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The Connection Between Gut Health and Mantal Health

• Dr. Roldan • Season 3 • Episode 10

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In this episode, Dr. Roldan interviews Kelly Bluth, a multi-passionate woman who is a teacher, certified holistic nutritionist, and copywriter. They discuss the importance of gut health and its connection to mental health, as well as the transition into perimenopause and the need for support and education during this phase. They also explore the benefits of breath work and movement for mental health and provide advice for starting a healing journey.
Takeaways

  • Gut health is closely connected to mental health, and taking care of the gut can have a positive impact on overall well-being.
  • Perimenopause is a phase that many women go through and it is important to have the tools and knowledge to support oneself during this time.
  • Breath work and movement, such as walking or dancing, can be beneficial for mental health and provide a sense of presence and calm.
  • Starting a healing journey requires curiosity, experimentation, and finding a supportive community.
  • It is important to prioritize self-care and seek help from professionals, such as therapists, when needed.

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Speaker 1:

Hello beautiful souls and welcome to Oroasis Community Podcast. I am Dr Roldan, your host. I am a doctor in clinical psychology, a BIPOC therapist professor and a mindful somatic coach. While I am a therapist, remember I'm not your therapist. This podcast is not a substitute for professional mental health care, but we have resources in our website and Instagram to support you in that search. Join us for a cozy, felt conversation about mental health, personal growth and mindfulness. We explore tools to care for your mind, your body and your soul.

Speaker 1:

Check the footnotes for disclaimer, trigger warnings and additional resources for each one of the episodes. So grab your favorite cup of tea, coffee or hot chocolate, wrap yourself in a warm blanket and find a coffee spot here with us to be kind to be brave, loud and strong in your search of mental health wellness. Welcome to your Oasis. Hello everybody, and welcome to our Oasis podcast. This is your host, dr Roldan, and I have a guest that is amazing. So get your cup of tea, coffee or a warm beverage that's going to warm your heart, your soul, and sit here with us, because we are going to have, technically speaking, crisscross applesauce, because we have the amazing Miss Kelly. Hi Kelly, thank you so much for coming today.

Speaker 2:

Well, thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited to be here.

Speaker 1:

So, Kelly, why don't you tell our audience who you are, what do you do and what multi-passions do you?

Speaker 2:

have. Yeah, I am a multi-passionate woman. I am Kelly Bluth. I live here in the Central Ohio area in the Midwest. Currently I'm a full-time educator. I've been teaching for 11 years and I've been teaching first, second and third grade in the elementary space. But, as you mentioned, I am a multi-passionate woman. So when I'm not educating in the classroom, I love to educate through my podcast. I have a podcast called Listening to your Gut where we focus on both the literal and figurative meaning of that phrase.

Speaker 2:

I also am a certified holistic nutritionist. Up until recently, I was really focused on gut health because I worked on my own gut health and healing that for quite some time and supported women in doing that. But now I'm actually moving into more of the feminine wellness in terms of helping women to understand more of perimenopause that next phase that many of us go through that will ultimately lead us to menopause. And another passion of mine is writing. So I am a copywriter. I write for several health and wellness brands. I write for myself and then I also am in the process of writing a couple different books. So, yeah, you nailed it Very multi-passionate and doing lots of stuff to support and educate other individuals in this world.

Speaker 1:

Well, you go in multi-passionate, I say you just love women and their health, right? Because if you, if you're a teacher, you're taking care of our little ones. Right, if you are a writer, you're telling the stories for our ancestors to the next generation. So stay in school, kids, and please read a book from time to time. It's always helpful if you cannot read it, because you know we have neurodiversity and there are spicy people. So, like myself, I do audiobooks and I read it too. So that way it's like two by two.

