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Ep #115 Turning 40 & The Three Lessons That Saved My Business And Set Me Free

• Kristen Werner & Mia Steel • Episode 115

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What if the most powerful strategy you’re missing is your own brain? Mia goes solo to mark turning forty and opens up about the moment a late ADHD diagnosis flipped the script on identity, success, and how to build a business that doesn’t break you. This is a raw, practical guide to honouring your wiring, ditching shame, and designing work that funds your life instead of draining it.

We start by pulling apart the old story: the uniform, the good grades, the fear of visibility, and the burnout that followed. Then we rebuild with three anchors. First, work with your brain—name rejection sensitivity, plan for decision fatigue, and create systems that match how you actually focus. Second, rewire your mindset with language that drives action: failure as data, timeline as yours, chaos as exploration. Third, stack monthly recurring revenue so creativity has a safety net. From a tiny five-dollar community to affiliate income that paid the bills, Mia shows how memberships, retainers, and community-led offers create calm cash flow and space to experiment without constant selling.

You’ll hear how a dynamic personal brand (the “trunk”) stops the cycle of burning down and starting over, why retention beats acquisition sprints, and how to design offers that suit a neurodivergent brain craving novelty and autonomy. Expect clear examples, punchy mindset swaps, and a playbook for turning scattered ideas into a steady income engine through community, content, and smart structure.

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Are you ready to master the art of creating content that converts? Hey, I'm Mia, a mum of two who went from being a burnt out in both to six-figure content creator in West VM or getting a late ADHD diagnosis. I'm Kristen, also a mum of two, and a former corporate branding queen to an entrepreneur. My dyslexic brain sees marketing very differently, and that's my superpower. And together we're showing women like you how to master video marketing and create content that generates income. Whether you're just starting out or ready to scale, we are breaking down everything from learning brand news to building your own empire. Welcome to I Am That Content Creator Podcast, where we can scroll stuff in content into series income. No content, no flops, just real strategies from two dependent moments who get it. So let's turn the phone into a video marking routine. And let's go! Let's go.

