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We sit down with coach Jordan Yaklin to explore shame-free fitness for gamers and introverts, how to quiet food noise, and why structure and accountability beat willpower. We cover GLP-1 medications, finding qualified coaching, and building small, sustainable habits that support mental health.

• coach origin story and the nerd-fitness niche
• why structure and accountability reduce overwhelm
• low-friction starts for movement and daily living
• simple tactics to curb food noise and late-night snacking
• GLP-1 meds as tools, not magic, and avoiding rebound
• how to choose a qualified, adaptive coach
• confidence, loneliness, and community without pressure
• backward planning from goals to tiny actions
• free Discord and a yearlong beginner’s handbook

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Welcome And Ground Rules

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to our Oasis Community Podcast, a cosy space for real growth. Here we learn how to succeed without burning out, care for our mental health, well-being, and everyday life, and stay rooted in our community, play, enjoy. I am a therapist, a researcher and educator, but not your therapist. This podcast is for educational purpose only, is not a substitute for therapy or medical advice. And any guests, opinions shared here are their own. If you're ready for tools that feel calm, sustainable, and human, you are in the right place. Come, sit down next to me and let's begin. Welcome everybody. Grab your little beverage of preference to warm your heart, your soul. And today, actually, because it's February, when we're recording this, uh, almost the end of January, but it will uh you're in February, we want to talk about exercising. Because you know, new year, new year, right? But that doesn't work all the time. Because when we just put goals in or um goal setting, etc., etc., we need bodies, we need accountability, we need coaches to or um mentors to help us to go through certain parts because you know, remember that little thing, that little nugget that we have here, cold brain. It likes to be lazy, it likes to be well, not lazy, it likes to keep you safe. And safety is cozy couch with snackies. So we have Jordan, and he is an amazing, not only friend and also a powerful nerd, as you can tell, but also um he is an amazing coach and motivates people um in particular to start exercising and doing different things. But I want you to hear from him his story uh for where he was, where he came from, and where he is now, and how he's mentoring others. Because remember, here in our podcast, we learn everything about mental health and mental wellness. And part of our mental wellness is having our body aligned with. So, Jordan, take it off. So tell us a little bit how this started, how did your channel start, how do you become a coach?

Pivot To Online And Nerd-Fitness Niche

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, thank you for having me on. And um I'll try not to rant her too long. But the TLDR of how I became a coach was I played sports in high school, primarily football and track. And I went to a small Hicks town, Hicks Hick High School, where our sport coaches were our teachers and they were also our strength coaches. And so I quickly found out as a 14-year-old freshman that our coaches didn't really know how to teach proper mechanics in the weight room. And there were a few of my fellow student athletes that were getting hurt, and we actually stopped teaching a few exercises because the coaches just didn't know how to do it. And so I kind of took it as my job to correct the wrongs of my forefathers in a way and be able to properly teach the fundamentals and foundational movements to allow for people to become the best version of themselves. Um, flash forward more years than I probably should have taken me. I got my master's degree, graduated on Star Wars Day, May the 4th, 2019, with the goal of becoming. Uh I normally had my master's degree hanging up, but I'm experimenting with um, that's Andrew, the Flame of the West, Aragorn Sword from Return of the King. Um, so that's taking precedent now. Um, but so I my goal was when I graduated was to become a high school strength and conditioning coach. So where I can again teach these novice lifters the lay a good, strong foundation so they can be the best version of themselves. And whether that was ending at high school or going on to college or more, that's what I wanted to do. As you know, less than a year later, the whole world shut down. The pandemic really shifted my gaze to what online had to offer. And I really thankful for that. I'm I'm not the only person, but I definitely benefited from the pandemic. Um, and so it was nice because it really shifted my gaze and it gave me time to kind of reset because I was really in this, I call it the NPC mindset, which we can dive into later. Um, but there was a point where this is video, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. So there's a point where I'm in bed and I have a bookshelf that's very similar to this. Um I have DD novels or DD books on the top, then I had fantasy novels on my second shelf, and then I had like health profession, professional development books on the third and fourth shelf. And I'm laying in bed staring at this, and I'm like, what? These are my two passions. What can I do to kind of blend these two passions? And it dawned on me, and I was like, why don't you tailor your expertise and your services to the the nerdy gaming community? And I was like, perfect. And that was the inception of Phoenix Performance Coaching. So that's the the TLDR of it all.

