From Wounds to Wisdom (Previously the Mental-Hell Podcast)

From Corporate Comfort to Entrepreneurial Freedom

Season 2 Episode 9

What happens when the career you've invested decades building suddenly feels empty? Sheila Andres faced this pivotal moment after 20 years helping grow someone else's business from a California footprint to international success. Despite external achievements, she found herself profoundly disconnected from joy, purpose, and her authentic self.

The journey Sheila shares takes us deep into the psychology of transformation, revealing how childhood wounds create adult limitations we often can't see. As a six-year-old temporarily sent to the Philippines while her parents established themselves in America, she internalized painful questions: "Am I not important enough to keep?" This seemingly small moment created a pattern of unworthiness that would influence her decisions, relationships, and professional identity for decades.

Sheila's breakthrough came not from pushing harder but from slowing down in a world obsessed with speed. "We're all running at 1000 miles an hour and we feel we have to keep pace, but don't be surprised when after years of this, you suddenly don't know how to stop," she explains. This counterintuitive wisdom—slow down to speed up—became her pathway to clarity and eventually the foundation of her coaching practice.

Through her work as a trusted advisor and progress expert, Sheila now helps entrepreneurs navigate their own transformation from "stuck" to successful. Her approach isn't about cookie-cutter strategies but helping each person "succeed their way" by confronting the specific barriers holding them back. The most powerful moments often come when she reflects back to clients what they cannot see themselves, creating clarity where there were only streaks in the mirror.

Whether you're considering entrepreneurship, feeling stuck in your current business, or simply seeking more authenticity in your work, Sheila's story offers powerful reminders about the courage it takes to remove the blinders and see yourself clearly. Connect with Sheila and download her free guide at realize-yourvision.com/rollercoaster to begin your own journey from wounds to wisdom.


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Season 2
Unraveling the Mind: From Mental Struggles to Inner Strength.

Speaker 1:

Welcome to the From Wounds to Wisdom podcast with your host, Barbie Moreno, where we dive into people's past and discover what wounds they incurred and how they transformed those wounds into wisdom to help themselves and others. Welcome to the From Wounds to Wisdom podcast. I am your host, Barbie Moreno. My guest today is Sheila Andres. She's a trusted advisor, progress expert, speaker and author with years of hands-on experience helping build a business from the ground up. She knows firsthand the challenges entrepreneurs face and now, as the owner of Realize your Vision and the founder of Stuck Sucks Movement, she's on a mission to help small business owners turn their vision into reality. Sheila believes there's power in small and she's here to share her wisdom with us today. Welcome, Ms Sheila.

Speaker 2:

Yay, I'm so excited to be here, Barbie.

Speaker 1:

Thank you, thank you. I love all of the work that you're currently doing. I think that you're amazing from all the conversations that we've had, and I want to get into how you got there and then we can talk about you doing, because we know that this is from Wounds to Wisdom. So we all have a story and we would just absolutely love to hear yours, so can you share with us your journey?

Speaker 2:

Thank you, um, when you showed up and said this is your podcast, like I said, there was this fire in my heart. That was almost like a hell. Yeah, you have to do it. I knew it was going to be a deeper dive, but I think it's important to have these kinds of conversations and sharing with the world, because we all, I believe, have a purpose. We're all meant to do great things, and when we respond to that deeper calling, because maybe we're not completely aligned for what we're supposed to do, it gets really scary. And I think that's where I found myself at.

Speaker 2:

Very briefly, right out of college, I decided to work for a small business owner rather than a big corporation ready to hire me. I gave them 20 years of my life, but I probably should have left a lot sooner. And, long story short, it allowed me to experience all kinds of things that was necessary and important to create a business, from startup to the point of success, however you define that. In this case, it was moving from a footprint in California to nationwide open offices internationally. But what I would have to say is, in the beginning, I was really passionate. It was exciting, I felt valuable, I felt like there was a determination and when I would put in and contribute to achieving the goals. I felt appreciated, you know, and it fueled my aspirations. But somewhere along the line I don't know, I think determination, aspiration somehow turned into expectation and demand. Things got really hard and I think because time is short, I'm just going to hit it.

