Down the Security Rabbithole Podcast (DtSR)
This is Cybersecurity's premier podcast. Running strong since 2011 Rafal Los, James Jardine, and Jim Tiller bring a no-nonsense, non-commercial approach to our profession. DtSR brings interviews and discussion with people you want to meet, and stories you have to hear. So whether you're just starting out, or are decades deep into your career, you'll always learn something on this show.
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Episodes
712 episodes
DtSR Episode 675 - Trey Ford on the Mind of CISOs
TL;DR: If you've ever wondered what goes through the mind of a top-tier CISO, wonder no longer. This week's episode features Trey Ford talking a little nostalgia, and a little of w...
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Season 16
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Episode 675
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46:16
DtSR Episode 674 - 3rd Party Risk is a Mess
TL;DR: Let's talk, err, lament, Third Party Risk programs. Who has time for these, and is there any real value in identifying 3rd party risks? Or is it just all theater for the lawyers?
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Season 16
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Episode 674
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44:56
DtSR Episode 673 - Crash Out to Cash Out
TL;DR: This week's episode is what happens when I go on vacation and have a little time to think. So here we go - let's talk about this Jaguar Land Rover was compromised and ransomware spread. The damage has been 'extensive' t...
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Season 16
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Episode 673
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43:13
DtSR Episode 672 - DFARS CMMC Update Insights
TL;DR: This podcast features our friend Bo Birdwell who sits down with us to explain the ins and outs of the new DFARS CMMS update. Jim and Bo cover a lot of ground, and James and I a...
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Season 16
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Episode 672
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39:01
DtSR Episode 671 - It's The End of the Internet As We Know It
TL;DR: This week's returning guest is Doug Cavit, but this time he's here to talk about the Internet apocalypse. Partly driven by AI, but mostly we discuss automated content gener...
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Season 16
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Episode 671
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40:58
DtSR Episode 670 - Ethics Equity and Rock Star CISOs
TL;DR: Michael Reichstein joins the pod this week to talk about "rock star CISOs" and those who trade equity for their souls. It's an interesting discussion but this one comes with a...
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Season 15
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Episode 670
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40:57
DtSR Episode 669 - ADR Enters the SOC Chat
TL;DR: This week's pod features our favorite former analyst Anton Chuvakin, and an AppSec OG Jeff Williams as we tackle the subject of AppSec's favorite new acronym - ADR. What is it? Why is it? Should it be? We answer all these question...
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Season 15
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Episode 669
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43:26
DtSR Episode 668 - Actionable Crowd Sourced Defenses
TL;DR: This week's returning guest is the man, the myth, the Alpaca farmer, Philippe Humeau of CrowdSec. Life comes at you fast, threats come at you faster. The good news is ...
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Season 15
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Episode 668
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38:53
DtSR Episode 667 - Market Consolidation is Screwing the CISO
TL;DR: This week's guest is Dr Sam Liles - who's been CISO'ing since most of us have been in the industry. Sam gets it, and he has some perspective on what's going on with all this marke...
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Season 15
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Episode 667
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49:59
DtSR Episode 665 - From Black Hat 2025 with Exhaustion
TL;DR: This week's show is a testament to surviving a week of Hacker Summer Camp out in Las Vegas. I have an interview with Ray Canzanese, Jr. (again, because y...
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Season 15
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Episode 665
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29:12
DtSR Episode 664 - Everything You Wanted to Know About RaffCon
** Early release, due to Black Hat Conference and RaffCon XVIII.TL;DR: This episode is all about #RaffCon. Ever wanted to know what the heck it is? Well, Raffael Marty...
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Season 15
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Episode 664
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32:31
DtSR Episode 663 - The CISO and CIO Relationship
TL;DR: This is one of the most important episodes we've done on this podcast. The CISO and CIO have a complicated, dynamic, and often ugly relationship - but what should it be like? How can the two work together an...
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Season 15
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Episode 663
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40:14
DtSR Episode 662 - Why Customer Success is Difference Maker
TL;DR: This week's conversation is all about the Customer Success team featuring Nick Puetz and Steve Dakhe. Th...
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Season 15
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Episode 662
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44:55
DtSR Episode 661 - Insights Into the Startup Mindset
TL;DR: This week we took a sit-down with serial entrepreneur, Will Gragido. Will has been a part of several innovative start-ups, and is now onto his next one. He's a product innova...
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Season 15
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Episode 661
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40:04
DtSR Episode 660 - Sam Masiello
TL;DR: Did you miss us? Yes, we're back with Sam Masiello and we're talking about whatever is on his mind. Well ...there's geopolitics and Iranian hackers and frankly we need to t...
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Season 15
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Episode 660
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39:38
DtSR Episode 659 - LinkedIn Cyber Influencers are Funny
TL;DR: This week's episode came from my (Rafal) brain. I've been reading far too much LinkedIn, and the "influencer" postings have been making me crazy. So, here we are. We talk through some of these posts, many of which are A...
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Season 15
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Episode 659
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42:15
DtSR Episode 658 - What Does It Mean to Secure AI (Part 4)
TL;DR: On this episode, part 4 of our AI series, we are once again joined by Raja Mukerji, Jeff Collins, and
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Season 15
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Episode 658
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47:56
DtSR Episode 657 - Cyber-Security Use-Cases for AI (Part 3)
TL;DR: This week I bring John Dickson back to join Jeff Collins and
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Season 15
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Episode 657
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43:31
DtSR Episode 656 - Deeper Down the AI Rabbithole Part 2
TL;DR: This week John Dickson returns to go deeper down the AI rabbit hole with special guest Erik Bloch as we di...
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Season 15
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Episode 656
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44:20
DtSR Episode 655 - John Dickson Down the AI Rabbithole Part 1
TL;DR: So - Artificial Intelligence (AI)...incomprehensible good, or catastrophic evil? Both? And what does that depend on? This episode is the start of a series wherein we explore the potential good or bad of AI, what the dependenc...
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Season 15
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Episode 655
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51:15
DtSR Episode 654 - Can We Teach Machines Discretion?
TL;DR: This week's episode asks the question - is it possible to give AI "discretion" (which feels like a uniquely human concept)? And if so - what would that look like, and how can this help a society that's hurling headlong into an AI ...
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Season 15
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Episode 654
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43:12
DtSR Episode 653 - Rich Latayan Live and In Person
TL;DR: On this "live on the scene" episode from Zero Trust World 2025 sponsored by Threat Locker - I have the distinct pleasure to speak with Rich Latayan about his career leading big-company security programs as CISO and his current end...
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Season 15
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Episode 653
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18:29
DtSR Episode 652 - RSA Conf 2025 Wrap with Ray Canzanese, Jr.
TL;DR: As per the usual, this year's RSA Conference 2025 wrap-up is with my friend Ray Canzanese, Jr. We sit in the beautiful sunshine atop the Moscone Center (gardens) and have an interesting, conversation about a number of interesting ...
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Season 15
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Episode 652
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29:33