Ep 26: Manifesting Your Best Life in Your 40s & Beyond with Sarah Centrella

Do you ever catch yourself stuck in the same mental loops, replaying negative thoughts about your body, your energy, or your future? Science shows we think around 70,000 thoughts a day, and 90 percent are repeats. That constant replay can keep us trapped in patterns we don’t even realize we’re reinforcing.

In this episode, I sit down with Sarah Centrella, bestselling author, master life coach, and creator of the Centrella Method. When her marriage suddenly collapsed in 2008, Sarah was left as a single mom of three with no clear options. Instead of staying in survival mode, she created simple mindset tools that turned her entire life around.

Sarah reveals how her “mental tennis” technique can flip a negative thought in seconds, why daily affirmations are a powerful map for who you are becoming, and how “future boards” can make your biggest goals tangible. We also dive into why the myth that life gets worse after 40 is holding women back and how to reclaim real joy at any age.

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02:08 – Today’s guest, Sarah Centralla, shares how her husband's infidelity became the catalyst for completely rebuilding her life from scratch.

11:17 – Sarah breaks down why our thought patterns automatically recreate yesterday's reality.

13:50 – Sarah introduces "mental tennis" - her simple technique for instantly flipping negative thoughts into empowering alternatives.

18:46 – How to use daily "I am" affirmations as your list of who you're becoming, not who you currently are.

24:32 – Breaking the myth that life gets worse after 40 and why this is actually when you come into your power.

34:17 – The step-by-step process for creating future boards that actually manifest your goals, starting with your life plan story.

41:27 – Sarah's five core life categories that need attention for fulfillment: relationships, career, wealth, mind/body, and passions.

45:13 – How to rediscover joy by reconnecting with childhood interests and why "doing" activities build confidence like they do for kids.

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Transcript

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 0:02

Welcome to Reset Recharge, the podcast where women's health takes center stage. I'm your host, Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia, a triple board certified endocrinologist and women's health expert. This show is all about empowering you with the knowledge to understand your metabolic health, navigate hormonal changes, and feel confident in the conversations you're having with your healthcare provider. Whether you're managing symptoms, exploring treatment options, or just want to feel more in tune with your body, you're in the right place. As a physician, my goal is to educate on this podcast. The content shared here is for informational purposes only and should not replace personalized medical advice. If something we discuss resonates with you, please talk to your healthcare provider at your next visit. Now let's dive in and help you reset, recharge, and take control of your health. Hi everyone. Welcome back to Reset Recharge. I'm your host, Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia, and I am excited to introduce today's guest, Sarah Centrella, who is a bestselling author, master Life and Executive Coach and creator of the Centrella Method, she helps people in teams worldwide transform their mindset and manifest their goals, and I think that this is such an important topic for women who are in midlife. Because we are going through all of these changes and evolutions and sometimes in addition to figuring out, what exactly is going on physiologically with our bodies, we have to do a lot of work on our mindset and acceptance to try and shift that. She is also the founder of VIVIAMO, the host of the Sarah Centrella Show, and her work has been featured in major outlets like Good Morning America, in The New York Times. So welcome Sarah.

Sarah Centrella 1:44

Thanks. I'm so excited to be here.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 1:46

For our listeners, I was lucky to meet Sarah. I had no idea what a badass she was when we were at a mutual friend's wedding and we were just sitting poolside and talking about life, and we just kind of really gelled and connected. And then I got home from Mexico and I was like, looking at your social, and I was like. Oh my God. I had no idea who I was sitting next to the whole time I was there so I'm really excited to have you here today. Could you tell the listeners a little bit about what you do and how you got to this point in your journey?

Sarah Centrella 2:19

Yeah. As a life coach, first and foremost, Komal the feeling is so mutual. I think like we instantly had a connection. I had just gone through. A horrible tragedy the day before. I just lost my brother, shockingly, and it was, you have this beautiful presence just that you exude that is warm and is open and I was going through all this stuff and you know, you're not trying to have that be a thing at a this great destination wedding. But your warmth and your just spirit allowed me to connect with you immediately. Open up to you, share that with you. You're the only person that I told for about a week of what had happened. So I'm just, I'm honored to like. Be here to know you to be building this, friendship that we have. Thanks for having me here. I can't like this conversation. I'm gonna try really hard to keep you to an hour because

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 3:07

I know, right?

Sarah Centrella 3:08

So all day. Yeah. So my gosh, how I started life coaching, it's very, very crazy story because never in a million years did I ever think that's what I was going to do. My. Pivotal story started in 2008. At the time I was married to my high school sweetheart, we had three little babies. We had twins that were a year and a half. Our son was five. And one day he came home from work and went in the shower. And I had been watching the Oprah show that day, and they were talking about cheating spouses and how to know if your spouse is cheating. And I was like, I don't need that shit. Like, I can mute it, I can watch Rosie instead or something, yeah. And then all of a sudden he's in the shower and I'm like, but I haven't seen his phone in a really long time. And that just wasn't us. Right. That wasn't our dynamic. Yeah. And it was like the second I had that thought, I knew everything, like start to finish. It just, it's like a little mental reader board. It was like, here's what's going on, here's who it's with, blah, blah, blah, blah. And anyway, I go in and find his phone and sure enough there's. The first message, he hadn't even seen it yet was from his mistress. And I was like, I can't wait till you're finally free. All mine, no more sharing. And I was like, kids, I'm gonna put a movie on real quick in the back of the house. And I went in, turned the water off in the shower, so like, get the fuck out. And that was. The end, it just blew up Everything I'd known about my life. We'd been together since we were 16. And it also came at the worst possible time. This was right at the bubble. So we had lost our house the year before. I've been a stay at home mom. We were just barely scraping by as it was. And then that night as kind of everything just was hitting me, I started realizing like, oh my God, I don't. Have a bank account anymore in my own name, like the car is in his name. Like how did it get to this? Right, and I just, I remember like laying on the floor just sobbing, thinking like, I can't do this. This is back before social media, so I didn't know one person who'd been divorced. I know that sounds crazy, but. My friends were at the stages where they were just starting to get married, you know, so like, I didn't know a single person who'd been through divorce, no one who had ever publicly been through infidelity like this. So I truly felt like I was the first person on the planet to ever go through something like this. And I just had this overwhelming sense of, I can't, I can't, I can't do it. And in that like really, really dark space, there was this alternate, whatever you wanna say, intuition, voice guide, whatever. And it was just like, well. What if you can, you know, and that was kind of the start of everything for me, because I think I just needed that lifeline so bad that I clung to it. And I was like, well, if I could figure this out, if I could pick myself back up, what would I do? And I started just, once I realized I had to kind of rebuild a life from scratch, I was like, well, why don't I rebuild a better one? You know, like, and so I just started like fantasize dreaming. I was like, well, if I had a better life, what would it look like? And I just started flushing it out in all these ways I'd be successful. Okay, well what does success look like? That woman, who is she? Um, if I'm a good single mom, figuring that all out. What does she look like? What does she do? How does she show up? And then I kind of just went through all the categories. And when I finally, finally got a job, I. Decided to put pictures that represented all that stuff that I was kind of daydreaming about in my cube, and they made me happy. And I looked at'em for about a year and then it just all started like happening. Like literally those pictures and that like mental movie that I was creating in my head just started becoming my real life. And it was the craziest trippiest thing. And I just thought, how is this happening? What did I do? How can I make it happen more and more and more? Because this is pretty great. It's a whole lot better than before. Yeah. And that just started everything. And it started with a blog with me just getting on, just sharing that journey and it's turned into four books and now a full-time career. And I've been doing it full-time for eight years. But yeah, it, it definitely called to me, it was not something I ever in million years thought I was going to leave a corporate job to do. But I'm really glad I did.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 7:17

