Hanging Out 4ever
We couldn’t find a therapist, so we started a podcast. After 7 years of dating we nearly came to a breaking point and decided it was time to try something new, to talk about our feelings and record them. Our podcast is not the highlight reel of our relationship, it is our relationship, as authentic as possible. Dating and long term relationships can be difficult. Especially, when the internet seems so focused on only happy moments. We share our truth and hope it resonates with you and makes you feel less alone in the dating/ Long Term Relationship world.
Let's all figure this dating thing out together.✨
-Aja & Grant
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Hanging Out 4ever
Have You Ever Thought of Cheating on Me?
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Have Grant and I ever thought of cheating on each other? And could he live without me?
Over the last 30 days, we've gained a ton of new besties!! (Welcome in!!) so we figured that it would be cute and fun to do a lil couples quiz episode, so we can share more about us, our relationship, and some of the obstacles we went through to make it to nine years.
So if you're new here, this will be a cute little roadmap of our relationship and our dynamic all the way from how we first met to where we are now and if you've been a Bestie for a while, this will be a cute little refresher!
And definitely ask your partner some of these questions!
As always, let us know what you think about this episode and welcome in to all our new besties. We're so happy you're here!!
BTW: We are developing a relationship connection card deck for you to ask deep, personal and fun questions with your partner that have helped us make it to where we are! Can't wait to share more on this and help y'all explore and navigate conversation with each otherđź’“
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-Grant & Aja
If I died tomorrow, what would you remember most about me and how would you move on?
SPEAKER_03I wouldn't be able to live without you. I wouldn't be able to get through something like that.
SPEAKER_00If I cheated on you, I'd have to tell you. I would either sabotage our relationship so you had to break up with me, or I would just tell you.
SPEAKER_03The first thing I noticed about you, not gonna lie, was that booty. It was looking good that day.
SPEAKER_00What's the craziest thing you've ever seen me do?
SPEAKER_03Be pissed in my dryer. And I'm pretty sure there was some clothes in there too. Is there something from your past that made you afraid of commitment?
SPEAKER_00My childhood. I love my dad very much, but like he wasn't great to my mom. What's up, y'all? Welcome to the Hanging Out Forever podcast. My name is Asia Corinne, your host. Your host.
SPEAKER_03Beautiful host. And beautiful singer. Beautiful voice.
SPEAKER_00My boyfriend of nine years. Grant Blackwell, looking real cool. I call him Grant Hatwell now because now he's well wearing hats.
SPEAKER_02I'm a hat guy now. Yeah, where would have?
SPEAKER_00Who would have thought? Put it on forward and then put it on backwards. There's this one video. Okay.
SPEAKER_03My hair is like perfectly quoffed back.
SPEAKER_00Qaffed. Mm-hmm. There's this one video of this one girl being like, when my hand husband wears his hat forwards, it's like, oh, I love you. And then where he wears it backwards, he goes, Smack my ass like the drum. Like it's the vibe.
SPEAKER_02That's a vibe.
SPEAKER_00It is the vibe. I do feel that way. Yeah. So anyway, we have a bunch of new besties that have just joined the Hanging Out Forever Universe. So welcome, besties. Welcome. We thought it'd be appropriate, since this is a lot of you guys' first introduction to us, to do a couples episode. Couples could get to know us. Get to know the podcast.
SPEAKER_03Get to know the podcast.
SPEAKER_00Yes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Beyond the listener letters, which by the way come out the second Tuesday of every month. Okay? That way you guys know when to get your listener letters hot off the press. And as a friendly reminder, our listener letters are 100% original. Whatever we get is directly sent to us. We do not source from the internet. And if you're hearing our stories someplace else, either that person for some reason submitted it to us and then put it on another podcast or it was stolen, which is more likely. Okay. We've built a very kind and very vulnerable community. And I just don't believe that the people who share stories with us would go and share it with anybody else.
SPEAKER_03I just don't but yeah, but we don't, we don't, you know, find them on the internet, anything like that. We only do the ones that get sent into us. Um, it's way more personable. And we actually hope that those people are actually listening to you know the advice or our own experience of whatever they may be going through.
SPEAKER_00So all right, let's get into our listener letter episode that is about no, I'm sorry. Huh? Okay, let's get into our couples quiz episode. Let's do it. Do you want to go first or do you want me to go first?
SPEAKER_03You go first.
SPEAKER_00Okay. What has being with me taught you about yourself?
SPEAKER_03Man, um being with you has really taught me a lot about myself. It's really taught me that I could just be more, you know. I think that I think it was really hard for me to see more for myself in the future. Not that I didn't see myself having a future or um doing the things I loved, but you really made me reach high. You know, I mean, because I always I always had big dreams for myself, but I just didn't know how I would do it or how I would get there or how I would gain the confidence to get there. And you give me a lot of confidence, you really do. You give me a lot of confidence and you make me feel like you know, I'm good at the things I do, and I can be confident in that and I can really work hard, and you know, I do still have my flaws, but you make me feel like I can get through anything. So you really you really have helped me a lot in my life, honestly.
SPEAKER_00That's so sweet.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, you've put me on the path that I'm on, like you really helped me with that, and I'll always be appreciative of that.
SPEAKER_00Wow, that was a great answer. Oh my god. I do believe you can do anything, and I feel like you're amazing at what you're good at. You're great at what you're great at.
SPEAKER_03That's true.
SPEAKER_00Mm-hmm. And ain't nobody better than you.
SPEAKER_03Let's go.
SPEAKER_00Period. Okay. The second the goat. Um, the second question is when did you realize that you first love me? And what was the one moment that stuck out the most to you?
