Seasons of Friendship, Grief + Resiliency with Pam and Natalie

Some weeks feel like a country song: the dryer dies, plans derail, and a goodbye hits home. We open up about a raw stretch that brought grief to the table and reminded us why stories, rituals, and the right people matter. From honoring Aunt Irene with a thread of family memories to watching kids face a first real loss, we explore how to hold space for pain while still choosing what helps: presence, small rituals, and honest conversation.

We also dig into the seasons of friendship—those bonds that shaped us for years and then faded as life changed. Letting go without guilt is a skill. We ask the questions that keep your circle healthy: Who leaves you lighter? Who fans your spark? And where are you carrying relationships that no longer fit the person you’re becoming? That clarity extends to social media too. Algorithms follow attention, so we talk about muting triggers, unfollowing what stirs anger, and curating a feed that supports mental health and momentum.

Purpose threads through every segment. While some friends are retiring, we feel like we’re just getting started, and that’s okay. We share updates on races, virtual events, and live plans, along with a candid look at protecting big dreams from well-meaning doubt. Your vision deserves listeners who ask better questions and offer practical support. If you’re navigating grief, recalibrating your tribe, or restarting a passion that still tugs at you, this is a warm, unfiltered space to feel seen and get tools you can use today.

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Transcript

Welcome And Theme Of Resilience

SPEAKER_00 0:06

All of us reach a point in time where we are depleted and need to somehow find a way to reignite the fire within. But how do we spark that flame? Welcome to Reignite Resilience, where we will venture into the heart of the human spirit. We'll discuss the art of reigniting our passion and strategies to stoke our enthusiasm. And now here are your hosts, Natalie Davis and Pamela Cass.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

Welcome back to another episode of Reignite Resilience. I am your co-host Natalie Davis and I am so excited to be back with all of you today. And joining us is the co-host Pam Cass. Hello, Pam. How are you?

Guest Cancellations And Real Talk

SPEAKER_01 0:55

I am giggly, and it's Friday. And it's just been a week. And um, this is the second guest we've had need to cancel unexpectedly, but not because of they didn't want to be on the show.

SPEAKER_03 1:12

Yes. Life, a lot of life has been happening for people um uh over apparently over the last couple of weeks. And and we understand, right? So it gives it just so our listeners understand, uh, when those moments happen, it gives us an opportunity to just chat. So y'all get to hear us chitty chat. Um and and and free ball it and just go from there.

SPEAKER_01 1:36

And it and what's funny is this is not like performance for us. This is just this is how we are when we hang out together. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. And so, and yeah, and my dog's in here today. So there's I love it.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

Well, I mean, as we were prepping for today's show, I my I I if if if the camera was rolling, uh, you all would have just seen like my mouth was on the floor. I'm like, I'm sorry, what? Um, and so yeah, so much so that I uh suggested that we probably send an entire package of sage uh to just people in our world that maybe they would benefit from it, use it.

A Week That Felt Like A Country Song

SPEAKER_01 2:16

Um I don't know if there's enough sage in the world to take on some of these things, some of the things that are happening.

SPEAKER_03 2:26

I know. Well, I mean, let's just say for for starters, we'll talk about what is close to home, our very own. Pam. Yeah, your your your this past week has literally been a country song for you. You guys did not know about the country song. Go back to the side. What did we have a dog about it?

