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Alex Wong - The Truth About What It Really Takes to Win

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Alex Wong shares his journey from classical ballet training to viral content creator, revealing how his "negatively positive" personality and immigrant work ethic shaped his remarkable career across multiple entertainment fields.

• Born in Canada and classically trained in ballet, Alex made history as the first Canadian to win the Prix de Lausanne
• Despite a career-threatening Achilles injury, Alex pivoted to explore other talents including singing and acting
• Alex describes his approach to excellence: doing more than what others are willing to do
• His immigrant parents instilled strong work ethic while allowing him to pursue dance professionally
• Growing up as one of few male dancers taught him to forge his own path and find comfort in his body
• Alex's content creation career grew naturally, especially during the pandemic
• He maintains balance through his naturally high threshold for stress and ability to quickly address problems
• His TikTok content (2.7M followers) reflects his naturally happy, comedic personality rather than a strategic plan
• Physical touch and acts of service are his primary love languages that help maintain his work-life balance

More about Alex:

Alex Wong is a Canadian-born dancer, singer, and actor whose career spans ballet, Broadway, television, and music. Beginning tap and jazz training at age seven and later studying ballet with the Goh Ballet Academy, Alex quickly rose to prominence—winning two Junior World Titles in Tap and Showdance, earning the Royal Academy of Dancing Solo Seal, and becoming the first Canadian to win the prestigious Prix de Lausanne in 2004.

He danced with American Ballet Theatre and Miami City Ballet, where he was promoted to principal soloist. Turning down a promotion to pursue So You Think You Can Dance (SYTYCD), Alex became a fan favorite but faced multiple Achilles injuries that sidelined him twice. His resilience led to a triumphant return to performing, with credits including Smash, Glee, Dancing With the Stars, and Disney’s Tony Award-winning Newsies on Broadway.

Alex has performed on The Ellen Show, The Voice, and in international commercials and music videos, released his own single “Crave,” and been invited as a guest speaker at top universities. Known for his versatility, charisma, and determination, he continues to inspire as a multi-talented performer who overcame potentially career-ending setbacks to thrive across multiple entertainment platforms.

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Speaker 1:

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Speaker 1:

I am so excited to welcome my friend, alex Wong, who is a dancer, choreographer and viral content creator. Born in Canada and classically trained in ballet, he made history as the first Canadian to win the Prix de Lausanne and went on to perform with American Ballet Theatre and Miami City Ballet. He rose to national fame on so you Think you Can Dance, where his performances earned Emmy recognition, even after a serious injury cut his season short. Since then, alex has appeared on Broadway Glee Smash, the Ellen Show and Dancing with the Stars. Today, he's also a beloved digital creator with over 2.7 million followers on TikTok, blending dance, comedy and heart. I am so excited for you to hear this conversation. Let's welcome Alex. Hi Alex, thank you for joining me today.

Speaker 2:

Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

How are you?

Speaker 2:

I'm good. I'm a little sleepy, but I'm good.

Speaker 1:

I love that. So you've lived so many lives and you have so many titles, in addition to son and partner, cousin, et cetera. So when you take all of those titles away, who are you? Um a kind person uh, that likes to do things and get things done. Okay, was there ever a moment in your life when you realize I built this dream, I built this dream, I built this platform, but I feel lost in it? I'm guessing no.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2:

I the only time I okay, wait, hold on. I don't think it was because I built. The only time I ever felt slightly lost was when I got injured and snapped my Achilles. I was a little lost because I didn't know if it was the universe being like oh, you shouldn't dance anymore, or like if there was like a sign of some sorts. But I feel like I quickly figured that out.

Speaker 1:

So how'd you get through it? Because I know injuries, especially as a dancer, that's hard. I've had like a couple of injuries.

Speaker 2:

I focused on other things that I liked, like singing and acting and things like that, and so I pursued those other things and made those things happen while I was injured.

Speaker 1:

Interesting. So what's something your followers would be genuinely surprised to learn about you? Something that probably doesn't make it into the content.

