Double Edge Fitness

Chase Brady is leaving Double Edge Fitness to protect and serve his community.

Derek and Jacob Wellock

What happens when your life's carefully planned trajectory suddenly pivots in an unexpected direction? Chase Brady, longtime coach at Double Edge Fitness, joins the podcast to reveal his surprising decision to transition from fitness coaching to law enforcement after completing his master's degree in exercise physiology.

The conversation begins with Chase's revelation that despite years of planning for a doctoral program or physical therapy school, he found himself increasingly drawn to the Washoe County Sheriff's Department. With characteristic thoroughness, Chase approached this decision by conducting extensive interviews with current officers, preparing 24 questions for each and spending three hours in conversation with them. His conclusion was definitive: "This is 1 billion percent where I'm supposed to be."

Chase and Derek discuss the challenging moment when Chase first shared his plans to leave Double Edge, the emotional weight of that conversation, and how they're both approaching this transition with optimism rather than loss. For Chase, this decision aligns with his personal values and desire to serve the community in a new capacity, summarized in his father's wise phrase: "You plan, God laughs."

The podcast also covers Chase's recent health journey, including blood work showing elevated cholesterol levels and the proactive steps he's taking to optimize his metabolic health before entering law enforcement. Chase shares insights from his master's research on improving health for night shift officers through sleep and exercise modalities, knowledge that will serve him well in his new career.

For Double Edge members wondering about the gym's future programming and coaching lineup, Derek outlines his approach to finding Chase's replacement and his own increased involvement in programming. Their candid conversation offers a fascinating glimpse into how life's unexpected turns often lead us exactly where we're meant to be.

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Speaker 1:

You hear yourself talk anyway, I know, but it sounds different right now than when I don't have my headphones on.

Speaker 2:

What's funny is when I started to become an influencer. Oh fuck.

Speaker 1:

Are we live right now? Maybe, Okay, are we allowed to swear?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, okay, it's an X-rated podcast, even though I try to keep it. Can you lean over? Never mind, hold on, we're not quite there yet. Can you lean over? Never mind, hold on, we're not quite there yet. I keep forgetting the accent. Light is going to make you pop in the video. Oh shit, man.

Speaker 1:

There see, Is this why my paycheck was lighter last week?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, your paycheck was probably lighter because you take more time off than anybody. I know that's fair, but getting used to hearing yourself talk, it becomes normal. You think it's normal, but at first I would re-watch all the videos that I make and so many of them I deleted because I hated the way I said it.

Speaker 1:

I don't think I'll be able to watch this. I'll probably have Jamie watch it for me, and then let me know if I sound like an asshole.

Speaker 2:

We'll find out.

Speaker 1:

I'm like do you use this?

Speaker 2:

This is probably going to be the most watched podcast that I've done since starting the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Why is that?

Speaker 2:

And not for good reason oh.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say is it because I'm your favorite? I mean, I would like to think that. I'd like to think that I think, as long as we keep it, maybe you, between you and me, will be because I'm your favorite.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got to make sure all my children know that I love them.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can be your, non, I can be your favorite non-biological child.

Speaker 2:

First, as many of you know, this is Chase Brady. It's Chase Brady and, like always, we got to bring in the intro music. Introduce Chase Brady, coach Double Edge Fitness, and we are here today to discuss some evolving events that are going on, so we're going to give them a little round of applause. Welcome to the show, pal.

Speaker 1:

Thanks for coming on. How long and how much time did it take you to create that entrance music?

Speaker 2:

It's funny, Ryan Key, he asked me that yesterday and it's default settings on this thing.

Speaker 1:

Well, that's I put zero effort into that. Okay, thank God.

Speaker 2:

I do want to talk with Alex.

Speaker 1:

Vicky With Vicky.

Speaker 2:

He knows this whole world.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Sound? Yeah, obviously he's created quite a few hit songs. He sure has, and see about creating like a double-edged official intro, because I assume that's the same music that comes on all these yeah, probably yeah, I mean it's a banger.

Speaker 1:

You can make him have a, make him have pay feeky to do a jingle yeah, that'd be great.

Speaker 2:

A little hip-hop jingle, oh dude, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, be unique to double edge it would. I will say this is fun. I like the podcast do you? Do you need a co-host on the podcast? I love it. Do we have enough mics for a co-host? I could do four.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yesterday, three of us in here at the figure out the settings, okay, um, these things with two is great. Okay, even three. I had a little mic. But a fourth person I'm trying to figure out with like just podcast only.

Speaker 1:

It's simple, but yeah trying to what the you can put like another chair right here yeah, but then their back would be in the video no, no, if I. Well, yeah, we can figure that.

Speaker 2:

But I do it with like ryan and alissa because they're small, just stuff, yeah, in the corner, for sure I feel like I would make both of them can sit right there.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying I think I would make a really good cohost.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm always down to have people on here. Okay. It is really difficult and I'm sure the audience of double edge don't really want to see me all the time I like seeing you all the time. You're not even on social media.

Speaker 1:

I'm not, but I see you every day, that's true.

Speaker 2:

I like getting other people involved in this, because one different points of view, different thoughts, different voices yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's fantastic. You just let me know when you have the next guest on, and I'll come Monday.

Speaker 2:

CrossFit Code.

Speaker 1:

CrossFit Code's coming or Tuesday.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we're going to try to get Leo on too. Leo, catching up with past coaches, we're that in life now. Yeah, how they're keeping their fitness together. I mean Code's crushing it.

Speaker 1:

How the Achilles is going on, coach Leo.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're like Code switch jobs. Yeah, new deal. Had a baby, got married, had a baby.

Speaker 1:

Now he's the fucking flash. Yeah, he's so fast.

Speaker 2:

He's still dominating his health and fitness and that's badass to see. I mean, there's a lot of new dads particularly. But when you add career change, fatherhood, that just kind of let themselves go to shit, and it's been awesome watching him just keep ownership of his health and just catch up with him Very much so I like keeping tabs. Yeah, get Leo on here and see what Keely's tendon rehab's like. Not great Long long time he did a little sled pushes the other day.

Speaker 1:

Did he really? Was he in here? No On.

Speaker 2:

Instagram. Yeah, our relationship is the occasional text message, like most of my relationships with people, and keeping up with you and talking shit on instagram. Yeah, that's fair, so okay, so, yeah, all right. So enough of the uh. What do you call that kind of talk? Small talk? Enough of the small talk, the formalities yeah unfortunately. I'd like to bring Chase onto his first podcast in the podcast room for something potentially more exciting for Double Edge. Some people might be excited. That's fucked up. That is fucked up, but you think you're right.

Speaker 1:

So as you guys know Sorry go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Chase is getting his master's degree.

Speaker 1:

It just finished. Actually it did. I thought it was Friday, I knew it was this week, sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2:

Chase is getting his master's degree. It just finished?

Speaker 1:

actually it did. I thought it was Friday. I knew it was this week. Well, I get grades close on May 7th, but I took my last exam yesterday. And then my independent study research paper is all done. What did you independent study? My independent study research paper fits really well into our topic. It's all done. What did your independent study? My independent study research paper fits really well into our topic. It is improving the health and fitness of night shift law enforcement officers through sleep and exercise modalities.

Speaker 2:

It was great Any of them going to listen to it and read it.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to bring the horses to water, but I can't make them drink. That's true horses to water, but I can't make them drink. Yeah, so that's true, it was I did. I really liked it. I think it's it from everything I learned, because it was a whole semester project there's. I don't I can't say for sure that you'll get to full health as if it, you know, you were a normal person, but you can do a lot of things to make that hit way easier.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean my grandfather worked graveyard most of his life. He enjoyed it because there's more action, the brass, if you want to call them, that aren't around and I mean we got moved up in the law enforcement world as he got closer to retirement. But he worked graveyard the majority of his career and he had four kids and yeah you know, yeah stayed like successful marriage on all accounts. So I do know it's possible, but uh, you either get used to just a life of no sleep and you overcome and you still train like a freaking freak, yeah, but yeah, there is ways to optimize.

