Double Edge Fitness
This podcast is dedicated to showcasing to our members and any of our listeners who are interested in how this northern Nevada gym operates. Our mission is to inspire others to bring health and wellness home to truly make a difference in the household with the ultimate goal of making Reno the healthiest city in the country.In this podcast, we will be talking about things that are on our mind and answering questions from our members and our listeners to provide a unique listening experience.
Double Edge Fitness
CrossFit Chaos & Champagne: Hilarious Gym Banter with Sarah, Jenny Drew and Emma!
What happens when you put three passionate CrossFit women and their coach in a room with champagne, a naked doll, and a microphone? Pure fitness magic.
This episode features Sarah, Jenny, and Emma – three women spanning different decades of life who share a common love for CrossFit and the Double Edge community. Their candid conversation reveals the transformative journeys that brought them from various athletic backgrounds into the CrossFit fold, challenging preconceptions and building strength along the way.
The group dives deep into topics rarely discussed with such honesty in the fitness world. They tackle the persistent myth that women will "get bulky" from strength training, with coach Derek explaining why this fear is largely unfounded and how strength becomes increasingly vital as we age. The conversation shifts to the comparison trap perpetuated by social media, as they discuss the harmful effects of measuring oneself against often misleading online fitness personalities.
What truly shines through is the power of community. These athletes describe how their gym relationships have become foundational to their lives, extending far beyond workout hours. Their stories illustrate how the right fitness environment creates not just physical strength but mental resilience that carries into every aspect of life.
Whether you're a seasoned CrossFitter or someone curious about starting a fitness journey, this episode offers refreshing perspectives on creating sustainable fitness habits. The group shares practical advice about nutrition, recovery, and finding joy in movement – all while maintaining the perfect balance of expertise and authentic conversation.
Ready to challenge your fitness assumptions and be inspired by real talk from real athletes? Listen now, and discover why CrossFit creates such passionate communities of strong, supportive individuals who lift each other up in more ways than one.
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we have him. He's actually working out, see.
Speaker 2:That really is Pecker.
Speaker 1:Okay, you get Cody.
Speaker 3:Are you ready, guys?
Speaker 1:This looks like Derek. I feel like Cody. He's kind of dirty though, Sorry. True life of a CrossFitter. Look at my purse.
Speaker 2:His wiener's not hanging out.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh, jenny, I love you. Everything's fine. He's doing a muscle up, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:He's literally holding himself up by his wiener, but his wiener is the smallest thing I've ever seen.
Speaker 1:It might break off tonight, literally.
Speaker 4:He might be in the ER for a broken wiener.
Speaker 2:Proportionally, it ain't bad.
Speaker 1:It is kind of bad, I don't know, I don't know what they say about black people.
Speaker 4:Are we putting this on?
Speaker 2:Yeah, mic up.
Speaker 1:We gotta crack this first, so we're not like degenerates and pop it. Fun fact about me I'm kind of actually scared to pop champagne. I'm actually kind of like fun fact about me, I'm kind of actually scared to pop champagne.
Speaker 2:I got an embarrassing story so I was given a bottle of Dom Perignon by Vicki and Arthur when we opened this place. I didn't know it had to be chilled, so excited, Whole bottle gone.
Speaker 1:Oh no.
Speaker 5:All over the roof of this room. It like like exploded.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I guess if it's not chilled like, everything comes out.
Speaker 5:Oh my gosh, who wants to open this? I didn't know that. Who wants to do that? Is it chilled?
Speaker 1:Yep, one of their buffs. Oh yeah, got a solo cup, is that?
Speaker 5:fine Classy.
Speaker 1:We're classy.
Speaker 5:I actually have a Dom.
Speaker 1:Perignon story as well, derek. So I was serving at the melting pot and it was I think it was 2000.
Speaker 4:Look at that.
Speaker 1:Nice. Well, that was good.
Speaker 2:Nice work, bud, oh do you want some lemonade element tea, yeah.
Speaker 1:Ooh, I saw the new flavor came out. Please, ooh, there's a lemon.
Speaker 2:Oh, thanks, give me your cup, give me your cup.
Speaker 5:Okay, thanks, Jenny.
Speaker 2:There's no cooties in here, but you're like my big sister, so it doesn't matter.
Speaker 5:I'll take it. We wanted to try it. Anyway, I can be fancy. You might have some BCAs, some protein powders, some steroids in there.
Speaker 2:Steroids, I'll take it, thank, you All right, emma, pull it to your face, to my face, to your face. You can Thank you All right.
Speaker 3:And my bullet to your face, to my face.
Speaker 2:To your face.
Speaker 3:Okay, testing or you can tilt it Testing, testing. I have our notes up too.
Speaker 2:Get a little aggressive with it. Use those crossfit muscles.
Speaker 4:There we go, there we go there, you go, wow Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm in now.
Speaker 1:Holy moly, there you are.
Speaker 2:Oh good, it's like went in there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, get comfortable and talk, yeah, and I need to make sure I'm getting you through the machine. All right, jenny how are you doing today? I'm doing fabulous. You're doing fabulous Talking.
Speaker 2:Yeah, can you guys, hear me, yeah, I mean.
Speaker 5:I hate my own voice. I do too. Can you hear me? I'm stuck in my own, it's very smooth.
Speaker 3:I like everybody's voice right now. Oh really, I don't like mine.
Speaker 5:Nobody has ever said they like my voice. So that's good. I wish I had like a raspy voice, Emma talk.
Speaker 3:Hello, my name is Emma.
Speaker 2:Did you come and work out today?
Speaker 3:I ran RTO prep baby.
Speaker 5:Emma, I feel like you should be a podcaster. Your voice is really good on this.
Speaker 1:It's really nice.
Speaker 2:Arthur told me today I have a face for radio and that took me a minute to click.
Speaker 5:Thanks, Emma, no a face for radio. Not a podcast. Oh wow, that went right over. Blonde hair's popping Did you give him one of these.
Speaker 4:I was like yeah, absolutely, Derek.
Speaker 3:You're doing a face for you.
Speaker 2:Thanks Arthur.
Speaker 1:It legitimately took me a second.
Speaker 2:I'm like there's no voice on or no audio or video, so I'm not pretty. Yeah, it's messed up.
Speaker 5:I disagree.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank you yeah.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 5:Hey, don't feed his ego.
Speaker 1:That's right, ego. It's too early in the podcast all right double-edged people.
Speaker 2:We got a special guest today. Jenny drew emma briggs, hello, hello, sarah grant and I don't know where this is gonna go, meaning none of us do I have some ideas I got talking points, for, if you know, we just sit here and stare at each other and don't really know what to say.
Speaker 1:I find that's not going to be a problem. I don't think with this group that's going to happen.
Speaker 2:Jenny was kind enough. Apparently this is going to be the first drinking podcast of Double Edge sorry, it's called Balance.
Speaker 1:I had a protein shake. If you want to see what's in my purse, I also have beef jerky.
Speaker 2:It's Friday, it's a little what's in my Purse.
Speaker 1:What's in my Purse?
Speaker 2:Jenny brought some naked dude Legitimately Peter.
Speaker 1:Do you put him in the cup, nah, he hangs by his you know what, in case the children are watching. Sorry.
Speaker 2:Claire, the podcast is rated explicit.
Speaker 5:Just because Chris McBroom might be in here.
Speaker 2:I want to get him on here Dropping.
Speaker 5:F-bombs, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know, I'm not exactly not guilty of cursing.
Speaker 3:Sorry, Sarah.
Speaker 2:If I get a little passionate.
Speaker 1:Thank you, To each their own. You guys are good. How's the element? It's good. We have to cheers. I was telling Sarah today I want to mix the raspberry with the lemonade and do like half-half packet and then you would have two raspberry lemonades. Yeah, that sounds good. I think that would be solid.
Speaker 4:Try it with vodka.
Speaker 1:I mean duh yeah. There's a bear shit in the woods there we go.
Speaker 5:Sorry, I'm not strong, there's another one, one, a popsicle, ooh like strawberry lemonade popsicles oh those are fun, alright cheers
Speaker 1:cheers, cheers to 6am, yay, 6am we did.
Speaker 5:Chad or not Chad girls rule, let's go. I lost my little dude.
Speaker 2:Oh no, I feel like this needs to be a podcast prop so I can sit here and like stare at him.
Speaker 1:You could have him as a parting gift, or do you want this guy? I feel like he's. We can decide at the end of the podcast. We have time. Hopefully he can sustain his muscle up all the time.
Speaker 2:I mean as long as the Viagra doesn't wear off.
Speaker 1:I think you're good, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2:I think he needs Viagra, he's a couple years older right Give him a break.
Speaker 4:Cassie, we need you.
Speaker 1:He's just staring right into my soul. Okay, sorry, thank you. Oh wait, do you like booties? Oh my gosh, we're off to a great start.
Speaker 2:That's great. We're off to a great start. So tenure here. Sarah, you've been here the longest. You got a banner. Let's go Banner 2,000 visits. You starred August 2014.
Speaker 5:Okay, yep, I remember you were in here with your youngest. Oh, yeah, riker, we got pictures of you with him, Thomas. Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like a Saturday class or something.
Speaker 5:Okay, that's crazy, that's so crazy. And Jacob, let's see. I would go the 10 am with Jacob because then I could drop off all the kids and then Riker was with me. Yep Mom life. Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 2:Now my kids are at the same school as Riker.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's so cool, I love it, and then Jenny next February 2016.
Speaker 1:Yeah, wait, I don't know if that's possible because I moved to Reno in April of 2016.
Speaker 2:But I mean I'll take the extra two months. It could be wrong, because it's when you created a profile. You could have created a profile.
Speaker 1:I hit up Joel because we didn't go to high school together. But I knew him and I was like I'm going to need a place to work out and he was like this is the place he got me all set up.
Speaker 4:Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:It was my first coach 9 am.
Speaker 1:It was such a different vibe, but it was awesome and I knew I wanted to be here. Yeah for sure. Did you do crossfit before that? Um, not like crazy. Like, have you heard of back? Um, what are they back country? Yeah, so me and ron went there for maybe like four months before we moved home, but they had like two teams go to the game. So we're like this is kind of a scary place yeah they they're super legit.
Speaker 5:Is that in Denver?
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, littleton, yeah yeah, we've been there, I've been there I mean the gym was in a huge warehouse Probably had like 2,000 members plus. That's a big place, so you, never knew who was going to be in your class. It wasn't like our vibe, yeah, but I mean it was cool and then Emma, you started January 2019.
Speaker 2:Fun.
Speaker 5:Oh yay, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:And a handful of people thought you and your dad were an item. Still do, still do as of last week.
Speaker 3:Oh my gosh, Freaking Travis.
Speaker 5:Do you get tired of?
