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Ep 102 - On Location -Cheers to Unconventional Brews: Exploring Unique Tastes of The Goat Brewing

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Step inside The Goat Brewing with us in this vibrant episode of the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast! We dive deep into a diverse tasting session featuring ten unique beers that showcase the creativity and innovation of craft brewing. From classic brews like the Black Ruby Oatmeal Stout to bold experiments such as the Gose with Salsa, each sip opens a new conversation about flavors, aromas, and personal preferences. 

Meet us at the bar as we sample a mix of stouts, sours, and creative ciders. We'll share our candid thoughts on the light yet bold Katz Imperial Pilsner, ponder the complex notes of the St. Valentine's Day Massacre Raspberry Chocolate Dark Sour Ale, and appreciate the balance of flavors in the Racket Caramel Cinnamon Hard Cider. 

As we explore the Boss Doppelbock and the Mountain Goat Belgian Tripel, we reflect on the significance of style-specific characteristics and how they influence our ratings. This episode isn't just a tasting—it’s a celebration of craft beer culture, highlighting the community and camaraderie that surrounds it. 

Join us for this flavorful journey, engage in lively discussions, and discover new favorites. Tune in, share your beer experiences, and connect with fellow beer appreciators as we navigate the fascinating world of craft beer together. Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and let us know your thoughts on the episode! Cheers!

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast. Grab a beer and pull up a chair. Welcome to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast.

Speaker 2:

Hey, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome back to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast. This is Mike, the Northwoods Beer Guy, and, as always, I'm joined by Jim. Hello everybody. Hey, mike, how are you doing? I'm doing good man. How about yourself? Well, we're in a bar, so you can't not be good no we're not in a bar, we're in a tap room. We're in a tap room, so it's even better. It's even better In a brewery, in a brewery, so it's really good. We are actually in Lee Summit, missouri, never heard of it.

Speaker 2:

Have you? I have heard of it, but not that much, there you go uh, and we are in the goat, the goat. So is there a town?

Speaker 1:

that's close by this lee summit.

Speaker 2:

And what's the bigger town? Oh, the bigger town, it's kansas city. There you go. Yep, so we had. We had left kansas city after we went to my boulevard and we're working our way back towards where we're actually staying Right, and we found the goat, the goat, the goat. Is it now? You told me before, before it went on the air? This is different than Horny Goat. Yes, this is correct. This is a different brewery. This is the goat brewing, not Horny Goat brewing Okay so.

Speaker 2:

I just want to make sure I so I didn't taste these incorrectly. Correct, correct, okay, and we are doing a couple of flights, and here there are five beer flights.

Speaker 1:

So we got 10 beers.

Speaker 2:

That's five beers. Five beers in a flight, so we have 10 beers. We're going to try and it's kind of an interesting flight. I mean, they got these little metal.

Speaker 1:

Look like mustaches.

Speaker 2:

Kind of yeah, but I think they're supposed to be goat horns, I think. Oh, but we'll leave it at that. You could like grab this and like throw it around, can't you? Oh yeah, you could, except don't stab yourself, they're kind of sharp. And he said don't slide them. And don't slide them, he said, because they kind of tip over. So the first beer that we have, we already got interruptions. Oh geez, now she doesn't have to drink a beer now. Now she doesn't have to be part of it. We can't block that out. See, oh yeah, okay, we're doing five on the first beer that we have.

Speaker 3:

I don't have a piece of paper, is there?

Speaker 2:

Black Ruby, it's an oatmeal stout, yes, and we do not have any kind of write-up other than ABV and IBUs. And style and style 4.6% ABV, 28 IBUs.

Speaker 1:

All right, oh it smells like an oatmeal stout.

Speaker 2:

I wonder why it got the name Black Ruby, the same way that it got the name the Goat. There's a stout aroma. Yes, it's not bad.

Speaker 2:

It is not bad it definitely to me has a little bit of that roasted malt. It's roasted. You get that burnt flavor to it a little bit. It's not bad but, it's not like. It's kind of a what's a good word. I'm trying to think of a good word for the flavor. The burntness kind of sticks out more than anything. It definitely has like a roasted malt flavor. I'm trying the aroma. I'm trying to look at the color. I mean the color is not. It's a little lighter. I mean I can see my fingers through it.

Speaker 1:

So it's not.

Speaker 2:

It's dark, but it's not like Smooked oil. There you go. Yeah, it is. So I mean, it's what you would expect for an oatmeal stout kind of that color, you know. I guess the burnt comes out more. Oh, we got a smoky coming over here. Smoky, yeah, that's kind of the yeah Kind of. The main flavor is kind of that burnt malt. That really. Now, on my second taste, it really comes through. Yeah, I agree with you. So, mike, what do you think I'm going to go? I'm going to do like a 2.77. It's not bad, it's better than average, but it definitely still has that, like I said, a lot of a burnt, like a roasted malt flavor. It almost dries your mouth out too, and the finish does. I think I was going to go with 2.6. And our guest that wants to remain anonymous is going to say what are you going to say?

Speaker 3:

What are the from 1 to 1?

Speaker 2:

0 to 5. In 1 tenth increments I'd go 2.8.

Speaker 3:

2.8. I enjoyed it 2.8.

Speaker 2:

2.8. I enjoyed it. 2.8. 2.8 for our guests. All right, all right, so not a bad way to start off. Like I said, I've never had any beers from here before, so you don't know what you're getting into.

