Stillness, Intentional Living + Resiliency with Natalie Davis & Pamela Cass

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Speaker 1 0:05

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

Speaker 2 0:38

Oh my gosh, you all welcome. Welcome to another episode of Reignite Resilience. Oh my gosh. I was going to try to capture some of the before recording shenanigans, but I missed it.

Speaker 3 0:54

You completely missed it intentionally. And this is our first like just the two of us recording in quite some time I can't even. It's probably been a year, I think it's been a year.

Speaker 2 1:06

I think it's been a year yes Recording in this context? Yeah, I think so.

Speaker 3 1:10

We've had so many incredible guests We've had. We have a wait list of people for guests. But every so often we'll have somebody that has to cancel at the last minute because they've got something going on. And typically we're like, okay, cool, we got time back in our schedule, so we'll go do some stuff. But this time we're like let's just jump on and record and we'll just talk about how 2025 is going and what we've been up to.

Speaker 2 1:40

Exactly, I know. And usually when we have those cancellations and I think the average person would say, oh, we just got an extra hour and a half, it's actually 90 minutes we block off on our schedules but you know, we get an extra 90 minutes. But in typical Pam and Natalie fashion, we usually have 90 minutes worth of extra stuff that we needed to do anyway.

Speaker 3 1:56

So we just fill it. We just fill it. Why would we, why would we take 90 minutes and just like?

Speaker 2 2:02

do what? Which, I think, brings us to our very first point. Oh my goodness. So, as Pam said, like we are full force into 2025 and the year has been wonderful and we are working on a couple of projects, but we don't just speak to the guest and not apply the things that we learn. And I think both Pam and I I'll speak on Pam's behalf we are able to visit with guests and learn new tools and techniques and incorporate new modalities into our own personal lives. So, as we've gone into the new year we won't say what time of year this is, but as we're heading into the new year, we have found ourselves with new habits that we've created and discovering new things about ourselves. So I know that we jokingly say the average person would probably get 90 minutes back and you know, take some time to relax for 90 minutes and Pam and I will just fill those 90 minutes, and that is true. That doesn't make it great. So Pam has discovered in some of the work that she's doing. So, Pam, I'd love for us to like let's dive into that piece of it, and I think it's.

Speaker 2 3:10

We've had some guests that have talked about the power of being silent, the power of stillness. Withness is one of what one of our past guests have said just being able to be with people being present. However you reference it, Just being able to be with people being present. However you reference it, it's really in those moments of stillness, or maybe the lack thereof. But you're doing some work in this space. Tell us a little bit about the work that you're doing.

Speaker 3 3:39

Yeah, I'm doing a lot of work in this space, because what I have come to discover in my life is that I am always doing and very rarely just being.

Speaker 3 3:46

And it was when I was meeting with my coach oh gosh, a couple of weeks ago, and he just asked me he goes, what are the things that you're doing right now? Where you're just like still and like not doing anything. And I'm like, oh well, I'll walk my dog. And he goes okay, when you walk your dog, what are you doing? I was like like, well, I put my airpods in. And he's like, okay, and what are you listening to? I'm like, well, I'm listening to a podcast. He goes, okay, so you're doing, you're listening to a podcast because you're probably wanting to learn something from a podcast. Okay, so that doesn't count. And I was like, well, I uh threw my airpods in and put on some fun like dance music and I cleaned my house. And he goes so again, yes, everything, he so everything. I said to him he's like you're doing something, you're accomplishing something.

Speaker 3 4:35

And I thought about that in my own life and it was like, anytime I'm doing something, whether it's even just walking across my house, I'm like, oh well, I'm gonna go by the laundry room, let me grab a load of laundry. And I'm going to go by the laundry room, let me grab a load of laundry. And as I'm going out to the garage to get X, I'll throw a load of laundry in. So it's always like what can I accomplish as I'm going out my day without the thought of just being in the moment? And so right now, I'm working with actually, one of our past guests, if you guys all remember, rachel Jane Grover from Loveland, colorado, originally from Australia, the Awaken School, and so I'm doing a lot of work with her, and a coach that I'm working with is Amara, and she's incredible.