Speaker 2:

I am negatively positive, okay so because I'm really blunt, so I'm a baseline very positive person. But I say things matter of fact a lot of the times. So like my friends and I will call each other fat, like we just do, and then we'll be like okay, like we'll fix it, then Like I'll just work out more, like it and like doesn't get me down, I'm not sad about it, I'm like okay, like strive for better.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think you have a nice equilibrium between just bluntness and being really kind and a good human. I remember, whatever it was years and years ago maybe five years ago you were supposed to teach for me and you FaceTime me and you had books. You had a book, you booked a movie or whatever it was, but I had so much respect for you because you had so much integrity to tell me to my face that you couldn't work for me and I'm just like, wow, this guy's a standup guy, so you're direct, but you're have so much integrity and you're kind, which is really hard, so thank you for that. That had a long lasting impression on me. So you've lived so many lives classical dancer, Broadway star, content creator. What part of you did you have to shed to get into who you are, this version of yourself, to live and be full out and who you are?

Speaker 2:

To shed. What do you mean by that? Like to.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes we get in our own ways, we get in our own heads, right, and so sometimes, becoming being who we are, we have to shed parts of ourself or unbecome parts of ourself, okay, I would say the biggest part that I have to shed and I'm constantly shedding is the self-confidence, because I find it difficult to pursue or do something unless I'm like really excelling at it.

Speaker 2:

Or I find it difficult to like unless I'm like almost the best or like undoubtedly like very, very like close to being at the top. I feel like a fraud. So often I have to like give myself like blind confidence and just like force myself to do it and like it always usually goes fine. But that's one of the things where I like to have difficulty doing, or I need to see someone that I know is potentially less skilled than I do it, and then it often gives me confidence to do it because I'm like well, if they're doing it, then I can do it too wow, so how do you?

Speaker 1:

you talked about imposter syndrome. How do you tackle that?

Speaker 2:

practically um luckily so, like I'm, I'm like right on the fence. I sit on the fence of like feeling. It's not necessarily that I feel like I'm an imposter, it's just I feel like I'm not quite good enough, like the skill set might not be there. With that said, I do, underneath it, have the confidence to know that if I throw myself into it I will float. So sometimes I'll just force myself to do it and I do have the confidence to know that I will float. But it's a struggle Like it can be difficult.

Speaker 1:

What does it take to be the best?

Speaker 2:

Um, I don't think like I'll ever or anyone will ever be the best. There's always so many people that are better than me and you'll never be the best at anything. But I think that to be good and to excel, you essentially need to do more than what other people are willing to do. So if you do the same as what other people are doing, you're going to get. You're going to be just like everyone else, like you really have to be willing to do more, like literally more than what anyone else is willing to do.

Speaker 1:

Otherwise, you will just be like everyone else is doing it yeah, I think if you want to excel and you want to be at the top of your game, you you have to make some sacrifices. Do you believe in a work-life balance? That's talked about a lot.

Speaker 2:

Um, I do to a certain extent. I think a lot of people have different um, what do you call it? Like gauges of what their balance feels like? Um, I think my balance is very high, like I have a very high threshold for stress. So for me, a lot of if I were to look at probably a lot of people I would say suck it up.

Speaker 2:

But I think that inevitably, you can only handle what you can handle. So if you are not happy in the balance, then you do have to take a step back. But, once again, if that's something you want to excel in, then that's not a choice. If you want to excel in whatever, then you need to put everything into whatever that is that you need to do in order to excel past others. But if that is a detriment to your mental health and to whatever and you can't do it, then that's the balance you need to find right. So everyone's balance is different and everyone's threshold is different. Yes, I do believe in it and yes, I think I have a great work-life balance, but I also have a high threshold for stress.

Speaker 1:

Where do you think you you learned that mentality from? Was it from your parents? Or where did you gain that confidence?

Speaker 2:

I think it's from my parents. I think um my parents instilled like a very good um work ethic in my brother and I and they always kind of said, like if you're gonna do something, like do it, like give it a hundred percent, or like move on like it's like, so give it a hundred, don't like half-ass something and like expect to get a good result.

Speaker 1:

I agree, I don't know any other way than full out, right? Um, so I've noticed, like such an interesting transition in your life as a dancer and then obviously as an influencer, was that like a conscious decision to go like I'm gonna step into the influencer you know kind of sector? Was it like a necessity? And then how did you shift that impact and how you see yourself as an artist?