Speaker 2:

I woke up one day feeling like I am not loving what I'm doing. I felt completely lost and I think, deeper, deep down inside, on a deeper, deeper level, I just I didn't know who I was and I I lost my joy. I just felt like there's got to be something more in life. Where was the Sheila that was so excited about life? Where did she go to and how did I lose myself in that and without knowing I couldn't explain it. I just well I know now I wasn't happy with who I was with myself, like personally, who you were, like in your yes. Yes, there's moments when the day was great and I'm sitting there and I might, I just didn't feel good about about anything. But I realized I wasn't feeling good about who I was and who I was being so bottom line. It just got to a point where I'm like I can't continue my life this way. I want to be happy, I want to be joyful. I'm married, I have two daughters I don't feel like I'm present with them and, more importantly, I want to understand more deeply what it is that I lost. You know, what is it that's really getting in the way of my joy? Why am I not happy? And I knew might've been something with me, but I was in uncharted territory, you know. So I left the company and started down this, this pathway.

Speaker 2:

I never thought I'd be an entrepreneur, but the signs were there my whole entire career and life. People would show up and say Sheila, why don't you start your own business? You're so good at this? I'm thinking if I would have, if that was meant for me, I would have done it already. I'm better as a trusted right hand. But there's so much truth in that. So there's a part of me that I realize and recognize that I'm good at.

Speaker 2:

And that's where, when I branched off, I wanted to know what were those things so I can embrace it and really lean into that value, that sense of worthiness, and share that because it brought me joy.

Speaker 2:

But I also want to know what were the other poo-poo stuff, you know, the stuff that maybe was pleasant and I had no idea what I was stepping into, because, unfortunately, in the two decades I, you know, invested my life in this company, there was no reinvestment in me, in my own personal self-development. There's no reinvestment in me, in my own personal self-development, and that was a space where, when I decided to start my own business, it opened up the path where I had to learn more about who I was, hard truths, the good stuff and all the bad. And I think that's the place that really, really moves the needle for everyone you know, especially in the place of business, because it's about showing up. I think that if you were called to be an entrepreneur, you need to embrace everything about you with confidence, the good and the bad, so you could show up without hesitation. Yeah, and there's something about aligning with your truth that brings out authenticity.

Speaker 1:

That's really what I wanted to say and also like when you started 20 years ago, you were a different person. Oh, yeah, right, or more than 20 years, but the 20 years that you started like when you're a different person, so maybe it fulfilled that part of you back then. But, like you said, we have to learn to leave when it's no longer fulfilling us. But that's hard right.

Speaker 2:

It is, and you know what's hard about it is because we don't know. Yeah, we don't know what we don't know. I tell so many people that, like I'm not, can I trademark that we don't? You don't know what you don't know. We don't know what we don't know, yeah. But there's a strong feeling that I think if you really lean into your own gut, intuition and senses, you know it can't lead you. It can't lead you the wrong way if you're being honest with yourself. And that's where I found myself stepping into a place of complete honesty about what is it that you want, sheila, what is it that's not making you happy and what might be getting in the way of your joy and success.

Speaker 1:

Well, and leaning into that, the I think that, like from what I've experienced with talking with people, is they want to do things, but there's some part of them that doesn't feel either worthy, or that they don't feel like they're enough, or somebody told them that they, you know they would never succeed, and so they rely on these stories about themselves to keep themselves small. So what have you experienced with that? What do you teach people when that's the story they're telling themselves?

Speaker 2:

I was just like stop talking about me, barbie, right, I'm talking about me, barbie?

Speaker 1:

right, I'm talking about me too, don't worry.

