Why Progress Never Feels Permanent With ADHD (Even When You Do Everything Right) Nicole Stanley

You're generating real revenue. But every time you open your banking app, your brain shuts down and you close it again.

Nicole Stanley is the founder of Arise Financial Coaching and creator of the Money Momentum Method. Late-diagnosed with ADHD at 30, scoring in the 99th percentile for severity, she built a financial method that turned out to be designed for ADHD brains before she knew she had one. She crossed $250,000 in revenue last year and has helped clients save an average of $40,000 annually.

Nicole explains why standard budgeting fails ADHD brains, why most business owners are solving the wrong financial problem, and how her method works without willpower or expense tracking.

She also walks through her five-problem financial diagnostic. Less than 10% of people actually have a spending problem. Most are misdiagnosing themselves entirely.

If avoidance has been your default financial strategy, this conversation gives you a different place to start.

What We Cover

• Why budgeting fails ADHD brains - it looks backwards and produces shame, not behaviour change
• The five financial problems and why most business owners are fixing the wrong one
• How the Money Momentum Method was ADHD-designed before Nicole knew she had ADHD
• The curiosity framework: look at your numbers as if they belong to a friend
• Why financial problems are solvable problems, not evidence of who you are

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:00

It's exactly my traits as an ADHD woman that have made me successful in business. They've also had some struggles. That ability to take a chance, to put yourself out there, to try new things has been so big in the business growth that that was actually what set me on the path of just starting to question am I bad at this or does this not work for the way that I'm thinking about it?

SPEAKER_00 0:18

Hello everybody and welcome to another episode of the ADHD Skills Lab podcast, brought to you by understood.org, the leading nonprofit helping millions of people with learning and thinking differences like ADHD and dyslexia. Today I am joined by Nicole Stanley, the founder of Arise Financial Coaching and the creator of the money momentum method. In 2015, drowning in debt and financial anxiety, she wrote a napkin goal to become debt-free in five years and did it, growing her net worth to over $250,000 on a $56,000 salary. Launching a rise in March of 2020 amid the market crash, she now helps ambitious women break free from money stress through joyful one-on-one and group coaching, no toxic frugality required, which we love. She's delivered over a thousand hours of coaching, helped hundreds of clients save an average of 40,000 annually and earn features in time, Yahoo, Finance, and CNET. Nicole's mission is simple to give women the confidence, freedom, and guilt-free life they deserve with their money. So, Nicole, it's great to have you on the show.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

Thank you so much, Sky. I'm happy to be here.

SPEAKER_00 1:29

No worries. Yeah. So just to get into it, because it didn't really come up here, you have ADHD.

SPEAKER_01 1:34

Yes, yes, I do. I was late diagnosed, age 30, and it was the diagnosis that everybody who knew me my life said, wait, you just found this out. So it was one of those things that was not a surprise to everybody, but felt like the biggest life-changing surprise for me. My kind of awareness of mental health and all of these things didn't start into adulthood. So it wasn't until I became a mom and started, you know, experiencing my own issues with my children and Googling those symptoms to find that, like, you know, telling my husband, you know, this is this is normal though. This is normal because that's how I was as a kid. Right. And him saying, uh, not necessarily, right? And that led me on the path of eventually seeking out to get, you know, diagnosed and realizing, wow, everything makes sense with this in context. And I remember when, you know, after my six hour evaluation with the psychologist, I looked at him and I said, Okay, so how how did I do? And he looked at me with this kind of confusion and said, I think you know. And I said, Whoa, I said, how bad is it? And he said, Well, let me show you the data. And he took me over to his screen and said, you know, Nicole, if I was to line up a hundred women with ADHD, from the least ADHD to the most ADHD, you would be number 99. And I remember in that moment, I started laughing and then I started crying, right? Because I realized just how much that this has impacted everything about who I am. And it's been a journey, you know, from that diagnosis to, you know, the grief that you go through, the excitement. I launched my company before I knew I had ADHD. And so, you know, a lot of my creation and methods were actually me dealing with my ADHD for many years without knowing it and realizing, oh, I think this makes sense now. Why when I talk about money and, you know, the systems that I help my clients set up, it's like, oh, this isn't the way they teach it, right? This is so much easier. This is more visual. And I think to myself, like, wow, if only I would have known 10 years ago, right? What a different path this would have been.

