Transforming Trauma into Empowerment: Cher Hayes on Healing and Self-Discovery

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Discover the remarkable journey of Cher Hayes, a transformational facilitator and life coach with over three decades of experience in guiding individuals toward healing and empowerment. Her compelling story is one of resilience, having overcome a childhood marked by adversity, abuse, and trauma. Cher's profound encounters with luminaries like Deepak Chopra and her global adventures in mind-body medicine have not only enriched her understanding but have also fueled her dedication to helping others transform their pain into positive change.

More about Cher: 

Cher is a seasoned Transformational Facilitator and Life Coach, with over 30 years of experience in providing one-on-one sessions, keynote speeches, and developing multi-day Mind/Body/Spirit workshops. As the founder and program director of Revive Ranch, a safe house and reprogramming center for women and children, she has a long history of assisting in the process
of healing, transforming, and empowering individuals. Cher has also owned a yoga school, taught meditation, and is an international best-selling author of One Only: Awaken to THE Relationship, a book offering life transforming tools and techniques for mental, emotional, physical, and spiritual well-being. Additionally, she co-authored the #1 International Best Seller, How Big Can You Dream Journal, designed to inspire personal growth and the pursuit of one's dreams. Born into a family of metaphysicians, Cher was introduced to meditation at a young age and has maintained a strong connection to spiritual dimensions beyond the physical realm. Known for her empathic abilities, she helps clients identify and release energetic blockages and trauma in a single session. Throughout her life, Cher has traveled the world, seeking the most effective ways to clear limiting beliefs and heal traumas. She has studied with leading figures in Mind/Body Medicine, acquired numerous certifications, and worked with clients in private practice. After two years of
global challenges, Cher has returned to offering personalized sessions, workshops, and community connections, both online and in person. Her deep love for life and people, combined with her expertise, continues to inspire and empower those she serves.

Chapters

• 0:00 Empowerment Through Adversity
• 7:38 Healing the Inner Child
• 14:57 Finding Balance and Self-Empowerment
• 27:11 Personal Empowerment and Self-Reflection

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:00

Welcome to I Feel you, season 7, where we dive into real raw conversations about mental health, resilience and personal growth. I'm your host, bettina Mahoney, here to guide you through stories that inspire, challenge and empower. Please know this podcast may touch on sensitive topics and is not a substitute for professional mental health advice. If you or someone you know needs support, please reach out to a mental health professional. Now let's dive into today's episode. I'm so excited to welcome Cher Hayes.

Speaker 2: 0:38

Cher is a seasoned transformational facilitator and life coach with over 30 years of experience. She provides one-on-one sessions, keynote speeches and multi-day mind-body-spirit workshops. As a founder of Revive Ranch, a safe house and reprogramming center for women and children, share assists in healing and empowering individuals. She's an international bestselling author of One Only Awaken to the Relationship and co-authored the number one international bestseller how Big Can you Dream Journals. Raised in a family of metaphysicians, cher has practiced meditation since childhood and is known for her empathetic abilities to help clients release energetic blockages and trauma. She has traveled extensively, studied mind-body medicine, earned numerous certifications and worked globally with clients. Cher is now back to offering personalized sessions and workshops, both online and in person, continuing to inspire and empower her clients with her expertise and passion for life. Please welcome, cher Hayes. Hi. Thank you so much for coming on today.

Speaker 3: 1:54

How are you? Thank you, I'm wonderful. Thank you, I'm happy to be here.

Speaker 2: 1:58

When you take away all of your titles, including mother, including business owner, who are you?

Speaker 3: 2:05

your titles, including mother, including business owner. Who are you? That's an interesting question because I have difficulty with who are you. I'm more into what am I than who am I, and I like to always go back to. I feel that I'm an individual expression of the source of creation and I feel that we're all, we're all connected by that one expression, but a slightly different version of it. So I'd say I'm back.

Speaker 2: 2:32

Was there an adversity in your life that got you into the place that you're in today?