I love this story for so many reasons, obviously not the origin of it. Yeah. Because that was rooted in probably the most horrific trauma that anybody can go through when they're navigating a relationship and trying to build a family. But the fact that you were able to, in the darkest moments in your life, start with changing your thoughts and changing your mindset and knowing that there was. You didn't know what it was, but you knew that there was a way out of it and you were going to put your energy towards doing that. Right. And I think for a lot of my patients who are going through these body changes where they are, you know, going and they feel like they're being gaslit by their medical professionals. Mm-hmm. Or nobody has answers and they don't know how to go out and find that information. Just the thought of changing their mindset and getting to a more positive place, and then being able to go out and seek that help that they're looking for is just such a compelling story. And I love that you've managed to take this very dark time in your life and turn it into an abundance of blessings. What are the titles of the four books you've written so far? I know you have another one coming and I have that one ordered. Ordered on Amazon as well. Yay.

Sarah Centrella 8:29

Thank you. Yeah, so my very first book is called Hustle Believe, receive, and that was really kind of based off my blog journey. I just started getting on sharing, you know, as a single mom, I felt like I didn't, I didn't have any community.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 8:42

Yeah. I didn't really

Sarah Centrella 8:43

have anyone to talk to about all these things I was going through, and so I just went on and blogged and people started. Kind of following along what I was doing and asking, Hey, how can I do it too?'cause it's obviously working for you. And that was probably five years and that grew and grew and grew. And then I was like, you know what? I can't answer everyone's individual question all the time. Why don't I write a book?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 9:03

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 9:04

Put it all together. There we go. And then, that one has done really well. We've re-released it twice, sold out both of its, printings. And then the second one is future boards, and that's all about like how I manifested, so from the manifesting side. Yeah, my future boards. And then the next one is all the things I wish I knew. 80 life lessons for women.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 9:23

I love that. So just

Sarah Centrella 9:24

a tiny bit of things I needed to know.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 9:27

Yeah, a

Sarah Centrella 9:27

little bit. A little bit. Um, I had 120 and my editor was like. You know, I, not a little too much.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 9:35

Let's not get into three digits, right scale.

Sarah Centrella 9:39

We can scale it to 80. And then the one that is coming out in January is called Think It and it's all mindset. So definitely, I know what we wanna get into today.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 9:47

Yeah. I'm excited to dive into, figure out like how you have tapped into that. I think I had shared with you before that about 10 years ago, we went through a really traumatic event where my husband had a heart attack and I had to go through that journey of finding it. Unlike you was not able to self start and do that. I felt myself in just like this dark, deep hole. Mm-hmm. But I had the blessing to find somebody who was a life coach. Similar to what you did. Yeah. Who really helped me get myself out of a very dark time and start making forward progress. But I would love to hear your method around that.'cause I think there's some core. Around coaching and self coaching that you learn. I'm interested in hearing your, or sharing your method. Yeah. Because you and I talked about this and I, I love the different things that you have pulled in and especially your thoughts around like, mind getting your mind at body. Right. And I think we talked a little bit about finding your passion and your joy. So Yeah. You know, the floor is yours. Tell us. Absolutely. Tell us how to make the magic happen.

Sarah Centrella 10:52

Well, you brought up a really good point in. Women who are going through pre menopause or menopause, we'd have all these changes going on in our life, not just in our body, but like. Most likely in career at that same time, maybe you're going through empty nester for the first time. So it's like a massive life change and, and I'm right there. I just turned 50 and just kind of became an empty nester. So if all those are like right here, going through all of those changes, and I think it's really easy and life in general to be very, very focused on what's going on today. And when we're talking from a mindset perspective, that's actually a pretty dangerous mind spiral to be in. Because if you think about the base law of attraction, if you will, whether you believe it or not, it's been proven for centuries. Which is just the idea that what I focus on, I bring to me so. If what I'm focusing on is that my body feels terrible, that I feel terrible, that I have no energy, that everything is going wrong in my life, or that I'm not feeling great, or whatever the case is, and I'm doing that day after day because 90% of our thoughts are repetitive from yesterday to today. So if you think about that, we have about 70 to 80,000 thoughts a day. Wow. 90% of them are just on auto repeat really. So break out of that cycle. And start thinking something brand new. You can see it takes a lot of effort, right? Yeah. Because it's much easier to just wake up today, the way I woke up two months ago, five years ago. Yeah. Right. So if I'm not actively changing those thoughts, then all I'm doing is recreating today over and over and over and over in, into Infinity, and I'm waiting for a big life event or some miracle to shock me out of that. Rotation. Yeah. Most people are in that spot. They're just waiting for something good to happen, to hopefully shock'em out of it and, and maybe they'll feel better for a little while, but they'll go right back to the. Same recycle unless they have a plan to get out of it and stay out of it. And so what I do is I teach people how to train their thoughts to align with what they want rather than focusing on all these things I don't like. Right. So, and it starts very, very simple. I share two of the simplest tools on the planet. Um, they're so simple that I think a lot of people discount them and they're like, uh, that can't possibly work. But I, I deeply challenge you to try it. And if you try it for 30 days, you're gonna be shocked at the transformation that you are making, both in your own mental health, in your energy. And then the longer you stick with it, the faster tangible results start coming in behind it. So the first one is in a moment where you're kind of catching yourself obsessing over the things that aren't working.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 13:37