Speaker 3 5:24

And I asked her about that. I'm like how do I just be still? Because I can't quiet my brain enough to just sit somewhere. Yeah, I always feel like I need to be doing something. And I asked her I was like what if I just sit? And I listened to classical music? She goes, but you're still activating your brain. Yeah, I was like, okay, and so she walked me through two activities that I really liked and yeah, I'd happy to share them if you'd like me to share them.

Speaker 2 5:51

Sure, why not? I mean, we're all ears. Yeah, let's hear it.

Speaker 3 5:54

So the one thing she had me do is she goes, put a timer on for 90 seconds and she goes. You need to do it for the entire 90 seconds. She said you take your palm and you take your other hand and you want to start just feeling your hand and just kind of like going 90 seconds, which is a long time, yes, it goes, and then turn your hand over and just do the same. And as you do that, so do it with your hand, natalie.

Speaker 2 6:21

So just tracing the end.

Speaker 3 6:24

And she said just be aware of your hand. And she goes. You know, you see that you've got the lines in your hand and she goes you might like follow the lines, and just for 90 seconds, and then she had me stop and obviously we've not done it for 90 seconds. And she goes when you're touching your skin, you're activating. Your brain is being activated, because all your touch and your, your feelings, you can feel that and you can kind of feel that in there. And she goes, it creates energy, but it's quieting your brain as you're just focusing on that one little thing. And so it's like okay, I was like okay. Well, what happens when I want to be quiet or meditate? I always fall asleep, like if I get a facial, I'm falling asleep. Yeah, I would fall asleep getting my hair done, but my hairdresser talks. So I fall asleep, but otherwise I would.

Speaker 2 7:20

So any moment that you're forced to be still, I will fall asleep Like it's hilarious, otherwise I would.

Speaker 3 7:24

So any moment that you're forced to be still, I will fall asleep Like it's hilarious. And so I asked her about that and she goes try doing these activities, the meditation in those moments of stillness after you've worked out, and or do something like this, because it'll it'll actually activate you. And so the other thing she walked me through was tapping. I don't know if you've ever done tapping, okay. And so the other thing she walked me through was tapping. I don't know if you've ever done tapping, okay. And so she just walked us you know you through.

Speaker 3 7:49

So you go up and down your arm, both sides of it. You tap your back, you tap your stomach, your kind of pelvis area, your head, both down, both legs and then your back. And I did that. And then she had me just sit for a second after it and she goes how did that feel? It's like I kind of feel like I got some energy, like it's it's kind of woken me up. And so she said do that before you want to sit in silence, because now you've kind of woken yourself up, you've got a little bit more energy. And so those are two things that I'm really going to try to work on, which is just that, sitting in stillness, yes, quieting my brain.

Speaker 2 8:33

So I love that.

Speaker 3 8:34

I love that.

Speaker 2 8:36

That's. That's so fabulous. I um I have to say, like for me my travel schedule usually has me on the road um weeks than it has me at home. But on the weeks that I am at home, I definitely enjoy and cherish those opportunities to be quiet and still, and sometimes it is in the form of sleep and rest, especially during the winter season. Like I, if I'm working from my home office, I actually schedule in a mid afternoon power nap and I am a 20 minute power napper. I don't have to set a timer, I don't have to set an alarm. I know that if I lay down and I tell my body we're doing a 20 minute power nap, we do it, and then I am able to catch some pretty phenomenal sunsets here in Colorado able to catch some pretty phenomenal sunsets here in Colorado, and so I will take myself outside to watch a sunset, not this week because it's below freezing temperatures, but when it's nice out, just being able to just simply go outside and sit and take in the sunset and listen to all of the sounds. That's really something that I do like, to just quiet and quiet my mind, and I think this applies to, like any creative person out there when you. I love being in the creative space, but that also means that that those creative thoughts are constantly swirling around in my mind.

Speaker 2 10:01

Earlier this year I had about a week off, coming off of my vacation from 2024. So I had about a week off and I made the comment to my partner that I had you know, I have room on my plate, like I've got time to do things and his response was like, oh crap, and because, like, if there's room on my plate, we're to fill it with something else. But I have resisted the urge to do that and really just enjoying that space, like in life, like just to to take a nap, quiet everything, quite all of the chatter, quite all of the noise, um, and I'm seeing that I'm looking forward to those opportunities and I'm trying to really honor myself by by taking those opportunities and incorporating them. More historically, the past version of myself wouldn't do that. Um, I just fill it with more activities.