Speaker 1:

Right, and we don't have any. Yeah, there's no write-up. We don't know what's in it Even on their menu.

Speaker 2:

It was just here's the beer, here's the style. It was the same thing, so all right. So we got one done, yes, and now we're doing. The next one is the St Valentine's Day Massacre Raspberry Chocolate Dark Sour Ale. So this does have a different color. This is a different color 4.4% ABV, two IBUs. Have we ever had a beer with that few IBUs? I don't know that. That actually calls it out. I don't know. 2 IBUs, that's odd. I can't really smell much of anything. Huh Well, let's give her a whirl, all right, as long as you try it first, you don't hurl.

Speaker 2:

It's not bad. It's a sour but it's definitely. You get that raspberry of the chocolate kind of brings it down.

Speaker 1:

That's not bad. Oh, I don't mind that that one's not like a part.

Speaker 2:

No, not a tart. That one surprises me a little bit then the raspberry is not that bad.

Speaker 2:

No, the raspberry is not. It's not like a tart raspberry and that one chocolate kind of mellows it down. It's not bad. That kind of reminds me of the bar in town brewing. So a little bit, a little bit, it's, it's. It's actually not that bad. But there is like the faint sour on the finish. I hate to say it, between the first two I'd rather drink this one. Honestly, it's not. I mean, the sour is like right on the very, very end. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, it's not that bad really. It's not a strong, sour.

Speaker 2:

It's surprising, but I don't get the dark chocolate. The raspberry kind of overpowers the chocolate. I think you get the raspberry for sure, right? Yes, the chocolate. I'm guessing that's what probably mellows it out a little bit, but it's not bad. It's better than I thought it was going to be. Right, this is definitely better than the first one. Yes, I would agree, I guess. What do you think on the score on that one, jim? So the Raspberry Chocolate Dark Sour Ale, st Valentine's Day Massacre.

Speaker 2:

The second one was even more sour than the first two. I think I'm going to have to give it a solid 2.0. For me it's just as sour. Okay, I can't. I thought it would get weaker as I drank it more, down to the glut, but they actually the sourness came out more. So it's a little. I was. I was hoping for more raspberry chocolate. I'm gonna have to go to point two, point oh, all right, what are you thinking? Um, I don't mind it, I'm gonna take another taste here. I'm gonna go a. I'll go like a 2.4. Oh, I mean, it's almost average for me, I know, for you it's not terrible by any means, but I mean we've had better. Don't get me wrong. It didn't reach Barn Town. I thought it would. It was like the first sip was good and then Barn Town was really, really good. This is for, like your other sour beer place. This is not a bad sour for a different place, right, but it's not Barntown level. So, yes, all right, our guest Anonymous.

Speaker 3:

I actually think it's a nice blend of flavors. The raspberry does come on strong, but if you're a raspberry lover, then you're going to like this one.

Speaker 2:

So what would you give it for a score?

Speaker 3:

Probably a 2.6.

Speaker 2:

So you like the first one better.

Speaker 3:

Well, no.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you just said 2.8.

Speaker 3:

Well then, I'm going higher with this. It's 2.9.

Speaker 2:

2.9?.

Speaker 3:

I like it All right.

Speaker 2:

Well, you've got to make sure you get your scores right. The listeners are going to get confused. If you see you like the first one, we get this worst score.

Speaker 3:

This is actually. This is a.

Speaker 1:

It's a completely different type of drink than the first one To me it's a complete.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, from a stout to a sour. Yeah, it's completely different. Yeah, you can finish my part. It's that difference I love raspberries, so that's probably why the raspberries? But?

Speaker 3:

the raspberries are mellow.

Speaker 2:

Yes On the right, it could be the dark chocolate or the dark sour. I don't know which one it is. I don't know.

Speaker 3:

Either one. At the end you have the raspberries and at the end you taste the chocolate. My tongue gets it. I have the berries.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I'll pass, not my favorite, all right. All right, what do we got coming up? So the next one we have is cats Like meow Yep, and this is their Imperial Pilsner. All right, 8.5 percent abv and 13 ibus. So do you know offhand I'm putting you in a spot how many imperial pilsners have we tried? Not very many, I mean. It's not many. I mean like I was thinking like under five, I would think I'm sure. I'm sure I mean we had many Pilsners, right.

Speaker 1:

Pilsners are not.

Speaker 2:

Pilsners all day long, but Imperial. We haven't had that many, so this should be twice as strong, it should be, Like two Miller Lights in one, can you would think. You would think it's definitely darker than your normal Pilsilsner. You know, I mean darker, but still you can see through it, right, right. So this is a double miller light.

Speaker 1:

Well, flavor isn't bad, so there is flavor, there's flavor to it and it's thicker than I thought it was going to be.

Speaker 2:

you know what I mean. Um, but I don't know what the flavors are coming through. Right, right, it doesn't taste like your mass-produced big-box beers, but it does have flavor to it. I mean it's not, I mean for a Pilsner Right and, like I said, for 8.5%, it drinks smooth. You know, I mean that one's actually, I think I like that one, the best for me so far, just because I mean so. I know it's going to be a pilsner, so I know there's not going to be flavor, but there's something that's a little bit. It puts it a step above it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know what that is.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I agree, I agree. I wish I knew what that it's got an intangible being, that imperial Right In a good way. In a good way. That's what are you thinking on a score? Well, let me have one more sip.