Speaker 1:

But you mentioned something about the gut health and, as we have talked with other episodes, the gut is super important for our mental health. Why? Because it's connected directly. It's like the second brain of our brain. I always make the joke that is the dumpster that nobody labels correctly, because you know when you go to throw the trash you're like recycling glass in general, right, and we just throw everything everywhere.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes we don't take the time to read it, and one thing that I love about Kelly is that she is such a light. When you meet her she just lights your day, but also comes with a lot, a lot of knowledge, and do you know the amount of time and the amount of intelligence and the amount of grit that you need to have to write a book and she just glanced by. I've written a couple, so I just want to give you props for that, because it's a book. Right Now let's focus in menopause Women. We are very dismissed when we go to the doctor to say we have all these symptoms, or saying we have all these alignments. Sometimes it's just your hormones. You will get over it. Can you tell me more about that and how did you get into it?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, how I got into wanting to talk and speak and educate more. Yes, yeah, yeah, talk and speak and educate more on, yeah, yeah. So well, like I said, um, you know, I, for the longest time, was focusing on healing my gut and um have done that, and you know it's, it's healing your gut. Is not something that, um, when I say that I'd done that, I don't mean that, like, I'm never going to have any other issues ever again. That's, that's not realistic, that's not reality, right, we? We live in a society where you know you might eat something and it causes an issue and you got to deal with that, right? So, um, I had multiple um you know gut infections, um going on inside my body and so I've healed since, healed those and um now know how to support my body so that hopefully, I don't encounter those in the future. Um, but because because of that, um, you know, I feel like I've kind of moved on to this next part of my life where I want to learn more about something, and because I've learned so much about the gut and I know a lot about it and I've supported women through that, I feel like I can still bring that into my practice and I definitely will.

Speaker 2:

But I, you know, I'm 33 and while you might be listening to this thinking like whoa, then why are you, you know, wanting to learn about perimenopause?

Speaker 2:

Well, perimenopause can start as early as 35.

Speaker 2:

So I'm only two years away from that and it's one of those things where, whether it starts when I'm 35 or it doesn't, I want to have the tools and the knowledge and the understanding to equip my body and to equip my mind with what I need to do to support myself in the longterm, because perimenopause can go on for 10 to 12 years.

Speaker 2:

So I want to be able to know what I need to do and, like I said, to support myself, so that, when I finally get to menopause, I'm not having these horrific hot flashes and night sweats and these mood swings. Might they still come, yeah, but they're not gonna be as bad potentially, or maybe I can't avoid them if I right now, right here, do things to support my body, so that I know what's coming, you know, and I know how to support those things in a natural way. So, yeah, it's one of those next phases in my life and, just like with gut health, I wanted to heal my gut and then I thought well gosh, why wouldn't I help other women do the same? That's you know, kind of where I'm at here, too, is I want to learn about perimenopause to support myself and then, of course, help other women through it too.

Speaker 1:

And, if you are hearing this, there is also younger people that enter menopause, either because they have some type of cancer, they have hormone treatment, or they have the endometriosis, they have polycystic syndrome. So all those things, you get them when you're young, when you start having periods, and then we don't get the education about one, how to prevent or how to enforce our hormones, because everything is controlled by our hormones. And what do I mean? Depending on what we eat, we can affect our hormones even more or less, depending on what kind of products do we consume. Which brings me to the second thing.

Speaker 1:

Kelly is a teacher, elementary school teacher, and what I love about her is in all her discoveries. It's not just like one day she wake up saying, oh, I'm going to be a gut health coach or I'm going to be a woman's coach. No, she actually educated herself before even saying anything. And then they say, okay, come with me, people, let's discover this together. Let's try option A, option B of vitamins for the gut or antibiotics and what kind of milks, et cetera. And it was so interesting seeing her doing this because me personally, I was like I prefer you try the probiotic and let me know if it tastes good if it doesn't.

Speaker 1:

For example, I take this green juice in the mornings and for the longest time I felt I was licking grass all the time. And then Kelly one day said, oh, I have tried this one and this one tastes like mint and apples. And I'm like, no, it doesn't. And then I try it, and it was. And since then I continue using that one. But, kelly, can you tell us why the gut? I know you say that you battle a lot of infections and stuff, but when it click that there's something going on that I need to change either the way that I eat, the way that I exercise, what do you change in order to heal your gut?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so mine which I again, I feel like a lot of us will resonate with this my root cause of everything that was going on in my gut and again points out to what you shared earlier, was this and I'm pointing to my brain. So I did so many cleanses, so many different diets right Like the AIP diet, which is like a paleo diet, because I do have two autoimmune conditions, so I know you and I can connect on two but ultimately everything for me came back to, after all the testing, all the naturopaths, the conventional doctors that I went to, it ultimately came back to my nervous system, to my gut, brain connection, and so you know. That being said, that was a wake-up call for me because for the longest time I was whittling down foods. It was like, okay, now I can only eat this and this, and I would go through my days being like, really, I'm going to have shredded carrots and cabbage and that's all I can eat and that's not a way to live. And now I'm to the point where I can eat almost anything. Does my body thank me more when I am dairy and gluten-free? Yeah, because my autoimmune conditions flare up because of those things. So I know that, but I don't deprive myself of anything, because I know that if I'm focused on supporting my mental health, then my body is going to be able to more effectively process whatever I put into my body. So, living a life more intentionally when it comes to, you know, breath work and making sure that I'm getting adequate amounts of sleep, making sure that I have ways to de-stress so, whether that is breathing and breath work or, for me, I like to move my body.