Geek Vs Nerd And Gamer Culture

SPEAKER_01

The Noggin. Um and as you when you see this uh in YouTube, you guys can see the beautiful background that Jordan has. Uh I'm all attracted to the Dune um book. Yeah. Uh I'm assuming you are a big fan of Dune.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, I am. Yep. I got the the six novels there, and then up here are the um tabletop RPG books. And then I have pops um up there too. My screen's a little cut off, but I have pops up there too.

SPEAKER_01

So a lot of people in the podcast know that I am a nerd or a geek. The pending is an exchangeable uh in the sense of like I do technology things, so that's why the geek comes out and the nerd, if you will, is because all things uh Disney in comics. Um so can you explain people what is the difference between uh geek and nerd and also a gamer versus not a gamer? Because you use some language that a lot of my fans will understand because they do gaming, but the rest of the world is like, what are you talking about?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So I I think as far as like the definition of gamer, I think that's kind of obvious. It's people who make gaming a part of their culture, their identity, and all that. Um, is that the middle-aged mom who's playing Candy Crush all day, even though that's the largest population of quote unquote people that play gamers, people that play game is and middle-aged women, um, do they consider themselves gamers? I would say probably not, but that's up for them to decide. Uh, I would say it's probably more of the people who have backdrops of video games and and tabletop games and stuff like that. That's actually part of their colour, again, their culture, their identity. Um, that's who a gamer is. Nerd and geek, I I sometimes use those um interchangeably. I think it's all on how you want to identify it. I would say nerd is more on the side of like the like the shows and the um media that you kind of consume, where geek might be like what you were saying, more about like the IT side of things, the diving into like really diving into the nitty-gritty of a particular um subject that others might find boring, um, like whether it's really geeking out about biology or IT or something to that effect. I would say that's probably more in line with what geek geek is.

SPEAKER_01

And in your experience, uh when you are coaching people or helping them to get in their best body form, um do you cater to everybody or a specific uh just for gamers or males? Who is your population?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. So if I had to say who do we serve most commonly, uh it's called your ideal client avatar. So whenever I create content, I have this particular character avatar in mind. And it is going to be a male IT professional between the ages of 35 to 45 that has hasn't really been active or maybe hasn't been active since high school, and they maybe have just had an early health scare, whether they are they are putting on blood pressure medication or they just got diagnosed with prediabetes, that type where they need to lose over 50 pounds. That's generally who we serve. Now, we serve women, we serve people trying to gain weight, we serve people that are older, we serve people that are younger. We serve a lot of people, but our content is geared towards that particular avatar. So anybody who can um resonate with that content are people who we serve.

SPEAKER_01

We resonate with that mostly for my students. As you guys know, I'm a professor in a university and I'm in the science and I'm with the gamers uh too. So one of the things that uh especially right now that we're starting school is the 20 pounds that we get. That was in my time, meaning a long time ago, when I went to school, that you get 20 pounds uh as a freshman. Now it's 30 to 40.

SPEAKER_00

Oh wow.

Structure And Accountability Over Intimidation

SPEAKER_01

Like, yeah, it has changed uh due to, you know, um how the food is processed and also how demanding a school has become. And we live in a world of connection and disconnection, right? So let's talk about how why somebody will go to you when they can go to the gym, or they can go to, you know, like all those places that uh I can go and sweat or just look at people recording me doing exercises. So, what was the difference? Why why somebody will come to you? And have you find that that is more helpful to create community for them?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. The biggest thing, the the two biggest things that people come to work with us are structure and accountability. It's they try to find and create a program using ChatGPT or the millions of programs that are online, and they either don't like it, they don't know what to do next, like they'll do it for a couple weeks and they don't know how to evolve the program to fit their needs, their new in needs, or they just go into the gym. This is a pretty common story. You go into the gym, you look around, you get overwhelmed by all the equipment, you put your head down, you walk to the nearest treadmill, you walk for as long as you think it's an acceptable time, you put your head down and you leave, never to return. Um, and so we kind of help break down that barrier. But then there's also the mental burden of program development, right? Or program design, I'll say. Um, we we all have, we all know the spoon theory. I call it spell slots because that's cooler. And so it costs a certain amount of spell slots to create program design. And a lot of people just don't have that time and energy to research how to actually create a program. So that's the structure. Like we take that whole mental burden and we do all that for them. And then the accountability piece. I always ask them in our first call. We do a couple of calls before client enrolls. I always ask them, why not just continue what you're doing, tightening up a little bit, fill in the holes in the boat, so to speak. And they're like, clearly, I can't do it. Um, a lot of times it's like if I don't have somebody to uh, you know, answer to it or hold me accountable, then I know I'm not gonna hold myself accountable or I'm not gonna do it. I can always convince myself to kick the can down the road to move it to the next day, et cetera. And so having that second mind to the madness can really help when they know in the app that we use, they're gonna see, or I'm gonna see what they do and what they don't do. They know that um that either they need to do it out of spite or they're like, well, I don't want to show him that I'm not working out, so I'll at least do it. And then that helps get us through that that initial friction.