Speaker 3: 2:38

Oh, definitely yes, and what I I mean from my experience from doing this type of work, and even my life experience, is that, like in your situation, the first things that we go through is what brings us to the work that we're doing Right, and so it's beautiful. I mean, you've gone through, you've gone through and you've had your healing and now you want to share with others. I feel everything that I've been through in my life has also done the same thing. Everything that I've been through in my life has also done the same thing. And so when I was a child, yes, I also experienced child molestation from both my father and my brother. My mother left him and then married and a very abusive man. So I was violence in my early childhood, watching the abuse of my mother, silence in my, you know, early childhood, watching the abuse of my mother. And when I went off to learn the things that I've learned in my life, it was really to help, like my first thing was helping women in those types of situations, you know. And so I feel that, because I went through that situation, it was my drive to do the work that I've been doing and and it's um, and and as a therapist you know I've been a therapist for over 30 years. I always said, because I've been through so much, I mean so much in my life um, that I can relate to almost everybody that comes to my office, because I've been through that and I feel to be a good therapist, that really it really helps a lot to be able to do that. I actually had to run away from home because of the abuse. You know, coming home one day seeing my mother laying bloodied, with broken ribs, you know, on the ground, I just couldn't take it anymore. So I ran away and it makes it springing, you know, you still feel it and, as you know, it's an ongoing. We're all, no matter what we've been through. All of our life is an ongoing process, right? So we're processing stuff constantly. And so I just had this strong drive.

Speaker 3: 4:39

I was an avid reader and I started reading different mythologies and ways to heal, and I came from a family also that's a long story, but anyway, I just started. Once I decided this is what I want to do. I was just like obsessed with finding the best ways to heal and I became I call myself an info junkie. I wanted to read every book, I wanted to learn every mythology, every technology. I was just obsessed with learning the best way to heal myself and then in turn heal others, and so I traveled the world.

Speaker 3: 5:12

I started traveling when I was 17, just lived on my own, step-by-step, it just happened, went to different places in the world learning spiritual healings, mind-body medicine. I met Deepak Chopra when my 20s. He was like new, you know, in the whole mind-body medicine. I met Deepak Chopra when my 20s. He was like new, you know, in the whole mind-body medicine and he was my mentor at that time. And so you just kind of like, go to the next step and the next step and the next step, and it just brings you that way. Once you put yourself in that direction and say this is my intention, this is what I want, then it all just starts to unfold as you go. And it's funny because I used to think that, you know, I would end my info junkie thing, but it never ends. You know, I'm still always looking, love to learn the newest, best way to help myself and clients in the process of life, you know, and healing.

Speaker 2: 5:59

Thank you so much for sharing and being vulnerable with me. I you know, whenever I share my story and someone says I'm sorry, I hate when people say that. So I'm not saying that to you because I like to treat people the way I would want to be treated. I don't like when people say I'm sorry. I want to celebrate you and and tell you that, like you're in such a safe place and I am so proud of how far you've come and the work that you're doing to help people.

Speaker 2: 6:24

It matters, and I know that I'd love to hear more about your ranch. I know that you have a ranch and you've worked with women that you know obviously have had a lot of struggle in their lives and I'm curious for you. You know you talk about having to sort of read about, you know, wellness practices, and that was one of the things I was doing because it felt like we had a surplus of offerings, especially with technology. And now you know, here you are at that time when you were struggling. There's so many other women that are struggling and they don't know where to turn to, they don't know where to get the help and I'm like why is there not one thing on one platform, and that's why I created Fortify. But I'm curious for you working with women. What are you seeing now in the wellness industry that's lacking? What do they need that they're not getting, and why do you think they're not able to get it?

Speaker 3: 7:16

Where I am now and through we're talking so many different things, like I wrote a book on it, you know, giving all my years of the best techniques that I've come up with in that one book, so they can read that and learn to do it, because where I'm at now, which is to me most important, is turning within. Okay, so, first of all, my new project is called my Emerge Mentor and so what I do in the beginning because it's you know, when you go through trauma, especially at a young child age, or any trauma, it's deep inside the subconscious, ok, and we don't want to face it, man, we have, it's our protective mechanism. You know, our subconscious is our protective mechanism. It protects us and it gives us these beliefs also that in turn hinder us from being what we're meant to be, right. So my first thing is to go into and I would suggest to anybody is going in and cleansing and healing the subconscious mind and the false beliefs, because that's what's in there, and then healing the, you know, the heart and working with that and combining those. So it's a process, but most importantly is doing the inner child work, because the inner child work is really the beginning. You know, I'm actually my studies is child psychology. When I had to go to school to have a degree, I did that because it all starts there, right? So to go in and re-empower that child. So I would say that's one of the first steps is re-integrating, first re-empowering. So there's techniques in my book it gives those techniques to go in and there's all kinds of stuff out there to learn this.