SPEAKER_00 3:54

No, it's so interesting. And I understand I was, I was also late diagnosed around the same time. What looking back on it, do you feel like was the most, oh, this was definitely an ADHD moment for you?

SPEAKER_01 4:05

I think for me growing up, I I really felt stupid in school. I really did. And in the 90s, nobody really thinks about the girl just talking and who can't shut up as like, oh, that girl's got ADHD because that's not what they were thinking about. They were looking for the boys that couldn't sit down, right? And so there was a lot of just academic struggles that I had that I had really just talked up, like just told myself, like, you know, I just think you're not as bright. And growing up, my dad was an engineer, so he was very studious and smart. I am not an engineer mind. And so there was kind of those things up against each other that made it feel like, wow, I just am not, I'm not smart enough, right? And I internalized that a lot. And I think that affected a lot of my choices into early adulthood as well. Choices in terms of careers, what I studied in school, you know, everything was kind of guided by this concept that, like, yeah, I'm just not as smart as everybody else, right? And when I launched my business, right, I was extremely successful kind of quickly. And I remember the first, you know, year of my business. And it was like I had been a stay-at-home mom for a few years, and I was crying to my husband because I truly had thought I wouldn't be good at anything. And it's actually funny because it's exactly my traits as an ADHD woman that have made me successful in business, right? They've also had some struggles, but like, you know, that ability to take a chance, to put yourself out there, to, you know, try new things has been so big in the business growth that that was actually what set me on the path of just starting to question like, am I bad at this or does this not work for the way that I'm thinking about it? And then kind of like when you go down that path, that's ultimately what led me to being receptive, even when looking at those symptoms that, oh, maybe this could actually be why. I think the other thing that really affected me as a young kid was friendships. Like friendships were really hard. I had a lot of close friends, and it's really cool to be a really good friend. It's just super not cool to be the girl who like forgets someone's birthday. Yeah, yeah. Right. Or the girl that is like, you know, doesn't realize she has an attention problem and you're talking to her and her mind has gone somewhere else. And, you know, I had just chalked it up that it's like, man, you know, maybe just a close friend. I'm just not good at this. Right. And so now looking back, I can say, oh my gosh, like, wow, so much more that I've learned about myself and how to work towards some of those things that, but that doesn't mean that I'm like just destined to never have a close friend or never become smart at something.

SPEAKER_00 6:48

Yeah, yeah. No, and it is interesting how much we we go back and and sort of re re understand our lives. So you started Arise Financial. Take me back to your first sale. Describe that first time somebody paid you for your services.

SPEAKER_01 7:04

I had like one or two sales before this, but I always consider this my first sale. I had done a financial, you know, a training program so I could understand how to price my services and and really package them because that was really the problem that I was struggling with at that time. And so um it was during COVID. I had just put out a a post being like, I'm helping people with their money, you know. And um, I got my first, you know, DM and somebody booked a call with me and this great call. And one of my mentors, there was like a script that I was reading, right? Of like how to quote pricing because I was really nervous. And so the script had the the woman's pricing in it, right? It's like the the cost of the session will be blank, right? And I actually hadn't really decided what the cost of the session was gonna be. And so that way I remember at the time felt like a lot of money. And so I quoted that, I just read it from the script. And then I just remember the, you know, the uh she was one of my first clients. They did awesome, they paid off a ton of debt. And she was like, Yeah, yeah, let's do it. And I remember, you know, signed her up, got her booked for a first call. We worked together for about a year, like they were, they were awesome. And I just remember running down to my husband because I was, you know, a stay-at-home mom flipping cloth diapers to make an extra buck for my family. And I was like, you, you can't move like, oh my god. And I just remember that thing, it was incredible because you know, when you start a business, once you do that first sale, you realize, like, oh, well, what if I repeat this? That was entirely you know, exciting for me, which is why I kind of dug my nose down to keep saying, Yeah, how do I keep building this? Because it's just so much fun.

SPEAKER_00 8:49

Yeah, yeah, it is fun, it is fun, and and I think having people's trust and then being able to like provide value, something that, you know, I think there is a conversation to be had about, you know, feeling like you don't know what your value is, and then figuring it out and having people pay you for it and helping them and also being excited about what you're helping them to do. It's it's great.