Remembering Aunt Irene And Shared Memories

SPEAKER_01 2:43

Because we we had a I had a country song maybe a couple years ago on the podcast. My dog, I found out my dog had cancer. Like it was just like a a week, my refrigerator died, I think. Yep. It was like three or four things that happened that week. And I feel like this is one of those weeks where it's almost to the point where it's so ridiculous, you're like, really? Yeah, like all in one week. We just gotta do it this week. And I guess I would rather get it all done in a week and be done and move on with life and chess. So um, something happened obviously we over the weekend, and um, I'm not ready to share that because that was a very traumatic um experience that's probably a whole podcast episode. Um and then last night um lost my ex-sister-in-law to to her battle with cancer, which um and it just got me thinking about people that have these impacts on our lives over the years, you know, friends that come into our lives, family members that come into our lives, and then they leave our lives for one reason or another. Um, divorce, which is obviously she was part of my life for 23 years when I was married. She was very much, I considered her a sister. Um my ex-husband has six sisters, and she was one I was probably closest to because she had a daughter that was the same age as my oldest daughter, and so uh we did a lot of stuff together. And I'm doing a tech stream with my three kids right now to try to keep this memory alive. And I said, How about we all share fun stories about Aunt Irene over the years that we remember and I'll start. And my first memory was before I think it no, we were married. Um, my husband and I were married at the time, and it was the first week of kindergarten for my oldest daughter, and she got chicken pox. And so I called her and she goes, Oh, well, just bring her up here. And I think her daughter hadn't had chicken pox, and she goes, Well, then she can, my daughter can get it, and then we'll be good. And so I went to Steamboat for the week, and it was like a little mini vacation, and that was like my very first memory of spending significant time with her. And so um, then the kids started to slowly start to do memories, and then I would do more memories, and it's um just a way to kind of honor honor somebody's life, but she was such a significant part, and then we divorced, and of course, I wasn't considered family anymore, so very much lost touch. I found out about her cancer diagnosis a few years ago. Um, I did reach out to my ex-husband to see if it would be okay if I reached out to her. I was able to talk to her, I was able to see her a couple of years ago at uh baby shower for my daughter, and I got to reconnect. And even though she's not been fully in my life, it's still somebody that played a significant role in my world for a period of time that's now no longer there. So there's this void. And it's just got me thinking about, you know, friends that I had when I was married because we were married, and then they kind of fell off, and then friends at old jobs that I worked at that or that I served volunteered with over the years. You have people that ebb and flow into your life. And it's not that you stop caring about those people, it's just we change. They change, we grow.

SPEAKER_03 6:12

Life changes, right? Your situation changes or what have you. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 6:17

And so I'm just like in this, you know, this point of just like honoring the people that have come and gone in my life that have had those spaces, but then allowing myself permission to not feel guilty about the ones that have kind of fallen off of my life that I don't feel that connection with anymore. And it's okay. And it is okay, yeah. Yeah. And new people come into my world that exactly fill me with joy. So exactly.

How Kids Process Loss For The First Time

SPEAKER_03 6:44

And I mean, sometimes it's like friendships, other times it's family as well, right? Like as you talk about your ex-in-laws and and and I mean, they're still like aunts to your children, and you have that connection. And um, I I think that's a piece is like you don't really have a choice in who is going to come in and who's going to exit. It just kind of naturally and organically happens over time. Yeah. Um, and then I think what you're talking about, like being able to like just honor that and have appreciation and gratitude for the season that they were here and um and and and how you grew and and connected and the experiences and memories that you had together. And and that's it, right? That's yeah, yeah. That's wild. That's wild. Yeah. Well, I'm sorry for your loss. I'm I'm I'm how are the kids taking it? Are they okay?

SPEAKER_01 7:34

Are the kids Well, it's it's interesting because this really is the first person they've lost that they were close with. Um because my ex's husband or mother passed away. Oh my gosh, it's it's been years. I want to say 2015, she passed away. So the kids were young and they really didn't have much of a relationship with her because she really didn't live here. She was living in Havasu. Um but this aunt Irene lived in steamboat. And so my kids, when she came down, she always made an effort to see them. When they went up there, she made an effort to see them. And so this was somebody that was had a significant role in their life. And it's interesting watching the girls, my daughters, how they're kind of processing through it. Um Dylan's having a harder time, and I think it's just him, he's more worried about his dad, um his sister, which I completely get, but I don't know that Dylan really understands how to process um losing somebody. Because when you're young, it's like they're there and then they're not there. And it's right. And it's yeah, so it's it's gonna be really it's probably gonna be really tough when they go to a funeral and um get to see everybody and then go through that process because I've been to a lot of funerals and they don't get easier the older you.

SPEAKER_03 8:54

Exactly. Um, I don't think it gets any easier with time. And and it's and it's interesting that you say that he's like he's trying to process and then he's also thinking about his dad, because I I started to think about the the first close family member that passed away for me was my grandmother, which was biologically my great grandmother, but still my grandmother that I knew. And I no, that's not correct. It was it would have been my grandfather, and he and I was like nine or ten. And I just so and that's young, right? For for grandpa to pass away. So nine or ten years old. Um I don't you're I nine or ten, you're not in a frame of mind that you're thinking about anybody else. It's just like this overwhelming sense of sadness that comes over, right? And then like and but everyone around you is doing stuff, right? Like it's now we've got to do the we've got to call everyone, and then we've got to make the funeral arrangements, and now we've got to go to the funeral, and now you go back to business as usual, like go back to your your life, right? Now like go go figure it out. And no one really talks about like how how do you process that? Whatever age you are for the first time you experience it, um it's tough.