Speaker 3:that I mean it's weird, but I guess I get it. Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I mean nowadays it doesn't seem to be abnormal for that, as abnormal for couples to have a pretty big spread With, like the sugar daddy scenarios out there.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's fair.
Speaker 2:So y'all have been here for quite a while yeah.
Speaker 5:That's awesome, you're 45 years old You're 40 years old.
Speaker 2:You're 30 years old.
Speaker 4:Yeah, got quite a spread I like it and age demographics, if you will.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, it's pretty cool. So, um, since I found out, you guys are basically interrogating me and you have questions. You want to kick it off what you got let's go.
Speaker 1:Oh, all right, we got. I mean, I got.
Speaker 2:I got all kinds of questions. Whatever we want go wherever we want to go with this.
Speaker 1:I mean, the world is our oyster. Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 2:Typically there's the standards. What brought you into the gym? What do you like most about?
Speaker 3:the gym.
Speaker 2:Those are the standard, I guess, business questions. But the goal is to hear you guys talk stories, lives. We could start there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 5:You kick it off veteran. Okay, what's the question? How did? How did I get here? Yeah, all right, let's see. I was into triathlons and doing kickboxing. I was a kickboxing instructor at one point I did not know. This isn't that funny, and I also was a spin instructor at one point that doesn't totally surprise me no, um, but yeah, I got plantar fasciitis because I was running and running, running to kickboxing, running home doing what I like you'd run from your house to kickboxing class and that's active coaching, like you're doing everything with everybody.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and so I started to get plantar fasciitis and then a lot of people would just tell me oh, you just got to run through it and I tried to and I could not like function.
Speaker 2:You're like the worst person to tell that to no, because you're going to try until you break.
Speaker 5:Yes and so and I had little kids like little babies and stuff. So I was, and T had started with Double Edge, maybe a few months before me.
Speaker 2:I remember TRX class it was Sabrina.
Speaker 5:And so he was like you should just come try CrossFit. I was like I will never do CrossFit, Like that's just not my jam. I'm a runner. And then I totally was like, oh, I'll just try a couple classes, so I would come here and then I would go to a kickboxing class right after teach or do.
Speaker 5:I would do it. See, I haven't changed one single bit. And then, all of a sudden, I just started drinking the Kool-Aid and I was like, wow, I love it. I love it so much, so that's kind of how I got here.
Speaker 2:So here, often from, I guess, people that are really partial running. They're scared of CrossFit, intimidated by CrossFit. That seemed not to be the case for you.
Speaker 5:Well, I I just was scared. Yeah, for sure. And I grew up as a dancer, so I never lifted a barbell in my whole life. The only time I ever lifted weights was like a boot class for kickboxing, so it was like Like a two pounder.
Speaker 5:Yeah, and like a 12 pound, like weighted ball. So I never picked up a barbell and I remember being behind Becky Marvin, yeah, and she was doing power cleans and I was like, oh my gosh, I could barely do it with, like you know, a 55 pound barbell. Um, it was very intimidating, very intimidating. I I sucked at everything. Sorry, I'm not laughing to ask you.
Speaker 4:It was funny. I was like oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Cheers to that, Sarah. Cheers to you, bud. You've come a long way, Thank you.
Speaker 2:I mean, I wasn't obviously coaching classes at all back then. Yeah, I didn't see like your early days of CrossFit.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's pretty fascinating, seeing as how I'm your main coach now in. Miami how far that has come.
Speaker 5:I guess that's true, because sometimes I don't reflect on that at all.
Speaker 2:Like not to boost your ego, but you move pretty damn well.
Speaker 4:You move weight pretty damn well.
Speaker 5:Like you do, really really good. Thanks, Derek.
Speaker 2:And to think that there was a time where you were terrified of all this. Now you're like staple in the gym, Like you could probably coach a class. I don't know if much work would get done.
Speaker 4:It'd be very chatty for the whole hour. That is a bucket list of mine.
Speaker 5:The warm up might be missed, jenny and I.
Speaker 2:Oh, we got five minutes left oh shoot.
Speaker 5:Does anyone stay till 12? I just feel like Jenny and I could definitely sub in at the last minute if we ever had to. All right, yeah.
Speaker 2:I just have to roll the dice one day and see what happens, yeah.
Speaker 5:We would be great, but you know it, you genuinely know CrossFit now.
Speaker 2:Thank you you know all the stuff. Yeah, and it's awesome.
Speaker 5:Thank you so much. Yeah, I can't even imagine life without doing CrossFit. I love how I feel stronger and the community I feel like we have met. I have met so many amazing people in my life.
Speaker 2:I mean, I don't know. I know you have a lot of friends outside the gym. You're a very social human being.
Speaker 5:I'm social yeah.
Speaker 2:But it does seem like a lot of your diehard friends met inside the gym.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's pretty cool I mean you and Kara.
Speaker 2:Now.
Speaker 5:I know.
Speaker 1:And Dawn Travel across the country. I know.
Speaker 2:See each other yeah. It's not often you see, relationships stick when somebody moves like that.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's true, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:And it started here.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it did so. Thank you, derek, for all of it, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, when it comes to the community part, you guys are all the ones that build it.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I just kind of nurture it if you will Make sure the lights turn on. It's always important Stuff like that. You're more than a body, though. Yeah, you are the backbone, I agree. Yeah, well, I try, but it is, without a doubt, the people that's drawn into here. It's what keeps me going. If I didn't coach, if I didn't switch over and stop like writing a desk and all that crap, I don't think I would have made it through, covid, yeah to be.
Speaker 2:Like it was those relationships with everybody coaching everybody, building that part of because before all this I just did personal training. It was just one-on-one. That was my life and that's what built the gym essentially. But getting into the group experience and coaching more group classes, those shitty years many years ago, that that's what bought me into fighting like hell for this place yeah, that's cool.
Speaker 1:So, and I think you know how many members literally will ride and die for you guys. You know, like you guys are your family, now you're, you're actually stuck with us, so which?
Speaker 3:is really a lifetime membership shoot still for sale.
Speaker 2:Just it just went up a little bit, oh man, I know a little bit I'll sell some feet pics for this jenny's all of a sudden my only fans. Here's my scanner. I guess we'll go to you next, Jenny.
Speaker 4:Besides Joel brought.
Speaker 2:I mean you're looking for a place to work out.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I always knew well I was a D1 softball player, love lifting. Obviously you can kind of tell from my body style I don't like running, so I mean, but you're good at it, but I'm trying, you're good at it.
Speaker 2:You're a very well-rounded athlete.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Derek, Appreciate that I mean gymnastics probably.
Speaker 2:And you are really really good with a barbell.
Speaker 1:Yeah, a barbell Agreed. Yeah, Today was fun.
Speaker 2:That's one word for it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. And then that goes back to community, like yeah, and then that goes back to the community, like me and sarah were like I'll, I'll pick it up and you pick it up on the barbell part because I was going down at that point that helped me so much yeah, I think just crossfit in general.
Speaker 1:I love the constant variation. I don't want to do the same shit every day. Um, you know, you guys make it fun and light, but also like we're working hard, we're sweating together, we're laying on the ground like no one's judging any person here, and I love that. I think you know, we all know we're healthy competitors, right like that leaderboard is obviously there for, in my personal opinion, I want to beat myself, but I'm also cheering for all the baddies in the gym, like I want us all to kick ass, and I think that that's one thing. Inside these four walls, we all just we're all here for each other.
Speaker 1:We wake up every morning, we grind, we, you know, and I think that's the best part of I mean, it's more than a gym.
Speaker 2:No, and you can tell just amongst your guys' relationship.
Speaker 1:Coming into the class, the sport that sometimes may or may not be warming up, that's why we have to get here a little bit earlier, because the warm-up might Well and you guys are so good with us because I know at times we're unruly. We're loud, we'llly.
Speaker 2:We're a lot. We'll get into that in a second.
Speaker 3:Jenny, I remember my first 6 am class.
Speaker 4:I was with my sister Bebe and we laughed and we were like whoa, we want to be like her, Did you see?
Speaker 3:that girl over there, how much she was lifting. I still remember it. And then you're also awesome, Aw thanks guys On top of that.
Speaker 5:I love that. Jenny's strong, she's strong. I just want to keep being strong. That's cool, but you're also like you said. You lifted people up around you. You're not like competitive and like it's such a healthy environment.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I even looked at sarah today. I'm like we're doing 125 right for ed. And she's like do you know, my pr is 140. And I was like, yeah, so rip up 125 32 times.
Speaker 5:She's like that's a no, for me dog but you know. She lifted it like a cake, a piece of cake. I don't know if it was cake.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it moved, so that was cool.
Speaker 2:Emma.
Speaker 3:Yes, my turn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, brought you in.
Speaker 3:I, like Jenny, played a sport in college. I played basketball. I, like Jenny, played a sport in college. I played basketball. And my first year after graduating I kind of had that like cliche lost athlete transition. I was going to 24-hour fitness every day doing like my little Instagram workouts that I could find Like how do I stay active, keep it fun? And I was like really lost and sad for a while. And then I watched I think I watched like the fittest women Netflix documentary, the CrossFit one one night, and I was like, oh, I want to do that. Like that looks cool, I can do that. Like I can, I want to be strong and that looks so much fun. So I just found a gym. I was in the Bay Area at the time and I found a CrossFit gym close by, went to a class and I can't remember what the workout is called, but it's where you do like 1,000 thrusters.
Speaker 5:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:That's amazing.
Speaker 5:What.
Speaker 4:There's the 100 one with calcine, maybe it's the 100. And you do burpees, yes, and you do burpees?
Speaker 2:Yes, that was your first. That was my first class and I walked out like my hair was a mess.
Speaker 3:I was beet red. And I was like oh, this is fucking cool, is that? Cool, that wasn't the word I used, and I still was like very competitive you know still had the athlete competitiveness and I was like I can do this and I died. I think I remember calling my dad that night and being like guess what I just did.
Speaker 1:It was insane. Was Kyle always so salty back in the day when you called him he's?
Speaker 3:actually much better these days. But ever since then I kind of kept going to classes and it was such a new fun challenge where I already liked the weightlifting from basketball. But I knew I needed people around me and structure and music and friendships and just kind of that community. I you know I don't enjoy necessarily working out by myself.
Speaker 4:And.
Speaker 2:I know that's for some people, but it's definitely not for me, oh no, If you look at society, it's for very few people working out by themselves. I can force myself to do it but, it's not something. I'd so much rather work out with people.
Speaker 3:And then I was down in the Bay Area for a while and I my dad was kind of, I think, in the same boat, like biking a lot. I was like you should try CrossFit, like it's really cool, you would like it. And I think that's when he started about the same time here. And then when I moved back to Reno I was like, well, I'll go to the place you're at so we can work out together. And it's been a party ever since.
Speaker 5:And your sister went. Oh yeah, my sister lived here. Got her involved.
