Season 2 Episode 4: “I Have This Thing Called Cancer and...”: How Tara Lea Chose Her Own Healing Path.

What happens when you’re diagnosed with cancer — but following the standard treatment path doesn’t align with your body, your values, or your intuition? 

In this episode of The Hurdle2Hope® Show, Teisha sits down with Tara Lea — camel behaviorist, psychic medium, and spiritual guide — to talk about what came after her cancer diagnosis and the moment she chose to step away from the conventional system. 

Tara opens up about rejecting aggressive treatment, why she trusted her inner knowing, and how she's navigating cancer while staying deeply present in life.  

KEY TAKEAWAYS 

• Why intuition is still relevant after a medical diagnosis 
• The emotional toll of being the “healthy one” who gets sick 
• How childhood trauma and burnout can show up in the body 
• The mindset shift needed to step away from fear-based treatment 
• Creating space to live fully — even with cancer 

SHOW RESOURCES 

Tara Lea on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/taralealife/ 

Learn more: www.taralea.com.au 

Book a read: click here 

Chris Beat Cancer: Chris Beat Cancer - A resource for healing cancer holistically by Chris Wark. 

ABOUT THE GUEST 

Tara Lea is an intuitive guide, psychic medium, and camel behaviorist who helps people reconnect with themselves and move through life’s challenges with clarity and intention. 

“I combine my lived experiences with intuitive insight and psychic downloads to offer practical, actionable steps that help you shift into your ideal life and new energy — no fluff, just real support for real people.” 

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Teisha Rose: [00:00:00] Hey there, Teisha here and welcome to The Hurdle2Hope Show live from Daisy Hill here in Australia. you can see in the background that is a wattle tree. I absolutely love this tree. This signifies to me that spring is in the air. So can you see it there? And yeah, sorry, I'm just showing you it there as well. If you're listening not watching me on YouTube, check this out a little bit later. , Because it's been a really cold winter so, hopefully some warmer days are not too far in the future. So, today's episode, I'm really, really excited to share with you this chat. And I say a chat because I almost, well, I did forget it was recording. I'm speaking to the incredible Tara Lea. Tara and I actually connected a friend of mine, had a psychic reading and yeah, just said Tara was amazing, so down to earth. [00:01:00] And when I looked at Tara's details, I saw that similar to me.

Tara is also dealing with a cancer diagnosis, so I thought, wow, what an amazing conversation it would be just to see what Tara's approach to that has been. If you've been following me for a while, you'll know that i'm a big believer in when you approach or deal with a massive hurdle in your life, you need to challenge your thinking.

I didn't do that early on with MS, but certainly over the last 20 years, I've definitely challenged my approach to my health and wellbeing. As I constantly share, I have a medical team around me, but part of my healing a hundred percent has been open to energy healing and really dive in a lot deeper in terms of spirituality.

So have an open mind when you listen to this chat with Tara, I hope you get lots out of it. I certainly [00:02:00] did. Tara opened my mind, to new ways of approaching, cancer as well. Yeah, and I just, I just loved it. Also, if you are connected with Tara. I was very honored that Tara was happy to come on the show and that this was a safe place to really share what she's going through.

Some of you mightn't be totally aware of what she's doing, but we both thought what better way of really sharing that than hopping onto The Hurdle2Hope Show. Enjoy the chat and I'll be back shortly. [00:03:00] 

Teisha Rose: So welcome Tara. Thank you so much for joining me here on The Hurdle2Hope Show. 

Tara Reid: I am really stoked to be here. We chatted a couple weeks ago and this was just such an organic next step, I think.

Teisha Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And I actually love this because I'm looking forward to having a chat, and I think I'll be forgetting that I'm on screen and going to be on YouTube because I like being immersed in the conversation without actually worrying about, , what's next to chat about. , But for those who don't know, you.

We've got an audience all around the world, so just give us a little bit of an in as to where we're heading to you from. , And yeah, just a little bit about yourself. 

Tara Reid: So my name is [00:04:00] Tara and , I am a lot of things, but mostly, , in my work I'm a camel behaviorist, like camels with a hump, not cattle. Um, so I've been doing that for over 10 years.

So I teach people all around the world about camel behavior and how to take care of them as pet camels. Mainly surprisingly, a lot of people have pet camels or want pet camels. , So I've been doing. Tourism stuff also in that 10 years as well as now I'm mostly focusing on the education side of it. , And just helping people live out their wildest camel dreams and goals, whatever that looks like for them.

I'm also a psychic medium, which I know you have been familiar with that work and, , , that's relatively new thing for me 'cause like I've always had the ability but. Um, I had a few childhood experiences that really freaked me out and I didn't, I didn't have mentors around me. I didn't have anyone to say, actually, people were gaslighting me, say.

You can't, you know, [00:05:00] that's not true. That's not going to happen or that didn't happen. Or, , I would be, my parents would be driving past like a car accident. I'd really like, I'd just feel everything and I didn't know how to cope with that. So essentially I kind of just blocked it out for many, many years until really the last five years and I've sort of started playing with it, and then it was just a huge, like, okay, you, you are doing this now. Like this is non-negotiable. , And honestly, I was, I was, I have the capacity for the work and I have like, it was just, people just found me. Like I didn't even, I've never mark, I've never marketed it.

, I've only now recently just put a website page up on my website to say, Hey, this is what I do. . Because I, that just felt like the next step. But yeah. , That's my professional life and I'm also a mum and, um, I also, you know, like to be essentially an athlete in my own little ways and yeah, so busy over here and I love adventures.

Adventures are my thing. I've travelled a lot for [00:06:00] my work and my personal, , needs. And yeah, so I'm just, I'm here for this life. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And I saw on Instagram, you've been skiing recently and I thought, wow. 