Speaker 2:

All right, I'll take another sip Because, like I said, we are doing taster glasses. So what are you? 8.5%, so much that I'm going to go with 3.1. Wow, I like this one. I like the flavor. I think I could drink a couple bottles of this on a hot date. Okay, oh, we. A couple bottles of this on a hot date. Okay, oh, we almost had a catastrophe. We almost had a catastrophe and she doesn't even realize it. Okay, so you're going to 3-1. I'll go 3-1.

Speaker 2:

Okay, what are you thinking? I'm thinking I'm going to go like a 2.8. All right, it's not bad. I mean, for a pilsner it's pretty good, you know. It definitely has more flavor, I think, than your box store type Pilsners. But like I said, personally I guess I would rather drink either one of the first two the second one for sure over this one.

Speaker 1:

But it's not bad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know my score was still higher than this one, but I do still think that so could you drink this on a hot day after you get done mowing, yeah, you could. If you had this on ice cold sitting in the shade. This would be the. I think I would reach for this beer. Yeah, you could drink this one, Even though it's 8.5%.

Speaker 1:

it's not a lawn mower beer by any means but it's still you could drink it After you get done lawn mowing.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, any means, but it's still After you get done one more. Yeah, you can drink it, Our guest. What do you think?

Speaker 3:

I think this is my favorite so far.

Speaker 2:

Oh, even better than the rest. The rest, Barry.

Speaker 3:

Yes, this has a nicer blend. It's not getting ending. It's just a nice mix of flavors.

Speaker 2:

So could you drink a whole glass of this? Oh, yes, definitely. So, what would you give for a score?

Speaker 3:

Probably a 3.3. I like it a lot. Wow, I like it a lot.

Speaker 2:

You didn't say it right. I like it a lot, is that how? Yeah, a lot, a lot. Oh, you're getting it. So you can finish that one. Yeah, I thought that one was very good, yeah, so you can finish that one. Yeah, I thought that one was very good, yeah, I mean it has good flavor to it. It's not your normal Pilsner flavor you don't get many like just the basic, ale lager Pilsner flavor. This one has something.

Speaker 2:

Yep I agree with you. I don't know exactly what, but it has flavor. Yep, I agree with you. All right, so we're down three out of five on the first. Yep, I agree with you. All right, so we're down three out of five on the first Yep. So we got two left in the first flight, all right. So what do we got next? So the next one. We'll grab the darker colored one, which is kind of like an amber. Look, all right, this is the Boss. Doppelbach.

Speaker 2:

Ale Is it this Boss, or is it this Boss? It's not the Boss.

Speaker 1:

Oh, it is the Boss it.

Speaker 2:

It's not the boss, oh, it is the boss. It's not the boss, it's the boss. Oh, can we call it Bruce Springsteen?

Speaker 1:

No.

Speaker 2:

No, we can't call it Bruce Springsteen. Oh okay, we don't want to get in trouble. Ah okay, all right, this is 8.3% ABV and 19 IBUs. Oh, it smells like a Doppelbach. So is this like a doppelbach? So is this like a doppelganger kind of? So it like mimics another one, right? Oh, that's got kind of a thicker flavor to it. I would say we've definitely had some other doppelbachs that are better. Yeah, there's something. I mean, it's got really a dark taste to it, almost.

Speaker 1:

I don't know how you want to classify it, but so you know and it weird, you know, armchair quarterbacking it without knowing so.

Speaker 2:

Right. What did they do then to the doppel to make it 8.3 yeah, I don't know, because that's high for a doppel right. So they did something you know, and I wonder if that affected the flavor it could have, because, like I said it, it definitely. Most of your doppelbox are not that high of abv, no, but, and this one is, but it's definitely got a stronger flavor to it. I'm still, the finish is still it's not cleared by mouth yet.

Speaker 1:

I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

I mean it's like hanging on, I mean, and what's weird? It's not like totally bad Right, it's not horrendous, but it's like it's there. I mean, you know so a lot of beers. You want to be able to take the drink after the finish. Your mouth is clean. But this one is like ooh, there's stuff there.

Speaker 1:

There's something hanging.

Speaker 2:

That's the only way to say it is. There's stuff there. It's like got my tongue and it's not going to let go. I agree, dude. I agree, I'm not sold on this one. Yeah, this one's a little. I mean, you know me, I like Doppelbox, I like Box, all that stuff. This one is definitely a stronger flavor to it and kudos for them, you know, bumping up the ABV. Oh yeah, yes, kudos, but the flavor is just a little. But boy, it's a strong. It's not an easy uh drink, right? I agree with you?

Speaker 1:

what? Uh? Oh, you're gonna put me in the corner, put you in the corner.

Speaker 2:

What do you think on the score? I think I'm gonna have to go like a 2.2. I think I'm gonna have to lower it down. Yeah, it's, it's not bad, it's just it. It takes some getting used to. It's right, I agree. Yeah, the finish. I my mouth is drying out like it's hoppy. I mean it's not the hop, but there's something drying my mouth out, right, and it's still there lingering.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I agree with you.