Speaker 3: 9:01

But child healing, you know, going in and doing that and then re-empowering and then integrating that child, because that's huge, that's like one of the biggest things. Or even not just the child I mean the child is most important but like, even if you were, if you had your situation later, you know some kind of traumatic situation later, even going into that time when it happened, you can change the whole story of that time, right, because it's really just a story that we created in our minds from that experience. And so it's to go in there and change that story and re-empower the story, Because you know the mind only knows what you put in there, right? So it's changing the stories.

Speaker 3: 9:50

Re-empowering is most important as a being. And then tuning in and trusting yourself again, right, because then once you get to that place, then you can listen to yourself, because we know no one knows better than each individual what's right for them. You know what I'm saying, so that's the biggest. Most important thing I'm really focused on right now is changing the stories, healing the heart, integrating the child and then trusting the self.

Speaker 2: 10:28

I think that's beautiful and at Fortify we talk a lot about healing the inner child. Do you mind diving into for the audience, like what healing the inner child means, what kind of work that is the?

Speaker 3: 10:39

way I do it. There's all different ways to do it, you know, but the way I do it with a person when I have a client is I bring them. It's a semi-hypnosis, you know, when you're working with them. So I bring them into a semi-hypnosis. The body knows where to go right, the mind-body system knows what's in there and if you could, it could feel safe enough to go in there, which I'm very good at. That is creating that safe space. So if you could, if they can feel safe enough to go into that time. You know I'm saying where it's.

Speaker 3: 11:13

Actually, I have a lot of times I have the older you, the one that's made it through, you know, go in there to the one that went through that trauma, right, and help that one, say we made it, we're good, we're safe now, right, and then to work with that one, the one that's, you know, been violated, right, and then say are you ready to move on? Are you ready to change the story? Yeah, and then you work with the older one, you, the empowered one, you, the one that's now feeling good doing what the work you're doing, you know, but even even someone, like anyone that's made it through and they're ready to go in with the therapy or a thing. They're ready. They're just saying, okay, I've made it through, I know I made it through, I can go in there and I can say we've made it through, and it changes everything so quickly. It's really amazing how it works.

Speaker 2: 12:15

It's beautiful work. It takes a lot of guts and a lot of bravery to be able to look in the mirror and do that work. It can be very painful work. I have done that work but yes, yes, and it's so important, I mean because you know I wouldn't be able to do this work if I didn't, you know, do my own work, you know, and because that's important, you know you have to be able to look in the mirror and it's a constant process. You know I have soul coaching, my own soul coach, I have therapists, you know, and it's so important to be able to continuously work on yourself because you will get to a point where there were skill sets you had at the time to get you through the trauma, that saved you through the trauma. Then you have to level it up and learn some new skill sets and then you have to level it up again and the work just never ends.

Speaker 2: 13:03

And that's okay, you know. It's okay because once you get to a place I used to be in a place where I was so depressed I couldn't even life felt very dark. And we're not here to just survive, we're here to just live our, you know, thrive, live our best lives and get, be happy over the little things. Like I am pumped up about pumpkin spice, like we're in pumpkin spice season, and that makes me so happy. I love soundbats, I love forming new relationships with people, I like meeting new people, like yourself, and that makes me happy. The little things make me happy. The big things make me happy. But I know now that, no matter what happens, even if the big things don't work out the way that I want them to, I'm still okay because I'm balanced. You know, and that is such an incredible place to be, and that's what I strive for our clients to feel is that they feel a worthy enough to do the work. It starts with needing to do the work and then be that they want to stick it out because they realize that it's worth it. I'm worth it. And that's also sending a message to your younger self, your inner child, saying you're worthy to heal, we're going to get through this together, and that's something that's so powerful.

Speaker 2: 14:22

And I think, when people think about healing, self-care is used a lot on social media self-care, self-care I'm going to go to the mall, I'm going to go to the spa that's not self-care and I'm always saying that that's not self-care. Self-care is hopping on a session with someone like yourself or hopping on a session with somebody else and going I'm ready to do this work. It's self-care. When the things that used to trigger you don't trigger you anymore, that's self-care. And I noticed that over the progression of time is like the things that used to upset me, they don't upset me anymore. It's about you know nervous system regulation and being able to balance that out and being able to apply it. So I'm very big on application, being able to apply what you learn. So I'm curious for you when you do this work with your clients, how do you help them apply it into daily life?