Loneliness, Confidence, And Community Design

SPEAKER_01

And what have you noticed uh since you said you work with a lot of males in certain the age group that you work with? What do you notice about like creating community and connection with others? Um, because now it has been the topic of the year, right? Like loneliness and how do we create community when we are so connected, but so disconnected one another and so polarized in many things. Like when it comes to fitness, when it comes to politics and all the things, we are very, very polarized. A lot of people say you need to lose weight, take this. Uh, or you have the other sense of like, I don't know if my audience pay attention, but you have a master's degree. You have, yes, the history that you were heard by somebody that wasn't well trained to train you, but he went and got educated about it. It's not like you wake up one day, like, okay, I gonna teach people how to go and lose weight, right? Yes. So can you talk about those two things? One, the loneliness epidemic that we have and how exercising and having accountability and having you in our corner will help us. And two, um, what is your view of like, I wake up one day and I want to be a fitness coach?

Food Mood Links And Sustainable Eating

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So there's there's a lot to unpack there. Um, as far as like loneliness and community, like you said, a lot of people are kind of turning towards that. I'm even seeing people in like the um personal development and professional development space turning less from less from like one-on-one mentorships to more paid communities, like the school group and stuff. So a lot of people are trying to monetize creating a community. We have a free Discord, a lot of free resources, and they're not trying to plug it, but we do try to build that community. But I also know gamers are to overgeneralize, extremely introverted. And so our coaching is one-on-one where we do like the workouts are on their own. They do the workouts on their own. They don't log in via Zoom and do a workout with me. Um, they do them whenever they want, the comfort of their own home if they want. Probably half of our clients do stuff at home. Um, and then we do bi-weekly, so every other week, we hop on a Zoom call, just one-on-one. So that way we can kind of talk about how things are going. And that allows for them to really kind of open up and and talk about things that they really don't have anybody else to talk to. More often than not, they don't have somebody to express uh concerns about their physical health to in a normal day-to-day basis like that. And so other coaches will try to build that community doing group coaching aspect and group coaching calls. I think that that there's a place for that, but I also think it's detrimental to people who are insecure and and low confidence. Um, which going into the the loneliness epidemic, I think it's partially, maybe largely part to lack of confidence. Because if you're going from work to home, then no wonder you're not meeting anybody new because you're not going anywhere new. And you don't want to go anywhere because you're always worrying about your clothes fitting, always tugging at your shirt to making sure it's not riding up. You're spending all of those that mental bandwidth, those, those spell slots, worrying about how you're looking every second, rather than trying to meet new people and meet new friends. When um, how are you supposed to meet new friends when you're constantly worried about, you know, your appearance and making sure you just look presentable? Not looking at like your best, but just like, how do I not look like a slob? And so going to the gym, you know, eating right, uh, there's a lot of research to suggest a lot of serotonin comes from the gut. So that helps with mood, right? And so if we're eating good foods, and it doesn't have to be like 100% clean foods, I hate that term, but primarily eating more whole foods while allowing some indulgences, keeping it moderate and consistent, and working out, changing, improving our body composition, lowering our body fat percentage. Those are all ways to really boost that mood, boost that confidence to branch out and actually take action on the loneliness epidemic rather than just playing the What Was Me card um while you're sitting at home and just eating Doritos while playing World of Warcraft until 3 a.m.

