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Expanding Art and Accessibility in Northwest Arkansas with Jill Wagar
In this episode, we hear all about the artistic and cultural transformation happening in Northwest Arkansas as we chat with Jill Wagar, the visionary director of the Momentary and senior director at Crystal Bridges.
Explore Alice Walton's profound philanthropic endeavors, including the Art Bridges Foundation, designed to bring art to communities nationwide. We discuss the collaborative spirit that drives Alice Walton’s visionary projects, from free museum admission policies supported by Walmart to groundbreaking educational initiatives like the Alice Walton School of Medicine. Jill sheds light on how these initiatives not only make art more accessible but also aim to transform healthcare delivery, emphasizing the Walton family's significant investments in the region's growth and accessibility.
Jill shares about the magic behind the Momentary, where art meets entertainment in unforgettable ways. From renowned performances by Brothers Osborne to the unique Supper Club food series, the Momentary has become a beloved community hub. She shares exciting news on upcoming events and festivals like Send it South, a thrilling blend of mountain biking and music, promising to captivate art and music enthusiasts alike. Join us as Jill invites collaboration and engagement, reinforcing the community aspect of these cultural gatherings.
Hello and welcome to the Retail Journey podcast. I'm one of your hosts, charles Greathouse.
James Harris:And I'm James Harris, and today we're talking to Jill Wager, who is the director of the Momentary and senior director at Crystal Bridges. Crystal Bridges is a museum of modern American art, and the Momentary is designed as a platform for today's art, food and music.
Jill Wagar:That's right.
James Harris:Welcome to the Retail Journey Jill.
Jill Wagar:Thank you, I'm really glad to be here.
James Harris:So you've been with the Momentary since it opened and you've been with Crystal Bridges for a lot longer than that.
Jill Wagar:Yes, I joined the Crystal Bridges team about 14 years ago, so just almost a year before it opened to the public, and so it was such a journey to be able to see this come from an idea into a reality, and then the same with the momentary several years later.
James Harris:That's pretty cool, and I mean Crystal Bridges. We've gotten kind of used to it now, but when it opened it was immediately a top four museum in the entire country.
Jill Wagar:Well, here's what I would say what you think you know about Crystal Bridges is changing.
Charles Greathouse:Oh yeah, the expansion is just enormous.
Jill Wagar:Crystal Bridges by 100,000 square feet and it'll open in 2026. And it's going to just revolutionize, kind of the way that one experiences the museum. So, okay, this is a great story. So our founder, alice Walton, was thinking about the expansion in the future. Oftentimes you see buildings that have multiple architects that have designed the buildings and they kind of don't fit together. So Moshe Safdie is the architect of Crystal Bridges and Moshe and Alice are good friends and she was thinking, okay, if we ever expand Crystal Bridges, I want it to be by Moshe's design. So he's in his 80s. So she called him and said would you come down and would you plan? Would you go and design the 50-year plan for Crystal Bridges? So if you're not here I'm not here it can still happen by the teams Happy to do it. He did it. She loved it so much she said I think we should be able to you and I should get to see this. So let's do it in five years.
James Harris:So we're doing the 50 years.
Charles Greathouse:Five years 50 years.
Jill Wagar:So Sam Walton, you know, was always considered the maverick. And I will tell you that he's passed that trait on to his family.
Charles Greathouse:Oh, I love that, love that so much. And you were there at the very beginning of Crystal Bridges. Yes, I've heard multiple times on my many visits there some of the origin story, the uniqueness about some of the property, characteristics, the water that's flowing through. Would you mind a short version of the space that Crystal Bridges sits in and some of the unique stories about it?
Jill Wagar:That's a really great question. The acreage that Crystal Bridges sits on was part of the Walton family land when Alice and her brothers and sisters were growing up, so it was the backyard to Sam and Helen and it was a very wooded forest in a ravine with a little stream going through it. And when they were thinking about where should we place the museum in the space, it was a dream to be able to do something on this land for the public as a gift back to the community that helped with the Waltons.
Jill Wagar:It's close proximity to downtown Bentonville, because you can walk.