Speaker 2:

But that's exactly the crazy thing about it, like, like you're so unique, barbie, there's no one else like you in the whole wide world. There's no one like me, there's no one like anyone else. But the thing here is what holds us, I think, in similar or connected in some way, is that our journey opens up to address everything that you just said yeah there's something in our life and the beliefs and experiences we went through that have dimmed our light, and we didn't know it right you know that have made us small, uh, second guesses.

Speaker 2:

There's voices in our head that I didn't even realize how abusive and nasty my negative Nelly was until I took a moment to really sit there and say if I want something different than I need to start opening my eyes and ears to the things that I'm not seeing or hearing. And, um, you know, right there that sense of unworthiness. You know you go down your path. Who knows how it's going to open up for you. That's what's beautiful about it. It's like your journey is so unique to you.

Speaker 1:

It's also scary.

Speaker 2:

Oh, it's so scary, yeah. But when we desire for it and we find that courage to just show up, get into a space where maybe truths will be made known, the learning becomes. You know the growth. That's the part that scares you. But you don't even know what you don't know, so you stepped into it. You may not even realize it, but when it hits you, that's where it's hard.

Speaker 2:

And one of the things I wanted to say was that feeling of unworthiness. You know, I worked predominantly in an industry of men. This whole journey allowed me to see, oh my God, my ego. I didn't even need her until, um, oh my, so I'm going to get really real here. After I turned 50, you know, um, and the sense of unworthiness.

Speaker 2:

Even when I was smaller, I remember when I started to listen. I would remember my mom saying like, when people would compliment you oh you look nice today, or you did well I had a hard time receiving the thank you or affirmation which is grace to say thank you in return. You know like oh, you look nice today, thank you so much, or you did really well, thank you. I would somehow try to dismiss it or be like no, it's not a big thing or anything like that I couldn't receive and I didn't understand what that was all about. And really hard. Truth too is, you know, you know ego. It's the need to control, look good and be right Right. Well, it took me years to even know what that looked like, what that felt like, how it showed up for the aha moment to hit.

Speaker 2:

And so, you know, we stay steadfast and committed to saying I know there's got to be more. I want to be free, I want to feel good about myself, I know I have value and I want to fully embrace it and I want to share it with the world. Well, these are the things that kind of end up holding us back, but if we stay committed to go, I want to overcome that. You'll see that there's little things in life. I always say I think you get what you need when you need it. Some will be a bigger aha and in some cases it might be little things. That starts to open up your, your perspective on things, right, so that when the next teaching or lesson comes, you've been positioned to be able to receive it and learn even more. So I feel like my journey has been these little moments either a conversation coming into a workshop or whatnot. That just little by little started to people say peel back the onions or, in my case, pull off the blinders. Little by little, right.

Speaker 2:

So one day it made sense between connecting what I heard in my head to how I felt in my heart, to the experiences and memories I remember, to recognizing this truth of you know, unworthiness, and what does that really mean. And then, when it all came together, it's like your mind is completely blown and your heart wants to just explode.

Speaker 1:

And it's a journey. I think that a lot of people want things immediately. In my course, from wounds to wisdom, I teach people that it takes a long time to retrain yourself, but once you do, then those habits become normal. It was like I was. It sounds silly, but I was earlier looking at my dishwasher and I was like I'm so grateful I have a dishwasher, you know, and that just sounds dumb, but like just to be grateful for that is a trained habit to look for things to be grateful for. And it's the same thing with what you're talking about. These are trained habits. This is not something that you just wake up the next day and go I'm going to be successful, I'm going to quit my job and I'm going to do X, Y, Z. You have to train yourself these ways.

Speaker 2:

It's so true and you know I'm going to do a really transparent confession. Yeah, you know I'm a coach and it's like one of those things where you're trying to share your gifts with the world where people say, well, you need to, you know, put that gift and something that people can download. And I thought, well, everyone's doing that. I don't want to do it. But I realized that it's so important to be able to share even these few little nuggets for those where it resonates, because I want to touch and help people look at their journey, not not just in business, because if you're an entrepreneur, you're not putting life in the business. Business is part of your life, right? So when you're looking at it, how can you navigate the journey of life? Because it's a constant roller coaster. It's up and down. When you think you have everything figured out, something else throws a curveball, and I think that that's what makes it quote hard.