Yeah. You

Sarah Centrella 13:37

know, my body feels crappy, I don't have any energy, whatever. Right. As soon as I kind of notice that thought, which in itself takes a a little awareness, takes a little practice to even pay attention to what's going on in my head. Right. But once I do, then use this tool, plug this tool in, I call it mental tennis and real quick I'll just walk you through it.'cause the visual helps. You never forget it. Okay.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 13:57

I love that. So,

Sarah Centrella 13:58

If you imagine that you're like out on a tennis court. And you're practicing your return serve and you're doing it with one of those like automatic ball launchers, right? Mm-hmm. So you're standing there and no one in their right mind is just gonna stand there and let every ball hit them all over. That's true. Their body, right? Yeah. Make some sort of effort to get out there and return some serves. They're not gonna be perfect. You know, a bunch of'em are gonna go out. Some won't go over the net. But my goal is to try and get them back over the net, right?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 14:26

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 14:26

So if we think of our mind or our brain as that tennis court all day long, those 90,000 thoughts that are on auto repeat are coming at us like fastballs just hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, and most people have no idea what to do with that information. And so they absorb it. And they believe that to be true, right? So this self-doubt, this limiting belief, this, I can never change how I feel. This is just how it is. Like whatever those thoughts might be. Thoughts of self-sabotage, imposter syndrome, whatever.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 15:01

Yeah. So

Sarah Centrella 15:01

they're coming at us all the time and we analyze'em and be like, yeah, you know what? You're right. I'm not ready for that. Or you're right, other people are way better at that. I should just wait to do that, right? Yeah. Yeah. So they really become our truth very, very quickly because we're absorbing every, we're just standing there getting hit. We're just absorbing, right? But now I just want you to return the serve. And what I mean by that is all you have to do is think what's the opposite of this thought? So if my thought is I'm not good enough. Then I just go, I'm good enough.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 15:32

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 15:32

Or I'm not ready. I'm ready. I'm getting better every day, or I can't do this. I can do this. It's very, very simple. It's just the opposites you, but what you're doing is two very important things. One, you're stopping the negative from continuing to grow, roots, recycle and create outcomes. Number two, for the very first time ever, you're giving a brand new option.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 15:55

I love that,

Sarah Centrella 15:56

right? That option wasn't there before.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 15:58

Yeah, yeah.

Sarah Centrella 15:59

Option of, I can had never grown roots to like help you figure out how you could do it, because if you shut down, it was never even put out there in the first place.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 16:09

I love that. And I feel like for women, we are almost conditioned to accept, right? I, except whatever it is we're taught at from a younger age that. You take care of everybody else. Yeah. Before yourself. Right? So with that type of societal conditioning or cultural conditioning or whatever you it is, you wanna call it, how many women just stand there and take those tennis balls coming to them? Right. So this is an empowering thought that you don't No, I don't. I don't have to

Sarah Centrella 16:38

take it.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 16:39

Yeah, I got a tennis racket in my hands. Like I'm, I don't, I'm the least athletic person I know, but this is driving with me because I'm like

Sarah Centrella 16:46

one or two balls out there.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 16:47

Right. At the worst case scenario, I can hold it in front of my face and it's not gonna like, hit me in the face. Right. But, you know, it, it, it gives you the option of protecting yourself in a way that power. Yes. Yes. And, and in a way that was maybe not taught to us or at all, accepted at that, uh, you know, at the time that we were growing up is that you don't have to take that. You don't have to

Sarah Centrella 17:12

accept it. Accept it's not true. Negatives not, yeah, it's not true truly. But most people don't even understand that statement. So if everyone listening can just ruminate on that, like, what if I'm not my thoughts? What if everything my brain is telling me about who I am is actually just made up bullshit. Like, what if that was true? Yeah. Okay. Well then which ones do I not want anymore? You know, and, and the crazy thing about when you're using mental tennis is that in the moment you immediately feel better. Yeah. Because what happens when I ruminate on the thought that I'm not good enough, or I'm not ready, or I feel terrible or whatever, my body starts to ugh. Right? Yeah. I start to physically feel. Just yucky. I might get a stomach ache, I might get a headache, I might have other signs of stress. And as soon as I stop that and put the empowering opposite in, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, oh, I feel a little better. So if you want an instant fricking fix, that is an instant way to change your energy in the moment. And it doesn't matter what the subject matter is, the subject matter could be like. My partner is annoying. You know, like my kids are annoying. Like it doesn't matter. You can flip it and be like, Hey, I'm so grateful, you know, that I get to smoke with my kids. My kid's pretty funny actually, you know? So how can I like turn it around and start thinking, putting the opposites out there so I can start to get it. And then the other one, is even simpler. And those are just, IM affirmations. So we use these two tools in two different ways. Mental tennis, you're using it in the moment. You know when you're getting inundated with those balls, you're flipping it back around, but affirmations you can use proactively. And you just use them in the same way you do any other practice. If you take your vitamins every morning, if you brush your teeth every day, if you go to the gym every day, you know that those are habits and they're practices and you just do them, right?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 19:01

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 19:02

So if you could plug in saying 10 to 20 positive, IM affirmations. Every morning when you brush your teeth and every night before you go to bed, you will become a different human. In 30 days. Like it's,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 19:18

I love that.

Sarah Centrella 19:18

Crazy. It is so crazy. So I think of it as my list of who I am becoming. So they should always be, aspirational. Mm-hmm. So in other words, you shouldn't say, I'm a good mom unless you really, truly believe you're a terrible mom. Yeah. Then we'd say that.'cause we wanna become that, right? Yeah. You're putting out there all the things you wish you were, so all the things like you wish you felt.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 19:42

Yeah. The

Sarah Centrella 19:42

ways you wish people treated you. Yeah. All the ways you wanna show up, um, how you wish your world was. So you're saying things like, I am beautiful, I am healthy, I'm vibrant, I'm full of energy.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 19:55

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 19:55

I'm successful. I am getting stronger and better every day. People love me. I am loved. I make friends easily. So whatever your things are, we're putting out. The empowering opposite of all your kind of internal demons, and we all have them. Yeah. So if you just did that as a practice, every single day, you're gonna notice week one, you're gonna start to feel a lot better. Just your energy's gonna rise because you're no longer beating yourself down. You're lifting yourself up, right? Yeah. Week two, even better. But then this magical thing will start to happen in week three, where you hear both the voices. The one that's like, you're terrible and now this new one that's like, no, you're strong. You're ready. You got this.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 20:38

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 20:38

And now for the first time ever, you make a choice. You say, which lane am I gonna take? Am I gonna go back around in this cul-de-sac that I've been in for years and years and years? Yeah. Or am I gonna get off it and go with that new empowered statement and show up as that person?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 20:53

Yeah. It

Sarah Centrella 20:54

actually changes. How you make decisions, which of course will change your outcome. Yeah. So it is the fastest and simplest way to get new outcomes in any area of your life.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 21:04

I love that.