Jill Wagar:It just made sense. So we were thinking like, let's put the museum up on the bluff that overlooks the water. You know you don't want to put art and water together, right? Moshe Softee came in and said no, let's put it right down here, in this middle of this ravine, and let's create these ponds. And so there's a natural spring in our property called Crystal Springs. That's the namesake for the museum and also the water source there. But during the building process we had to divert the water to go underground, so we'd have a dry construction bed and so all sorts of things. And then we found a lot. You know, Arkansas is very cavernous and so we found a lot of caves. It extended our building time by probably a year because we were having to fill these caverns to make sure that the museum was going to be on solid footing for the future.
James Harris:I remember there being a delay. I didn't know the reason yeah yeah, it's interesting.
Charles Greathouse:A lot of concrete and steel involved in a building it is and structure A lot. And wood and copper, I mean it's just. It's still something I can't not stare at when I'm, you know, riding a bike up the greenway next to it.
Jill Wagar:It really is striking One of the builders told me that there's more concrete in Crystal Bridges than in the Sears.
James Harris:Tower, oh, my goodness, driven by those caves? I don't know that, that's been fact checked yeah yeah, what a fun idea to behold.
Charles Greathouse:And that's before the 100,000 square foot.
Jill Wagar:That's right, that's right.
Charles Greathouse:Which will bring the total square footage to what?
Jill Wagar:300 and change.
James Harris:Wow, yes, so you've seen a lot of change and development with Crystal Bridges, the momentary. Have you been in Northwest Arkansas for longer than the 14 years? 20 years, 20 years, okay, so a little bit of change in that period of time. Oh my gosh.
Jill Wagar:It's a different place than what it used to be, and when our kids both live out of state and when they come to visit, they want to drive around to see what's changed since the last time that they were here, and sometimes there's always something. Some of those corners in town are just hardly recognizable anymore.
Charles Greathouse:You don't have to drive far. My kids, who are eight and six, love the big cranes, and so thank you to Crystal Bridges.
Jill Wagar:More cranes per capita than any other place.
Charles Greathouse:Alice Walton medical school Amazium. There's a lot of interconnected organizations that people might not know are all part of what Alice Walton has brought to this community. Do you mind giving us a 30,000 foot view of the things that are coming out of that group?
Jill Wagar:Yeah, sure. So Alice has is passionate about a lot of things. Art, you know, first, and was kind of one of her first passions here in the community, created Crystal Bridges. It was her nieces and nephews. It was Tom, Olivia and Stuart who created the momentary which we can talk about later.
Charles Greathouse:So the momentary. There's another good space story about the Momentary. There is the.
Jill Wagar:Momentary Crystal Bridges are the same organization. They're the same 501c3, just two locations with different purposes. But Alice also has some other passions that she really wants to help the community and the Kenfrey with. So within kind of an umbrella of Alice's organizations, she's created Art Bridges, which is a 501c3 foundation that the essential way to say it is to help get art into places in the country that don't have access to art. So it's the idea of bringing, like, the art that she helped to bring to Bentonville that didn't have art here, the idea of bringing the art that she helped to bring to Bentonville that didn't have art here.
Jill Wagar:Where are the other areas in the country that need that? So it loans art to different places throughout the country, get art out of storage, get it into public view. So the Art Bridges Foundation is one of her initiatives. The other is that we see being built is the Alice Walton School of Medicine and it is a gorgeous building that has a green roof that you're going to be able to walk on top of the way that it's built there. It's under construction. It'll be finished late next year, I think is the estimated timeline. They're accepting their first class of students right now to be able to start in the fall, obviously not in the building, but offside, and then they'll move into the building.
Charles Greathouse:I saw a LinkedIn post this week of some sort of number of hours until classes begin, and that shocked me.
Jill Wagar:Did you know that for the first five years, tuition is free? I did not. For the first five years, tuition to medical school is free? Wow, and it is. It's amazing. You can imagine the number of applicants that they've had. So okay, and so then, and also in the healthcare space, is the Heartland Whole Health Institute, and so I would say the mission of Heartland Hold Health is to change the way that health care is delivered in the United States. Yeah, you know no big yeah.
Charles Greathouse:No, big deal.
Jill Wagar:No, big deal.
James Harris:A special interest there.
Jill Wagar:Yes, a special interest, but really focusing on being proactive about health rather than reactive, which? Is really the way that our health care system operates today 100%. And then there's also the Alice Walton Foundation, which is a philanthropic arm that she gives her giving through.