Speaker 2:

You know we want to kick the negative words in there, but if you're also wanting to really change, and so I brand as a trusted advisor and a progress expert, but I'm business coach and consultant, but the progress expert lands because it's saying, if you are open to be honest and to really receive that can accelerate your progress in the evolution and transformation of who you need to become to achieve the success you desire. And learning and understanding what you got into almost positioned you to not look at the you know, just the outer shell of this journey moving forward to success. It's really saying you got to know that changes involve. What does it mean right? And to be able to reflect on that to help navigate the resistant.

Speaker 2:

You know, because, like you said, it's scary, it's hard, we don't know what. We don't know what we're getting into. And sometimes you can only move with that desire. I just want to be better, I want to feel better, I want to find joy, I want to be determined Like what does that really look and feel like? And you need all those things to really face the hard truth and to overcome and to move forward to that place of that authentic self you know, alignment with who you truly are, so that you could just show up fully.

Speaker 1:

Was there a specific either time like a, like, a turning point in your life? Were you like this is, I can't do the other one anymore, and then what was that? Or, if you don't want to talk about that, was there like a specific teacher that?

Speaker 2:

you gravitated towards, that helped you come to this realization. You know, I think that it first started the calling, that desire for something different in my life I would say would be the catalyst. And when I look back, you know, with the decisions I kind of made, whether they were good or not, like I mean, I've invested in programs and they didn't really reap what I had hoped to get out of it Right. But the truth was, in stepping into that, there were lessons learned about what not to do and things about myself that I didn't expect going through it. So when I look back, I can't really, you know, regret or pinpoint a person, but I feel like, because I was so determined to really feel good about myself, yeah, to love what I'm doing, to love on people. I mean, that was the first, hardest question I had to ask what do you want, sheila? And the word love, and I thought, what does that have to do with business? But it's everything I want to love, what I'm doing, I'm going to love on people. I want to, you know, pour out these gifts in love and I just find when you come from that place it moves mountains and I feel like one defining point there were so many, because there's a lot of blocks and things that get in our way. But one thing though that sense of worthiness. It's huge. I don't know. I think we do overcome, but as we start to grow and evolve and become more empowered, you know, we become stronger. But we're dealing with a whole nother level of a sense of unworthiness and how to face it and overcome that.

Speaker 2:

But the biggest thing for me was going. Well, if I'm going to go out and share my gifts with the world, what value do I really have? You know? And when I look back, I've done so many things that I didn't allow myself to receive and acknowledge, and they were so important. I mean, I had my own coach tell me Sheila, you're like, you're like every CEO's dream. If they could have you there by their side, because it's it's the truth is like, if they're everywhere and creative, I can help them get grounded and focus so that they can get traction. If they have all these ideas and know what to do, but they're not moving on it, I can ignite passion. I could do sales and marketing, but I could also do more operational things. So, as a business owner, they deal with everything. They're also unique in who they are, so I can compliment them very well.

Speaker 2:

But I couldn't receive that, and so I had to dive deep to go. What in the world was that about? And there was one I can't remember what it was, but they were saying think about a thought that you had when you're addressing this thing. It may not have been unworthiness, but what surprised me was don't ignore what comes to your head, because, even if it doesn't look related, it probably is. And the image that it kept coming back to was when I was a really little girl I feel like I was about six and my parents they were, you know, first generation to come and establish themselves in the US. Well, they needed help. It was just my mom and dad, and they needed help. So there was me. I have a younger sister, and they decided to send us back to the Philippines for one year so that they can get settled and then have us back.

