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Find What Moves You and Build A Life Around It | Lisa Banks

Jeff Ford & Kendra Till Season 1 Episode 108

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Some people walk into a room and the energy lifts without any effort. That’s Lisa Banks, and after our conversation I’m convinced her positivity isn’t just “how she is” it’s a choice she makes, shaped by what she’s lived through and what she wants to give back.

Lisa has spent 20+ years in the fitness industry, coaching everything from strength training and cycle to barre, aquafitness, and golf fitness at Palmetto Bluff. We talk about where that versatility comes from, why continuing education matters (including pain-free performance fundamentals), and what she’s learned from coaching wildly different groups. If you’ve been stuck in a rut, you’ll hear a simple truth: consistency gets easier when you find movement you actually enjoy, then build smart variety around it.

We also go deeper into purpose and health. Lisa shares the personal story behind her breast cancer awareness workout, how losing her mom to stage four triple negative breast cancer changed the way she shows up, and why prevention habits and early detection deserve a place in everyday wellness. We connect the dots between fitness and holistic health: endorphins, stress management, community, faith, and the kind of life you’re training to live.

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Welcome And Meet Lisa Banks

SPEAKER_00

Are you ready to live an active lifestyle? Welcome to Behind the Bluff, where we believe every moment of your life is an opportunity to pursue wellness on your terms. Today's guest is someone who brings both depth and heart to coaching. Lisa Banks has spent over 20 years in the fitness industry with experience across strength training, cycling, aquafitness bar, and our coveted golf fitness. Before joining us at Palmetto Bluff, she served as the fitness and aquatics director at Savannah Quarters. She led programs and built community through movement. Same as she does today. What makes Lisa special isn't just her versatility, it's how she shows up for people from leading classes to creating meaningful events like her recent breast cancer awareness workout on our very own Village Green. Her impact, it just goes so much further than fitness. Lisa, I'm excited for people to hear about your story and your approach to coaching. Welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_01

Thanks, Jeff. It's an honor to be here. Super stoked.

SPEAKER_00

I'm so glad we can make this happen. You lead a steady schedule here. You already had a couple of personal trainings, a class, and here we are in the podcast room.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I'm loving it. I'm super thankful to be here at Palmetto Bluff. It's been such a blessing. I've learned so much. And I'm just thankful for you as my boss.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, well, thanks, Lisa. I I can just honestly say unequivocally, we are so much stronger with you on the team on your on our team, the diversity that you bring, and uh just the positive energy. So I'm excited to make sure that those who don't know you get to learn a little bit more about you today.

unknown

Thank you.

Camp Life And Fitness Roots

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Uh so how did you get into fitness and what's kept you in it all these years?

SPEAKER_01

Well, Jeff, I think the first thing that got me into fitness was growing up immersed in camp life. So I lived on Lookout Mountain as a child, and every summer I either worked in a local camp or attended a camp. And those camps were full of adventure from kayaking to canoeing to ropes courses and lifeguarding. Um my childhood was packed with joyful, adventurous movement. So fun. My parents also were very active and we would walk on the brow, on the mountain brow, like often.

SPEAKER_00

What is a mountain brow? Sorry, real quick for clarification.

SPEAKER_01

So um on Lookout Mountain, it's just the edge of the mountain. So we would, we were, we lived close by, and so we would just walk out and just walk or jog just on that beautiful landscape.

SPEAKER_00

Sounds epic.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Yeah. Um, but what has kept me in fitness for all these years, I have to say, I chose exercise science as my degree. So I kind of get paid to exercise. Originally, um, I was gonna go into physical therapy, but then I met my husband, fell in love, and had three amazing, beautiful daughters. And then I decided to stay home with them for about 10 years. And then when my daughter was three, I returned to work and started at the YMCA.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. And you were at the YMCA prior to Savannah quarters? Yes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And then soon after that, I ended up getting personal trainer certified and then into group fitness. And then I haven't stopped since. So just fell in love with exercise.

SPEAKER_00

Very cool. Now, was there a moment in your life where you realized you were meant to be in this industry?

The Client Transformation That Stuck

SPEAKER_01

I have to say, there wasn't one specific moment, but there's been so many experiences that have confirmed that I was in the right place at the right time with the right people. So um, one that stands out specifically is when I first started at the YMCA, I met a lady named Janet.

SPEAKER_00

Janet.

SPEAKER_01

She was one of my first clients, and we spent so many hours together, including working out right next to The Rock, which was super cool.