Speaker 3:It's just fun to be healthy, feel good. I've gone through, I think, the classic. I don't know what I should be doing. Should I do the Pilates? Should I do the running? Should I do the biking? There's so many things out there, but all roads for me lead back to CrossFit.
Speaker 5:That's right.
Speaker 3:That's good.
Speaker 2:I mean, the most important thing in any fitness is consistency, and if you don't like it, you're not going to be consistent with it. Yeah, there's a lot of things out there that can keep you healthy. I mean, obviously, for me personally, I still believe in CrossFit methodology as being one of the cornerstones. But it's not just CrossFit, it's the people, how things function. It's just like a class functions both from a coach side and being in class side. It is so uh, it just works and it's cool, it's awesome and Emma's a good athlete.
Speaker 1:She was killing the high rocks last weekend, or two weekends ago.
Speaker 3:She's a good athlete.
Speaker 2:Did I? What Did you see her pictures?
Speaker 3:I did. They were awesome, thank you.
Speaker 1:That was yes.
Speaker 2:Poor Jenny Didn't get there early enough.
Speaker 1:Don't even I would have probably looked like half dead.
Speaker 3:You got a few good pictures. I literally look dead in all of them. No, you don't.
Speaker 4:I mean, you're kind of supposed to, If you look perfectly composed that was after the birthday you made that sled pull.
Speaker 1:Look like it was like chum change. Dude, it was so cool to see you just rip through those weights.
Speaker 3:So nice of you through those weights. So nice of you. It didn't feel like that Looked like lightweight, like a PVC pipe.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it was amazing.
Speaker 2:High Rocks was interesting to watch. I get the appeal on one side, but it reinforced the fact that training CrossFit and you add some running in really does. I mean it supports the backbone of that event.
Speaker 1:Well, and I think too, too, because I think not that we're like aging out, but I think oh, I'm aging out. Well, yeah, actually like totally, but I think it's something that almost everyone could either do or train for, because you're not doing like muscle ups or really heavy, heavy. It's very fitness inclusive yeah, and like it's still something you're like goal, because that's what me and Emma were talking about. We just not get in a rut, but you know how it is. You're like we're just showing up and doing the thing.
Speaker 1:It's fun to look forward to something. Yeah, it was cool to sign up, to feel that nervous energy.
Speaker 3:The day when we woke up, we're like. It's pregame, that's our problem, the athlete problem. It's our problem. The athlete problem. It's like the pregame jitters, yeah, yeah, like we were texting each other the night before.
Speaker 5:Talking about blood work now.
Speaker 1:And we're like yeah Right, I know, we were texting the night before and we're like glass of wine sounds good but we should probably be good.
Speaker 4:I know.
Speaker 1:And I'm like we would have been fine, like it was a Saturday workout, but like on steroids and people were like watching you. That's cool.
Speaker 2:That was cool, I definitely. I know one of my hot takes was bashing on High Rocks, but that was more for clicks than anything.
Speaker 4:I know that was actually one of my questions.
Speaker 1:I was like, after seeing it live, well, even though it was a simulation, did you feel different about the event? Or would it's something like double edge, so down, the future would host, or?
Speaker 2:potentially. I guess I think it's a any fitness thing is is cool my eyes because I want people to work towards these things because they're going to get healthier. Yeah, regardless, it is very simple to run. So, from a I'm going to say, event management side, it's much simpler than crossfit and all the variables at play. Running a crossfit event like battlegrounds back in the day that I have zero interest in doing ever again. Um, it's very inclusive. So you can get a, you know, you get a lot of people doing it and it is cool to see. You know there's some people like with their parents out there doing it with them and like broad demographics.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, where I got, where I got little sideways about it, was the influencer world trying to say it's better than CrossFit. The problem is it's different. It's people like to put CrossFit as just the CrossFit Games, the sport of CrossFit. So the sport of CrossFit and the sport High Rocks is only a sport is two different things. Well, those two are both competitive things, but the CrossFit is the backbone. That is not High Rocks, that is not the CrossFit Games. Sure, crossfit Games, they do what we do in the gym, but that is not what CrossFit is. Crossfit is about health and I 110,000% believe it is a phenomenal program for building health and general physical preparedness across all domains. So you can go out and do high rocks. Might not be the best runner that day If you do a little bit more running, but you're going to be prepared better than just a runner for high rocks for sure.
Speaker 1:So you could definitely tell, like just the runners out there like they were getting like my partner was getting.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, cat if you're listening to this, but like smoked on the burpees you know no, and watching people that I know do crossfit, which the majority of the people there did at one gym or another. I mean they slayed the CrossFit stuff and you could see where people had been training running and then you could see the good runners just like stare at the sled.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I couldn't move it and for me that one of my big things and principles for me is just being capable of doing a lot of things. My kids want to go do this thing.
Speaker 5:Yes.
Speaker 2:I'm cool. If my buddy wants to sign up for the tactical games, I'm ready. And having that capability across a lot of different things. You want to go on a backpacking trip and I need to carry 60 pounds. I'm 100% confident I could do that tomorrow morning. Like I don't need this big training. Like we need to build up, like always being prepared to do stuff, whether it be survival, doomsday shit or fun with my children. For me and my, what do you want to say? I like having confidence in myself to be able to do that. And the high rocks highlighted that CrossFit still prepares you. Just like Wes was saying, like we just do group class and we legitimately murdered the tactical games. On the fitness side, shooting, we could spend one less day in the gym and one more day shooting. It was just really rewarding to be able to experience that and knowing that I just I do constantly varied functional movements. I execute at high intensity on a regular, consistent basis and it pays off.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't think I would have done high rocks without crossfit like there's no way in hell, no so yeah huge money maker, though I did the math no, I was talking, I was like damn they made like 22k that day, minus maybe paying out the dj and running space.
Speaker 2:But I mean it definitely has a draw.
Speaker 2:I mean crossfit events before everybody got burnt out on them would have a nice draw. So there's definitely a business model to them and I think there's something to it. And, um, I'm not, I'm not opposed to it, like I'm not. I just know for me from the business side, anytime I deviate too far outside of my what I'm really good at, it tends not to be as good and that makes me nervous. I really try to stay focused on, like we are, an adult based general physical preparedness gym for the everyday professional to come in and get quite above average fitness and be healthy and do it in a very time efficient manner that's a great value proposition.
Speaker 2:By the way, I'm learning all about value propositions like that is the model of what this gym was built on. That's who I want to cater to. I'm not trying to create athletes even though ryan went to the crossfit games, that can still happen in these walls but that is not my target, so I don't want to be the. You know what's it where leaf blows here, and I'm chasing this new idea and this idea because, you know, printed twenty thousand dollars, right?
Speaker 1:well, and I don't think anyone would think that of you.
Speaker 2:I think no, no, I just know that about myself and it takes away from other areas of my life and or running the business, like when I tried to add yoga or I tried to add this, you know or what if we like, facilitated it and then it was off your plate.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Because I mean, she did a TikTok for it.
Speaker 3:So I'm like we got our girl right here. Got a TikTok set up for it already. Follow me on TikTok.
Speaker 2:Double H has a TikTok account now I don't know what to do with it. I don't even have access to it. I'll help you.
Speaker 3:I've gotten like at least 200 views. I'm just kidding. Oh, give it to Emma. I've gotten like at least 200 views. I'm just kidding, that's not a lot.
Speaker 1:Hey, it's just the beginning.
Speaker 4:Yeah, just the beginning.
Speaker 2:So no, it's definitely, I'm not opposed to it and I think the gym and my, I think I'm ready and okay with kind of taking on a little bit more.
Speaker 1:Well, and I was like this kind of like swerves into a next question, Like double-edged, we're all obviously growing older together. Do you feel like that has changed your way of like, how we program, how we evolve, Like, obviously, like our average age? I believe.
Speaker 2:I don't know if I heard correctly, this gym is about 42. Yeah, south is younger.
Speaker 1:You're like bringing down the bar and your dad's bringing it up Kyle.
Speaker 2:No, but to your point a lot of members have been here since we've opened.
Speaker 4:Yeah, right, so it's 11 years now.
Speaker 2:And we've all aged together. I mean, I've felt it.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 1:A lot of us. I feel it in my bones every day.
Speaker 2:Well, no, in the last couple of years I've definitely had to rethink my own competitive nature, training smarter. I was getting very upset with how I was recovering and feeling on a daily basis, going out and trying to win CrossFit wads and like it just wasn't sustainable and I'd go through these roller coasters of getting burnt out and then try to get back into it. I mean, there's periods of time in this gym.
Speaker 2:I barely worked out three days a week and as more forced and over the last couple of years just evaluating myself and where I'm at and then coaching more, and now coaching between both gyms and seeing broader scope of the business, if you will. There is a. I mean CrossFit in its core can be scaled from elite to new, but there's definitely a thought process my brother and I want to dive into in the next month of like taking a good look at our programming as a whole, because you guys have noticed like I've mixed in different things with warmups, some of that stuff's just purely me testing stuff out.
Speaker 2:How is this getting my class moving versus the way I watch chase, maybe warm-up class or coach with a younger crowd you know warming up 5am whose average age is probably around you know 42, 45, and they've all been training a long time.
Speaker 1:It is a different warm-up than you would see in the afternoon and um then I like, when you put random hip thing I just made up 45 seconds ago, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:And typically so. I do group class pretty much every day, and how I wake up and drive to the gym like how would I want to get warmed up for this today? That's what's going through my head. I get to the gym, I turn on the lights, walk around how am I moving? And then I take that and apply it to my warm-ups because I fit kind of in the age group of our people, and then, if it's really wackadoodle, I have to text Tammy and sometimes I'll put my phone down and make a quick video like this is this random?
Speaker 3:shit that I put up here today.
Speaker 5:Because, she also she likes my warm-ups and stuff.
Speaker 2:Do all the coaches do different warm-ups, so I give coaches the autonomy to warm up their class, okay, and if they have issues like a number one priority here is no injuries for multiple reasons, right it's like you're trying to get healthier, fitter, to live happier outside these walls and be functional and do cool stuff. So if you get injured, that's very counterproductive and it's bad for business like it's.
Speaker 2:It's not good, all things are falling apart, and crossfit has that reputation which is just everyone I try to lure to the gym is always like I don't want to get hurt is the first thing they always say and I am not going to defend that it's perfect because unfortunately, up until recently, you only needed a two-day certification to open a gym and coach people wow, wow that's crazy. You could have never coached fitness in your entire life. Go take a two-day course and start coaching people in a business on very like. High skill, high risk reward is what I call it.
Speaker 5:Movements yeah.
Speaker 2:And I've never agreed with that. Now, I'm not one for more oversight and more this and that, but I do think there should be a higher standard, an experience standard and an education standard on a gym yeah, and it's getting a little bit better. Like now you need at least a level two, so you need hours of coaching experience, and then you go to another two-day course, so now four days plus some coaching experience, you can open a gym call yourself a crossfit gym. So I would like to see that bar continually raised, particularly in the coaching hours, because, uh, people do get hurt and I have heard from many people who have tried CrossFit and well, my hairdresser, for instance, who just started today.