Sarah Centrella 21:04

And it's like five minutes a day.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 21:05

It sounds so simple. What do you find are like the biggest barriers that your clients will come up against when they're first trying to implement those changes? Is it just the strength of the negative voice?

Sarah Centrella 21:18

Yeah. So I would say when you're very, when you very first start doing any of this mindset work, our number one, we, the one place that we start with is called mental inventory. Yeah. And I have a little practice where, you know, if you have a smartwatch or phone or whatever, you set it to you once an hour and in that, you know, five seconds, you're asking yourself, what was I thinking about this hour? Just so you can learn how to track what's going on of mind, right? What are those 70,000 thoughts that I'm having a day? That process can be a lot.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 21:51

Yeah.'cause

Sarah Centrella 21:51

for many people it is a first time in their whole life where they realized, oh my god. I had no idea how mean I was to myself. I had no idea how often I obsessed about really horrible things. Yeah. I had no idea that like I was putting all of this really negative energy out into the world and into my life, you know? So like, I would say that part, uh, I had a client once refer to it as mental warfare and I was like, that's accurate.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 22:18

Yeah. Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 22:19

So that first week when you're practicing it can be a lot because soon as you start to understand this concept. And you understand that what I think becomes what I do becomes my reality. Then it's, it's kind of hard not to look back over your life and be like, wow. Why did you jack that up?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 22:40

I'll share that. When I first started going through this, it was funny because, being the oldest daughter in an immigrant family and, having all. Cultural expectations and my parents compared to a lot of other immigrant parents were pretty chill. Like they were pretty free with me and my sisters. And I, I credit that to the fact that we grew up like mostly well adjusted, right? Yeah. Like we, we all have our little idea of ressies, but it's so interesting the amount of pressure that you put on yourself, right? Yeah. Or what you shut down. Mm-hmm. And for me it was. That I had learned to like chess checklist things, and I was not being introspective about what it was that I really wanted. Mm-hmm. And it wasn't until my husband went through his heart attack that he was the first one to point it out to me. He's like, dude, you're living your life like an ostrich, like you're in the sand. And you know, like you're just so focused on your list. You're not realizing that like. Things that you should be taking care of for yourself or like falling apart and exploding. Right? Yeah. Yeah. And it was such an interesting thing that I just like learned to turn it off so that I could get through my list. The list, yeah. Because the list was the right thing to do. Right. Or at least that's where the thoughts were coming from. Yeah. And when I learned to let go of the, well, maybe I don't have to do what's on that list. Yeah, yeah. Right.

Sarah Centrella 23:59

Maybe I could try to be present even for five minutes or 10 minutes, or.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 24:03

Exactly right. And like it changed my life. So I love this idea of empowering women to take charge of their thoughts mm-hmm. And as they're making those changes and manifesting those changes for themselves, what are some other things that you see come up for women? Because the process is never linear for anything we do. It's always gonna be starts and stops, peaks and valleys until you, but I do believe that you can still continue to have progress in whatever direction you wanna go. Right. Oh,

Sarah Centrella 24:31

abs ab up, down,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 24:32

sideways. Yeah,

Sarah Centrella 24:33

absolutely. I think one of the things that I see, is when women tend to hit like 40 and on, they have this idea or this notion that I guess I'm done. You know, I guess like all the opportunities that I was supposed to chase, all the things I was supposed to do, wanted to do, I guess that's over, you know? Yeah. And I don't know where that comes from. I mean, me media, I guess, whatever, but. Nothing could be more insane. Like nothing could be more insane than that. Like that's crazy talk. Yeah, I think, the person that I am now at 50 is, oh my god, such a better human than I was at 30. You know, even then I was at 40. Like, it's so true. What they say that like not only do you grow in all these other ways, and yes our body changes and there's a lot of it that's frustrating, but you also. Get this sense of, you know who you are. Yes. You know, you stop caring about what everybody else thinks. You stop the judgment game, you stop kind of all of that, and you come into your own. And that is such a beautiful thing. And I think especially, at least for me, I intentionally guide that with doing things like my I am statements, and so I use those all the time to make sure that I am always growing, that I am always kind of morphing into who I am becoming. So they don't like stagnant out and get to that place where life feels me. Like I always want to be growing, to be pushing myself to find a piece of my life that I'm like, Hey, you know, I could up level here, I could push here. If I'm bored here, what do I need to do to shake that up? Or to totally pivot or to drop it and start something new yeah. You know, and so all of those things I think we're really afraid to do. Maybe in our thirties or twenties or whatever. But I think there's a lot of freedom that comes, with just knowing like, Hey, this is my life. Yeah. I'm gonna get the absolute best that I can. And I think once you learn how to align your mindset with some of those goals,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 26:27

yeah, you

Sarah Centrella 26:27

feel really, truly unstoppable. Like most of the time our mindset is sabotaging everything we're actually doing.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 26:33

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 26:34

Because the whole time we're doing the thing. Putting in the hustle, putting in the work, showing up, whatever our mindset is saying, the opposite of all that is true. So it's telling us, this isn't gonna work, this isn't gonna succeed. You're too old, you're too this, you're too that. Right. And if I don't know how to shut that shit down. Change it. To be like, you are ready for this. You're on fire. The world needs to hear what you have to say like. Y today's the day, let's go. If I'm not putting those two things together, I'm never gonna get where I wanna go. Yeah. I'm just be fighting myself the whole entire time. So it's such a powerful thing.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 27:11

It really is. And I'll say that with working on all of these things, I am a much, like you said, you feel like you're a much better human at 50. I feel like I am a much kinder person to myself mm-hmm. At, right. Yes. How I was treating myself in my twenties and thirties is so different than how I'm treating myself in my forties. And it is a very empowering feeling. Yeah. And it's hard to balance right when you physiologically start feeling crappy, but to your point, like if you're able to harness that power in your mind, you can then go out and make changes, right? Yeah. And part of that includes building a life that you want, but then also seeking the help for whatever else might be going on in your absolutely. In your life that you would ignore and otherwise shut down. I always wondered where that. At least when I was a kid, I don't know if you saw this like, but my parents' friends would give each other these cards at like when they turned 40. Yeah. Go over the hill. Over the hill. You're over the hill. Yeah. It's all, everything

Sarah Centrella 28:11

back. Like this is the morning. I'm freaking happy to be here. Thank you very much. Yes,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 28:15

yes. It's not like we're like one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel at 40. Right? No, really. I had a mentor who used to say, who used to say that for like people who were close to making their transition to the afterlife. And I don't feel like it has to feel like that in your forties. Right. And it's such a beautiful time of like mental and emotional growth. That we need to be grabbing towards that instead of shying away from it.