Charles Greathouse:Wow, it's a lot. I mean, you can do a lot of things when you have passion. You can do a lot of things when you have resources, and I, as a beneficiary of really many of the Walton family's passions and resources, thank you. Oh my gosh, this area has so many incredible things in Northwest Arkansas that the MSA doesn't deserve, so to speak, or the MSA wouldn't be as big or as growing as it is if the investments weren't here. From mountain biking to a medical school, that's going to be front edge, and whole health is a topic near and dear to my heart, for sure.
Jill Wagar:You know, I am inspired every single day by the vision the family has. And thinking about Alice specifically, she has really big ideas and she's the first one to say but I don't know how to accomplish it. And she went, I've got to bring. She says I have to bring smart people around me who can help accomplish this vision. And she is so grateful for everyone who has embraced it, from the people who are working with it, the community that's embracing the projects that she's doing. It's just really that she's doing. It's just really that family is so humble and so remarkable and I too am very grateful for what they're doing.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, so to our audience. If you're listening, hopefully we just sound the same and sound great. If you're watching, we're in a new space. Today. We're actually at the High Impact office today. I thought I'd just acknowledge that. Welcome to our office here in North Walton, off of North Walton Boulevard, home away from home In Bentonville yes, a bit of a home away from home and behind you, which won't be on camera. Four basic values Take ownership, strive for excellence, selfless service is one that keeps triggering me as something that truly matters to the Walton family and is a characteristic that we've just sort of grown up in and certainly have formed this company around that kind of idea. The last one is people matter because, at the end of the day, it's not about the widget, it's about the people that it serves as people you get to serve with and collaborate with Businesses are people, businesses yeah, for sure.
Charles Greathouse:So when you work with a company that's very purpose-driven, can you tell us sort of what those values are across that organization?
Jill Wagar:Well, you really one of the value, the root of who we are at Crystal Bridges, and the momentary, it's about access.
Jill Wagar:So, it's about access to art. It's about access to so it's about access to art. It's about access to ideas, to things, and that one is could just be that is physically located here, that you can get to it, but also the museum is free. It is. It is absolutely free, and that's because of a gift from Walmart, who underwrote our admission. We really wanted there to never be any barrier to access, so we want people to come, and I'm still surprised at the number of people in this region who say they still haven't been to Crystal Bridges.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, that's astonishing that is a shocking oversight for anyone, as an individual, to have not experienced what Crystal Bridges has to bring.
James Harris:And speaking of access, you have a school visit program, do you not?
Jill Wagar:Oh gosh, it's amazing. So this last, in 2024, we brought 60,000 kids to Crystal Bridges on a school field trip, oh wow. Absolutely free. So we have funding and we need more of it because we have so many. We're accelerating our kids so much that our funding will pay for a school bus, for a bus driver, a substitute teacher back at the school, if they need it, a lunch while they're on site.
James Harris:No barriers.
Jill Wagar:So there's no barriers to schools or to families. We had the secretary of education for Arkansas just recently put his stamp of approval, his seal of approval, on our program, which sounds like it's not a lot, but basically what that does is it gives permission, if you will, or advocacy, for superintendents and principals and teachers to be able to bring their kids to crystal bridges because what they're learning there is actually a core part of their curriculum. And um, it's where, with our expansion, we are going to be moving up to having a hundred thousand kids a year oh, my goodness, people, goodness, that's outstanding.
Jill Wagar:People who drive all the way, drive across the state from other states. It's a huge resource. They're the best. I've shouted some of the school visits, those kids, the stuff that they say and come up with and the insights that they have are remarkable.
James Harris:No filter.
Jill Wagar:Well, there's no filter, but also it's very pure. They don't carry all the things that we carry as adults that change the way that we see something.
James Harris:Yeah, or we'll talk about it.
Jill Wagar:Yes, there are some teenagers that have hands in their pockets, but we they usually get come out of their shell eventually.
James Harris:So a large percentage of the people that listen to or watch our podcast are suppliers, and most of them are in the Northwest Arkansas community. What kind of supplier engagement opportunities are there with Crystal Bridges in the momentary?