SPEAKER_03The moment I really the moment I realized I first loved you. Well, I remember the day that I first told you I loved you, which was uh we were in Koreatown. I think we were getting our we were hitting our ramen spot, our ice cream spot. We were hitting the, you know, the classics. And I don't even remember what we were doing. I think we were like taking photos or something. We had a camera and we were just going around Koreatown, taking photos of each other. And I just remember that I don't I don't exactly remember where we were, but I just remember looking at you, and I was probably holding you, and I gave you a you know a little kiss on the cheek or a kiss on the forehead, and I think it just slipped out. I didn't even it wasn't even a moment of oh, I was planning to say this. It just kind of slipped out. I think that's the way you gotta do it, you know. It was very organic, it felt very natural. And I I'm sure that I had loved you before I said it, you know. I I had definitely felt it before I actually said it. And yeah, I don't know. That was that, but I'll always remember the day that I said that.
SPEAKER_00Me too. It was cute because we were in Korea town and we were walking down the street. I don't know what we were doing, and we were just like all over each other, whatever. And you said I said something, and you were like, Oh, please, you know I love you, or something like that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it just kind of slipped in. Something like that.
SPEAKER_00And I was like, You what? You what? And you tried to cover it up by being all cool and you were like, do it look like I'm left off bad and bougie.
SPEAKER_03I remember saying that. Oh my gosh, this was the this was the freaking uh the Joe Budden uh takeoff. Yeah. Or uh offset. Offset or takeoff.
SPEAKER_00I think it was takeoff.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, this was the Joe Budden takeoff interview era.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Looked like I was left off bad and bougie. That's so funny. Yeah, that's it. That was your response.
SPEAKER_00It was so cute. I was like, what'd you say? You were like, I say nothing. You're like, what'd you say? You were like, does it look like I'm left off bad and bougie? I have a video actually. I have a video right after you said that where you kept saying the bad and bougie thing.
SPEAKER_03It's funny because we took we took a picture that day. We took a selfie that day, and that picture always pops up on my phone as a memory. Oh really? I was wearing and I was wearing that Phoenix Suns jersey. I remember I remember it so vividly.
SPEAKER_00That's sweet.
SPEAKER_03I forgot about the bad and bougie part, but yeah, that sounds like something I'd say. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00It was cute, it was very romantic. Okay, you want to go next?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so so yeah, we'll do two and two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay. What was the first thing you noticed about me and did you find me attractive?
SPEAKER_00Um, the first thing I noticed about you was we were okay, so Grant never likes to tell people where we met. I'm gonna tell y'all. We met at the cheesecake factory.
SPEAKER_03Oh, look at me.
SPEAKER_00Don't he hates that story. And so we were we were like both servers there. We worked at the cheesecake factory, and he was talking to some server, and you were like, Oh, do you know those guys over there? Those are Chief Keefe's homies. And I said, What does white boy know about Chief Keefe? I said, Because I'm I'm from Atlanta originally, and it was very weird like coming to LA because I couldn't connect with anybody over music or culture because like especially in the valley, so it was just very different. And I remember you were like, That's Chief Keith's homie. I thought what did white boy know about Chief Keith? And so the first thing I noticed was like, White boy, Chief Keefe, where the hell is he from? But I did think you were cute when we first met. I thought you were super, I thought you were pro I thought you were pretty cute.
SPEAKER_03But you were like, his taste in music's probably pretty good, pretty solid.
SPEAKER_00That was something that immediately hooked me in. Yeah, because I felt so isolated in LA because I couldn't could I would be like, I would talk to people, be like, oh, you know Gucci man. They'd be like, who? I'd be like, Gucci, like live in Evelyn Guap.
SPEAKER_02Doi.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Mistake versus Raderick Davis. Y'all know about that?
SPEAKER_02Uh hello. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So so I just felt so isolated. And when you said that, I was like, somebody I could click up with. And I did think that you were handsome. What was the first thing you noticed about me?
SPEAKER_03The first thing I noticed about you, I'm not gonna lie, was that booty. I'm not gonna lie to you. It was looking good that day. You had your, because we worked at a restaurant, you had your little apron tied. Uh-huh. It was real tight, real snatched on the waist. And uh, I just remember turning around the corner, literally, and I had some bread or some shit. And I just like turned and I look, I was like, whoa, yeah, it caught me off guard a little bit. No, and I had I remember the first week I forgot to buy non-slip shoes, so I was like freaking, you know what I mean? I was slipping all over the place. Do you remember that? That was bad. That was really bad. I fell so many times, it was really messed up. But that was the first thing I saw, obviously. And then uh when you turned around, I was like, Okay, she's cute. She's cute.
SPEAKER_00Okay, she's not a butterface, she's not a butterface.
SPEAKER_03And I was like, she's cute. And then the thing happened where I was talking about um Chief Keefe, Chief Keefe's friend, like Tao or whatever, was in there, and I was like, Oh my gosh. That was kind of like my first running with a celebrity in LA. And yeah, and you that's when you started talking to me.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm pretty sure I said, What you know about Chief Keefe?
SPEAKER_03I know, yeah. I think I or no, I think it was what it was. I was like talking about Chief Keefe, and I was trying to explain to this guy who Chief Keefe was. He's like, Oh, that's why you're right. I was like, Chief Keefe, like I love so I mentioned Gucci Man, and you were right there. Yeah, and well, and I was like, I was like, he's uh he's kind of signed to Gucci Man because that's when he was kind of getting under uh um uh what's it called? Whatever Brick Squad, not Brick Squad, but uh he was kind of with So I see. So I see, yeah. He was kind of in the Gucci sphere. Yeah, and uh I was trying to explain, and then you're like, what do you know about Gucci Man? Right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00You brought him up. Yeah, and that's Gucci, you invited to our wedding. It's Gucci. If you come and you play uh lemonade and wasted and bring and we want the old Gucci, we don't want the clone, yeah. Right, yeah, we want that state versus Raderick Davis Gucci.