GLP-1 Meds: Tool, Not Magic

SPEAKER_01

What do you think about the elephant in the room, right? Since we're talking about fitness and losing weight. What do you think about the LP uh GLP medications and how for some is that saving uh treatment and for others they have like anything abusing to the detriment of somebody that actually really, really wants to work out and strain their body versus just the look of their body.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, absolutely. We also want to talk about the professionalism too, so let's put it in that part. Um but yeah, GLP ones. They are, like you said, kind of like everything. They're a tool. They are really good at kickstarting people into a program or to a routine, I'll say, and getting them to see somewhat fast results. Why it works is it essentially really slows down your digestive tract. So you digest food really slow, so you get full a lot faster. And I also know that it can just really turn off the food noise in your head. Um, because I've experimented with it and when I'm taking it, I know I can just like almost mid-bite be like, I'm done. To where before it's like I need to clean a plate, I need to be a part of the clean plate club because there's starving kids in Africa or whatever. Um, so having that, somebody called it generational food trauma. I think that's a little aggressive, but I do like that term because it's like when your grandparents or great-grandparents grew up in the depression, that generational trauma is is trickling down to us because food scarcity. Now we're in an abundance of food, but we still have the food scarcity mindset. So um I think I'm going on a tangent. But when you don't have that food noise, that can really help you improve your eating habits. The problem is people don't change their lifestyle habits or lifestyle, they don't change their movement patterns. They don't try to eat more whole foods, they just try to eat less quantity of bad foods without implementing vegetables and whole foods and proteins. And so when they do get weaned off of a GLP one, they revert back to the behaviors that got them in the get there in the first place. And then they see the weight regain. Very similar to January 1st, everyone does a crash diet, then um they lose 20 pounds, and then a month later they gain 30 pounds with weight rebounding because they don't change their lifestyle. They just revert back to where they were. So GLP1s are just another drop in that bucket, another tool in that toolbox.

Choosing A Qualified Coach

SPEAKER_01

Yes. And I love how you said that, you know, like in therapy too, right? We give you tools, we help you to work in that trauma. And or in the cultural language of love, for example. And or in my culture, you cannot live without like three plates in you, right? That's the way that they love you. So, um, but it's when the tools are weaponized, right? And that's what I tell people like, um, for example, right now, um, when you go to any social media, a lot of the psychology terms are very popular, like narcissists, toxic, trauma, uh, they become your it girls now, right? When in reality we are not educated of what those words mean or what that does to X, Y, and C, or the people that actually are dealing with that. For example, if you are battling for so long to um lose weight in the GLP L1 start you, but you don't change the anything else, you're gonna go back in worse to where you started it, right? Kind of like that's why I use the example of my college students because they come with different in different backgrounds, different ways to eat, and they come to like whatever they're gonna be fed the first year, and they first the war, they gain weight. Um, and then they don't change, and it's really hard to go back to the change. And then we go to the professionalism. Um, people here know that I let them decide for what is where route they want to take. I have have here professionals, coaches, and life coaches, and people that comes and just say, I want to do this, I want to help the world. But I always say with so much information in our hands, it's so hard to be professional because literally anybody can chat GBT something and say, Well, this is how you should do it, right? So, how what kind of advice will you give people when they want to pick like um coach or like a workout body or somebody that holds a mentor to hold them accountable? And what have you seen in the industry?