Speaker 2:

I've always been a fan of movement. There's lots of different things that you can do and I'm not here to tell you do what I'm doing and that'll work, because that's not the reality. Every person, every body, is different, because that's not the reality. Every person, every body, is different. What I can say is knowing myself and knowing the feminine body. If you can start to learn more about the phases of your cycle because, again, as a menstruating woman, I'm still working my way through the phases of the cycle every month I know that when I choose to select options that coincide with that phase of my cycle, I'm much better off, and by that I mean my digestion is better, my mental clarity is better, my energy is better, and then, when I get to that bleed phase. When I shed the uterine lining at the start of my menstrual cycle, because menstruation is phase one of the cycle I'm much better off, like I have less cramping. I have just less symptoms adverse symptoms because I've treated my body in such a way that supports my body feeling really good, right.

Speaker 1:

And I love how you say and for everybody out there listening, don't worry, there is a trigger warning before we're going to talk about periods, which is funny, though, that we have to do that Right, because that is a natural element of our body, right, but I don't hear people talking about it. It's not like something that people will say, oh, humans trade today and people share it Right, for multiple reasons. So, right there, we already have a taboo, almost like talking about mental health. Thank goodness, after the pandemic, we talk more about mental health. And how is health right? The way that we treat physically, we have to treat it mentally. But what kind of things do you do first to help you with your mental health? Do you went to therapy? Do you went with a coach? Do you went to, like you mentioned, breath work? What worked, what didn't work?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so as early as I think it was 13, I started dealing with mental health issues and my parents, you know fortunate enough that my parents were able to provide me access to a therapist, so I did go to therapy early on at the age of 13. It didn't last long because I just wasn't comfortable at that age doing that and and that's not to say you shouldn't do that that early had I expressed interest in continuing therapy and maybe finding someone else that was better suited for me probably would have been great, right, but at the time I was just I didn't know, I was 13. I'm not very educated in that realm and so I stopped going. But then I picked that back up. I picked therapy back up and, you know, explored as an adult much later in life Well, much later, being probably right around 20, 22, 23, picked it back up again and yeah, I've.

Speaker 2:

I mean I, I use therapy as a way to provide an outlet for what I'm feeling and to have support, right. I know many people talk about therapy in terms of it. You know, can bring you back right, it can bring you back to things, and a lot of times we want to move forward. So there's no right or wrong there. You know, sometimes you need to process things that are in our past. So, yeah, I do do therapy, but I also like to say that I do my own mental therapy in terms of, like I said, breath work, but also, I think, you know, being able to move my body is also therapy. Right, it's that somatic therapy when you're moving your body, but your mind is also processing things too. I think for me, the biggest support in my life has been more of that somatic work.

Speaker 1:

And I'm glad you say that because it is true for all parents out there. You're thinking, oh, it didn't work for her going to therapy. No, it's not that, it's also back in the day. We have different types of therapy. Like, for example, I used to do uh well, I still do teens therapy, but we do something called kick therapy. So we use video games, we use, uh, movies, mangas, etc. Things that are more into it so they get by into it more, right. And I even use it with adults with active duty and university, which university is almost like going back to kindergarten.