Speaker 2:

And I really like Doppelbox, you know I do I like? Doppelbox. I like Box, but boy, this one, the flavor is really strong, and again it's 8.3%, so it's definitely higher than normal Yep, but boy, that flavor really hits you in the mouth. Oh, and I'm going to go. I agree, I'm going to go like a 2.2 as well, are you? Yeah, it's just really strong A little bit too much. Yes, there you go. I agree 100%. That's the best way to say it. It is. I agree 100%. That's the best way to say it.

Speaker 3:

I think they had a good plan, but it didn't really kind of come off it didn't materialize. Guest. I agree, this is my least favorite of all of them. So far. At the end it stays in your mouth and it's not one of that people. It's not.

Speaker 2:

It hangs on too long and it's like I'm probably going to get a better one. 2.0? Yeah, all right, there too long and it's like I'm probably gonna get about 2.0. All right, there is, there are no wrong answers no, it's still in my mouth. Yeah it dries it out. Yes, almost like super hoppy, but but it's not a hop but it's not because I I mean, no, it's not, it's something different.

Speaker 3:

It just doesn't get out of your mouth.

Speaker 2:

All right, so now all. So our last, 100% agree. Our last beer on the first flight. All right, is there Rocket Caramel Cinnamon. Wait wait, wait, that's an A.

Speaker 1:

Rocket, I'm sorry, I thought you said Rocket, it's Rocket.

Speaker 2:

Caramel, cinnamon. I just caught that too. It's a sweet, a sweet hard apple cider with caramel and cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon, cinnamon, and it's a 6% ABV, wow, and it definitely looks like it's an apple cider. So it's hard apple cider. Oh boy, wait till you smell this one. You farted. No, no, oh, no, no.

Speaker 1:

I thought you were warning me.

Speaker 2:

This one smells like caramel apple, all right, well, just let me know if you do, though this one's about the clearest one we got. Yeah, I can see my fingers all the way through.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, for sure.

Speaker 2:

I can see. Take a whiff on that one. Oh, there's caramel. There's caramel in that one, wow, yeah, there's caramel apple in that for sure. Wow, but that's not a beer, is it? It's a cider. So is that technically a beer? Or, yeah, it's technically a beer? Oh, again, I guess is like going what? Well, pass that one around to see what. Yeah, well, everybody else, try that one, that's a caramel.

Speaker 1:

It tastes like a beer car are sent.

Speaker 2:

It's a racket. Caramel, cinnamon, that's 6%. Yep, pass it down that way. So what do you think of that one, jim, I mean? So I struggle. I think we went through this, since it's a hard cider, is it technically a beer? I know we talked that it is a beer. Right, it's a beer. Yeah, so it's. I mean it's because it doesn't have a lot of the qualities of a beer. Right, that's, that's right. You know, that's where I struggle. So I'm trying to compare this hard cider against some of our good beers. But I mean, there's nothing, nothing bad, nothing wrong, nothing horrendous. I mean right, could I drink a six pack of it?

Speaker 3:

no, I mean I couldn't, because I get heartburn.

Speaker 2:

I think so on a hot day, could I?

Speaker 3:

get an ice cold one.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, An ice cold one. Yeah, you could For sure.

Speaker 2:

You know, that's always the kicker with cider is like, is it beer or not? Right, and technically, yes, it is, but you know, that's just kind of the hard part of it. You know, yes, and we're trying to be like, I think, give the cider the benefit, we're not trying to knock it because it's not 100% a beer, correct? So do you want me to go? I'll go. I'm going to go with two points. I've got to double check so you don't get mad. Oh, I had what I was going to go with. I'll go with two and a half.

Speaker 2:

Right in the average, right in the middle. It's not bad, I do think if you drink more than one, you get heartburn?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get heartburn, yeah, and it's 26%.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's not bad. It definitely has that caramel flavor. Yes, you know, I get the caramel. I kind of get cinnamon, I get apple and caramel is what I get.

Speaker 1:

Right, oh for sure.

Speaker 2:

So yeah, all right, I'm going to actually go a 2.3. Okay, I'm not a big fan, it's, it's okay, it's just, uh, I don't know it, somehow it just doesn't mix right for me as a beer, right, it almost has, it almost has a french toast smell to it. Yeah, you know, I mean it's kind of that, that smell and like, well, huh, it is for me.

Speaker 3:

I think it smells better than it tastes sure, yeah, you know and it's not one that I don't think I could drink a whole day, not even on a hot day. No, I don't enjoy that. I didn't like it.

Speaker 2:

So what do?

Speaker 3:

you think 1.9. I really didn't like it, oh wow. She's dropping the hammer Even after mowing the lawn with the bush mower, I wouldn't have.

Speaker 2:

Even on a hot day.

Speaker 3:

I don't think so. I think you're going to share.

Speaker 2:

All right well.

Speaker 3:

And I love apples and I love apple cider and I love that and I just didn't get the blend. All right, it didn't come together for me I understand.

Speaker 2:

Good answer, all right, perfect. So I understand. Good answer, all right, perfect. So now we're going to move on to our second. Oh, there we go, flight. This one's going to.

Speaker 1:

This one. There's a few more.

