I Didn’t See God, But He Still Gave Me Homework with Holly Porter (part 2)

A blinding light. A mountain watching. A tree she had chosen long before. Holly Porter’s near-death experience did not end in the hospital. Through guided hypnosis, she revisited what she could not explain and uncovered one sentence that changed her life: love them where they’re at. That shift removed judgment, eased grief, and redefined how she works, heals, and connects.

We explore the line between dreams, nightmares, and real out-of-body experiences. Holly explains how hypnosis helps the body lead while the mind stays aware, turning years of therapy into hours of insight. These experiences shaped her book, Near Death Shift, and redirected her nonprofit from despair to purpose. Her new mission centers on helping women lead with clarity and conviction.

Healing took structure. Holly tracked her progress like data: fatigue levels, pain cycles, and stress triggers. She built daily habits around rest, hydration, supplements, and a 5 a.m. hyperbaric routine that restored her lungs. A new pulmonologist later confirmed what her own discipline had shown—wellness grows when you create room for recovery.

She closes with her SHIFT framework: surrender, hope, intuition, faith, and transformation. It is a guide for growth without trauma as the teacher.

If you want to trade judgment for grace and urgency for sustainable progress, listen in. Then subscribe, share it with someone who needs it, and leave a review with the insight you plan to apply.

About Holly:

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Chapters

• 0:00 Opening And Theme Of Reigniting
• 0:41 Hypnosis Journey And The Light
• 2:31 Symbols: The Mountain Eye And The Tree
• 3:16 Life Review Focused On The Good
• 4:12 The Message: Love Them Where They’re At
• 5:31 On Hypnosis: Process And Power
• 7:16 Early Memory Of Feeling Unseen
• 9:07 Clarifying NDE Gaps Through Hypnosis
• 11:06 Dreams Versus Out-Of-Body Experiences
• 12:46 Nonprofit Origins And Mission Shift
• 16:12 Setbacks, Self-Care, And Slowing Down
• 19:33 Pain Patterns And Mindset In Healing
• 21:27 SHIFT: Surrender, Hope, Intuition, Faith, Transformation
• 23:56 Key Takeaway: Grace Over Judgment
• 25:47 Book Details, Numbers, And Structure
• 28:01 Closing, Links, And Listener CTA

Transcript

SPEAKER_00: 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

SPEAKER_01: 0:41

Okay, so things start piecing together, and I realize, okay, Darby, so he's my hypnotist has my back completely. He's like, that is not yours. I mean, he's like, you're stealing it. She earned it and it's not. I mean, they're going like having this big banter, and I'm just in the hypnosis listening to the whole thing. And I feel this heat and light, the stadium light, that brightness on my face. And he says, the light's coming to take her, and I'm not going to be able to stop it. And he's like, well, then don't give it to her, you know. So eventually he lets me have my light and I go walking forward and over on the right hand side, up high, way back, is a mountain with one eye on it. Haven't figured out that whole thing, but I believe it was watching over me. There's a lot of significance with one eyes. As you can see, I have them behind me here if you're watching this on video. So still, that's yet to be determined. And then in front of me was a tree. And oh my gosh, talk about you know, I would just come out of this awful two years. I needed some joy, I needed some love. And I saw the tree. Well, I had created retreat RR when I was doing the branding. I had told them that it needed to have a tree in the logo. Didn't know why. Nobody questioned it. And when the tree comes back, the picture of it, it had 11 leaves and 11 roots on it. One, one, one, one, which is the day I got out of the hospital. My birthday's one, one. There's just so much with ascension with those numbers. And I did never change anything on the logo. I was like, wow, that's it. And like a year later, I got the story from the guy that designed it, which was also a really cool story. Anyway, back to this. So then and I saw the tree, and it was like, it I call them God gifts. It was like a symbol from God telling me, you created that logo and didn't even remember this as part of your story. So then I get to the light, and those the matters floating around over there, too, and even in the dark, by the way, the matter would form a heart out of when it would get together, it would form a heart and it would go to the left. And I remember thinking, well, we're all attracted to the light. They just all want the light. But when I got to the light, the same matter was doing that with the hearts, but now they're pink. When I started my adventure bucket wish, nonprofit, we had our first fundraiser in the gala, and all the little gift bags I gave everybody, I knew it had to have a pink rose quart heart in it. And I just put it in, no one questioned me. I didn't, I never really thought about it or the why. I see that, and I'm like, same thing as the tree. I was just like, I did the two things I was told to do, and there's your there's your sign, you know, you're on the right track. So then I saw the life review. This time I only saw good. I don't know if I told you about the life review on the other one. So I'm seeing the life review, but all I'm seeing is good. This time I remembered to ask, what where's the bad? There's lots of bad. Where's the bad? And it was like I never saw God, but I felt him and I heard him. And he he clearly said, I'm showing you this because this is what matters. And I thought, wow, that's a God of love. The good is what matters, and that's what I that's what I needed to see. I didn't need to see the bad, especially at that point. My heart needed healed. And then he said to me through my hypnotist, he said, More will be revealed to you when the time is right, which was I was at peace with. I'd never felt peace in my whole life, like until now. And I was like, okay, I usually want to know everything, but I'm good with that. Probably would have been so overwhelming, I wouldn't have been able to handle everything. And I wouldn't have had to go through those two years of hard times to experience what I needed to. The next message that I want everyone to listen really close to, because this is a game changer. This would have saved me from the two years of awfulness. Love them where they're at. And when I heard that, I was like, oh, like love, sure. I knew all about that. Seeing love, we all know love, unconditional love, whatever. But to have love them where they're at, and those words, it takes away that judgment. It is, it just takes all of that out of there. And you just, it's so freeing. And if I I would have handled those two years so much differently if I would have had that message, and I wouldn't have had those lessons that I needed from that experience. Okay, I think I think that was kind of it after that. I mean, I didn't get to go back to the concert in the Stadium Light, which I was a little bummed about. He pulled me out, but we had already been in it for like an hour and 40 minutes. So I'm like, fine, I'll I'll revisit that later.