Sarah Centrella 28:40

Yeah. And such a simple tie in is if I am dreading those milestones, right? Yeah. If I'm like, oh my God, I don't wanna be 50, I'm about to be old, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Or if I'm telling myself every day kind, I feel old. Oh, I'm looking old. I'm getting this, I'm getting that. Whatever. Yeah. I mean, we all do that, but if that's where my focus is all the time,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 28:59

yeah.

Sarah Centrella 29:00

Then I will feel old and I will prematurely age, and I will also. Not be taking care of myself. Yeah. The way that I would if I felt that I was youthful and beautiful.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 29:11

Yes.

Sarah Centrella 29:12

Right? Yes. So that is how your mindset dictates your actual act actions, the things you actually do.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 29:19

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 29:19

So if instead, I'm telling myself every morning in my. Morning practice. I am beautiful. I am sexy. I'm vibrant. I feel fantastic. God, I'm in the best shape of my life. I feel all of those could be total freaking lies, by the way.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 29:34

I love that. Like

Sarah Centrella 29:35

full lies. Yeah. Because remember they are, they're pulling me to where I wanna go.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 29:40

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 29:40

So they're kind of at the top of the ladder throwing me a line and I'm like using it to get up there. Right? Yeah. So I want them to feel. Almost like lies because that's how I have to retrain the programming in. Yeah. My head and our brain works just like a computer. Yeah. So if I'm not putting in a new program, I'm only gonna be running the old one over and over again. Right. Yeah. So I remember the very first I that I ever used was right after my ex-husband left. And I was, you know, after the twins. It was the heaviest point in my life. It felt horrible. Okay. Literally had these nasty, nasty voice in my head that all day, every day told me how awful I looked and how terrible I, you know, it was so nasty, right? And I just remember one day going like, this does not make me wanna go to the gym. This does not make me wanna skip on ice. You know, like yeah. Listening to that voice all day, it just makes you feel like, well, who cares? I guess I'll just sit here

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 30:35

and let it happen.

Sarah Centrella 30:35

Right.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 30:36

Gonna give up.

Sarah Centrella 30:36

Yeah. So how I even came a across like these tools is one day I just said, I'm done with that. That feels terrible, and I don't wanna feel terrible anymore. Yeah. I just remember looking in the mirror and I was like, you're beautiful. You're sexy, you're amazing. Your body looks great. Your body's responding quickly. Yeah. You look great easily. So I just started reversing all the lies. Yeah. That I'm telling myself and. I only did it because I felt better in the moment. I didn't think it would have any long-term impact, but the more that I did it, the more I felt that way. The more I showed up that way, the more I got dressed. Yeah. Instead of wore sweatpants, the more I put makeup on instead of, you know, like not showering for a week. Yeah. And it started changing how the energy I was projecting into the world, which changed how people responded to me. Yeah. Which I went from being totally invisible to being seen again. You know? So like that's how it tangibly. Makes a difference. And then probably about a year later, I remember I was like walking by a store, you know, window and caught a glimpse of myself and I was like, damn, girl, you hot so good. It was this automatic thing where I was like, oh my God, I really feel like all the things I've been saying. So for all the women out there, we all grew up with. I call her nasty bitch. Sorry, who's in our head, whose job it is to tear us down. Never met a woman who doesn't have that voice in their head. Right? But we don't have to listen to her anymore. You literally turn the other one on and be like, fill me up, girl. Fill me up. Let's go.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 32:01

Yeah, your inner hype woman, right? Yep.

Sarah Centrella 32:03

And you become her. You show up as her people respond to you as her, and that starts changing everything. It starts opening doors instead of closing them, starts bringing amazing new people into your life. It starts.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 32:14

Yeah,

Sarah Centrella 32:15

giving you the aura and the energy that attracts all the things you want. It's really powerful and very simple.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 32:21

It's so beautiful how simple it is Yeah. And how complicated we make it. And it's,

Sarah Centrella 32:26

yeah, exactly. It's, yeah. It's like, nope, a 2-year-old could do this, y'all.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 32:31

Yeah. It's so true. Right? And it's amazing. Like you look at little kids. And they have that fearlessness in them, right? They think they can do anything. I mean, my husband told me that when he was like three, he was convinced he was superman, tied a sheet around his neck and jumped out of a two story window. Luckily landed in some bushes and it was all good. I think maybe he like scraped himself up a little bit, but it's like that degree of like fearlessness, we are conditioned to lose over time. Such a great tool to reclaim that, right? Mm-hmm. Especially in a period of our life where we shouldn't just accept, you know, the over the hill trope of, you know, blah, everything's gonna be in a decline now. Yeah. No, this is that reclamation of your power in midlife, and I love that. Right? Or at any point in your life, right, at any point in your life that you need this tool, whether you're in your younger years or older years, you can reclaim that power for yourself. You get to, to change. Absolutely.

Sarah Centrella 33:28

And it just feels so much better. Like you go through the day with so much more energy, you have confidence. That confidence, you know, like I said, is mirrored out and brought back to you all day long, every day. Yeah. We all know what that feels like.'cause we've all had those highs, right? We've all been on a winning streak or whatever. This is a tool that will keep you in that energy that you make happen for yourself all the time. So you're not waiting for that thing to happen to make you feel like, oh, now I'm winning. Because sometimes that might, that, that could be a year in between those types of wins. Right? True. I'm not trying to put the rest of the year in blah land, you know? No, no, no, no. So like this is how I bring that energy into my daily life on a daily basis. So that I feel that way.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 34:15

That is fabulous. So tell me more about the vision boards. Like I wanna know how to create one of these or future boards, that's what you call it, the future boards. Yeah. I wanna know how to create these or teach our listeners how to create these where you are. Able to bring to fruition all of the things that you're manifesting. Like that's such a beautiful concept.