SPEAKER_03We don't want the six-pack Gucci, but um, okay, cool. All right, but yeah, that was um okay. Okay, so I'll I'll do my second question. Um, in the beginning of our relationship, was it hard dating a white guy?
SPEAKER_00Um for me, it definitely was, but it's like it wasn't hard dating you, but it was hard dating a white guy, I would say. Because um, like I said, I've said this before on the podcast, I never really saw myself dating a white guy. Like that just didn't really occur to me. You know, I'm in I'm from Atlanta, and I guess I went to like some white schools up until I was in like the fifth or sixth grade, like totally white, but it never it never really clicked to me that that would happen. And so, but now I think about it, I'm like, I was chanting Tatum was my very first crush ever. Yeah, and this is back in the day where you'd have a little binder and all of them are color-coded for the classes, so it's like math is red, math is red. Okay. I don't want to hear anybody talking about math is green, math is red, English is blue, science is green. Everybody knows that. Have you heard of that?
SPEAKER_02I don't even know what the hell you're talking about.
SPEAKER_00What? You haven't seen that conversation online where it's like, what color binder is science? And science should be green, math is red, English should be blue.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Interesting. Well, anyway, math is red.
SPEAKER_03And I mean, you still have your binders from like elementary school, so you would know.
SPEAKER_00I never stopped learning.
SPEAKER_03I know.
SPEAKER_00But um, I had Channing Tatum plastered all over this binder, and I was just in love with him. So I guess I should have known. But the hardest part for me was how I saw myself, and then I started kind of questioning my identity because I didn't understand what dating a white man meant about me. Yeah. Um, because you know, growing up black, there's a lot of education that goes into raising black children, especially like when you are pre preparing them for a white world. And um, it was really difficult at first because I started questioning like what that meant about me, and like, am I a traitor? Am I this? Am I that? So I had some identity issues that I had to overcome. And then also I would experience a lot of racism from white people in the beginning, where it's like they're looking at us like that doesn't make sense. And then um also, you know, black people as well. I felt as though I was like a traitor, and then I would go certain places, and men would try to like make a move on me on purpose just to see what kind of man you were. And that was very difficult for me. Yeah, um, because a lot of the men that we ran into were like dangerous. Like one time, you guys, because he's white, we were in uh Vegas, and and some girl was blaring some music, and I started just twerking on the street. And these uh this group of dudes came up and they were like, Yeah, shake that ass, bitch. Let us see that ass, bitch.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, just crazy.
SPEAKER_00Grant was not having it. And you said something to them and they were like, I didn't even I didn't even think about it.
SPEAKER_03I just like snapped right away. I didn't even I don't think I even saw who said it. I just turned around and like snapped and then saw who said it. And I was like, all right, we're doing this. Uh well, I can't back down now. You know what I mean? So I didn't I didn't back down.
SPEAKER_00And then they were like, we're gonna go get our homies, we're gonna come and shoot you.
SPEAKER_03And then we're scurried away. We didn't run like no bitches, but we were like, we were like, in motion while the conversation was happening. When the conversation escalated to that, I was still talking my shit, but we were we were we were walking, we were in public space, we were making sure there were witnesses, we were in motion, yeah.
SPEAKER_00So that was difficult for me, but also I felt like you were it wasn't that you always always understood what I was going through, but you never tried to deny my lived experience because your lived experience wasn't the same. And I think that that was something that made it easier for us to overcome any issues that are especially like racialized in our relationship, is because you were really receptive to it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And like you never made me feel like I couldn't share things with you. So it wasn't really hard. It was hard on a personal level. I don't want to say it was hard generally, um, and you made it as easy as it as it could be.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I think I think as a white guy dating a beautiful black woman as yourself, um, you really just have to think outside of the way you've been taught and raised your entire life, pretty much, and the experience that you have experienced, that I have experienced. I had to really get outside of that when we started dating because you were telling me that you were having a certain experience, and it was hard for me to wrap my head around it at first. But then, you know, I just know that you're one of the smartest, most intelligent people. Um, you're very intuitive, and you know what's going on around you in your environment. And so I just had to trust and be like, you know what you're talking about, you know, and I had to set my ego aside, set aside all the things that I thought I knew, and be like, you know what, I'm gonna trust her and I'm going to um just be there for you, really. Because there were some times where you were having a really hard time through it, and I just wanted to make sure that I was there for you at the end of the day. I was there for you, and I needed to learn whatever I needed to learn or um be understanding and let you express yourself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03And I think that was the biggest thing is just kind of getting outside of myself and making sure that I'm not letting myself get in the way of you being able to communicate with me in those moments. And I think that that's how we got through that. Yeah, you know, because if I just kept putting on if I had just kept putting up barriers of like, oh no, this isn't your experience, like I don't see it that way, or I've never experienced this, or I don't see it on a day-to-day basis, that doesn't mean that it's not happening. Yeah, yeah, it's just not my experience.
SPEAKER_00I love that. Yeah, and I we last thing I'll say is that because we do talk about being an interracial couple, there are there have been recently like some white men that'll come onto our page and be like, I have a biracial wife, or I'm in a biracial relationship, which is not the correct term. You're in an interracial relationship, but they'll be like, I'm in a biracial relationship and I have a biracial child. Interracial relationship, biracial child, two different things. And the men will say things like, they'll be like, and that's not my experience, and she's never experienced that, and we don't have that issue. And I think that white men have a difficult time getting outside of themselves because the world is so um, the world is crafted for the white male experience. And so when white men date women of color, specifically black women, and they're not asking those questions, they just assume that black women aren't going through anything that like their experience, they're not having a racialized experience or they're not having a difficult time navigating the interracial relationship because it's not being talked about. So the white man just ends up thinking, like, oh, well, we don't have this problem. You don't know if she has that problem though. Like you don't, if she's not bringing it up, it could just be that she's going through something solo and she doesn't talk to you about it.