Speaker 2:

You just have to prioritize in a much different fashion.

Speaker 1:

For sure, and I think I I mean my paper only focused on the sleep and exercise portion. There was stuff that I read that pertained to like mindfulness training, so like breath work, all that, uh. And then there was stuff like obviously tons of nutrition stuff, but um, this could be a another podcast that could be a whole other. I could bring the paper and it would be a great podcast. I think it would take probably a good chunk of time.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean we have quite a few people in the gym that work, graveyard and obviously I do the program with Washoe County Sheriff's Department Correct. That could be very valuable information for their whole onslaught of people.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, I think what's nice too, is it? Doesn't uh only apply to like law enforcement?

Speaker 2:

no, anybody doing and anyone doing shift work in general right, and this is a shift work town, it is very much so, yeah, so, so, yeah. So, as you guys most, I'm sure everybody knows that you're getting your master's just finished up and with that I've always kind of known Chase was going to be pivoting in different directions as much as I was hopeful. Master's degree in exercise physiology.

Speaker 2:

I could groom him into running the gym or something along those lines and growing down the road of double edge. But other things have come up and these things have caused my jaw to hit the ground, because you got a master's degree in exercise physiology. We were talking about physical therapy school, chiropractic school, PhD becoming professor. Uh, chase research, yeah. Well why don't you go ahead and, uh, spill the beans?

Speaker 1:

I think the best phrase I could introduce this with is my father has a great uh line and he says you plan God laughs, and I think that's very, very true to the circumstance. So, as you guys know, as Derek knows, for the longest time the plan was I was going to do grad school and then turn into some kind of professional degree, whether, basically no matter what someone would have to call me doctor.

Speaker 2:

Is that like an ego massage?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a big ego massage, and I think it's it came from the stance of I genuinely love exercise, physiology, strength and conditioning physiology, like I, that is my bread and butter. It still is to this day. Like I mean, I just finished a damn master's degree in it, essentially Um. But with that being said, we talking about the sheriff's department. We have a lot of sheriffs that have come through the walls. Most, some have stayed, most have stayed good chunk.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we did. We. I would say, yeah, pretty stacked gym when it comes to law enforcement yeah, we're definitely the safest gym in town and multiple reasons. Not because I pay for my coaches to get their CCWs and stuff.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, america Fuck yeah, but I'll go all the way back to where it started.

Speaker 1:

Last June I looked on the Washoe County Sheriff's website and I was just kind of looking at all the stuff they do. Mainly it started just to get to know all of our sheriffs in the gym a lot more, cause we have so many that I was like I might as well try to get to know you guys more and have a better idea of, like, what you guys do. And I was like, oh man, they do some cool shit. Um, and it kind of prod at me just a little bit and but in my head I was like, no, I'm going to go to PT school and I can help them, like I'll go to PT school and I'll help sheriffs and I'll help you know whatever, and that'll be great. And then I still kind of was nagging at me just a little bit and I first brought up unfortunately, sorry, honey, not to my wife, I brought it up to my godfather, perry, when we were in Hawaii and I was drunk off of pina coladas.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, both of them, father Perry, when we were in Hawaii and I was drunk off of pina coladas, of course.

Speaker 2:

Both of them, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I had a couple of pina coladas which I love and I brought up to him and I was like, hey, like I've been thinking about, like the sheriff's department, I don't know why, it's just been like on my mind they do a lot of cool shit and all that stuff, like I really it's been something I'm thinking of and the best advice he gave me was, hey, keep going with school. You're not not going to finish your master's degree, which is true, I was not, not going to have done.

Speaker 1:

Correct and I really, if I'm not going to be called Dr Brady, you guys, guys which, or master chase the word that comes to mind is not that but yeah, I understand I'm. I gotta start saying master chase, not master brady, because it does sound a lot like the other one. Uh, but he was like hey, finished grad school, go through this next semester and see how you feel. And if it's hey, I still like want to be a sheriff, then look. If it's no, that was just a little flighting thing, okay. Well then, now you know.

Speaker 1:

So next semester starts rolling by and I was taking a sports supplements class, which was really interesting, and I was taking a biomechanics class, which could best be said as the most mathematics you will apply to the human body, and it fucking sucked. Still got an a, but it was lots of anger to get that a. Uh, but throughout the entire semester it probably what made it harder for school was I was spending a lot of time thinking and looking at the sheriff's department and what does sheriff's do in general? What does all that entail? How would I go to here? What would I do this? How does that work? Um, and I started to get like enamored with it. I was like this is fucking rad, um, and to bring religion into it? I don't. I don't really openly talk about religion cause I want to make sure that when people come to my group class like I don't put anything out there. It's very fun, lighthearted, we don't talk about anything serious, but um.

Speaker 2:

I have no problem getting an atheist fit Exactly.

Speaker 1:

So, like exactly. I want everyone fit atheist, Hindu, whatever but, um, as Derek knows that I'm a very religious person, a very proud Christian, Um, and so the whole semester I was like, look, dude, God, I'll do whatever you want me to fucking do. And that's how I talked to God, by the way. Uh yeah, very authentic. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Uh, my favorite phrase is Jesus is a fucking rad dude. That's the best phrase ever. Uh. But I was like look, tell me what you want me to do, I. But I was like look, tell me what you want me to do, I'll do it All. Right, I ended up here Exactly.

Speaker 1:

And so I and the more and more as the semester went on, the more and more I was like I don't really want to do this school thing because it would have been another. I would have had to take physics over summer as an undergraduate physics class, two classes.

Speaker 2:

Oh really.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, over summer, and then I would have to apply and then I'd have to do another three years of school and so that would be a total of 10 years of schooling, which would be a lot, and hardcore schooling too. And I was like I don't think I want to do this. And the more and more of that the feeling of I don't want to do school anymore, I don't want to become a physical therapist, I don't want to become Dr Brady the more and more I was like man, I think I really want to do some of the like go to the sheriff's department. So it was December 18th or whatever around that time frame and I told Jamie and I was like like hey, I've been thinking about going to the sheriff's department instead of going to pt school. And naturally, as any good wife would do, she looked up how many washoe county sheriffs die per year. Um, I think the rolling statistic is six from like 1935 total total, six total frame.

Speaker 1:

That right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, no, six total from now up and all the way back to 1935. So that instantly put her at ease, especially since a few of them were like heart attacks and stuff like that not a lot of line of action stuff, um. And she was like okay, well, let's talk about this. So we had a really amazing conversation about it and she was very supportive and she said the one thing that I think you should do is you should go talk to some sheriffs. Luckily, at this gym we have a whole host a goldmine, if you will of sheriffs to talk to. So I talked to a few of them and a few of them were really, really amazing.

Speaker 2:

And all of them are different areas too. Of them, and a few of them were really really- amazing, and they have.

Speaker 1:

They're. All of them are different areas too, correct, correct? And um, I think the three sheriffs I've talked to, uh, I talked to each of them for three hours each and I listed out all. I had, like, I think, 24 questions for each of them, because I've always been one.

Speaker 1:

If I make a decision, I want to be the most well-informed decision that I can make, especially with something that this. It's this big, you know, um. And after each conversation, I met with all of them the week before Christmas, and after each conversation, I was like this is 1 billion percent where I'm supposed to be, like, not a doubt in my head, like this is where I'm supposed to be, um. And so, uh, me and Jamie, I've typed out all the answers, because my handwriting shit, as everyone knows, uh and I was like we me and her went over as a family and we made it kind of a group decision, even though we already knew like, yeah, this is what we're doing, but we wanted, you know, make it for sure. And then, uh, after that, we, I started, we started telling people and Derek found out sooner than I was planning on him finding out Father's intuition.