Speaker 2:

And I remember so vividly. I was so young but I could not vocalize what I'm about to share, but I can still hear it till this day. And what was running on my head was you know, why do you have to send me away? Don't you love me? Am I not important enough? Why can't I be important enough? Why can't you love me enough to stay? And you're six? How do you say these things? You probably throw a tantrum or do that, but I remember staying silent because I didn't know how to process the thoughts and the feelings that I had, let alone voice it. The other thing that came to me was saying no, you're a good girl, shaylin. Good girls need to obey, they need to listen to their parents. So if they know Beth and they need to send us away, then trust that. But I felt like I wasn't important enough, I wasn't loved enough and therefore could easily be sent away.

Speaker 2:

Well, I had no idea I had held on to that for so long and bottom line is, when that that truth surfaced, I started to see how it kind of permeated and really spread through other areas and aspects of my life. That place where how can I heal that so that it can change? You know the way I think, how I feel, what I do and all these other areas, and I already knew that there was a sense of freedom from that. You know, to feel that sense of worthiness and to let go of that negative and belief in that lie, yeah, you know. But to accept it that it is a lie, it took me like two minutes to be like so these are the stories you're talking about? Like people are like, what are the stories you're telling yourself? I'm like, once upon a time, I don't know, you know it took a process and enough exposure to the place of personal development and transformation to even understand that language, to even connect with it to and then connect it to.

Speaker 1:

That's what the story means you know, and that's how it's been showing up in my life all this time. Yeah, yeah. What are your tools? Do you have daily rituals, practices like how do you keep yourself in a positive space?

Speaker 2:

um, you know it's crazy because every time I got to a quiet place when things got so hard, even at work, they kept throwing me things. Um, at the corporate job I was in, they kept throwing me things that I had never done before, actually the company never done before. And I want to preface that by saying that at an early age in my career the owner gave me part of the company and I took that to mean that I have a responsibility to ensure that this company succeeds. So when there were problems, ensure that this company succeed. So when there were problems, that belief of that ownership I didn't own most, you know, majority of the company, but that portion of it felt I was grateful for it, right. But I turned it into this like tyrant kind of thing and didn't realize it thing like, well, I am part of the company, like it's part of my responsibility to help save it or put the bird, the building that's on fire and put it out. So, nurturing this, you know savior syndrome, you know putting it all on myself and realizing no, it's, it's not my responsibility, I can only contribute, you know.

Speaker 2:

So when things got so hard, you know I realized when I got to a place of pretty much despair. Yeah, I couldn't. Everything that I could do wasn't working. I just I was just at a place where I was hitting the wall. So it really were moments of despair because I didn't know anything else to do. And I'm only working within my own experience, within my own limits of knowledge in this space I'm dealing with I've never done before. It requires new experiences and knowledge. So when I would get quiet and face that feelings of despair, I found I don't know clarity, I found answers, I found next steps. So I feel like I never actually acknowledged that. It was almost like this innate subconscious thing that I would do everything every time things got really hard and it always worked for me, but it was was I didn't know what, I didn't know, right, you know. But now that I was on a path to really become more mindful and aware, I realized the value of it and what is it so?

Speaker 2:

I want to touch on that because what I would tell people is this we live in a world where it's just getting faster by the minute. Before I'm like I'm running a hundred miles an hour. Now it's 500 miles an hour. Now I feel like it's a thousand miles an hour and we feel like we have to get into this, this, the speed of moving, because this is the world requires.

Speaker 2:

But what happens here is, if we keep nurturing that, if we keep reinforcing that kind of behavior, don't be surprised that after some time of constantly doing this in years past, you suddenly don't know how to stop Right. And I want to help people in that space, to support you, to learn how to stop so you could speed up, slow down, so you could speed up. It goes against the grain of the world, but I'm telling you there is such beauty, peace, joy, progress that can be gained when you can get comfortable with, even if there's a time pressure, like I don't have time to even stop. Can you get to a place where you're like I'm so valuable and I know that I can serve myself and others more if I could just stop for just a moment right, you know, clear the mind and allow the things to come into the space? Or just, can I just calm down, get quiet so I can think?

