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Integrating Mind and Body: The Power of Breathwork and Holistic Healing

• Dr. Roldan • Season 3 • Episode 11

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Unlock the secrets to holistic well-being with Ashley Sitterding, an emotional master and embodiment mentor, as she guides us through transformative practices that integrate body and mind. Imagine harnessing the power of breathwork, EFT (Emotional Freedom Techniques), somatic movements, sound, and visualization to not only facilitate emotional release but also regulate your nervous system. Ashley dissects the scientifically-backed benefits of these techniques, promising to help you move from being stuck in your head to finding presence in your body. This episode is brimming with actionable insights for anyone eager to explore these transformative practices.

But that's not all. Dive deep into Ashley's personal journey through grief, eating disorders, and chronic illness as she shares the importance of intuition in the healing process. From NLP and hypnosis to Reiki and breathwork, discover an array of methods aimed at achieving lasting well-being. We also discuss the invaluable need for a "dream team" of support—a coach, mentor, and therapist—to navigate the complexities of mental, physical, and emotional health. Through Ashley's heartfelt anecdotes and expert advice, find out how to release stored trauma and connect deeply with your intuition for a balanced, holistic life

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Speaker 1:

Hello beautiful souls and welcome to Oroasis Community Podcast. I am Dr Roldan, your host. I am a doctor in clinical psychology, a BIPOC therapist professor and a mindful somatic coach. While I am a therapist, remember I'm not your therapist. This podcast is not a substitute for professional mental health care, but we have resources in our website and Instagram to support you in that search. Join us for a cozy, felt conversation about mental health, personal growth and mindfulness. We explore tools to care for your mind, your body and your soul. Check the footnotes for disclaimer, trigger warnings and additional resources for each one of the episodes. So grab your favorite cup of tea, coffee or hot chocolate, wrap yourself in a warm blanket and find a coffee spot here with us to be kind to be brave, loud and strong in your search of mental health wellness. Welcome to your Oasis. Welcome everybody to our Oasis podcast. My name is Dr Roldan and come and sit with me. Grab your favorite beverage to warm the soul.

Speaker 1:

And today I have somebody that I totally fangirl over it Miss Ashley. I met her a couple years ago and then truly, truly got to be in her presence, because I am somebody that has done a lot of mindfulness and work, but I have never tried breath work and I tried once with somebody and I was like I feel like I'm dying, I'm going to have an asthma attack. This is not cool, I don't like it. So this is important, also of finding the right practitioner. I tried once with Ashley. They were doing a masterclass and I just joined and this was an online online and she was so powerful that I got all the benefits of releasing through breeding.

Speaker 1:

And then recently, in February, we have the pleasure to be in an event that's the number one event in Fresno that is called Galentine's from. She's Made for More and she did a goddess night which, if you know me, I was like that is very woohoo name. I don't know what to do with this and she was doing body movement and body release of energy and she will explain it more. But I just want to know for everybody out there just try it, just try it. And, like I always say with therapy, you have to go at least for three sessions before saying we're not vibing, I don't like it. Give it a chance three times before you say this is to woohoo or this is not for me, because I only have to do it once with Ashley and I was in love, so no further ado I have. Ms Ashley, please introduce yourself to our audience and tell us who you are and why you do and where you come from.

Speaker 2:

Yes, thank you, sarita. So I am Ashley Sitterding. I am an emotional master and embodiment mentor, and I do that through different modalities such as breathwork tapping, also known as EFT, somatic movements and somatic practices, and I do. I love bringing in sounds like for people to use sound, as we're releasing different emotions and visualization as well. So I have a bunch of different modalities sprinkled in, but primarily getting people out of their heads into their bodies and really connecting them to their emotions and learning how to, you know, regulate their nervous system, move through freeze and how to calm down after the fight or flight and just really become more in tune to themselves.