Speaker 3: 15:16

Oh, I have a step by step and I'm with them once a week. So those you know, and it's just a step by step process wherever they're at. We just kind of work with wherever they're at. You know what I'm saying. So the most important I love that you say this I mean one, the word balance, because balance is in the healing, the nervous system. All these things that you're saying are so important. But you know, all of creation is always working towards balance, right? So the exterior and the interiors, it is all working towards that balance.

Speaker 3: 15:44

And the self-help that you're talking about is like, again, doing the routines, like the planner that I just finished today. You know that gets you in the morning, the thing before you even open your eyes. You know you're visualizing what your day is going to be like. You know what I'm saying. So it's working with the power of visualization, because that's actually how creation works. So, using that, and then it gives the, it gives all the different all through the day. You have the three minute you know rule where the alarm goes off, and then you readjust, you check on yourself, you write down your notes, so there's all kinds of things that you can work on when you make that, like you said.

Speaker 3: 16:24

The most important thing is people ask me share what kind of people come to you? You know what kind of people come to you and I always say anybody and anybody, but it has to be someone that's ready. What kind of people come to you? And I always say anybody and anybody, but it has to be someone that's ready, right. So you made that, like you said. It takes courage. You made that decision and said I'm ready, I want this. You know, I want to heal, right, Me too.

Speaker 3: 16:45

So I made that choice at a young age. I said, hey, I want to heal. I don't want this in me. It doesn't feel good in my body. I don't want this in me, it doesn't feel good in my body. You know what I'm saying. I want to heal this. So it takes that choice to say I'm ready, I want this, I'm going to do this. And then all the different things come your way. Life just gives you, when you see you're ready, all the different ways come your way. That's right for you. You know everything's different. Like people ask me Cher, what about meditation? Well, there's all kinds. I've done so many different ones, but when you tune into yourself, you'll find the one that's right for you at this time. But then that's like again, the process of re-empowerment, then trusting that within you will bring to you exactly what's right for you in that time, right Like I'm sure you've done and you've found.

Speaker 2: 17:34

It's true when you love life, life will love you back, and I used to roll my eyes at that, but it's so true.

Speaker 2: 17:39

When you manifest the things that you want, the universe really rewards you, and I've seen it myself and with other people, and I think it can be so challenging because we're overstimulated with technology and ironically, we're aimulated with technology, you know, and ironically we have. You know, we're a technology company, we have a digital wellness app, so I understand that the irony. I think leaning into technology in a way that's helpful can be really good. But I'm curious for you do you find that the people that you work with, do you think that technology and the overstimulation of technology has impacted them in their, in their overall wellness, on their day to day when it comes to like self-worth and and self, you know, low self-worth.

Speaker 3: 18:23

Oh my gosh. If you go into everybody knows this, I mean Instagram and Facebook and all that stuff with self-worth, especially the young people it's just unfortunately not a healthy thing, because you get into the comparison thing, you know, and you want to get out of that. You know we're all individuals. We all have our special. We want to again tune in again. What is your special, unique gift? You know we all have a special, unique gift. Instead of comparing and wanting to be like others or you know how you look and all that stuff, the importance. So, yeah, I think that's really that those kind of social media things are extremely harmful, especially to the vulnerable younger people, but it's just extremely harmful.

Speaker 3: 19:07

And technology, yes, you know, we get glued to, you know that, and then we don't sit within ourselves and listen to ourselves if we're glued to some kind of technology and that's even, you know, when I wrote the book, I was wanting to actually get out of techniques again and just like it's so important, just to. The most important I would say is just to meditate every day in the morning and just tune into. You, get to know. You get to know what you feel like inside, get to feel your feelings. That's why you know I'm on the planner, you know it has you checking in. You know all throughout the day how am I feeling and write about that. But you know, don't suppress it and just really getting to know who you are. But yes, I agree, I totally think. Sorry to say that, you know, I know you have your tech, but you know it's, it's good. There's good and bad to everything, right. So, like you said, you found the good to it having these apps that can help people, but having also the time off.