Facing Forty And A New Chapter

Late ADHD Diagnosis Changes Everything

Leaving Paramedicine And Identity Shift

Finding Voice Through Content And Community

Reframing Failure And Mindset Language

Building An Unshakeable Personal Brand Trunk

Why Monthly Recurring Revenue Matters

Designing A Business That Fits Your Brain

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All right, welcome to I Am That Content Creator Podcast. You've got Mia all by herself today, which is really, really strange for me because usually I don't talk unless someone talks to me. So I'm finding it very unusual to sit here and speak to myself for more than five minutes because usually I'm just doing random TikToks. But hang with me, I'm sure I'll stuff up and get all weird and anxious and all the things because let's face it, it's not normal talking to yourself for, you know, 20 to 30 minutes. But let's see where this podcast is going to take me because some big shit is coming up. And by the time you're listening to this podcast, I will have turned the big 4-0, which I don't know how to feel about it, to be honest. I'm more leaning on the side of just trying to forget about it. It's just a number. I don't know why we have to make it this big thing. But then also I look at it as this milestone that holy shit, firstly, I made it to 40 after all the crazy shit that I've done in my life. So that's an effort in itself. But also, I feel like it's this beginning of a new chapter for me. In the last probably five years, I have just started to really find out who the hell I am, why I'm here, and what I actually want to do. So I'm heading into this big foro as a positive. And I think this next decade for me is going to be big. I feel like I've done so many things in the lead up to becoming 40 that now I'm ready to just launch myself into the fucking universe and just see what happens. I've got no expectations. I have learnt a lot of hard lessons up to this point, but I feel like this is just the beginning of this second life. And I'm pretty damn excited to jump into it. And, you know, YOLO, I have learned some lessons that have given me insights into things that are kind of dark and heavy, but it has made me realize how short life is. And I'm on borrowed time. I can't sit around in this life and just assume that I've got tomorrow, that I've got five years, that I've got 10, 20, 30 years left. Buckle in. Today's episode is going to be all about me turning 40 and the lessons that I have learnt. And I want to talk about the three things that has that have saved me in business and set me free and have set me up in a way where I can really launch into this decade of my life with a different lens. So buckle in, let's get chatting, and I'll just talk to myself, but I'm going to picture you on the other side of this podcast listening because some of the things that I'm going to go through today are things that I needed to hear myself a long time ago. And that's life. You know, we grow older and we realize things and we learn lessons. But sometimes if you hear it from other people who have been through it earlier on in your life, then you can start making changes and not have to go through all the mistakes that somebody else has made because they've shared their journey. So the first thing that has basically changed my life and changed the trajectory of my life is realizing that I have ADHD. If you know my story, I was diagnosed late in life at age 38.Feels like a lot longer ago, but I think I was 38. And basically that diagnosis changed everything for me. I grew up as one of those very introverted girls. I was very shy, very polite, didn't want conflict, didn't want to put anyone out. I said yes to everything. I wasn't the loudmouth. I I just didn't want to be noticed basically. Most of my life I just wanted to curl up, sit back, and watch everyone else do their thing because I didn't like any attention put on me, which is really interesting now that I look at what I'm doing in my business. Now I get myself on TikTok and these podcasts and webinars, and I put myself in front of people and they listen to me talk, which is out of this world to me. I failed one of my uni subjects because I refused to do the oral presentation because I just did not want anyone to look at me speaking. And I always really, really struggled with public speaking and the rest of it. And now that I know that I have ADHD and I know a little bit more about it, I can understand that I had visibility wounds, I had rejection sensitivity dysphoria. So being a really sensitive person, I didn't want to put myself out there because I didn't want to get rejected or I didn't want to draw any attention to myself because I would just internalize it all. And that really affected my life uh growing up because I was just never heard. I was the girl that everyone liked, that didn't cause drama, that helped, that didn't ask for help myself. Um and I think many doing that for many, many years kind of got me to a point in life where I was just so anxious and so overwhelmed. And when I got to the point where I just couldn't do that anymore was when my life completely changed. So finding out that I had ADHD has really um brought me out of my shell and made me realize that I wasn't broken, I wasn't doing life wrong, I was just wired differently, and I wasn't supposed to follow everybody else's rules. And when I figured that out, it was like this light shining from the heavens saying to me or giving me permission to just do whatever the fuck that I wanted to do. And everyone else's opinions of me just didn't matter. And having a brain that is wired differently wasn't my fault. And as I go through this whole ADHD diagnosis and realization, I'm starting to begin that maybe everyone else has the problem and not me. So if you know my story, I was a paramedic for a long time and a nurse, and you know, I did all the right things. I got good grades and I went to uni and had the kids and white picket fence and we're about to build a house and all the rest of it. And I think having kids when you have ADHD or didn't know it at the time, you get overwhelmed really, really easily. I'm talking like just deciding what to wear or just deciding what's for dinner or feeling out of form or these everyday things that kind of seem easy to most people overwhelm the shit out of me. And so I think when I had kids, I was just like, I just can't do this. I am so overwhelmed. How the hell am I supposed to go to a job as a paramedic, save people's lives