Speaker 2:

It happened very naturally, I would almost say semi-gradually, but there was definitely like, if I looked at a chart, it would be like this, and then it would go like this, and then there would be like a sharp upwards thing, and that would have happened during COVID um upwards thing, and that would have happened during covid. Um, but basically I always had some sort of digital following, because after so, you think, when twitter was popular, I would like have a bunch of twitter followers. And then, like when instagram got a hold, like I had a chunk, like I had I always had like a base, like like a head start, um. So I was always kind of like making content, but it was like different back then and you would just do a little bit and you weren't able to really like monetize on anything, but I just kind of had that presence. And then, as we're approaching 2020, like 2017, 2018, 2019, I would get like occasional small little brand deals once a year, twice a year, three times a year, kind of thing.

Speaker 2:

And then it started ramping up 2020. Even before COVID it started ramping up. And then COVID happened. There was like a two month of like silence where everyone was like don't know what's happening, and then the marketers went all in and was like, and that's when I feel like I became an influencer, like the marketers just went all in and then, like TikTok happened, and then I grew my presence on TikTok and so kind of like all of that just happened all at once and but it was like kind of like a natural progression and it happened naturally, but I think I was prepared, um, I was in the right place at the right time. But I was prepared for it luckily, I guess, because if I wasn't prepared for it then I guess nothing would have happened right.

Speaker 1:

And then what like when did this turn into like a business for you? When you're, when you kind of shifted your mindset and thought, okay, I'm building my brand, I'm expanding maybe my IP and especially coming from dancer artist audition kind of mentality, how did you shift that and have that transition there as far as a business goes?

Speaker 2:

I wouldn't say it was like a transition. I think it's like I have, like it's just an avenue that I have, but I definitely think that it became a business avenue when I started making like really good money from it. But I still kind of do my other things as well, so I just consider it an avenue.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and so when your art becomes a content and then your name becomes a brand, how do you protect your piece? I know we talked about that a little bit earlier, but I'm more thinking like, more concisely, of like what boundaries have you had to have to, like, stay on top of your game, but also to find your own balance? You know finding that middle ground. Can you kind of touch upon that a little bit more?

Speaker 2:

um, I think in general I am naturally a very consistent person and balance is generally easy for me to find. I think naturally I will pull back on certain things when I feel like there's no balance or whatever. So generally with socials I don't necessarily feel that stressed about it. I kind of just post when I want to, and luckily I want to. So I wouldn't say I post a ton, probably two times a week, maybe three, sometimes one. I guess it just kind of depends. I think I should more. But yeah, I don't think that I ever feel like I think I'm also really lucky. I think that on my socials generally I just spread kind of like happy dancing, funny kind of something, and I never really get negative comments. So I don't really feel attacked that often. And even if I am attacked, often my followers will back me up, so I often don't even say anything. Um, yeah, I think I'm just lucky in that sense all right.

Speaker 1:

When you're creating content, do you have in your, in your head, like I want to create this happy content where people can go and it's kind of a a an escape for people that are probably being exposed to some negativity and some bad content on social media. Is that like your philosophy in mind or your strategy?

Speaker 2:

Honestly. No, I think I'm just doing what makes me happy and then I'll put it out there. So I don't know if I ever go through some like super negative phase. You might see that um. But I I think in general, like I usually lean into like happy slash comedy um, and that's kind of very uh reflects on how much like how I lean like in. I'm like a baseline, like a very happy person, like very like comedic, I like to joke, I like funny things, so like that's like my content always kind of lives around that like happy comedy, fitness even a little bit, and like uh it, it kind of lives in that space. And I think that's because of like kind of generally who I am as a person, um, but I wouldn't say I consciously do it to have an escape for people. I do get a lot of messages from people saying that they really like that, but I think that it's not like a conscious decision, it's just what I end up putting out.