SPEAKER_01 9:12

I think that's the other thing too, is like, you know, things that we think aren't our geniuses, it's very easy to assume that everybody has the same genius as you. When in reality, not every, you know, nobody is exactly like you are. And so I never thought that my creativity with money was really of a value, you know. I just thought it was a just a hobby, something fun I liked to do. And now, you know, going through this process with so many people and realizing this is actually incredibly helpful for people, right? Like when they have been in the weeds of working on their money and they can't see it another way, right? And then when they have someone come in and start to brainstorm with them and they start to see all these paths for how they could get to their goal that they never saw before, right? It like helps people just think outside the box, which again is another ADHD thing that, you know, many of us feel like is something bad about us, right? Where I feel like all day long I just get to have my ADHD and I get to like get paid for it and help people achieve their goals with it, right? Like, because that's really what it's about is helping people, you know, do more with their money that they didn't think they could do. And that's like, yeah, another fun, fun addiction that I have.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

And it is, it's like, you know, it's that thing of, you know, what is the thing that feels almost like cheating to you, but to other people, it's incredibly valuable. I think that's that's super, super valuable. Before we get back to the ADHD Skills Lab, I want to share a podcast I think you're gonna love. It's called Sorry I Missed This from the team at understood.org. We know that our executive functioning challenges don't just stay at our desks, they follow us into every part of our lives, including our most intimate relationships, whether it's dating or longer-term commitments. Hosted by Kate Osborne, the show explores strategies that will actually respect how our neurodivergent minds are uniquely wired for love and connection. I listened to an episode called Oh Baby, it's an ADHD pregnancy, which I've been through three times now, and I loved what they said about sensory struggles we can have, how we remember, and all of those little differences you don't realize until it gets there. So to listen to Sorry I missed this, search for sorry I missed this in your podcast app. That's sorry I missed this. Okay, so we've done the first sale now. You're like, yes, let's do this again. When did it start to feel like a business versus like individual clients?

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I would say that first year. I did do a cold call sales job before my before I launched my company. It was horrible. But because of that, I was able to launch very quickly and get those clients. And so I would say it started to feel more like a business when I started to do the group coaching in 2021 because I wasn't able to take on more one-on-one clients at that time. So that was when things really began to grow. And then from there, bringing on my first team member as a coach, right? And then after that, bringing on another team member, right, to help with like some marketing stuff. And that, you know, really made it feel even more real. You know, now it's one of those things that I almost forget how it used to feel when you were just, you know, kind of playing with things and and experimenting to see what was gonna work best for people. And when you do it over and over again, you actually realize, like, oh my gosh, like I can do this. And I and you keep improving.

SPEAKER_00 12:44

Yeah. And and where were you? You mentioned it was really easy to get your clients. I'm curious, were you on the Facebook groups? Did you go through Facebook ads or content? Like, how were you finding your clients?

SPEAKER_01 12:59

Yeah, when I first started, I used to just post on Instagram. So I did it, you know, the way you do it. I was living on, I was working for Meta, basically, you know.

SPEAKER_00 13:13

And um I remember that too.

SPEAKER_01 13:16

Yeah, I hated that. I really, I really did. I have young kids at home, and you know, it's just a lot. But yeah, you do what you need to do when you launch your business. And that was definitely the main way that I got clients. And then, you know, I always get a good client referrals just from happy clients. And then I would say over the past three years, my main source of getting new business is actually podcasting right here. Just going on podcasts. I get about 60% of my new clients just from listeners just like you, right? Who maybe hear about my story or about my method and say, you know, that's something that I've never thought of before, that I could start to, you know, automate my money, that I could start to make it work for me. And, you know, that's really how I've gotten most of my clients from the beginning. I just recently started some paid advertising. You know, great news. That's going great. Um, amazing.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

That that's a journey. So well done. Well done off the bat. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:13

But, you know, really still my main client source is referrals and podcast interviews.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

So, okay, so I've I've um I've teased everyone long enough. Tell us about your strategies. Like, what is the thing? If someone's listening and they're like, Sky, stop talking to you about a business, what is this, what are the financial strategies that you do? Um, what are some of the the most impactful ones you've seen for people?