SPEAKER_01 10:05

It's very tough.

SPEAKER_03 10:06

Yeah. Yeah.

Grief As We Age And Wider Circles

SPEAKER_01 10:07

And everybody, and if you think about it, you know, you lost a grandparent, parents lost a parent. I mean, everybody's trying to process the grief and the loss themselves, and then to think about well, how do I help my kids process through this this grief? It it's hard because everybody's grieving in their own way. And it makes it, yeah, it makes it such an interesting, challenging thing. And it's, I mean, death is inevitable. We are all going to have people around us that that we care about that are going to pass away.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

And um yeah, how we all handle it, that's a that's a whole different I think that's the that's the um that's kind of the the magical piece of the puzzle, is because well, we don't know. Um and and you're so right, like everyone in well, at least my experience has been like everyone older than me that experienced death the same times that I experienced death or and throughout my life. Um it it's more of how can we just keep things the same, right? Like this is this is a huge disruptor. How can we make sure that the rest of life just stays pretty similar to what it was? And let's not let it, you know, ruffle our feathers too too much, but it's huge, depending on the person that has passed away, right? And I've again I've experienced a lot of death as well, both grandparents, both parents, like I've aunts and uncles and um and everything in between that I've watched pass away over the years, and um it's yeah, it's not easy. No, it's not easy.

SPEAKER_01 11:38

You and I just lost a a mutual friend that we served together in our industry and very unexpected. Um, I had uh I mean, I didn't know that she was sick again. I knew she had battled cancer, I didn't realize it was back, and um and so that was kind of a shock. And and here's what here's what they don't tell you about getting older is you it not only getting older, but the more you're visible, depending on your industry, your circle expands. And so you know so many more people than you did when you were a nine-year-old child. Yeah, and so now I feel like it's every other day, it's like, oh, this happened, and you're just like, what the heck? Yes, because you know so many people.

SPEAKER_03 12:27

Exactly. Yep, exactly. Yeah, yeah. I I like to stop people and like friends, not other people, not strangers. I wouldn't stop strangers from talking about it when but when like friends get together and it turns into this conversation of, oh, well, I've got this ailment and this sickness and I've got this and so and so pass away. I'm like, we've gotta stop. This is not this is this is not everything that we're all about. Like, we've got to reel it in.

Choosing Joy Over Negativity

SPEAKER_01 12:50

Like, reel it in. Well, I I was joking. Oh, yeah, but I was joking with somebody because it used to be that you know, we'd make a meal because somebody, you know, uh tore their ACL playing, you know, tennis or something, or um whatever had a baby or whatever. Now it's like hip replacements and shoulder reconstruction, and I'm just like, oh, we have we're in that space now. Exactly. Exactly. It's yeah, and you get a casserole for that. And here's your a casserole for you, a casserole for you, and a casserole for you.

SPEAKER_03 13:24

Yeah, I mean, that's it is it it is absolutely in cycles. Um, but there are those little sporadic pieces, right? Because like for your kids, they're probably still in the season of life where you know their peers are getting married and having kids and starting like adult jobs and you know, like doing all of those, like the the the Q uh first quarter type of activities in life. Yeah, yeah. And so um to have like such a a tragic event like happen, it definitely is a disruptor. It and it's hard for for people to process. Yeah, it could be hard for people to process. I don't know. Everyone processes differently.

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Everybody's yeah, everybody processes different. And and when you have such a big family, you know that it's inevitable that you're gonna go through the loss of, you know, and this is someone and this is the youngest sister. And so, um, yeah, so it's it's yeah, it's hard. And so um, you know, be present. Uh, you know, the people that you love and want to keep in your life, make sure that you're doing everything in your ability to reach out so you don't have any regrets about um the time that you didn't get to spend with them. And exactly. And yeah, and those friends that no longer feel, you know, like they are your people because you've changed. Give yourself grace and be okay letting it, letting them go. It doesn't mean you don't care about them anymore. It just means that you're in a different season of your life and there are different people that you want to surround yourself with because of the person you've become and be okay letting go of the people that just aren't aren't your people anymore.