Shame-Free Starts And Tiny Steps

Quieting Food Noise With Simple Habits

SPEAKER_00

Yes, great question. We can kind of tie into our your original question about people who are what I call weekend warriors. They take a weekend long course and they call themselves a personal trainer. That's why I call myself a coach and not a personal trainer, because personal trainers are like the bottom of the barrel. Those are your people at Planet Fitness who just got their certification last week and they and you're you're their first client. That's a place everybody starts there, but uh, you should always try to become better and learn more. A lot of times people are like, oh, I was in shape. I've been in shape my whole life, so therefore I can help other people get in shape without actually realizing the struggles of uh food dependency. Well, well, everyone's dependent on food. I don't want to say addiction because, again, I think that's might be too strong of a word, but um, people who have that food noise that can't say no to a plate of cookies in front of them. And so they're like, just say no. We all have the same 24 hours in the day, that type of trainer, you know? So, what uh what do I tell somebody if they're looking for a coach? So you have to find it's very similar, but maybe on a smaller scale to like finding a therapist. You have to resonate with them, you have to connect with them on some kind of level, and you have to feel heard by them. So we were talking about when I create content, I create it for one particular avatar. I want to, in an ideal world, somebody watching my content, they look at this and they're like, holy crap, this has come straight from my brain onto the onto his social media page, and he is speaking directly to me. That's what I want. And when I have those people, they are like bought in immediately and it's smooth sailing. They most of the time they see great results and it's you know, it's a match made in heaven, so to speak. Um, so definitely find somebody that resonates with you that that will make you feel heard and that will listen, not only make you feel heard, but will actually listen to you and adjust the program to fit your lifestyle. I always say you're the master of your own domain, you're doing the workouts, not me. So let me know if something changes. Um coaches all tend to go through this phase where it's like we need to listen to the science, and I can create a perfect program for you that's everything exactly down to the science to the nitty-gritty to the gram. And it means nothing if you don't do it, right? So I would rather create a program that's maybe 80% optimized, but you do it 100% of the time. And so that's where the difference between a good and great coach come in. And so find somebody that will actually be adaptive to your lifestyle. Some horror stories. There's a few. Um, I was just had a just had a conversation with a girl yesterday who's she really struggles to with appetite or lack thereof. She really struggles getting in protein. She eats like 60 grams of protein a day. And her coach told her she needs to eat 140. And I'm like, you're over doubling the amount of protein that you're eating, or or that she wants you to double the amount of protein that you're eating. You're gonna have even like GI issues doing that consistently. It's like that, she is setting you up for failure. And so unrealistic expectations are huge, especially when somebody is somebody who's always been fit in their life, coming to try to try to help somebody who needs to lose like 60 pounds, they don't know those struggles. So They're like, we'll just do this, this, and this. They'll create a program that fits them rather than creating a program that fits the client. And I hear that a lot where, well, my buddy's a bodybuilder. So he I worked out with him and I couldn't walk for three days or longer. And it's like, yeah, you're doing his workout program. He's up here. We need to start down here. And so let's create a program that fits you in your lifestyle, rather than finding a gym buddy who is like well beyond your current level.

Asking For Help When You People-Please

SPEAKER_01

And with fitness, it's almost like in therapy, right? That just because you work with one doesn't mean it works with everybody. And the human mind, right? We want the thing, the ideal version of us. But before getting to that bodybuilder, we have to go to Fluffy Builder. And then we have to go to the other avatars before we get there. It's the same, like a quick fix, right? We are a nation of the quick fixes. And I think a lot of the um appeal that we have in media and everything is that I give you a quick fix because I did it. But in reality, you're not seeing like the metabolism, the body structure, the mucular level of the structure of your body. And also, like you say, a lot of the times your stomach is or second brain. So if your self-esteem, your um mental health is not on point before we start that, everything is gonna come out when you're working out, right? So a lot of my clients, um, as you guys remember, I'm a therapist, but not your therapist. Um I tell them to work out. And the workout in the beginning is just like get out of the house to walk the dog outside, right? Baby steps. Because a lot of the times it's terrifying going to a gym, going to any support group for um fitness. Um I I have a chronic illness, right? So I went I went to one of those groups, you know, like to do Pilates and stuff like that. Oh my gosh, I have never felt so sick in my life. In the sense of like, I went with like I have these limitations, let's adjust, right? And the way that the coach or trainer was training everybody, it was through shame. I have noticed that a lot of like the coaching is through shame. Like you can do it. We all have 24 hours and like, and I'm like, no, we don't. Like, no, we don't, right? So what I love about what I love about Jordan and his program is that he focused, yes, in what you can do in little by little turning the dial up versus just like I'm at 10 completely and blow your uh ears off. So if I was sitting down, listening to this podcast, and just thinking, hmm, maybe I need not to lose weight, maybe I need to get fit, or maybe I need to learn more about uh how to quiet the food noise in my mind, um, or just a different lifestyle. Where do I start? If you can give me three little nuggets, or where do I start? I'm lost, and this is for my video gamers. I'm sorry for the rest of the world. If you are Zelda and you're just there in the woods and you're like, where do I go here? Where do what route do I take?