Speaker 2: 20:05

You're in Africa right now. I want to hear more about that and how you kind of go off the grid and you fly around the world.

Speaker 3: 20:12

You know it's like I said I was telling you earlier. You know, the first two months that I was here was based on working on my newest project, but I always, always, always, between three and four, go out on the grass under the sun and connect with the earth, connect with the power of the sun, the life force of the sun, and I just bring that in and rejuvenate myself after being on screen, making myself every single day, you know. And so nature, the earth, the sun, water, all of that is so extremely important to me. Animals, you know, I couldn't, I would suffocate, I would probably die if I didn't wasn't able to do that. You know, to have that connection I'm, fortunate enough I'm from Hawaii, so I grew up in a wonderful place and being in the water every day and I'm just blessed to have that.

Speaker 3: 21:12

But even people that are stuck in cities I just I did an interview with a woman who was stuck in San Francisco and she's trying to bring in these urban, you know, into the, into corporate areas where people can go around trees and, you know, sit and meditate and do that. So that's luckily they're bringing that into. She's like designing these urban areas, you know, these inside there, the forest, like inside these places. So, anyway, it's extremely important for me, and it always has been, to be in nature and to be around animals and to be in. You know it's, it's it's life, it's the life force in these places. So it's just, I have to, I always have and I always will have to connect to that and be around that and and I've, and again, I've created my life that way. You know, we are creators of our life.

Speaker 3: 22:07

That's another thing about what I teach, you know, and show in my, my mentor project, showing people how we're already master creators. Everything you are experiencing you're creating right. You're in Parts of you, in your it's all layers, but anyway, we go through what we go through on soul level to become what we become right, and so we're in that. So when we tune into our soul's desires and we follow that again, trusting that, then we realize how empowered we are, that we can make the choices, like you have to bring out, you know, take a negative into a positive you know what I'm saying and and make and help use that to empower others like what you have. So that's just what life is all about, and so I, I do that, I live what I teach. You know, I live what I teach.

Speaker 2: 23:06

And what do you say to the woman? That's like I don't know where to start in that creation process. I have no idea how to start being the creator of my own life. I know it's a big question, but what's the first step to going? I'm going to start.

Speaker 3: 23:21

Again. So again, like with the planner, helps that. So, um, meditation, going into yourself, feeling again, going back to even how you were as a child and seeing what was I really into. You know what did I love? What is, what do I really love? So it's again tuning into self and getting to know self and what are the things I love. And follow what you love, Right, follow it, but you have to trust Remember I keep talking about trust then you get trust inside yourself, knowing that if you start to follow what you love, then you create the life that you want. You mold it and create it in imagination. It's humongous, huge. Learn about that, you guys. You know anybody listening to this study about on imagination, the power of imagination, you know, because that's how we create. You have to imagine making this computer. Someone imagined at first Making this pillow. Someone imagined at first right, you imagined your whole platform you're doing before you did it right. So let's imagine ways exactly the way we want it.

Speaker 2: 24:28

Yeah, I agree, I think that manifestation imagination. When we were children, we would play pretend all the time. This is so funny. Until I was three or four years old, I didn't have any hair and so I thought the same thing a little kid with leopard pants on my head, tying it in with a nice like little ponytail. And I have those pictures of myself, you know, around my apartment because I'm like I never want to let that part of myself go, that part that just didn't care what people thought about me.

Speaker 2: 25:12

And there were people that would say to my parents, like what are you doing? Like why are you letting her? And they'd just be like she's expressing herself. You know, she's only three, she's only four, you know. And they always one of the things I really love that my parents said they always allowed me to just be myself and express myself and tell me that I could do most anything if I worked hard. And I think there's something to that, the way that we talk to children, the way that we allow them to use their imagination and express themselves. They need that for development, they need that for growth and it travels with them. I think that part of themselves will always travel with them into adulthood.

Speaker 3: 25:47

Right, Right, If you allow it, like you said, and foster it. And so it's allowing it and fostering it. You were fortunate to have parents that did that with you, and most people didn't have that, you know. And so they have to take away everything, the layers that are not that anymore, everything they collected, what they're supposed to be, right. So that's the first thing is cleansing the mind, right? So take away all the layers that you were told you're supposed to be or that are false beliefs about yourself that aren't true, disempowering beliefs, and then and then come back to who you truly are.