SPEAKER_03: 5:04

And had you done hypnosis prior to this, or was this?

SPEAKER_01: 5:07

I was actually certified for it. So it's funny because I just did one, I hadn't for a few years, and I just did one on one of my high school buddies on a kind of similar experience with her. And she just told me again the other day, she goes, That was game changing for me, life-changing. And I thought, uh, so yeah, anyone that I'm totally an advocate for hypnosis, you can do years of therapy in an hour or two. Years.

SPEAKER_02: 5:31

So when you go through hypnosis, so you're uh consciously aware of what's going on.

SPEAKER_01: 5:35

So you remember your eye. I mean, that's part of the script in the beginning. If anytime you feel unsafe, you can open your eyes. I can remember having doing sessions where I was like, I just want to see if I really can. You know what I mean? Yeah, can I open them? Yeah, just that stubborn part. I totally can, but I didn't why would you want to? Because it's such a cool experience. Even when you're in, you know, you're facing a lot of things, you're dealing with people in there and resolving things in there. And yeah, I mean, before this session, he started with the first memory I had. I don't usually even talk about this. The first memory that I had where I felt unseen. Don't ask me why that's what came up, but I don't have that many memories as a child. And he he took me back, or I took him back to I was 17 months old. Who remembers a memory when you're 17 months? And my mom had had, she had seven kids in seven years. She had five kids under four and a half with twins. So she had a four and a half year old, a three-year-old, I was 17 months, and then twins. And I was hiding behind a chair. My mom went to the hospital, have a baby, and came home with two. She didn't even know. My sister and brother, but older than me, had experienced what I was experiencing, you know, not being the baby now. A 17-month-old is a baby still, in my eyes. Yeah. And I'm like hiding behind a chair, realizing like nobody even knew I was there. Like I didn't exist because everybody was scrambling trying to figure out how we're gonna handle two babies and two babies. And I just thought that was so profound that he that I remembered that.

SPEAKER_02: 7:06

Anyway, wow, wow. So you went through three significant experiences, and but when you left the hospital, did you remember any of those? Or did like you said, does it just take it?

SPEAKER_01: 7:18

So you did everything I told you until the hypnosis session, like all of I just had questions. They were the gaps were from the near-death experience. I remembered all of the out of body, I remembered the spiritual experience, but those gaps, you know, like when I went from the hospital hallway to the stadium, and I and then coming back and saying I got kidnapped, like that didn't make sense to me. And I was writing my book at the time, and I'm like, out of integrity, I want to have the story, right? And so what really happened. Wow.

SPEAKER_03: 7:46

And now I know your spirit knew, like you knew that you were kidnapped at that time, and but and then coming back, like consciously, it doesn't make sense. You're like, I don't know why I'm typing this one word out, and I'm using all of my energy to get this one word out, but you need to know that I've been kidnapped.