Speaker 1:

Yeah father's intuition, and that was a hard day for me.

Speaker 2:

I remember. Yeah, I got tears out of you.

Speaker 1:

You did get tears out of me. That was a hard day and the reason for that not to make you know, make Derek sound as amazing as he actually is. But I think, other than people, maybe, that you coach no one really knows how critical you are for this gym, like I. Like, yes, there's a lot of people and a lot of coaches in the gym do a lot of very important things, but I've always said that, like, if you're not here, this gym is not happening.

Speaker 1:

And I think with you and me we have such a good relationship and such a strong relationship and I do love you so much that telling you that and I didn't think you were going to be upset or mad at me or mad at me but I think telling you, I didn't want you to feel like, oh, this guy's leaving me because he doesn't like me or he doesn't want to work here anymore, he doesn't want to do this. You know it's a that it was some kind of personal issue, like I didn't. I just and I think that was my biggest concern is because I am so thankful for all that you've done and how much you've supported me and how great our relationship is and how great of a leader you are, because that doesn't happen a whole bunch.

Speaker 2:

I love you like family.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And you've grown on me in a massive way over the last what five years.

Speaker 1:

Five, yeah, five. I started right back as COVID.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you're the Saturday diehard coach for a few years and then right into full time, but we have always had the conversation that I've always known in the back of my mind, unfortunately for me. One of my big lifelong goals in this place is to create a business model that sustains long-term career aspirations for people that want to do this as a career Correct and can facilitate that, because it's not very common in the gym space.

Speaker 1:

No, and I'd like to point out that that is 100% possible. I really believe it.

Speaker 2:

I do think so too, yeah, and I've seen some of you coaches really progress in a meaningful way towards a career projection. But I also understand that hiring anybody in their 20s going through lots of life change, from marriage buying a house. I'm sure you and Jamie are going to procreate some awesome little kiddos at some point.

Speaker 2:

Damn right and you're built for greatness. Not saying that that can't happen inside these walls, but I've obviously I've known that you're gonna move things um, so I mean nothing but supportive, because you are literally one of the best coaches we've ever had. Well, thank, you one of the best friends we've ever had. Well, thank you One of the best friends I've ever had, I agree, considered like a brother.

Speaker 1:

Very much so.

Speaker 2:

And I mean it's been great.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What I'm most happy about. Honestly. You're still going to be in Reno. Yeah, you're just going to become a paying member, which is a win-win for me Somehow. Yeah, you still win at the end of the day. Yeah, 100, yeah, but in all in all fairness, when chase told me the reason my jaw hit the ground is because we had been discussing physical therapy, potential ways to integrate a future pt, practice with chris and my wife and like maybe getting another building and growing like a whole medical section of double edge.

Speaker 2:

Sorry about that. There's just a lot of other conversations going on. Yeah. And then you brought up like you know it was your last semester, and I was like all right, what's the plan? Just straight up, and then you couldn't hold it in.

Speaker 1:

Nope, can't hold it in. Nope, can't lie to your dad. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he tells me he's going to be applying. It was cool because I didn't get like a phone call for background checks and blindsided by it, so he gave me a solid heads up.

Speaker 1:

I want to do you dirty.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, just it's not something I saw coming. But then, as I told you that same day, I was like you're exactly what a police department, sheriff's department needs. Thank you Like you have all the right qualities to be phenomenal in that position for our community.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you, I appreciate that as.

Speaker 2:

I like to believe people know I'm very, very supportive of our law enforcement community and first responder community community and you know when you you want human beings like chase brady to be serving our community in that capacity.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you, you know somebody that can defend, but care and um I think that's a difficult is. I mean, I grew up in Santa Cruz County, like it's. Uh, being a police officer was not something I would have ever thought. I like I didn't. I don't have the normal story of like the boy who wanted to grow up and be a police officer.

Speaker 2:

Jackson's right there right now. Oh, is he yeah.

Speaker 1:

We don't have any first responders in my family. My grandfather was in the Korean War, but he died before I was born. When I was a teenager, I thought about going to the Navy, but then I went to school instead, met Jamie, which was the best thing in my life, so it was it felt. When this happened, it was kind of like oh, this is shocking, like this is not at all how I plan, which once again goes back to you plan. God laughs.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's the most perfect example, because now, looking at all the stuff that I can do as a sheriff's department, all the stuff I plan on doing at the sheriff's department, it's like I don't know why I didn't think of this sooner, which, granted, the reason I didn't think of it sooner is because I was too busy studying sliding film at three or whatever, but it was, and now it's just now. That's all come to full circle. It's like, yeah, that was, this is the perfect profession for me and this is what I was. It feels very much so and I hate cliches, so please forgive me everyone, but it definitely feels like I was meant to do this and I'm'm very. I know it will be really hard and it will be very traumatic. I know I see a lot of traumatic things. I'm not naive to think that that's going to happen.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean, every job comes with its difficulties and there's no question that being a law enforcement officer comes with. I mean, you're dealing, your customer base is typically at the bottom, yeah, and or people on their who are living their worst day. I mean, you're dealing, your customer base is typically at the bottom.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and or people on their who are living their worst day that they could ever imagine yeah.

Speaker 2:

So I mean, but it is a service that our community needs and it needs good people. Yep and I couldn't be more supportive.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you, I'm excited for you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I'm excited too, so I'm excited for you. Yeah, I'm excited too, so let's.

Speaker 2:

I guess talk timeline Yep, he's gone next week.

Speaker 1:

No, fuck. Yeah, Timeline is this is my last year, so timeline is my last class will be December 23rd, which I believe will be 12 days of Christmas. So we'll have 12 days of Christmas. So we'll have 12 days of Christmas, and after that I'll be going to the academy in January and then I'll have like a couple weeks of no, where I won't be coaching or anything like that, but just mainly to give myself a break before I go start, you know, a very long career.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and those of you from his class that are already thinking the same thing I've talked to him about. He's going to need that little break because his time off requests are going to go right out the window. Yeah, no time off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so also for all my classes one. I'm sorry, but there's going to be quite a bit of time off this year or for the remainder of the year.

Speaker 2:

I think I have like 16 days about, which, honestly, isn't the worst thing.

Speaker 1:

You only have one more full week.

Speaker 2:

The rest are like partials.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think last year was still my worst.

Speaker 2:

I stopped counting bro. I just was grateful when you started planning it. Yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so I'm taking the next this year because Derek is such a great boss and allows me to have my time off that I'm going to be trying to go to all these like different vacations, camping trips, I know all that stuff. I pull a tag, then I'll go on a hunting trip Did you put in. Yeah, yeah yeah, gave my, we should have done a party tag. Oh yeah yeah. Yeah, gave my, we should have done a party tag. We still can. What did you put in? What's your?

Speaker 2:

point. I didn't put it in for one, but I've never. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

You could do. We could probably get you on, because Jason McDaniels has a party tag for a cow elk and then a mule deer. Yeah, so we could probably put you on that. You probably have a crap ton of points.

Speaker 2:

Okay, up to five.

Speaker 1:

Yeah so I'm just bringing everyone's average down. Yeah, so yeah, still going to, but I'll be you know, I want to make it very clear that I'm not going to change how I coach. I'm going to make sure, like everything's going to stay the same. It's just, you know, on the 23rd it will be my last day, which I'm sure will be a very hard day for me those of you keeping track it is the last day of April, yep, so we got a little bit of time. We got some time. We got some time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but this is how. For me, the guy that has to keep this ship going, this is setting up the perfect situation to be able to meet the next awesome coach. Correct, that's going to fill your shoes, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Try to Well, and that's the thing we don't know who the next coach is going to be.

