Ep 166 - What Happens When You Taste Without Labels

A blueberry beer that tastes like raspberry. A lager brewed with jalapeno, habanero, and Carolina Reaper that somehow stays drinkable. And a homemade trophy that literally has a breathalyzer attached to it. Mike flies solo to recap our Memorial Day beer tasting up in the Northwoods, where seven of us put our palates to the test with a stricter blind beer taste test designed to keep the voting fair and the surprises intact.

We break down the full format: three seasonal tastings (Memorial Day, Fourth of July, Labor Day), three categories per event, and a points system that rewards consistent picks across rounds. This year’s lineup runs through “something from the garden,” “something you would find at a bake sale,” and wildcard, plus the behind-the-bar changes we made so nobody knows what’s coming until the category is complete. If you like craft beer, home tasting ideas, and honest notes on what flavors actually show up in the glass, this is a play-by-play you can steal for your own beer night.

Along the way, we hit highlights like Untitled Art’s Fruit Cup Cocktail, 3 Sheeps Pumpkin Veneration, Goose Island Bourbon County Brickyard Stout, KBS variants, Surly Barrel-Aged Darkness, and Prairie Artisan Ales Bomb, plus the weird reality that the same beer can present totally differently from one pour to the next. We also talk pacing with snack breaks, how category rules get stretched, and what we’ll tweak before the next showdown.

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Transcript

Solo Update And Memorial Day Plan

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Welcome to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast. Hey, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome back to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast. This is Mike, the Northwoods Bear Guy, and this week we have a little bit of a different episode. I am actually flying solo this week, and it's nothing to do with any of the team members, but my schedule is pretty busy here and not going to be able to really hook up with anybody to do a regular podcast. So what I thought was, what could I do to get some information out to you guys and let you know what we've been up to? And I thought, what better time than right after Memorial Day to kind of go over how the Memorial Day beer tasting went up at the up in the Northwoods here this past weekend. So

How The Northwoods Tasting Started

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as you know, we had talked about how we were going to handle it. You know, we were doing a blind taste test and things like that. So let me go a step back if you are new to the podcast and you don't know kind of the backstory of this. We have a camper in northern Wisconsin and we have a bar on the deck, and for a long time, for many years, a number of the guys that are up at the camper, we would get together and we would have beer tastings. And it started off pretty small, and then you know, the number of people that got uh got invited and such, there's probably six of us, seven of us roughly at times, and everybody would start bringing a few uh craft beers, and then eventually it became everyone would show up with like at least a 12-pack, and it took pretty much all day, and then we would all kind of get in trouble simply because a lot of the guys got a little tipsy and they had a ways to a little ways to walk to get back to their campers. So after that situation, it got to the point where I was talking to my wife, and I said, you know, I think we need to get this kind of under control a little bit. And she agreed, and I said, What do you think if of the idea of having three categories? We'll have you know two categories that the winner of each beer tasting, they can pick the two categories. The third category will be called wildcard, and that can be anything. Again, a step backwards, we do have three per season. We have a Memorial Day, a Fourth of July, and a Labor Day. So that's where, for instance, for the Memorial Day, the winner of the Labor Day tasting, they you have to pick the key the two categories for Memorial Day, and then Memorial Day picks for Fourth of July. Fourth of July winner picks for Labor Day. Now, how we come up with winners is, you know, like I said, we'll pick a category. So let's say an ale, and yeah, everybody has to bring a beer that's an ale. If it's a porter category, everybody has to bring a porter. Or for instance, this time the categories were something from the garden was the first category. So you had to bring a beer that had something that you could find in a garden, like let's say a fruit, a vegetable, an herb, a spice, something like that. It had to be in there. The second category was something that you would find at a bake sale. So it could be cookies, pastries, things like that. And then the third category is wildcard. So

Categories And Who Showed Up

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this year at the uh Memorial Day tasting, we actually had seven people that attended. And the podcast team was actually very well represented. Of course, I was there, Jim was there. If you remember, you remember Kirk from a couple seasons ago, he was on a podcast with us up in up in the Northwoods. And then we had Matt and Jay that they've been on a few podcasts with us recently as well. The other two gentlemen that were there were Tom, who is has a camper by us up there, and Andy, who also has been in a number of the competitions, and his parents have a camper in the same location that we do. Now, Tom has won the tasting in the past, Andy has won it, I've won it, Kirk has won it. So it's you know, it's usually pretty good representation and it's pretty tough competition. BK, he's been it and he's won it a number of times as well. Unfortunately, as you know, he bought the resort, so his time is kind of limited on what he can do for something like that. So he had to unofficially bow out, unofficial, quote unquote. He was just too busy on the holidays, you know, especially now, uh, because of the being a resort owner, so he was not in it this year. So anyway, so what I'd like to do is kind of just let you know the beers that we tried, kind of give you a heads up on hey, here's who, you know, had each beer and things like that. So hopefully if you're out there and you find some of these, you can give them a try.