Jill Wagar:I mean so many, I mean one. I mean I think that's probably pretty obvious to see is we have beautiful spaces and we have a lot of people who are coming to our space for corporate meetings, for dinners, for entertaining, and so certainly people can come and use our spaces. Come to our 11, our restaurant at Crystal Bridges you know to eat, and so that's, you know, one way. But we have a lot of really generous suppliers who are wanting to make a difference in arts education and are sponsoring and helping underwrite some of these programs that we're talking about that really impact these kids, and so we're really excited about the way in which a lot of people are coming to help us make a great impact.
Charles Greathouse:I mean access is a mission I think we can all get behind. Creating access to things that really open your eyes beyond the situation you might have at home or or what it's like in school or in your, your particular community to appreciate art, I think, changes your worldview.
Jill Wagar:You know, it absolutely does. There are some kids that have come from some rural areas who their highlight for coming to the museum is they've never been on an elevator before, and you know that's a cool elevator.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, you got a good view, it's a cool elevator.
Jill Wagar:But still, I mean just the way in which you're changing these kids lives, the stories that we hear from the kids, the art, it's just, it's transformational.
James Harris:And it isn't just your standard field trip. I have a personal story. I have two brothers, one of them in the fourth grade. He had a teacher that noticed he was doodling on his paper and it was pretty good. So it was the first time somebody said have you ever thought of art? And you know, within the year he's in art lessons and now every painting that's in this building is done by his hand Really became kind of a focal point of his life. Just from one person interjecting, have you thought about art?
Jill Wagar:You know, art curators and educators are really focusing on telling stories through the art, so it's not really about the object that you see it could be, but it's really about what is the that you?
Jill Wagar:see it could be, but it's really about what is the story there and the story of America. We're an American art museum, so it's the story of America through the art, so we're able to have curriculum tours that are based on history, based on math, english, I mean any of the principles it is this integrated curriculum with art can help with any subject and it's really it's sometimes. It's a way that you can break through to students who aren't learning through traditional methods Right.
Charles Greathouse:That's beautiful. I'd love to switch gears a little towards the momentary where you have some expertise. Same organization as Crystal Bridges, but a very different vibe.
Jill Wagar:Can you?
Charles Greathouse:tell us about the momentary.
Jill Wagar:Yeah, the momentary was a craft cheese plant that was decommissioned and, as I said, tom and Olivia and Stuart Walton decided that it would be a really great space, art space, and so they had an adaptive reuse remodel of the building. It opened in 2020, three weeks before the pandemic.
Charles Greathouse:Great timing.
Jill Wagar:We had this huge splash of an opening and then we say it's the most awkward beginning ever and then and then, so many stories like that, such a disruption. But then during COVID, not a lot of people were coming out. It was new. A lot of people weren't coming there. People didn't gather together in spaces.
Jill Wagar:A lot of people weren't coming there, people didn't gather together in spaces, and so it's been really in the last couple years that people are starting to really discover the momentary you're missing out. It has a very it's a cool vibe. It's more like this hometown, it's like your neighborhood space. It's the production. Quality and sound quality is some of the best in the world and we've really invested in that space to have a high quality.
Jill Wagar:Not your neighborhood speakers, no, and you're sitting on the grass and you're sitting on the grass in your own lawn chair, yeah, and it just feels really good, yeah. And so we have an outdoor series that's live on the green, and then we have an indoor series that's in our roadhouse.
James Harris:I've not been in the roadhouse yet, but I have seen Brothers Osborne on the green. That was a great show, but something that was a couple of years ago a gentleman that cuts one of my son's hair. He was talking while he's cutting his hair and he goes yeah, next weekend I'm doing, I'm a DJ and I'm doing an act at the momentary and it was so cool that somebody who's local, that's got some talent that there's a place for that to kind of take place, which I grew up in northwest Arkansas. That didn't exist when I was, you know, high school, college age, unless you played at George's on Dixon or something like that.
Jill Wagar:We're trying to be able to bring in well-known artists who we want to see, but then also have a space too for the people you're talking about for some of the local musicians to be able to have a chance to show their talent.
James Harris:Yeah. Is anything new in the vein of food music? Yeah.
Jill Wagar:So we have a food program where we have really great dinners. We bring in renowned chefs from across the country and also have local chefs. So we just launched a new food series called Supper Club and we had the first one this week and it was a local chef. It's sitting around like a farmhouse style table with a family style serving and you're hearing the chef talk about his recipes and about how his family influenced his recipes and really talking and we're hoping we create this really communal community dinner table where people are talking together. We had a guy in the back playing some records and for the right vibe and it's a really great experience, and how do you get involved as a participant with that?