Speaker 1:Oh, was that the lady that came in? Yeah, the younger one, the older one, the younger.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool years and just like terrified. And she still had the assumption you're like, you're just going to come in here and flip tires and you know, and injuries and this and stuff and I'm like I mean, I don't go to my hair appointment, just talk about my job. But now we've gotten close and I'm just and she has a couple clients and my wife goes there, my kids go to her and I just like just come try it yeah.
Speaker 3:Do you find it hard or harder to market to the younger demographic or the younger age group? I'm finding marketing there I'm finding marketing difficult all the way around, because it's relatively new to me, or just bringing in a younger.
Speaker 2:Uh, yeah, yeah yes, the number one when it comes to younger people, when I'm chatting through the website or whatever, is our price point?
Speaker 1:yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 2:What's um the going rate 229 a month okay, so that's the number one, but also, I'm not trying to I've never I'm not trying to be the cheapest place in town, so I know that's going to be a one barrier of entry for a lot of folks. And, um, it isn't my target market per se the 18 to 24 year old, if you will. I'm looking for the person that's out of college that I, if I had to describe our target market, it's like the 25 to 55 year old business professional professional. I want the bookends, obviously, but I'm not going to drop my price point to get the youngsters. People have asked me like why don't I get UNR and have a UNR discount and things like that? It's like I'm not going to compete with UNR. They have a phenomenal gym that I wish I had when I went there.
Speaker 1:Same Like I'm not even going to try, I'm not going to gut.
Speaker 2:This is already a very low profit margin business. If we're at capacity, you start gutting your price point down, down, down.
Speaker 3:Can't pay coaches.
Speaker 2:We're the only gym in town that has full-time, salaried coaches. We're the only gym that does paid vacation benefits, all this stuff. You start cutting prices down to compete or to get into a price point that you know younger kids, they just it's not at the end of the day.
Speaker 1:So yeah, that would be the number one barrier, right, they hear the price and it's like no well, it's not like we're like a bro sesh kind of gym, like we don't, you know, have mirrors out there we, we're not like. I mean, everyone kind of rips off their shirt from time to time, but it's not that kind of place, you know.
Speaker 2:No, and that's not what I wanted. Right, that wasn't, that wasn't the goal. So I mean, you guys are my perfect example of who I'm wanting to draw in here the moms, the business owners, the professionals that are climbing the career like and just from a grown-up standpoint, like we're here to get fit, be healthy for our families outside the gym, get the work done, get on with our day kind of mindset.
Speaker 3:I don't know if that makes sense but uh when I this is my market yeah, it's that hour a day you get to focus on yourself before you have to go and I want it to be the best hour of your day, enter the world?
Speaker 5:What aspect of your business do you enjoy the most?
Speaker 2:Now, I love coaching.
Speaker 5:You're a good coach. Genuinely love coaching.
Speaker 2:My favorite part of coaching is working with people who have injuries and need modifications.
Speaker 1:I was going to say you crush the modification. Yeah, like you can whip it off so fast. I'm like man, did you rehearse?
Speaker 4:that? How do you know what injury I have?
Speaker 2:I mean, I started out in physical therapy like being an aide and I was going to go to physical therapy school and then I was bored because Cassie ended up in Vegas for PA school and I was like, oh, what am I going to do with my life and this and that still?
Speaker 3:going through that, trying to figure it out.
Speaker 2:I was working at Western Nevada Supply. I was doing some personal training. My mom wasn't a big fan of me, just personal training at that time of my life and it's like, what are you going to do for your career? So I started shadowing at the rock doing physical therapy stuff and it's like it's cool. But some physical therapists like Nevada PT, they're awesome, they have a great environment Like I could see myself working in an environment like that.
Speaker 2:For the most part, people go to physical therapy. They don't give a shit, they don't want to progress themselves, they don't want to put in the work and you just do a couple of exercises and go on with your day. And they may or may not. It wasn't for me. So I started personal training and I really, really enjoyed that interaction and when people came in hurt or getting past injury, I loved it. It challenged my brain. Give them a great exercise, rehab them. When I get somebody that's backs messed up and then they're back to normal life, like from spine or shoulder injuries, those are some of my favorite. That's cool, that's cool.
Speaker 2:Like one of my clients now who had her, her tib, fib sawed off, reposition put back together. They said that she would never squat, box, jump run, do any of this stuff Ever again. It was a pretty massive surgery because she'd have constant um kneecap dislocations and stuff. So they doing this stuff ever again. It was a pretty massive surgery because she'd have constant um kneecap dislocations and stuff, so they had to realign everything and it took us like four months. Once she got, she did pt and then I started working with her and now, three years later, she's literally murdering workouts and squatting and box jumping. I want to send all the video to the doctor that said you'll never do this again.
Speaker 1:Yeah, do you mind if I ask how old she is?
Speaker 2:she is 41 wow, that's so.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's 40 41, 42 that's really cool.
Speaker 2:That's cool so that's the stuff that I truly enjoy about my job I love that and I love running a business.
Speaker 2:I I do like it. It's stressful at times. I enjoy the challenge of it. I will say when when you get into taking your passion into a business, it can change your feeling about your passion and I really try to hold on to my coaching side, even though I need to spend time running the business. And finding balance between that stuff sometimes is very difficult Oftentimes I mean, you ask, cassie, I take work home with me all the time, constantly doing stuff on the weekends. And now that I'm doing this whole marketing stuff, now that we've never done before, it's added another layer. But like my buddy who's talked me into doing all this stuff, he's like you have to put your coaching lens on, like you're still coaching through this stuff.
Speaker 5:That's true.
Speaker 2:That's a good point, yeah, and like you're, inspiring, helping people in a different way.
Speaker 3:now You're making an impact in other ways than just coaching.
Speaker 2:So that's the frame. I'm trying to keep it in, but I just I enjoy coaching and I'll do it till the day I die.
Speaker 5:Love that I do too.
Speaker 2:That's cool, keeps me healthy. Well he said you're the only coach that can never leave us. Third email from a guy wanting to buy double edge, because he's emailed me three times and he's local. I'm gonna, I'm gonna ask him, I'm just curious how much he would be willing.
Speaker 5:Yeah, six million is my number with and I double it With
Speaker 2:no non-compete.
Speaker 4:Is that six million for? Both?
Speaker 2:I'd sell the business for six million.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's always a number. Right, there is always a number, but there'd have to be a non-compete so I can just open up another one. So I just killed my shot at getting six million right there.
Speaker 1:It's like someone who won, like in South Africa, like South Africa. They would never buy this without making me sign some crazy long-term commitment. It's crazy to me to think that this was like a porn store.
Speaker 2:It was like what yeah?
Speaker 1:The freaking hot and cold room was like the viewing room.
Speaker 2:No, this is before my time. They made adult videos back in there.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, it was like people spank bank in there. Definitely Romantic sensations. Yep.
Speaker 2:I remember driving. I just formalized our business agreement, like the operating agreement, and Arthur sends me a text message hey, swing by this building, let me know your thoughts Up Virginia Street.
Speaker 4:Poop.
Speaker 1:What, the what I remember was like divided in half. The clothing was on like the turf side.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was empty when we got it. I wasn't like a regular guy, you were definitely like a local.
Speaker 1:No, I got a couple like things here okay.
Speaker 2:Dead costumes I was also like 18. That's probably where you got these dolls.
Speaker 5:I just love that you know how to give us more. What was the setup here?
Speaker 2:You might know more than I do. It was empty when we bought it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the doors weren't locked like how they are now.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was like the back room was locked from the inside, but it seemed like almost like a ross, like it wasn't like completely like filled yeah, it seems like there was just like random shit everywhere, wow.
Speaker 1:And then there's probably like probably a toothless person checking people out. It was rough.
Speaker 4:I mean Rita's TV has a CD part.
Speaker 1:Full disclosure. I came here for a Halloween costume. It was way before Junkie was alive. That makes sense.
Speaker 2:Yep, and before that this building was an automotive shop, a couple restaurants, a car was alive. Yeah, that makes sense.
Speaker 3:Yep, and I mean before that this building was like an automotive shop, a couple of restaurants, a car dealership. Wow, I love the brick. It's a very Total 1065 Virginians.
Speaker 5:I love this building yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, love this place and it was cool, so we drove up, saw it and I was like, oh, this looks like a shithole covered in pink windows, busted out doors hanging halfway off yeah and then yeah we've had a lot of shit homeless people shit outside that still happens to this day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I stepped on a pizza like the other day and I was so pissed off because I like knew it was there before class from Pizza Ava and I parked right by the trash can on the street and I saw it before I went into class and I was like bitch, don't step on the pizza and then on the way out. I stepped on the fucking pizza and also pissed off.
Speaker 2:It's better than shit, though.
Speaker 5:I will take it.
Speaker 3:It was like Alfredo sauce. Wait, that's a perfect segue into one of your questions.
Speaker 4:It is.
Speaker 2:Sorry, yeah, what you got.
Speaker 3:What we got. Let's see, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Actually this is a fun one. Pineapple on pizza, yes or no? Yes, oh, I'm a yes, too you are, but it has to be obviously with Canadian bacon.
Speaker 3:I fuck around with a little pineapple every once in a while not on a regular basis, just on the doorstep does anybody know that?
Speaker 1:it's like the upside down?
Speaker 5:the swingers club.
Speaker 2:I do know that now Claire hates pineapple on pizza. I found that out the other day. It was quite the event.
Speaker 4:What the hell?
Speaker 2:I don't know a lot of people who like that. Claire hates pineapple on pizza. I found that out the other day.
Speaker 5:It was quite the event when we said it what the hell, what You're gross. I don't know a lot of people who like that, actually.
Speaker 2:Trent does.
Speaker 1:Oh Well, I feel like it might be like into like like, because I feel like all of us Filipino people they're like into that too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Maybe like a Highlander thing Pepperoni with pineapple. Pepperoni with pineapple.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't like that.
Speaker 5:It's good. I don't know about pepperoni and pineapple.
Speaker 2:I haven't had a legitimate pizza now since Claire's deal.
Speaker 5:Now would you have a gluten-free one?
Speaker 2:Oh, cassie found this one brand. I can't think of it off the top of my head, but it's okay. Okay, it tastes good. We're cool with it. We're not the cool parents anymore, because any kids that have been to our house that we've made it for they're just like well, good thing that your kids are best friends with kate in, because I feel like he's a hype man.
Speaker 1:He's like no, I don't like this.
Speaker 4:We feel so bad. We're like dammy jp we don't have anything to feed your kid like sorry bud him and jackson are little homies, so I know I saw them doing like the jogathon?