SPEAKER_03I think it's because white men don't want to have that bigger conversation that's at the foundation of that issue.
SPEAKER_00Because we've talked about slavery many a time.
SPEAKER_03Yep, and it's pretty awkward. But um they you know what I mean. But you gotta do it, you know what I mean? You have to put it on the table.
SPEAKER_02Repent.
SPEAKER_03But most white people, they don't want to even think about that. So any type, anytime somebody brings it up, they don't even want to, you know, come even close to scratching the surface of it because they don't want it to spiral into this actual conversation where it's like you need to atone, and it's like, I never needed you to atone, but I needed you to be understanding of the larger picture, yeah, for sure, and the context of that and what that means for us today.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, especially if like we're gonna have kids.
SPEAKER_02No, for sure. The hell?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, okay, great. Okay. What are three things that you find attractive or sexy about me?
SPEAKER_03Um, well, one, you're like I said, you are the most intelligent person I've ever met. You're so quick. Um, I love that you're you're very open-minded with new things, and so that helps get me out of my box a lot. And you speak your mind, which is very good because sometimes I can be, you know, a little bit more reserved, and it's it's tougher for me to get the words out or to express myself. And you do a great job at expressing yourself, and it honestly like I feel like I learned from it, like I'm able to be like, oh, she does it this way. And so let me try to see if I can do that or mimic it in a way, you know. It it really helps me just pull myself out of my box. Um I love how caring you are, you know, you're you're so caring to the people around you, and it's really inspiring to me because I feel like I can get I can be selfish and um I can sometimes forget about the things that aren't right in front of me, the people that aren't right in front of me, but you're so good at just thinking of everybody, you know. Even if they're miles away, you always think of them, you're always reaching out, and um that's that's just something that's really like inspirational to me, and I want to get better at, you know.
SPEAKER_00That was great.
SPEAKER_03And so what else was it?
SPEAKER_00It was it was what are three things you find attractive and sexy about me?
SPEAKER_03Okay, the things I think sexy about you is um well, I just I really love your style. I think it's really sexy.
SPEAKER_00Do you? Do you like this outfit?
SPEAKER_03I love that outfit. I think you're really sexy, man. I love your I love the boots, I love the nails, I love the aesthetic. You're always on point.
SPEAKER_00Really? Oh my god. Take me now.
SPEAKER_03No, you are, you really are.
SPEAKER_00Thank you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I thought I love that. And I I hate it's funny because guys are always like, I don't need her to wear makeup, I don't need her to do this and do that. And it's like, I think your girl just doesn't know how to do her makeup. You know what I mean? Because like, look at this, she looks amazing, and that took time, that took work, and she she looks beautiful without it, obviously, but she looks amazing with it too.
SPEAKER_00Thank you. That's so sweet. Damn, you like my style?
SPEAKER_03I love it.
SPEAKER_00You're so sweet. Okay, I'm gonna tell you something that I think is sexy about you. Okay, and this isn't necessarily it's like to me, it's like very attractive. I think a man that knows his limits is incredibly sexy and incredibly attractive because a man that knows his limits can showcase that he understands discernment, oftentimes right or wrong. And to me, I think a man that knows his limits tends to be a little bit more empathetic of other people because he's understanding of his own boundaries. And this has been my experience with you.
SPEAKER_02Interesting.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And I just think that it's very sexy that you know your own limits because if you don't know your own limits and your own boundaries, then I could never expect you to respect mine. So I think that that's something that makes you very sexy and attractive to me is like when we go out, you you drink, right? You might get drunk, might get fucked up, but you're never gone.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03Like you're never I think I know when I just know when to pump the brakes in situations.
SPEAKER_00In every in every situation.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I know when to not speak, when to listen.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_03You really know how to like see that.
SPEAKER_00Not I don't want to say play the game to make it seem like it's like gamified, right? But it's more so just like you do life in a way that's so reserved and stoic. And I find that very sexy and very attractive.
SPEAKER_03Well, I like I like sitting back and just kind of watching people too, honestly. I like listening to people. Because I never want to be that guy that's talking too much or doing too much in the moment, which could probably hold me back in some cases, you know, where I'm not putting myself out there enough. But I I like to just kind of sit back and watch. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I I want to clarify like, it's not that you know your limits as in you're limited. It's just you know where your boundaries are.
SPEAKER_03Got it.
SPEAKER_00And I think that that's very attractive.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I I've always thought that about myself. Yeah, I appreciate that.
SPEAKER_00Me too. It's hot. I'm like, this man understands his boundaries and he respects his boundaries. Who's this? Who's this white? Let's get to know this whitey.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Is it my turn? I don't remember.
SPEAKER_00Uh that's technically one question.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00So I'll ask you another one. This one's kind of sad.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_00If I died tomorrow, what Jesus. Okay.
SPEAKER_03Okay. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Just ask it. Just ask it.
SPEAKER_00He hates it when I ask him questions.
SPEAKER_03She loves going dark. Just go.
SPEAKER_00Okay, I won't go.
SPEAKER_03No, just go. Go ahead.
SPEAKER_00Okay. If I died tomorrow, what would you remember most about me and how would you move on?
SPEAKER_03Um, I would remember where you put all your drugs and I would take all of them and I would see the next day.
SPEAKER_00Grant.
SPEAKER_03Can we say that?
SPEAKER_00No. You said you would see the next day.
SPEAKER_03I would see you the next day.
SPEAKER_00Oh no, I'm making it too long.