Jill Wagar:You just go on the website at themomentaryorg and register and you can see the upcoming events. The Supper Club is the third Wednesday of every month.
James Harris:Okay.
Charles Greathouse:I love that.
James Harris:Yeah.
Jill Wagar:I mean, it sounds like a great time and of course you have to go to the Tower Bar while you're at the momentary have you guys been to the Tower Bar, of course, of course. It is on the sixth floor of the momentary 360 degrees of glass. It's the best view in Bentonville 60 degrees of glass.
Charles Greathouse:It's the best view in Bentonville. I can attest to that as an unbiased participant. That is the best view in Bentonville. The last time I was at a momentary event, I was square dancing in the Red Barn.
Jill Wagar:Oh, you must have been at Fresh Grass I was, and it was a good time. We have Fresh Grass coming up May 16th and 17th of this year. We have Fresh Grass coming up May 16th and 17th of this year. Yeah, and Fresh Grass is bluegrass Americana music, but also it's this really, I think wholesome traditions of square dancing and guitar picking and it's an incredible experience. Yeah.
Charles Greathouse:I think experience is a key word. So momentary brings art, it brings music, it brings a supper club. Are you kidding me? That's awesome, but also the feel of what it's like there is this experience. There's been experiential art, um, you know people uh rappelling off the side of this cheese factory.
Jill Wagar:They are coming, they're coming back awesome from the momentary's fifth anniversary, which which is on February 22nd this year.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, which is this month. We'll be releasing this in Feb.
Jill Wagar:The group is called Bandaloop and they danced off the side of the glass, the vertical glass of the tower, and they're coming back to do a performance on February 22nd.
Charles Greathouse:Awesome, and so I love that experience. I also just personally love another one of the gifts of the grandkids the experience of riding a mountain bike downhill really fast. You know, working with gravity instead of against it. It tends to work against me pretty hard, but when I'm working with it it's just, it's a lot of fun. I also really like music. There's an event coming to the momentary that might combine these.
Jill Wagar:Yeah, we're starting a brand new festival. It's called Send it South.
Charles Greathouse:Send it South. So send it is code for what I just described Harnessing the power of gravity to the fullest extent of your pleasure on a mountain bike.
Jill Wagar:So Tom Walton, who is the chair of the momentary council, says winter is the best time to ride bikes because it's cooler weather, it's not too cold, the temperature feels better. So we're having a biking and music festival every Send it south on February 7th, 8th and 9th, and the idea is that we're going to have riders coming from especially the northern states where it's cold and they don't want to ride. That they can come down here and ride, and it's the first time that we're doing it and we're super excited.
Jill Wagar:We've got a great lineup of musicians. Will Dorado is headlining and several other groups that are coming in.
Charles Greathouse:Excellent. I mean, it's hard to refer to time on something that's recorded, but that's this weekend. It should be this weekend, this should be coming out that week and I'm going to be there, no doubt about it, absolutely.
Jill Wagar:That'd be great.
Charles Greathouse:We've got to. It's all of the things I love Be off brand. If you weren't there, it would be Awesome. Well, what else is going on? What would you say to someone who's visiting Northwest Arkansas? You know, walmart has a certain draw. We end up having friends in town from different suppliers, usually for a short period of time. So you're going to be here for a short period of time. What are a couple of things you need to make sure you do before you leave town?
Jill Wagar:Well, you need to come to the momentary and crystal bridges. I would say I mean, at least you're here on brand. But I think the whole idea is that they're free, you don't have to spend a lot of money, and kind of get your money's worth, pop in pop out.
Charles Greathouse:Do you need a reservation?
Jill Wagar:No, you don't need a reservation. Do you need a?
Charles Greathouse:membership to show up.
Jill Wagar:You need a membership. Do you need to dress up? No, you just come as you are.
James Harris:Yeah, I've been in this, this space of working with Walmart, working with suppliers Most of them aren't necessarily in the area. A large percentage, I'd say at least more than half, have taken time to be at Crystal Bridges and I haven't heard anybody regret it after the fact.