Speaker 1:yeah, they were. They were such hype men.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:Or like when they were pretending to teach the class over here on the turf Caden was like, give me 300 mountain climbers. Like no, if anyone told me to do 300 mountain climbers.
Speaker 3:I'd be like hard pass, I'm out. Okay, on the topic of food, derek, I have yes or no questions for you.
Speaker 2:Derek, I have yes or no questions for you, all right.
Speaker 3:Well, it's just fad. Diet questions, no, just yes or no.
Speaker 2:Good, I like this intermittent fasting maybe.
Speaker 3:Oh well, that's not a part of it. No, that's okay.
Speaker 2:Well, there's, there's context. You can.
Speaker 5:You can go into the details context, I feel like.
Speaker 2:I think it can be a great tool, if you can sustain it, for calorie restriction, but I find it not to be a long-term sustainable tool. Is there a? Difference between intermittent fasting for men versus women I've heard things me too, I would say it'd probably come down to something hormone related, especially around training and training performance. So, uh, the sedentary versus the non-sedentary person, I think you're going to find a difference. The very active person, our population. I don't necessarily believe it's going to be a long-term successful tool at all.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I do know that carbohydrates eating around training and stuff and hormone regulation is a little more important, and fasting can be a much more stressful on women than men. Big part of that is just stored muscle glycogen and the capacity to store more muscle glycogen, because men generally have more muscles, so it's easier for them to live in a fasted state for a longer period of time, and that's the context that I think generally. No, I'm a no-go on it unless we're trying to do weight loss and it is a way for us to get to a calorie restriction.
Speaker 1:Okay. And then you were saying it's beneficial for not even just women, like we should be getting how much grams of protein before our workout uh, generally it seems to be around 15 to 20 grams of carbohydrates.
Speaker 2:15 20-ish grams of protein is ideal I can't eat before.
Speaker 3:Dude, I found such a struggle for me.
Speaker 1:I'll send it to you because I've been chugging it on my way here and it's first one just came out with a clear one yeah and just with water it's so good detrimental to training to train in a fasted state.
Speaker 2:So it depends on who you talk to. There's a very smart doctor, phd. He's an exercise science guy. His name is Dr Andy Galpin. I highly respect him. He's in the camp. As long as you're getting your calories in and the right macronutrient ratios through a 24-hour cycle and if you're recreational which we're all recreational exercisers we train once a day for our health, right? We're not doing multiple workouts a day, right? Sarah?
Speaker 4:No Multiple workouts a day.
Speaker 2:We're not doing it for our job per se right. It's going to be a different animal nutritionally than us who train for health. So if, if you have 23 hours, 24, before your next workout and you're hitting all your macronutrients properly in that recovery window, it's sufficient time for your body to replenish. So whether you're doing a 16, eight fast, but you're still getting your calories. Um, recently they talked about a study either him or somebody knows that the folks that is time restricted versus non-time restricted calories, macros, everything equal. The non-restricted people, towards the end of the study we're recovering faster but there wasn't a huge difference in like muscle growth and hypertrophy. So they're doing a strength training protocol.
Speaker 2:The people that were eating throughout the day were recovering much better as the study went on and on and on. At first it wasn't a huge difference but then it became down to a really a recovery thing and there wasn't a huge deviation during that study in one group gaining more muscle than the other, but general localized fatigue. The study that ate didn't fast did better. So you think of that system. I mean across a longer period of time, three months, six months a year, a lifespan that could really add up to systemic burnout and under, recovering and over-training and hitting walls quicker. And if you do that in your training, you're not going to be training as an effectively and as consistently and you're going to be leaving fitness on the table. So I'm in the camp of eating the bulk of my calories is round, training my body's the most anabolic and wanting to rebuild and replenish. And then I fade that into sleep, which is also a big time of recovery.
Speaker 2:But for gut rest and better quality of sleep, not going to bed stuffed- right but so yeah, so maybe, maybe, but I don't think, I don't think any person if you can, if you train well fasted and you feel like you're recovering this is very subjective too If you feel like you're coming back and performing and keeping up with yourself and you're happy. Some people train great fasted and some people don't. I don't perform my best fasted, I just don't. I don't feel great and you would think I would after years of wrestling and starving. But since getting into this kind of training and weightlifting and stuff, it's for me personally.
Speaker 2:But I know quite a few people at 5am, 6am that come in fast and they're very happy with their fitness and performance and recovery. So I think that question comes. You know, we sit down and have a conversation like I feel like shit, I'm not recovering, I'm not making the progress I want to be making, and then we can start fine-tuning and playing with some of that, because at the end of the day, nutrition is a personal journey. What I do isn any coach and have a fundamental starting point, but at the end of the day, our lives are different, our bodies are different, we're going to function differently and you need to be willing to fine-tune and modify that as you go and that might be fasted, might not be fasted.
Speaker 3:So don't compare yourself to what you see online.
Speaker 2:Everybody you can't, because you really can't, and online is a cesspool of shit, yeah, and I feel like one of my big motivators for this podcast is to help try to sort some of that shit out, because I consume it. I'm online, I see it all and you see people that put these outrageous results and stories and they say take this supplement eat this way and do that and carnivore this and vegetarian.
Speaker 2:That it's like shut the fuck up, like you haven't been coaching fitness for more than three weeks If you're going to sit here and tell me carnivore is the only way to live your life, because it's not true. Neither is vegetarianism. Now, I've seen success in both sides. It's a, it's a, it's's a journey. And then the supplement space and the comparing yourself space. How many people are so full of shit online? It's nauseating. You know, liver king got famous, everybody thinking he's legit 15 grand a month in steroids?
Speaker 2:yeah like no this isn't cool that's one of the biggest reasons I'm super transparent about my testosterone in my middle age. Now is like I don't want to put out a false, like I do think there's middle-aged men that produce testosterone well and have great bodies and physiques and perform well and that they're legitimate and online, not using anything. I think Marcus Fili is clean Like I don't and he's accused of steroids all the time. I don't think he is, and there are people that are online that it's like you are so taking shit yeah, like some of these people in the, the ultra running weightlifting camp.
Speaker 2:Now it's like dumbed down crossfit.
Speaker 5:Your son told me about oh nick bear, yeah and Bayer.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I do like Nick, but I'm not trying to accuse one way or the other, but I have questions I have questions metabolically and hormone wise about anybody who runs eight miles a day and trains that way, that recovery and I'm not saying he doesn't produce a lot of testosterone and like has that capacity. I don't want but that is not a normal thing to do every day runs eight miles he seems like a really good guy.
Speaker 2:I'm not being wrong, but I run eight miles every day. I lift weights, I run a business, massive business. I got kids, I do everything perfect. And it's like I'm over here busting my ass and feeling insignificant, insufficient. I just get my workout in here and I try to do my best around the business and I'm just. You know, you're killing it, dude, proud of you.
Speaker 5:You're killing it too, Derek.
Speaker 1:But the comparison game is coming up. You only have 24 hours in a day and I think he does ultra run?
Speaker 5:He's an ultra runner and an Ironman too, and every day can't be the same.
Speaker 1:Every day, you don't feel the same Is that even good to run eight miles a day.
Speaker 3:So when someone says that it's like, oh, okay.
Speaker 2:I get caught up in the comparison game.
Speaker 3:Right, I didn't work out yesterday and I almost you know it's like you get so in your head about, well, shit, everyone else I'm seeing online worked out today, or I know other people worked out today and I didn't, and you know just, it was a long day at work.
Speaker 3:I slept in, I every, you know made excuses and I've learned, um, that I well, it's taken me a really long time, but I have to start giving myself grace to have those kinds of days so that the next day I'm like okay, I know I'm going to work out tomorrow, I know I'm going to go run or go to the gym or whatever and be stronger even, because if I beat myself up every off day, it's like you're not happy and that's something I'm really trying to work on.
Speaker 1:I know Coach Jess is pretty like. She gives herself, like before, before her injury, of course, she gave herself two days a week.
Speaker 2:Chase is strict.
Speaker 1:Two days a week. Total rest Two days a week totally off.
Speaker 2:I'm a move every day kind of person, but my move might be walking to the river right. It's like a move, do something. I can just move, but you know.
Speaker 1:We're not like move to the refrigerator type of people like anyone in the gym, so it's like our move is different than your average, joe.
Speaker 2:Yesterday was a total rest day for me. I was feeling beat down, slept like crap. I knew we had a big workout today, Like I'm going to eat a ton of food today and I'm going to rest Right, and it's important to rest because our body and our hormones and our recovery it needs rest to recover. So these people that are concentrating, concentrating I found that out doing the 75 hard challenge.
Speaker 3:This is.
Speaker 2:It was very taxing. It fucked me up.
Speaker 3:That was training, every single day.
Speaker 5:What about it? Screwed you up?
Speaker 2:Just the volume of training. Now you find out later people do a 45 minute walk for the workout. I ran every single time oh okay, and then I did crossfit every single time for 110 days straight and it took me six months to feel normal again. Wow, like when I hit a wall it was over. And you go through this like, okay, that was one of the leanest times in my life and I was really fit. But I had absolutely energy, had nothing left for my family. It was like this isn't sustainable. It's not sustainable.
Speaker 3:Well, and that's the hard part too, I mean the amount of respect I have for people with families and kids. I mean I can barely make it through the day taking care of myself and I'm like what if I had three kids? I mean you the day taking care of myself, and I'm like what if I had three kids?
Speaker 5:you know, I mean you obviously do it, yeah, but you know, it's just every.
Speaker 3:You can't be perfect every day no no, and it's just not no. But it's so easy to compare to the people who say they're being perfect every day exactly?
Speaker 2:who say they're being perfect every single day and social media is full of garbage? Yeah, well, it's like everyone that needs validation.
Speaker 1:You can tell the people that are actually very sad and very lonely. They're looking for likes or I have to post whatever. And we know it's bullshit.
Speaker 3:At the end of the day, you check in with your people. Coming here, it's like okay, you know you can whatever. If it's been two days, three days, you can come here. You can see your people. Yeah, coming here it's like okay, you know you can whatever. If it's been two days, three days, you can come here. You can see your people, you can get a good workout in and you can feel good about yourself and move forward.
Speaker 5:Totally.
Speaker 2:Because you should, and that's real world.
Speaker 4:It's real life, yeah.
Speaker 2:And lots of people here, kids, and I'll say I didn't think I could do. And let's just be honest here, cassie's a super mom. She is a super mom, but when I started this business she told me. She said I'm getting pregnant and you're going to be a part of it or you're not.
Speaker 1:I'm going to need you actually.
Speaker 2:Talk me into it. But I was terrified because there's so much work and like building the business and this and that.
Speaker 1:Like the business and this and that, like how am I going to fit being a dad in all this? And then it happens and you've just figured it out. You do, you just figure it out.