Garden Category Rankings And Surprises

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So the first one we had was something out of the garden. And uh the first beer that we had, the beer that actually came in seventh, was uh the by Whole Hog, and it was their tart blueberry ale. And that one, it I was kind of crazy because when we tasted it, it almost had a raspberry flavor to it. So that kind of threw us off, especially when we saw that it was tart blueberry. It really was a surprise. And yeah, that was kind of something we weren't expecting. And Matt had brought that one. Then we had another whole hog, it was hazelnut brownie, and that one you did get kind of a hazelnut flavor to it, and it did have somewhat of a chocolate flavor, but it was kind of one of those that it was a little hard to distinguish, really, the flavor. There wasn't a huge amount there. And I don't know if it, you know, it could have been an older bottle. That I don't know. I don't think it was, but uh just that the flavor was a little bit different on the on actually both of those. And I think Jay uh Jay brought that one. We also had from Untitled Arts, and we've had a number of beers from them in the past. Tom had brought their fruit cup cocktail, and it was boy, it it tasted like the the juice you would get out of a fruit cup from you know wherever you want to buy it at whatever store. When they have those fruit cups, they have like that syrup in there. It kind of had that kind of a flavor to it. It was actually fairly decent, but you know, the competition was pretty pretty taut, you know. So, but that one was was was good. One that really surprised me, Kirk brought Brickfield Triple Threat Lager. And we've talked about it before not this beer specifically, but we've talked about pepper beers in the past and how I've had you know beers with a lot of different kinds of pepper in them. Well, this one, it was a triple, it had three different peppers in it. It had jalapeno, it had habanero, and Carolina Reaper. And that was really kind of surprising because I've never had a beer with Carolina Reaper in it before. You know, I've had with ghost peppers. This one actually, I liked it because of the pepper flavor. It did have a burn to it, but it was a lot more mild of a burn than what I was expecting, especially when we discovered that it had, you know, Carolina Reapers in it. That one it was kind of a toss-up on to some of the guys because you know, some of them really don't care for pepper, other ones, you know, the burn. And other ones, there's other ones of us that really kind of do like it. So it was an interesting tasting on that one. I thought it was really good. That one actually finished in fourth place. So then we had Three Sheeps Pumpkin Veneration, Barrel H Pumpkin Veneration. I brought that one. And again, you know, we've said that that one was in the past is probably the best uh pumpkin beer that we've ever had, is what Jim and I have said in the past. This one tasted a little bit different. I don't know if it's because I don't I honestly don't know. You know, because we got it from the Barrel Society. We picked those up in January, I believe it was. And uh so I don't know we'll have to wait and see how it tastes later on in the year, but it had just a little different flavor than what we were used to. So it kind of threw me for a loop on you know when we were trying to figure out what it was. Then we had Bourbon County Brickyard Stout. Jim had brought that one, and again, it's a solid Bourbon County, you know, it still does have that sweetness to it. Some people are a little torn on that from Goose Island because you know, a lot of people are saying, man, they're really kind of they're sweet because they're higher, you know, ABV, so they sweeten them up. It was still a solid beer, and that finished actually in the runner-up position for this category. And the first place Andy had brought KBS hazelnut fudge, and it actually could have worked for either category, you know, with the from the garden it had hazelnuts in it. Very solid beer, very good fudge flavor to it, and you got the hazelnut. It was really, really good.