Tara Reid: And you know what? 

I have to disclose to everybody like 'cause. I'm, I'm usually good at a lot of things quite quickly, and when I went skiing, I just could not believe that I was not Olympic level on the first day.

How can I, like I did some doozies, like full on, like I've got bruises all over me and yeah, I just rolled down the ski slope and I was about to rage quit, and I'm like, no. I think I've got this 

Teisha Rose: But yes, 

Tara Reid: so I'm also very fully human. Like I think people, when they think psychic medium or, you know, I, I do present as a very shiny, shiny object to people.

And they don't, they're like, this girl's got it all. So they see me doing these things. I'm like, well, it's good for like, of course she can do it. 'cause like she's all the things. , And I, and I've only really recently [00:07:00] figured this out, that other people see me in this way. , But the truth is I'm very human and , one thing that we're gonna chat about in this episode is that last year I got diagnosed with cancer. How does a psychic get diagnosed with cancer? How does a person who's fit and healthy gets diagnosed with cancer, you know, eats plant-based? All those things. So it's a very, very human experience we're all having, and I'm not excluded from that.

Teisha Rose: No. And, but we did connect because a very close friend of mine actually was going through some pretty horrendous things and had a psychic reading with you and she , chatted to me and she's like, Teish, the best, most down to earth, you know? Um, real, really real. Felt like I was just chatting to someone who was getting messages.

, So then I was like, oh, okay, I better check this out. So then we connected and that's what really drew me and on this spiritual journey for me is authentic [00:08:00] people who aren't, , just meditating all the time and not part of this world. And that's what you bring, which is, yeah, you don't always find that.

It's, 

Tara Reid: it's true and I was even in the sauna last night, I always find saunas are these weird containers where people just really get vulnerable with you and um, or with me, I dunno, but we're all in our bathers, we're all in the sauna and I walk into this sauna and there's two ladies sitting there in there, and I instantly see AA like in my head I see AA, I am like, this is weird.

And I walked in and within 30 minutes they're like, oh, we are the AAs where, and so I can't remember the names. They both started with A , and then they were like, oh, and we're also, we're also AA. And I'm like, what do you mean? Like, your name's AA. They're like, oh no, we're alcohol's anonymous. And I'm like, oh my God.

So they, they're gonna get some readings off me too. So there's this container where people just instantly feel, um, and. Also as a kid and into teenage years, like people would [00:09:00] just confide in me and I'm like, why am I this magnet for people to unpack their lives with me? Yeah. And then I realized, oh, I, it, I'm getting downloads as this is happening and I can help you with this.

So, but that begs to differ, like, you know, and, and this is a question I often ask myself, like, how does someone who's so intuitive get cancer. And the truth is, I actually knew when I had cancer, like I was like, all good downloads are happening in the shower or on the toilet or when, so, you know, for me I had that, I'm just like, it was like okay, you have cancer but you, you don't have to freak out, you know?

The freaking out came when the medical people got involved 'cause they were freaking out and then I fed off them and, um. But I had to take a beat away from them to go, hang on a sec. Let's, let's regroup and let's figure out what this means for me. What does, um, you know, for the listeners, what does chronic illness mean for you?

Not, not what people are telling you it [00:10:00] needs to mean for you. And that's my deal. I still have the cancer. I can't say I identify with it, but I know it's my path to, to go on this healing journey, however that looks like. And I really had to surrender to the fact is like I was, I was avoiding death so much.

I wasn't living. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, wait a sec. Yes, I'm going to go on that snow trip. Yes. I'm going to book that three months in advance. Because I was not doing that. Like, I was not booking things ahead of time because I'm like, well, but what if I die? Yeah. It's like, yeah. Well, hang on a sec. If we're, if like, I, I've done a lot of mental, , mindset work, , over the many have probably been doing it for over 20 years now. So I know that, , our mind has a lot of power over our body. And I, and I always say our physique fo follows our psychic. Like what, whatever we're thinking our body will often follow. So if I wanna be a marathon runner, I'm, I'm going [00:11:00] to have to think that first and believe that first before I can do it.

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Uh, a hundred percent. And I think sometimes people think mindset is just positive mindset, but it's not, you know, it's having that, and often 

Tara Reid: positive mindset is spiritual bypassing, you know, it, it, like I've experienced that I was that person too. It's sort of like, actually we need to dig deep here.

Like, why do I this way? Why am I having this emotional reaction? And yeah, I think that that just, and that's why I, I do the readings. 'cause we, we tend to get into those aspects and it, people could come to me, um, for a business reading, you know, what should I do next to my business? And then it's like, well actually this is you are fine in that area. What you need to work on is like the emotional, , and the mental, , aspects of it. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And just so people know a little bit, so in terms of your cancer, so what happened there in terms of. Yeah, where , you said you felt like you, you did, so it wasn't a surprise [00:12:00] to you, but then you get diagnosed and Yeah.

So what, I've been diagnosed with people just listening now with stage four breast cancer in remission. , But yeah. What was that look like for you? 

Tara Reid: Yeah, it was, it was this slow cascading effect. , , These things don't happen instantly. They do. I mean, they've kind of proven that cancer generally happens over time and it, and accumulates over time and different cancers are different things.

So I got diagnosed with a colon cancer. And like, no offense to any old men listening, but it's an old man's cancer. Like I'm, I'm 39, I shouldn't have it really. And of course I was symptomatic for quite some time and it was progressively getting, , more intense. And of course I would go to the GP and she's like.

Hmm. We should, you know, colon, she's like thinking colon cancer. Yeah. We should test for that. She's like, but you won't have it 'cause of your age. You know, and this is very, very common these days. Yes. 'cause there is a cancer epidemic. We can't not admit that. Yeah. There is a cancer [00:13:00] epidemic. And I love, I love asking why and , that's a whole different rabbit hole.