Speaker 2:

That could be interesting, yeah, so. So can we have the goose with the salad? You want to do that one first? Yeah, we can. So this is their cartel. And this is a goose with salsa. Oh, and this is a ghost with salsa. Oh, it's not the goose with salad. It's not the goose with salad, it's a ghost with salsa. It looked like that. Four and a half percent and nine IBUs. So when I ordered the flight, the gentleman at the bar said this is something that you've never had before. I've never had goose with salad. So I'm not sure if that means it's going to be really bad or what. So we're going to find out. So what is a goose? A goose is a style of beer. It's not a goose. It's not a goose, it's a ghost. There's only one out.

Speaker 2:

But I don't know what salsa is. I've never had a beer with salsa, and that's not a salad. There's not a fruit salad in there. I'm trying to concentrate on the smell here. Oh, I might have parted. Don't concentrate too hard.

Speaker 2:

There's salsa in there, that is I can safely say, I've never tasted a beer like that one before. You may have just intimidated me to have some. Wow, interesting, that is interesting. Give her a whirl, are you sure? Oh yeah, give her a whirl. Definitely salty. Oh my gosh, it tastes like salsa, like liquid salsa. It is liquid salsa. Wow, that is definitely different. Where's my chip?

Speaker 3:

wow, I need a chip with that, one that is liquid salsa.

Speaker 2:

Very salty, very salty flavor. The finish is very. The finish is very salty. Very salty flavor. The finish is very. The fish is very salty very salty we had a oh good God.

Speaker 3:

no, oh good God.

Speaker 2:

Let me give it to Mike's dad. That is definitely unique. It tastes like liquid salsa, that is, it is like liquid salsa and it's only 4.5% ABV. All right, that is definitely unique.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you're going first on this one buddy he did not lie.

Speaker 2:

He said it's like nothing you've ever tasted before, and I agree 100%. We've never had that I've never tasted a beer like that before.

Speaker 3:

Does that mean, it's good?

Speaker 2:

It doesn't necessarily mean it's good. I'm already getting heartburn. Yeah, I'm going to go, I'm burping it. So do we have to rate it based on the beers we had on the first page or no, or is this a brand new? Okay, I'm going to go with 2.0 because it's definitely, definitely different. But it's like whew, I don't necessarily know if I could drink a can of that. You couldn't. I'm not sure. It's four point five. Four point five, nine I'd use. Yeah, there's no.

Speaker 1:

There's no hoppy in this no, no, no, there's no hops it's just that it's like woof.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's interesting, you went down to it too. Huh, when I have though I rarely see you go down that low. You know that, I know, but this one was. It was kind of wow, you know I'm thinking you're not even going to go up a two, are you? I'm going to go 1.5. Yeah, see it, definitely it's still there. I can't get it out. Like I said, it tastes like a liquid salsa. I might need some sandpaper. All right, our special guest.

Speaker 3:

Well, when I can tomatoes, it's like what's left in the bottle of the can. I didn't enjoy it. It wasn't beer, it wasn't a salsa, it wasn't anything. It was that good? Oh no, it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it wasn't a beer.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't a salsa ride, it wasn't anything.

Speaker 3:

It was that good, oh, no, it wasn't oh. It wasn't.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if you want to pour it over some chips, maybe it'd be good, but to drink, no, it could be. I'm a pretty mean critic, I think yeah.

Speaker 3:

I would give it like a 1. 0?, 1.0.

Speaker 2:

Wow. Wow, like I said, I think I would get heartburn out of that deal If I drank a whole can of it. It would be like. Yeah, you could surprise somebody if you did that. Totally that was different than anything I've ever tasted before. So crazy. I was like points for originality.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes I mean that was a good effort though.

Speaker 2:

Yes, but they may have just poured out some salsa. Yeah, screened it, yeah all right.

Speaker 3:

What are we on the?

Speaker 2:

next one we have is their mountain goat. Mountain goat and this is their belgian triple. All right, 10.3 abv and 32 ibus. All right, so we're stepping it up a notch. We're stepping her up quite a bit. A Belgian Tripel, so it should be it should have that Belgian flavor to it, so it should taste similar to the last one then, right.

Speaker 3:

How do you clear that up?

Speaker 2:

That definitely tastes like a Belgian Tripel.

Speaker 1:

Similar to the last one.

Speaker 2:

No, that didn't taste like salsa at all. There's no salsa in that one.

Speaker 3:

How do you clear from the one before though?

Speaker 2:

But for a Belgian triple that's not bad. That is definitely not the salsa. No, that's not the salsa. But there's definitely Belgian yeast in there. Oh, yeah, there's Belgian yeast for sure in there. You know, and not to knock this one, but the cherry quad that we had at Boulevard, oh, that was extremely, that was really good, very good. Yeah, this is not. This definitely has that thicker mouthfeel to it. Yeah, this is not, as it has that thicker mouthfeel to it and it's like it definitely has that Belgian yeast flavor.

Speaker 2:

You can tell it's Belgian, oh yeah for sure I mean, I can handle this one though. Yeah, oh yeah, compared to the If you want this or the salsa, I'll take this one all day long. Because that salsa one was just like oof, oof, oof. I'm surprised, you know, I don't see your score down that low, I know.

Speaker 1:

I know, I'm surprised you know I don't see your score down that low.

Speaker 2:

I know, I know that one caught me off guard. This might be my. I might be in uncharted territory with you. 2.0. So on the triple, on the triple, I'm going to go. I don't mind that one as bad. I'm going to do like a 2.8. Oh, wow, yeah, I don't mind it. I could drink this one or the salsa one. I don't know if I could drink that one.