Sarah Centrella 34:36

Yeah. The first thing to kind of note is that I always have all of my clients write down their life plan story. And I can send you the link and you can share it with your Yeah, yeah. With your clients. Um,'cause it gives them the breakdown of exactly how to do this assignment. It forces you to really think about what is, what do I want? What is my, yeah. Perfect ideal future look like? Like if I'm allowed to have that wish, which you are. Yeah. What does it look like if my career is super fulfilling and I love it and the schedule isn't too crazy and I'm getting paid what I am deserving and yes. All those little things that annoy me. What if they were all fixed and it was really, really great? And what if my relationships were just like beautiful and healthy and fulfilling and loving? And so you go through all these categories. What if physically I felt amazing? What if. On a mental side, like I felt strong and was taking the time to de-stress, but I was also growth too. So I go through these various categories. Money is great. Things are going really well on that, and it forces you to write out, okay, if all that's true, what does that look like for me? Can I draw that up? Can I architect it? Yeah. And the thing is, is that most of us go through our lives after our twenties. With zero plan or very little plan.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 35:49

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 35:49

For the rest of our lives. Right, because the, your entire childhood, everyone's asking you what do you wanna be when you grow up, right? Yep. And then you go to school. What are you majoring in? What are you, whatever. Okay, now you got a job. What are your job? No one ever asks you after that, and so we forget to ask ourselves. Yeah. We stop planning, you know? Yeah. We might be like, Hey, I wanna get married or wanna have kids, but like for the most part. All that goal setting, we were doing all that vision setting, all those dreams that we had, the first 20, maybe 30 years of our life just falls off Cliff, and we just let life unfold and hope good things will happen.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 36:24

When those plans don't work out the way that you want them to, you feel like you're stuck. Right? Yeah. I remember leaving my first job. And being devastated and like crying to my husband that I'm, I was supposed to be at this job forever. Mm-hmm. And he got me down and he was like, are you delusional? I was like, but I did everything on the list and I'm supposed to be here forever. And he's like. That's the wildest thing I've ever heard. Like, no, that's not rooted in reality. Right? No. So I feel like this is a great way to kind of shift that out of that. Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 36:59

And also it's a way to check in with yourself. I always have my clients do it at the beginning of the year, every year. So you're checking in with yourself'cause you grow, right? Yeah. In this last six months we've grown. In the last year, we've definitely grown. And that's when you check in and say like, Hey, is this job really serving me? Yeah. Am I really miserable or am I just having bad attitude about it every day? And if I wasn't doing this job, what would I do? And what's holding me back? So it, it gives you that introspective to see like, am am I moving towards the life that I want and the things that I want? Or am I kind of in this stagnant space where fear and doubt are? Keeping me from making any type of move. So this exercise, the life plan story, which I'll send to you is just a great spot to give you permission to totally dream and scope it all out, build that architecture foundation, and then we go over to Pinterest and we literally start searching up everything in the story. And so, you know, we start going like, okay, if I am successful, let's say I'm successfully running my own company. What can I create? Kind of a visual, what does that, what does one of those days look like? Is that me leading a seminar? Is that me working one-on-one with a client? Is it me on a big, big stage or whatever your goals or dreams are, and then you're just literally like woman stage photography and you're searching it up. And most people don't know this, but Pinterest is the largest photography library on the entire internet.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 38:23

I did not. No, no.

Sarah Centrella 38:24

Yeah. Most people use it for DIY or recipes or whatever. If you add the word photography to any search, you're gonna see a whole different side of Pinterest, and it's really inspiring and really exciting because it starts to become everything that's in your little personal brain. All of a sudden you're seeing it in front of you. You're seeing hundreds of examples of people living this dream that maybe never told anyone you even had.'cause you were so scared'cause it felt so big. And now you see all these versions of people living this dream. So it's real. Someone's doing it. And then you can find a picture that's like, oh my God, that's me doing. The thing I wanted to do. And so every single picture is like that. Which is why this is so different than a traditional vision board because those are just magazine collages that mean nothing. This is very, very intentionally architecting my future. Yes. And it's helping me identify what matters to me, why it matters. And it is showing is huge. That's possible. And it's showing me what my future is, showing me what I'm working towards. And I've had 12 boards now in the last 15 years come to life, like 60 to 70% in a year on an annual basis. Amazing. Um, I've taken my kids to seven countries. I've. For the last four years, held international retreats all over the world.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 39:40

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 39:40

Manifested, love manifested like a new career over and over, like, I mean, the list goes on and on and on. My son manifested his dream playing football at Oregon. So amazing. There's just, there's really no limit to what you can, you can ask for and put out there and live.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 39:57

Yeah. I, I love that, and I love that you've passed those principles down to your kids too. I mean, what an amazing tool to grow up with. I, I always feel like we'd be. More functional, not functional. I think more inspired human beings. Yeah. If we were able to harness that at a younger age.

Sarah Centrella 40:14

Oh my gosh. Me too. Brain's

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 40:16

not ready either. Right. So

Sarah Centrella 40:17

I always tell parents, I'm like, teach them what you're learning. Because if we knew how to control our thoughts, if we knew how to turn around that negative way, said 7, 8, 9, 10, whatever.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 40:27

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 40:27

Where would we be? You know? Yeah. So you can absolutely teach your kids. I started pumping my son full of those I am affirmations creating who he wanted to be, but who he wasn't at the time, back when he was like six years old, you know, he was the type that wanted to give up real quick if he didn't get it right. And I'd be like, you are so determined. You're the most determined kid I've ever known. That kid was not determined, but he got there. But because I was constantly putting it in his head. Yeah, right. Then he stopped giving up so easily and he started being more determined and literally his coaches in college would be like that. Kid's so determined and that would be something that he would describe himself as now as an adult. Yeah. You know, so that, that's the evolution of what I tell myself.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 41:12

Oh, amazing. Yeah. That's fabulous. Wow. It's crazy. So yeah. It's like Jedi minds, right?

Sarah Centrella 41:19

You, you feel like superhuman a little bit. You're like, oh my God, I made that happen.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 41:25

Yes. So how do you teach people to identify what their priorities are when they're, when they're doing this? For those of us who are out there who wanna improve multiple areas in their lives, like how do you prioritize? Like, what is going to be the most important thing? Or can you work on all of them at the same time? Yeah. Ooh. Right. Maybe that's a limiting thought that you only have to do one at a time.

Sarah Centrella 41:47

Yeah. Such a good question. I get that a lot because my future boards and my whole method is based on five core categories of life. And those are. Relationships, which means all people in your life, your career and your ambitions and, your wealth and abundance, your mind and body and your passions and joys. So for me and the coaching that I've done over the last 15 years, I've really found that those are the main categories anyway, that when we are putting energy into all of those, we feel fulfilled. When we're not, we don't. So I would say. As a general rule, most Americans put all their energy into career, some energy into relationships.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 42:28

Mm-hmm.