But, being an intuitive, like I knew, I knew what I needed to do and, but other people around me were like, because I felt so vulnerable and it's, of course we're vulnerable. We're, we're experiencing this thing. We're having an illness, we don't know what's going on. Our intuition's kind of trying to talk to us, but then other people are telling us other stuff, like it's really hard to discern the difference and, and you kind of just end up being a shell because everyone around you is kind of saying what you should and shouldn't do. So that was sort of happening for me, and so of course I did what probably no one else would do, and. And I'm like, you know what? I'm just gonna pack up my life.

I'm gonna sell everything and go traveling. I was just, and also like, , I was, my, my relationship with my mother was sort coming to, to light for me. It was just not what, um, it wasn't the, [00:14:00] like I had created it. A story, a positive story in my head about my mum, but that's not what was actually happening in front of me.

Mm-hmm. So, um, that's a whole other aspect too, is like we can be these positive people. Yeah. But are you actually seeing what's in front of you as well? What's actually going on? So I ended up becoming estranged, from my mother. And still am to this day, or you know,, people could listen to this a couple years now, who knows when.

And then, yeah, and then I just kind of like, I. Now I just don't know what to do next. So that was the traveling. I'm like, well, I know how to travel, so we'll do that. So I'm a solo mum. So me and my two kids, I have three kids, but two that live with me. Where we travelled, , I bought a car that I wanted also I had just been through family court like, ah, two, three years through family court. So there's been this whole accumulation and it was an aggressive. It was very aggressive. It almost broke me. Yeah, it really did. And I know that's a [00:15:00] link to the cancer as well. It's part of the emotional stuff that I just can't digest physically.

Um, so, you know, all this, all this stuff is happening in all these chapters were ending, with the mum and the family court, and then I was like. Okay. Yeah, let's just travel like that just feels like the next best step. , And we, we are very experienced travellers and campers, and we've trekked hundreds and hundreds of kilometres with the camels out in the desert.

So like, it's not foreign to us to, do crazy things. Um, so we, the kids and I travelled down the coast of Australia, the east coast for a couple of months and I wa like, I don't even know how I did it 'cause I was getting worse. , I mean, traveling's exhausting as it is. I had no help except for the kids.

We had the two dogs as well. And you know, it was this weird paradox of why I was, we were having the time of our lives, but then I was like, something big is going on here in my body. , And, you know, camping essentially it was a [00:16:00] challenge, but, , essentially I got down to our home state in Victoria, in Australia.

That's where we're from. 'cause we, we moved up to Queensland for a bit and, I crumbled as soon as I got into my home state. It just felt, it felt like it felt safe for me, right? Like so I just, . I just crumbled and I'm like, okay, enough is enough. I'm going to ED. And luckily I had a caravan in a friend's driveway and nothing was perfect about this 'cause I was waiting for the perfect moment to, have support and have the right situation to, to really get down to this issue, my health issue.

And I ended up with ED and it was actually a secondary infection. Um, that, that was causing me the issue. It wasn't the cancer itself. And then of course they go in there, they find stuff, they start biopsying and, you know, I'm without my consent anyway, but they just do that 'cause they think it's the best thing to do.

And then a few weeks later they're like, well, well actually, when I came out of that, um, mini surgery [00:17:00] essentially, uh, they're like, well, it's either Crohn's Disease or, or cancer. I'm like, oh, well. It, it's funny 'cause right then I was thinking, oh, Crohn's Disease, oh, I could totally heal that. Like I'm sure it's Crohn's Disease, like I'm sure it's like that is so healable.

And then, um, just knowing what I know, I've been in alternative health for a long time. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Yeah. 

Tara Reid: And then. Uh, yeah, a couple of weeks later, , I'm just like, Crohn's Disease. Yeah. I convinced myself I had Crohn's Disease and a couple of weeks later the surgeon was like, yeah, it's um, colon cancer. I'm like, what?

Like, I was just like, it's how, how is it that like, because it's just. Have Crohn's you. I'm like, are you sure it's not Crohn's? Like, did you guys mis do the biopsy or whatever? Like, are you sure? And then I really felt like it hit, it felt like someone hit me in the chest. Like, I'm like, whoa, this is, um.

Okay. Like, and that's when I just felt a bit, so [00:18:00] I'm like, okay. And so I, I spent, after I left his, office after he gave me the diagnosis, yeah. I just, I, I really did. I crumbled for a bit , and then of course they wanna push you through all the things like, okay, so you've got this thing that you gotta go see this person and that person and dah, dah, dah, do all the things and you know.

It was chaos and I had no moment to actually sit. Like they don't, they, they diagnose you and , they try to push you through the system so quickly and so fast that they treat it like an emergency. And what I learned is often 99% of the time it's a non-emergency and you have time to think. 

Teisha Rose: Yep. 

Tara Reid: Did you experience that too?

Teisha Rose: Well, I was sort of fortunate because my MS, lucky having two diseases that slowed things up because I was booked in yeah, really quickly for a mastectomy and all, but [00:19:00] it had already spread. So that was cancelled the day before, my mastectomy was originally, and then we had to put things on hold 'cause of medication I was on for MS.

And that did give me a chance to actually breathe and work things out. And fortunately then six months later when I had, I was gonna go onto a different drug. , The cancer had already gone, so it gave me sort of five, six months to call upon everyone. And I was still, you know, following medical advice, but I was like, right, we've got, four or five months.

And then I was saying, you know, can I open healing with you and do some energy healing and everyone, can you pray? I then I lost my voice. I couldn't speak then that meant I had to stop and heal. So now I'm thinking, okay, thanks universe. Because I would've been working and all, and I was annoyed at the time, but I think now that helped me heal.