when I am just completely wigging out? So after my second baby, I was due to go back on road the very next day, and I just completely flipped out and I just couldn't do it. So I rang up and I quit, and that was the beginning of um this life that I call now, which has given me so much freedom and so much happiness, and I'm so glad that I made that decision. But I think for me, it took me getting to complete burnout and complete desperation before I actually did something. Now, looking back, I wish I knew I had ADHD a long, long time ago because perhaps I wouldn't have gotten to that point where I had to do something so dramatic and I would have perhaps led a different life. But I am where I am and I've learned the lessons because that's just my story. And so when I quit my job as a paramedic, it really forced me to figure out who I was because when I was a paramedic and a nurse, that was my identity. I had the uniform, this was my job. When people asked me, hey, what do you do? I'm a nurse, I'm a paramedic. And you just put that uniform on and it just becomes your whole identity. And when that was taken away, and I had nothing, I really had to figure out, okay, where am I right now? Who am I? What am I supposed to do? Why am I here? And I always had this really deep seated feeling in me that I was supposed to do something. Supposed to do something big, I was put on this planet for a reason. And I sort of just thought that being a paramedic, maybe that was it. I was supposed to help people, I was supposed to save lives, I was supposed to be, you know, that person that people went to for help, and that was why I was put here. But when that was taken away, I really had to figure out okay, maybe that wasn't it, because it never really lit me up. I had fun and I saw a lot of things and I did a lot of things, and that was great, but part of me was missing inside. I always felt very shallow and hollow, and I I just I couldn't figure out what was missing in my life, and I kept searching. I was always, always searching. And although I don't think I'm at the point in my life now where I have a hundred percent found it, I still feel like I'm in that searching phase. But before I became an entrepreneur and went into this business world, I always felt like there was something missing from my life, and I just couldn't find it. And then when I found out I had ADHD, you know, as fate had it, I started creating content and I got really light lit up about it, and I was discovering who I was and I was finding my voice, and I was beginning to be okay with putting myself out there. And in that journey, I figured out that hey, I think really different to a lot of people. And in my prior life, the people around me were very neurotypical, very straight down the line. This is how you do life, this is what we do. And I never had the chance to speak to other people who thought the same as me. So I thought I was the one that was unusual and weird. But when I broke into this creative world of entrepreneurship and content and just being creative, I started to find other people who were thinking the same as me. And then I realized, okay, this is sounding like I have a bit of neurodivergence here, I'm gonna look into it. And then it just snowballed into this diagnosis and me basically finding out, you know, why I think the way that I think. And that was such a pivotal moment for me. And although I felt very um nervous and I gaslit myself, and I was thinking when I was going through the diagnosis process, I was thinking, you're an idiot. Like, why do you want a label? This isn't you, you don't have ADHD. What are you going on about? This is absolutely ridiculous. But when I was speaking to the psychologist and the psychiatrist and other people who had ADHD, it really confirmed that nay, darling, you've got it, and that's okay. And let's get you some help. And you know, I started to educate myself on how my brain works. And I can't believe I just ignored my brain for so so long. I was just fighting it constantly. Just, and I think that's why I got so burnt out because I was trying so fucking hard to be normal or be neurotypical, and it was just draining me, and I couldn't figure out why I couldn't just do life like everyone else. And so understanding my brain and how that works and leaning into my neurodivergence and how I think just gave me this incredible sense of freedom that I've never experienced before. And although I struggled with my visibility wounds and putting myself out there and building a personal brand, because all of a sudden I wasn't the paramedic anymore, I was actually Mia, and this was really uncomfortable. But doing that just gave me this ticket to go with my brain and see where it led me. And I really, really enjoy the process of doing this now because before I felt trapped. I knew there was something different, I knew there was something going on. I I just couldn't figure it out. But now I'm like, ah, right. Well, in that case, everything's changed, and I'm just gonna do whatever the fuck I want because there is no point fighting my brain on this because my brain is not gonna change, and the world around me is not going to change for me. So I just need to do what I need to do. And so that is one of the biggest life lessons that I have learned is understanding how your brain works and going with it. And stop, you know, you just gotta stop trying to fit in with the world around you because someone told you to, or you think that's what you should do, because you're just setting yourself up for failure, overwhelm, burnout, anxiety, nervous breakdown, all of it. So this is not to say that if you don't have ADHD, you know, you shouldn't just do what you want. Just figure out what it is that lights you up. If you have done the uni degree and you've got the career and you just keep on keeping on, but there's something inside you that is telling you that something's not right, or you want more, or there has to be a better way, or there has to be more to this life, follow it. Stop trying to push it down, ignore it, chuck it under the rug, and just get on with life because that's what everyone else does. You have to get curious about your brain and how it works. Because what is the point of living a life that was never really meant for you? It's like, what is the point of that? That that's just depression. It's becoming a person that is not you. And so I really encourage you to sit down and really dig deep on the things that you want and your beliefs and the way