New Blind Reveal Rules Explained

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Now, in the past, I should have said this first, in the past when we would do it, we didn't know which beer it was. My wife is the bartender, she'll pour you know our portion in in our all of our taster cups. We don't know what it is, and then we would do a score and then say if it's first, second, third, fourth, etc. This time, what we did was we didn't reveal the beer until after the very last one in this category. So that way we're trying to keep it to where people didn't know which beer we had had and which one was coming up, because in at times, you know, that could kind of sway your voting if you knew your beer still wasn't out there. So that's what we're trying to cut back on. So after the first category, like I said, Andy wanted, he was in first place, and when when since there were seven people at the tasting, when you get first place, you got seven points, second place got six, third got five, and etc. down to seventh place it got one point. So Andy was sitting first with seven, Jim had six, I had five, Kirk had four, Tom was at three, Jay two, and Matt one. So it was definitely surprising. Some of those beers, because like I said, the the pumpkin veneration really kind of threw us through a loop, especially Jim and I, because we've had it, you know, twice, and it's just been outstanding. And this one it was still good. I definitely got the pumpkin spice flavor, but it did have a little bit different flavor to it. So we'll see. We do have another can or two of it that we had picked up, so we'll see how it ages. Hopefully, it was just maybe that can. And what else was the trying to think of? Oh, and again, like I said, that triple threat lager with the peppers, that really was a surprise to me. And boy, if I couldn't find it, I may pick up some more of that because it really was good. Not over the top, hot, but it did have a heat to it. So that was really, really good. So

Snacks Break And Pacing The Day

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in between our tastings, once we get done with like the first round here, we always take a break. We have a table with a number of snacks, you know, people all the guys that are involved, they bring snacks. My wife makes snacks, so we have food in between. We'll take a little break and things like that, just to you know, so you're not rushing through and overindulging, so to speak, I guess you would say. So now the second round was the something from a bake sale. And

Bake Sale Round With Rule Stretching

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I will say there was a couple beers in here that we did have basically some valid concerns as far as how it was from a bake sale. And I guess basically we kind of let it slide, this one, but it was one of those that really technically it was gonna be hard to legitimately say it was from a bake sale. So, but again, like I said, it's all in fun anyway. It's for bragging rights. We have a homemade trophy that you have to add something to it if you win, and we have a plaque that we we put everywhere. If you win, you get your name on it. So, I mean, it's it's nothing crazy, you know, but anyway, so we just kind of let it slide. Now, the beers that we had for that one, we had a one that was a mad duck chocolate stout, and that one was was pretty decent. You did get you know somewhat of a chocolate flavor to it. I've had it once before, and it's pretty it seemed like it was a little bit more mellow this time than than what I was used to from the when I had it before. So that kind of made it harder to to try to figure out what it was. And that's one thing that I will say, when you go and a totally blind taste testing, and it it makes it a little more difficult, I think, to pick out all the flavors that you're supposed to find.