Speaker 1:

Why do you think, aside from the happy content, what do you think makes people gravitate towards you in such a saturated market? Honestly, I don't know I don't know like it like I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I have two over two million followers and I just well, I feel like people like things for different reasons, right, and I don't know if I would follow myself. I don't know, like I. I there's a lot of people that really like watching dance. There's people that maybe they like seeing technique. Maybe there's people that are just they want to see something happy and easy. Maybe they want to know what trends are, maybe they find them annoying and they want to watch it because it's like watching a train, a train wreck. I don't know, like I. I feel like people follow people for different reasons and I wouldn't know Like I. I feel like people follow people for different reasons and I wouldn't know why people follow me. I assume it's probably because they like dance.

Speaker 1:

I mean it does your content does make me happy, like I. I will scroll and you'll. You'll pop up on my for you page. I'm like this is this is fun content. He looks like he's having the time of his life, so yeah.

Speaker 2:

I don't take it too deep, like it's just kind of like silly, usually like there's a, there's nothing. That's usually that serious on my page. I'm. I'm not that serious of a person. Yeah, kind of. Sometimes I'm kind of serious, but if I'm comfortable I'm not serious, do you think influencers take themselves too seriously?

Speaker 2:

most don't, I don't think. I think some do, but it's not too serious. If they want to be serious, they can be serious. There's going to be a market for that too. Yeah, I think people are going to do what they want to do, and I think that's part of what's nice about socials is that you can ideally sort of get to know the person a little bit and, and I feel like in general, you can get like a vibe of how the person might be. Of course, it's socials just like how tv things like not everything you see is like exactly how it is, but um, but yeah, I mean, if people want to be serious about it and take it serious, that's also fine.

Speaker 1:

Like there's so many people that have built like entire empires that are incredible when you, when you think about how you receive and project information, I'm curious what's your love language?

Speaker 2:

um my love language, like like the five love languages, um, I think it's the five love languages um.

Speaker 1:

I think it's physical touch, followed by wait, what are the five?

Speaker 2:

so it's physical touch affirmations, not affirmations. Affirmations gifts oh, it's acts of service. So minor um uh.

Speaker 1:

Physical touch and acts of service okay, and how do you find that showing up in each part of your life?

Speaker 2:

I think, like with, with like a partner, it's like definitely like obviously physical touch and stuff like that, but like with like friends and families, partners, like acts of services, like things that like you do for that person or for your friends or for your family, like I think those things are important, you know, even if it's, even if they're minute. I think, like showing those things like I don't know it makes me feel good when, yeah, I'm interested about your balance.

Speaker 1:

If you were to take away maybe some of the love languages that you receive, would that shift your balance in your life?

Speaker 2:

uh, yes, because generally, like my, I feel like my balance is like um work and then relationship and and these are relationships between families, friends like loved ones, whatever, and when both of those are going well, that's really nice. If any of them are like out of whack, then I can have a more difficult time. So like if you eliminated two of my most important love languages, then obviously the relationship aspect of the friends and family and everything would not be great and then my balance would be out of whack.

Speaker 1:

And so what are your tips to manage when one's out of whack?

Speaker 2:

Fix it.

Speaker 1:

Fix it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, determine what the issue is and fix it. Like I don't sit in complaint and like whatever. Like I will identify the issue and I will try to fix it, like immediately.

Speaker 1:

I'm a fixer as well. What would happen if you just didn't fix it?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. I don't think I've ever done that before. I guess, I'd be sad for a little bit.

Speaker 1:

And can you tell me about your family? I know you had mentioned you know a big part of your life is family, so can you tell me a little bit about your like time growing up and what makes you who you are? Because I'm really impressed, everyone that comes on the podcast are so sure of themselves and they all have different backgrounds. So, like, where did you grow up? How did you learn? Some of it is nature versus nurture, but where did you learn these like really badass characteristics that kind of help you and drive you through your life?

Speaker 2:

characteristics that kind of help you and drive you through your life. It's definitely my parents. I grew up in Canada in a small town. I had a very lovely childhood. My parents were always very supportive of what we did and always encouraged us to pursue our passions. And you know, kind of like to pursue our passions and if, if that was what we wanted to do, to put it, to do it a hundred percent. Um, cause living with regret is like one of the hardest things. So like to always kind of like if you really really want to do it, like you need to like do it and then you need to give a hundred percent, because if you don't do it and you regret, that's like one of the worst things to live with.