Speaker 1:

You have different everything, right, but I always said you need your dream team, right? Like all the superstars, all the people that you admire, all the amazing women and men that are out there, they have a dream team. What do I mean with that? They have a therapist, they have some type of coach, they have some type of nutritionist and they have somebody that works in their body, right, aka going to the gym, aka dancing, et cetera. For all people. That is, after the pandemic, something very well, a lot of tragic things happened, but one of those it was like with people with immune propense to being, with immune illnesses, one that is very unknown but very known is post-arthritic tracheocardial pox, which is what I developed after having such a long COVID, and one of the main things that you need to take care of is movement and your gut and other stuff. But why do I say this? Because when we say we go through therapy, we don't go through therapy necessarily when something horrible and traumatic happened in our lives. Sometimes we need somebody that, yes, we need to dig a little deeper, not of what happened to you, but also what you didn't got, or the circumstances that you, as an adult, not realize. Wait, I was in low economic status, or I was discriminated, or I was X, y and Z, which, when we're little, we don't realize until we're older, and that affects your gut and your hormones. Because, again, this little one over here I always call it the three brains, because you have, like, the mammalian brain is the movement brain, right? That's why you want to go punch something, you want to run away. The fly will fight. So Kelly does this thing.

Speaker 1:

If you haven't seen her, I invite you to go to her Instagram and go see her Every other Monday or every other day. I see her, like today, we're going to do movement and I know you do it daily, but I go every other day to check it because she does it very early. And I know you do it daily, but I go every other day to check it because she does it very early. She dedicates movement to somebody because sometimes, like me, there was a time after COVID and after other chronic illnesses that I couldn't move right, I was bedridden. So because I couldn't move, seeing Kelly was like I'm moving with Kelly. Why? Because we have something called mirror neurons. So the mirror neurons are like the name says I mirror what I see. So if I ever have danced, my mirror neurons are going to remember how to dance and I will have the same endorphins, the same serotonin and the same happy feelings seeing somebody dancing versus just nothing right. So if you can move, please see Kelly. If you cannot move, please go see Kelly when she is dedicating movement for you.

Speaker 1:

But tell me about your experience about breath work, because people always look at me and say, oh, how can you be a therapist and be way woohoo about the things? Because, like my background says, your body is body, mind and soul, meaning you have to take care of the mind, you have to take care of your feels and you have to take care of your body by movement and as a dancer, I'm a little biased too, because I believe movement is so great. But tell us about your story about breath work or movement or somatic work, how that has helped you other than therapy, because therapy, if you don't have one, please, my friends, go find one. We will have different providers and different resources and we are going to put one specific for Ohio, since we have people from Ohio. Ohio, since we have people from Ohio, and I know one of the most detrimental things to be in the middle of anything is that resources don't get so much.

Speaker 1:

So I know it's hard for anybody that is hearing, that is in the Midwest. I know it's hard to find a provider, I know sometimes it's not accessible. But please, please, please, go get some therapy, just to you know, to try and see how it works and if you like it, then we can move to stage two, that is, let's try about our body, let's try a coach, let's try breath work. So tell us how do you went from. Okay, I tried this therapy work for a little bit because I was too tiny. And now, where do you get breath work? What else do you do about somatic work?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, I want to first start off with, in terms of breath work, like why it's so important to me, which is because when I was young and I've known this all my life but like I didn't, it didn't really click, Like I didn't really process how impactful it was in my body until the last couple of years when I got into really the health and wellness space. But when I was young I don't ask me why I just oftentimes would like hold my breath or I would. I was very self-conscious about my body as a young kid, so I would at the store when I would see people and I would like I idolize their figure, I would suck my stomach in and so, like I didn't, I did not have a good rhythm or a natural breath, and so for the longest time it was really hard for me to like breathe, like when people say, like take a deep breath, I was like what is that Like, what does that look like? Because I, I was like what is that Like, what does that look like? Because I, my body just didn't know how that felt. So that's context wise. That's why it's so important to me is because I know that when I'm not breathing fully and effectively. I'm not getting full oxygen into my brain, into my body, right, and my body needs that in order to function and to do what it needs to do for me to live a quality and happy life, happy, healthy life. So, yeah, I mean I got back into breath work shortly after I got into therapy, because that was one of you know, the things that we would discuss is like well, you know, are you getting out and taking a walk? And you know she was telling me this is still the therapist that I still have.

Speaker 2:

I found an incredible one, but it did take me some time to find that individual and she was like you know, I want you to go out and take a walk and when you're walking, I want you to be conscious of your breath and I want you to feel your breath come in and out. And she's like I don't want you to think of anything about the day. She said I just want you to notice what you see. Are there birds in the trees? Is the wind blowing? Are the leaves moving? Can you see the clouds moving? Can you feel the air on your skin?