SPEAKER_01 14:33

Yeah, so I'm a huge believer that money is actually very simple. It is a skill, though, right? And I think it's super important in our culture to just reiterate that, like, hey, if you didn't have like multi-billionaire parents that taught you about financial acumen and financial management, it's totally okay to learn about it as an adult, right? Like they've done a ton of studies and they found that the average person decides what they believe about money by age seven. That's the study they did at Cambridge. And what I think to myself is like, holy crap, there is nothing I trust my seven-year-old self with. And so I think the first thing is allowing yourself to learn. And I think that many people go through a lot of pretending and they might have something they want to do with their money, but they're afraid to ask for how they can get there, right? Or to figure out what skills do they need to learn to be able to get that, right? And everybody's goals are different. Some people, their goals are like, you know, I just want to stop fighting with my spouse, or I just want to get a savings so I can feel safe. Or I just want to understand like why I, you know, I work like hell in my job and I make great money, but I still have credit card debt. Like there's all these different goals. And every single goal, or even you could say a problem that you're trying to solve. I think that I want to encourage every single person to know that financial problems are not who you are. They're not a result of whether or not you're good or bad with money, right? They're actually like solvable problems. But so many times we get really, you know, it's hard, right? Like if you are not getting the result that you want, whether it's paying off debt or saving, it's like we feel this emotional response of negativity. And especially as ADHDers, when we feel that negative feedback, right? Do we run towards that thing or do we run away from it?

SPEAKER_00 16:37

Definitely not towards it, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_01 16:39

Right. And that's human nature, right? Like nobody likes to feel bad about things. And so chances are if you're getting, you know, a bad result with your money management or your budgeting goals or whatever it might be, you are going to avoid that task. And so a really large part of helping people get a better result with money comes back to helping them actually change their relationship with money, which is an experience, right? So part of my process is I like to make sure that when I'm helping someone go from, you know, stressed and thinking about their money all the time to feeling confident, seeing their money go towards their goals. It starts with them actually depersonalizing the financial result that they're experiencing. And we do that like through an audit process. And this is something anybody can do, right? Anybody can do this, but the hardest part is the emotional experience that someone experiences as they go through. And so I think that's sometimes why it's so helpful to have someone walk you through it and to give you some context too, right? Give you the grace. But once you can see, and once I found this about everyone, once you can actually see clearly, oh, this is why. This is why I'm having these problems, right? Because there's really only five financial problems that exist. That's it. Okay. So the five financial problems are you either have a true, true spending problem, and everybody thinks they have this problem. Everybody thinks they have it. And I can tell you, I have looked at hundreds and hundreds of budgets, and less than 10% of people have this problem. So the next one is a fixed expense problem, right? And this is, you know, it's actually more like big spending decisions that you're not making consistently. And so it might be something like transportation, housing, medical, childcare, right? Like these larger fixed expenses that might be like proportionally out of whack with your income. And it's like, hey, no matter how many, how much meat you buy at the grocery store that's on sale, this is one of the, this is the issue, right? And some people don't even know, like, because all they know is their own situation. And it's like, oh my gosh, like actually you could be paying a third of that, right? But and so helping them fix that problem can be huge. The other one is you can have a true income problem. And people really do believe that income problems can be solved with spending, but there are really situations, I'm sure you can think of a ton of them, right? Where it doesn't matter how low you get somebody's expenses or their spending, there's an income problem. The numbers don't number, right? And instead of us giving them this advice that says, hey, why don't you go stop eating out, right? The better advice is actually like, hey, how much of an income problem do we have, right? Is it $500, $1,000, right? Like, how can we solve that? And then we notice like what happens here is we can all put on like our thinking caps, our problem solving caps. And it's like, there's actually a ton of ways we could solve that problem. The next problem is actually a money management problem. And this is when there's plenty of money to achieve your goals, but there isn't an automated system that captures that money. People believe, like, oh, I'll do my budget or I'll stick to this or I'll track every expense. Spoiler alert, you're not gonna do it. Right. Like over 80% of Americans don't budget. And it's because it's pretty asinine, especially for those of us with ADHD. Like all you're doing is looking backwards, you're looking at what you spent, and then you feel like crap about it, right? And so instead of having a plan that works for you, we just say, well, dang it, I'm just not good at budgeting, right? Where I would say, actually, you need a different system, a system that makes sense to your brain, makes sense to the way that you think and the way that you spend. And if we do that, suddenly you're really good at budgeting or you're really good at money management. And so when we don't have that system, money evaporates. And then the fifth one, and this is another one that I would say is pretty prevalent, right? And it's, I don't blame anybody for this because there is so much information online about money, right? Like you can go to the library and you're gonna find just books and books. And so it's not like there's a shortage of financial information. Money is more talked about than it's the second most talked-about thing on the internet. It's not about if you have access to information, it's actually an implementation problem, which is that people do not know how to decipher the next best step for them. And so because of that, they either do nothing because they're overwhelmed, which is a lot of people. So they are like, I don't know what I should, right? So I just kind of do a little here, do a little, or they actually put things, unfortunately, towards the wrong things in the wrong order. So like when there is that extra money, they don't have that order of operations that like builds on itself. So that like every month that you work on your money sky, you should actually find it easier the next month. Your effort with what you put into your money should effectively make your life easier. And so when people don't get that and they're like, well, I did that and that didn't work, or I put it towards that, or I lowered my, you know what I mean? What they say is like, dang it, I'm just not good at this. And it's like, no, we just have to put the money towards the right things in the right order so you can start to feel that benefit. And so those are those five problems that I think are really important. Important because the other issue is when you don't know your problem, what you end up doing is just kind of doing everything and feeling really burnt out because you're not going anywhere. And it's like, hey, let's take a look at the data. What are the problems? And then here's a million ways that we can solve those problems. Which one feels easy? Which one feels good? Okay, let's do that one, right? And I think that's what a lot of personal finance advice is missing is one, really knowing people. Two, everybody just makes fight money off selling products. Nobody makes money except for really coaches, usually, on just giving people skills, helping people learn how to make those decisions for themselves in a way that feels good, in a way that's in alignment and moves their family forward. And so I think that's like, you know, probably outside of the automated method in terms of the budgeting method that I help my clients install, I would say that it's really that mentality and process that helps people kind of get out of that rut of like, I'm just not good at this.