What True Blind Tasting Changes

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That was kind of surprising to me because like when Jim and I are doing the podcast, or any of the guys, you know, we're reading what's in it, you know what you're looking for, you know, and it definitely makes it easier, I think, to taste all of those. When you're going in completely blind, not knowing what it should taste like, what you should be looking for, it was really an interesting challenge, to be honest with you. And it'll be something that it'll be interesting as we move forward with this. So we had that one. We we had another individual brought the KBS hazelnut fudge and put it in this category, which I totally understand. With a bake sale, I can see how fudge would be in there. Now it was just wild because in the first category, the hazelnut fudge actually won the category, and in the bake sale, it finished sixth. And it was surprising how different those two beers tasted. They were the exact same brand, exact same everything, both KBS, hazelnut fudge, but the first one tasted had a very, very prominent you know, fudge flavor, and and hazelnut was stand outstanding and all that. And this one it was just seemed like it was way more muted. So it was really kind of interesting to see that those two were so drastically different. We were all shocked. I mean, we couldn't believe it. And in fact, when my wife brought the the bottles out and the cans out for this one, she said, You guys are gonna really be surprised at where these kind of fell into place, and she wasn't lying, it was really crazy. So we also had now this was one that we kind of weren't sure how it should have fit into a bake sale, it was founders breakfast out, and the gentleman that brought this, he he thought that it was breakfast instead of bake sale, apparently. We looked and I said, Well, there is vanilla in it, you know, and uh we we let it go. But yeah, it was definitely kind of stretching the the boundaries on that one. And we have had in the past where we've had to disqualify uh beers from a category because it wasn't what we called for. But this time, since we were testing out this new system and all of that, we just decided to let it go and and see what happened. We also had from Three Sheeps, we had the wolf. It was the wolf with it had a uh some kind of pepper in it. I can't pronounce it because it started with a G, but I can't pronounce the name of it because I don't think I've ever actually heard the legitimate way to say it. So that one, I mean, it's a very good beer, and again, it had peppers, so you know I liked that, but again, that was kind of one of those, how is that a bake sale? You know, and that was another one, the same kind of thing that we were like, I don't know how it works, but we let it go. We had KBS iced latte, and uh one of the gentlemen asked, Well, how is that in there? And I said, Well, I'm pretty sure you can find iced lattes at a bake sale a lot of times. So, so we did let that slide as well, and that was it was pretty good, had a pretty nice kind of a aroma and somewhat of a a coffee flavor, you know, like a iced latte would have. So it was it was pretty smooth and and it was a little bit surprising. It did it fit in pretty well. So again, another one that was kind of on the fence, but since we let the other two go, you know, that one was gonna fall there too. Then we had the another one of the wolf varieties, and this one was coconut. So that one, okay, you can buy coconut, things with coconut at a big sale. So, okay, you know, we let that slide as well. You know, again, trying out this new system, it was it was interesting. Like I said, definitely had a coconut kind of a flavor to it, really smooth. You could tell it was high ABV, but it didn't taste. That's the one thing with all of these, honestly. There was some that really had a strong aroma of booze to it, but then when you tasted it, it was really they were really smooth. So it really kind of surprised everybody just how smooth a lot of these were that you didn't get a burn, you didn't get a strong alcohol flavor in some of them. It was really kind of surprising. So that was kind of a nice thing to uh discover as well. And then the beer that finished in number one was by Southern Tier. It was the Caramel Cookie Bar. And that one, unbelievably, you tasted caramel, you had like that kind of a cookie flavor to it. Again, just an amazing, honestly fit this category perfectly. And luckily enough, I was the one that brought that that one. So I got kind of fortunate there, but it definitely had the the most similar flavor to something at a bake sale. And I was surprised, I was expecting to get, you know, we like Jim and I have had a couple cookie beers before, but they were around Christmas time. I they possibly didn't have me, wasn't able to find any of those, or ran out of them, so I can totally get it. But I was expecting to have more along those lines, maybe more of a pastry stouts, possibly, things like that, you know. But uh like I said, some of the the people I think they were a little confused on what we were calling for, or it was just the beers that they had. So I'm not sure. But anyway, so in that round, I I got first, and then it was Jim, Andy, Matt, Jay, Kirk, and Tom. That's the order that we finished in the second category. So

Scores Tighten Before The Wildcard

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after the first two categories, Andy and and myself were actually tied with 12 points. So it was gonna be, you know, another pretty, pretty tough battle, so to speak, going into the final round to just see who's gonna come out on top. And once again, we took a break, had some more snacks, chit-chatted, joked around, all that good stuff. And then we got ready for the wildcard.