Speaker 3 10:58

Well, I think it's kind of this, this society we live in, it's like we're constantly doing, doing, doing and very little just being. Yes, I think, especially kids, I don't think they know how to just be. It was really interesting because Dylan came up yesterday and sat next to me in the kitchen and he goes. I feel like this was a wasted day. I got nothing accomplished and I was like huh, tell me, tell me a little bit more about that. Yeah, that was really interesting that him, at the age of 19, is starting to get to that place where he feels like I really should be doing something, not just sitting around doing nothing. But it was, it was kind of an interesting. I was like huh, that's interesting that you would. You would say that.

Speaker 2 11:48

Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 3 11:50

Pay money for a day like that.

Speaker 2 12:47

I know exactly People like strive to have one day off where there's nothing to happen, where you're not feeling and having, and you don't have to fill it with something. You know I I'm really enjoying that time. I think I find more of those opportunities for just stillness and presence with myself, like that's the self-care. I know that it sounds cliche moments in the winter season, but I think that that's a natural and I'll make that an I statement. That's just a natural cycle that I'm trying to find myself in is to really like acclimate with the seasons that we're in. So I mean, we have shorter, been for many, many years a part of that 5am club and this year that well, I guess it would have been this winter season.

Speaker 2 13:50

I should say something just came to me during my meditation of listen to your body and let it just wake up on its own natural sleep cycle. And now, listen y'all. I am not a 10, I can't sleep until 10 am, right, so I'm still like getting up at six o'clock in the morning, but instead of being woken up by an alarm that's telling me to get up at 4.30 or five o'clock, it's my body naturally waking up at 6, 6.15. If it's 6.30, it's fine, and so I'm allowing myself to just gradually progress into my day, doing my morning routine after that and then getting into what you mentioned, pam. Like the hustle culture that we've all found ourselves in, it's like hustle grind grit, and I'm like none of those words sound like ease and grace.

Speaker 2 14:36

I don't want it.

Speaker 3 14:37

Some sound good, but then I think about it. I was like you and I are launching two books, yes. We're working on a big training program that we're launching, yes. So it's like oh my gosh. We're hustling. We got a lot of stuff going on, but we also need to make sure that we're taking care of ourselves. The two other things that I'm like committed to this year is the working out. So I'm doing this program called LaGree. If you don't know it, look it up. It's um, it's like a very slow Pilates.

Speaker 3 15:10

It absolutely kills me Like it's so hard every time I when it says November, and do that like four to five days a week that has been. I've noticed a difference in just my strength and my my not my flexibility, cause I'm still terrible at stretching, but in in my strength and my core and everything. And then I'm not drinking and I haven't had I think I've had one drink this year drinking and I haven't had. I think I've had one drink this year and it's and I felt terrible the next day. So I was like I don't need this. Yes, I don't miss it at all.

Speaker 2 15:43

I think that goes back to it Like if you just give yourself the space, the time to like, reflect and really listen to what your body needs, it makes a huge difference. I have not given up alcohol. That is still something that I enjoy. I love a glass of wine with dinner. I love a glass of wine at the end of the day, but around the same time October, November of last year I gave up coffee altogether and about three or four weeks ago I reintroduced decaf coffee back into my morning. I just really enjoy having a hot cup when I'm doing my journaling and my reflection in the morning. It's just part of my habits. I don't know I can't get rid of it, and so I tried tea. It's not the same. I just and I never finished the cup, but I just want it. I just want the cup.

Speaker 3 16:30

Well, mine gets microwaved about 15 times.

Speaker 2 16:33

It exactly. Oh my shoot which I think is still not good for you. Every time I stick it in the microwave I'm like this defeats the purpose, like it's not good for you anymore, like you've just changed the molecular structure of your whole cup of coffee.

Speaker 3 16:44

Fine, consume it nonetheless, now you're gonna drink, it might as well drink it. Yeah, no, I so agree, I so agree yeah.