SPEAKER_00 23:03

100%. So if somebody was listening to this and they were like, okay, what is the very first thing I do? They're like, I don't want to look at my money. I am scared. I do not have a budget, as you've said. And obviously I'm talking to business owners. So there's like a ton of things. There's revenue, there's all that kind of stuff as well. What is the first thing you recommend people do?

SPEAKER_01 23:20

So as a business owner, I think that the first thing you need to know, especially if you're someone listening with ADHD, is that business money management is complicated. It is more complicated than just having a personal budget. And so give yourself that permission to say, oh my gosh, like I need to improve this, right? Like, or I don't really understand this. So there's no secret club that says like you need to know how to do it from the beginning. So the first thing is like actually say to yourself, it's okay that I don't know this. I think the first thing that sometimes really trips people up is actually their expectation of themselves that they should already know how to do it. So let's throw that out the window, right? Normalize that it's okay when you start a business to say, yeah, I don't, I don't know how to manage business finances yet. Right? It's the yet that's so important. And then the first thing that I would actually do is I would just pretend as if you weren't looking at your numbers at all. I would love if every person listening to this, when they looked at their money for the first time, especially if you're somebody who's been avoidant, I would like for you to pretend that you have a friend that's come to you that's telling you exactly what you're telling yourself. Okay. That friend is saying, you know, I I started this business. I'm so overwhelmed about taxes. Like, I really don't know what to do. And I don't know like what is happening to my business revenue. And like I thought I was like increasing my money, but somehow I feel like I have more money, like more money gone now, or I have more debt now. And like I'm really overwhelmed. And I want you to pretend that you were helping that friend. Because the first thing that you would tell that friend is like, it's okay, it's okay. Let's figure this out. Like, let's find out what's going wrong, right? Do you have your do you have your transactions or whatever, right? And then when you look at those numbers, I want you to pretend that you're looking at your friend's numbers, right? So what you wouldn't do is you wouldn't tell your friend, hey, idiot, like why did you do this? Or you didn't need to do that, or that was right. Like, notice if you think about it from someone else, you're first a lot kinder to yourself. And the second is you don't already know what's going on with them. So when you start to look at their numbers, you adopt something called curiosity. And that's the thing that's often missing with our own finances. We don't have any curiosity because we're so entrenched in our day-to-day. And so if you can actually look at your numbers and say to yourself, I'm going to keep myself kind as if I'm talking to a friend and I'm just going to adopt curiosity, then it's a lot of money going towards that. What, right? Like all of a sudden, your brain is going to go into that problem-solving mode versus the I'm fixed, I'm stuck, I suck. And that's really like, if I was to say, where can anybody start? It would be pretend that you're looking at a friend's numbers. And when you're looking at a friend's numbers, you're curious, you're not condemning, right? You don't already know the story. And so, like, pretend as if you're learning it, right? And then you start to question things. And I can guarantee you that even that alone would save you thousands of dollars.