SPEAKER_03 16:06

Exactly. I think it's it's it's like you look at death from the the literal sense and then figuratively speaking, right? Like it's the relationships that that were born and grew and and then those they fade away and they pass. Um, and then the actual, you know, literal um passing of individuals that are in your life. I think either way, though, it's really important to make sure that you give yourself time to process it, right? Like as the way that you all are doing in your group chat, it's like, let's take this time to remember all of the great memories. Yeah. Um, the the which usually the good memories are around something wild or crazy that has happened that has made it memorable. Yeah. Um, no one remembers just the average dinner where everybody sat down and set the table and nothing eventful happened. It's the, you know, it's when the dog eats the turkey off the table. That's the those are the things that the memory.

SPEAKER_01 17:00

Yeah. Well, I want to think I want to say that my second memory was of us being up at her house, and we were making grinders, which are you take a French bread and you hollow it out, and you put meatballs and cheese and sauce in it, and then you wrap it in foil and you bake it, and the electricity went. I never made that. It's like a it's like a meatball sub, but it's all in one. It's like all inside the bread, so it's awesome. And so we made them and uh the power went out. We're like, well, how what are we how are we gonna cook these? And well, we were in steamboat and they had a you know wood-burning fireplace, and so all of our grinders were sitting up on the wood-burning fireplace as we sat around with candles and we talked and laughed and um had fun. And so that was that was my second memory with I that I share with the kids because uh Dylan and Gwen weren't born at that point. It was just Noelle and it was Irene's old house. And so tons of memories from from years and years past that it's it's fun to kind of um look back. And this kind of all spurred for me when I went to Palm Springs uh Valentine's weekend to visit a couple of my friends and and I've known them for years, and we sat around and we started talking, and we're like, oh my gosh, what whatever happened to such and such, and whatever happened to such and such because we were such close friends. Yes, and I was like, I have no idea where they are or what happened, or they moved to a different company and lost track of them, and I've no idea where they are, and it's just like wow, it's so interesting how many people have come in and out of our lives over the years that you just forget, but they had a reason to be there when they were there.

Protecting Dreams And Curating Your Tribe

SPEAKER_03 18:44

There was a reason in that season, exactly, exactly. I it's interesting though, because I think of the opposite side of that, like the friends that you don't really connect with um maybe three or four times a year, but it's like you pick up in the exact same spot, right? It's like, oh, you pick up right where you left off. You haven't missed a beat, it's like you just saw each other yesterday, but it's actually been three or four months, or even six months, or in some cases a year, right? Or more. Um, but then you just pick right back up. And so it's it's interesting how you have these different um levels of interaction with different friendships uh without it throughout your life as well, right? And and I'm talking friendships, not just family members. Yeah, because that happens, like family members that you haven't seen in a decade.

SPEAKER_01 19:27

Yeah, and that you kind of have to pick up because I mean they're family, you can't really get rid of them. But I love those friends that you call. I don't know if you have to, but I guess that's true. You don't have to if you don't want to. You do whatever you want. But yeah, I love those friends that you could you haven't talked to in a year, and you could call them and you get back together, and it's like you it was like yesterday that you were connected. And so those are the three ones.

SPEAKER_03 19:50

Absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I love the friendships and the seasons. And I think that's we talk about our um the importance of your tribe uh on the show quite a bit. And that's um one of the key pieces when we talk about resiliency, is or at least having strong resiliency, is like understanding who you're surrounding yourself with and um and making sure that you're surrounding yourself with the people that you want to be in your life. Um, and so when you have like any type of disruption or fracturing of that, it it's a moment for you to again, I think it's a perfect time for you to have gratitude and appreciation for the friendship or the relationship when it was there, and then um, you know, and then moving on and acknowledging where you are and always doing a quick like can you do an assessment of of who is part of my life right now? And are they actually pouring into me or are they sucking me dry?

SPEAKER_01 20:42

Right, like that's and I I think that's an important one, especially with all of the negativity in the world right now that's coming at us from every direction. Um, to make sure that the people that you're surrounding yourself with are those people that fill your your joy meter. Like I want those people that when I leave, I feel like I could run through a wall, like, oh, I feel so good. Not the people that want to gossip, talk bad about other people, talk about negative crap that's happening out in the world. That that all that does for that. I have no, I have zero time with that for that. And when I look at like the events that happened this week, I don't want to waste any moment of my life on stupid stuff.