Speaker 2: 26:25

Yeah, I agree, and there's so many women that come onto this podcast that deal with imposter syndrome, limiting beliefs, and sometimes I even deal with that, and so I think one of the things and I'd love to hear your thoughts on this but one of the things they do now is you can do this. I talk to myself in the mirror. I'm like you can do this, and it's the inner child going wait, are you sure that we can do this? And it's like, yes, yes, I got it now, you know, and it's a very healing process. I'm curious for you have you dealt with imposter syndrome even at this stage of your life, with the work that you do?

Speaker 3: 27:07

I mean this imposter syndrome is interesting to me because this is all. You know, I'm older, I'm a lot older and we didn't even talk about that in my days. But I mean, to me the imposter is everything we collected that's not us, Right, and I've always been me. I mean too much so to where I've always been a rebel against. You know what they told me I'm supposed to be because I've been on my own, you know I pretty much even when you're in a household, that's that that was abusive, like mine was. I pretty much raised myself, Right. So that's a positive to that is I didn't have that program of how I'm supposed to be. You know, I'm saying so. That's the positive that, because I was just always just the raw, crazy me that just said, OK, I'm just going to go, take off and live my life on my own. You don't have no idea how I'm going to do it, but I'm going to do it. So, yeah, so, but self talk is huge what you're saying, because this is one of the huge things I teach.

Speaker 3: 28:01

When you said what do you have people do throughout? You know the like the week in between, and it's listening to self. So, and I have a technique in the book that teaches, called the bubble technique. So when you hear, listen to yourself talk, you know, listen to what you say to others and then ask yourself is that true? Is that really true you know, for me? Is that benefiting me, Right? And if it's not, take it out and I put it in the bubble and blow it away, and then you have to always replace it with something that is true. So it's beautiful that you do that, you know empowering self-talk, but we need to listen to the false beliefs, listen to ourselves talk and hear what we're saying, or even hear what people are throwing at you. You know what people are saying to you, how, oh, you can't do that, or no, that's not going to work, or you know, just okay, Thank you, you know, but no, thank you yeah.

Speaker 2: 28:56

It comes with confidence too. For me it's like there's certain people you know over the course of my life that have said things, and then you, as you get confidence, you're like I, I might not need that anymore, you know.

Speaker 1: 29:03

And then you, you don't it's not a thing.

Speaker 2: 29:05

You just kind of toss it to the side and and you don't give in to those types of interactions anymore. You know, um, you've mentioned your planner a lot. I'm curious do you have anything coming up that you want to share with the audience?

Speaker 3: 29:19

yeah, so the planner is because I just finished it today, so I'm a little excited about it and it has it has all these like stages. You know that help people throughout every single day you to wake up with it, you're through the day with it and then you go to sleep with it. You know it gives you things to do to get to again, to re empower yourself, right, and to change those thought patterns. So that it's called the empowered you planner and it'll be on Amazon coming up soon, so the powered you planner. And then the book that I wrote that actually gives all the techniques, that which I said I was an info junkie, right. So it gives all those, the most powerful techniques that people in my field would all agree upon, you know, most agree upon and it's called One Only Awaken to the Relationship. So that one's the book and I wrote that.

Speaker 3: 30:07

Actually, when I was going to stop doing clients, I said here, here, read this and you could do it on yourself because, like you said, it's a never ending process but you get to the point where it's kind of fun, like this is me, I'm learning more about me, that's what I'm doing in this life anyway, right, becoming more of me becoming a better version of me every day, right. And so then you get to love it. You know saying yeah, if you have a little hiccup about oh there, well, that was a weird like I have them. You know, like whatever thing. Oh, I didn't even know that was still there. I still had that reaction. You know inside me. And then you go inside and you go what is this about? You know, and you trace it back and you cleanse it, so it gives those things. And then the other last one I have is my mindmergementorcom. That's my 12-week total transformation project that I'm doing.

Speaker 2: 30:58

That's beautiful, and if you want to send me the links to those items, I can add them into the show notes. I'm happy to do that. I'm very excited to look into it a lot more.

Speaker 3: 31:07

You are incredible.

Speaker 2: 31:08

Thank you for your vulnerability. We always ask this final question. It's always fun to hear everyone's answer In one word what do you want to be remembered for Me? I love that. Thank you so much for joining me in your vulnerability. I appreciate you, Thank you.

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