Tara Reid: Absolutely. We really do need that time just to sit with ourselves. Like the thing is, is like time is actually human [00:20:00] construct anyway. So like when we actually, and, and, and because I do a lot of channeling , and talking, to the spiritual realm and even people that, that have passed being a medium as well, like they don't have a concept of time like they, and so.

I understood that. And so when, 'cause it got so ca what the straw that broke the camel's back was that, , my surgeon's like, okay, like this is actually outta my field. You need to go, into the city and talk to this guy. He's, at the major cancer centre, um, I can't remember what it's called, Peter.

Something. Peter Mac. Yeah, Peter Mac. And all the things. I'm like, okay, the words he's saying sound good, so I'll go. And I saw the surgeon. He didn't even have my records. I walked in any, I'm like, do you have my records? And he's like, oh no, but just tell me what you got. And I'm like, what?

Anyway, so, I, yeah, so I explained it to him. He is like, okay, I maybe spent three minutes explaining. He's like, okay, this is what we need to do. We need [00:21:00] to, give you, like a hysterectomy. I'm like, what? And then he's like, oh, we need to cut out all the colon down there. Oh. And we need to take out all the lymph nodes as well, and we need to, and all I heard was just cut me off down, like down from the waist down and you are good to go.

And good. Just good luck living and surviving and doing the things you wanna do anyways, I was like, and I walked out of there and I was, and I wasn't even emotional. I was just kind of like annoyed. I was like, how He didn't have my records. He had no idea who I was as a person. He didn't ask me my life goals and my life purpose or anything.

There was no, none of that conversation, you know? And that's what I feel a lot of the medical indu it is. Like they don't ask you. Who you want, who, who you are in life, because our medical conditions, can affect that. But there's always, you know, a smart, I feel like a really good surgeon or, they would help you figure it out what's best for you, but [00:22:00] they just put you through as a number.

That was my experience and that was it. I was after that, and then instantly after I left that office, a friend of mine sent me a course she's like, this came up in my Facebook feed and I, you know, I thought of you instantly. She's like, I don't know what it means, but have a look. And I had just bought this guy's course.

It was Chris Beat Cancer. I don't know if you've seen his stuff. 

Teisha Rose: No. Um, 

Tara Reid: so Chris, Chris beats cancer. He's got some books and stuff. And another friend prior to that had recommended it as well. So I'd already, I've already been in the course and I was already doing the course. It was just confirming a lot of stuff I already knew, about cancer and,, this Chris guy, he had colon cancer too, and healed it and all that sort of stuff.

And I was like. Thank you so much for that message. I've got it. It's landed. I know what I need to do moving forward. That's like, I, I, I shut off from the medical input. Like, and I know this can feel really like, really [00:23:00] kind of like I, there's obviously, there's always two, two different type of audience that hear this.

So like, well that sounds really irresponsible. And can I just say also that I lost friends during this process because they're like, you are so selfish. You are a mum if you don't go through chemo and radiation, like your kids won't have a mum. And my, my thought back to that was like, if I go through that they're not going to have a mum. Like I, I know that that was gonna be the thing that gets me. And the thing, like, the thing that was, I, 'cause I'm clairvoyant, so when I, when I'm doing psychic and having psychic downloads I can see the picture that's gonna unfold. And I saw me on my deathbed and I saw that I was like, after I'd had the chemo radiation, like I was like skin and bone. I was like so underweight and my, that was the last my kids saw of me. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Yeah. 

Tara Reid: So I just knew I couldn't, like, that's just not [00:24:00] my path. It's not, I'm not saying that that should be anyone's p like you, like you've just. We all have that intuition and we can tune into it.

Teisha Rose: Yeah, I think so. And as I said, and it, it is interesting. A couple of things. Like I've been really fortunate. The surgeon who ended up, when my cancer came back into my breast, I went through and had two single mastectomies. She was like angelic. She was the most beautiful person. And I felt so at peace. And I think if we do sometimes.

Slow down and quieten our minds and all we can then, and this is what MS taught me, you can be guided to. Like my neurologist, when I was really, really sick early on, he'd say, are you meditating? You know, and that's a neurologist and I sort of really great people. Yeah. Yeah. So I've been very blessed. But I think that was a lot of work too, and was respectful too.

You know, spent over an hour chatting to me about options and disclosed that her mother-in-law had been through a mastectomy and it's [00:25:00] very emotional, so you can have that and it just shows that that's what we need, and but what you're talking about with chemo as well.

I feel like I've been saved by not having to make that choice, because I don't know what choice I would make, but it would, my body wouldn't cope. Like it just wouldn't cope. Like MS is a lot to deal with. And having that on top of it, it would've been brutal. 

Tara Reid: The truth. Like, nobody knows how they'll cope.

Like, no. So nobody like, and that's been a very humbling lesson is like, um, 'cause like it's, it's. It's also a really kind of funny haha thing is like I've always known how to actually get cancer because I like 10 years, 15, probably more than that. Even 20 years ago I was like doing loads of research on cancer and how it forms in the body and how people are healing naturally.

This was like 20 years prior to a diagnosis, so I've kind of, I, I either thought it's gonna happen to somebody really close to me and I [00:26:00] can help them or it's gonna happen to me. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Yeah.

Tara Reid: And of course the better of me thought it's gonna be someone close to me for sure. I'm healthy, I'm, you know, I eat like really good diet, wholesome diet, organic diet, all things. So, and that was a really, another big kind of thing for me as well is like, how does a super healthy person, um, and like, like I'm, and when I say super healthy, I'm just like, like, I'm not the definition of the medical healthy, like, oh, they, they eat in the, the, the pyramid, you know, within the food pyramid sort of thing. Like, I was like, really wholesome down to earth foods, organic, , made my own stuff, fermented foods, like all the things. Yeah. , Because I'd always had, stomach issues even as a child.