SPEAKER_01: 8:02

Um she's like, You never left this room. They did your surgeries in here, and I'm like, I just looked down like they were nuts. I'm like, I went everywhere, I've been all the places.

SPEAKER_03: 8:12

I've been thinking, but bringing this bed with me to places that you never think.

SPEAKER_01: 8:20

But I can tell you, because you know, there's been people on other shows I've been on that lots of people like NDE shows and stuff, they make lots of comments. Sometimes I don't want to read them because I'm like, I don't want to hear the crap, you know? And people will just be like, like for me, I knew a different I knew when I was having a nightmare or just a weird dream. I knew when it was out of body. Like I didn't have names to them, but I mean, I can tell you specifically as soon as I learned about them, which was what, I knew immediately because they were all different, they were different experiences that have names. So I was able to put the name on them.

SPEAKER_03: 8:51

So yeah, and they feel different, I'm assuming.

SPEAKER_01: 8:54

Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I like I had some really crazy dreams too. And I mean, I had a bonus mom that was fairly newly married to my dad, and she would withhold there was stuff going on that wasn't even true, and she was withholding my oxygen. We joke about, we laugh about it all the time. She was withholding my oxygen, and I think it was till she got her. But I knew that was a dream because I knew it wasn't happening, and then she'd give me my oxygen, like I just go to take my last breath, and that was it. And she'd get whatever she was, she was negotiating with me, and she'd get it somehow. Don't ask how I gave it to her while I'm half dead, but then I get air, and I mean, I remember sitting in one dream or nightmare, it was more of a nightmare. People were out sitting in like park like benches, like in a busy street, like I was New York City or something, and they had to put money in, like you would to park. What did they call that? The meter, a parking meter, yes, that was for oxygen. So they so there was dead people all over because they write all the homeless, they have any money, so they just they didn't have money for the I mean, just the craziest things.

SPEAKER_03: 10:01

Wow, wow, and those were dreams, those are the dreams, those are not the experiences, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 10:07

Nightmares because it was kind of creepy, like nightmares, I should say. I mean, my Nel Tech. I remember I had a I had a dream about her. She was trying to do some stuff. We were like at the gym, and there was this big trampoline involved. And actually, I remember when I was having that one because I had a salon and spa for 20 years, so I had trained two of my girls to be cosmetologists, and I was also an esthetician. And my sister is also, and so like they would they shaved my legs while I was in there. My sister filled my nails, did my gel toes while I'm in the ICU, and my sister waxed my eyebrows, and she's like, You acted like that was the worst pain you'd ever been in when you have tubes going everywhere in your body and you get a shot every hour in your stomach. Oh guys, you're flinching at that, and so we laugh.

SPEAKER_02: 10:52

Yes. Oh my gosh. So share, share with us a little bit about your nonprofit. So you had this message to start this nonprofit. So share with our listeners about the nonprofit.

SPEAKER_01: 11:03

Okay, so my book's called Near Death Shift, and it's so interesting that that ended up being the name because I had a different name for two years, and then I just switched it in the last few months. Shift is so interesting that it's there because shift happened also with the nonprofit. So when we started it, it was for I was told member the name and no omission. Well, I started getting all my long COVID diagnoses in. I had a lung disease. I was told I needed to get on the lung transplant list. I mean, there was all kinds of things going on that first two years. And the second year, well, going into the third year, I knew something was off. We did it for long COVID. Over 100 million people suffering. There's 200 symptoms attached to it, but it was so negative. Like the Facebook groups I was in, it's like people love being victims. And I was suffering, but I was working so hard to get better. My whole motto was better is better. And every day it was like if something went good my way, it's like check, check, and yeah. I just couldn't figure out what it was intuitively. So I took all the fundraisers the after the second year off the table, and I had started a podcast that went about a year, and I thought, just keep doing the podcast until I have further knowledge, right? So one day I'm doing the podcast and I it's someone with long COVID and she's telling me her story, and it's also video. I should go back and look at it and watch myself because I started reliving my experience, like the trauma, and I couldn't breathe. And I was just like, what is going on? And I got this huge download that it was just like someone speaking right to me that said, This is not your mission anymore, and this is your last podcast. Wow. Oh, wow. I was actually grateful. I was like, cool, because I mean, I I canceled everything right after I barely finished her show. I uploaded, I think, to YouTube, but I didn't even do it on any of the other platforms. I was so done. I was just like, needed the answer. Then the grief came because God tells you to do something. Why would He take it away? So I call my friend, she's really holistic, she's an energy healer, but she's on my board. And I'm like, ah, now what? I said, Why would God do that? And she said, Well, if I remember right, you were given the name, but not the mission. I know you're right. And she goes, So keep the name and change the mission. So we already had the 501c3, so that's what we did. And she said, then it was like, now what? What are we gonna do now? And she goes, What would light you up? Because it was just dragging me down. I was living in wellness space or really working hard to be there all the time, and it would pull me back into sick space and just that negativity. So it was more for my mental health, I think. And I'd already had enough with the two years my mental health was suffering enough. I needed, I needed just good things, and so we changed it to women leading with purpose because purpose is what I got out of all my experience. I I got my why, the why I never felt like I had.