Speaker 2:

Um, and I think that my parents just really instilled this like really good work ethic with uh to my brother and I, but also like a healthy mental state, which I don't know if it's a chemical thing or if it's something that was taught, because both my brother and I are kind of like that we can handle a lot of stress and we can be very matter-of-fact with our feelings Him much more than me. I'm considered the emotional one in my family. But yeah, I don't know, I I definitely had a really really good childhood and small town I think was really nice, because up until I was 12, you know, I could play hockey on the street with my neighbors and you know we would walk to school and everything. And then, um, high school, we moved to a little bit of a bigger town and and I was doing like dance school, like in the bigger city, and everything, and so, um, yeah, I don't know, I had a really good, fortunate childhood and where did your?

Speaker 2:

parents grow up, were they my parents grew up in Hong Kong and they immigrated to Canada, uh, I believe for their last year of high school, so they were fairly young as well. I feel like we were raised with like Asian traditions, with like a Western kind of mentality, kind of like mixed together.

Speaker 1:

I think that's probably why our work ethic is really good, but also having the freedom of that western thinking how do you think I always think it's really interesting we've had so many guests on that are from immigrant households how do you think that quote-unquote immigrant mentality shaped you into this version of yourself, this like go-getter, confident, I know what I want.

Speaker 2:

I'm blunt, I can handle it so I think, um, when you come from, especially in the Asian household, I, I think I see that a lot in Asian households is like the parents can be like very blunt and um, also because a lot of people immigrated and it was difficult for them to perhaps have a roof over their head or whatever, like a lot of these basic necessities were either difficult to meet or like not met, and so a lot of those parents would force or really want their kids to pursue something academic and luckily my parents didn't feel the need to force us into academia. I think I was one of the few Asians like that. I knew that wasn't like forced to like become a doctor or a dentist or whatever. We did have to do well in school. Um, I won the academic award, like all in my elementary school years, every year, um, and like that was like a rule. It was like you have to do well in school if you want to continue dancing. You have to do well in school because you know god forbid, something happened that you have something to fall back on.

Speaker 2:

Um, but they let us pursue that in tandem and it wasn't like I think that once they understood that, oh, I can't go to university and get you know some science degree and then dance after. Like once they realized that like the dance career is short and it's like timely and you have to do it now. Whenever they were like, okay, like you don't have to go to college, slash university, like you need to pursue what your passion is. And I remember they talked to me. They said, as a dancer and as a performer, you may not have a lot of money, you may struggle to put food on the table. Would that be something you would want to do if you get to dance? And at that age I said, yes, I still would like to do it, even if it means I'm struggling. And they were like, okay, just as long as you know that, but just yeah, and then just make sure you put in 100% of your effort.

Speaker 1:

I love that. I was also that person that would come home from dance at like 10 o'clock a night, hide under my covers and do my math homework. That was always my thing. So what was that like for you growing up, being a male dancer?

Speaker 2:

Um, slightly lonely sometimes. Um, there weren't a ton of male dancers at my first dance school and then later on, um, in my, in my ballet school, there were more, but it wasn't as much as like. Sometimes when I would go to international ballet competitions, it would be like a lot of male dancers and that made me feel very like included. Um, not to say that I didn't feel included as like, as like a student I was always very included, but, but it's different when, like, there's like barely any male dancers. But I got a lot of support. So I can't say that I was unlucky like. I had a lot of support from all my peers and all my teachers and everything. Um, probably more because you know like that happens with, with with male dancers, um, especially if the teacher sees talent in you and things like that. So, very lucky, but sometimes feeling like, oh, like I'm a little alone in this and like sometimes needing some guidance.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, how did, when you were feeling alone, even with the guidance, what was your self-talk like to get you through it?

Speaker 2:

It wasn't necessarily like I'm lonely, but just feeling like the path was unclear, like a little bit of like I'm walking this path on my own and I'm forging my own path, because the path wasn't clear, like I felt like for, like even like when I was younger, sometimes there'd be like very like feminine forward choreography that like I don't know as a young dancer, like I don't know I didn't feel comfortable in my body and so as a young dancer, I didn't know how to fit that choreography on my body and that took a long time on my body and that took a long time and I didn't have any like mentors or peers to like look up to, to be like how do they approach that type of choreography or how does that choreography sit in their body, um, and so that took a long time to kind of like be able to be comfortable with like taking choreography and making it my own and making it comfortable in my body, um, and that was I think that was one of one of the things.