Speaker 1:

clearly so. Do you practice that daily, or is this something that you do as it needs, as it comes up?

Speaker 2:

I feel like I'm doing it all the time, but absolutely and I think that's the beauty of it, because I want to also share the fact that you know I can come in and share tools or advice, but the truth is like Barbie share tools or advice, but the truth is like Barbie. You're Barbie, I can never be Barbie. I'm Sheila, you can never be Sheila. And even my motto, when it came to me, like what would be your tagline, what's your brand promise if people work with you? And I'm like succeed your way, yeah. So I want to share what you're going through, what you're dealing with, and open up that perspective so that it can create some, you know, pull up some of the blinders so you could see things more clearly. Then I want to help you in that clarity to make a decision for yourself.

Speaker 2:

What does it look like to stop and slow down for a minute? And it's like really embracing and supporting them from a love of true love and support for them to figure that out on their own. Because telling somebody what to do it might help, but we can't control anything right, we can only contribute. So if we make suggestions and whatnot, what really moves a needle is that they stay open, receive it and really do the work to go. Oh my God, I know what that looks like, but I don't want to do it and this is why. So it makes them go deeper and starts them to think about what is forcing certain behaviors, the way they think and what they feel, to do it. But when they slowly start to do that, they chip away at the things that might have imprisoned them. Right, you know, and really no matter how you slice it, there's some form of freedom that you find each time you outgrow or break free from everything that has kept you small.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that. It sounds like our work is very aligned with each other, and so your main audience, or the people that you work with most, are entrepreneurs.

Speaker 2:

yes, yeah, and I think it just created that way because, when I look back, there was a reason why I worked for the small business owner rather than the big company. Yeah, and as much as I've done everything from operations, customer service, sales and marketing, I think my biggest thing was being that trusted advisor to the business owner who was a visionary and that's a leadership role to feel good about what those next steps are. Um, to be part of a team, you know, and recognizing that in order to achieve a goal, you know it's more than just one man or one woman. You know it really involves the talent and expertise of so many different people and that's why, uh, so I'm taking that experience to really bring it into a place where I could use all that as value right in the place of business.

Speaker 2:

And, believe me, we all start out wanting to start a business and we're by ourselves, we don't even know that we're being a lone wolf, and that is probably one of the like the biggest poison you can have to your success. So, but before they can even recognize that, they have to be willing to face some truth. Like I could do this on my own. The truth is, you can't. Everybody needs some help. Yep, yeah. And then it's like what can you do and where are the parts that you're really struggling with? Right, but it's not even just knowing that it's now understanding. Oh, my god, this is the process. This is me growing and evolving. I've got to learn and be willing to invest in myself and to receive the knowledge and the things that other people are good at, so that I can grow and then let that overflow to other people that I pull into my business to help meet their vision. You know.

Speaker 1:

I have found, though, that for that to happen, you have to truly believe in yourself, and that's one of the hardest things for people, because that's why small businesses fail. People start them with the idea that I could do this better, or I could do x, y, z, blah, blah, blah. But you have to invest in yourself, and you have to be willing to invest in yourself in times when you may not have the money to invest in yourself. And? But you have to invest in yourself and you have to be willing to invest in yourself in times when you may not have the money to invest in yourself. And then you have to say I'm still worthy of investing in myself and moving forward, and that is a hard, hard road If you haven't done the inner work.

Speaker 2:

It's so true, and here's the thing. So I'm going to say this people might throw, I don't know vegetables at me, their salad, it doesn't matter. But here's the truth throw, I don't know vegetables at me, their salad, it doesn't matter. But here's the truth. Somebody told me one time Sheila, nobody pays for clarity, nobody pays for confidence. You know, but I'm sitting here and going um, and you just said it, nobody pays for encouragement or belief. Right, but the truth is, yeah, we all need someone to believe in ourselves, and I used to hide from that because I thought there's no, that's not a six figure, I can't quantify that. But the truth is, all these things are priceless. Did you know my whole life, barbie and other people I would. I would phrase it this way they're like she. We have so much energy. Do you know why people want to work with you? Because I want to be in that energy.