SPEAKER_03I'm sorry, but like I wouldn't be able to live without you. At this point, like I just would not be able to live without you. I'm sorry. There's no, you know, you passing away or something, God forbid. And I'm getting over it. There's just not, that's not gonna happen, you know? And that's something I've accepted. That I it's like sorry, that's pretty crazy, but I know this is like maybe a hot take or something, but that's something that I would never be able to to bounce back and do. You know, I I just what am I gonna go do? Like go go to my job or go continue to work and create. Like we create together, you know. And I I just I would lose all passion for life, you know, if I didn't have you with me.
SPEAKER_01So you're so sweet.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's sad. It's sad to think about. I'm not gonna cry, but it is really I don't even want to think about not having you, you know, in my life. You know, I mean it's different if we broke up or something, but if you were just taken from me like that, like I wouldn't be able to get through something like that. I just I know myself and I know I would not want to push through. You know, I'm gonna cry.
SPEAKER_00I should have got a paper tape.
SPEAKER_03Nothing's gonna happen, baby.
SPEAKER_00Nothing's gonna happen. Here we got we got some wood to knock on now.
SPEAKER_03I'm good. We're gonna live a long, healthy life.
SPEAKER_00I feel the same way though. I know that seems psychotic, but if something happens to you, I'll see you tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I'll see you tomorrow.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. I'll see you tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03Okay, all right. Should we move on?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, don't don't, we're not giving you guys advice. Don't do that. That's just what I would say.
SPEAKER_03No, don't do not take that as advice.
SPEAKER_00Do not take that as advice.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um, this is pretty deep, too.
SPEAKER_00Okay.
SPEAKER_03Is there something from your past that made you afraid of commitment in the beginning of our relationship?
SPEAKER_00That's a good one. Um I would say that the majority of my childhood made me afraid of commitment. Um I love my dad very much, but like he wasn't great to my mom. Yeah. He was horrible to her, actually. And he cheated on her a lot, and she felt like crazy and like very manipulated. And I don't think that I ever thought a man could do me like that because I've always had a very hard exterior where I'm like, ain't no man gonna, ain't no man, I'm not finna let a man do X, Y, and Z. And I remember that being a big issue in the beginning of our relationship is when you would try to set a boundary with me. You would be like, hey, I don't like you when you do this. I'd be like, I'm not letting a man tell me what to do. Yeah. Because I felt like respecting my man's boundaries was me disrespecting my desires and my autonomy. I felt that respecting my man's boundaries and things that he did or did not want me to do was me giving up my autonomy. And I felt like it was anti-feminism. And I'm not even one of those people that's like feminism, I'm a feminist, you know what I mean? But I am very much like women gonna do why women do, you know? Yeah. Um, and they don't regret it, and they don't regret it. But that was really hard for me in the beginning of our relationship, is when you try to set a boundary with me, I like refused to respect it because I had the deep-seated belief that a man that tries to set boundaries with you for what he wants you to do and what he doesn't want you to do is priming you to control you. And I have always refused to be controlled or manipulated or taken advantage of by a man in any way. Yeah, and I think that that made me really, really hard in the beginning of our relationship. Yeah, huge chip on the shoulder. So it took me a long time to realize that you weren't out to get me. And I think that that was the hardest thing for me to unlearn. Yeah. Is I I've seen a lot of relationships growing up, namely the one between my parents, where I felt like the purpose of men in relationships was to get their women, like they were out to get them. And I'm looking at all these relationships growing up, and like nobody's really happy, and the women are kind of miserable, or they're settling for this guy because it just makes sense. And I never wanted to settle with a guy because it made sense. And um, I I did not know that relationships could be as healthy as ours is, that I could be so fully myself with somebody that's not my family, especially a man. I had no idea that I could be loved so fully, so thoughtfully, and so softly by somebody, especially because I wasn't soft, like I was a super hard person.
SPEAKER_02Yeah.
SPEAKER_00And I think that being with a guy like you, because you're soft, but not like you're not a pussy, but you're soft. And uh one of my gentle, one of my friends, she said something, she said, a soft place to land. And I I think about that frequently. And I think that you are a soft place to land, and your softness has made me softer, and in ways I didn't think I would be able to. So that would be something from my childhood, right? Was that the question?
SPEAKER_03It was it was like some what it was. Was there something from your past that that gave you commitment issues? And yeah, I think that um I think I've always just approached you with understanding and patience, and I think that's what you needed from somebody. And so I was happy to give it to you because you're so amazing in so many different ways. And so I just wanted to pull my weight in the relationship and uh make sure that I'm uh providing you with that.
SPEAKER_00I appreciate that. I love you so much.
SPEAKER_03I love you, baby. What is the biggest change you've seen in me throughout our relationship?
SPEAKER_00The biggest change I've seen in you is that you've just become a lot more bold and a lot more confident, and you take up space now in a way where you don't feel like you have to ask for permission or forgiveness to take up space. That's a pretty easy answer for me. Also, you're like way better at communicating. You're head and shoulders above where you were when we first started dating, as it in regards to expressing your feelings and letting your feelings be known. And I'm not gonna lie, like I'm not always the easiest person to express feelings to, and you still, you know, power through that when I'm not being receptive. And um, but just watching you become more confident, yeah. Because when we first got together, I thought, oh, he's a little shy guy, even though you were kind of bold. But once we like actually started having a serious relationship, I felt that you were starting to retract in a way where like you became more shy. Because I think our relationship and the seriousness of it was a gravity that you weren't quite ready for at the time. It was it was that and so I felt that like when we were friends, I was like, damn, he's so cool. And he like doesn't give a fuck. But then we started dating and you got we got really serious, it started feeling like you were just like retracting into this shell. Um, yeah, because you weren't ready for what we were building, and neither was I to be honest.