Build Your Support Party: Therapy And Coaching

1% Better And Backward Planning

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. So there's a couple of questions there. So, like if somebody's trying to be more fit, or if somebody comes to me, say they're trying to be more fit or healthy, I always ask them what does that mean? Because those are somewhat nebulous terms. And so let's say they're trying to not necessarily lose weight, but maybe just become make their activities of daily living easier. Make it so they're not going, getting out of breath, going upstairs. Um, I would say start small, like you said. Start with some very low impact cardio, whether that's walking the dog, um, whether that's putting your workout shoes on, because that's the lowest barrier entry, the thing that we can think of. What's the smallest actionable step? Right. Start there because you're not going to put your shoes on and take them right off, right? You're going to put them on and be like, all right, I'll go check the mail. All right, well, I'll take the dog for a walk around the around the block. So it that is the catalyst to get you to do like a 20-minute walk. And so you do that a couple of times a week. I think that's a great place to start. You can expand that by doing it more times throughout the week, where you're doing, you know, a 20-minute walk six times a week, or if you only have three days, maybe go from 20 to 30 minutes and kind of progress um incrementally from there. Um, people who struggle with eating, food noise, overconsuming, um, overindulging, there's a lot of things that you can do to like physically stop you or slow you down, like putting your fork down in between bites and stuff like that. I find those to be more annoying than anything. And so what I'll do is sometime in the middle of the meal, I you know, you get to that point where you're like, I think I'm full. Most people stop. Also, people don't stop. And I definitely fell in the lighter camp to where now I'll I'll stop, I'll put the fork down, break that dopamine connection, right? Where I'm just constantly feeding myself. So I actually will break that connection by putting my food down and asking myself, am I still hungry? Or am I just trying to feed, you know, feed the dopamine? Um, and what would happen if I stop eating? And so if the answer is no, I'm not really hungry, I'm just trying to finish my plate. And if I stop eating, I will probably be fine. I'll push the plate away, right? I'm not throwing it away. I'm not getting rid of it. I'll just push it away. And more often than not, I finish eating before Tanya does, my fiance. And so I'll just sit and sit with her while she's eating. She gets mad at me because I watch her eat. And so then when, you know, as she's finishing up, I might revisit that plate. But more often than not, I'm done because you know it takes a little bit while it takes a little while for your mind and body to kind of connect, saying, I'm actually full. So then your body is getting a little bit of time to catch up. Um, that's how I try to help remove the food noise as far as like when we're eating, as far as like snacking. If you know you're after dinner, you're sitting around watching TV and you have those cravings for just something sweet. I have what I call the the late night craving survival kit, where it is starts off with a zero calorie soda, caffeine-free, of course, for at night. And then it'll be like a protein bar, something with chocolate, because that'll curb that. Those will both curb that sweet tooth. And then some kind of berries, fruit. I like berries because it allows me that that habitual. And so that whole kit is like 300 calories versus 1200 calories and ice cream. So there's contingencies that you can kind of put in place, steps that you can put um to help reduce the that food noise, but also to navigate that food noise.

Game Mechanics For Real-Life Change

SPEAKER_01

Perfect. And if you notice, it everything is with moderation, right? If I do any life change, you start with one life change. You don't go and just change your wardrobe, change your whole fridge, because then um, like you say, the dopamine head doesn't happen, and then you go in a spiral, which then you bounce back to worse than where you were. Um the other thing is if I'm a young adult or I'm a person that wants to um get out there, because you know, like our two podcasts kind of like cater to the same populations of like, you know, neurodivergency, nerdy, or just somebody that is a little more introvert than extrovert. Or you have, like in my case, the very highly extrovert people. But um what will you tell them? Because the hardest part for either the introvert or the extrovert is asking for help for their health, any health, right? Also, the medical system, which is a different uh podcast where we explore how the medical system actually keeps us even more sick because we don't go to the doctor for prevention, we go to result when it's exploding things. So, how do you recommend asking for help for your health in general? Or how to reach out for that community because how do we do that first step? Especially because you work with a lot of high intelligent males, but you know, like how? How do we help?