Speaker 2:

No, I'm thinking through this differently than I ever have any other coach, and there's potential of hiring somebody from out of state. My heart wants to look for the person that you know is looking to make this a career.

Speaker 2:

Um, you know, jason Nijilski was one of those great examples of having his corporate life that smoked him and wanted a career change and being able to work with somebody in that mindset I guess different chapter of their life. For me, as I'm trying to still grow the gym and stabilize the gym, that's the kind of full-time coach I am looking for, and anybody listening to this. If you have coaching aspirations and this and that you know, we're open, yep, and my plan is to you interview, meet some people and, uh, find that person, potentially about three months before your last day and then or depending on how green they are yeah, depending on and just for reference, I I tend to hire the person, not the experience.

Speaker 2:

Correct, because I can, and jace can and can teach you how to coach an air squat and a clean and this and that, but I can't teach you to.

Speaker 1:

Uh, yeah, if you fucking suck, you're not gonna be a great coach.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, there's just, there's a personality trait that you know I look for you know somebody that's warm, welcoming yep, but can coach, and coach goes with, uh, holding people accountable and, um, doing that in a, in an empathetic way, if you will, yeah, so finding the right personality fit for the classes, uh, for the members of the class and then also all of us amongst us coaches like working together well and it's not every day somebody like fay comes in your life correct, yeah, yeah, it's very rare and I think with my classes, especially like they're, I love my classes to death, I mean you've been yours?

Speaker 2:

for what?

Speaker 1:

three years, three years yeah, three years yeah, and so I when, whatever, whoever we sign, depending on their greenness. Now, for instance, we have a coach that comes out of you know thin air and they're, uh, they got their l1, l2, whatever l3, and they've been coaching forever okay, I mean technically you barely have an l1 and you're I barely do you know your stuff. I know correct, but if, depending on, like, how many hours they've?

Speaker 1:

been coached right they just yeah but depending on their experience, that's going to kind of dictate how much shadowing they do for me or because I my classes. I don't want to leave them with, you know, a coach that's very, very green. I want to make sure that, whoever takes over my spot, it's a very smooth, velvet transition.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and in many ways I mean you're the extension of me in the afternoon.

Speaker 1:

Correct.

Speaker 2:

I have to leave here around 2 o'clock every day, Correct. So that person needs to be, you know, grown up, somebody I can trust mature. Yep. You know, understand that this is a real job. Yep and yeah, so I'm not going to be. Thankfully, I'm not in a rush. We're a major shift change here and we're going to find the right person and vet them out. Well, him or her. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And yeah, yeah. So anybody listening to this, if you know people and or have thoughts yourself, I mean, we're both open to having conversations, and also my brother and um yeah, so I want to get this information out. It's been eating at chase he hates keeping secrets like this for a long time and it's already been kind of trickling around. Some people know. Some people know they're just going to rip the bandaid off, and here we are. Other things, um, when it comes to. I mean, Chase helps out with the programming around here.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say we can't be done. I was having so much fun.

Speaker 2:

I want to. This is most like time we get to actually hang out and talk to each other. Members might appreciate having a shorter podcast, because the one with Jason that went an hour and 50 minutes.

Speaker 1:

I'm just saying that this is about us, this is my goodness, this is about you and me.

Speaker 2:

So we can talk about how I beat you in the opening game. You did. I didn't beat Alyssa.

Speaker 1:

No, I will say. Grad school is not good for your own personal fitness. It is a steep decline.

Speaker 2:

And, statistically speaking, not downplaying the job role that Washoe County and most deputies have, but statistically speaking I'm probably going to maintain my superiority on the open.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, man, I think I'm gonna get pretty. I think I'm. I got a little more time coming towards my way. Yeah, I hope you break the curve. I'm, I'm excited, I I'm mad, so I sent you my not, not my, not to make phenomenal improvements to my own fucking horn. But my own body was 100 and I'm 222 now 11 body fat and 115 pounds of fucking meat yeah I was so like a linebacker yeah dude, I was rad.

Speaker 2:

That was so freaking cool no, that was a great in body skin. Yeah, obviously, since we can talk about it real quick.

Speaker 1:

Yep.

Speaker 2:

Oh goodness, I just burped a little bit. That was nice. Hope you guys didn't get that in the mic. You established care with my wife, yes, and did all the blood work. And how old are you? 25. Exactly.

Speaker 1:

Soon to be 26.

Speaker 2:

But as a 25-year-old, you value and think of knowing this stuff. You hate blood draws. I hate blood draws, almost passed out again.

Speaker 1:

I pass out a lot. I want to get close to passing out. It's not a fun experience for me.

Speaker 2:

But you had a couple, you know if you want to talk about it?

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, we can talk about it. This't care about Fucking it, but we're fine.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so you have to Divulge the information.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so oh, I have to.

Speaker 2:

Well, you've already Told me all of it. Oh, but it's better coming.

Speaker 1:

I see yeah, we don't want To get sued. Yeah, my Total blood cholesterol Was high. Yeah, it was high.

Speaker 2:

My boy liked his fatty foods. I loved ribeye.

Speaker 1:

I love ribeye and mac and cheese, baby and whole milk, yeah, and whole milk.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, lots of lattes in the morning, but, yeah, my cholesterol was high. Everything else was fine my fasting, insulin, all my blood, pretty much everything else was fantastic, but my cholesterol was definitely high, which, especially since my grandfather passed away in February from a heart attack, I was like, oh shit, okay. Well, you know, I want to make sure that I'm healthy dude, and especially going into this profession I'm going to where you know what's the biggest killer seems to actually be metabolic health, based off of the research I did, which I can actually say now yeah, I was like I'm not fooling around. I want to be able to control what I can control. I can control how much I sleep if I exercise and then what I put in my mouth. I can control all of those things.

Speaker 2:

It's an interesting concept in society these days.

Speaker 1:

The things I can control yeah.

Speaker 2:

Repeat those again. I can control. You've never heard these before.

Speaker 1:

I can control what I put in my mouth. New. I can control. Never heard that before. You never heard these before. I can control what I put my mouth, I can control my exercise and I can control my sleep.

Speaker 2:

That's goal. You should write a book I.

Speaker 1:

I wrote a 10 page paper, single or double space, single, oh wow, yeah 40 references oh, wow yeah, it's hefty. Did you use ai at all? Nope, uh sorry. Yes, I did only four grammar checks.

Speaker 2:

That's good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I had it, Dude, it's fucking scary. Like I had it played around with, like I wrote down some thoughts and then I was like, hey, make up something. I just want to read what your paragraph sounds like, like, all this information I provided you and I was like, oh, that's pretty good, that's terrifying.

Speaker 2:

The doctors you see in the next like one to a hundred years from now are going to be graduating with degrees from artificial intelligence. So if you find a good healthcare provider, that was good prior to AI.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, make sure they're old.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's very interesting.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it was a very like integrity thing. I couldn't have the paper, write my whole paper. I was like because you can give it, this is off topic yeah but you can give it like your references, be like hey, write something and I'll do it freaking and you're like what the fuck? And it's actually good that's the scary part.

Speaker 2:

No, I mean I use it to write blogs for the website, because google seo needs current content yeah from a time standpoint for me. Like I put in there, you know what I want to write about and then it cranks out something pretty damn decent. I'm just like that would have taken me three days to compose, correct and with me I.