Speaker 1:

And for our audience. Can you explain and let us know what the letters mean and what did that mean? Getting into our body, I mean our body's there, so what is there to be? So can you explain that to people? Yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 2:

I love that you pointed that out. So EFT actually stands for emotional freedom techniques and for those who may have heard of EFT, tapping, and that's tapping on the different meridian endpoints, and so what that's doing is it's for me I call it psychological acupressure, because we're talking through, we're using CBT, um modalities and practices of kind of reframing, because we we want to talk about all the negative things that we're moving through. That's really on our mind and what is our truth's really feeling. Because a lot of us, especially in self-development and those who know law of attraction or all these different things, it's like, oh, we can't say negative things, because then we're going to try negative things and it's like you can't just sprinkle potpourri over going number two, right, like you still smell it, right. So like we need to like clear out what's there and really acknowledge and bring those parts on board and bring compassion and curiosity to those areas. And then we move to neutrality, more positivity, and while we're doing that we're releasing the emotional um stagnation in those areas because their body holds on to trauma, holds on to suppressed emotions. So we're kind of like tinkering with the little fuse box, if you will, because we're electrical beings and so certain areas get blocked up when we hold tension or tightness. If you have inflammation or constriction or pain, oftentimes there's some. I always believe there's a chemical, there's a mechanical and there's an emotional component to it. And so while we go through this process, not only are we decreasing our cortisol levels, our blood pressure, our heart rate, we're also deactivating the amygdala. As I mentioned at Galentine's at Goddess Night, we have over 300 different scientific peer-reviewed studies in tapping and more to come.

Speaker 2:

And so to really understand that we have to involve our body when we're cause, going to therapy is great and it's so important, it's useful to bring in that awareness. And and it starts with awareness, like we have to have that mental awareness, but then we have to get the body on board. We have to understand that our nervous system, it if we're in a fight or flight or if we're in a freeze, it's almost like nothing can get through. That we may understand on a conscious level, but we're still doing the same things, that we're old patterns that we're trying to get out of. And so to be able to get the body on board and integrate the two because we understand we are mind body connected, um, we don't even have to bring in the soul at this point, which you know you're behind you says mind, body, soul, cause. It is all one and um.

Speaker 2:

So to to really like practice, how to move energy through your body, how to sit with uncomfortable emotions. A lot of times we do unproductive things for ourselves that, um, like overeating or drinking alcohol or doing drugs or shopping or gambling or sex or whatever it is pick your vice right. We reach for those things because we actually don't want to sit with uncomfortability of whatever it is that we're experiencing. So, really, tapping is such a beautiful light way to sprinkle in safety, uh, learning how to be more compassionate. It's, um, I love it because it helps me kind of imprint a new way of talking to themselves, reparenting themselves, um, and, and there's something about it I don't, I think, just the tapping and maybe because, um, I'm I'm hypersensitive, but also like I probably have some type of ADD I was diagnosed but I don't know if I really do but there's something about tapping that kind of distracts you, but it's also soothing.

Speaker 2:

It's so soothing for the body and so, as you're doing that other things, that your body feels safe for emotions or awarenesses to come up that maybe you haven't processed, and then my clients will start crying and they won't know why, but like I'm able to then guide them in a beautiful way, that's like, oh okay, that wasn't so bad. But oftentimes we're sort of scared to feel sad or or to even let anger out or all these different things. But they're all beautiful emotions and they all have something to teach us. So being able to take somebody on that journey of um really had to sit with their emotions in a way that feels good for them, more importantly for them, because not everyone has the same pace, so really meeting people where they're at so they don't get lost in the emotion but they're not bypassing the emotion either.

Speaker 1:

Right, and just to bring up so for the audience. We have talked about it in other episodes. But CBT stands for cognitiveognitive Behavior Therapy, meaning we're working completely with your thoughts, thoughts, feelings, body. So we love the body after Right, and the reason why we do that is for awareness. But that is a technique that is to take you out of a crisis mode Right out of a crisis mode right, because you know there's five stages Fly, fight, freeze and fawning. Fawning is people pleasing. It's reactions that we have evolved from trauma.

Speaker 1:

But the other thing I want to point out for our audience that's listening or you're watching us, is that okay? Because there's a girl that is just talking about scientific journals, why she has this lingo that is so boo-hoo but at the same time, she has a scientific one. So let me tell you why. So, actually, because, as any person like you know me, we're like how do you know what you know right? What is your credentials, what do you do and what is like the tapping? And for people that is like me, I, we are gonna be posting some peer-reviewed journals. Those are journals that means they have done experiments, repeat experiments and they get saying the same answer, and these by professionals. What I mean is scholar professionals, you know, and also I'm gonna put there how beautiful she said it. I'm going to put a little worksheet for everybody to understand what it means Feel your feelings.