SPEAKER_03Like it just kind of like I think as things got more serious, the weight started to uh be put on me for sure. And then the confidence came from being able to express myself more and express myself more confidently and us being able to communicate properly. That's when the confidence came in because I was like, okay, yeah, I got this. You know what I mean? And um then that's how I you know slowly started to feel about everything, like how to provide and how to do um how to initiate and all these things. The confident confidence grew once I found the path of how to figure those things out, you know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's great. And I I see that in you every day. I see that in how you communicate with me, how you communicate with your family, how you do business and you communicate with business. Cause you know, like I'm not, I've been open about this. I'm not the easiest person to be with. And I think that being with me and what what my level of communication is emotionally, yeah, um, has allowed you to figure out how to better navigate a lot of things. And I'm not taking credit for it.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to say, like, oh, it's because being like interacting with you and having conversations with you, like having conversations with other people is like a breeze now. Because like uh I don't know, you're just you're so smart, and and um I think like arguing with you has definitely sharpened uh my wit a little bit, you know what I mean? Because now I'm not afraid of like any type of verbal confrontation with anybody, you know what I mean? Before I would like when I was young, I wouldn't even have verbal confrontation with people, I would just like whoop their ass or something, honestly, because I didn't want to get it there, I didn't want them to be smarter than me or wittier than me or say something funny to me or nothing like that. Like I would just kind of jump to the conclusion, you know what I mean? And uh interesting, yeah, that's how it was back in the day for sure. But now I'm like, I don't I don't give a shit about having like a verbal confrontation with somebody, you know what I mean? Because I've I've gone with the best, gone with the best of them. So, but it's no, it's helped me in so many ways though. Like, I I feel confident um communicating with people now because you know you've taught me a lot about myself and how I communicate and what's the best way for me to communicate. And that's just helped me in all aspects of my life.
SPEAKER_00You're sweet. I love you. You've helped me in all aspects of my life. Okay. Um I got some good ones. I'm almost done, I think.
SPEAKER_03I got some toxic ones. Ooh, yeah. This is for you, filthy animals out there.
SPEAKER_00Um, okay. Let's go with the crazy. What's the craziest thing you've ever seen me do?
SPEAKER_03The craziest thing. Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00I know what it is.
SPEAKER_03I know you probably do. This was um in the beginning of our relationship. I think this was the first time that we got like really drunk with each other. I'm pretty sure. I think that was um probably the drunkest I've ever seen you in my life. And we were at my old place, we were drinking all night. Uh, I'm pretty sure I was like, okay, you gotta go to bed. So I put I put you in the bed, and I was just kind of chilling on the couch in the living room watching a movie or something. And I see you kind of stumble out of the room, and I'm like, hey, how you doing over there? You know, and you were just kind of fumbling around, and I was like, What is she doing? And then she started going in my dryer. She opened up my dryer and I was like, What is she doing? She doesn't have clothes in there. And then you literally like pull down your pants, prop up your butt like you're about to sit on a toilet. And I was like, What is she doing? And then you put your butt in the dryer, you sat on it like it was a damn toilet, and you pissed in my dryer. And I'm pretty sure there were some clothes in there too. No, there might have been.
SPEAKER_00Really?
SPEAKER_03I don't remember, but that definitely happened.
SPEAKER_00That did happen.
SPEAKER_03That was crazy.
SPEAKER_00I know. I've never been that drunk. Yeah. Well, one the one time I was in high school and I thought I was dying. I was pretty drunk that night. But that's the most drunk I've ever been since.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. I like I just don't know how you I don't know.
SPEAKER_00I remember you yelling at me, like I feel like I was coming in and out of consciousness.
SPEAKER_03Like, Asia, what are you doing?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, actually, no, I don't think I remember any of that, but I remember what you told me about it. And you were, I was like, you're like, you're pissing in my dryer. And I said, I'm pissing in the driveway. I know.
SPEAKER_03I know it's all good. That would still not be normal. That's not good.
SPEAKER_00It's all good.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, I thought that that would be yours. Yeah. Did you look at me differently? I was so hungover.
SPEAKER_03I don't think I looked at you. But I was just like, How do you do that? How do you mistake a dryer? Which is so I guess now that I'm thinking about it, like if you're when you're in that room, there's one door that goes into the bathroom, and then there's one door that goes into the hallway right there. So you probably mistook, you know, mis had mistaken the door. You went into the hallway. Instead of lifting up the seat, you opened up the door to the dryer, and then you just popped your button there and you.
SPEAKER_00What did you do after like how'd you clean that? You just ran the dryer?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I was just like propped up, like chilling on the couch, and then I see you like walk, walk out, do the whole thing. I was like, What are you are you pissing in the dryer? What are you doing? It was like I was like, that's a dryer. Yeah, I don't even know. I don't even remember how I cleaned that or anything. I don't remember any of it.
SPEAKER_00You just ran the dryer. Heat that piss up.
SPEAKER_03Heat that piss up. Yeah, I don't remember what I did, but um, that was pretty insane.
SPEAKER_00That was insane.
SPEAKER_03That was probably the craziest thing I've ever seen you do.
SPEAKER_00It it was crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Um seen you do a lot of crazy things without a lot of things. A lot of crazy things, guys. Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_00And that's number one. Okay. When you made your first move on me, what was going through your head?
SPEAKER_03Man, when I made my first move on you.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I mean, there was a couple times we hung out when I was like, definitely, you know, throwing some hints at you when we were just homies. We were just friends.
SPEAKER_00There was this one time he we he we had gone out. Sorry to interrupt you. But there was this one time we had gone out. This is what I'm talking about. Oh, you were oh, tell us.
SPEAKER_03No, no, go ahead, go ahead. Were you gonna tell it? No, you say it. You say it.
SPEAKER_00Were you gonna tell it though?