Sarah Centrella 42:29

And maybe 20% of'em put it into exercise on the body side. That's a, that's, but that's Leave an overestimation on the table. Yeah. Hot on the table. And then we wonder like, why do I feel stressed all the time? Yeah. Why am I so obsessed about my job? Why is my family complaining about because I'm not present and I'm not enjoying life. It's because I don't have these other components. And the first time I went to Italy, it just impacted everything about my life. I saw just how different humans can live.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 43:02

Yes.

Sarah Centrella 43:02

And be successful. I think there's a misnomer that, you know, Europeans aren't successful. They just lay around and drink and eat all day and whatever. Like, I'm sorry. There's a lot of very, very successful Yeah, exactly. Who are successful, uh, but they know how to balance, right? Mm-hmm.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 43:19

You're

Sarah Centrella 43:20

fine with taking a two hour lunch because they're with an old friend and Yeah. They know how to savor a meal and that is important. And so that becomes this pocket of joy that is sacred to them. And then they'll go back and get their work done. Right? Those are just the types of things that we don't do here and we don't necessarily know their value. And so we just steam ahead with our crazy schedules and on we go. But if we were able to like slow down a little bit and say, Hey, what brings me joy? And most of the time I will tell you women especially can't answer that. At all. They have no, they just look at me like I'm crazy. They're just like, what are you talking about?

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 43:57

I'll be honest, like I, I was in that boat, right? Because when you go through a bunch of different things in life for me it was like my training and my education, I dropped all of these hobbies that I used to, yeah. Right? Yep. So then I end up in motherhood and starting my career without having those things that were previously bringing me joy. Joy and passion and balance. Yes. And balance and all of those things. And then you hit a point where, you know, I was talking to my husband, our son's 13, and it's only gonna be five years before he's out of the house and we're empty nesters. Right. And that's gonna fly by I, right. I was like, oh my God. We need hobbies. Yeah, we absolutely, because I see my patients struggle. Right. When they retire, they don't know what they're gonna do with themselves. Yes. So afterwards. But I think that practice of trying to figure out how to build those passions and joys, it's something I'm actively working on. Mm-hmm. I'd love to hear what you have to advise people to do that. Right? Because for somebody who used to have a ton of hobbies and drop them all, like hot potatoes along the way. Yeah. I don't know what to do with myself now. I was like, what do I even start with?

Sarah Centrella 44:57

Exactly. No, I would say that is the reaction I get almost a hundred percent of the time when I first wrote Hustle, believe, receive, I did a book tour and I was explaining the five categories or whatever, and I used to call them hobbies.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 45:08

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 45:09

The whole, like the whole room is just like. Huh? What does that mean? Like,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 45:15

yeah,

Sarah Centrella 45:15

like what's, who has time for a hobby? My kids do hobbies, right? And so I changed it to passions and joys.'cause I was like, you know, gotta gotta work with what we have. But I think if you can take a moment and say, throughout my life, and probably go back to childhood, that's usually where people can kind of reengage in something that brings them joy. Say, what did I used to do that I just. Did it'cause I loved it.'cause I really looked forward to it.'cause it was really fun. And for me, when I was a kid, I had a horse and I used to be obsessed with horses and I loved horses.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 45:47

Yeah.

Sarah Centrella 45:48

And as an adult, I've never ridden a horse or really been around a horse. So when I started looking at this, I was like. Maybe horses would still bring me joy. And so we go out to the ranch about five miles from here and volunteer and we just like brush the horses and talk to the horses and feed the horses like, you know, and it's this great little one hour a week that's just like total zen. Yeah.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 46:11

Total

Sarah Centrella 46:12

checkout, you know, brings back kind of that feeling of childhood joy again is something very simple, but it's a way that I can integrate that into my life now and still get that benefit. Another one for me when I came back from Italy was cooking. I was like, oh, I see the passion for food and like, I want that type of mom. I wanna teach my kids to love food like that. And so I just did. I came back and I started cooking and I wasn't great at it. And I just kept going, kept going, and then I started getting better at it. And that's the part of the passions and joys that is really key. If you can pick something, whatever it is. Could be dancing. Could be, yeah. Gardening could be DIY. It doesn't matter. But it's typically a doing. So it's an activity with your hands or with your body, right? And it's something that you will get better at over time. So that's an important component to it. Just like we understand as moms that it's important our kids go through that, right? That is why we put them in all the activities we put them in. Yes. Because we wanna teach them how to get better at something over time. Because that builds confidence. Mm-hmm. Right. It builds self-esteem, it does all these things. But we forget to do that for ourselves, right? If you always wanted to take a cooking class, the first couple cooking classes, you probably are not gonna like it. Just like your kid did not like soccer when they started soccer, right? And what did you tell them? Keep going. Just go this year if you hated them, what? Right. Then we'll stop. Do the same thing with yourself, right? Say, I'm gonna sign up for 12 cooking classes. And I'm gonna show up for all 12. And if after that, I never wanna touch a pan again. Cool. That wasn't for me. But my guess is you'll get better over time and you'll actually start to find that pocket of joy. And those are the pieces that we're missing in our life. So it just takes a little experimenting at first. I've had clients who, started playing guitar. And that was kind of their one thing that they had put off their whole life and just started bringing back in. Got a little online tutor and, you know, two years later playing guitar and really love it. And that's a de-stressor for them, you know? So it could be anything. It could be golf, it could be, I try to stay away from exercise'cause that's has its own category. We need to keep them separate, but this is really something that. That brings you joy that you can see get better over time, that you get satisfaction from. You build something, you feel satisfied. When you weed a garden, you feel satisfied. It takes a little bit of creative thinking. But start with what I liked as a kid, as a teenager, even in my early twenties. And then if you're still struggling, go try those things again. Like one at a time. And if you're still struggling, then think like, what have I seen on TV? Or you know, in books or movies that seemed really cool. And then we give that a try, right? And we just, we keep trying new things and it's so good for your brain. It's so good for all of your motor cognition. It's so good for all of it, right? It helps you feel young, keeps you young. Most importantly, it becomes this tool that. Allows you to have a pure pocket in your life, whether it's an hour, half, hour, whatever, that that pure focus of the doing forces you to block out everything else, the stress, the whatever. So it becomes almost an act of meditation. And those are the types of things we don't do. And then we wonder why we're so fricking stressed. Anything that like lets it go.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 49:21