Speaker 1:

When I write professionally, my grammar and my spelling is pretty damn good. It's very different than my texting grammar and my texting spelling, where I just kind of let that fucking thing, fly General talking yeah and my general talking yeah, fair point.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I don't curse when I write professionally, guys, just in case you're wondering. But I did use it to help with that little bit. Like, hey, I need this sentence to be a little bit more concise. I'd like it to. Can we make how would you? How would you recommend it? And then I would read the recommendation, like okay, I actually like that, and then I would fit it in there, and so I. It was much more. I wanted to use it as like a tool, not as a way to write my old paper. So, but to get back on track, you can. Things you control are your sleep, your exercise and what you put in your fucking mouth.

Speaker 2:

He emphasized that one.

Speaker 1:

I did because it's true and I think, going into a profession where I need to be able to control the things I can control and I know the things that I can't control, I want to make sure I'm really fit, really healthy and I sleep really well, granted, however much sleep I get on graveyard. So knowing that I had my cholesterol is a little bit high, which, granted, in the grand scheme of things, that being high it could be a lot worse things that could happen right, and there's nothing sticking inside your arteries yet. Correct.

Speaker 2:

Your overall metabolic health is still solid, correct, so but it was still doing controllable.

Speaker 1:

And so I talked with Cassie, which, if anyone has a question on whether or not they should go see Cassie, you 100% should. And the reason for that is I hate going to the doctor Because whenever I go to the doctor, I feel like I'm just a piece of meat, I'm a little paycheck, I'm a freaking. You see me, you do whatever, and then you see me, you do whatever, and then you get me out of here and I also just hate being in the doctor's office. And my big thing was they don't ever feel like they take their time. And so with Cassie literally met for the first time for an hour. The second time, I think, was for another hour and it was just, and she went over every single damn blood marker and explained it and explained it.

Speaker 1:

And then we talked about because I was like I looked at it's like a test, like okay, here are my tests in results, now I need to test out and so what's the intervention that I'm going to do? So I've been, um, my fibers through the roof, my saturated fats down and uh, it's a man. I've started taking supplements too, um, which has been great, and it's amazing how much better. I feel like, um, I'm stronger, my putting on muscle mass, I'm losing fat, and like I'm putting on more mass in general, which I wanted to do. Um, because I think it's a lot harder to wrestle someone who's 230 versus 205 pounds. I'm at victim you are victim, weight boy, yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, uh, I wanted to put, get to it. I wanted to get to a heavier weight, but I wanted to be healthy and I'm doing a freaking great job. So, um, yeah, putting going to cassie and you know, seeing what I needed to implement, it's been fantastic and I have a lot more energy. I'm sleeping a lot better.

Speaker 2:

This is coming from a 25 year old.

Speaker 1:

Correct.

Speaker 2:

Lives a pretty healthy life in general. Correct how he was already able to use that those insights to dramatically. I mean, I've seen it, just looking at you. Thank you. I also think getting done with school has helped a little bit Well, especially now You've definitely trimmed up, got fitter and are a force to be reckoned with now. Yeah, big piece of meat, Big piece of meat, big piece of meat.

Speaker 1:

So I think, and I want to emphasize, with people who don't like going to the doctor's office because all the things I said, right, they're too fast. They don't like pay attention to you, they don't listen, and the other big thing is like you don't want to find out if there's actually something wrong with you. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

And I think that's a big one that I've always had, and I think going to Cassie and understanding like, hey, there's your control is very empowering. So I can change my food and I can make sure that I'm, and I can start taking supplements that I know will help my body, and sure as shit they are, and or at least I can feel that they are.

Speaker 1:

I have my retest in the end of June. So what'd you do? Four months? Yeah, I did like four or five because I wanted to go into programming I kind of wanted. In my head it was a perfect world where I did my test in with my blood work at the start of the programming that I make and embody. You did January. I did January, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then I was like, okay, I want to go all the way to the. Can we test out here after I've done all these things? And she's like, yeah, sure, that's great. So maybe we'll have another podcast. We'll go for my blood work again.

Speaker 2:

That'd be cool. Yeah, I mean people hear from me all the time about blood work and this and that, so it's cool to hear from somebody else, especially somebody who is looked up in the gym there's already a pinnacle of health who is using this information to optimize and be very proactive in your prevention, especially with career change.

Speaker 1:

Well, and I think too, my, my mom is phenomenal about getting her yearly checkup.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

My dad has recently gotten better, which is great. But it's like I want to like and I think some of the parenting from my dad kind of trickled over to me, like I don't want them to find something wrong, I don't want them to do this, but parenting from my dad kind of trickled over to me like I don't want them to find something wrong.

Speaker 1:

I don't want them to do this, but it's like okay, well, I want to make sure that I'm also just being generally healthy, so it's not. I'm looking at it now as more of a way like, hey, I want to make sure I'm healthy versus or and or. If there's something I can do to be healthier, it's a very much like a growth thing, find it, as opposed to them finding something wrong with me when I I think what's also cool.

Speaker 2:

Obviously I front load this with. I know she's my wife and I'm going to be her biggest fan, as you should be. She's great. You're not just looking into a bucket of charts fitting in within a box. She's looking at it with a very critical eye. Age lifestyle dependent on where can we optimize your health?

Speaker 1:

Well, and I think she also understands and I think that was a big part for me is you know, do you understand an athlete, Like, do you understand how an athlete's body might be different than a normal person's body? Yeah because a lot of physicians don't get to see folks like us?

Speaker 2:

No, and it's like that's.

Speaker 1:

I've had physicians tell me me before like, hey, you shouldn't lift heavy weights because you like if you do the Valsalva maneuver which is true, if you do the Valsalva maneuver too intensely then you can pass out. So you shouldn't do that. Well, it's like and this was told to me by a gosh frail 80-year-old nurse at the health center at UNR and I was like, all right, this is pointless. And I was like what am I doing here? She's like your heart rate's really low. It was like 55. I'm like, yeah, I work out. That was when I was working out a lot and I was like, yeah, I work out, freaking 15 hours a week. What are you expecting me to be? So I think, for me going to Cassie. I'm like, oh, yeah, I know who your husband is. I know. Like you know what, I know, you know, I know, you know, you knew, I know you know, your stuff there we go.

Speaker 2:

Words are hard sometimes and the proper lens to look through, correct? You know, when it comes to things, I still have people go to a primary care and their creatinine or bun will be off. Yep, they don't even ask if it's like, do you take creatine, stop taking creatine? Yep, it literally is a human being that hasn't kept up with any current research of anything. No, and doesn't work with an athletic population Complacency. So, just like having somebody who knows this stuff, yep, I mean I had been sending so many people from our gym and she already had a full panel where she previously worked and people would come to me do you know any primary care? I'm like, yeah, my wife Turns out I do. Then I'd always have to backdoor it and say, hey, can you take another patient when she was already? I mean she had like 2,000 patients or something.

Speaker 1:

Holy shit.

Speaker 2:

Jesus it's, and Jesus it's. Impossible one to keep up with that many, but that is the state of current medicine.

Speaker 1:

Well, I think with up increased, you know, quantity, quality typically goes down. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I mean lots of times. I mean when you're seeing 20, 30 patients in a day sometimes it in a day. Sometimes it's hard to do the level of care that she truly enjoys doing Correct. That's when we finally like. This deal here in the gym has been on my mind for a few years, and this last year, you know I'm it just made sense finally and pulled the trigger on it. That's the experience that I know other people are having with me too.

Speaker 2:

And you're the first person I brought on that's actually gone and seen her and who's willing to be transparent about their stuff.

Speaker 1:

I don't care. Open book Well, I think, also not health-related, but she also has made us be a lot tidier.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, I feel the pressure constantly, yeah, and I I feel your pressure on me yeah, like the other day when the uh, uh, what's that thing called dining room table?

Speaker 1:

yeah, dining table was all fucking messy. I was like oh, cassie's gonna be mad.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, she's uh informing me that I need to make sure that I'm keeping this place yeah, like I see those plaques that we have on there right now I'm like I don't think she's gonna like that I need to make sure that I'm keeping this place.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, like I see those plaques that we have on there right now, I'm like I don't think she's going to like that.