Speaker 2 16:51

So I think there's such power in like just just listening to yourself, like, where are you, what do you need? And then allowing yourself to have that. And if you, if you can't just allow it, create the space like you have to, you have to make it happen If you're not going to, if you're not going to, you know, be intentional about making it a habit. And you know, last year I had a season that I fell off my morning routine game and that was like that's my jam, like I love my morning routine, and I stopped doing it. There was, like I want to say, maybe 20 or 30 days that I didn't do like my gratitudes and affirmations, which is a long time for me because I started this process in 2015.

Speaker 2 17:31

So, to have such a big block of time where I didn't do it at all, and I, because I knew that was something that I needed for myself, I started scheduling it as an appointment in my calendar, and so I set that for in my calendar for like six months and that way, not only is it me disappointing myself, but every day I look at my calendar and I'm like, girl, if you're not doing it, it's right here. Like, are you going to check that and it was a task, right. So it was a task on my calendar. I had to check it every day and then when I checked it, that was great, and then I would see myself again. It wasn't overnight, right, it wasn't in a week that I just went back to seven days that I was doing it again. It was progressing to that, but I don't know what. What happened, what fell off.

Speaker 3 18:12

But I'll tell you, like mentally, not in a great space, and I think you said the same thing your kids know if you haven't done it.

Speaker 2 18:21

Absolutely, absolutely. I felt like my efficiency was down. I felt like my productivity was down. I felt like I was constantly scattered and all over the place. Now, people from the outside looking in may not see that, but for me on the inside it was just like constant, just a churning that was going back and forth and it all came back to like me cutting that out. For whatever reason. I don't know why I let that ball drop, but it's bad.

Speaker 3 18:45

I know the days. If I can't get it all done in the morning, I feel like I've got something that's not complete. I just go through my day of like with this, nagging like oh, there's something that's unfinished, yes, so that is so. I mean I have a stack. It's my morning routine stack. Yes, such a it's. It's funny if anybody put a camera in my house, my morning routine would be exactly oh yeah, oh yeah and I was like from which the books are stacked the way I go through them?

Speaker 3 19:18

I mean absolutely ridiculous. I have my pens, my exact pens that I use, yes, writing my affirmations and gratitudes, and my journal and all the stuff it's.

Speaker 2 19:28

It's there there are two like big celebration times that I have when I am doing my morning routine. I might have shared this with the listeners before the day that my pen runs out of ink Love, love that and the day that I'm on the last page of the journal I'm like love, that and I don't get.

Speaker 3 19:48

I don't know about you, but I don't get rid of any of those. When I am no longer on this earth and my kids find all of these journals spewn throughout my house, yes, I don't even know what they're going to think. I don't even care.

Speaker 2 20:01

I know what they're going to think. They're going to be like gosh. She was really grateful for the dog.

Speaker 3 20:07

How come she never mentioned us in here?

Speaker 2 20:12

Coco has gratitude for me more than once in my journals and she appears in many, many journals. She's amazing.

Unlocking Personal Growth Through Writing

Speaker 3 20:20

Yes, oh my gosh. No, I think. Yeah, I think my dog's in there, cats not as much the cats maybe not maybe, maybe this is why the cats behave the way that they do. Possibly that could possibly be it, but they know that I'm behave the way that they do. Possibly that could possibly be it, but they know that I'm not the one that adopted them. That's it. I just got left with them because that's you know when mom has abandoned them.

Speaker 2 20:45

Their new mom is like. She doesn't even reference her us in her journals at all, like we know they feel it.

Speaker 3 20:51

Well, and I do want to say something else. I think, because I had mentioned that my coach was the one that asked me specifically what are you doing If you have somebody in that light in your life, whether it's a coach or somebody else, just ask them, you know, do you notice anything that maybe I'm not noticing Because sometimes we get so head down? I mean, I thought putting headphones in and cleaning my house was quiet time.

Speaker 2 21:19

Definitely no Listening to the podcast.

Speaker 3 21:21

While I was on a walk with my dog was quiet time.

Speaker 2 21:24

Had you asked me, I would have told you no too.

Speaker 3 21:27

But I didn't ask you. So if you have somebody that can just, you know, say, notice what you've got going on in your life, that can point stuff out, sometimes it takes that outside person to look at the way we're doing things, to give us a fresh perspective. It's so true, we just get in our grooves and we just plug along and think everything's hunky dory and then we wonder why am I tired? Why do I fall asleep when I'm getting my hair done? And you know, there might be other reasons and you might need somebody to just give you a little little clue to it.