Speaker 2:You figure it out. I had to drive Claire twice a day to breastfeed while coaching.
Speaker 3:Like you just figure it out.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I think and that's one thing when it comes to the comparison game I've had to learn as a coach like what stresses me out or what stresses you out. I might be like, well, that's really chicken shit, it's pretty weak, it's pretty pathetic navigating excuses being a coach and you have to be careful and it's, I guess, growing as a coach, like my stress is going to be different than your stress and that doesn't mean we're not both having a 10 out of 10 response to that stress and the 10 out of 10.
Speaker 2:Response to that stress is going to affect how you eat, how you show up to the gym, how you get your sleep. Now, I mean, if your stress of the day is like, hypothetically, the lulu pants weren't on sale, right, and my stress is, I just lost twenty thousand dollars. They're different, but they're hitting a 10 for both of us.
Speaker 5:Emotionally it's going to have a response that we still need to overcome and navigate that.
Speaker 2:And learning that as a coach is, I guess, being more empathetic yeah and understanding that everybody walks a different path every single day and their stresses are going to affect them differently than their stresses would affect you, just like my stresses would affect you differently.
Speaker 2:We're all on our own path yeah and I think if you can take that mindset and apply it to your training, your nutrition, everything, we're on our own path. It's us against us each day, and then you just keep trying to build better and better and better. And I think the style of training we do builds more resilience in people for outside the gym than almost any other style of training 100%, 100%. So doing workouts like today, this isn't good training.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we can't do that every day. No, this isn't good training. It's mentally, though, this is good resilience building.
Speaker 2:It's a good test of fitness, but it's good resilience building.
Speaker 1:Well, and that's what here wads are all about. You know we show up for them and we know we're going to have to hit 10, whatever RPE. But yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I didn't even look at my heart rate. But I have like 750 calories.
Speaker 2:Building stress tolerance for life. I think the gym is one of the few places left in society that you can do that you know our life as americans.
Speaker 2:Some people don't really care for our country, I guess, but in general we got a pretty good life in this country, you know get a roof over your head, food, job, free will, like all these things. It's pretty cushy, so there's nowhere to really build resilience by going through hardship. When the West was found, if you will, and families were moving up from the East and across the Oregon Trail and the Donner Pass and you have 18 kids because five or 10 of them are going to die on the way over and you want to carry on your family, this is real hardship of trying to overcome obstacles and barriers. Our biggest obstacle is getting unprocessed or processed food, but we never lived in a time I mean I'm going to say maybe for all of us, one of the most we never lived in a time that caused massive stress and survival and so in the gym it's somewhere we can, can get to our what do you want to say?
Speaker 2:primal self of sorting that out in our brain. That's one of the reasons I do hard things like stay awake for 30-plus hours doing a workout and stuff to see how far I can push the brain although it's not good for the body Right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's a good point. So stop comparing, right? Yeah, that's a good point.
Speaker 2:So stop comparing yourself.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that was what all that was about?
Speaker 3:Is that what we were talking about? Again, the comparison game online? No, I know, I know it's bad. Some days I'm good, some days I'm bad.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it depends on the scroll time. And your generation. It's hard oh.
Speaker 3:Generation is hard.
Speaker 5:Oh, it's crazy, I mean it's hard for all of us, but I do feel for your generation. Yeah, a lot with that comparison.
Speaker 2:I'm already seeing it in, like my kids.
Speaker 3:Yeah, well it's. Yeah, it's got to be much worse for kids who are younger. I mean I at least made it to like 16 before Instagram.
Speaker 2:My kids already tell me they want to be YouTube influencers.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 1:They're like Dad. I see your podcast. I want to be on there. You have to have them in here one day.
Speaker 2:One day Jackson's already. He's going to be taken over.
Speaker 5:Okay, I have a question and I know we're running out of time. How should women in their 40s approach strength training differently than 20s and 30s?
Speaker 2:Um, I don't.
Speaker 5:Or do you think that we need to?
Speaker 2:I don't think that we need to. I think, regardless of gender, as you age, you do need to train smarter in the sense of understanding your recovery and being okay that it's not going to be the same as when you're in your 20s and 30s.
Speaker 2:You can bounce back from a lot in your younger years. I would say strength training probably needs to be much more prioritized as you get older. Osteoporosis and long-term metabolic health and muscle is probably one of the best things you can do for your body, and the amount of people that die from hip fractures and slip strips and falls, especially amongst females, it's dramatically different over males. It comes down to a strength equation as you get older. So I'd say when you get 40, you should honestly get more serious about strength training. You still need your cardiovascular health, you still need to do the card, and that's why I love CrossFit. We get metabolic conditioning, which is a combination of strength training, cardio often, so you're getting the one-two punch there, but I would put even a heavier emphasis on it I like that as we, as we're getting older, because I've never, ever and I probably never will meet a 67 year old.
Speaker 2:That's like damn. Wish I wasn't this strong.
Speaker 1:No, I wish I was just a little bit weaker every hour or her arms like every time when she comes in I'm like dude she's doing strict muscle ups.
Speaker 2:She's amazing. And granted her stature facilitates more gymnastics oriented skills, but she still moves a barbell. She's phenomenal.
Speaker 4:I tell her all the time you're my idol for aging. Yeah.
Speaker 2:And she just loves strength training and I'm not even sure how old she is.
Speaker 1:I think she's 56-ish.
Speaker 2:Yeah, somewhere in there Around that range.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she's amazing, but even like mommy is turning 70. That's crazy.
Speaker 3:I didn't know, that.
Speaker 5:That's crazy.
Speaker 4:Doesn't shy away from strength training, loves it.
Speaker 2:And I think that's where the best bang for your buck is going to be in carrying on long-term health and especially if you can mix in cardiovascular training. I just don't think we should shift away from strength training as we age. We should be doing honestly more of it, just being very intentional and how we train and how we recover, because getting injured as you get older it sets you back further yeah because the comeback from each injury you know in your 40s, 50s, 60s I mean it didn't set you back much more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like don. He just got shoulder surgery in master's class, his rotator cuff finally fixed and three days later he's in here riding the bike doing single arm dumbbell stuff. He's like I ain't gonna stop moving yeah, he's like in his late 60s that is cool.
Speaker 5:I love that so we see so many examples of that in this gym. It's inspiring.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my dad yeah yeah yeah, especially, especially when he's obsessed, right, especially when he listens to me like no he wasn't here today.
Speaker 2:He's in his 70s this was a good one for Kyle to skip. Well, I told him yesterday he had to do RX, like in 85.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I probably would have died. No, he does great, and especially when he listens and we you know he's okay with my scales and modifications. His shoulders get better and he gets stronger.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And it's super rad yeah, Like it's fun it's been.
Speaker 3:it's awesome to work out with my dad.
Speaker 2:It's like so cool.
Speaker 3:I mean he pushes me, he's like where were you today?
Speaker 2:And I'm like well, I was tired, he goes tired.
Speaker 3:What are you talking about, don't?
Speaker 2:be tired, you know. I mean he's pushed one of the coolest things in the gym.
Speaker 3:I love that.
Speaker 5:Like when your kids come in. Yeah, I love it so much. You and Kyle like I love seeing parents and their kids.
Speaker 1:We try, I mean I work on it almost daily.
Speaker 5:Okay, real quick Creatine before or after you work out.
Speaker 2:Me and Chase had this discussion the other day on the supplements podcast.
Speaker 5:Oh shoot, I'm so sorry. No, no, no, okay.
Speaker 2:So it's very fresh.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm in the camp of creatine as a long-term health supplement. Uh-huh, sports performance is most. Research is behind that. As long as you take it daily, consistently, that's my goal.
Speaker 3:Okay, is there a difference between male and female?
Speaker 2:You're the most uh, just period body weight. So how much you take? Okay, a quantity. So that would be the undulation there. Uh, you're the most anabolic post-workout. Chase takes his after his workout because in his mind, that's when his muscles and body is going to be taking up the most nutrients, because that's when your body wants the most nutrients, which makes sense to me. So I don't think it's bad to take it after as long as you take. I put it in the first thing I drink every day.
Speaker 5:Yeah, me too, and if I forget, I'm not like oh my god should you snort it?
Speaker 1:I dry mouth it really put on your gum and should like my, should riker my 13 year old.
Speaker 5:Should he be taking it he?
Speaker 1:can yeah, he loves it, I'm okay, so did that bear that came into your garage?
Speaker 2:I'm a huge fan of creatine I think everybody, both genders, could benefit from it. My one caveat there is, if you have any sort of kidney dysfunction or you only have one kidney, talk to your nephrologist before you start slamming creatine, Because I mean your kidneys still have to deal with processing. But in general, for the majority of the population, there's only an upside to creatine and there's more and more coming out about it being more supportive for your mental health and physical health.
Speaker 3:What would you tell the girls, women, females who are afraid to join CrossFit because they think they're going to get bulky?
Speaker 5:Oh yeah, that's a good one.
Speaker 2:I really, really, really love that question because you hear it all the time.
Speaker 3:I have all my yeah so this is the number one thing.
Speaker 2:To get bulky is really freaking hard to do. I'm not going to pretend. Some women don't have maybe a little extra testosterone and naturally gain muscle easier than others. I mean, this goes for men too, right? It is a thing In general. You're not going to get bulky, you're going to get a physique. Right, you're going to reshape, you're going to add some muscle. How long have you been trying to add muscle lately?
Speaker 1:Forever, yeah and we're still trying.
Speaker 2:Ten years I've been legitimately trying to build muscle myself, as a man on testosterone replacement therapy who hits all my protein goals and it's ticked up seven, eight pounds over, like six years, and I'm going to say this If you happen to build muscle, you're going to be so damn proud of the physique you have, you're not going to be worried about being bulky.
Speaker 1:Exactly, you're going to get all the comments you wanted. Yeah, you're going to be so damn proud of the physique you have. You're not going to be worried about being bulky all the comments you wanted.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're gonna feel so good, so it's, I get it. Women get a short end of the stick when it comes to perception and society of how you perceive yourself, with all the magazines and the skinny ideology and the olympic life like that is not.
Speaker 1:Don't even get us started.
Speaker 2:I'm in for it.
Speaker 1:We need another bottle of champagne.
Speaker 2:It's sad to me, and raising a daughter now it's something that I want to be very upfront about Lifting weights, being strong female, being fit. It's about being healthy. And muscle is healthy and muscle is beautiful. Now, IBF, IBBF, whatever the bodybuilding federation is that's about? Being healthy and muscle is healthy and muscle is beautiful. Now, IBF, IBBF, whatever the bodybuilding federation is, that's a different animal. And the way those people train two, three hours a day to do that, you're not going to get it doing a GPP class.
Speaker 2:But you are going to get some muscle, you get physique, you look good. Sorry, from a dude's perspective, this super skinny idea is not attractive to me. If you're going for pure appearance, I think that's a losing scenario and most men agree in my camp, I think.