you feel about things and stop trying to suppress that to please other people around you. Because when it comes down to it, everyone else around you is too worried about their own life to care about what you're doing. And trying to conform is doing no one a favor. Because if you've got kids and family and a partner and all of all the rest of that, if you're feeling flat and like there's something missing, then you're not going to be the best mum or the best partner or the best daughter or the best sister that you can possibly be because you're just locked up in this tiny world that you feel like you can't get out, and that's not living. So, lesson one is really go deep and try and figure out how your brain works and stop trying to fight it because of the way society is. Explore that feeling. I'm not saying do what I did and just completely kill your career, quit your job, sell the house, and jump in a caravan, because that's what we did, because I I do things, you know, all or nothing. But don't be afraid to explore how your brain works. And this leads me to the second lesson that I've learned is changing your mindset, changing the way you perceive your life and think about things. And instead of shaming yourself and feeling like the victim and comparing the way you want to do things to other people is it was just an absolute game changer for me because the way that other people live their lives and the way that other people think, it's not me. And so, why should I try and follow the way that they're thinking and the way that they're living their lives if it's just not meant for me? And so changing your mindset is really, really important. And flipping those negatives, which are perceived as negatives into positives is gonna really help you, especially if you're on a business journey, because 80% of business and entrepreneurship is mindset. 20% is strategy and do this, this, this, and this, and you'll get this result. It's 80% mindset. And so if you don't change your mindset, you're gonna find it really, really hard to succeed because it's physics and energy. If if you are consistently down on yourself and criticizing yourself and shaming yourself and comparing yourself, how the fuck are you gonna succeed? That's that's not the picture of success. And success looks different to everyone. My success would look very, very different to yours and the next person and the next person. And so my mindset used to be success was getting the house and getting the good career and ticking all the boxes. And because I was trying to force myself into that, my mindset was I'm failing, I'm shit, why is it so hard for me? How come I can't do this? Um, I'm behind everyone else. And so the minute that I changed my mindset and made up my own rules, everything changed and the success started to come when I let go of that negative shaming. I'm just gonna slide in here and give you some language change prompts for you, just so you can understand what I talk about when I say change your mindset and your language. So usually you might say to yourself, I can't focus. No, no, no. I focus differently and intensely on what matters to me. You might say to yourself, I'm so scattered. No, no, no, I'm exploring multiple opportunities. I failed again. No, I am collecting data on what actually works. I always procrastinate. No, I work best under certain conditions. I'm behind everyone else. No, I'm on my timeline. My own timeline. I should be further along. No, I'm exactly where I need to be to learn this lesson. I'm not ready. Uh-uh. I'm ready enough to just start. I don't know what I'm doing. Mm-mm. I'm figuring it out as I go. I'm too distracted. No, I'm gathering inspiration from multiple sources. This is too hard. This is challenging me to grow. I'm not disciplined enough. No. I'm building systems that work for my brain. I keep starting and stopping. I'm iterating until I find what sticks. I'm a mess. No, I'm a work in progress. I can't compete with them. Uh-uh. I just bring something unique that they can't replicate. And so the mindset, you probably hear this a lot with really successful entrepreneurs, that the way you think is going to be the difference between success and failure, basically. And I don't like the word failure. Um, I always say to our members inside our community that you're failing forward. It's not a failure. You're collecting data points and all these little lessons. And basically, you can't succeed if you don't fail, because how the hell are you gonna know what success is if you don't experience failure first? So changing my mindset was a big one. And I used to think when I got into this entrepreneurial world, I used to think that I was never gonna succeed and things were never gonna work out for me because I couldn't stick to anything. I had all these ideas and I kept chopping and changing, and I just I would start a business and tell everyone about it, and then a few weeks later or a few months later, I'd be onto something else. And I got really embarrassed telling people what I was up to because I felt like they were looking at me like, oh, what are you doing now? What what business idea have you got now? And so when I changed my mindset into I I was just I was creating little tiny experiments all over the place. It was almost like I was creating these little micro businesses, trying to figure out what I liked to do, what worked, what didn't work, how does this business work? And knowing now that I've got ADHD, people with ADHD have a really, they're really good at seeing patterns and putting pieces of the puzzle together and seeing the bigger picture. And so when I flipped my mindset to, I'm just collecting all these little pieces of the puzzle and putting it all together and building this dynamic personal brand, which is what we talk about. And it actually ended up being the best thing ever because it created something where I didn't have to go and burn everything down every time I saw a shiny object or wanted to test something out or try this or try that. Because I created this trunk that was just getting stronger and stronger and stronger. Every time I had a little failure, or I pivoted, or I did this, or I did that, it was building my trunk that ultimately is unbreakable because you can't copy someone's trunk and all those little failures build up to this thing where even if I was to pivot right now, I know I can make money. I know how to make money. I would just do something with all of those little failures that I've collected along the