Speaker 2 22:04

A little clue, yeah, and it comes. It doesn't have to be like a you know, a come to Jesus meeting, like where it's like, tell me everything that you observe that's going on in my life. It it can come through as, like the little statements or comments that people make as well, like, oh, I've noticed that whatever it is like, fill in the blank with whatever is happening. Don't take those like, comment that comment or those types of feedback that you receive from other people like don't hold it to heart. I think there's an opportunity for you to really like hold it and just reflect on it and think, ok, well, is there something to it? And I think that you're again, I'm a big believer Like, if you give yourself the space to be with yourself, you can see it too. You just, we're just. It's easier for us to reject it as our truth If, if it's just us with us, right, other than otherwise, if you have somebody else telling you it's like well, shoot, they see it too. I'm not doing that great of a job in hiding it.

Speaker 3 23:04

I feel like I need as many coaches as a football team.

Speaker 2 23:06

A hundred percent. A hundred percent, yeah, oh, I found that I think it was. It's definitely been over the last 18 months, like having a coach in different areas, like now it's like a financial coach and a business coach, and you know it's like okay, and you know I've got the person that that leads through, you know our workouts and what that looks like. It's just like okay, there's something there. Takes a village. Takes a village Every step of the way. Yes, yeah, every step of the way.

Speaker 3 23:29

I yes, yeah, every step of the way I know.

Speaker 2 23:32

I love it. I love it. Well, so what else is new in 2025 for you, Pam? Anything else that you've incorporated in your life?

Speaker 3 23:40

I'm trying to think that there's anything else. I think it was the writing of finishing writing that book.

Speaker 3 23:50

It was one of those things that I think we got. I got stuck on because we had spent, we like were really gung ho and we got that outline done, yeah, and then I just hit this wall. And I think I hit the wall because I just was, I didn't have clarity, which we talk about. If we don't have clarity, we're not going to move forward. Right, we know this in real estate. And I just didn't have clarity. And it was getting that gift from one of my coaching clients, that book that I read, Energy Bus. If anybody is interested in a really good book, it was a really good book to change the way we looked at it. And that's when I reached out to you, Natalie, and I said, hey, what do you think about scrapping that and starting this? And you were about to head out of was like I'm leaving the country.

Speaker 2 24:33

I know I was like I'm leaving the country. Do whatever you want, that's it.

Speaker 3 24:36

You're like fine, whatever, and I was like okay and um, and it was really interesting because I know when my creative time is is usually in the morning, but I also found creative time in the evenings when I kind of sat with the day and it just kind of flowed and it was really a fun thing to do. I think the book's been inside of me for a long, long, long, long time and I think it just so, if you are not a writer, if you have no intention of writing a book, we all have a story. I'm a huge proponent now in the journaling you know journal your thoughts. Actually, I met a gentleman and and we were talking, I was at an event and we were talking about he has, he has two younger, two young kids, and he said that he woke up in the middle of the night with this dream about his daughter. And it was a very vivid dream and he told me it and when he woke up he goes, I realized that I need to tell a story so that my daughter has my story. And so he started writing and he has written.

Speaker 3 25:41

It's like a manuscript. He's written a manuscript of from his childhood to present day, but then messages for his kids. No certain like life lessons. Such a cool idea. And I was like you have a book. I was like now you just need to print it, absolutely. So we've all got a story and I'm a I'm a proponent that the stuff that we go through in life is meant to be shared. Yeah, and when you and I cause I've written one. You're right, you're writing the second book and it's very personal stories and it's scary to be vulnerable on paper. That's going to go out to the world, but there's going to be somebody, even if it's only one person, that needs to hear what our story was.

Speaker 2 26:31

They'll pick it up and they'll read it. Yeah, exactly, it's so true. It's interesting that you mentioned the um gentleman that had a dream, because I, you, you just said that and I had like this massive download, because I have some pretty vivid dreams where I'm in it and I can see myself in it, um, and I always wake up and I'm like what alternate universe was I just in, like this place was like intense and like the charge that I have in that life, and I just had this download. I'm like, well, what if that's the book, what if that's the story that you're supposed to write? And I keep getting, and I am one that, like, has the same dream over and over again. So maybe I'm dreaming. I'm either in the same spot or the same location, or it's the same dream over and over again. So maybe I'm dreaming I'm either in the same spot or the same location, or it's the same dream occurring, if I just wrote it down, because I've never written it down.

