worry about it. Oh, okay. We'll talk about that in another episode.

SPEAKER_01:

Okay. So yeah, lubricants, toys, podcasts.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Books. Yeah. And probably there are shows. Have you ever seen the Kama Sutra book? Have you ever looked at that? What is it? It's just basically all these different sex positions. Oh, no. And I'm looking at this going, that just does not even look fun. Like I've looked at some of them and like I would just do that almost to just say, okay, I've done that, but it doesn't even look fun. Yeah. You know? Yeah. I think fantasies are really important. That's what keeps kind of the excitement and the energy alive when you're in a relationship. I don't really know that it applies to people that are in casual, you know, situations as much because they're just focusing on the casual. But if you're in a relationship, oh my God, it's like Michelle, show up at the door in your French made outfit.

SPEAKER_01:

Or with a trench coat on and nothing underneath. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00:

You know, just don't show up to his work because he might be a little freaked about that. Anyway. But yeah, no, I think all of that stuff is on the table, as Michelle would say.

SPEAKER_01:

Yeah. I think body confidence practices are a good thing. And some of those things outside of the obvious like communication tools and books and different things like that are just I'm a I'm a self-proponent for taking selfies and taking pictures of yourself in the mirror. If you're feeling good about yourself, and that's where I'm talking about body confidence. And if you're feeling sexy or if you got lingerie on or whatever it might be, you know, there is nothing wrong with taking a picture of yourself in that mirror, and you can keep it to yourself, or you can share it with your, you know, if you have a partner in our inner relationship, share it with them, or like I said, just keep it for your own library and for your own eyes for no other purpose than to be feeling good about yourself. 100%. There's nothing wrong with that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00:

So and I think what it really boils down to is we don't need a permission slip. We're grown-ass women, and you don't need to owe anyone a performance. You deserve to have pleasure in your life. You deserve to be able to share what works for you. And I'll be damned if you don't need to apologize for it.

SPEAKER_01:

No, no apologies. No apologies. And no apology not accepted.

SPEAKER_00:

Anyway, with that in mind, you guys.

SPEAKER_01:

Just check us out on our socials. We are on Facebook and Instagram. We would love to hear from you. So if you, you know, we have, as you heard at the beginning of the episode, a spicy community that is coming your way, and we would love to know what you want to get from that. So drop us a DM in either Instagram or Facebook messages at spicy midlife women and let us know what you would love to see in that community. And we're just super excited about it. So check us out there. Keep downloading. Like, follow, share with your friends if you enjoy what you're getting from us. We would love to have you spread the word.

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That's all we want you to spread, is just the word.

SPEAKER_01:

Not your legs or anything else. Spread the word. And until then, next week, later everybody, have a good one. Stay spicy. Bye.