SPEAKER_00

The rock, like the actor, the former wrestler, Dwayne Johnson.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, you got it. So it was funny, she didn't know that he was in the room, but I was um staring at him. But super fun. So we spent so many times, so many hours working out together. And in the process, I got to know her so deeply and her story so deeply. Um, so now today, she's not just a former client, but she's a dear friend. And in the process, she lost 65 pounds during our time together. But more importantly, she transformed her life. She grew in her career and in her faith. And watching that type of transformation really reminds me what I love to do with so many other people. There's so many more stories.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. That moment and that transformation of all the time spent and her commitment to creating a change in her life and you supporting her the whole way that that had to be inspiring for you to continue in this field and keep impacting people.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, I definitely agree. And it really is more than just fitness, it really is seeing that human and valuing that person.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I'm excited to talk more about that today because you have this superpower of connecting with people and bringing joy into people's lives. And I am a big believer that our faith takes us where we're supposed to go. And the more we lean into that and can share that with other people, the the greater positivity not only comes to that person, but transformation can happen, like you've already described. Now, were there any other moments in your career that have impacted you to keep going, to keep uh staying with fitness?

SPEAKER_01

The cool thing was just growing in the YMCA and the the more clients I had and the more classes I began to teach, um just kind of led me into that next stage and phase of personal training. And, you know, I went from personal training and then being fitness coordinator and then adding more gyms to my um resume, and then also turning going from manager and then to director. And so it just kind of kept leading me to that next door, and I just kept walking through them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. More responsibility and changing more people's lives.

SPEAKER_01

More people, too. And I've really realized that it's just so fun with the variety of people that I have too.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. Here at Palmetto Bluff, the diversity of not only fitness levels, but people and the personalities that we're we're able afforded to be able to train and be part of their lives is extremely special.

SPEAKER_01

And I have learned so much from my clients, so so much. So I I really value um just their impact on me too, not just it's it's it's it's both.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. The trainer-client relationship, it's it's deep. It's it's more than fitness. And so I'd love to get there in a little bit.

Versatility And Lifelong Learning

SPEAKER_00

Let's talk about the power of your versatility. Yeah, I remember, you know, our initial conversations, you know, you were thinking about a change and Paul Meadow Bluff uh seemed like it might be a good fit for you. Uh, I always commend you for the commute that you have to get here. So, so proud that um you uh make that every day uh for our team, for our members. And what attracted me most to you as a teammate is how interested you are in so many different formats and your ability to teach these different formats. So golf fitness, aqua to strength training, just watching you use the sled and all the different modalities that you know how to put into play when it comes to fitness is is very motivating to me. What's the mindset behind being so versatile, Lisa?

unknown

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Well, honestly, I think it's just my per part of my personality. Um technically, I'm a type 7 enthusiast on the Enneagram test, which just um which just means that I love to have fun and try new things. So I really do think that it's kind of ingrained in me.

SPEAKER_00

You're always trying new things.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, really enjoy. Love having first with people, and um that that is just interests me. So I think another part also comes from just longevity. I've been in this career my whole life. I started out studying at 18, went into exercise science, and I've stayed in that specific field my entire life. So along the way, it's brought just so many different opportunities and experiences and certification. So um I've simply just kept walking through those doors.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. You you are the type of person who seeks out new education. And just recently, Kirsten and yourself are now pain-free performance specialists. Yes. So good.

SPEAKER_01

Such a great um certification. I learned so much about those six foundational movements.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm so glad that uh we've all had the opportunity to learn from Dr. John Russin and I've seen that integration that that you're almost not almost, but right out of the gates, starting to apply those different approaches. So what have you learned about people from coaching so many different types of classes?

SPEAKER_01

And real quick, and on that too, super thankful for Pellmetal Bless that they invest in in us as employees and just allow us to go and get certified in these specialties. And it not only enhances me as a trainer, but the members are benefited as well. And I'm just super thankful that a company would invest in me like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I appreciate that pause. It it it is so encouraging for us uh having the opportunity to work here that there is an investment in us as people and it it uh trickles over to our programming.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, and I think that's part uh that's because of you, Jeff, too.

SPEAKER_00

Oh well, thank you.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, so thank you for that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you're very welcome.

SPEAKER_01

So going back

What Different Groups Teach A Coach

SPEAKER_01

to your question there, um so coaching, so many different types of classes.