Speaker 2:

And I'll be honest at first, when she shared that with me, I'm like I'm not doing that. I've got X, y and Z things to do. I'm a to-do list girl over here, so I got things to do. When am I going to fit that into my schedule? And I would keep coming back and back and back to her and she's like have you done it? Nope, have you done it, nope. And finally she was like you know you, just you got to do it. I can't tell you why, other than you'll see why once you do it.

Speaker 2:

And I did and I'm not religious at it, like I'm not doing it every day currently, but I make it a point to do it two to three times a week. And now I incorporate my husband and my dogs with me too, so it's even better. But you know, you can totally do it on your own. And it just allows me to be present, right, because so often we are not present in our bodies but in life. You know, because, again, like I said, we're oh, I got this thing to do, and then I got to go here and here and boom, boom, boom all over the place, right? We, we idolize busy lives for the longest time. I did, too. I was like, in order to be successful, or to be, like you know, have done all the things. There's go some balloons. I have to, I have to do all these things Right, but you don't, you don't. You can do a couple of things in a day and still be wildly successful and feel really good about what you're doing in the world. So you know, you got to retrain your brain in that respect.

Speaker 2:

But to your point about breath work yeah, that, I now make that a part of my daily being. You know, when I'm stressed at school, I stop and I make sure that I'm tuning into my breath because, again, oftentimes when I'm stressed at work, I'll stop breathing, not, like you know, to the point where I can't breathe right, but like my breath will start to become shallow, I'll just hold it in, and that's not good, because then we have all of these pent up emotions inside and our body needs to be able to release what's inside. So when we can have a calm breath, but a deep breath that allows us, you will be amazed what that allows you to do in terms of your mental clarity, but also how you can move forward in your day. You will be amazed what that allows you to do in terms of your mental clarity, but also how you can move forward in your day. You may have started off in a really stressful state. By just implementing that deep breath, you can start to relieve some of that stress.

Speaker 1:

Yes, and I love what you say. So I I have a certification or a second degree in mindfulness breath for stress relief. And I was very lucky that since I was a child, I went to a Montessori school. So when you were saying, oh, I went to teacher and stuff, and depending on the different teaching styles in the Montessori school, one of the things that I learned it was breathing. Like you know, when you were stressed and I was like, always bring to your diaphragm or your belly, I always laugh because I always say I look very poofy because I was very, very, very tiny and skinny, but I always look poofy because in my head backwards of you, it was like, no, you have to expand your belly when you're stressed. So it pretty much stressed me horribly taking pictures. So I was always like expanded. Well, years later, and you know one of the things that saved me because COVID and all that it was that because I have a collapsed lung, like only half of the lung or something like that, so because I have trained my body to breathe so deeply that that is basically one of the things that saves me. And then also for people, I want you to know that, like therapy, breath work or any kind of human relationship. You have to try different people because it has to be about a human relationship. What do I mean?

Speaker 1:

When I started this journey of meeting these amazing women, of coaches, or breath work, and right now I'm like, I do yoga, I do these things and I'm like, and I'm a dancer, so breath is movement, right, and but I had never tried it in a therapeutic that way. So after I finished my mindfulness, somebody told me oh, you should try breath work, blah, blah, blah. I went the first time and I almost had an asthma attack because I suffer from an asthma. So I was like this is not for me and I was hating everything. And then I met another one. They said, no, just try it again with this other person. It was a little different it this other person. It was a little different. It was in nature, it was a little more freedom and stuff and it has movement on it. But that was such a release. And then me, being the scientist I am, I went digging down in the rabbit hole about breath, and breath is life. Breath also can release stress. It can also give you an euphoric state because guess what, when you laugh, you're breathing so freely. When you have that belly laugh, it's a way of breathing.

Speaker 1:

So I will say, if you guys want to try breath work, there is always different techniques, there is different places but always do your research first. Always read if it's appropriate for whatever condition you're having. But breathing diaphragmally is what babies do. It's what we, we were born to do. It's just society dresses, you name it. It taught us like no, you have to stay straight.

Speaker 1:

And the other part I love is like, uh, I work with active duty right in law enforcement. So telling them like, oh, go, do a walk. And they look at me like what's wrong with you, right? So I never do that with them because I already know that they're gonna say, yeah, I will do, I will do it. And they don't do it.