Speaker 1:if we took a ratio or a survey it's as you guys know. I say it all the time. No one wants to fuck a bag of bones. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:You said something else the other day. You haven't heard a rap song about a flat butt. Yeah, no one's ever sang about a flat butt.
Speaker 1:And it seems like a zempic, like targets muscle first and then like you're gonna lose, maybe like your belly last, which you wanted to lose, that first. So it's.
Speaker 2:The studies show that's about a 50 50 of each if you're not doing lifestyle modifications during it, like aggressive protein intake, aggressive weight training like you need to level up your strength training and level up your protein intake on ozic to mitigate the muscle loss and I have personally seen people now in my life maintain and or gain a little bit of muscle and drop a tremendous amount of fat. But you have to be very aggressive and very intentional in that. But in general in society, if you're not making lifestyle changes, if you aren't working out, doing these things and you're just taking what did Trump say? The fat shot.
Speaker 4:Oh, I don't know. He's like my friend's taking the fat shot. It's not working.
Speaker 2:Good God man.
Speaker 5:That was funny.
Speaker 2:If you're taking the shot and doing nothing else, you're going to deplete 50% on average muscle and fat at the same time. So basically, at some point, I mean you kind of look like you have some sort of very bad disease.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Like it's not good.
Speaker 2:So, that's the scary part of it, and I mean your metabolic health. Who knows the long-term ramifications of gutting your muscle mass like that, especially in your mid-40s?
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:You know, it is kind of this, those epic crazes hitting the middle-aged women which I get perimenopause. There's a lot of shit going on and it's real, like it is real and it's valid, but I don't think without aggressive lifestyle change, and this maybe could be a potential help. Um, I'm not the asshole about it, I was a year ago and um, don't be scared of getting bulky, because if you do add a little bit of muscle, you're going to really appreciate it and that's where physiques are actually built in building muscle, not, uh, cardio yourself away yeah.
Speaker 1:So, build those glutes.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 5:I like it, get the muscle.
Speaker 2:But everybody has their own personal image of what they look like and unfortunately I found, with the number of women I've coached over 20 years, I hardly find a female that gets to a point where, like now, I'm perfect.
Speaker 4:I hit the spot that I'm happy.
Speaker 2:I mean women that have done physique shows to women.
Speaker 3:I mean I've had the conversation with each one of you. Yeah, I know, I think had the conversation with each one of you. Yeah, I know, I think I told you, the other day. How do I get skinny Fit, strong, healthy?
Speaker 2:women. Like all three of you women, I would want my daughter to grow up and idolize.
Speaker 5:Aw, thanks, derek.
Speaker 2:And you're not happy with yourselves all the time I know, but that goes for everybody. I mean, even men have body dysmorphia issues and expectations and this and that, so it's not just a one-sided thing, but it's very, very bad in women, and women aren't allowed to age.
Speaker 4:I know it's fucked up in society, Like women aren't allowed to age Mm-mm.
Speaker 5:So it's like you're inundated with this stuff from social media and Mark whatever all the time and it is very unbalanced. Whereas men are allowed to age and it's all of a sudden you're silver fox and it's like distinguished or yeah, all the things, or women are just like an old hag and it's funny, even though I, I, I do all of that and I have a little body dysmorphia from time to time.
Speaker 3:The best I feel is when I'm here for an hour doing CrossFit and I don't think about it when I'm squatting or power cleaning, I feel so awesome and confident and like I'll leave being like hell yeah, that was awesome.
Speaker 2:Knowing that you can legitimately pick your dad up.
Speaker 3:Right, yes.
Speaker 5:Save his life or squat your dad.
Speaker 3:But then you kind of leave and you go about your day and then you lay in bed and you scroll or whatever and all of that kind of goes out the window. So I think it's just maintaining that confidence and I don't know powerful feeling that I know I need to work on.
Speaker 2:I will say, once you turn 40, because you're 30 now, potentially, as you get to 40, the fuck's left to give about all that stuff really gets snatched.
Speaker 4:It does go down a lot, I think the less fucks are getting.
Speaker 2:I mean, when it comes to me and my perception of myself, it's 100% related to my son right now, because he wants us to be superheroes together. So, it's like we're training dad because we're going to be superheroes.
Speaker 4:That's cool. All right, bro, let's do this so.
Speaker 5:I mean it definitely.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it changes, it changes as you get older, for sure, yeah, but I mean, if you go back to like two weekends ago, yeah, you're just out there crushing it right like not a worry in the world. No, so I think you just channel that inner Emma. That's so badass and I will say in the social space there are people getting more like.
Speaker 2:This is the real me and it's not too much over the top.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:This is my body. I got muscles. I got a little extra skin here. This is me and I train this much and I do this. That is realistic.
Speaker 3:Yeah, this is my hobby and this is something I enjoy.
Speaker 2:I've had five kids. This shit ain't going to be the same anymore.
Speaker 1:That's why there are such things as tummy tucks. If you are unhappy and if you have I think that's the problem with society too. If you have money, you can make a change, but if you're poor, you have to stay fat or unhappy. Actually, I think the end goal is just have money.
Speaker 2:That's what this all came down to. Make money get paid, get a tummy tuck. No, but there's no question there's a socioeconomic divide when it comes to health.
Speaker 2:The cheapest food in our country is made that only the shittiest food is the cheapest food, yeah, yep. And who's going to have access to this? I look at how much we spend in our house now with Claire's, you know, with the crone stuff, and like to elevate to completely 100% unprocessed diet of all organic, all the stuff. Hey, holy hell, is it crazy. It's crazy all organic all the stuff.
Speaker 1:Hey holy hell, is it crazy, it's crazy yeah.
Speaker 2:And we ate a pretty healthy before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and you said, you can't even shop like with boxes anymore. Right, we pretty much don't Like.
Speaker 2:Cassie has found some brands that do pretty good, so they get. We have a cereal now and but, I, mean this one bag of cereal. The kids kill it in two days.
Speaker 2:It's like 13 bucks I know there's definitely a socioeconomic deal when it comes to health and fitness, but I'm still also in just health in general. I'm still also in the camp that you do have some control, Like regardless of where you're at in your life. I didn't grow up rich. A lot of people don't. David Goggins, never did. You know you can still put in the work. It's easier to learn nowadays than it's ever been.
Speaker 2:Agreed Like access to learning also comes down to a choice, and you can. I see some really fit people working out in the damn park at Idyllwild.
Speaker 4:They might be living in their damn car right there.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, not a lot of those hanging out there, get out of the car at some point, but in general I do understand that argument.
Speaker 2:But in general I do understand that argument and I don't know what the long-term solution of that is, other than I mean not to get all political and weird, but I think so much goes back to the household structure Mom, dad, kids, how families are raised.
Speaker 4:And that's like the starting place of a lot of things.
Speaker 2:So I know that situation isn't always perfect for everybody by any means, but you know, I think uh, so much is deviated from. You know mom and dad aren't being healthy, doing healthy things. Kids follow their mom and dad and that, just like I think that emulates through many different topics. And if mom and dad are living the lifestyle of whatever, it starts creating kids in the same fashion.
Speaker 5:Yeah, it's my two cents.
Speaker 2:Yeah. What was the original question. Damn, I went off on a tangent. Don't you have to take your kids somewhere.
Speaker 1:Ronnie's on it.
Speaker 2:Teamwork makes the dream work.
Speaker 3:Damn, let's reload Load. We're rapid fire. I know we kind of asked some of us, we kind of swerved.
Speaker 5:Are your boys going with you? Yeah, they'll be waiting for me.
Speaker 1:They'll be working on their fitness for days.
Speaker 2:They got Chase out there.
Speaker 3:Okay, I could come up with a couple.
Speaker 2:We were just going to go rapid fire.
Speaker 3:Questions for you.
Speaker 2:Or do you have more? Do you others? No, let's go for it. I mean, I got all kinds of stuff, but I just have these because when you need talking points in a conversation, as the podcast host, it's my job to keep the conversation going, so it depends on the person. If they're really talkative group, we just roll.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know what I think is that chat gbt a big block of it. Yeah, I don't even know what I would do without it.
Speaker 3:We'll just give, we'll just ask you a couple and then we can do other questions what's your cody doing over there?
Speaker 1:is he doing oh?
Speaker 2:oh, my little homie's been sitting here.
Speaker 1:He's hanging he's dirty, he's a fat, my guys okay, are you ready?
Speaker 3:okay, what's your favorite cheat meal? Ribeye steak oh what's your favorite cheat meal? Rib eye steak, ooh.
Speaker 2:What's your favorite WOD? I'm so cliche. I don't really have one, because I love all CrossFit.
Speaker 3:What's your favorite complex movement?
Speaker 2:Thruster.
Speaker 3:What.
Speaker 4:What's your?
Speaker 3:favorite stretch. Okay, I'm just going off book here now. Anyone can jump in Roll in, roll in, roll in, roll in Favorite stretch would be the couch stretch.
Speaker 2:It's the most effective for my back and hip flexor.
Speaker 4:I thought you said couch.
Speaker 3:Couch, like where you put your leg back in the couch and you kind of lean back, stretch your quad. What's your favorite athleisure brand?
Speaker 2:Athleisure brand. It's a good one. It's for Vory, gives me the best discount.
Speaker 3:Okay, I like that. I think we're all good on Vory.
Speaker 2:I like some Lululemon, but I got fired as an influencer there because I didn't post enough.
Speaker 4:I'm still sensitive about it.
Speaker 2:But Vory's discount for people in our profession. I applaud them. It supports us and it gets us literally wearing their stuff all the time. I love it. I love Vory it's stuff all the time.
Speaker 5:I love it. Yeah, I love it. I think it's good stuff too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love that Big shout out to Vory, thank you.
Speaker 3:Okay, biker, rower Bike, all right, I can't think of any more 5 or 6 am. This is really what I wanted to come for.
Speaker 2:That's like saying Jackson or.
Speaker 3:Claire.
Speaker 2:Jackson or.
Speaker 1:Claire, I mean we. I feel like it's totally different. I know, Derek.
Speaker 3:Explain the differences we need to know, or.
Speaker 5:South or Midtown, that's another one.
Speaker 2:Well, we can get to that one too, if I had a stepkid, it'd be like trying to decide between my children and my stepchildren. It's still a little bit fucked up.
Speaker 4:You can't make that decision because you've been sharing time like you're getting to know them, yeah, so I'm gonna say this I love them all like genuinely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like it's been really cool for me to get to know that community better. I mean, they are double-edged fitness too, yeah, and it has been very cool and rewarding. It has been very cool. I've enjoyed it a lot and I love my classes here. I love all of you here. This is my home.
Speaker 1:Sarah just needs words of affirmation.
Speaker 2:I do verbal affirmation. I can't say that.