Speaker 1:

to be honest, with you, you couldn't drink the whole can.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't drink a can of it. It was too freaky-beaky for me. I think it had a little slight touch of Dutch.

Speaker 2:

It had something in there that was not very good. Wow, and you know me, I am not a Belgian, right? Yep, that's why I was so taken back by the cherry from Boulevard, right, because that was good. Yep, this one, that's good for me. I'm going to say a 2.5. Okay, it's got that Belgian, just like it's got that Belgian yeast flavor, if you're not used to it, where the quad at Boulevard didn't really have that.

Speaker 1:

It kicks you in the knee Right If you're not used to it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I agree, I agree with you.

Speaker 3:

And I enjoy Belgian gear.

Speaker 2:

Oh, so what do you think?

Speaker 3:

I enjoy Belgian gear. I would give it like a 2.9 at least.

Speaker 2:

Wow. What did she say? 2.9, at least wow. What did she say 2.9? Oh, dang see, how did you see?

Speaker 3:

wow it gets in your mouth, it's in there, you drink it and it just wait wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2:

Say that again. What did I do? Say that louder, it gets in your mouth. That's a good thing right.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it is a good thing. I enjoy Belgian beer.

Speaker 2:

I'm not a Belgian guy.

Speaker 3:

You know, you've got to remember, I lived in Germany before and after, so you know I like that little bit of strongness.

Speaker 2:

Did you try that Belgian quad with the cherry at the last that?

Speaker 3:

was Boulevard.

Speaker 2:

It's liquid salsa. The cherry actually overtook the Belgian yeast part.

Speaker 3:

Was it good?

Speaker 2:

Was the cherry good? The cherry was good.

Speaker 3:

We're at now.

Speaker 2:

We are on to our 2.9. Our lone barrel-aged beer here. Okay, this is their barrel-aged Riverside Park. All right, imperial Stout whiskey, barrel-aged we don't know what kind of whiskey. Whiskey 10% ABV, 40 IBUs. All right, so still not way out there, right, not to get scared. Right, it should be decent. Yeah, I can't. Just from the aroma I can't tell what kind of it, definitely does have.

Speaker 2:

It has kind of a whiskey flavor to it. I can smell something. It's smooth. It does definitely have more of a whiskey, a little bit of a whiskey burn to it. I can smell something. It's smooth. It does definitely have more of a whiskey, a little bit of a whiskey burn to it more so than Boulevard did Riverside Park, would you agree? Yes, I think it has a little bit more of a burn to it than what the other ones Boulevard did, definitely it's stronger.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, it's got that little bit more of a burn to it. Yeah, this is not just the regular Imperial Stout. So what do you like? I said I think I'm really getting the strong.

Speaker 1:

I'm getting more of the bourbon.

Speaker 2:

Yes, the whiskey flavor Right Than I am any other, even the Stout part, Because it says barrel aged or whiskey barrel aged Okay so. Like we talked about before, right, right. So they have a base, right. They're imperial stuff, right. We haven't tried that. No, we don't know what that is at all.

Speaker 3:

We don't know what that is.

Speaker 2:

But then they age it in a whiskey barrel. So now we're trying to decipher what these are.

Speaker 1:

So I don't know we're Right, these are.

Speaker 2:

I don't know I wish I knew what this one was. Yes, because that or what the whiskey? What whiskey they use? You know what I mean? Because I wish I knew what the whiskey that they used was. I'm sorry we're laughing at People are trying the salsa beer yet and it's not going over very well. So this is their whiskey barrel age Right. So we talk about you. You know there are some breweries right that have a really good stout, yes, who then make it imperial stout, who have a good. They have a good base, yeah. And then when they put it in these bourbon barrels or whiskey barrels or, right, any kind of barrel, right, they have it. They comes out good because correct. So for me I'm struggling because I don't taste the good base, I agree, you know I taste more of. So did they age it? They aged the, I don't know. They see there's a lot of the plate, the bourbon, the whiskey's coming through, for the hard part is we're coming off of going to boulevard. They know what they're doing, yes.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if this is the goat's first attempt at a barrel age. I don't know 100%. You know what I mean. So we really don't know where in the progression they're at. 100%, you and I can tell that, right, because we're not experts, correct, correct, but we're probably. We've drank enough to know if something's good or not. We're probably pretty close. So for us, for me, I think I would have to say this is not as good as I was hoping. Right, it's not bad, but I don't know if I can give it a good, solid score. No, no For a barrel-aged beer like.

Speaker 2:

I said I wish we knew if this was their first attempt at it or not. Yes, If it was their first attempt, I probably would give it a little more leniency, Yep. But we don't know that, so I'm going to just rate it like I normally would. I'm going to go like a 2.4, I guess. I mean, I think it's a little bit below average, you know, and I know that it's 10%, but it's just kind of lacking you know, and whatever that flavor is.

Speaker 2:

It's not something that I could sit there and say, oh, you need to try this, right, and you know, in good conscience, to say you've got to try it because it's really just kind of it's there and here's. I don't know if I can even offer a recommendation that they would get through this, but you know, you're trying a new beer and you have all these other variants and you might I can't say you are, but you might be scaring away some novice beer drinkers I agree 100 with you, you know, because in this place your first, somebody that hasn't had a barrel age beer before.