SPEAKER_00 26:23

Yeah. And you have the uh you have the average to back it up when it comes to that. Well, we just have a few questions that we ask everyone, Nicole. So, what is a professional achievement that you are most proud of, would you say?

SPEAKER_01 26:38

I would say it was crossing a quarter of a million dollars last year in revenue. What's really cool about last year is like seeing, wow, with that, it means, you know, there were over 150 clients last year that I was able to serve, with each one sending at least, you know, 20,000, with the average being 40,000 to their goals. Really, you know, seeing those over, you know, millions of dollars set to their goals and realizing, like, God, this is just a small piece of the impact that is happening for people's families and for happening for people's marriages. And they're like just the way that they look at life, and thinking to myself, like, wow, it really is, it really is one of those things with a business that like we can multiply good things when we grow. And just that realization of like what's so crazy to me in my family has also turned into something that has been so crazy for other people in their family, and like that's just been really, really, like, really um impactful.

SPEAKER_00 27:44

Yeah, definitely. And on the other side of it, do you have a professional embarrassment or failure? And and how did you deal with that?

SPEAKER_01 27:51

Yeah, I would say in 2021, I tried to to move into group coaching too fast, and you know, that was like the rage and also like certain things. And so I remember I had spent money on these programs teaching you, and blah blah blah. And it was really draining me. I missed knowing people and I didn't like that kind of like arm's length of it. And after two years of doing that and kind of just being like, gosh, I just I hate. I hate doing this. I remember one of my mentors had said, like, why keep doing it then in in this way? And I remember, I was like, Well, I just I spent so much money on learning this, you know. I I feel like I have to do it. And she was like, What if you just let that go? What if you just didn't fall into the sunken cost fallacy? And I remember thinking to myself, like, God, this is so embarrassing. That was 60K that I spent over those years learning, you know, and all of that, right? And then I followed her advice and I decided, you know, I'm gonna change this so that it really works for me. And a month later, with the changes that I had made, I made more in, you know, a month with the new launch than I had made in two years of pushing and pushing and pushing to do it this other way. And had so, so much happier clients and time with that decision. And I'm just happy that like I listened to that advice. But it was, it was a hard stomach pill for me.

SPEAKER_00 29:24

Yeah. Oh my gosh, a hundred percent, a hundred percent. And if you had to pick a quote for your life, something you say a lot, something that kind of gets you through, what would what would that be?

SPEAKER_01 29:34

You know, I'm gonna butcher this quote and I'm really sorry for it. Okay. But it's been really resonating for me as my business has been going through new stages of growth. It's somebody, I don't even know who's that is. Sorry, it's somewhere online. We can Google it, but they say that your growth is limited to the amount of negative feedback you can receive about yourself without running away.

SPEAKER_00 29:56

Yeah, I love that. I love that.

SPEAKER_01 29:58

And I think that's been something that I'm really trying to lean into because, you know, when you think about, at least for me in my business journey, going from a stay-at-home mom flipping cloth diapers on Facebook Marketplace, right? Having panic attacks about money, to becoming a business owner who had just, you know, two clients and making $500 a month. That was life-changing for me. And then serving five clients and 10 clients. And then now, you know, holding the capacity for a hundred clients at one given time and having them be happy and satisfied and getting those results, like who I've had to, what I've had to learn about myself along the way has been not fun. But I think that like embracing and leaning into that a little bit has been, I've just been repeating that to myself in hard times, ups and downs. It's like, okay, this is feedback. Can I take this feedback? Can I learn this feedback? Or am I gonna run away from it?

SPEAKER_00 30:57

Well, it's been really wonderful having you here, Nicole, and having you share so openly your struggles, your strategies. Please tell everybody where they can find you.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Yeah, if you are somebody who is hearing this and you feel inspired about your money or you feel like you've been stuck and you are wanting to do something new, you can always look me up. I'm on Instagram, not as often as I used to be, at arise.financial.coaching, or you can go to my website, arise.financial, and you can find some free resources. Or if you're ready to say, you know, I would love to get some help in this area, you can book a call with me and we can talk about what's going on and if we could be of service.

SPEAKER_00 31:34

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