Free Resources And Yearlong Guide

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's a really good question. And it's a hard question, right? Uh a lot of I have noticed in my experiment of life that gamers are people pleasers to where they'll put other people first. And then it can be something like, all right, I'm gonna go for a walk. You get a text from Discord, you your boys are like, You online? You're like, damn, yeah, I am online. And I'm not gonna go for a walk because I'm gonna play games because I don't want to let my buddies down. And part of that, which I learned from a therapist, is not necessarily always wanting to put others first, but also not wanting to put become a burden to other people. So that's where asking for help comes from, or not asking for help comes from. What we do in as far as like our our ads, we make it stupid simple to where it's like, if this is you, DM me this particular word. Normally it's the word hero, and we'll have a conversation. And that way the ads are placed, you don't even have to type it. You just put you just hit the button. Yep, that's me. And I hit the word. So we try to really reduce the barrier to entry there. Um, but as far as like how can somebody in like a general general sense ask for help? That's a great question. I would say find somebody, again, who makes you feel heard, somebody that you know is not going to be overly judgmental, and then just say something along the lines of, um, I'm struggling. I like asking questions. So I'd be like, hey, what are your thoughts on this? I just read something on this. Like you can disconnect, right? I'm sure a lot of people, I have this friend, right? Everybody has a friend that's going through the exact same thing that you're doing. Um, so I have this friend that's blah, blah, blah. So try to create maybe a degree of separation while still gaining, gathering info on on what can be done to kind of help your situation. Um, and if it's on a more professional front, we'll we'll we'll do that through like the DMs on Instagram and stuff like that. Right.

Community CTA And Closing Reflections

SPEAKER_01

And I love, I I I hope everybody pay attention when he says he went to therapy or he's going to therapy. Having a therapist in your corner is like creating the justice leak for you. You have a fitness coach, you have your mental coach, I don't call it a lot, you have your therapist. For mental health, go with a therapist. And you may say I'm biased because I'm wand, but go with somebody that has some kind of learning in the thing that you're going through, right? Because do we have bad therapists? Yes, we do. Like we have bad coaches in fitness. But the point is you need a plethora of people in your corner to help you. Um, and also shout out to uh Jordan and his fiance. Um this is for all the ladies. I always hear, I don't find good men in the world. You know what is the best man ever? The nerds. The nerds of the geeks are the most loving, caring, and amazing human beings that you can have as friends or as partners. And I'm also biased because my partner is a nerd.

SPEAKER_00

So yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01

You know? So, Jordan, what will be your last uh nugget for our community? We dedicate here, our slogan is be kind, be loud, and create community. And be you, be your we're you, right? Because we're all we're uh in some sense. But what do you will tell anybody that is just listening here and saying, hmm, I want to improve, but I just really don't think nobody cares if I do because I'm not gonna improve too much. I just want to improve this little bit. Sure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. They say try to be 1% better each day, right? Um and if somebody's saying, uh, I think this is kind of what you're alluding to. If somebody's throwing their hands up in the air, like, what's the point? Why even bother? Um you don't need to improve for other people. Improve for yourself, right? Like if you say I want to improve, but nobody's gonna notice, cool. Improve for yourself because you're gonna notice, right? You are gonna always notice results before somebody else. And so I would say, do whatever that improvement looks like, whether it is physical, like we've been talking about, whether it is mental wellness, whether it's I want to write a book, come up, create the goal. I was having a conversation with my content manager about manifesting and vision boarding and how I don't like that because that's we're talking about that's that gives you that dopamine response without any of the action. And so creating the vision board is great because it creates that that point B, that finish line. But a lot of times people stop there and they don't retro engineer the steps to get from point A to point B. And so do that. It's like I want to lose 20 pounds. Cool, how are we gonna do that? We need to eat less and move more. Cliche. Cool. How do we do that? I need to work out three days a week and I need to maybe track my calories at a more moderate deficit. Cool. How are we gonna do that? I'm gonna go for a walk, I'm gonna do three 20-minute walks, and I'm gonna try to eat 80% whole foods, 20% allow me to indulge those. Cool. How are we gonna do that? So you just keep asking yourself, what do I need to do? So you're gonna keep chunking down to actionable steps until you're like, okay, 5 p.m. after work, Monday, Wednesday, Friday, I'm going home, putting my work back down and putting my walking shoes on and going for a walk. So where it's like everything is scheduled down to the exact minute. And then the same thing with like nutrition. I'm gonna plan my meals on Friday, I'm gonna go shopping on Saturday, and I'm gonna cook my meals on Sunday or whatever that looks like. And so those actionable steps are what yield big results, right? How do you eat an elephant one bite at a time? And that's how you have big results by having small actionable steps. So that would be my nugget. I know we talked about it earlier, but start with the smallest actionable step. Because you know, first level adventurers aren't fighting Tiamat, they're fighting rats in a cellar. And going for a walk is your rat in a cellar.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Not even. Like in I I that's why I love um video games. I teach, I teach the mechanics of video games in regular life. Meaning, you don't even go to the rats in the thing. You force it like, okay, do I press X? Where is X? And then you just practice doing the punch, right? And you don't judge yourself in that one. You just say, like, I'm practicing doing the punch that way now I can walk, right? I remember the first time that I played one RPG and I was stuck in this corner walking, and I couldn't like get out of the corner because you get stuck until you move the little thing to the other side. And then that's all I was doing, like dancing in circles. So I said that because a lot of the times we forget that our brain, even though it's an amazing machine, is very simplistic. And you have to treat it for any behavioral change or any life-changing things that are um palpable. I love uh vision boards for the sense of like, yeah, it's fun to do, but that's about it. Like, you know, it's a collage. Because, like you say, you have to engineer it backwards in order to know where you're gonna have the pitfalls. Because I can put my favorite thing is oh opportunity while training is just a wish, right? Because if you put it in there, I want a million dollars house, but I'm still in the same job and I'm acquiring no more skills and I don't know about money. There's so many barriers there that this is gonna shame me instead of helping me, right? And I will say use the avatar technology and create a new persona that you want and how you will think this inanimated thing to do the things that you want. Like how how you will video game it, pretty much. And Jordan, as always, uh, thank you so much for your having time for us to talk to the community. If we can um want to find you, where can we find you? Where is your um socials and where can we hire you?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. The best place is gonna be Instagram. That's where our my biggest digital footprint is. And the hand my handle is just at my name, Jordan Yacklin. And so that's the best place. I have a website that's borderline a relic right now. And so Instagram will be the best place. And if you go to my Instagram, you'll see in our bio is our Discord. Um, if you want to check that out, there's a lot of free resources, including um this one year beginner's handbook. And so it's got a lot of things in it. I know a lot, like we talked about, a lot of people don't know where to start. This could be a good resource for you in there. And so go ahead and join that. And if you have any questions, DM me on Instagram. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