Speaker 2:

This is not one I recommend because it does have that stronger right. And here we are at a place with, I mean, there's a lot of younger people hanging out and this might be their first try and I'll be like well, I'm never gonna try a barrel age's beer again. Right. So I'm right with you. I was going to go with 2.4. I think it is just a little bit below average. Okay, I agree 100%, and our guests.

Speaker 3:

My favorite part of that was the finish. It's done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, vanilla came out for me, vanilla came out of that.

Speaker 3:

It For me vanilla came out of that. It wasn't the beginning of.

Speaker 2:

Did she say vanilla?

Speaker 3:

Vanilla, I didn't get vanilla. Ice ice baby, I didn't get vanilla.

Speaker 2:

She must be hammered drunk.

Speaker 3:

At the end of it it was vanilla.

Speaker 1:

Which one.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't that.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I'm not saying it was bad, but the end of it was vanilla.

Speaker 3:

Oh, that was the Crass, Crass yeah, isn't that For me, the end was vanilla. That was a very strong taste of vanilla at the end of it.

Speaker 2:

I did not catch that, but I really didn't taste it. But so what are you thinking on the score?

Speaker 3:

It was a strong flavor to begin with, and then also just like that of meld, and it was vanilla.

Speaker 1:

Right, that's kind of very.

Speaker 2:

Right, yeah, right. So what are you thinking? 2.9.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she's hammered drunk.

Speaker 2:

Wow, Wait, wait wait. You just gave them all and go to 2.9. You can't have the same scores. Oh she yeah she can. It's because you changed the rules.

Speaker 1:

She can have it. She can have the same score, so let me ask you this yeah know then, if you like one more than the other.

Speaker 2:

If you give them the same score, maybe I liked them equally, so then how would?

Speaker 3:

the listener know that you should, because I have the same score there and there but you have a belgian triple but for a different reason. My reasons were different from that one to that one. You're not gonna win. You can punch him if you want to.

Speaker 2:

Well, so you do this we don't do it for us, we do it for the, the listeners. So I'm going to put you on the spot which one is better, the triple or the stout? Which?

Speaker 3:

one's the triple.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry, I'm still trying to finish. I'm still trying to finish this salsa beer and it's just like ugh. I'm going to put you on the spot, just so that the listeners know you have one that's better than the other.

Speaker 3:

I would say the mountain goat is better.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so it's not going to hurt. But then the listeners know, hey, if they come in here. They don't know who your secret person is. Right, exactly All right. So, mike, what do we got now? I'm sorry, I'm trying to get rid of that salsa taste up in my mouth. The next one we have is the Chesterfield Club Barbara Ann. Barbara Ann, this is a strawberry chocolate blonde ale. Okay, 4.9% ABV and 16 IBUs. This kind of has me intrigued.

Speaker 1:

It actually does this, has these good flavors.

Speaker 2:

So, kat, we have a chocolate strawberry blonde ale. I'm kind of looking forward to this one, low ABV and low ABU. Oh, it smells chocolatey. It smells color-wise, I mean it looks like you're a blonde ale, a normal blonde ale. It looks like a blonde ale. Aroma-wise, it smells chocolatey. That's not bad.

Speaker 1:

That is actually not too bad. The chocolate kind of keeps the strawberry in check. It's not over the top of either one.

Speaker 2:

That's not bad. It's not bad. Strawberry blonde, strawberry, chocolate blonde, ale that's different.

Speaker 1:

It's actually not bad.

Speaker 2:

That one's that's not. I don't mind that one. I mean for the other flavors I was. I mean that's actually pretty good. Yeah, I mean for the other flavors I was. I mean that's actually pretty good. Yeah, for a blonde ale which normally doesn't have much flavor, realistically to have a strawberry chocolate, right, it gives it just enough to where you can taste it, right, you know it's not bad. I'm actually liking it a little bit. Yeah, I hate to say it, it's kind of not bad. Yeah, the strawberry and chocolate kind of balance each other out and I don't mind it, honestly.

Speaker 2:

I think I could actually drink a can of it. I could probably drink a can of it after mowing the lawn and it's hot out. It's a cold day, it's a cold beer. That's not bad. That one's not bad. That one's it's not bad. Yeah, I mean I think that the flavors are not over the top. No, I mean they're a little bit muted. So I mean, right like I don't. And somehow they got the chocolate and the strawberry. They almost counteract each other yeah, you know, yeah, and it.

Speaker 2:

it's yeah, and it doesn't have like that. Like normally you get like almost a sour flavor to it. It doesn't have that you know, or the strawberries are too bitter.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

I mean, when you smell it, you definitely get yeah, I get the strawberry, but it's not that over-the-top, you know, because we've had some too.

Speaker 2:

Over-the-top strawberries. Oh yeah For sure. So I guess I'll go first. I'm like a mediocre fan, I think. Okay, I'll probably go like a 2.7. Okay, my rationale is the flavors are not very distinct. It's not bad, but I don't taste a lot of strawberry, I don't taste a lot of chocolate. I don't know if they counteract each other, but they make a good flavor, but not an over-the-top flavor. So I was kind of looking for a little bit more flavor. Okay, yep, I understand, for myself, boy, I'm going to go like a. I'm going to do a 2.7 as well. Okay, I think, honestly, the strawberry and chocolate flavors I thought worked very well together, but there wasn't enough there to raise it up to like a 3. Right, you know what I mean. It's good, but it needed a little bit more. That's what I thought, you know. So I could drink one. Right, you know, on a hot day you could drink it, but I think that it was just kind of it had a little bit more and it would have been even better. Yes, yep, I agree. Our guest.