Yeah. It's so funny that you say that.'cause I was thinking back to my mom when I was little, she put me in sewing lessons, right? Mm-hmm. And she put my sisters and stuff, and my sisters didn't really love it, but I loved it with a passion to the point where like, I did some costuming for some Oh, I love that. School and high school. And then, when we were in medical school, we had a winter formal. And, you know, you're, when you're a med student, you're, yeah. And so like the last few years I made dresses for some of my Oh, love that. It was just, it was something that was like very meditative to me. Yep. And I remember I was sitting for my first board exam in medical school, which is called the US Emily. Mm-hmm. And it's one of the hardest ones. You've never sat for an exam like that in your life, so you don't really know what to expect. Right, right. Very different than anything you took in college. And I was so stressed. I remember I was just like beyond. Like out of my mind. Yeah. And my mom knew, right? So she called and she said, well, I want you to go to Sears.'cause at that time, there were Sears everywhere. And I have something for you there that you're gonna go pick up and they're gonna tell you to go to the next door. And so she got me a sewing machine and she, I love her for the fabric, right? And she, she was like, you're gonna take the day off and go do a project and get de-stress and then you're gonna go back to your studying. Right? Like, you just need a, yeah. A solid break in there. So yeah, so maybe that's the thing I'd go back to.

Sarah Centrella 50:45

Brilliant.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 50:46

Now that I'm talking about it, I'm talking myself into like busting out my sewing machine and my serger. Exactly. Yeah,

Sarah Centrella 50:51

absolutely. Do it and, and, and don't, the big thing is like, I think a lot of times we have a tendency to over estimate. Yeah. You know, or, or set goals that are unreachable. I don't know why we love doing that, but we love doing that. I always say dream huge, dream unrealistic. But go do your goals the other way around. Yeah. Do your goals in little tiny bits and pieces. Yep. So that every time you sit down to do it, you're winning. And the only thing you're looking for there is can I just pull it out for 30 minutes and just like have fun with it? See if I remember how to like thread the needle and Yeah. Pull out some patterns and, and then when you're done, just ask yourself like, was I thinking about all the other stuff? And you'll just start to really see like, oh, I get it now. Yeah. Like I wasn't stressed about work. I wasn't stressed about whatever's going on in my life. I was actually focused, which, yep, active meditation.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 51:45

So

Sarah Centrella 51:45

I love that and I definitely challenge you to pull it back.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 51:48

Okay, well I'll, I'll send you what I may, I'll show you what I may, I love

Sarah Centrella 51:52

it. I'll send

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 51:53

you a photo. I'll like what?

Sarah Centrella 51:53

Start sending, I'm sending you patterns, girl. Yeah,

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 51:56

please do. I actually wanna go find like vintage patterns because I love fashion and clothes and just see if I can find like any vintage patterns and maybe make something outta, oh my God, like a

Sarah Centrella 52:07

1940s like flare dress. I'd be so with pockets.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 52:11

Yes, with pockets, pockets are crucial. Yes. Always. Yes and custom tailored. One of my big gripes, and this is a very random aside, is how can men can go into, like, I know, apply and get measured and walk out looking like a million bucks in an hour and I'm. Walking through the racks at like Nordstrom or like whatever other store I'm at in the mall, and like an hour later I have Yeah, exactly. I They do tailor. They do tailor, right. But it's, uh, it's a, a different process I think than, yeah. So, no, I,

Sarah Centrella 52:44

I love it. I think that, that, I think you're going to see definitely that little benefit. And then you just. See if you can do it for half hour, an hour a week initially. Just be like, Hey, okay, sit down. And then as it, you know, as you get better, you get more passionate about it, and you have more, you make more time for it, right? And then you'll really, really start to see the benefit.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 53:04

Okay. All right. Well, I will report back to you and to our listeners about what my output was from my sewing machine. So I love it. Thank you so much. This has been such a fabulous conversation. I feel like you and I could talk for hours, which we kind of did, did at the pool side anyway. But, uh, I just, I just wanna say thank you for coming on here and sharing your thoughts and how you managed to change your life in such an inspiring way. Aw. I knew it from the moment that I met you, that you were a special person, and then learning more about what you do and getting to know you over these last several weeks. I, I just feel so blessed to have you in my life and should so thank you. Thank you for being, feeling is mute. For our listeners, Sarah is hosting a series of book events. Mm-hmm. When her book comes out, I believe it's January Yeah. Of 2026. She's going to be having an event here in Seattle. It's at sarah centrella.com. And if you are not in the Pacific Northwest, there are events around the country. That are associated with her book release, you get to meet her in person. Do you wanna talk a little bit about what the events will be like? Yeah, because I registered, I'm ready to go.

Sarah Centrella 54:12

I love it. Yeah, they are mindset workshops. So I'm gonna be actually teaching the tools that are in my new book. Think It. They're four hour workshops, so you're really gonna come in, bring a notepad, bring a pen, and I'm gonna teach you how to not only, you know, do mental tennis, but. There I have seven tools total, that are brain trainers. Train your brain just like mental, you know, mental fitness is the new self-care. I always say it is the thing that will impact every aspect of your life the quickest. And just make the biggest impact. So, yeah, come, I can't, I have one in Portland, and Seattle, and then 15 other cities across the country.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 54:50

Thank you Sarah. Have a great rest of your day and I will look forward to connecting with you soon. To all our listeners, again, you can find everything you need to know about sarahcentrella.com. I'll link that below in the show notes as well as links to her books that are coming out and the one that you can pre-order for a January release, which is called Think It. Have a great day everyone, and I'll see you on the next episode.

Sarah Centrella 55:11

Thanks Komal.

Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia 55:13

Hi everyone. It's me again. Wasn't that a fabulous episode? I just really loved chatting with Sarah and hearing everything that she had to say, and I'm so excited for the release of her upcoming book and her event here in Seattle. I hope that you are able to make it out there. I'd love to meet you in real life, and I think it would be great for all of us to learn from her. I learned so much recording this episode. I learned about mental tennis and how to turn around thoughts and make them from negative to positive. I didn't realize we had 70 to 80,000 thoughts that were just bubbling up for us per day, and how many of'em were negative. So I hope that you took that away. Second, this concept of future boards. I love it. I am looking at making my own to see just what I can manifest. I think harnessing that power in whatever stage of life you're in can be so empowering. And then I wanted to recap about Sarah's Centrella method, which focuses on five key areas of your life as you're trying to manifest what you want for your future. Number one, relationships. Number two, career and ambitions. Number three, wealth and abundance. Number four, mind and body. And number five, passion and joys. I really hope that you all got as much out of this episode as I did. Thank you for your support.