Retirement, Purpose, And Late-Blooming Drive

SPEAKER_03 21:26

Exactly. The things that don't matter, yeah. And that's I I feel that um like when we go into a lot of the way uh or a big way that people are are staying connected is through social media, and it's so interesting because I I don't consider myself one that that sits on social media quite a bit, but we I just came back from a conference and Gary V was there, and you know, now I've got to be on every platform all the time, and I don't know how I'm gonna manage to do that. But anyway, Gary V said to do it. Shout out to Gary V. Thank you. I'm listening. Um, but the more that I get plugged in into that space, it's so interesting because uh for me, I look at the the platform from a business standpoint, right? Every so often I'll share personal things that are going on, but for the most part, I I use it from an entrepreneurial standpoint that it's business, right? And so when I get on and I see like just I'm just gonna say like hateful things that are said, and I'm I I I have these moments where it like catches me off guard because I've been intentional about who I surround myself with and and who's a part of my life. And then I I kind of get slapped in the face with these things and I'm like oh and it is so easy. I don't need to see that anymore. We are done. Unfollowed if I am like getting triggered or if I can feel my blood pressure going. Up or if I'm questioning, like, where how is there such a big misalignment? Like, all of those, if any of that comes to mind, I'm like, okay, I this something has gone awry. Yeah. And it's okay, right? Like, and it's not that I don't have respect for people's opinions, but it once you cross a threshold of just like being nasty and hateful, I don't 100% that there's no space for that in my world. Um, I just don't there's no need for it, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:23

Is enough hate out there without us, you know, what we put into the universe, we get back. You're gonna get back, yeah. And and here's the problem with social media as soon as you watch one of those videos, you're gonna get more of those videos.

SPEAKER_03 23:37

You get more of it because now they've the algorithm is built for it.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Algorithm's like, ooh, Natalie likes hate videos. Let's send in her stuff. So I'm just like, nope, nope, delete sending a board.

SPEAKER_03 23:48

I I had this conversation with my uh with one of the the drivers that was taking me back to the airport after our trip. And yeah, um, and she was uh just uh uh an amazing human, like really going in um fabulous places. Like this was you can just tell a side hustle that was fueling and funding her main gig. And um, she was talking about the people that she shared her dream with, and and she shared her dream with me, random gal that's sitting in the back of her car she had never met before. And um, she was like, I'm kind of and I was very supportive. I'm all about it, right? Like, that's your vision. You felt it, you got the download, you're gonna do it, go and do it. Like, I'm here, how can I support you? Yeah, and so she was like, It's interesting because I'm very um intentional about who I share my dreams with because I started sharing my dreams with close family members and friends, and they started questioning, well, how are you gonna do that? Or so-and-so, she was moving to a different state. So-and-so moved to that state and they didn't like it. And she's like, Well, I'm not so-and-so, and I'm gonna figure out a way because I know this is the direction that I need to go in. Right. So it's like she realized in that moment, like, I've got the wrong people in my tribe. Um, or I'm gonna keep these people in my tribe, but I'm definitely not sharing um the important things that are going on in my life, which I don't think is very healthy, right? Like you've got to be able to share the and celebrate the successes with someone. And so she found herself in the spot where the people in her life were not supportive of her at all.

SPEAKER_04 25:22

Yeah.

Marathons, Napa Update, And Future Plans

SPEAKER_03 25:22

Um, and instead questioned and planted seeds of doubt. Um, and she's like, I'm done. I don't and I can have a party.

SPEAKER_01 25:30

We know that that when people plant doubt, it's because there's usually some sort of jealousy. They're just like, Yes, they're jealous that you're taking that leap to do that. And, you know, and I think I think that's probably a lot of where the disconnect has been for me is I've got a lot of my older old friends, not older as an age, but old friends that are starting to retire. And I feel like I'm God, I feel like I'm just starting. Oh, so I was like, I got way we got way too many lives to change um to stop back and not do that right now. Yes, and I will and I will say it's because you know, I for 23 years I was in a a spot where I couldn't do anything. And so I feel, and now my kids are older, and so I feel like I'm just now starting, like I feel like I just graduated from college and I'm I got the same debt as a college student.

SPEAKER_03 26:21

Yay! You're like rang on two. Let's do it. No, and you know what? Kudos to the people that are retiring. Like I like am like, oh my gosh, no, that's not where I am in life. And I it's so interesting you say that because in my 20s and 30s, I definitely was of that mindset of, you know, I want to retire early. Like by the time I'm 50, at least I want to retire. Yeah. And that way I can, you know, spend a good segment of my life seeing the world, doing things that I want to do.

SPEAKER_01 26:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 26:58

But that was before I realized that I could do the things that I actually wanted to do, and that becomes part of my profession or my livelihood or how I make money. And so um, yeah, it's it's it and now it feels like I kind of program myself to want to retire early. And like as I'm knocking on 50s door, I'm like, you know what? That's I can't even imagine retiring right now. That would not girl.