Speaker 1:

Feel your feelings, it's not talk. Oh my God, I am so sad. Feel your feelings means where in my body I locate my sadness, my anger, my all of it, and there are just signals. Feelings are just like not flashlights. That's not like the blinkers in your car right, if you blink left, we know we go to the left. If you blink right, we know you go to the right. But when we are in trauma it's like being in a snowstorm where you're like blinking, blinking, blinking, blinking everywhere Because I want people to see that I'm in danger. Oh, I could be a danger for somebody else.

Speaker 1:

So if you're struggling or somebody that you love is struggling, we have also resources in the notes that you can go and check because, like Ashley said, therapy is great. It's the first step for self-awareness and once you get to a point you can start trying all the other things, like you can start doing tapping, which why tapping works? Because all our body is a network system for our brain. Our brain is connected to different parts of your body. It's funny, if you want to try this, if you go to the palate of your mouth, like the palate of your mouth with the tip of your tongue, I call it tickling your brain. So if your gurgle is really fast, it's like a tickle in your tongue. I call it tickling your brain. So if your gurgle is really fast, it's like it's like a tickle in your brain, and that is because it's one of the most primitive parts of our body that we still have. So if you ever are so nervous, stressed or whatever, you can try that, and it gives you five seconds to take a deep breath.

Speaker 1:

Which brings me to Ashley's beautiful work in the Goddess Knight. You know what I love about her she is very aware of the state of each person, and that awareness comes because she is a scientist, she's a professional, and she will tell you how and why. What do I mean? As a person with chronic illness, I stop doing exercise. And why not? Because I can't like, literally, I will have a heart attack. If so, uh, shout out to all my putts. Uh, dealing people out there. So you know that we cannot do exercise.

Speaker 1:

But ashley is so good about doing this body movement to whatever you are. So in the goddess night everybody was dancing around and doing their thing. Well, it's not dancing movement, they were doing the movement that felt good to their bodies. And it was two of us that we were like we can't move that much or like I have to be sitting down every five minutes and then I get up and do more, which normally I don't do. Once I sit down, you leave me alone and leave me there because my poor body is like. But I keep doing it because you know I have done the internal work I have as a therapist. I have my own therapy and my own therapist, my own coach, I have a body movement coach and I love everything that Ashley does. But for the people out there that says who is this girl and why does she have this knowledge, can you tell them your?

Speaker 2:

background, please, yes, of course I, and you know it's so beautiful that you say that, because I really do feel passionate about bridging the gap between science and spirituality, because I think they can all coexist. I think it's about the beautiful union of all of it, just like eastern and western, like there, there doesn't have to be one way and everybody's different it's. It's like pick your flavor Right, and so, um, for me. I have been in RN for 13 years. I have been in all different sorts of settings, um ER, pacu, which is post anesthesia OR pre-op, post surgical, where they stay on the floor longer. I've dabbled and now I do private care, nursing, like twice a week because I really enjoy it, and so there's that. But I do coaching on the other days of the week, and so for me, understanding the science is so important, but I also know that there's so much more that science can't measure, and there's so much more that my intuition has just led me to through my own journey of when I lost my dad in terrible grief, where I had seven years of an eating disorder and I was so disconnected from my body where I was just running around with the chicken, with Seth Goff just going to sleep, waking up, going, you know, going to sleep, waking up, going to work, going to sleep, waking up, go like the on repeat and just had really lost touch of myself. And um was in a relationship. It wasn't an unhealthy one or anything, but it was one where I was coen, mesh and I had lost myself. And so, um, yeah, I would say around like 24, 25 really just started my journey of really rediscovering who I was and what I wanted to do and that led me down life and success.

Speaker 2:

Coaching, getting NLP, which stands for neuro-linguistic programming and it's about dealing with the subconscious mind and hypnosis, helped some people with weight loss and some, you know, smoking and other things. But I was like there's, there's gotta be more. You know, um went level three in Reiki, which really taught me about the energy systems of the body. Um, and then I became an EFT practitioner which, quite honestly, for those who do know what it is and have seen it, it does look absolutely ridiculous and for the longest time, even after I got certified, it was actually tied into another certification. I didn't go for that and the funny thing is it's the one I use the most, but it was also the one that took me the longest to get on board with Cause. I was like this is ridiculous, how is happening on my face? And all these different points going to help me? And you know, I really poo-pooed on it for a while and now it's one of my most favorite tools because I mean, I literally use it every day on myself but I've seen such shifts in people, in my clients, and so that.