way. So if you're like me and you have a million one ideas, change your mindset from I'm flaky, I can't stick to anything, I'm behind, yada yada, yada. No, no, no, I'm just on my own timeline. I'm collecting data points, I'm testing things, I'm figuring out what I like and what I don't like. And it's almost like all of these little micro lessons build up to something that becomes unshakeable. And so before I changed the way I thought, every new pivot or every new, every new business idea, I felt like I just had to burn to the ground, delete all the social accounts, delete the website, and just start again from fresh. And then I thought that was the failure because people kept seeing me fail at all these business ideas. So really start talking to yourself like a person who is testing. That's all you're doing. You're testing. And sure, there's people out there who pick one business and they love it and it's their life and they couldn't imagine doing anything else and it's working for them. Brilliant, perfect. That works for a lot of people. But if you have a mind like mine where I'm constantly wanting to see what's next or try new things, every little experiment is not a failure. And you don't have to burn everything down in your path to finding success. Because failure is success in my mind. So, mindset massive. You need to speak to yourself in a way that you would speak to your best friend. If you saw your best friend failing at all these little business ideas and fluffing around, would you say to her, What the fuck are you doing? Like, just stick to something. You're an idiot. Like, why do you keep chopping and changing? No. You would be like, hey, like, cool. Tell me about your new idea. Like, I'd love to hear about it. Oh, the other one didn't work out. Oh well, that's all right. Just try again. Like, who cares? Start talking to yourself like you would your best friend if you're watching her from afar. Now, number three in the life lessons that I've learned in my time is not only building that personal brand, that dynamic personal brand that is your trunk, you know, you're collecting all these data points along the way, is monthly recurring revenue. I cannot get past it. Especially if you are neurodivergent and you have all these ideas and you know, it becomes really hard for you to stick to one thing and do the same thing over and over and over and over again. The monthly recurring revenue for me, I don't think I would, I don't know. I don't even know if I would still be in business if I didn't focus on it because it is the one thing that has given me regular income. I don't think I've had a zero dollar day in three, three and a half, four years. It has given me space to breathe and actually test my ideas. Because if I had a business where I solely relied on one-off sales consistently, I would burn out. I will probably get into that shame spiral where I'm not making any money, I'm a failure. Like, what the fuck am I doing? So this monthly recurring revenue gave me time and space and the breathing room to actually test more ideas and figure out what works and what doesn't work without relying on one-off sales consistently. And so I learned this on, I learned this fairly early-ish on when I began building my personal brain. I started out with user-generated content and that was one-off. And I had clients, and once that job finished, I had to go and search for another one. And I did find that really tiring. And I began to realize, like, hey, a lot of people are asking me about how to do this. And wouldn't it be great if I had this community and I had all these women inside this community, and they just paid me every month to teach them, and you know, we would share ideas, and it would just give me that breathing room to have money coming in while I find the next client or while I test another idea. And my very first taste of monthly recurring revenue, I started this$5 a month UGC community. And people came in and they were paying me$5 a month every month. And although it was very, very low ticket, it just opened my eyes to hey, I didn't have to go and find new people this month or next month because they're still here paying me every month. And obviously, people drop off and come in, and you know, there's retention and all that kind of stuff. But I was like, well, okay. And then Stan Store was actually where it really sunk in because I became an affiliate for Stan Store, and all these UGC creators were, you know, asking me what I what programs I was using, and Stan had an affiliate program that paid you every month for every referral. And for a long time, my Stan Store referrals were paying for bills every single month without fail. And they're still I'm still getting Stan Store referrals now. So as you can imagine, it sort of opened my eyes to like, oh shit, right, okay. So I need to make my business model based around monthly recurring revenue. Because as someone with ADHD and who is a mum, and who, you know, at the time my partner got sick and he was in hospital and we were traveling around, and you know, when you when your kids get a bit older, you're like you've got school holidays and you just don't know what life is going to throw at you. And so when you focus on monthly recurring revenue and building that and stacking that over time, holy mother of God, you can switch off for weeks and still have money come in. Kristen and I, we basically did nothing over the school holidays, over the six weeks of school holidays, and money was still coming in every single month. And I could choose if I wanted to do some extra UGC jobs or not, because the money was still there. And so that really opened my eyes to how I could build a business that gave me true freedom, the freedom that I saw as success. Because before all this, you know, the businesses that I tried, some of them, you know, were product-based. And so if I didn't make the sales, there was no money coming in. And I had to be at home making the orders, packing the orders, sending the orders. Like it didn't give me any location freedom as well. And so this realization that monthly recurring revenue was gonna be the path that I took because it gave me the most freedom was one of the best lessons I've ever learned. And I will say this till the day I die that having some kind of monthly recurring revenue in your business is gonna be that thing that saves your ass. And the way the world is moving at the moment, very, very quickly, you don't know what's gonna happen. And if you're putting all