Speaker 1:

And this is not sponsored for anybody in the sense that, like I just truly believe as a therapist, these two apps are amazing for people. That is Headspace In there. They have all the teachings that I learned in school and I went a year and stuff in there. And the other one is Calm. And they have another one that is breath with me, that they literally teach you little images and how to breathe, and this one's. What I do is like I literally put meditations with my patients. I stress them a little and then I put the meditation and then I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm so calm now. Or I play VR games with them that are stressful and I teach them how to breathe through those stressful moments. And you know, breath can heal because it gives so much oxygen to every cell of your body.

Speaker 1:

So what you will say to somebody that is like that is too woohoo for me. What you will say to them, where do you think somebody can start, if they want, in a healing journey from your mind to your body, to your soul? And I love how you say everything starts here. If this one is not OK, they all go down Right, and in this hustle culture it doesn't work, because the best wealth that we can have is time and presence, because the best wealth that we can have is time and presence. So where you, let's say, you have some like my patients, right, like my clients, none of that work. You know what it works work really hard, not sleep, drink a lot of caffeine or drink a lot of whatever, right To keep me going, going, going, going what you would recommend to start with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know, I love this question because, again, it's like it brings us back to there is no one size fits all, right, like, what I am going to say is not hopefully not what you think I'm going to say, which is like a prescription of do this, do this, do this right. It's truly to each and every person, their own individual, like, what they should do, what what you should prescribe for yourself. So what I encourage you to do if you're like, yeah, no, I don't want to take the walks and do deep breathing, then don't right. I mean, maybe someday along the path of your healing journey you will. But I would truly encourage you to start doing a little research, and that doesn't have to mean books. We are so blessed with podcasts, with, like you said, audio books I love audio books too we're so blessed with so many different people hosting masterclasses, so many YouTube videos I mean, you name it. There's so many ways you can get your hands on, or your eyeballs on, information and hear things too, so, through your ears that pick up what resonates with you and leave what doesn't right Because you're not going to do gosh, I'm hearing this box breathing and I want to try it then do it Right. And if you do it and you decide afterwards you're like that's not actually what I thought it was going to be, then, okay, maybe you don't.

Speaker 2:

I would give yourself some time. I wouldn't say one and done, I'd one day and move on. Give yourself, you know, a couple of weeks to try it. And I would say my advice would be to experiment, which is, again, probably not what most of you were thinking. I was going to say Experiment with different people in terms of who you listen to and pick up different things from different people and try those things and through that you're going to develop your own bag of tricks, or your toolbox, so to speak, and those things will be the things that you start to come back to over and over again to support yourself in your healing.

Speaker 2:

That's what I've done. There wasn't any one person that was like I'm following him or I'm following her and I'm doing everything he says or everything she says. I've picked bits and pieces from different people, from different books and different recommended resources and I've developed my own toolbox. So I would encourage anyone out there who's like, oh my gosh, I don't know what to do. Yeah, it's daunting, right, but just baby step it. That's what I always do. I baby step the process, because we're not going to go from zero to hero overnight. It takes time, healing takes time, and I know we don't want to hear that, but that's the truth. If you want to have long-term health and happiness, we have to take those baby steps, and so one of the best things you could do is start to educate yourself, and this podcast is a great way to do it. Educate yourself, and through that, you're going to find tools and strategies that are going to support you.

Speaker 1:

Thank you for that. I always say start by being curious, because if you are curious, then you do the research, then you start doing all the other things. After being curious, go try it. Right, with mindfulness that sometimes we do try things that are also detrimental for our bodies. But you know, you try it and now you know too, right? So be curious, try it and, the most important thing, find a community, because in the community you find different perspectives. By finding different perspectives you're like oh, that worked for you, that worked for you, that worked for you. But always become curious. That includes you in yourself. Become curious, like why do I still fight to go to sleep and stay until three in the morning, scrolling doom, scrolling right? Or why do I always end in row rate? Become curious. Why do you do the things that you do? Because sometimes we just have the blueprint of our parents and our parents have the blueprint of our grandparents and so on, right? So sometimes we are the ones that, like, you know what? I'm gonna go solar, I'm not gonna use fire anymore, right, but it took becoming curious and try the changes, but it became within words.