SPEAKER_00

Tell tell tell me how you have learned from people and in the ways that by teaching these different classes have given you an outlook.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. Okay, so I've learned something unique from every group that I've had the chance to coach. So from my seniors, I've learned wisdom and perspective. From my classic rock crew, well um I have well and appreciated um classic rock music. From my models, I've learned to sculpt um with Pilates and Bar. From my 30 and 40 year olds, I've learned about motherhood and hard work. From my strength classes, I've seen grit and sweat and perseverance. From my PE students, I've learned how to stay playful. And then from my fitness community as a whole, I've experienced true friendship and connection.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. Yeah. I I love how you pinpointed the different specifics based off these different, not only classes, but people and archetypes that are out there in the fitness world. Yeah. Now, let's get into the impact on members a little bit more.

Why Variety Builds Consistency

SPEAKER_00

I've always been a believer that you cannot get stuck in a rut with your fitness routine. And trying new things and being open to new things is extremely important for your ability to continue with your workouts. So I'm wondering from you, Lisa, do you think variety helps people stay consistent long term? And can you add detail to that?

SPEAKER_01

Sure. Absolutely. Honestly, I really do think that versatility helps. Variety is the spice of life. And I think it plays a huge role in long long-term consistency. So as a trainer, when each when I train each of my clients, my goal is to think through all their major muscle groups and incorporate exercises that strengthen each one. And then some that are as a whole as well. But beyond that, what I want people to discover movement that they will actually enjoy, whether that's a specific exercise, a sport, or a class, because if they enjoy it, Jeff, they're gonna much more likely stick with it for their whole life. Yeah. And psychology supports if people like something, they're gonna keep doing it. So I just want to keep people active for their whole life so they can be fit for life, so they can really enjoy life to the fullest.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Yeah. So we've got to enjoy fitness, what we're actually doing, so that we can enjoy everything else. Yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's a huge difference.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, I couldn't be, I couldn't agree more,

Breast Cancer Class And Purpose

SPEAKER_00

Lisa. Let's go into switching gears about purpose and impact. I think through just our time together, you're a very purpose-driven person, and we all get that from different sources in our world. Could you tell our audience today about breast cancer awareness class that you created and why it meant so much to you?

SPEAKER_01

Um, I have to say, Jeff, that my passion for breast cancer awareness came from a very personal, became very personal in 2008 when my mom was diagnosed with stage four triple negative breast cancer. So really tough pill to swallow, right? Your mom gets cancer. It's like the worst news ever. And so that was way back in 2008. And I, Jeff, I remember the day when we went and we we went to the hospital, and that was the day she was gonna get her cancer taken out. And on that day, um, my girls and I we made breast cancer cookies, ribbon cookies that we traditionally make every October. But we just wanted to bring some sunshine to the nurses and the doctors that were helping us. So my thought is um creating a class is a way to bring survivors, hope, and encouragement to them. And I love the idea of just bringing women together in a fun and high energy, very pink environment. Um, all to honor my mom, but to really um push forward toward the future, to the future generations, the message. Um, and there's meaning behind it too, because exercise has been shown to reduce several types of cancer, including breast cancer. Um, so I would definitely say I enjoyed the the event here at Palmetto Glass. It was beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, great pictures, the pink mats, huge turnout, drinks, um, just beautiful landscape.

SPEAKER_01

It was just so cool. Just but um I've ever since she attained had that cancer, I wanted to do something.

SPEAKER_00

So um it was always put kind of on your heart. Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_01

So kind of walked through those doors. So I would do that in my other clubs just on um as well, just get the ladies together, talk about breast cancer during our class, or have a speaker. This year we had a speaker that came in.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, shout out to Dr. Tad Beaker, one of our members here.

SPEAKER_01

That's right. Super informative and helpful um for prevention. But I have I also had the privilege of doing Live Strong program at the YMCA. And that's a cancer recovery program. And I was able to walk alongside survivors as they work to rebuild their strength post-cancer. So hearing their stories and guiding them through exercise after cancer was ex extremely meaningful.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And I was getting a little emotional when you were describing just that day that they were removing the cancer from your mom and the cookies that you and your girls created. And it's those, it's that level of thoughtfulness when we go through difficult times like you have that can impact folks in a positive way in the future. And in those moments, it's hard to know that that may be what comes of that challenging situation in our lives. And I just, you know, commend you for being strong and and also being that thoughtful, even though you were going through difficult pain in that moment. Yeah, and just to hear more about how you've had this purpose, not just here at Palmetto Bluff, but throughout your career, it uh it almost gets me excited right now to say, okay, Lisa, what's next? What can we do to drive this message home that taking care of ourselves, you know, we can never fully be in complete control of our health, but checking the boxes of what we can do uh does go a long way. So you you may have hit this already, but I'd love for you to share how has your mom's experience shaped the way you show up as a coach.