Wildcard Stouts And Big Flavors

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Now, the wild card round, typically there are a lot higher ABVs, mostly stouts, and if I remember right, I believe there was six of the seven beers that were in this class were stouts. And Matt, as you guys know that have listened, he's not a huge barrel-aged fan. Well, he's a lot of different categories. He's not a huge fan, or he normally drinks Bush Light, you know, stuff like that. So some of them I think he was having a little hard time with, you know, but it was his first time there. Jim kind of convinced him to partake. And uh I give him credit, you know, he was definitely out of his comfort zone, but I think he did he did all right. So let's see. So the wildcard, here's the beers that we had. We had an Urban Growler Bach. And that was actually it was a good Bach beer, you know, and the way they they get placed in order when they come out, it's just kind of, you know, Susie just grabs one out of the cooler, and so there's no rhyme or reason to it. And like I said, if this was a Bach category, it it was a good Bach. But knowing it's wild card, it was gonna be a tough, a tough road a hoe, so to speak, you know, for this one, because there's we knew there was gonna be all all sorts of high octane beers and big flavors, and unfortunately Tom brought that and he did finish in seventh place. So we also had this one kind of surprised me. Uh, we had Central Waters Peruvian Morning. Jim brought that, it ended up in sixth place, and it it surprised me because we've had Peruvian Morning before, and it usually has a pretty strong coffee flavor, really a good beer. And this one, it just there wasn't a whole lot of flavor to it. It really kind of shocked us, to be honest with you. You could kind of taste the coffee, but it really wasn't as big of a flavor as what I remember. And that, like I said, I think it surprised a lot of people. We were just like, okay, you know, and like I said, again, it really is something to see how you're you're picking out flavors when you don't know what flavors are supposed to be there. And this one, like I said, it it hopefully it might have been just that can, but it like I said, it the the coffee flavor wasn't real big, so it was kind of surprising. We then had Lexington Brewing, which we've had a number of their beers, you know, they and they they're actually they have a distillery and a brewery, so they uh pretty much all their beers are in barrels that they used to distill things in. And this one was their bourbon barrel-aged mango wheat. That one was actually kind of surprising. You definitely got a mango, and I I was shocked a little bit. I didn't really pick up a lot of bourbon flavor in it, and honestly, the wheat flavor, I didn't pick much of that up, and I'm sure part of it's because it was barrel-aged, and probably from the the mango as well, because the mango was actually fairly strong, and I it kind of surprised me. So it was it was really good though, honestly. If you like mango, I definitely think you'd like it. The ABV, I don't remember right off the top of my head. I apologize. It it was probably if it wasn't double double figures, you know, 10% or more, it was probably right up there though, because most of their beers are fairly high in ABV. But again, the mango wheat was really good. I was impressed. We had Founders Porter, and that one, you know, is one of those classic, it's been around for a long time. Very decent beer. It kind of surprised us, you know, when when we were tasting it, it had little hints of coffee, maybe some chocolate. You know, we were able to kind of pick out a few different things that we felt like we were we were tasting. And it it was it was pretty decent. It did finish in fourth place. You know, it was definitely a solid beer, and for kind of your your go to standard porter, it's it's pretty decent. Founders does do a good job on pretty much all their beers, you know. And yeah, we were we were pretty happy with how that one went. The next beer, and I do apologize, I did not write down the name of the company that made it. It was Was called Yo Ho Ho Rum Barrel Aged Stout. And it was actually one that I had brought. I we picked it up when my wife and I, and BK and his wife, we were went to his house for his birthday, and we went around to here, there's probably four or five breweries around the Twin Cities area. And they had like two bottles of this. So BK bought one, I bought one, and I've had mine for a little while now. And so I decided, hey, I'm gonna bring that up. Really, you could tell when you tasted it that it was a different barrel, it wasn't a bourbon barrel, but I just couldn't put my finger on what it was, and that was the kind of a bummer for me because you know I am definitely a rum fan, but the rum flavor wasn't really that prominent. I do apologize, ladies and gentlemen. The road that's going back behind here is got some traffic going, so you you are probably picking some of that up, and I do apologize. But like I was saying, the the rum barrel, that rum flavor, I just wasn't picking it up. It was a solid beer. You know, I again it had really good flavor to it, but it wasn't really a rum flavor, and I think that did hurt it a little bit. But you know, again, when you don't know for sure what beer you're tasting, we're supposed to be looking for, you know, we really didn't know for sure which one it was. Again, I I did like it, but again, I I wish it had more rum flavor to it. So unfortunately, it for me it finished in third, second place. Kirk actually brought Surly Barrel H darkness from 2025. That one was really good. You could tell it was you know high ABV, but it didn't have a burn to it, and just a solid beer. And we've had a number of episodes we've done on Surly Darkness. If you remember right, earlier this year, Jim and I did one, and we actually had the Barrel H darkness, I believe from 2022, I believe, 2021 or 2022, and we nominated it for a beer of the year category because it was just so good and it aged, you know, for that that long. And this one was a solid beer as well. They're always doing good stuff. So it's it was really nice to see that somebody had brought one of those to let us partake in. And in first place for the wild card was the Prairie Artisan Ales Bum. We've had that before. I think we've had it in the podcast as well, possibly. I'd have to look back. Prairie Artisan Ales, they do a lot of it's kind of crazy because they do a lot of high ABV, you know, stouts, they have sours, they've got all sorts of different styles, and they seem to do really well in all of them. And I know Jim has brought it up in the podcast before that Prairie Artisan Ales, the bomb, they also had at one point a four-pack where it was the bomb deconstructed. So you had one bottle of the bomb, and then there was three different ingredients that are used in there. And I do apologize, I don't remember what all of them are right off the top of my head, but they had the base model or the you know, the base beer with one of each of those in it separately, and then they had them all together in the bomb. It was really a neat thing to see how they they all worked together, you know, to try and separate and then have it all together. Yeah, so they they did well, and Andy brought that one. So, you know, in that category, Andy took first, Kirk took second, I took third, Jay took fourth, Matt fifth, Jim sixth, and Tom was seventh. So when it came down to we we add all those scores up and then we announce the winners. We