Speaker 2:

And then just diving deeper into breath work and nervous system work and EMDR, and you know I'm constantly learning and fine tuning and learning different somatic practices and through my own self-experimentation I just I really I started dancing and I started like not chanting but like making like almost primal noises to it. There's so much power when we release sound, because our body recognizes rhythm and frequency and resonance and that's where our subconscious is, that's where our emotions are stored. So I knew there was stuff in my body I needed to move. I was reading anything and everything I could get my hands on to about self-development and healing and da-da-da-da.

Speaker 2:

But at a certain point you just got to do it. You got to get in your body and you just got to feel it and heal it and release and and really become in tune with what your body's trying to speak with to you. You can't read that or learn that in a book Like it. Just it takes time, and especially for someone that is so used to going all the time and never really listening to what their body actually needs. Or maybe they do hear, but they push it aside. Ultimately we end up with chronic disease, and that was me. I had terrible joint pain and it was funny because I knew I had like thyroid stuff and arthritis stuff and all these different things. But labs came back normal and thank God because I mean at that time I might have taken a pill, but ultimately I know I would have been like no, I know there's another way.

Speaker 2:

And there was, and that was really coming back home to myself, learning boundaries, learning how to slow down, learning that my mindset you know the thoughts that I'm thinking aren't me and how to really like come in tune with that, getting my nervous system on board. So, yeah, there's.

Speaker 1:

And I love what you say about health, right, Health is mental health, physical, emotional health, and we cannot have one without another one. Also, a pill is not going to change the health of the three. I'm pro whatever works for you, it can be natural, it can be an aid. And also to understand that there is times that we do need a little help, right, it's not the same having a flu and we take the tea of mama's recipe, which is honey and lemon, which we know they do kill, right, and a little bit of if you're Latino, to all my Latinos, they know what I'm talking about they put a little Bixbap or Roo in your chest and life becomes so much beautiful, right. But then if we don't take care of it, if we ignore it, then it becomes a pneumonia, it becomes a sinus infection, not any kind of infection, and for that we will need antibiotics. But what do we tend to do? Because we're a fast pace, we want to fix real quick, we want the antibiotics to fix everything. But the antibiotics have side effects too, and those side effects, if you're already kind of immune to things or you are more prone to things, they're going to affect you. The same comes with trauma and storing our bodies right. When we start releasing trauma, guess what? You're going to notice that, yeah, your liver has kidney stones or you have problems with your joints because before you were so tense or so involved in your own.

Speaker 1:

I don't want to feel it. I don't want to feel it. I don't want to feel it. So I always say like, like anything that is worth doing or like is going to change your life for the better. It requires a transformation that is painful. When I say painful doesn't mean that you are going to lose yourself. When I say painful is, we need to grieve the person that we used to be, because we will never be that person. We will be either a better version or a second version. Two, we will never know what other things in other places work.

Speaker 1:

For example, me as a neuroscientist and as a clinical psychologist.

Speaker 1:

I'm like I did book science, hardcore, right.

Speaker 1:

And then I did four years of mindfulness, breath and stress reduction mindfulness, breath and stress reduction which literally the graduation was one week of silence and saying, right, my brain goes all over the place and I was like I last three days because I was like I cannot last the whole week, so I have to do it again, Right, but that just teach you that we hate sitting in silence and being in ourselves.

Speaker 1:

But if you are listening and you think about the darkest days, or the darkest moments in your life has been when we stay still and we finally can feel it's when everything comes up because unfortunately, we have pushed everything so much. I call it the beach ball that goes in the pool. You can push it all you want, but it's going to come back and smack you in the face in any shape or form. So what you will say to people if they want to find either a coach or a practitioner like you, what is the I call it the green flags that go ahead and do it and what is the red flags? I think you need extra cushions.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think for me, and how it's always worked out. I mean again, I and I think, because I've gotten so in tune with my body, I like have an instant knowing. I like have this internal, like ooh, or where you're just so fascinated by somebody and you just you're going on their page and they're saying and they feel like you can feel their heart, you feel connected to them, you feel like you just resonate with them. There's something about them and I mean for me one of the most important things, and I didn't always get it right because I was in my mind, I was like oh, I think this is what I need, or they look like they're successful.