Prevention Mindset And Holistic Health

SPEAKER_01

After my mom passed from breast cancer, um, it became a major life goal of mine to do everything I can to reduce my risk as a woman. Um, it also gave me the desire to just inform, educate, and encourage other women to take proactive steps, whether that's prevention or early detection, because early detection is key. Things like fueling our bodies with nutritious food, reducing environmental toxins, managing stress, and just staying active can play a role in lowering that risk. So that became my goal. Like I just wanted to do anything that I could to reduce my risk because really it just it um it's difficult to be aware of um just trying to be cancer free.

SPEAKER_00

Like there's there's so many toxins, so many factors that could could impact a cancer diagnosis.

SPEAKER_01

But we can do what what we can do. So I I just make it an active part of my life to um to make those small decisions that hopefully will add up to that cancer prevention for me.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's good. And it allows you to be a role model for everyone that you work with.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, yes. And I want to pass that on to them too, big time.

SPEAKER_00

Now you and I are on the same page, you know. I I think we have some some deeper conversations outside of fitness. And so I'm wondering if you could share with our listeners today what role does fitness play beyond just the physical?

SPEAKER_01

But I have to say, I don't think it's gonna be the answer that you're gonna have to say. Okay, but I have to say I love the endorphins. Um, if I'm upset, I can go for a walk. If I'm stressed, I can breathe and practice mindfulness. If I feel weak, I can work before um toward becoming stronger. Um, and movement just makes me feel good. Um, I also have to say that um I do believe that we are fearfully and wonderfully made. And just like we were talking before the podcast, like I really do feel like our bodies are so intricate and beautiful, and they work together so perfectly, and we are stewards of our bodies. And so to make that part of our rhythm. But I will say it's also not the only thing to uh to physical health, is our physical bodies. You know, there's a lot more that goes into the spiritual side of it as well. I have to say, fitness truly has been one of my saving graces. Um, I've experienced a lot of loss in my family. And through leaning into my faith, my family, my friends, and exercise, I've been able to keep moving forward. So if I think of it, I think of it as holistic health. It's not just about looking a certain way anymore. It's it's about asking what kind of life do I want to live? And do I want it to be centered around doctor visits and prescriptions and fast food and watching TV from the sidelines? Or do I want a life that's fully lived, one um filled with meaningful experiences and things that bring real joy? So that's what I'm looking for.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great angle. Taking care of the physical allows us to get the most out of life. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It enhances it. I'm I am sold on exercise and eating healthy, and it just really does enhance your life. The quality of life is just better.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Endorphins are hard to describe too. I think you did a fabulous job right there of the inner feeling that we get after a hard workout and what that brings to our emotions, what that brings to us showing up as good people in our relationships. And it's so much broader, and it can sometimes be chalked up to, you know, I just had a hard workout when in reality, taking care of your body is what we're meant to do. And by taking care of our bodies, it trickles over to every other aspect of life.

unknown

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, I've I've enjoyed the conversation so far,

Rapid Fire Favorites And Routines

SPEAKER_00

Lisa. I want to switch into our rapid fire round so that everyone can get to know you as a trainer, get a little inside look at you in a quick way. What is your favorite class to teach?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, I have three of them. Okay. We've got golf fitness, bar, and I have to say cycle strength.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. You know, I am not surprised that the versatility queen chose three versus one. Uh, I do love having the order now, though, from a scheduling perspective. Kendra and I can make sure you're in your sweet spot. Tell us favorite strength movement.

SPEAKER_01

Favorite strength movement would be probably a deadlift. I love a good deadlift. Um, going nice and heavy on the hamstrings and the glutes. Um, and glutes are our biggest muscle. So if we strengthen that one, it's gonna burn a lot of energy for us. And um, it it's just that's it, just will add a lot of strength to my physical body.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. Balance later in life. If your legs aren't strong, you're gonna be in trouble. Follow up question on the deadlift dumbbells, straight bar, or trap bar, if you had to choose.

SPEAKER_01

I would probably have to say I like the trap bar.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Um, I like the trap bar because it just really um surrounds your. Whole body with that weight, so it gives a good balance.

SPEAKER_00

Very safe way to load, no doubt. Uh, so third question: what's your go-to pump-up song?

SPEAKER_01

Okay, my favorite pump-up songs are probably thunderstruck in cycle class.

unknown

A C D C.

SPEAKER_00

A C D C okay. I'm a terrible music guy.

SPEAKER_01

Um, and then probably House of Pain, jump around.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. What style of class do you like House of Pain in? Cycle. Cycle still. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

Cycle and and strength with that one. Yes.

SPEAKER_00

Nice. Yeah, House of Pain, that's underrated for sure. Now, you have a long commute, like we mentioned earlier. Uh, I'm always interested. How do our fitness individuals, our superstars out there, get their workouts in? Are you a morning person or an evening person?