I feel like I need to mention and particularly has been another onion layer peel off me, in regards to my healing is a couple of weeks ago I had this, um, [00:27:00] and it was, it was a pivotal moment for me as a child. I went to hospital 'cause I kept getting these severe stomach aches and of course, like they, they bring you in and it was a kids' ward it was fun!. Like, hey, I got a break from my family. So I grew up in a very violent household and of, of course I got all these stomachaches, literally like it was making me sick. And so I went to hospital in the pediatric ward. It was awesome. You got spoiled, like I was having. I was really just, I needed that retreat.

And they're doing all the tests and stuff like, oh, it's probably appendix, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, after a week, they're like, we can't find out what, what the issue was. And my stomach pain was getting, less of an issue, like it was actually reducing. And they're like, do you wanna take Panadol?

Do you wanna do this? Do you wanna do that? And I was just like. I'm getting better, essentially just by having a break from life. So what happened from there is, I remember it must have been a pediatrician. My mum had come to visit and [00:28:00] honestly, I wasn't even looking forward to my, like, I didn't need my parents.

I was like, happy. Yes. I was like, I just, I just need my animals around me. Please bring those in. And um, the, the day that I got a discharge, they said to my mum, they're like, look. We dunno what's going on, but I think she's just doing it for attention. Ah, you know, and I, I remembered, I just remember hearing that and I was like, wow, okay.

Like, I don't know. Okay, well maybe I am doing it for attention. So essentially that, that set a trajectory for the rest of my life to not make my ailments a big deal. Oh, you got a broken leg. Don't worry about it, we'll just let it, we'll play it out for five days and see if it's really broken, and then we'll go figure it out.

So my life journey has been actually trying to un undo that. And then when I went to ED I had the mini surgery. I was in hospital for a week and I was recharging like hospitals, you know, they're not easy places to be in. Mm-hmm. But I was so unwell and [00:29:00] so, burnt out that I'm like, this is a freaking holiday. You know, like, yeah. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. 

Tara Reid: I've just been in and I just put my noise canceling headphones in and I played music the whole time and, took my antibiotics and all the things, and that was a real retreat for me. So a very similar experience to the childhood stuff. And yeah, this time I wasn't making it up. 

Teisha Rose: Not at all. You had lots of doctors telling you it is very real. Yeah. So for you, moving forward then, what does healing look like? What's your thinking of you talking about peeling back the layers which is confronting. But you know, if that's needed to then work through living with cancer, is that sort of what Yeah.

Mm-hmm. What does it look like? 

Tara Reid: So, after diagnoses and like having, like giving myself a few weeks to actually make a decision for myself, everyone's like, you've gotta make a decision. You've gotta make a decision. You've [00:30:00] gotta make a decision. That's overwhelm. Like, I can't make a decision while you're telling me I should make a decision, give me break.

So I just, I just spent some time really just in a cave and I wasn't communicating with anybody. I was just really, trying to figure out what my next steps were and, and, and, and allowing the downloads to come through because, when we get diagnosed with these things, we, we do, we go into our very human, very fight, flight.

Or fright mode, you know, or freeze or fawn. , We, we, that's sort of what happens. And I knew I was in that state, so I really had to take a beat. And, luckily I had some friends or a friend around me and she called me 'cause she had, was diagnosed with breast cancer too, healed it, got diagnosed again and healed it again.

All alternatively to I think, no, sorry, correction, she had a mastectomy. And I remember being on the phone to her and she was, and nobody's ever asked me this in my life. And she's like, and I'm telling her like, people at your doctors are saying this, my friend's saying that, and blah, blah, blah.

And [00:31:00] she's like, Tara, what do you want to do? And honestly, I knew the answer as soon as she asked. I'm like, holy crap. Nobody's ever asked me what. She's like, what do you want? What do you want? And I'm like, I wanna, I wanna do this my way. Like, I don't, I don't wanna have surgery yet. You know, it's, it's still an option.

And I, I, I don't wanna go through chemo and I don't wanna go through radiation. I'm like, I'm a solo mum, like there isn't that support out there. And if I wanna live my life to the fullest, even if it's for the next five years, at least I can do that as a healthy mum with my kids. You know?

And I, you know, like, it's like I don't wanna be sick for five years just trying to recover from, chemo and radiation, which is what I saw in my vision. So yeah, once she asked that, I'm just, that, that just put a, a fire, in my belly. And I'm like, I know exactly what I need to do.

So I was actually living with a friend at the time and when I disclosed this to her, she freaked out. And so [00:32:00] essentially, I got kicked out of her, her place. And so we found her because I, I went from traveling to. You know, diagnosis and then, oh my God, I have to get some stability. Yeah, yeah. Um, and yeah, then I just went on this trajectory and I'm like, there's really not much I need to change about my diet.

Like I, live a anti-cancer diet, it was so weird this paradox and I'm like, this has gotta be really deep seated emotional stuff here, and also environmental factors as well. So I set myself up on this trajectory and honestly, I'm not one of those people, that can say that it stayed consistent the whole time.

Like, I did this thing and it's helped. It's like I've done this thing for like 3, 4, 5 months, six months, and then I, my body's asked something different. You know, I've had a different download. Yeah, so it's never just been one thing and I really think. You, you might be able to talk to this about your healing journey.

It changes as we change, as we peel off the onion [00:33:00] layers, things do change. Suddenly you don't need to take that supplement anymore. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. 