Speaker 2:

I figured out where to hang them, though. You can hang them right here. That's an idea. I hope to get more of them though. I built the wall, yeah, but South has that whole. Like the windows, they're lined with trophies and success stories. But they're lined with trophies and success stories and I got four.

Speaker 1:

Well, isn't it kind of like a marriage? What South's is is ours too.

Speaker 2:

I'm willing to bet. Some of those were you know.

Speaker 1:

You got to look at the fine print on some of those. It looks cool.

Speaker 2:

It's nice. It shows like history of the gym. It shows people's accomplishments and this and that, and I've just never had what do you want to call a shrine of uh accolades, if you will. And you know we got five, I think there's five, and then wes and I in our recent one that we need to add to it.

Speaker 1:

That was cool. I think you should put them right there, or? Yeah I think they look good right there. So nothing, I mean they might not be in the frame yeah but we can start with that.

Speaker 2:

yeah, get, get them off the table. Yeah. And I got to get rid of the stuff in the back. Yeah, yeah, and. I got to get all the stuff off the whiteboard because we literally don't use it. We're like back office chat right now. I'm sure members are super thrilled about this. Yeah, as you guys know we do do our best, and Chase and I are chief gym cleaners around here. We are.

Speaker 2:

We do get some help from a couple other people from time to time Correct In general. That's going to be another important role that your future coach is going to be filling. That standard with me of gym tidiness that should be part of like—. Chase does hold a pretty damn high standard. That should be the questionnaire. Do you have?

Speaker 1:

OCD yeah, because it fucking helps because those two combined yeah, powerful mean cleaning, yeah super powerful, yeah, yeah, if you can have directed focus with someone who has ocd and adhd, I can clean this whole damn gym in two hours yeah, I mean, we usually pull it off in under an hour each week yeah, that's pretty damn good, yeah, so there's that, and then restocking the fridge properly. Yeah, I love that. That's a good pastime.

Speaker 2:

That's a good pastime and everything's perfectly straight and facing the right direction. It gets me going. It's special, yeah, it's special.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that'd be when we interview people, or when you interview people, hey, do you have OCD? If it's like like, yeah, a little bit perfect, yeah, we just, we just need a little bit. Yeah, I don't need a lot.

Speaker 2:

I don't need a lot, but I need you to have some.

Speaker 1:

I need you to have some yep. What else pal?

Speaker 2:

want to talk about programming. Talk about programming. Um, after your, what do we got?

Speaker 1:

through june. Uh, yeah, I'm uh my last.

Speaker 2:

my programming ends July 3rd, yeah, so as always with programming, every time somebody changes, I get the feedback. Okay. Every time.

Speaker 1:

Are you giving them negative feedback? Oh yeah, oh really. Yeah, why, like people are too sore Not bad.

Speaker 2:

I mean, where's the Olympic lifting? Why are we doing?

Speaker 1:

so many reps. I didn't pay to come and do a five-minute bike. I mean, where's the olympic lifting? Why are we doing so many reps?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I didn't pay to come and do a five minute bike test oh one thing, oh, let's get some people going, all right yeah, so I can explain it well, I know and I just remind people that I also do the, I also and I'll bring up the catch 22 or the um, what do you want to say? A valid argument? Yeah, uh, I do follow the programming. Yep, I'm very diligent in doing group class programming.

Speaker 1:

You're the first people in person.

Speaker 2:

I consider myself to be up there. I would agree with you and uh, and like I told Ryan and Carl yesterday on the podcast, I was like there's nothing like super secret and science-y about my training. I do a little bit of bodybuilding stuff and this and that it's not a lot, but I prioritize group class. But what I've done in the last two, two and a half years outside, of TRT. Thanks for putting that in. There Is mastering consistency. Correct and listening to my body and training at intensity that matches my body that day and I've gotten really competent in that, and it's amazing, when you're consistent, what happens?

Speaker 2:

that is the number one thing with any fitness program. If you're not consistent, it doesn't matter. If the smartest dude in the world is riding your ship for you, he ain't going to do a damn thing, nope. So consistency is key when I think when I write the program.

Speaker 1:

I looked at when I wrote this program because we had that, I mean, we did the newsletter for it and all that stuff. But when I was writing this program, the main thing that I was thinking of, like, okay, what would make you the fittest for life? Right, and also, what do I think might be different than we're used to doing, right. And so when I wrote the nine tests right, because we had the five Metcons I'm just going to tell you that I do consider myself one of the fitter people.

Speaker 1:

I was fucked up after that yeah, it's fucking hard, I did it I full, sent each one, yeah, as you were supposed to, and so my, when I made the nine tests.

Speaker 2:

I got a vacation plan for the retest, though.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's not good you can do it a week earlier with me, though.

Speaker 2:

That's fine yeah, there's probably kids, I think are sick that week oh, they're sick oh yeah I don't want to retest the five minute bike, bro.

Speaker 1:

That hurts so bad that one was weird for me. I was expecting my legs to blow up and I don't know. I don't remember I had it. When I tested the workouts they were kind of got jumbled up or whatever. Um, with had something going on. I had like a life thing going on that I messed it up. I still got them all done, um, but my like, uh, like lats and intercostal started cramping. You're pushing, pulling. It was wild yeah and I was. I was like couldn't breathe and I was like this is stupid.

Speaker 2:

I want my legs to be on fire right now I don't want my I don't care about my shoes off after that. Yeah, I don't do that too often. No, you, you don't. I was just swollen, yeah, yeah, super swollen.

Speaker 1:

So when I made the nine tests, so my thought process, I went through all of them. I went through, um, like, hey, what would be really functional for life, Plus, what do we not do? And I was like, okay, well, two mile run to start, right, everyone's like, oh, we could just run a mile. Well, you can run two miles, you can run a mile. And the two mile time frame is anywhere from that like for the faster people to get.

Speaker 1:

Like what code got like 12, 35, 12, 50 or something like that, whatever sorry, cody, if I'm messing that up to where we had, like people in like the mid 20s, so we had that longer time domain for that two-mile run, which is what I wanted, because I wanted to pair that with the five-minute max cal assault bike and that little combination shows me okay, can this person go really hard for a more shorter period of time? Just be fucking lucky that it wasn't a one-minute max cal assault bike. You want to try, say, pain, destruction, destruction and tears. The one minute is that is the fucking worst. Um, but I want to be like, okay, can you go really hard for five minutes? All right, that's pretty good. Now can you run two miles without stopping, and can you run it fast, all right. Well, if you can do both those things, you're probably pretty darn metabolically fit no, you're getting the anaerobic, maxing it out and you're maxing out the aerobic.

Speaker 1:

Correct. And then now with the Metcons, I wanted to go. The Metcons were also based off of time. I had to make sure that all the times were correct. I wanted to have something that was a little bit shorter, something a little bit longer, a couple in the middle.

Speaker 2:

One that fucked your brain up yeah, tarzan's coconuts the other one.

Speaker 1:

No, the gut rearrangement oh yeah, that one sucked, that hurt, that one hurt and I suck at front squats in the middle of a workout with other stuff especially those two combos yeah, dude, it was rough, that was miserable um, I've not I mean yeah, anyway, uh, but I was okay.

Speaker 1:

Can we do all those things? And when I looked at all the tests, I also there's a CrossFit programming is MGW. So M stands for monostructural movements, g stands for gymnastics I'm just talking for the general audience and then W stands for weightlifting and I want to make sure that they're equal parts gymnastics, equal parts weightlifting, equal parts monostructural movements. There was that way in my head. If I was to give you guys nine tests where, if you do really well and you test this on a yearly basis, or at the beginning of the test in and at the test out, you guys got a holistic area of increasing fitness In that testing, which I like was max capacity, strict pull-ups and dips.