Speaker 2 27:20

I just always wake up in awe Like what the heck? Also total badass, but what the heck?

Speaker 3 27:26

So maybe that's all right, maybe that's book three, exactly, exactly so. I'm going to start doing that.

Speaker 2 27:32

I'm committing that to myself as I come out of these dreams, because I typically remember them. I am the person that remembers the dreams, but maybe that's my mind telling me write it down for once so that we can move on to the next scene.

Speaker 3 27:45

Because what I've learned over my years are there were things that I had forgotten about my childhood until I did that EMDR therapy with my counselor years ago and these memories came back. We've got you know things that we have suppressed. Oh yeah, you know from very young childhood and we can learn so much from it and it can inspire and maybe teach somebody else something too.

Speaker 2 28:13

So Absolutely, I would say, if anyone is interested in like starting that journey, there is a book that will actually take you through what Pam just mentioned. We have so many memories that are locked that we that are still emotionally charged for us that we don't even realize. But there's a book called Writing to Heal by Tom Bird and it will take you through a series of writing prompts and there's background, subliminal meditation, music that you play to set the stage and it's important, like when you're writing you don't want to like write in the middle of a coffee shop or you know where there's a lot of distractions around. You want to make sure that you're in a controlled space where you feel comfortable and safe, especially when you're in that, putting yourself in a place of vulnerability, vulnerability like that. But writing to heal by Tom Bird.

Speaker 2 29:05

I remember going through that book the first time and the emotional response that I had. I think one of the prompts was like going back to a time that you were bullied in school or something like that, and I remember writing. I remember it so clear because I was like I had the music going, I was in my bedroom and I'm writing it down and I like start writing it down. And then I had, like experience after experience start to pop up and then the people that were, you know, that were not kind, that were popping up and like the emotions were still very raw and of course, as a teenager, you just dismiss it because you have to move on to the next thing, because that's how quickly things happen as a teenager. But then to recognize, like all of these years later, years later, that that emotional charge is still there.

Speaker 2 29:55

It was a moving, emotionally moving process. So I would say, if you're wanting to like step into that space, that's one that I would recommend to kind of give you an intro and it's all prompts and it's, you know, you write it down and if you share it with the world, great. If you don't, at least you get to hold a mirror up to yourself to say what the heck and how did? How? Is that still living in there?

Speaker 3 30:16

And I think it it sometimes can explain why we respond to certain situations or certain people. All have triggers and some of those triggers are just deep. We don't even realize we have them. But if you look at your life and look at situations that you've been through and see if there's patterns like when X happens, I tend to do this Well, why, Like what has happened in your past, that has created this trigger response that you basically have, and I think that that's such a powerful reflection. So I think that, even if you have no intention of writing a book, Tom Bird, I'm gonna. I'm gonna get that. Oh yeah, Such a great activity to go through Because we I mean there's trauma from before we were even born. Oh my gosh, it was going through a stressful time.

Speaker 2 31:13

Absolutely born. Oh my gosh, it was going through a stressful time Absolutely Well, and I mean when you really like go down to the science of it all, like when we really think about it, just like the whole birthing process itself is like our very traumatic experience, yeah, like how we enter this world.

Speaker 3 31:30

It's terrible, it's cold.

Speaker 2 31:33

You're either getting yanked out and entering. Exactly you're getting slapped, poked, prodded, held upside down.

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Speaker 3 31:41

Yes thing in your nose. Yes, I imagine it would be like what it would be like to be I don't abducted by aliens. It would feel very much like that people poking and prodding and whatnot. It would just be terrible that that People poking and prodding and whatnot, it would just be terrible.

Speaker 2 31:55

That is not a request, but thank you.

Speaker 3 31:57

Yeah, we don't want any of that. We're not doing that.