Tara Reid: You know, 

Teisha Rose: but I don't, I think what doesn't change is your intuition. You've just gotta be intuitive as to what your body's asking, what you are emotionally asking, and then having that inner confidence to follow that.

I think. What and what MS taught me is to have the confidence to take a different path. You know, I was really sick in 2000, could hardly move. Got walking not very well, but then ended up over in Scotland for a year. And travelling by myself, so you know, your passion for travel, that was me. And, but I didn't think I needed that this time.

It's like, but you know, because Andrew's health wasn't great and we knew, moving to the country would be good. So it was taking a path that lots didn't necessarily believe in. But then we're living off the grid, on a hundred acres of land [00:34:00] because I know. He needed it and I needed it. So yeah, so it's, I think the constant is being in tune with yourself.

Tara Reid: It really is, and that is the human experience. How can we be human but also be intuitive and spiritual and and, and often we either flow more to the one side, like, you know, there, there's not always that nice balance of, and it's, it's just a human experience. Like we can't have that balance all the time.

And definitely like the being diagnosed was such a human experience for me it was just terrifying. But then when I found myself in that again and able to bring in my spiritual nature, who is Tara? And that's when things improved for me.

So I, I, I knew I had cancer. I knew that I knew this diagnosis, but then I thought to myself, what does this mean for me? Like, yes, I've been given this word cancer, like you've been given this word, MS. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. 

Tara Reid: Um, but [00:35:00] what does it mean for me . And how do I, like, how do I want to transmute that into my life experience?

And that's essentially what I had to take. I had to transmute it into what that means for me. So I call myself, I, I wouldn't probably never identify as a cancer survivor. If I end up curing this. And I've also, I've also said that if I live with cancer for the rest of my life, I'm also okay with that because I don't feel like I have cancer, like I don't feel sick, I don't feel unwell. And, and something I've learned is that often we, yeah, we don't know we have cancer until they do a biopsy and then they're like, oh, you got cancer. And then what happens? People suddenly get really sick. Yeah. Because we've got this diagnosis.

So like that shows the power of the mind like, oh my God, I have cancer and three months down, or the doctor says. Look, we're pretty sure you've only got three months to live. And then what happens? People die in three months. Yeah. But then you hear stories like yours and people don't [00:36:00] die in three months, and then they keep going.

So 

Teisha Rose: yeah, 

Tara Reid: I knew I could choose my trajectory and my, my, I knew it wasn't my time to go. So that's when, I really started playing around with, okay, what is my body trying to tell me? So for me, this has been a massive lesson in tuning into my body. If someone's telling me that, I've got this thing and that I should be doing X, Y, Z, but what does, what do I need?

You know, it's sort of like this, um, this want versus need sort of situation. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I just think too, you mentioning the whole expiry date, and I didn't ask, I didn't ask how long and what I. And it wasn't pushed on me like I've even, my oncologist was really bright about that. She said, oh, we've got so many options.

Don't worry about that. So that was good. But I think when people are told that, and also being told you have a terminal illness, I never use that word because what happens if I kept saying that over and over again? Well, of [00:37:00] course, you know, and yeah, I might die with it. That doesn't mean I die because of it.

So, and what I love too, and when you're mentioning, I think, saying, well I'm, I'm really healthy, um, you know, all these things, but I actually think that helps us to heal because, the cancer had already spread to my liver. I don't drink, I never have, probably my decision with MS. Really healthy liver and it disappeared from my liver within only a few months.

And it's like, well that will say no, you are not welcome here. Um, we're too healthy for you. So yeah, I think we can still, if we are healthy, it's not to give up on being healthy just 'cause we do have cancer. It's like, keep going with that.

Tara Reid: So I've, I've healed a lot of ailments in my past. Some pretty full on ones, with Louise Hayes kind of work. And, then a friend she'd said it to me like probably five [00:38:00] times before , I finally started listening to her, she's like, you should check out this thing called German new medicine. She's like, I, like I really think you could really benefit from it.

She's like, you're already halfway there. This stuff will really resonate with you. And so I started looking into this thing called German new medicine. And I'm like, wow, this is Louise Hayes stuff on steroids. And it was formulated by a physician, a German physician, hence the German part.

And, he figured out, through MRI scans as well that you can look at somebody's brain, and pick up the inflammation in their brain and pinpoint exactly in their body where the, the, well we're talking specifically about cancer, where that cancer is. And I was like, holy, this is, now this is interesting.

I like if it's science too. And his personal experience was, Dr. Hamer was his name. And of course he got ridiculed and mysteriously died. All those things. What happened to him personally is he was on a holiday, in Europe somewhere with his, adult son. And somehow they got caught up in a cross, [00:39:00] like a gun crossfire and his son got shot in front of him.

And a few months later, Dr. Hamer developed testicular cancer. Yeah. And already starting this work, he started putting the dots together. Like, it's just amazing. I find people who do this work, I'm like, this is their downloads, this is their intuition. They're here as a gift, you know?

And then, , he was able to cure his own tescular cancer he linked it to his son's death because his body, wanted to start. And like, biologically, this we're still very much evolutionary creatures wanted to start making more sperm to create more babies. 'cause he just lo lost one essentially. So that created an accumulation of cells and I'm no scientist, so, anyway, his works interesting and you can go look it up.

And then he developed a tumor and, and cancerous and all that sort of stuff. So when he got to the emotional root cause of this, he was able to clear it. So he cleared it. Been helping people around the world doing this. He's no longer [00:40:00] alive, but he's got some incredible books and incredible people that are still doing this work.

So it's not, it's not something you necessarily go and study. Well, you can study it online and I'm personally studying it, but one thing I learned about secondary cancers, and one thing I'm very, very aware of is like the, the shock of the first cancer diagnosis can create another cancer diagnosis.