Speaker 2:

And I thought I never saw that as valuable and and I'm about to say this because I'm standing in my worth and my truth, not from a place of arrogance, but from a place of worthiness Yep, I've got amazing energy. I'm equivalent to 10 people. I think I'm the best cheer squad ever, so when you need it, I'll give you that loving booty sink. You know what I mean and almost also share like to believe in you, right, but not just to be like. You got this it's almost in order for you to understand how much I believe in you. I reflect back to you your truth about who you are and where you're at at this moment and all the stuff you may have.

Speaker 2:

Come into the call with, sitting in a bed of poo poo and you're like, feel like the world is on your shoulders and there's no hope. But when we're done, you're like I can't do this. But when we're done, you start to see not only and we're reminded of your amazing strength and gifts, but also seeing the good and all the crap that you might be sitting in and how, in that moment, these things are serving you. So I talk in more generality, right, because I'm very customized, high touch and specific to you. This is really where the value and the power comes, because I sit there and I'm really intentional about being present, about seeing you, about hearing you, about getting to know you and when, all the stuff that you share, I process, all of it and then I reflect back vocally so that you can then receive and like mirror back. You know and, and I don't know why Well, I do know why, but when we look at our own mirror, it's all blurry. Right, we've been squirted with our own Windex, scrub it down and there's still streaks. We don't see ourselves clearly, right. But when you're in a place where you feel like I can trust them, I feel safe. Right, I respect her, she won't lie to me, and I'm sharing now and reflecting back a very clear reflection of you and what's happening. It changes everything, you know, and that's what I can't quantify.

Speaker 2:

But the bottom line is that if you sat there for months or years like spinning and not moving and get being able to overcome what's getting in your right, but one conversation suddenly inspires you and you start taking action and doing things you've never done before, how much is that worth to you? I could never quantify how much time you just saved, or maybe you could go back to that. I could have saved two years. That's one thing. But now, as you start to move forward, how can you sit there and be very mindful that I'm investing in myself?

Speaker 2:

My time is valuable. I'm stuck and I don't want to waste it stuck Right. I want to, I want to, I want to. I want somebody that I don't want to waste it stuck right. I want to, I want to, I want to. I want somebody that I can trust to sit there and give it to me straight so I can keep moving, because the more that you progress and the sooner the more impact that you make, the happier you are, you know? Um, that doesn't mean it's not going to be easy, right?

Speaker 1:

right, right, you know nothing that is worth. It is ever without its own ups and downs, right, we go through that in general. How does one um, because we do have to wrap up how does one get in contact with you, should they feel like you might be advantageous to their journey?

Speaker 2:

um, yeah, absolutely my website. Realize, dash, your visioncom. That's R E A L I Z E dash Y O U R V I S I O N dot I O N dot com. There is a place there where you could schedule some time with me and I don't want to sound cavalier or faux pas, but you're going to step into my playground and we're going to have fun, fun with your journey. The other thing here is I did recently create this little tip guide. It's very simple, it's just three things. But if you looked at it from its, you know, outer shell or icing, you know you probably won't get as much out of it.

Speaker 2:

But if you sat there and really looked at those three things, it's going to force you to reflect deeper to understand this journey that you're on and when you think about it and reflect back, it's really going to force you to commit, it's going to force you to understand what change means and stuff like that. So if it's something of value to you, then it's yours, you know, and it's that realize your visioncom forward. Slash roller coaster.

Speaker 1:

Love all of your things for sure. Oh, thank you, stuck, sucks, those kinds of those kinds of thought, because they're real and they're true. So I'm sure anybody who works with you, like you said, you're probably a beautiful mirror for them and we appreciate you coming on the show and sharing your vision, your vision, your expertise and your journey. Thank you so much.

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