SPEAKER_03No, you say it, and then I'll say the first time that I actually put a move on you.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. Sorry, I didn't know you were gonna tell that story, but I'll tell it real quick. So there was this one time we were hanging out, and I was like grumpy about something, and we were not dating at the time, and I wanted to go to a pool hall that ended up being our thing is we would go to this like dive bar pool hall across the street. We'd play pool, which is kind of sexy because it's like, look at my ass, it's doo-da-da.
SPEAKER_02It's a vibe.
SPEAKER_00And um, you dropped me off at home, and you were like, You're going upstairs. And I was like, eh, yeah, and and I was like, Yeah, I am. And I thought I was so cool. I was wearing this black lipstick, I had dressed all gothic because I was like really into that at the time. And you were like, You should kiss me before you go upstairs. And I was like, and and you were like, You should kiss me. I know you want to kiss me. And I was like, I'm feeling it in my loins, but I didn't kiss him. Yeah, I remember but that was hot. I was like, I really wanted to, I know, but I didn't.
SPEAKER_03I know. But um the first time that I like made a move on you and it landed was uh when we were you were hanging out at my house. It was like the past couple nights, you had just been we had just been hanging out together, and we're sitting out in the living room, it's getting late. I'm like, yo, you don't have to go home if you don't want to, you can sleep on the couch. And you're like, Yeah, I'll do that. And so you were sleeping on the couch, I went into the bed, nothing happened. But then the next night, you it was the same situation. We were up late, hanging out, having a good time, and I'm like, Okay, let's um let's go to sleep. And uh, I remember walking into the room and you're posted on the couch. Sorry, I should have given you the bed. Now I'm thinking about it. That was kind of that wasn't very smooth.
SPEAKER_00It was not smooth. I was like, here's a pillow. Yeah, here's a pillow, here's a blanket.
SPEAKER_03I was like, but um, but as I was walking to the bed, I turned around and I was like, you know what, you don't gotta sleep on the couch. Like, you want to sleep in the bed with me? And you were like, Yeah, I'll come. And so you came, and uh, I think the that night nothing happened either. I think I was just like, it was one of those situations where it's like pitch black, and I'm just like looking at the ceiling, just thinking, like, I want to do something, I want to try something, but I just did nothing, I just sat there all night, and then the next day, same situation. We go to we same situation, you don't have to sleep on the couch, come to the bed, we're in the bed, and I'm like, you know what, I'm gonna go for it, screw it. And so I uh start to snuggle up to you, you're turned the other way, but you were arched like a freaking S. You were arched like an S.
SPEAKER_00I was looking like a kid.
SPEAKER_03Where your body was, yeah. I was like, okay, I know I see what you're doing there. I was like, this, y'all.
SPEAKER_00Okay, you see that?
SPEAKER_03I was like, hold up, I see what you're doing.
SPEAKER_00Kitty's out, ass out, arched, and S. Yeah. I was sitting there like a capital S.
SPEAKER_03I was sitting there like a capital S. And so I was like, okay, I I see you. I see you. And so I think I just kind of started like rubbing your back or something, kind of like, you know, something like that. And you you were with it.
SPEAKER_01With it.
SPEAKER_03And then so I was like, okay. And so I kind of snuggled up to you. I was holding you, and uh, we fell asleep like that. And then the next morning, I started rubbing your back again. It's going a little bit lower on the weight, a little bit lower on the back. And uh, I don't remember. Did you say, Do you want to rub my butt? Or did I just start kind of rubbing your leg? And then graduated to the booty.
SPEAKER_00What definitely there was a graduation.
SPEAKER_03There was a graduation.
SPEAKER_00But what happened was like I would sleep on the couch, and sometimes you would invite me back, sometimes you wouldn't. And I was never gonna go unless you invited me back. Because I was like, I want to know if he wants me in his bed or not. So I remember the first night I was like, okay, yeah, okay, maybe something's gonna happen. I was sitting there like, he's not gonna put no move, like what the fuck is it?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, that's it.
SPEAKER_00And and I was just like, okay, well, that's fine. Like he's taking his time, whatever. Maybe he doesn't like me. Like, maybe he's not, maybe he's not feeling it. And I remember I was just like, I'd be like arching, and then you started, I was like, you wanna snuggle? Like, should we snuggle a little bit? And so then we started snuggling. And I was like, he's like scooting over like this. And so then we started snuggling, and I'd be like, Oh, can you rub my back? And you started rubbing my back, and I was like, Do you want to rub my booty? And I knew you were like Yeah, so I knew and so then you started rubbing my booty, and it was nice, you were like really good at it, and I was like, I'm gonna let this man keep doing this. But I only and then after a while, I didn't want to keep inviting you to rub my booty. I just wanted you to like rub my booty if you wanted to rub my booty, and then so sometimes you wouldn't. I'd be like, Ugh.
SPEAKER_03You're like pushing it back to me. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00I was like, How many more? I think I was wearing booty shorts.
SPEAKER_03I think it was like the third night when I was like fully just rubbing your booty, rubbing you, holding you. You know what I mean? We were pretty much grinding in the bed, and then um not dry hump, but he makes it sound like we were soaking. No, no, no, we weren't we weren't doing that, but you know, we were spooning, and um, that's when you know I kissed you. That's when that's when it happened.
SPEAKER_00Were you nervous?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, for sure. I was nervous because I was nervous because we were such good friends, and like going down that route is turning the friendship into a whole other level, you know what I mean? And so I'm like, this can go two ways now. Because when you were my friend, I was like, she's gonna be in my life forever, you know, and whether that's as a friend, that's cool. Like, I just I love this girl, she's great. So I was totally cool with you just being my homie forever. But going down that route, I'm like, something could happen because we're introducing this type of relationship into our friendship. Something could happen where she gets upset with me or I get upset with her, and we end up splitting forever, and we're not in each other's life. And so that was going through my head of like, if this doesn't go down the path that I want it to, which is a relationship, this could split us up.