SPEAKER_01 27:22

I'm on I'm so far on the other side of that 50s door that I don't even I can't even see it anymore, girl. Sheesh, I'm gonna, I'm on the tail end of the 50s. So well, we're we're there. It's okay. I don't even I don't even care because I am so excited about just the opportunities that continue to come and the um the people that are continuing to come into our world and the people that are like-minded like us. The the new tribe that I see in my life are these other women that are in our age bracket that are launching and doing these incredible things. And those are the people I want to be around because those inspire me, they get me excited, and yeah, it's nothing to do with the friends that I've had that I love, still love. It's just a different, I'm just in a different space, and I need to be around other people that are gonna push me and hold me accountable and you know something that you've always done for me. And it's like, yeah, I I gotta, we got we got shit to do.

Events, Live Shows, And Community Invites

SPEAKER_03 28:22

We got exactly like just but you like may you have great enjoyment as you transition into retirement. That's lovely. Good on you. Yes, um, still call me for dinner, still call me for vacation. I'll do those things, I'll still with you.

SPEAKER_01 28:37

Yeah, absolutely. But you know, we'll see. We got we got stuff to do, so exactly.

SPEAKER_03 28:45

I'm not quite there yet. I don't uh I only have a handful of people in my life that retired early by choice. Yeah, and to be quite honest, I don't even know what they're doing because we don't connect like that. So yeah, it's hard.

SPEAKER_01 29:01

I'm like, what are they doing? Where are they? It's really hard to have a conversation with somebody when they're like, So, so what are you doing? I'm like, Well, we just wrote a book, we've we're doing this, we got this retreat thing going on, we got this blah blah blah, and they're they're those like and you can kind of see like I watched the today show.

SPEAKER_02 29:18

Okay, I don't know what returned. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 29:21

The eyes glaze over a little bit and they're doing wonderful, amazing things themselves. It's just we're just you know, we different place, we're just in a different space, different spots, exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_03 29:32

And how again, it's all just the seasons, seasons, various seasons of friendships, and that's I mean, even when you're going through um hardships as well, like that's probably a time that you see a shift in um in friendships as well, right? Like you don't realize the people that you draw in to be close to you when you're going through big um life changes, and then and you know, and then realizing okay, I think I'm I'm prepared or in a space that I can actually connect with my bigger tribe again. But yeah, yeah, it's it's all seasonal.

SPEAKER_01 30:02

It's it is it is all seasonal. So yeah, so this was fun.

SPEAKER_03 30:09

I'm so oh we didn't tell everyone what the country western song was. Okay, so the perfect formula for a country western song, if you feel that you are living in a country western song as we speak, um, it is basically the series of three major events happening at the same time, typically not uplifting events like tragedy or setback or obstacle or something. So as Pam mentioned, like it you did.

Humor, Mantras, And Letting Stuff Go

SPEAKER_01 30:39

I think it was like well, and I forgot to tell you that before last weekend I got back from Palm Springs to find out that my dryer was dead. Of course. So that should have been solid. My stupid appliance is dying. And so for the last two weeks, we've had clothes, underwear, everything hung all strewn all over our house drying. And then I told the kids, I'm like, you know what? I kind of like the way my clothes smell. Like when they air dry dried. Yes. I'm like, maybe we just don't get a dryer. Yeah, they're like, really? Absolutely not. Definitely not. Well, what I do know is you cannot air dry towels, they get crunchy.

SPEAKER_03 31:16

So gross. Yeah, that would be now.

SPEAKER_01 31:18

I have a dryer. So uh the it was a three. Again, it was three major things that happened, and I'm on the other side of it. Yes, and it will make a good couple of chapters in my book.

SPEAKER_03 31:29

You should have started with the dryer going out. All of your country songs start with the science. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:35

Always it was the refrigerant the last time.

SPEAKER_03 31:37

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 31:38

And I don't even remember. I know the dog was the other one, dog cancer, and I don't remember what the third one was.

SPEAKER_03 31:44

There was a third, there was something else that was there. Anyway, any anyway. Oh, I am curious. I do want to know because we have is it next month? What we thought was June is actually happening in March. Um the Napa Maryland.

SPEAKER_01 32:01

Oh my gosh. Yes, okay. So and I don't know what else. It's actually happening.

SPEAKER_03 32:07

Let's bring everyone up to speed.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

What are we okay? So we had a guest, uh Mary Jo Higgins. Yes. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 32:16

Wig Wiggins.