Speaker 1:

Correct, because that's also.

Speaker 2:

If it had been push-ups. Dips is an easier thing to control.

Speaker 1:

I think I think dips too is. That goes back. The reason I chose dips over push-ups was we never do dips and we do a lot of horizontal pushing, we do a lot of vertical pushing, but we don't do a lot of downward vertical pushing, and that in itself is like, if you want to put a functionality to it, all right, well, I need to push myself over a fence or I need to push myself over a wall, or I need to do or I need to push myself, get out of bed.

Speaker 1:

I need to get out of bed right, Get up out of a chair. It's a lot of things we didn't do. And I don't have to mention balancing out the shoulders. Correct. We don't want to always just be doing this. We have a deadlift max, a back squat max, push press max, and then we have that clean complex and I chose not to do snatches because I just finished snatching too.

Speaker 1:

We just finished snatching and I love snatches, but I think a lot of members had a hard time with like doing snatch strength work and so I was like, all right, well, I won't, we won't do snatches then, but I will put snatches in group class. And I think one of the complaints that I kind of have seen is like, hey, there's not a lot of barbell cycling, as you just kind of also told me. So you told me and now I'm kind of hearing it a little bit too, and I would agree with you there's not. And the reason for that is on Jacob's programming we were prepping for the Open there was a lot of barbell cycling. When, in my program, I want to be able to expose you guys to different ways of lifting weights. You have your raw strength test, you have your deadlift, your push press, your back squat. Those will all get you strong as shit, right. So we're getting that barbell in there. You guys will get strong. And we have also the max clean sorry, we also have the max clean complex, which will all get you strong.

Speaker 1:

I want to make sure that you guys can also get strong in various ways, moving your body in different ways, like with dumbbells, with sandbags with, you know, whatever it is. And I think once the reason for that not, I think I know the reason for that is if we're not challenging the muscle tissues, they're not going to change. So if can you, you know, can you clean? So if can you, you know, can you clean? You know the 75 pound dumbbells, right, can you? Are you comfortable with that? Can you do goblet squats with the 125? Can you do? Can you do kettlebell deadlifts? How does your? Does your back round over? Right, and I think a lot of what's going to I think, hopefully happen is, at the end, the people who come the most. They're going to see oh shit, dude Like.

Speaker 1:

I got really strong or I got really fit. So if you have some complaints about the workouts or anything like that, like, please let me know. I'd love to be, because my biggest thing is if someone has a question or a complaint or whatever about the workouts, I'm very open. You can talk to me, and I think a lot of what usually happens if whenever I hear complaints is they don't know why and I have. Whenever I program, whether it be for myself or for the gym, it is I make sure there is a why. I don't like doing stuff that doesn't have purpose. It has to have a purpose, yeah, and the overarching purpose of Double make.

Speaker 2:

It has to have a purpose. So yeah, no overarching purpose of double-edged fitness is to get you generally physically prepared for everything lots of everything yeah you know, and um, being able to one be metabolically healthy, correct, you know?

Speaker 2:

metabolic health is driven by fitness and work capacity and then being capable of doing stuff, yep, like. You want to go ski cool. I'm going to hike up mount rose cool, correct? You want to go take third place at tactical games cool, but it was a testament, like wes and I did really really well, especially on the fitness side of that.

Speaker 1:

Yes, you know, we're average you know, know, pran spray, but that's okay.

Speaker 2:

Let's be honest below average on shooting. But the fitness side, we just do group class for the most part. Yeah, well, and that's great. It's like we're able to show up and compete.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think a lot of people, too, always get one of the things Like whenever I coach, too, all I think a lot of people, too, always get one of the things like whenever, when I coach to all my stuff is like my, my reasoning for a lot of things goes back to the two Is it going to functionally serve you? So, like my, my, we can go into belts. Right now, like for my classes, no one's allowed to wear a belt at 90% or below, so that's funny.

Speaker 2:

You bring that up because I'm anti belt. Yeah, I quit using a belt after I hurt my back. Yep, for a couple reasons, like I want to feel my body in all these positions correct and I don't want to rely on a crutch when I'm moving correct and uh, plus I not everybody uses a belt correctly. No, it's, I'm not gonna put my hand up in your guts and make sure you're yeah, doing it right.

Speaker 1:

It's wrong, but I'm training, I'm training for everyday life, correct.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to put my hand up in your guts and make sure you're doing it right. Yeah, that's wrong. But I'm training for everyday life, correct. I'm not trying to. It has its place in Olympic lifting and powerlifting. When you're pushing these, maximal lifts often, but all of us are training for everyday life. And somebody was asking me about my stomach. I think one of the reasons I have bulky abs is because I don't lift with a belt, nope, like I rely on my stomach to stabilize all my lifting.

Speaker 1:

Well, and I think my argument always goes back to all right, say someone falls. Say it's your mom, your mom weighs 150 pounds. You're going to be able to go get your belt. Yeah, Go get your belt Really. Say your dad falls, Okay, your dad weighs 200 pounds, You're going to go get your belt Really.

Speaker 1:

And it's like no, you're not going to go do it. And what really could be bad is if you fucking hurt your back while you're trying to help someone. Right, I got two hurt people. And now we got two people and then freaking A. It's just going to get worse and worse and worse. So I am all for the belt at 90% and above, because at that point we've done so much training with your abdominals and your core. Your core has gotten strong and it's gotten much better at recruiting more fibers to produce a task that now, when you put a belt on one, your core is already super freaking strong. Now you get a little bit more. You know it's called IAPap. You're going to increase your intra-abdominal pressure even more. That is going to be freaking bonkers. You're going to have a pr like crazy.

Speaker 2:

No, and a couple times I do put it on like I'd notice a huge difference, but my prs are typically 90 efforts. I don't even push the 100% efforts anymore. Yeah, but yeah. So I love that Programming. I mean, that's the mindset of the gym, but it's like what's applicable to everyday life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, I think also when I program I like to have like a lot of variety too, and so I don't want to like. For instance, when I program, so like I guess the general audience knows, I have two pieces of paper in front of me and they're on a four-week cycle, and the first piece of paper has a list of monostructural movements. It has a list of barbell movements, it has a list of gymnastic movements, a list of odd object movements, like your sandbags, your kettlebells, your stuff like that GHDs, and then it has a list of dumbbell movements and when I program I give each movement based off of kind of what I see as necessary an amount of check marks.

Speaker 1:

And then when it's all checked off or when I see, oh, I haven't done this in a while, then that goes into programming. So that way you guys are getting a lot of variety. And now the other sheet of paper tells me okay, it has long duration, short duration, moderate duration, and then it has like for times, tough, so like rounds and chippers and stuff like that. And then we have EMOMs and AMRAPs and repeating AMRAPs. And then I go through all that and I make sure, okay, we've done a lot of EMOMs, we've done a lot of AMRAPs this four-week cycle, so I'm going to do more of this. Or we did a lot of that last week, so we're going to do more of this. So that way you get a lot more of variety when I'm programming.

Speaker 2:

Which I enjoy. Yeah, I enjoy different workouts, bro. I tell people whoever's riding the workouts, you're going to hear from me if I'm not enjoying it and I don't think I'm going to be there. Don't think either you or my brother ever hear from me.

Speaker 2:

I just show up, I coach it. I meet people where they're at with the programming Correct. Like if I have a person in my class that has no reason to snatch and they have a messed up shoulder, I'm not forcing snatching, that's just me coaching my class appropriately. You've got to provide a modification for what's best. Yes, and the one caveat generally in CrossFit you're doing a lot of full-body stuff. There's some days that aren't full-body, if you will, but if you look at the week, I'm hitting everything Correct. Those folks that typically can only get in three, maybe four days a week if they're lucky, a uh voice that you know. Showing up to a workout, that's you know. Just one thing sucks for them, um, and obviously I follow that up like you know, our goal welded is written as a monday through friday program.