Speaker 2 32:00

But it's terrible and the most amazing memories as a child, but there are still things that like triggered some type of emotional response and, whether big or small and for me it was I thought it was small, but you know the emotional response that I had while I was doing that journaling prompt. I was like, well, clearly that wasn't small, because here I am sobbing and journaling, right, it's like, well, I didn't let that go and I didn't forgive that go and I didn't forgive that person and I haven't allowed myself to heal in that space. And so you give yourself some space to heal. Right, Learn about yourself. It's. I'm a big fan, I'm a big fan.

Speaker 3 32:45

What's your word for the year?

Speaker 2 32:47

Shine.

Speaker 3 32:49

Shine, I like that, yeah, yeah yeah, so it's everywhere.

Speaker 2 32:58

I like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so it's everywhere. I have my vision board hanging on my wall behind my office. It's my screensaver on my devices, my phone, my laptop, on all of my screens. I keep my vision board but shine, and so I have it as shine bright and it's it's. It's interesting. You say that like because I was thinking like all of the projects that we're working on this year, we're absolutely pushing ourselves outside of our comfort zone, but I think it's an opportunity for me to shine as I'm doing so. So, yeah, shine is mine. What?

Speaker 3 33:23

is yours, Mine's, intention. And it was funny. I think I shared with you the story that the originally I was like, oh, self-care or self-love or something like that. And then I signed up for this thing with Rachel Jane and the very first thing she does is we're going to pick our word of the year, and she walked us through this activity. I'm like, oh, I already have mine. And so I did the activity and the word just came to me and I was like, whoa, where'd that come from? And she goes okay, now we're going to go through it again and let's just see what word comes in. The same word kind of came, and it was the word intention.

Speaker 3 33:55

And then I told you it was the creepiest thing because I was one of my candles was out and I was like, oh, I need to grab a new candle. And there was a candle that was like half used underneath my kitchen counter and I pulled it out and the name on the candle was intention. I was like, what the heck is that? So it is, it is the word has come up multiple places and so it's just intention with everything I do, so whether it's intention with being present, and so I'm doing a lot of self work this year with the stuff with Rachel Jane, with my coach, with being part of Speaker Academy. So there's all these things that I'm doing that are just for me and my well-being not drinking, the exercising, the getting back because I used to exercise all the time and then I like took a hiatus for very it was after I ran that half marathon.

Speaker 2 34:48

I was like that'll do it for you.

Speaker 3 34:51

Which we're supposed to do next year, or at least I am, am you're just bringing the meat sticks and yeah, I definitely didn't sign up for that no, I ran a 5k with my daughter in november.

Speaker 2 35:03

Um, it is five months later and my hip still hurts and no, there's no way oh man well, I'm not doing it. Yeah, no, you no you said you wouldn't.

Speaker 3 35:13

You said you were just going to bring the meat sticks.

Speaker 2 35:15

Absolutely I. I told I was very clear. Um, this was a one and done on my list. Like am I able to put myself in a space where I have to train to complete it? Can I complete it? Yes, I did all of that. Check, check the box.

Speaker 3 35:31

We've moved on yeah, there's something else I like. I did it, I don't want to do it again, and yet you committed. I don't know what I was thinking. Why did you say stop bam, don't do that. It's not, we're in napa, so it'll be okay I think it'll be great oh my god, maybe I can use a scooter. Oh my gosh, who wants to go to Napa when you're not drinking? That's just a waste.

Speaker 2 35:57

That's a different year, that's in 2026. We'll see what happens.

Speaker 3 36:00

Who knows what happens. We got me drinking every night.

Speaker 2 36:02

We've got plenty of time before that. I got time, I got time. Actually, vineyards have done, and wineries they've done a great job of like doing what is it Alcohol-free? Or They've done a great job of like doing what is it Alcohol free or the alcohol or alternative type of beverages at their venues. Because there are a lot of non drinkers, I think it's it's become more of a norm and I like seeing it and I. There are quite a few alcoholic alternative beverages that I love, not the sugar filled ones. We don't want to replace the alcohol with sugar. This is my PSA to all of the mixologists in the world we don't want to exchange the alcohol for sugar. Like give us yes, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 36:45

I just I take my big wine glass and I fill it with different flavored bubbly water and I'll add some sort of like a slice of orange or something like that, and it makes me feel like I'm drinking something.