SPEAKER_02 32:17

Wiggins. Wiggins.

Where To Watch And Stay Connected

SPEAKER_01 32:18

Okay. She was our guest. Gosh, I want to say probably the first year. She was introduced to us by uh one of my coaching clients, Julia, and she on her 40th birthday was diagnosed with cold stage four colon cancer. So not like a joke. And she had before she even got this diagnosis, was going to run a marathon or a half marathon in all 50 states. And so she got to this point where um she gets that diagnosis before she started treatment. I want to say she ran two or three more states before she actually started her treatment. And we had talked to her and she said that her 50th state, she was gonna do the Napa half mare half marathon. Um and it's next month. Now, I thought it was in July because that's when I ran the half marathon. So I wasn't training, I wasn't doing anything. And then we get this message, and I'm like, I can't, I know I'm I I can't. So um I spoke to her this week. She actually emailed, she texted me and she said she's got about 80 people that are just there to support them and cheer them on, and then she's got a group that's running. So um, we are so proud of her um making it to this milestone. She's had setbacks, she's had um more things show up. So she's been doing chemo again. So it's kind of this constant battle. I am going to be in Nashville in September. Natalie, if you want to join me, uh Dylan and um Ashlyn, my son and his girlfriend turned 21. And so we're doing a Nashville trip. So I would love it if you would want to go. And I told her I would reach out so that we could connect with her in um in Nashville, and she goes, Oh my gosh, I would love that. So, and maybe we do a recording from Nashville with her.

SPEAKER_03 34:09

Absolutely. To get another possible, absolutely, I think that would be a and just so we're clear on the roles, like I never signed up to record.

SPEAKER_01 34:17

No, Natalie was going to bring the meat sticks and donuts. That's it. And that was all that was getting me through the race was the thought of the meat sticks and donuts, but not maybe together.

SPEAKER_03 34:26

You all, it's all about staying in your lane. I know my strengths, I would be there with meat sticks, donuts, and a smile, and it would be amazing. Perfect. And I've got a pretty good cheering voice because I'm a sports mom and it was a sports mom. Oh, yeah. We can scream. Yeah, I can I can scream with the best of them. Yeah. So uh, but but yes, let's do it. I'm so excited that she has it on the books. Um, we were definitely caught off guard when that message came through.

SPEAKER_01 34:53

Because it was like two weeks before the event. And I was like, uh, no, no, no, no, no. I can't. I have not even I haven't run since I did the Napa half marathon, and that was how many years ago?

SPEAKER_03 35:04

The last time. Okay. Three years ago. I feel like there's a marathon that's in on the horizon for you.

SPEAKER_01 35:11

You know what I want to do? I want to do a half marathon in Ireland. Okay, good on you. Okay, okay. That is intriguing to me. So if there's any fellow runners that want to do that, and maybe uh I'll ask Mary Joe when we are there in September.

SPEAKER_03 35:30

Must be in the summer because it would be too crisp in the winter.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

Yeah, but wouldn't that be fantastic?

SPEAKER_03 35:36

Uh if I were a runner, I'd say yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:41

Well, here's the thing. I say I'm a runner. I've done a half marathon, but I'm like you. I was like a one, and I'm like, I've I've checked the box.

SPEAKER_03 35:49

I should run a runner. If I were one that enjoyed running for fun, I would say yes. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 35:55

My I I enjoy the mentalness of running, like the being outside, just completely in your thoughts. What I don't love is what my body tells me as I'm running. Like, oh, this hip hurts. Why does that foot hurt? Oh my god, my chems hurt. And then it's everything hurts.

SPEAKER_03 36:13

And you didn't need that toenail anyway.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

I didn't need I've never I'm gonna knock out some wood. I've never lost a toenail. Oh running. And that has to do with your shoes. It does have to do with your shoes. It does. And so I was diligent about changing shoes every three months.

SPEAKER_03 36:31

Exactly. Yeah, you've got to put you've got to change them out with the miles, which was something that I thought was unheard of, but it's real.

SPEAKER_01 36:38

That's real stuff. It's totally real. And it was funny because my body knew as soon as my right hip started hurting, I was like, oh, time for new shoes. And I did new shoes, and then we're fine. And um, so yeah, so so that was a thing. So yeah, so we're excited about that.

SPEAKER_03 36:51

And and then we've got some other I'll do some research and find out where the when the Ireland uh half is is is available. You're gonna do the research or you want me to do you should do the research, but I just to hold you accountable, I'm gonna do a quick little double check.