So, and I think that perhaps happened to me as well because the last PET scan that I had, showed, the colon cancer, and then they're like, oh, there's something in the lungs and they said something and I'm like, well, I'm not gonna make anything of something, so let's just see what hap like I'm, you know, I'm an athlete, like I run, like I have no issues breathing and all that sort of stuff.

And, 'cause I knew this about the shock of a secondary cancer. And I, I, I've spoken with a couple of practitioners and they're like, that's pretty common. I wouldn't be freaking out about that. So, yeah, I [00:41:00] chose not to freak out about it. Um, and I, I haven't had a PET scan since, a few months ago.

But yeah, like, it's just interesting. And even with a diagnosis, something simple like having a rash on your face or, and then it suddenly gets worse and worse and worse. 'cause we're, we go through this process of devaluing ourselves, like, what have I done wrong? Why have I got this illness? How will people perceive me?

And I devalued myself. I'm like, people see me as like this healthy person and she has cancer. So I went through a devaluating process of like, wow, like pe what are people gonna think of me? You know? 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Uh, similar, I, the week I was diagnosed, I was about to launch a course, helping people live well with MS.

Then I thought, oh, oh, wow. I mean, how, wow. I mean, come on. 

Tara Reid: You can't make that up. 

Teisha Rose: No. So I was like, well, we can't do that. But then I was thinking, I had always thought what I was teaching would help people with any illness, but I was thinking, how can someone [00:42:00] living with with a stage four cancer, how can they say what, you know, they'd be saying, what would you know?

You don't have a diagnosis like I have. So then I was like, shut up about saying these things out loud. So then I've, applied everything to living with this diagnosis and it still worked. And I'm like, okay, I don't need to test it out on anything else now. Just on MS and cancer, we know everything in between.

But you're right. You do you think, oh, uh, they'll think I'm, I'm not dealing with prioritising my wellbeing enough because I've now got a cancer diagnosis. 

Tara Reid: And funny enough, I, I only really had that one kickback from a friend. Like, I was so surprised on, that my family was so supportive too, like, well.

I mean, it probably doesn't surprise them that I'm doing things differently. Like I've always done things a bit differently. So, but like, I was just like, wow, people, like, and also I think I, I really made it energetically clear that I didn't want [00:43:00] people's, opinions about my health.

Especially people that don't understand my way of living, , like holistically and stuff like that. So I put, kind of put myself in that energetic bubble. So I haven't had a lot of kickback in that way now. Like it's people were just, they see that I'm thriving, I'm a cancer thriver, but also I don't wanna identify with the cancer thriver part.

I can also just be a thriver. I don't have to have the cancer to thrive. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah, that's right. That's right. And I think it does, you get, into these worlds. And I always didn't wanna be defined by MS. And I thought, well, thank goodness, because then what am I, do I go to MS group or do I go cancer group or what do I do?

Yeah. Which group am I in? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I dunno. I dunno. So I just think it's really important for us to be identified by who we are and our response to whatever happens, not by what the actual hurdle is. And 

Tara Reid: people get really shocked when they're like, they hear I have cancer, and they're like, what?

Like, how can you, like, you look so healthy and you're fit and you're [00:44:00] living life. I'm like, yeah. And yeah, yeah, that's right. Like, like this is it. And I find and such a powerful kind of statement. It's kind of like. I have this thing called cancer and ... fill in the blanks. Create your own story about that.

Like you don't have to let someone else create your story for you. And that is probably the most pivotal message that could come through. this episode is like you get to create your, and ... your story around. Yeah. 

Teisha Rose: That's beautiful. That's beautiful. And it, it is so true. And I think that's what people, anything that happens to, it's your narrative and it's your story to tell.

And we can't take that away from people by giving them your own fears and narratives to that story. 

Tara Reid: Yeah. And just it, it is an empowering place to come from and the reality is none of us can avoid death. It's going to happen. It real like, [00:45:00] sorry, spoiler alert. We're all going to die. But we hold onto and we're being taught to by the medical industry and by the way that we live, like, let's live longer.

Let's stretch out our lifespan, let's do this and that. It's like. Why are we so attached to not dying? What got us to this point? Probably in, in evolution it's sort of like, well, family members would die, during the caveman days and there'd be grief, but we'd just get on with things as well, 'cause we were more connected to the, to that intuition that we always had sort of thing. So it's just kind of like playing with this idea is like, what is living? But like, if we're trying to avoid like me, I was trying to avoid death so much. I forgot to live, I, I closed the door on everything. I closed the door on any new relationships and friendships.

I closed the door on I wasn't even doing any psychic readings. Like, who am I to do psychic readings? I have cancer. And even, the camel aspect of side things, I couldn't plan ahead because what, what if people pay me to do this work I can't do it, you [00:46:00] know? Mm-hmm. But the truth is, is like this year particularly, like I've really had a big shift in January, and I'm like, I'm just gonna plan ahead and see what happens.

And it's all been fine. Like I've been able to do the work, in fact, do it better than I've ever have done it. I'm doing readings for people like I, and honestly, I feel like even prior to being diagnosed with cancer, I felt like my container, my capacity wasn't that big. And I feel like just with this experience, like I've been able to exp I can hold, I can hold, this thing called cancer and try to heal it whilst doing readings for people, whilst going and doing camel stuff whilst being a parent to three kids whilst insert the black. And even recently, I just went all out and I'm like, I've always wanted to because there's nothing like a scary diagnosis to go or where's my, where's my bucket list? 'cause like I. So I started doing foster caring for dogs. So I, I'm like, this is something I've always wanted to do.