Speaker 2:

And those were the ones that I didn't really feel seen by, I didn't really feel held by, I didn't feel like they were giving meeting me where I was at, they were just giving me a system or this one size fits all type do this and you'll get this. And it's like that's not how we work. And, and I think too, just um, yeah, it's definitely has always been an internal pull. The ones that were the right decisions were just like this instant, like feeling of, like safe.

Speaker 1:

I felt safe with them, I felt seen with them, I felt um like we could really be friends okay and um, just to piggyback on that, uh, I always say, like you, you know, like any athlete, any because a lot of athletes work. In his case it was more like biofeedback, which is also breath work in a more scientific way. And then he also had a therapist and he did MDR and you know, like we all come with baggage, or with a blueprint that is not ours, it's generations of X, y and Z, or with a blueprint that is not ours, it's generations of X, y and Z. And one thing that I want the public to remember is that the thing that you're the most scared to do normally is the thing that is going to bring you to the next level. What do I mean with the next level? Nothing that is going to harm you emotionally or mentally. Run away from it, just don't do it. But if it feels like, okay, I'm scared because I think they're not going to like me, or I'm scared because I think the X, y and Z, that is okay. But I love what you say because in our community that's what we do, you are seen, we're kind. Community, that's what we do, you're seeing, you are, we're kind and I always.

Speaker 1:

There's a slogan of our um community is be proud for whatever you are. Yes, I'm depressed, I'm anxious, I'm, I have attention disorder or I have a chronic illness or I have an eating disorder. Be proud of that in the sense like it took you something to get there, because once you acknowledge it, once you name it, you can change it and then. So be proud, be loud. Be loud meaning get help. However, that start that steps. It looks like for some is a coach, for some is a mentor, for some is a therapist, for some is a little more like I need to go to the hospital, right so. But you have to be loud about asking for help. So be proud. Be proud who you are and be loud and be kind, not to others, okay, people please their recoveries right. Be nice to you. If you cannot say nothing nice about your own life, that's a red flag for you that we need to get a little more help and all parts of you are accepted.

Speaker 1:

How many of us we go around comparing ourselves to the top of the iceberg and compare ourselves to the shinies, the social media person, but we forget that they start somewhere. I always mention and I know there's going to be a battle in the comments about this in the sense of, like, either you're a safety or you are a queen bee, right, like you always fight between those two, but both of them come from trauma and both of them have done so much work with a mentor, a coach, a therapist. So, for our audience, what you will say as a clinician and as a coach, what is your ideal client Like? Who can find you and what state in their life they have to be? Because you know, like, for example, I'm a trauma, I'm a CPTSD, which stands complex trauma therapist right, so I deal with people that clients that are in the very, very, very dark place, right, and then we have to dig out a lot of things.

Speaker 1:

So they come to me when there is no more things to do, right, when we're at the end of our ropes. So you don't come to me when you want to learn how to do breath work, right, because I feel like with breath work, it's just to release the last stuff that we have and just to move to the lightening, if you will. So what is your ideal client? And what do you do when you have a client that you're like? And what do you do when you have a client that you're like I think you need something extra.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah. Well, it's funny because actually both of two of my most recent clients they have a therapist and I'm like, yes, I love that, I support that, I want that because you know you have all these things that are brought up, so you kind of have an understanding of, like, what are you working on? And then we bring that to our session and then I give you like everyday tools that you could do and and how you can further along and how you can really start embodying some of these things. And again, it's not traditional stuff because, well, one like, although I have traditional training, a lot of this was my own and what I found that really helped me. And, um, most of my um clients are female.

Speaker 2:

So, really like, dancing is a really fun way to to get in the body, but I always bring in a process and an element of movement that is somatic base and we're like really like, almost like Tai Chi in a way, but not um, but it's also it's just getting us like, it gets the heart rate up, it gets you out of that thinking mind and really like start thinking about it.

Speaker 2:

And I bring in the things of like what you want to release and we're like in it we're like all right, let's let go of that Like inability to trust, and let's bring in that faith and trust and surrender to knowing that like things are working out and how can we shift this and that, knowing that like things are working out and how can we shift this and that.