SPEAKER_03: 14:48

I'm sure, like in that space, you find individuals that are wanting to have community because they've had this experience, right? Like I have these long-term lingering effects or what have you. But then it shifts into this energy of like desperation and like you said, the victim mentality. It's like, oh, woe is me, and this has happened to me, and this is my identity now, and this is who I am, and not wanting to shed that, where you're like, no, I got lesson, the message received, downloaded, ready to go, let's move on.

SPEAKER_01: 15:17

Yeah. And and I mean, I send love and I sympathize with all of them. Absolutely. But at that time, like right now, you have so many people with long COVID that have really gotten better. They're either, I mean, I was 70% for a long time. 70% of 100 on your health is not good. Not correct. That's not good. No. And and then when I finally got to 90, 95, and that I've never gotten over 95, and I've had setbacks where six weeks one year, six weeks the next year, this week, this year I had a 10-week setback. And I worked through it, I traveled through it, but I, you know, when your pain's four to seven all day long because of the fatigue, and you just get all these symptoms back, but it's it stinks. But to me, it was just no, keep focusing on like, did God save me to come this far? I think I need to finish what I'm supposed to be doing. Like, not that I'm gonna toy away with my health, but I think I got put in a coma to sit still long enough so I would listen to what I needed to do. I think I get setbacks for the same reason, which by the way, has taken me three years of setbacks and a 10-week this year to sit and go, oh duh, that's probably the same. Like, I'm not getting the message, apparently. So let me just get your health crappy so it slows you down because you're a little off track. So now I'm handling those differently and I'm hoping no more setbacks.

SPEAKER_02: 16:33

Okay, and so how do you handle them differently now? This is recent.

SPEAKER_03: 16:38

Yesterday, this is a new thing.

SPEAKER_02: 16:40

You're you're on the journey as we speak. So yes, I don't have to know because you know, women, we tend to just like go, go, go.

SPEAKER_01: 16:49

I think okay, so self-care to me, you know, I had a salon and spa for 20 years, but I just never had self-care. I just was go, go, go, raising kids, kids are first, jobs first, you know. And so it became, but for for when I got sick, it was I had to almost choose do I want health care or self-care? My health care was my self-care. So I had a hyperbary because I had a lung disease. So I was that was another miracle how I got one. I had one in my house. I was able to get in it every day. I couldn't hold the bathroom longer than an hour. I mean, I'm a menopausal woman, you know. So I would get up at 5 a.m. so that I could empty my bladder and then get in there for 90 minutes. And to me, it's like, okay, do you exercise or you get in to save your lungs? Do you know what I mean? If it's that choice, yeah. It was just like 90 minutes is a long part, and that's why I got up at 5 a.m. just to make sure I got in there and I could stretch and stuff in there, but I could do, I could do my emails, I could do, I could work in there too, or I could choose to sleep if I needed it. I think now what it would look like is especially because the book, you know, I set my deadline and then that was it. And there was a lot, there was a lot of setbacks with the book, two years in the making. But when I finally decided no, 11-11 is the date, there was a lot of process there, so a lot of stress. So I always noticed where my trachea was, I get a pain there. It's weird, it's like a ghost pain almost. It's like, it's like that's your sign that you're starting to get something, like something's coming on. And I just am paying more attention to that. And then I'm just so much slower than I used to be. I mean, I just I still get a lot done, but I work from home most of the time now, and I just I don't push. I I say no more. My calendar, my days don't look, they just don't look like they used to. And and I also agree that that's sad because I thrive on be busy, you know, and busy's the new stupid, right?