Why haven't I done this? And I [00:47:00] totally underestimated how rewarding that would be, and I love it. And I thought it would drain me. And I, I was creating this story in my head like, oh my God, I'm not gonna have the capacity. And what if I get a dog I don't, like, none of that's happened. Like, it's just been perfect.

Teisha Rose: Yeah, but that's so true because it does, it just gives you a reminder to live, just to embrace life and live, and that's when you talk about a gift of a diagnosis. And I always say, of course you know I'm not wrapped to have cancer and MS but if that is what's going to happen to me in this lifetime.

So what do we do about it? And how do we use that to keep living and embracing life? And I think you're right, otherwise we curl up and we start dying. 

Tara Reid: We do start dying. And because like even just a simple thing, like to get fit and active or to eat a better diet, like what's the first step you need to take?

You need to take a first step. If that's like, getting into your pantry and chucking everything out that you don't wanna [00:48:00] eat anymore, like that's your first step. , Sometimes I think I, very much romanticize my, my healing journey. I'm like, because I'm just like this bright, bubbly person.

But it's been, it's been treacherous. Like I have, I've been through some really, really dark nights of the soul, fetal position on the floor, going like, I don't, I don't want to live. I've been through that stage. It's like, this is too much. I can't do this. I've also been through legal battles at the same time, you know, and like.

Like it's been this shit show. Yeah. Yeah. But I still have like, I feel like those things I could have gone either way. I could have, yeah rolled up in a ball and started dying, or I've chosen to expand my capacity on this. Yeah, I've chosen to expand my, how much more can I hold as a human being? And that's now affected my, my work life as well. So I'm able to read better for people and I'm able to, do better work in, in my professional life as well. And also parenting too. [00:49:00] Like my parenting journeys changed extremely in the last few months because I've been at a whole more capacity. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. No, that's beautiful. Thank you. Let's leave it on that very positive note.

I just love these types of conversations because you feel like you are chatting to others who, who get it, and sometimes it is the privilege of having these experiences that we can connect to others who do understand what hearing those words mean, but then what it means to keep going and keep living and, having all these new experiences that we wouldn't have had otherwise.

Tara Reid: Yes, it's so true. And if people wanna reach out to me for a reading or whatever, they're welcome to, just by taralea.com.au So Lea spelt Lea.. 

Teisha Rose: Okay. Yeah, absolutely. And I'll put that in the show notes as well and we'll share on socials because I can say I, I have had the experience and if I didn't like it, I wouldn't be [00:50:00] inviting you onto the podcast.

I know. It was so 

Tara Reid: good. And I loved reading for you too, so thank you for, for letting me in. Like, 'cause it's a very vulnerable thing to do is to have a reading and I'm very, very picky with who I get readings from still. So yeah, like I'm. I get it. And that's why like I'm here to hold this space for you.

Teisha Rose: Yeah, absolutely. And as I mentioned before as well, I think what you do is keep it very real. And I think people get scared of doing things like that. I think, oh God, a psychic reading that's, you know, I don't wanna find out, well, you couldn't tell me I've got cancer. I, I had already found that out, but it wasn't like that.

It's like having a conversation and it's like having someone with absolute clarity as to, you're really brainstorming, but the added bonus is that you get this extra bit of clarity that you can share with me. And as I, we chatted about me, writing another book. So that's a, a big [00:51:00] thing, that I can be sharing.

But part of that is Yeah, that's right. That's right. But part of that was, I knew, I knew that, but I was holding back from that a bit like we were talking about, who's gonna wanna read my book if I'm, you know, yeah, MS and cancer. But it's like, no, there's still so much that we can share that we've learned.

So definitely go to Tara, you said taralea.com.au 

Yeah, 

Tara Reid: so that's, that's for like the energetic and intuitive stuff. And then if you wanna learn more about camels, you can just go to camelchannel.com 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Camel Channel. That's great. Yeah. Yes. Well, who knows? Up at Daisy Hill we may end up with a camel.

Oh, we've gotta get two, so, okay. 

Tara Reid: They're herd animal, and I would love to help. So, 

Teisha Rose: well, Andrew wants two donkeys, so, oh. 

Tara Reid: Donkeys are great too. 

Teisha Rose: Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So I highly 

Tara Reid: recommend both of them, 

Teisha Rose: so we'll see. Excellent. [00:52:00] Well, thank you so much, Tara. Really appreciate your time. 

Tara Reid: Yeah, thank you.

Teisha Rose: Okay, so hopefully, sorry I'll get the wattle back in there you really enjoyed that episode with Tara. I loved the chat. A couple of things. taralea.com.au is Tara's website so please connect with her there. If you are interested in having a psychic reading, I really encourage you to connect with Tara.

Also, as I said at the beginning. If you are dealing with a hurdle in your life, I'm a big believer in what has worked for me has been challenging my thinking. Part of that is not being scared of people taking different approaches to something like cancer, but instead to learn from them. I, as I keep mentioning, I've got an incredible medical team, but I wouldn't be in remission.

Or I wouldn't be doing so well MS wise if it wasn't for me approaching [00:53:00] health differently as well. So for me, it's been energy healing and really, you know, when you're diagnosed with a stage four breast cancer, it crystallizes and makes you question life more. So spirituality has definitely played a role for me as well and this leads very nicely to a new offer I have, which is a small, like a mini course four videos about the elements that have helped me heal. So we're talking Earth. Air, Water and Fire. And in this mini course, if you go to hurdle2hope.com/elements, and remember Hurdle2Hope with number two.

Have a look there because yeah, I just share how I've used each of the elements in my own healing and I think you'll get a lot out of that. It really helps me to connect more and I'm hoping it will help you as well on your own journey from [00:54:00] Hurdle2Hope.

So have a great week and I really look forward to chatting to you again from Daisy Hill.