Speaker 2:

And then also like not knowing what to do, like career path, like what to do, where to go after I graduate, like you know, where do what do people do, kind of thing.

Speaker 1:

So just that so then, how did you figure that out? What to do like? What was that segue for you after graduating? What was that first step to kind of figuring out what you wanted to do? Were you just, did you leave and just go right to audition? Or what was that transition like for you?

Speaker 2:

so when I was 15, I was kind of at a crossroads of like. I was like studying all types of dance jazz, tap, whatever and I was going to a very good ballet school at the time and this was 2002 or 2001 or whatever 2002 maybe. So I didn't feel like it was really realistic to pursue commercial dance as an Asian American. I didn't really see Asians on TV and I didn't really see Asians on screen. So I knew at the time that I was good enough to get into a ballet company and I felt like ballet companies were a little more colorblind.

Speaker 2:

So I decided to kind of pursue this ballet route and also, like it had a stable salary, because you'd get into a company and you'd have a yearly contract and things like that, and that for me, felt safer and more reasonable. I was like what am I going to do? Like try to audition for like West Side Story and like like they don't need any Asians or like I mean, I just didn't see that it didn't seem viable. And so at 17, I went to a really large ballet competition called Prix de Lausanne and I became the first Canadian in like the entire history of the competition to win. And when you win that competition. It was so prestigious that you can essentially choose any company in the world, and so that brought me to American Ballet Theater in New York City, and that was like my transition from student to professional, and that was how my transition happened.

Speaker 1:

Wow, so you had talked about before you got into the company. You were a younger dancer, you were kind of unsure how to feel within your body and you get into the ballet company. Were you more aware or more comfortable in your own skin? Did you listen to your body a little bit more to get really comfortable in who you are as a dancer? Because I think as dancers we're so connected to our bodies?

Speaker 2:

I think I found, um, that comfortability probably when I was like 13, um, like by watching the maybe the few older male dancers there were. We also like didn't have like YouTube and like things like that back then to like be able to watch other people. So, yeah, it would just be kind of like finding what was like comfortable, like dancing in my body and things like that, and I feel like I found that probably around 13. And then, of course, like in some of those international ballet competitions, there were so many other male dancers and that made me feel very welcomed and like I was like, oh, that's so cool, like there's so many other people. And then you know, as you join a professional company, like it's not 50%, but maybe it's like 40% are male. You know what I mean. The company split is like is a lot. So yeah, that was cool.

Speaker 1:

So I always like to ask this question. I'm always curious what the answer is. Who, like what age, is your inner child?

Speaker 2:

I'm always curious what the answer is. Who, like what age is your inner child? Probably like it's probably like a mixture of like like a 17-year-old and an 80-year-old, like there's not much in between. Like I love games, I am very energetic and like happy and even even like prefer to be a little naive, but like, in the same time, like I don't like partying I don't, I've never liked it I don't like like going out and like drinking and like like that's just not me. I prefer to like not in the sense that I like quiet and like I know I like to be out and about all day. I love walking around, I like fitness and everything, but like it's like I kind of straddle that sometimes.

Speaker 1:

You do. I don't like going going out like that. I like to be very intentional with my, with my time. I am like a grandma, like I like to be in by eight if I'm being real, um, but I like to be very intentional, feel like your, your network is your net worth, who you surround yourself with says a lot about who you are right. So if you could tell your 17 year old self anything, what do you think, um? Or maybe just if you could see him, if you could be with him, what do you think he'd say? And what would you say back?

Speaker 2:

I think he'd probably say, he'd probably ask am I going to be a professional dancer, Is it going to be good? And I would say, yes, you are going to be a professional dancer and yes, it's going to be fulfilling.

Speaker 1:

I love how concise you are. It's amazing. It's so good to be studied. So thank you so much, alex, thank you Thanks for having me Thank you so much. You are such a rock star and you're so. You have so much integrity, and I really appreciate that about you. So thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

Thank you too.

Speaker 1:

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