SPEAKER_03: 18:39

Anyways, being productive is what I like to say. Yeah, yeah, you've been thriving on being productive, yeah. Or what we thought of as productive is actually busy, right? No white space in your calendar, just back to back to back, just keep going. Yeah, guilty, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 18:51

Yeah, and I there's a lot more white space and taking breaks and walking around and going and getting, you know, making sure I'm drinking a lot of water. And I mean, I take supplements like no other. Someone asked me the other day, what do you spend on supplements? Because they saw what I was taking, handfuls when I was at their house. And and I just said, I don't know if I've ever added it up. I'm not sure I want to because I buy things three months at a time or five months at a time, you know. But a lot.

SPEAKER_03: 19:15

Nowhere near the one million dollar hospital bill, so it's fine. It's that's whatever it is, whatever it costs. Yeah, yeah. Holly, what do the physical COVID setbacks feel like for you? You said that you had a 10-week this this year.

SPEAKER_01: 19:31

Yeah, the hardest part is pain comes. So the first week, it's interesting. I almost know the pattern, so that's another thing I'm realizing. So I think people apply this to how you are with your health or your listeners, is who I'm talking to. Think about like when you start getting really stressed, like stress is causes everything. Like that is literally the cause of any ailment at some point. So I'll get like the first week, I'm super tired and then just fatigue. Like, I'm not a napper. I love to be able to be napping every day, but I just never do. I don't stop that way. And I'll be like, no, I'm gonna go lay down for an hour, and then I'm a totally different person. When I wake up, I have energy again. So it's that fatigue would come the first week, and then the second week, the pain set in. So I was going from a four to seven pain from a scale from one to ten all day long. I never could get rid of it. The back of my legs ached. Like I literally, I could tell you I ached from head to toe. So, like a fibromyalgia was there. I never had that before. I had the pulmonary fibrosis from the lung disease, which by the way, okay, another miracle. I went from them telling me I needed to be on a transplant list, lung transplant list, which by the way is worse than a heart transplant, and it only gives you another 10 years. So it's a two to four year lifespan, what they they gave me this diagnosis. Or you get a lung transplant and maybe it'll give you another 10, which some people live 20, whatever. But that was my diagnosis. And I went to a new pulmonologist this year, and he told me yearly I have to do the test to see if it's getting worse. And I know it's not because I'm I'm not feeling worse, other than when I have setbacks. And he said, You don't even need to come do the test next year. If you want to, you can, but you don't even need to do that. And I thought, score, that's the power of mindset. When you focus on wellness, you can heal yourself. I mean, there nobody really knows with pulmonary fibrosis with COVID because nobody had it before. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 21:29

Yeah. So uncharted territory, you're there.

SPEAKER_01: 21:32

Like this is slow down, figure out. But the fatigue really holds you, that holds you back, but the pain's hard. I found a natural botanical that I found a few years ago, about three years ago. And I don't even take them hardly ever anymore. But I was taking a lot of those. It was costing me about probably 900 a month just to have those. There were like 19 different ones I would take, but there was a pain little concoction I would do. It was like a muscle relaxer, a Tylenol, and an ibuprofen, but they're all botanical, they were all natural. And I popped those suckers, and my in 10 minutes, if I started to get a headache, it would be gone in 10 minutes. Like if it just really helped. And sometimes I'd have to take double the amount. Redheads, by the way, have a different tolerance to stuff. And so when I was in the hospital, they were giving me fentanyl and oxycodone. And my daughter was in there that day, and she said, I think I saved your life that day because what happened was being a redhead, I you metabolize differently. So she said they were like overdosing me and withdrawing me at the same time. The fentanyl would be every hour, and my body would metabolize it every 20 minutes. So it was just this dance of trying to figure out like the how it works and what's not gonna kill me or what's gonna be.

SPEAKER_02: 22:45

Yeah, like we don't, we we just push through. We're like, I got I got stuff to do. I don't have time to take a nap, I don't have time to get some more sleep, whatever that, whatever that looks like.

SPEAKER_01: 22:57

It's huge, especially for the biggest message I'd like to say too is you don't have to have your own near death experience to experience a shift. And the shift is my near death shift is the book name, but the shift stands for surrender, hope, intuition, faith, and transformation. And it's basically finding that for yourself. You don't have to almost die to decide you're going to live.

SPEAKER_02: 23:21

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't wait for that to happen.