Speaker 3:

To me it was a better mix with the chocolate and the strawberries Okay, and I would not drink it as a beer like when it was hot out, okay, I would drink it as a dessert beer. Okay, it's because those flavors came out from the chocolate and strawberries.

Speaker 2:

All right, so what would you give it as a?

Speaker 3:

A 3.1. 3.1. I enjoyed it. 3.1. I enjoyed it. She is hammered girl. Wow, I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2:

She is hammered girl.

Speaker 3:

Wow, I would not drink it as a beer.

Speaker 2:

Mike.

Speaker 1:

I would drink it as a dessert beer. As a good beer as a dessert beer or a dessert beer.

Speaker 3:

Okay, she's hammered girl. That's hammered like a dance on the table.

Speaker 2:

All right, so we're done with our tenth. Here's our tenth and final beer here at the Goat, and this is Eastwood coming around. This is Clint oh, not Eastwood the Clint the Crusher. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You know, I think you know another Clint. Yep, I sure do so, do you? Do you call him the Crusher? No, no, that's the name of this beer. Is that the nickname you had? Nope, back across the river.

Speaker 1:

Maybe so you can ask your dad.

Speaker 2:

This is a smoked porter with dark cherry. 5.4% ABV, 30 IBUs. We got the Clint. Jim finally admits he's got the Clint that has a definite smoked flavor to it.

Speaker 2:

You're going to get that smoked, oh yeah. Oh, I don't. This is a smoked porter with dark cherry, but I don't taste the dark, the cherry at all. I get smoke, heavy smoke, heavy smoke flavor. Wow, a heavy smoke flavor, wow. And again, we've tried a lot of smoked beers, but every time it's like taking a bite of a burnt log. This has a very smoky flavor to it. This is smoky, very smoky. My mouth is drying out like I. It's smoky, it's smoky, it's smoky Boy. I don't know about that one. I don't taste any cherry at all. No, I don't get that at all, especially dark cherry. Yeah, when that's what it calls is a smoky porter with dark cherry, I'm expecting to get the dark cherry flavor. I mean, the color of the beer is a little bit red, right, but it is.

Speaker 2:

I don't get any cherry flavor whatsoever it is so. I just I get smokiness and that's it. It tastes like I reached into a fire and grabbed out a stick and stuck it in my mouth and you went. Oh, that's good, you know, I don't know. Yeah, I'm not a fan of that one.

Speaker 1:

You want to throw your score out right now, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to go a 2. Well, let's see, you got a 2, a 2.7. What was that one? Oh, that's on the run. I'm got a 2, a 2.7. What was that one? Oh, that's on Iran. I'm going to go like a 2.3.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's very it's smoky to me. I don't get any of the cherry flavor whatsoever, so I'm going to go, yeah, 2.3. So would you recommend this to the novice beer drinker? I don't think so, because it's a lot of novice if they have never tasted especially a smoky beer before. This is pretty smoky, yes, and I think a smoked flavor can turn people off real quick. So that's what I think. So I'm going to have to go lower than you, buddy. I got to go 1.9. I am not a big smoke guy. I can't. My mouth is still drying out.

Speaker 3:

It's very smoky I can't, I can't do it. The smoke completely overtook that beer. You smelt it, you tasted it you never tasted, taste it any more yeah no, no, I'm going to go lower than you. I'll $1.8. $1.8? Yeah, I think that's right.

Speaker 1:

So yeah.

Speaker 3:

I guess.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there we go All right. So we're at the goat brewing. Yep, we're at goat brewing. Overall, I mean it was a neat place. I mean I like the brewery they have. I give them credit, for they try all sorts of different things. Yep, and they got a lot of tabs, a lot of taps, a lot of different mixed drinks too. Yes, yeah, so you can get a mixed drink and food, so you got a lot.

Speaker 2:

You can come in here and they got the. There's a karaoke going, so I think it's worth the stop. Yeah, I mean some of the beers I think they have to do some tweaking on. Yeah, I mean some of the beers I think they have to do some tweaking on to get them good. But there was beers, I think, that are just not quite there, but they're very close to being there. Yes, and there's other ones that are kind of like need a little bit more work. Yes, but they're close. Yes, and, like I said, I've never been here before, so this is my 161st brewery I've been to. All right, yeah, they did a good job.

Speaker 2:

It's a nice place. It's almost like a bar atmosphere. Well, they're breaking into karaoke now, so we probably should cut them down. All right, yeah. So the Goat in Lee's Summit, missouri. It's a cool place. Yes, like I said, they have all sorts of different beers, different food, all that. It's really a cool environment. Yes, and I'm glad we came here and, like I said, some of the beers are extremely close to being super good. They're close, they're very close. So, yes, like I said, if you get a chance, stop here, stop here. Yes, I think you'll enjoy it. Same thing. Awesome. Let's get a beer and let's have some food. Yeah, we're going to get some food and some beer and, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening and, like we always say, I hope your campfire is always warm and your beers are always cold, see you?

Speaker 1:

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