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So if you know somebody that is struggling right now with their mental health or any kind of health. Please go to the resources that we have. They're free and I know the best step for everything is asking for help or asking for curiosity. Believe me, the people that care, they don't care that you ask them, you can ask me, you can ask Kelly that we will like. If we don't know, we will find you somebody that knows. So that's when you know you're building your dream team from go to zero to hero and you have to be the hero of you first. That is, for all the mamas out there, for all the fathers, for all the caregivers. You need to take care of you first. If you don't take care of you first, it doesn't matter how much you sacrifice for the other person, you will pass the bill. Any other thoughts before we go?

Speaker 2:

Kelly. No, I was just going to say, you know, thank you for sharing that. You know, in terms of, if you can't find the resources yourself to reach out to someone because I think you and I are natural intrinsic learners, like we thrive off of that, right. But for those of us who are listening in that maybe aren't natural people of curiosity, right, like you said, reach out to one of us or two, you know. If you're not comfortable doing that, reach out to a friend that you know is a natural um, someone with natural curiosity, because I know that everybody wants to help each other and so when you reach out to someone who does have that knowledge, or maybe doesn't have the knowledge, but they can find the resources, they'll bring it back to you and that will start that journey that you can then go on Right and I want everybody to go out and just go try something new.

Speaker 1:

Like I said, I tried breathwork and that's what it worked for me. Right, I try? Um, what was it? Oh, I try. They call it hot stones, massages and stuff like that. That did not work for me, not because it was a bad thing, it's just my body didn't like it right for x, y reason. But everybody sores over it, right and um. The same with acupuncture. I used to love acupuncture, but then, after my immune, my body was like you know? No, thank you. So always remember, just because something worked in the past doesn't mean it always will work. So don't get frustrated with yourself. Just become curious.

Speaker 1:

And if you need the assistance of a therapist to like I need to explore more this, whatever this means, please go find one. And it takes around three to four times. It is really difficult. I understand, but, believe me, when you find it, that person, that is like a guiding for a chapter also. It doesn't, it's not meant to be forever and ever and ever the same with somebody that if you're interested in I don't know CrossFit Back in the day, I tried that one too, but I love the people there. They're amazing people and kudos to whoever does CrossFit. Right, I do dancing. Not everybody likes dancing. So go find something that moves you, something that inspires you and something to feed your soul, your body and mind.

Speaker 2:

Love that.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, kelly, where we can find you, where people can go and love you and find you and request the dancing.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yes, well, I love that you mentioned the dancing, because I have taken a hiatus from that for quite some time, but now that I'm in spring break I am going to bring it back. So come on over, because the school year is almost done and I'm getting back into my spring mode of like bringing that out and dedicating those dances. So, yes, come on over and see me on and start following me. I'll connect with you there. I'll follow you back on Instagram. I am at Kelly K-E-L-L-Y underscore Bluth B as in boy L-U-T-H. I'm also on TikTok. I have a Facebook community on Facebook for my podcast. Come check out the podcast. Wherever you listen to podcasts, it's available. It's called Listening to your Gut. Yeah, those are some of the many ways that you can connect with me and just shoot me a message and I'd love to start a conversation with you and build a friendship.

Speaker 1:

Thank you so much, kelly. And, like you guys heard, she is offering a friendship and when she mean it, she mean it Because that's why we become best friends too, because she means it. So, when people told you, believe them and reach out. So thank you, kelly. I much appreciate you. Please don't forget to subscribe, to put the like button, to get your cup of tea for our next episode.

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Until next time to reflect, be proud of the journey, for every step that brings you closer to who you truly are. Embrace the kindness towards yourself, as you did to each one of our guests. Honor the bravery in your actions and celebrate the importance of mental wellness with us. And remember mental wellness with us. And remember it's an exercise that we practice daily. Continue to grow and flourish, knowing that we are in this training for our mental wellness together. We are so proud to have you as part of our community, so join us on Instagram at Oasis Community Podcast for more inspiring conversations, valuable resources and supported content, including journals, worksheets and content in Spanish. Exciting things are in the horizon. Oasis Community break rooms are coming soon to grab tools and take a break for your mental health. Also, we are featuring our six-month training ethical mental health coaching program designed for new and experienced coaches, as well as holistic and healing professionals. Enroll to create a safe and transformative experience to your clients. Links in the bio. Until next time, take care, stay connected and welcome to our Oasis community.