SPEAKER_01 37:04

All right, fine, whatever. And then you and I've got some fun stuff that we've got um coming up. We're both gonna be on Rachel Jane Groover's uh YouTube show. So I'm a little excited about that. So we're gonna be doing that next month. Um, we've got some virtual events that are coming up that we will promote on here. So we've got uh one coming up in May. We've got one or a two-day event virtually in August. So you were not stopping. No, not yet. We may not be physically running, but we are mentally running. Stay tuned. Exactly.

SPEAKER_03 37:40

It's gonna be exciting. Yeah, that we have a fabulous, um, just a webinar, 90-minute webinar that we are doing in May. And then um later this year, we are doing a two-day virtual event that is going to be jam-packed with surprises. And we are bringing back our live event, and it's going to take place in Loveland in 2027. Um, yeah, we've got things around the calendar. Um, a lot of opportunities for you all to come out and connect with us live, connect with us online, um, or just simply continue to listen to the podcast. Make sure you download.

SPEAKER_01 38:17

But but put on your calendar January 22nd of 2027. Yes. So you have no excuse. Yes. There's no way you got that planned already. So put that in your calendar. It's a Friday, Loveland, Colorado. Come and spend the day with uh Natalie and I. And um, yeah, we're just we're gonna keep doing this until people are like, get those girls off the ice.

SPEAKER_03 38:40

No, not me. I like I just I I like the I see you everywhere because I will be.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

Yeah, we want to be, we want to be everywhere. And if there's any people out there that would like to see Natalie and I on TV, we would love to do a talk show. So we just need a an introduction or a connection. So I'm sure one of our listeners knows somebody.

SPEAKER_03 38:58

I feel like we're doing it. So uh my partner brought that to my attention. He was like, no offense to television, but television's out and streaming is in. And so it's more the video setup, which we're already doing. So I feel like we're already there. Do we need to do it in a studio? Like, what do y'all want to see? Yeah, what do you want from us? Exactly.

SPEAKER_01 39:19

What do you want to want from us? We're here to do what you want us to do for you. Yes, because we're all about giving. Exactly. And there you have we're just givers, and that's how we're ending our country music song today.

SPEAKER_03 39:37

Today, yes, thank you for listening in on it. Yes, and we'll we'll hear the the the rest of Pam's song um here in the in the future. Um, but here you are, you guys. This is us free balling and raw dogging all through this episode.

SPEAKER_01 39:52

Free balling and raw dogging. Okay, I've not heard the raw dogging, and I kind of like that. So I think we might need t-shirts, free ball and raw and raw dogging.

SPEAKER_03 40:03

It's definitely gonna change the tone, but if you are not doing that, I mean, do you have resiliency? Come on, that's the real question.

SPEAKER_01 40:10

Oh, yeah, because you know what? We do, because we always have shit flying at us, and I've gotten really good at like bobbin and weaving bobbin and weaving. It's not mine. Not mine, not mine, not mine.

Closing Thanks And Subscribe Prompt

SPEAKER_03 40:22

That's not mine. That's not mine. Push it out of the way. Oh my gosh. All right, well, make sure that you check out if you want to see the video version of this episode. You can always check it out on YouTube at the Reignite Resilience podcast on YouTube or um connect with us on Instagram and Facebook at the Reignite Resilience page. A lot of amazing things. Our marketing team has been hilarious here recently because I feel like they're intentionally grabbing clips where we have the most ridiculous faces. Um, and it's just become comical. Check out what we look like. We're cool. Not cool, Rebecca. So you capture us in that animated moment. Here you have it.

SPEAKER_01 41:02

Yeah, I always love those when you're you got that video and where it's paused and you're starting, and you've got this like yes, tongue sticking out, and your face is all creeped up, and you're like, that's where it froze me.

SPEAKER_03 41:13

Nice. That's what I look like. Nice. And here's the hard part is that someone actually saw me looking like that, and that's okay. That's fine. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 41:21

At this age, I don't really care.

SPEAKER_03 41:23

I don't care. And it was just for the record, it's out of context. You had to watch the whole episode to understand why we make those features.

SPEAKER_01 41:29

Absolutely. Because stuff happens.

SPEAKER_03 41:33

Oh my gosh. Until next time, we will see you all soon. Um, enjoy and have an amazing week. Talk to you all soon. Bye bye.

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Bye, everybody.

SPEAKER_00 41:51

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