Final Standings And Trophy Traditions

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start from seventh place and go up. So in seventh place, Tom had five points. Matt, for his first time there, yeah, did did fairly well. He had was in sixth with eight. Jay was in fifth with nine points. Then we had Kirk was in fourth with twelve, and Jim was third with fourteen. I ended up second with seventeen, and Andy was first with nineteen, and that was his third time that he's won the uh competition. So good for you, man. He now gets to pick the two categories for fourth of July, and he has to add something once again to the trophy. And it's kind of funny because the first time he won, I believe it was the first time he won, he added a breathalyzer. So it was hilarious. You know, we have added stuff on there that it's just kind of crazy. Everybody gets a good a good joke out of it, and like I said, it's for epic bragging rights kind of thing, and then you have the trophy until the next tasting. So overall, you know, it went really well. I think

Tweaks For Fairness Next Time

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one thing, you know, we're we're trying to figure out what things need to be tweaked and such. I do think I do I need to do a little more tweaking behind the bar, so when people are sitting around the bar, they can't see what Susie's pouring, you know, because again, not that anybody did, but I just think it'll make it a little more, you know, so there's no question. And then the other thing is just make sure everybody knows for sure what the categories are, which you know, I I posted in a little chat group that we have and such. So I just think a couple of the guys misread it uh for the bake sale. But overall, I think we're gonna continue to do it that way. You know, it's one of those things where it's just kind of tough to figure out what's the best way to do a tasting like this and to have it be fair. Like I said, this was the first time that we did it this way where we didn't, you know, know what the the previous beers were, you know. Before, like I said, we would have we tasted it, we'd give it out of five stars, just like we do on the podcast, and then if there's three out there, you say is it first, second, third, or fourth, you know, and you look and see, okay, here's the four beers that we had, and then you'd you'd place it. But you know, that can lead to people placing their beers because they know it's theirs, things like that, you know. So it we're just trying to make it more fair. And this time what we did is we just went off of stars, came up with here was the average, and then we placed it after that based purely on average. I think you know, we keep getting more used to the system, tweaking a few things here and there. I think it'll even be more it'll be more fun, and it'll be interesting to see because it was like like Susie said, that we were shocked on how some of them placed. I do think that that's kind of more along the lines of what we're looking for, instead of you know, trying to place them uh compared to these other beers that you already know what they are. Again, we're just it's all in fun, but we're just trying to make it a little more interesting and keep people, you know what I'm saying, and keep them a little more intrigued until the end. So we've got a little time here. Andy

Category Ideas And How To Reach Us

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will let me know what his two categories are, and then of course, wildcard, and we will make those announcements in plenty of time. So then our our group will be able to do their their shopping to bring the best beers they can find, and we'll see who wins then. So, anyway, ladies and gentlemen, if if you ever have any questions on that stuff, make sure you let us know. You know, we'd we'd be glad to answer any questions, give you more information on how we started, you know, doing these things, how we're you know, things we've tweaked and what we've learned on some of these things. So it's like I said, it's always in fun. It's it's always just a great time with good friends to you know try all these different beers, you know, some of them we never would have tried before, you know, and and it's just really a neat thing. So if you got questions on that, if you've got questions on the show, anything like that, by all means make sure you let me know. And next week we will be back with more of a more traditional episode. But it, you know, I'd like to thank you for sitting here with me for this little bit of time and kind of going over here's all the beers we tried. You know, if there's beers that you would love to hear or you know, have us bring to a tasting or categories, if you can if you have ideas on categories, you know, let me know. Email us, you know, message us through all our social medias and let us know if there's a category you think would be fun to have at a beer tasting. So anyway, ladies and gentlemen, thanks for listening. And like we always say, we hope your campfire is always warm and your beer's always cold. See ya. Thank you for listening to the Northwoods Beer Guy Podcast. If you have a question, a comment, or a beer you'd like us to review, please feel free to send us a message at Northwoodsbeerguy at gmail.com. You can also find us on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram. If you're on Untapped, look up Northwoods Beer Guy and send a friend request. Until next week, we hope all your campfires are warm and all your beers cold.