SPEAKER_00You wanted a relationship with me?
SPEAKER_03I yeah, I think it the minute that we started doing things like that, like hooking up and stuff like that, I was like, okay, this has to go into a relationship because I just I want her in my life forever. And I don't think we could go backwards from that, if that makes sense. I don't think we go from hooking up to just being friends again, you know? So I just wanted you in my life, whether it was as my friend or as my life partner, whatever it may be. I just wanted you in my life, but I'm really glad how it worked out.
SPEAKER_00Me too. You've always been in love with me, second.
SPEAKER_03It's true. So this is the last one. It's a juicy one. It's juicy, it's uh very moy toxico. Um Spanish. Hit us up for Spanish lessons. Spanish. Okay, so has cheating on me ever crossed your mind?
SPEAKER_00Uh um, has cheating on me, has cheating on you ever crossed my mind?
SPEAKER_03She's getting tongue tied.
SPEAKER_00Please. Not practically. I mean, I've thought about it in wait, what?
SPEAKER_02Not practically okay, okay.
SPEAKER_00No, no, like I've thought about it in the sense of like, damn. What if I cheated? That'd be insane.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00And then I think about like the consequences of that and the snowball of that and the and the downside of well, I don't want to say downside, like there's upsides to it. But I've thought about it in the sense of like, there's sometimes, there are some times where we have these moments and they're just so pure. Like we just have these days where like everything is so pure and we're in the car and we're like really vibing, or we've had like a great low effort day, and it just feels like so.
SPEAKER_03Oh, and the intrusive thoughts come in.
SPEAKER_00And the intrusive the intrusive thought comes in of what if I cheated on him? That would suck. And then I end up like getting really I'm really emotional. I end up getting really emotional about it because I'm like, wow, like I get to enjoy the purity of our relationship and the purity of this moment. And I think to myself, like, what if I cheated on him? And then it makes me really sad and really emotional because then I get to a place where I'm like, then I wouldn't be able to enjoy the purity of this moment. And how sad would that be? I get that. And that gets me like in my head. I'm like the type of person I'm coming up with all of the scenarios of everything, and then I'm experiencing them all at this, all at the same time. So I get really emotional. Like I can just come up with something that'll make me cry immediately. And so I've never thought about like, oh my God, there's a sexy guy I want to cheat on Grant with. Yeah. But there have been times where I've like, what if I cheated on him? That'd be fucked up.
SPEAKER_03No, I I think of kind of the same thing of like, I just think of how great our relationship is and how messed up it would be if I cheated and just ruined everything. That would be just so like I would it it would just be me throwing my life away, pretty much, you know. And so I do think I have moments like that too. Um, and yeah, like it's it's not like I'm looking at people and I'm like, like obviously I see attractive women out there and stuff like that, but I it doesn't even cross my mind of like, oh, it's worth this person's so attractive that it's worth me going up there, hitting on them, getting their number, courting them in some type of way, and sleeping with them outside of my relationship. That effort and like me uh going and doing something like that just is so not worth ruining what we have. You know what I mean? That it's like it doesn't even, it's not even something that I would even uh um entertain. It's not it's something that I wouldn't even yeah, entertain or it's just something I could never see myself doing because what we have is so great and so worth putting in all the effort that that would just me be me ruining all of this time we've put in, and it would be me ruining all of the love that I've given you, you know. And I I just never want to ruin that with anything. Like that's why I try my best to be my best for you and be the best partner I can in this relationship because it's so worth it, and it's just so worth putting in all this effort, and that's just one of those things, like you know, having um uh not falling into temptation and lust and things like that is a part of me putting in effort into us and what we've built.
SPEAKER_00Do you feel like you have to like wade through that though? You can be honest. Like, do you feel like you like you're like I don't I struggle with temptation and lust on a date, do you?
SPEAKER_03No, I mean you're you can be honest. It's not like I'm like tempted all the time, but it's just something that, like I said, it's something that doesn't even cross my mind because it's so like it would ruin something so amazing that like it doesn't, I don't even consider it. You know what I mean? So it's not like temptation and like I'm tempted all the time or I'm lusting over these people, and I'm like, oh my gosh, what if I did this? What if I did that? You know, it's it's not even worth even um contemplating because of what we've built and what I know that I've put into this and what I know you've put into this, that it just it it just wouldn't be worth it, you know. Nobody's worth losing you, pretty much.
SPEAKER_00I feel the same way about you. Okay, so no, we have to do it. Yeah, it's like we have not cheated on each other. No, we haven't. We both have intrusive thoughts about it, but doesn't mean that we're acting on it. It's more like, what if that happened? That would suck.
SPEAKER_03I know just the thought of like ruining what we have is just terrible.
SPEAKER_00I think about that too, where I'm just like, oh my god, it would suck. There's some moments I look over at you in the morning, I'm like, oh wow, he's so sweet. And then I get really sad because I'm like, what if I cheated on him? And I think about how sweet he is, but then I'm also thinking about this big, huge secret that I'm hiding, and it's killing me. That's the thing too.
SPEAKER_03Like, I don't think I could ever hold a big secret for it would eat me up.
SPEAKER_00If I cheated on you, I'd have to tell you.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah. I'd have to tell you, I wouldn't be able to live yeah, day to day with you looking at you, knowing something so horrible, or that I did something so horrible behind your back. I couldn't.
SPEAKER_00I would either sabotage our relationship so you had to break up with me, or I would just tell you. But I don't think I couldn't. There's no way.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's rough.
SPEAKER_00And that's gonna wrap it up for the Amazon.
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