Speaker 2:

And so I love it when you know my clients kind of have an understanding of you know this isn't working for me anymore. I keep going to food when I know that I'm emotionally stressed or I'm burnt out or I'm tired and I just keep doing it and I can't seem to stop. You know, or just like I have these habits that just keep me locked into this life that I no longer want to be. I can see how it's hurting me, it's no longer serving me. So really it's people who have had tools of coping and they're no longer working and they need to widen their tool belt because they're stepping into that next version. They're stepping into a bigger dream that they have for themselves, or they just want to understand their body more. They want to understand how to be with their emotions, how to connect more to their intuition and really like be able to to tune in more to that.

Speaker 1:

Nice and I love and I want everybody, if you listen, to please go and post your comments. Have you have a therapist and have you have your dream team. As everybody knows, I'm a super nerd. So as a part of being a super nerd, you know, I believe in the Justice League. I believe oh my goodness, my favorite is the X-Men.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, I'm going in a tangent of nerdiness Marbles. Yeah, so you need your Justin Ling, you need your X-Men. Meaning you need Dr X to tell you hey, how's your mind doing, kind of thing. But then I need the Wolverine to put all my emotions of anger out. But then I need the beautiful just storm to make my body move through the air. Right, what do I say like that and for my non-nerdy friends, I pull my eyes, but you know I'm talking about the mind-body spirit basically.

Speaker 1:

So what I'm saying is, if you don't have your dream team with you, start building it. Get a coach, get a mentor and get a therapist. With that you're invincible. Meaning you're going to put more tools, as you say, in your tool. Well, you're going to heal wounds that are just oozing and you are going to learn techniques, not only to not hurt others but not hurt anymore, right? So if you don't have your dream team suggestion, we have Ashley Ashley, I'm taking new clients or if they're in corporate and we have bus babes out there that they want to hire you for a corporate event where they can find you.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. On Instagram Holistic Alignment, it's with a W because it's all about the whole part of us. So W-H-O-L-I-S-T-I-C alignment 411. So W-H-O-L-I-S-T-I-C alignment 411. And, yeah, I am currently taking I think I've got like one more spot but I have a two month, a four month and a six month Very, very reasonable prices. Actually.

Speaker 2:

I sometimes I'm like why don't I raise? I'm like this just feels good. I want it to be accessible, I want people to have these tools and for me you'll get 24-7 accessibility to me. I mean, you may not answer immediately, but the point is, as you're moving through this and as we have our call and I give you your homework or what it is you're working on, we come up with the roadblocks and all of a sudden we're like, oh, this is coming up for me. It's like quick access to me to be able to help you through that, and so I think that's really important.

Speaker 2:

It was something that I wanted, because sometimes I didn't have what I needed on the call itself, but then it's like, man, it really hits when I'm I'm there and then that's when I really need the support. So so I love that option and, yeah, reach out, dm me, let me know what's going on and I always jump on discovery calls because I don't take everyone either Like. I always make sure it's a good fit and you know it's always a good clarity call to be able to connect and see if it is something that is right for you.

Speaker 1:

Right and just for everybody, we will be posting resources for therapy, for support groups and, of course, ashley's, because, like I said, what we want and we champion for you is that you have your woohoo, your science and your spirit together, because we are. We're not only one part, we're a whole, so we have to work in all the parts of us and, as always, thank you so much for being here at Oasis. Find our next episode in the next season and everybody, have a wonderful start day.

Speaker 2:

Thank you Bye.

Speaker 1:

As we conclude today's episode, take a moment to reflect. Be proud of the journey, for every step that brings you closer to who you truly are. Embrace the kindness towards yourself, as you did to each one of our guests. Honor the bravery in your actions and celebrate the importance of mental wellness with us. And remember it's an exercise that we practice daily. Continue to grow and flourish, knowing that we are in this training for our mental wellness together. We are so proud to have you as part of our community, so join us on Instagram at Oasis Community Podcast for more inspiring conversations, valuable resources and supported content, including journals, worksheets and content in Spanish. Exciting things are in the horizons. Our Oasis community break rooms are coming soon to grab tools and take a break for your mental health. Also, we are featuring our six-month training ethical mental health coaching program designed for new and experienced coaches, as well as holistic and healing professionals. Enroll to create a safe and transformative experience to your clients. Links in the bio. Until next time, take care, stay connected and welcome to our Oasis community.