Speaker 2:

That's why there's lean sprinkled in there, which is typically full. I follow that up and, like you know, our goal Welded is written as a Monday through Friday program. That's why there's lean sprinkled in there, which is typically full body stuff, yeah, or something to compliment you know and so forth. And it's just like I also remind folks, writing a group class oriented general physical preparedness program is not going to equally satisfy the needs of everybody perfectly.

Speaker 1:

Correct, like when I program for Ryan like she does group class a hundred percent. She does group class but it's also she has her own you know needs physically that we have to do like you know, like running or whatever it might. May be that she needs to do. So group class is going to get everyone fit, no matter what, but it's not gonna be perfect for every single person.

Speaker 2:

No, and one thing that I do like to believe my classes know, because I do this with individuals in my classes, but any of the coaches here, like I work with people. Like, if you can only come in twice that week, there's a chance you come and talk to me about it. I'm gonna give you a different workout or adjust your day, yeah, to give you the best bang for your buck of time that you can invest in training that week. Yeah, like, if you tell me because you got this work thing and you got to travel and on the board that day for you know, five minute bike test, just throw that one out there yeah I am more than happy and have done okay, you're gonna do this, but then you're gonna roll right into this.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you're alive still, if you're alive still, yeah, and um, I've done that multiple times for people. Uh, that's just building that relationship with your coach and your class and that's something I mean I like to believe all of us coaches do. I'm willing to do um to maximize that person's time.

Speaker 2:

That doesn't mean you're going to believe all of us coaches do and are willing to do To maximize that person's time. That doesn't mean you're going to get a custom-written program every single day, no. But when things come up injuries, modifications, I mean all this stuff it comes down to a relationship with you and your coach and to maximize your time in the gym the best possible through a group setting. Yep, I agree with you. So just keep that stuff in mind, you guys. As Chase moves into his new ventures and stuff, I do like having two people involved in programming, because it does bring fresh ideas and perspectives from both gyms. Yep, and the person that's going to be stepping in Chase's place on this is going to be me.

Speaker 1:

Oh, shit, Good luck team. Yeah. You guys have been doing single leg toes bar into Turkish get-ups and funny shoulder stuff. Yeah, can you handstand, walk with one hand?

Speaker 2:

I can't handstand walk on two hands.

Speaker 1:

That's also true.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so we got that, but I don't. I typically work on the other side of this business and that is my strength in keeping Double Edge, you know, going Alive. I also, I think I have an aging perspective with training, I would agree that I can bring to the table and I'm going to. I've had enough questions from folks over the last year that I'm going to, you know, start helping out more in the programming department and, um, just some spring, some other flavor ideas and keep things going. So, uh, there will still be my brother and then when, as chase is, you know, he's getting all this education.

Speaker 1:

Fitness science is super excited about being part of programming you can, still, you can, you still can have me for consultations yeah, you're gonna be in the academy, so you're basically useless to me for like three months, and then yeah but after that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, after that. I know, pal, I know, but try to put the members at ease. And then what's cool about that also is, if you hate it and you voice your concerns, those come to me anyway, so it just comes right to me. There's no middleman now. It's just straight to you no middleman, so yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think you're going to do a great job.

Speaker 2:

Well, I've been putting quite a bit of thought into both gyms, coaching at both gyms, seeing the members of both gyms. Well that's one benefit of you coaching at both gyms. I am the only coach that consistently or Tammy, tammy yeah. But consistently coaches at both gyms and sees things. Yeah, they see things and, yeah, constantly trying to improve, evolve our product. I know the community is one of the biggest benefits of Double Edge Fitness, but I also know everybody's here to get fit and programming drives fitness. Yeah, as long as you're consistent.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, also, we're going to be using our programming for the RTO.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm solely relying on group class for the RTO at this point. I'm solely relying on group class for the RTO at this point.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to start running on the weekends and I don't know when my short shorts are going to get here.

Speaker 2:

Well, either way, I'll get a good long nap in while you're going up Dog Valley.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm going to have such a great time Hopefully.

Speaker 2:

I make it. Take your cell phone that works on satellite now. Yeah Well, everybody, lots of things to discuss today. Like I said, Chase said this is his last year, but we got the rest of the year.

Speaker 1:

We do, we're going to live it up.

Speaker 2:

Well, we're really looking forward to. You know, if a coach didn't quit, I wouldn't have Chase Correct. I try to look at this stuff now with uh, not with a lost heart but, with an opportunity heart like the next, next uh great person to come in and help provide influence and uh value to people's lives is. It's an, it's an opportunity for them, as Chase moves into an area to provide, I mean immense value to our community. So yeah right on.

Speaker 1:

Well, thank you for everything you've done for me and I'm excited for at least one more year full of fun and partying Yep. And then well the Open's going to be when you're in the Academy.

Speaker 2:

I still got a garage gym. Well, I know, but still that means I got one more year.

Speaker 1:

That probably I could squeeze out a W. I don't know. I think I can get pretty fucking fit until January.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm just in my brain, I'm building that up. Oh, okay, you're mentally praying for it now.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, all right, that sounds good, great.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was just me versus you. But then Alyssa came in. Yeah, Fucked everything up. She fucked it.

Speaker 1:

God, Jesus See, the problem is that I needed more.

Speaker 2:

You kind of get screwed in the open.

Speaker 1:

I do get screwed in the open Semifinals I would have fucked all y'all up Yep, 100%, yep, open. And maybe it's my own fault. I should be better at burpees, even though I think I'm pretty darn good. But you take Alyssa, who's like two inches tall, and she just goes ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, which, granted, I want to put this fucking out here. She only beat me by, I think, like five reps.

Speaker 2:

I mean I gave her that mulligan on the row workout so that's how she got me in the open.

Speaker 1:

That was nice of you. It was fair. It was a vote too, wasn't it? Yeah, it was fair, she's fit, dude, yeah, she's fit.

Speaker 2:

She's fit dude, yeah, she's fit, she's fit. Then I got fate to contend with now. Yeah, you can have that one. That's exhausting, she's insanely. I'm not saying human, I don't know how. And then the accent she just she's so nice and sweet just slaughters. You I know in niceness you're doing so good.

Speaker 1:

You're fucking eight. What was the?

Speaker 2:

one workout was the coconut one, the ski, yeah, tarzan's coconuts. I did it with her and I'm like I'm, you know, strict handstand push-ups for me is me. Doing them now is a huge milestone. Yeah, she's just cheering me on laughing, and not many women keep up with me. Nope, no, women keep up with me on machine.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and then there comes fey yeah, it's just so nice, so nice I.

Speaker 1:

So nice I haven't I. The first time I worked out with her, it was. We had a great time, I loved it I. She taught you how to do sandbags, didn't she? She did, she did. Well, she didn't teach me how, but she laughed me and I was like, dude, you're so fast at those, which, I want. To be fair, I haven't been lapped in a workout and I cannot remember how long that does not happen and I love humble pie. Humble pie always tastes good to me, and I got some fucking UK I don't know what kind of pie they have over there Trumpets or something, Something with haggis or whatever Served up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, dude, she freaking served it up, but she was so nice. She's like you're doing great, chase, just keep going, and I'm like I want to die.

Speaker 2:

So Chase or Faye was a great find, but she's filling the gap for Jess's evolution in her career Correct, Everybody already knows that. So this is the next change. Yeah, yeah, we're in search.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I got to get my kids All right. I'm going to do some lunges and restock the fridge.

Speaker 2:

Oh shit, okay, I'll restock the fridge, all right, everybody, see you guys, peace.