SPEAKER_01

I would definitely say morning. So I can jump on a spin bike and by that third song, my brain is totally awake. Not just my body, but my brain is totally alert and I can think, and and and it just wakes up my whole system.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Different day once you've hit that morning workout. Final rapid fire question. What is one word our members would use to describe you?

SPEAKER_01

Fun. That's what I am going to say. Um, and I think versatility, like you said, just like being um, just having variety in those workouts. And um yeah, I would say fun.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, fun and versatile. And uh I was joking with you before we got on air. That's the exact word I was gonna choose. Yep, yep, we're on the same page. You know yourself.

One Rule For Consistency Balance

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're getting to the end of our time, and I'd love to make sure we create some action for those who have taken the time to tune in today. As a coach who's worked with so many different people, you've you've learned a lot from those individuals, as you described earlier. What is your one piece of advice that you find yourself coming back to again and again for helping people out there stay consistent and actually enjoy the process?

SPEAKER_01

It's good. I would I would have to say balance. I think it's all in balance. You know, I'll have some clients that will come to me that will be exercising every day. And and then their bodies just get sore and tired. And so they just need to take a rest or maybe take a stretch day or um get on the phone roller or the hyper ice. And so just making sure that their workouts are well well rounded. And I would have to say that for myself too. So that's so if I do four days of strength, my body is tired. I'm I'm so hungry. I just want to eat all the time. But if I um just take a little break in between those days, it's helpful for me to recover, for my muscles to recover. Um, so everything in balance, Jeff.

SPEAKER_00

Well, we're at that time, Lisa. Final question. What does wellness mean to you? Thank you so much for sharing your story. Thank you for all you do here at Pullman Bluff, the fun that you bring to our program, the versatility. Uh, I couldn't be more grateful to be on this journey with you.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Jeff. I really appreciate it. I'm having a blast being here.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Listeners, that is the end of our main segment.

Host Takeaways On Energy And Why

SPEAKER_00

Feel free to hang out with me for a few more minutes and get some healthy momentum for the rest of your week. You know, one thing that really stood out to me today in my conversation with Lisa is that she's just one of those people you're drawn to right away. Always in a good mood, always bringing energy, and it's never in a forced way. It's real. Lisa is truly the one adding the fun touches nobody else thinks about when it comes to our programming. Holiday themes, little post-workout treats, showing up in bunny ears for the upcoming Easter class. That's what she's going to be doing. Like, who does that? But after hearing more of her story today, it made me think that positivity she has didn't just happen. It's coming from somewhere deeper. When she shared about losing her mom to breast cancer, it just adds a whole different layer to how she shows up. And I know Lisa very well. She's she's been through some challenging times. And it hasn't changed how she goes about her life. It's almost maybe enhanced it. Because instead of pulling back, she's leaned in into her health, into her energy, into how she serves people, our members. And it got me thinking about a few things I think we can all take from Lisa. First, I think we assume positivity is just something people have. Like, oh, that's just Lisa being Lisa. But I don't think that's it. I think it's a choice, especially after you've been through something hard, something challenging. At some point, you are deciding and you're asking the question, how am I going to show up today? And Lisa clearly makes that choice every day. The second thing that came up for me is her why is just different. For her, fitness isn't just about the workout, it's about living well while you can. And you can feel that when you're around her. It's not surface level, there's meaning behind it. And I think that's a great question for all of us today. Has anything in your life deepened your why? If you're anything like me, it usually does, if we let it. And then the third thing that really stuck with me. Lisa is incredibly intentional with her energy. And I think we forget how much that matters. That is something I wish I could do a better job of. People might not remember the workout, but they remember how they felt around you. And she gets that. You can tell she walks into a room thinking, how can I make this better for someone else today? And that's powerful, y'all. So I guess if I had one big takeaway from all of this, it's this. We're all going to go through hard things. That's just part of it. But those moments, they don't have to be something we just get through. They can actually be something that we use. Lisa took something incredibly difficult and turned it into a reason to show up better for other people. And I think that's the challenge for all of us. Whatever you've been through, here's the question: how can it shape the way you show up moving forward? Because that's really what it's all about. Not just health, not just fitness, but using all of it to create some real momentum in how we live and how we impact others.

Closing Thoughts And Weekly Release

SPEAKER_00

That brings us to the end of this week's episode. I want to thank you so much for taking the time to listen this week. And we look forward to having you join the conversation again next week. Remember, episodes are released every single Wednesday. Don't forget to actively participate in life on your terms.