SPEAKER_01

What is that?

SPEAKER_00

Show it. My one year's beginner's handbook. It's got a full-year workout program, um, 40 high protein recipes, cooking and shopping guide, and a sleep guide. And there's I think there's something else in it too. I forget.

SPEAKER_01

Oh my goodness, that is so awesome. And they get it if they join your program?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the the ebook, the ebook's free. This is a kind of a combination of um a handful of ebooks that are actually back there. And so um, this is the ebook version is free. I just printed it off because I wanted to use it for content purposes. And so um, it's most of it has artwork, some of it doesn't. Like the workouts are print friendly, and so there's like 172 workouts in here, meant to be like printed off. I take this to the gym with me or I take it home. It works from it's the couch to gym rat training program. So it works from body weight stuff all the way up to intermediate gym workouts um throughout 12 months. And so the good thing is you can kind of figure out what level you're at and then just stick there um and then repeat those workouts for a while.

SPEAKER_01

I got the awesome. Well, that was amazing. Thank you so much for listening to us. Um, uh, as a thank you for everybody that is listening, I would love for you guys to go to uh Jordan Instagram, put or oasis, and just go and tell your nerd friends that there is a workout that looks like a DD book. How cool is that! Thank you so much, everybody. Thank you, Jordan, and as always, stay connected, stay kind, and be loud and be your we yourself. Thank you so much, and I see you next time.

SPEAKER_00

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_01

As we conclude today's episode, take a moment to reflect, be proud of the journey for every step that brings you closer to who you truly are. Embrace the kindness towards yourself as you did to each one of our guests. Honor the bravery in your actions and celebrate the importance of mental wellness with us. And remember, it's an exercise that we practice daily. Continue to grow and flourish, knowing that we are in this training for our mental wellness together. We are so proud to have you as part of our community. So join us on Instagram at Oroasis Community Podcast for more inspiring conversations, valuable resources, and supported content, including journals, worksheets, and content in Spanish. Exciting things are in the horizon, Oroasis Community break rooms are coming soon. To grab tools and take a break for your mental health. Also, we are featuring our six-month training ethical mental health coaching program designed for new and experienced coaches as well as holistic and healing professionals. Enroll to create a safe and transformative experience to your clients. Links in the bio. Until next time, take care, stay connected, and welcome to our OASIS community.