SPEAKER_01: 23:24

There's signals, just pay attention.

SPEAKER_02: 23:27

And listen, and and everybody's completely different. We all have different signals, but we know we all, every one of us knows when something's not when something's awfully right. Yeah, recognizing it.

SPEAKER_01: 23:38

I love that. Sorry, that wasn't very conversational. I hogged it all. That's okay. This is an awesome message.

SPEAKER_03: 23:45

So exactly. I was gonna ask if you have any key takeaways from the book that you'd like to share with our listeners outside of the SHIFT acronym. So that's an important piece. But do you have any keys that you'd like to to leave us with?

SPEAKER_01: 23:55

The I mean, the biggest message that I love is the love of where they're at because that just changes it, just changes everything. I think if one, if that's one takeaway that somebody could walk away with, I would say that would be that would be a huge one. I mean, it just next time you look at someone, I mean, we all tend to judge. It's just human nature. Next time you look at someone and have a thought that might not be so positive about a person or or driving on the road, just I want you to remember that. I love them where they're at and just give them grace and find the joy in the little stuff. Little shit. I had a guy, I'll tell you this real quick. I gave that message to a guy a year ago, about a year and a half ago. We were on a business cruise and he was a therapist, and he was actually from Puerto Rico. So we stayed up all night talking one time and told him all these stories. And he said to me, when I told him the love and where they're at, he had told me he had a lot of hate in his heart for all these perpetrators and people, you know, he's had to have he's had to fix the people that have done, you know, from the damage and how much hate he had towards those. And when I gave him that message, he sent me a WhatsApp and he sent me a message a couple of times about it since. And he said, You changed my life. He said that my whole feeling around that is so different now. You're right, it's not my place to judge. I need to just love people where they're at. And he said it kind of in his own words, and I loved it. I thought, wow, to that whole cruise was worth going on to know that that one person now can help so many more because they're not judging and hating.

SPEAKER_02: 25:28

Yeah, it would be a much nicer world if we could all have that motto. Love them where they're at. Beautiful.

SPEAKER_03: 25:36

Holly, if someone wants to work with you or get a hold of the book, where can they find it? So release date, I think we've shared it, 1111. Where is it available?

SPEAKER_01: 25:44

I'll give you my link tree and it has every it has the website, the book, everything will be on there. So if they have that link, they can get to anything, all my social media, everything on there. Be the easiest.

SPEAKER_03: 25:55

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01: 25:55

I love it. I love it.

SPEAKER_03: 25:56

That's fabulous. We'll make sure that we put all of your contact information and the link tree in the show notes as well. That's fabulous. Thank you for that. Oh my goodness. Anything that we haven't touched on today, Holly.

SPEAKER_01: 26:06

Oh gosh, who knows?

SPEAKER_02: 26:08

I'll lay in bed tonight and say, I didn't say that. We'll just have you on again after the book has launched because you'll probably have new revelations after the book comes out.

SPEAKER_01: 26:21

Well, I knew when I so this is my 17th book, and there's 17 chapters. I'm a numbers girl. Um seven and one, it's eight, and eight's a great prosperity number and good number abundance. And I knew when I came out, one of the first intuition things hits I got when I was out of the hospital, and it was kind of like, dang, I have two books to write. And I, I mean, I've I already had at that time, I think I had 13 or 14, and they're not all mine, there's some I've been part of as chapters in other people's books. And I was like, dang, I have two more. I thought I was done. And I know this is this is like the book. Like, I'm gonna be more proud of this one than any other. It's it's under spirituality and personal development. So the first half is my stories, a lot of these that I told you, but in more detail. And the second half is the shift and the eight, eight different things that I learned, you know, lessons that I learned and kind of like a life will. I kind of use that. And I had already created it like five years ago for this prosperity event that I was doing in every six months live, and never created a program around it. And it was so weird because one day it dawned on me that it's for this. I was like, oh, it's so weird how later you're like, wow, I didn't realize I didn't have a program around it because the program's this. This is just another shift, you know?

SPEAKER_03: 27:37

Yeah, kind of fun. I love that. Well, congratulations, congratulations on book 17, 17 chapters. Infinity itself. That's fabulous. I love it. I love that. This has been an absolute pleasure. Thank you, thank you, thank you for sharing your story with us.

SPEAKER_02: 27:53

So fun. Well, I appreciate you having me.

SPEAKER_03: 27:56

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SPEAKER_00: 28:19

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