Speaker 1:I don't think you have to pick that Honestly because every class has their quirks and their community and I think they do that's what's cool about double edges? I mean, even if I jumped in at like 9am, I'm sure they would make me feel comfortable. I wouldn't want to step on anyone's rig because you know it's a pissing territory at that point. But I think like when you walk into these doors.
Speaker 4:I heard they get like like 4.30.
Speaker 1:He's very careful. I heard he kicked someone at your friend's house.
Speaker 3:He's spicy on.
Speaker 1:Monday.
Speaker 2:I know we like worked it out. But every class has its own culture, has its own vibe. Yeah, its own little. It's really cool, especially being able to be a part of all the different ones. You know 5am is a lot of fun, but I can't come in there with a heavy coaching personality and they kind of want to do what they want.
Speaker 1:So you have to be like comfortable with like hey, are you doing, lean on crack, or like at least you're happy they're here, I'm sure oh yeah, and perspective wise, a lot of them have been here since we've opened to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's're happy they're here, I'm sure, oh yeah, and perspective-wise, a lot of them have been here since we've opened too.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:They're not trying to go to the CrossFit Games, they're trying to be fit. Start their day off right. See their friends have coffee bullshit. It's a great hour, hour and a half of their day.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And they get after it. They train hard, they still get after it. Are we talking about 5 am? Yeah, yeah, they do so I think when I first took it over, I came in pretty hot and heavy as a technical coach and I started getting burnt out with them because it's like fuck you, fuck you not listening, whatever like ev's like now, it's just a daily thing for us, but, um, you know every, and this goes for any class in the gym. Any, I'm not the same coach in every single class.
Speaker 5:I kind of am chameleon to the class.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that makes sense. So you know, 6 am is a very coachable class in the sense you guys want to be coached and it's just a different vibe. Yeah, it's just a different vibe and it makes it really fun for a coach Like this goes for me, tammy and Jess. Like the back-to-back of 5 to 6 am is it a lifting of our day, like it's just so much fun, good energy, good people the whole time and it's just like this is how I start my day at work, like it's cool that's really cool and that same thing happens at south.
Speaker 2:Like the 5 am class, 6 am class are different, both in size. So if you guys know anybody that wants to go to 6 am South Reno, I'm ready for you. Definitely want more bodies in there.
Speaker 1:We like stole those two ladies from fucking South.
Speaker 2:I told Mandy I'm like really.
Speaker 1:She's been solid. They both have.
Speaker 5:They're awesome Killing it they are awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's just cool.
Speaker 5:We feel the love. We know we're your favorite. You don't have to say it.
Speaker 1:It'll help her sleep better tonight.
Speaker 4:Okay let's see.
Speaker 2:I mean as far as you do get a lot from me.
Speaker 5:I do, derek, I do.
Speaker 2:I mean any member that asks me for help. I'm going to help them.
Speaker 5:You're also receptive to my help.
Speaker 2:Sometimes my kind of coaching isn't always. It's not the most coddling.
Speaker 5:No, it's definitely not, but I think you're good for Sarah because she kind of needs like hard truth.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 4:I do.
Speaker 1:Because if I told you to eat carbs, you'd be like yeah, I'm not gonna do it.
Speaker 5:And then if derek tells you to eat carbs okay, fine I'll try dad, dad will tell you to eat the carbs.
Speaker 1:They call you dad sometimes that's fair that's fair. It's part of like daddy, but like dad no big d.
Speaker 5:No Y at the end, no, big D. Oh my gosh, you're coming full circle.
Speaker 1:What's your biggest?
Speaker 2:pet peeve in the gym. This is always a fun one.
Speaker 5:Ooh, oh, too bad, amy's not here.
Speaker 2:She'd have a leg.
Speaker 4:That'd be a long list.
Speaker 2:Me not starting workouts on time is number one for her.
Speaker 5:No, I think somebody doing the bicycle, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:That was a big one.
Speaker 1:She did not like that. No, she didn't.
Speaker 5:Maybe when somebody's in my spot. I hate to say it.
Speaker 2:Okay. I mean, you got a banner there, now and everything.
Speaker 5:But like if they know it's my spot and then they still go in my spot. I know this is very elementary.
Speaker 2:What's funny is you're like one of the most welcoming people in the gym, right.
Speaker 5:You're like hi, nice to meet you. I try, I really try to be.
Speaker 2:You have a very bubbly welcoming personality and then like this box bitch.
Speaker 1:About that spot right here, no doc Two. About that spot right here, no doc Two steps over yes, I don't really have many pet peeves.
Speaker 5:Cheaters you don't like cheaters.
Speaker 1:Oh my gosh. Thank you. Yeah, that's a pet peeve. Sometimes I look at her and I'm like what the fuck did you?
Speaker 2:just say my dad's bad jokes.
Speaker 3:Oh, Some days I'm like yeah, no.
Speaker 1:When you have to deal with them more. We're like don't cross the line. Oh yeah, she brought it CrossFit cheaters.
Speaker 4:Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you legitimately like didn't know if you did all the reps, don't put your score in.
Speaker 2:I got two. I got to deal with today because I get very sensitive over here with workouts.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and like double unders, like I have ADHD, so like sometimes I'm like so I have to count just depending on the situation. Double unders, I count in tens, so then, once I get to 10, then I go to 20. That's funny. That's a good question, I feel like, and if you've ever counted me and I legitimately didn't do all the reps, it's not because I was trying to cheat. I literally fucked up.
Speaker 5:I can't get to 30. I can't do 31, 32. I have to do 25 at a time. How does everyone count?
Speaker 2:their reps.
Speaker 3:I'm a 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Speaker 2:I can't do that.
Speaker 3:Sometimes I'll go by tens, but it'll be like 50.
Speaker 1:Yeah, If you miscount on something like 10 reps.
Speaker 5:There's a you problem.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying like that's a you, you, you, and, and I really truly think, like, at least for me, like if I was not squatting like low enough, I would want to be like told, like I want to do.
Speaker 5:I told you today yeah, I want to do, I like that.
Speaker 3:Big high rock stripe for us. There are people who were not Dude.
Speaker 1:Don't even.
Speaker 5:It was no ass to grass. That's Jenny's pet peeve.
Speaker 1:She gets worked up, I do too, there will be a workout like Chad, and we're all moving right. There's no way someone is beating me by two minutes and 30 seconds if we move in at this same ish pace. And you got a drink of water and I watched you get a drink of water this is one of the biggest like well and like, if we're on this topic thank
Speaker 1:you I just you talked about it the other day like the whole. Like I'm so glad you guys took off the number of attendance because that shit was people's, it's no longer about getting out of hand fitness.
Speaker 2:It was like real quick it got out of hand.
Speaker 1:It got out of hand like a wildfire yeah like I think that goes all back to like quality movements and doing. You know you're here for an hour training hard. You were trying to get the people that don't come enough to get their ass to the gym.
Speaker 2:Yes, and what happened is the people that train a lot are training way more 40 classes in a 24-day month class. It didn't move the. So like our attendance is up overall and I go through and like just pick out people that this person, who I know, who's, you know, maybe two days a week are they going three now, Fuck, no, but then I got Sarah going 27 times it's like the fitter getting fitter.
Speaker 5:You're OCD people, not getting broken. It hits the OCD people.
Speaker 2:And I'm like oh, the number's got to go. I'm going to organize this by first name, so you can't go through and start like nitpicking this and that. And if you want to know your number, for if you're trying to track your 200, like Andy's going to be gone for a month, so he was really cramming them in.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So he didn't want to make up and he really wants to keep. I like the committed club.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it's a solid thing for sure, but it needs to be kept in its damn bucket. Yeah, and those of you not getting in there, you need to figure it bad 5 am was doing like double days. I knew that but I didn't know. It was like four actual numbers.
Speaker 3:I thought it was because they just wanted to work out.
Speaker 5:No, they just wanted the committed higher number.
Speaker 1:That's like the other parking spaces.
Speaker 2:You try to highlight the parking spaces, and I don't even know if I'm going to keep that. Because, this is meant to recognize somebody who does a great job consistently, not somebody who's doing two classes a day all the time hitting burnout Like this is. This is not, oh yeah, One and a half yeah. Like if I see that kind of shit and it's like the goal is to find a consistent, long term, sustainable lifestyle.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And use this as a benchmark and a goal to kind of hit. I know people that genuinely collect their cards. They get they have a photo album, what and they're very proud of that.
Speaker 2:That's cute and that's cool, I know people that throw them in the trash, so it's just teach their own. But I've seen long enough. Now that you train with us three days a week, your needle's going to move and the people that have since we've opened are some of the most legit, fit, healthy human beings today that you could be around. So it works.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that is the goal of getting that going, but it was not to make some weird competitive where I'm getting text message and Instagram's like hey, this person did this, this person didn't do that.
Speaker 4:Where am I at? I need to win, damn it.
Speaker 5:Like I did not know, I opened that can of worms.
Speaker 2:I really should have thought that through a little bit, knowing some of the competitive nature, but it's just like yeah, it was a brush fire yeah.
Speaker 5:It was a brush fire yeah.
Speaker 1:You got it out pretty quickly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, had to nuke it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so we just got your pet peeve cheating. Yeah, shit, I didn't yeah, thank you.
Speaker 5:But it bothers me too sometimes.
Speaker 2:Oh, we just literally had a long conversation between us coaches at the south gym over somebody today that we saw cheating like. How are you? Gonna cheat on a jesus is watching also I didn't know how to put in like my score.
Speaker 1:So like I had a thousand 24 meters left. So how I in the score? I did a thousand divided by 60, because you're you know yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. I want to say over, like I put it, like 65 minutes and five seconds I don't even know I think if, like the clock was still scrolling, we have, since it's you against you, as long as you do it the same way next year oh right, well, I'll probably forget.
Speaker 1:I I wrote like you had this much meters left, but I was like thinking like if the clock was still going we would have done one more round of air squats, like it would have been around. Fuck, like 50, I need like 52 minutes, I think but yeah, I gotta go.
Speaker 5:My children are all texting me.
Speaker 1:I think this is great. I feel like we.
Speaker 2:Really appreciate you guys coming on.
Speaker 5:I know this is fun. I had fun.
Speaker 1:Should we just hang out on Fridays? I?
Speaker 2:need to get a fan. I can't use a fan. It's loud. I got to get something cool. This room down.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I'm hot, I'm sweating.
Speaker 2:So well, you guys got to get the hold up.
Speaker 4:Dun-dun-dun.
Speaker 3:Dun-dun-dun oh my gosh, is there like a theme song? I don't know, there it is.
Speaker 2:There's Mike Corny, it's a theme song.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 4:Give the ladies an applause.
Speaker 5:Thank you for coming on. I want to do this more. This is fun.
Speaker 3:Have us back.
Speaker 4:I know We'll come back anytime.