Speaker 2 37:00

Oh, that would be bad, like I, that's. That's what I drink, like during the day.

Speaker 3 37:03

I'm actually drinking like a blood orange sparkling water right now, so that's my treat at night, because during the day I'm just drinking water, but at night I love the sparkly bubbly water. So I don't even need those non-alcoholic things because I've tried or nasty.

Speaker 2 37:20

Oh, oh, I've tried, I'll have, I'll give you, I will give to you a couple of options, because I have a few, I have a few that I like, that I enjoy, I do. I mean, yeah, not that I again, I do enjoy a glass of wine every day with dinner.

Speaker 3 37:36

You know what I? I I did that for many, many years and I just there's something I just noticed. I was waking up groggy and I was like, oh, this doesn't feel great, let me just not drink for a bit and see how it is. And then I would, wasn't drinking, I was like, oh, this, I feel good, I feel good I'm able to go do my workout. And so I was like I don't need it.

Speaker 2 37:59

Done Well, I mean when you're getting up at 5am to do a workout that makes a huge difference.

Speaker 3 38:03

Yeah and yeah. When it's this cold outside, you don't need any excuse not to go, cause no because anyone will work.

Speaker 2 38:11

Look, I have to tie my shoes and it's negative five. I don't think I need to go.

Speaker 3 38:16

Yeah, this morning it was seven degrees. Leaving the house I'm like this is terrible, which?

Speaker 2 38:21

means it's warmed up? Not at all. It is still seven degrees. I just want to point that out to you. That's what my device is telling me.

Speaker 3 38:27

We will be doing this podcast one day from tropical places.

Speaker 2 38:31

A hundred percent.

Speaker 3 38:35

I don't know when I receive it Is with intention.

Speaker 2 38:38

Exactly that we will get there. We have to know, we have clarity, we have intention, we're going to commit to it. We're doing it all.

Speaker 3 38:44

I love it Exactly.

Speaker 2 38:47

Oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 38:49

Well, I think this was good. 2025 has been fabulous so far. We're enjoying it. Pam and I are here. We have some fabulous guests that are lined up to join us for the rest of this year and, of course, if you all have not signed up for the Reignite Resilience Think Letter, head on over to reigniteresiliencecom and make sure that you sign up for the Think Letter. A great opportunity to get some behind the scenes of our podcast episodes, learn a little bit more about our guest, some of our takeaways, some fabulous quotes that are shared in some of these episodes, because oftentimes we get caught up in like all the good stuff that comes out of it, and then there are some like fabulous quotes that can be applied to life that really just help you along the way. So that is a weekly e-newsletter comes out every Saturday. Make sure you sign up for it.

Speaker 3 39:41

Yeah, and they'll tell you what we've got going on. And if you're interested in being a guest on our podcast, email us. You know podcast at break that resiliencecom. Reach out to us, tell us your story. You've got a story that's worth hearing and we make it very comfortable. Um, our guests have all said that it's very comfortable to jump on with us. It's like sitting around a coffee shop just having coffee with old friends yeah, exactly yeah, we're not.

Speaker 2 40:08

That's not self-proclaimed.

Speaker 3 40:09

Other people have told us that all the people have told us that. All the people have told us.

Speaker 2 40:15

No, that truly is like probably the most consistent post recording feedback that we receive from our guests is that we, how easy we make it, and you know again, we hope you all, as the listeners, are able to pick up on that, but we just want it to be conversational. We want to learn more about people. We want to improve on that, but we just want it to be conversational. We want to learn more about people. We want to improve, we want to apply new things to our lives as well, and that's what we want to deliver to all of our listeners. So I'm hoping that you guys hear that it's not just us saying it, it is.

Speaker 3 40:43

It's not just us saying it, I will say that my life has definitely gotten better with all these new amazing people that we've met all over the country, all over the world Sorry, I keep all over the world that we have had enter into our lives for these brief 90 minutes. It's been really, really impactful and fun.

Speaker 2 41:05

So, yes, absolutely, I love it. Well, if you have any thoughts, comments, feedbacks, make sure that you send it over to us, as Pam said. Podcast at reignite resilience Um, we have a guest that will be joining us on the next episode, so tune in for that. Um, until next time. We will see you all soon.

Speaker 1 41:28

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