Jill Wagar:Yeah, no, there's a lot of time. We have a really great exhibition coming up. It opens in March at Crystal Bridges. It's called Cause and you look it up K-A-W-S. It's by an artist, brian Donnelly, and he creates these larger-than-life kind of cartoon-type figures that have really deep meaning and it's really a fun show that you'll want to bring the family to.
James Harris:I always feel proud of our community when somebody from New York or LA or San Francisco comes to the area, goes to Crystal Bridges and says that was amazing, that was world-class.
Jill Wagar:Right now we have an exhibition at the Momentary that is best in show and it's pet photography and they are beautiful and some of them are hilarious and for the first time ever, we're allowing you to bring your leashed pet inside the Momentary to see the exhibition with you.
Charles Greathouse:To avoid breaking hearts and souls around Northwest Arkansas. From what dates to what date are you allowed to bring your your leased pup? Until now until April 13th. Oh, my goodness, I will be there and I will repeat.
Jill Wagar:Guarantee it Yachty yeah.
Charles Greathouse:Yachty. I got a new puppy, gary. He's going to Gary.
Jill Wagar:Gary, we will look for Gary oh.
Charles Greathouse:Gary, he's a little golden doodle.
Jill Wagar:We might have a little treat for him when he's leaving.
Charles Greathouse:Oh, that's amazing. What a gift Anything else you'd like to share before we hop into a lightning round?
Jill Wagar:Hey, let's go to lightning round. Okay, I'm excited.
James Harris:All right. So we, at least at High Impact, we have this fail fast and frequently kind of mindset. That's how we learn, that's how we get better. So one of your biggest failures that you've learned the most from I would say not being prepared when I needed to be.
Jill Wagar:So, especially when you're talking to maybe it's your board, it's your boss and going in, I've learned you don't go in with a problem, you go in with solutions. And really taking the time to really get all your facts together, your data together, before you really try to go have an in-depth strategic conversation.
Charles Greathouse:This is probably quite a bit earlier in your journey and something you learned from about once, I think for most of us. You feel that experience and okay, yeah.
James Harris:I remember being in front of a group and realizing I didn't do enough prep for this.
Charles Greathouse:I had to make it through the day, and it doesn't happen more than once, oh yeah.
Jill Wagar:I heard one time someone say that if you have a meeting with your supervisor and there's some things that you need to talk about, that you should spend at least the same amount of time preparing for it as the meeting is.
Charles Greathouse:At least Wise counsel. I like that. What's on your reading list?
Jill Wagar:Right now. Well, I just got invited to a book club Awesome and the next one that I'm going to is you're supposed to take a how-to book and like talk about just yourself. Like one of the how-to books you looked, I was like I don't know that I've read any how-to books in a while, so right now I am reading Talk Like Ted, like Ted Talks.
James Harris:Like Ted Talks yeah.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah.
James Harris:I know a Ted and I try to talk like him. That's different. I love it, and we're new into a new year. What's the one thing when you look back on 24? That was a new learning, an aha.
Jill Wagar:I would say it was a reminder. So not unless it's something that's new, but that culture eats strategy for breakfast. Amen, all right, that's new, but that culture eats strategy for breakfast.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, man, all right.
Jill Wagar:And really making sure that the culture of your place and of your team feels supported and they have the right culture, or it's going to be harder to be able to create the success that you want in your strategy? I agree.
James Harris:I think sometimes we confuse vision for strategy. Vision needs to come from the visionary or the visionary group, but the strategy can be a much more organic development and having the right culture in place really empowers that.
Charles Greathouse:Yeah, I mean that's the exclamation point on 24, as well as purpose and focus as we go into a successful 25.
James Harris:Yeah, Well, thank you so much, Jill. It's been fun talking to you and learning a little bit more about Crystal Bridges and Momentary yeah, well, thanks.
Jill Wagar:I really appreciate you having us out, and any suppliers who want to get involved with what we're doing just give us a call. We'll be happy to help you out, and I'm going to be watching for you at Send it South.
Charles Greathouse:Oh, I believe it, you at Send.
Jill Wagar:It South? Oh, I believe it. And in Best in Show, we'll spread some nar together. Yeah, and I'll be looking for you at the Supper Club and the bar.
James Harris:That's right, you'll find us there, I'm sure. Thank you, jill, and to the listeners, thank you, as always, for tuning in or watching us on YouTube. You can feel free to like, subscribe all the things, and we'll see you back here next time. Thanks,
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