your eggs in one basket and same with social media too, like your TikTok account could be taken away tomorrow, or your ads account could be shut down tomorrow. And then where are all your sales coming from? But if you've got this monthly recurring income and a community, it just becomes this kind of cheat code for bringing in money every single month. And it gives you time to bring more people in because people do leave, and you feel like you don't have to sell all the time. I hate selling, I really hate it. It just feels really uncomfortable, and obviously you have to do it and you have to get comfortable with it, but the continuous selling to me, I just can't sustain that. Um, it's just not my personality. And you know, you'll hear the big gurus say, You have to sell, you gotta be selling all the time, all the time, all the time. Yeah, that's true if you're selling well enough products, but if you're setting yourself up with this monthly recurring revenue, it's fucking brilliant. It's almost like investing. Like you put in and the money is kind of just working for you. It's building over time and it's coming in on autopilot. So they're the three big lessons that I've learned over the far past, you know, probably five years that has changed my trajectory. And this is the kind of stuff that we teach inside our community too. A lot of mindset, a lot around setting up your business in a way that works with your brain and not against it, and like the monthly recurring revenue. We have money coming in every single month from our community, but we still are able to have enough energy to go and test our new ideas or validate different things that we're trying to do. And with an ADHD brain, that's fucking fantastic because I am constantly seeking dopamine and looking for new excitement and trying new things. And that business model for us is just being an absolute game changer, and whatever business I start in the future, it will always, always have a focus on monthly recurring revenue. Now, if you're still with me, I'm gonna drop a little bit of a live event that is coming up. We'll have all the links to it in the show notes, but we are doing another live event, a two-day live event on the 17th and 19th of February. So if you're listening to this before we do it, the link to sign up to the live event will be in the show notes. Basically, what we're doing is day one is we're going to be talking about all of this stuff with you live in the room, showing you how to channel your chaos and all of your ideas and all of your, I don't know what how to call it. Like just sometimes when you're in business, it just everything just feels messy, it's all over the place, got so much stuff going on. We just teach you how to channel that into one thing that brings you that monthly recurring income but allows you to A, live, B, take some time off without your business going to shit, C, test and validate new ideas that come to you without feeling that shame of, oh my God, I'm flaky, I'm just chasing another shiny object. And C run it in a way that lights you up and that allows you to be creative and try new things and create a business where you're not basically just building walls around yourself and creating yourself another nine to five job. So come along. That day one will be really that learning and us showing you exactly how to do it, exactly how we've created multiple six figures doing exactly what we're gonna teach you. And then day two on the 19th, we're gonna be jumping in with you doing a live coaching session. So free coaching from me and Kristen. We'll be doing hot seats, we'll be asking you about your business, your ideas, and how you can channel that into a business that lights you the fuck up. So we're really excited about this, and we're gonna be doing some really fun things. And if you've been to one of our live launches before, our live events before, you'll probably notice that every one is kind of different. And a lot of the neurotypical marketing advice is to choose one thing, do it again, do it over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. And we've tried that, and sure, it works, but not for our brain. So every time we do a live launch, there's something different, and there's different aspects to it and different ways we do it, and different creative things that we bring into it, and we'll be teaching you how to do that too. So head to Stray Nights, sign up, get on the wait list, we'll be emailing you, and also if you're not in our free community, why the fuck aren't you in there? We've got a free section of our community, we've got lots of multi-brilliant creators in there testing out their ideas, and it's just a beautiful spot to be in because everyone gets each other. There's no shaming in here, there's no neurotypical linear, you know, rules and strategies. It's a place where you can come in and not be judged by trying something new and doing all those tiny little experiments that is eventually going to lead you to something that is so rock solid that it's basically impossible to quit because we base our teachings and our method around you. You're the center, you're the trunk, and you cannot quit being you. You can quit a side hustle, you can quit a job, but this is setting you up to have that foundation that is just unshakeable. It doesn't matter if one of your experiments doesn't go right. It just doesn't matter. So come along. We're really excited. We love, love, love doing live launches. I mean, we've had life launches go for two hours and we're just still yapping away and people are still hanging around. So come along to that. And yeah, I hope those life lessons that I've learned over the past few years help you in your journey. And drop us a line. If you want to come on our podcast and talk to us about what you're doing or your successes or anything, or you want us to speak about a particular topic on the podcast, give us a holla. But I'm gonna sign out and I'm gonna go start being 40 now because that's that's where I'm at at the moment. So have fun, keep testing, don't shame yourself, change your mindset. There are so many people out there that think exactly the same as you. And don't let society or other people's opinions stop you from doing what lights you up. Follow your brain. You don't know where it's going to take you, and usually it's gonna be way more epic than if you just stay in one lane and do what you're told.

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All right, peace out. So many good ones too.