Cheeky Run Club

Running for a cause

• Phoebe Pincus & Anna Coldham • Season 4 • Episode 4

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Happy Monday cheeky pals!! 

Couple of big items on the agenda this week: 

  • Get deep on moving for a cause with Jenna (check out her mospace here)
  • Give you a long-awaited merch update!!
  • Introduce you to your latest and greatest weekly weapon (do your homework here)
  • Keep each other accountable to some cross training and sleep goals
  • Discuss Anna's transition to a Hybrid Athlete 🤝

Sponsor shoutout: Kic has now added Marathon to their KICRUN training program repertoire for people wanting to build confidence and consistency in their running. You can use the code CHEEKYRUN for one month free. Thank-you to Kic for making this episode of Cheeky possible.

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Music produced by Hugh Raper. Logo design by Michael Cotellessa. Podcast edited by Kiara Martin.

Phoebe:

Cheeky Run Club recognizes that every day we live, work, and run on Aboriginal land.

Anna:

We're proud to say that this episode is sponsored by Kick and their brand new marathon training program.

Phoebe:

Welcome to Cheeky Run Club, the social running podcast and community for your everyday amateur runner. hello, Anna,

Anna:

Mrs.

Phoebe:

and hello, listeners. This week, we're talking about

Anna:

about running for purpose. From the launch of Cheeky, we have been super passionate about exploring why people run. And you're about to hear from someone who has a truly compelling reason. She's one of our good friends who you would have heard us talk about many a times. And she's also an ambassador for Movember.

Phoebe:

we are also going to check in and hold ourselves accountable to the goals we set last week around sleep and rehab. And we're going to chat to you a little bit about merch

Anna:

We're then going to finish it off by bringing back the weekly weapon segment.

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I'm

Anna:

really excited by this and I feel like this is cool because it's a joint one.

Phoebe:

is a joint one. Yeah, we are jointly bringing this weekly weapon segment to you.

Anna:

first of all, let's kick it off. How with our best,

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first of

Phoebe:

it

Anna:

off as always with our best. With our best and

Phoebe:

I would say

Anna:

tired

Phoebe:

Yeah, so we decided we'd take a few deep grounding breaths, but I don't think it's made any

Anna:

It clearly hasn't made any difference. I still can't speak. Anyway, we are going to kick it off with our notable runs slash running adjacent activities this week. Phoebes, give me, give me a worst. I want to end on a high.

Phoebe:

hear them high. Sounds good. Okay. My worst running related experience this week was actually Pilates related. I've been been using ClassPass, which for those who haven't used it, ClassPass kind of, it avoids you having to sign up to one specific studio. You can kind of access most studios through it. And it sort of makes it a bit cheaper. I don't actually know how

Anna:

cheaper. although I never actually know, because you pay in credits.

Phoebe:

Yeah, it has so many different ones. And I think it makes it cheaper, although I never actually know, because you pay in credits. It's very mysterious whether it's actually cheaper. Maybe I'm paying more, I don't know. Anyway, the, Pilates place. Oh, actually, I don't know if I should, I should shame them because it was just, um,

Anna:

Maybe I'll say it. It

Phoebe:

maybe I'll say it. It wasn't corpus. We love

Anna:

is Republic. Don't

Phoebe:

yeah. Okay. fine. Pilates Republic. Have you been there before? No, I have not.

Anna:

No matter

Phoebe:

yeah, I think I've gotten used to corpus and they're just no matter what teacher you go to, It's a really good quality, high standard class. Whereas this class was just quite chaotic. For one, it was only like, I reckon a quarter full, which is a weird vibe. I went in in the morning and they blacked out the room and there's just like, fluorescent lights kind of, Oh no, not fluorescent. What's it like neon lights on the wall. So it kind of feels like it's the middle of the night, even though it's like a beautiful day outside.

Anna:

like, checking out. No. This is

Phoebe:

No, it is a bit of a hit vibe. Yeah, it is a hit vibe. And,

Anna:

just

Phoebe:

I was like, Oh, Like good on you for trying to do a new like try out a new place, but I won't be trying again I'll be reverting back to core plus

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nice.

Phoebe:

Um, tell me about your worst running related experience

Anna:

I reckon you can probably guess. my worst running experience ended in tears on Tuesday morning. Um, I'm like almost crying thinking about it more just because it's kind of funny. Now it wasn't at the time, but I went for a run Tuesday morning with the group. It was Melbourne cup day. So it was a public holiday. We did track Tuesday, which. Started a little bit later. It was the most perfect day, like perfect temperature. The vibes were high. Everyone was just out running. I wasn't doing a track session. I was just jogging around for my hammy. I think, sorry, go back a couple of steps over the weekend. It felt quite good. And then Monday my hammy was feeling quite good. So. I think I was sort of quietly confident that it would be fine. So I hadn't really thought twice about it, but I just, you know, started the run thinking this is such a nice morning. It's going to be a beautiful morning for a run. and as we spoke about last week, one of the reasons why I stopped doing. The running program was so that I would, if my hammy was sore, I would, I think we even mentioned on the board last week that it'll be a real test to see whether I do stuff anyway. I, yeah, I got like five and I got about five and a half Ks in, by which point I was actually running by myself because I wasn't doing a session. Um, so just did a little loop around the river and I just thought, this is so sore. There is absolutely no point me running.

Phoebe:

So it was way

Anna:

Yeah, yeah, but like, yeah, it was, it was really, really sore. So I just thought I'll stop so it doesn't get worse. And then I had a long 2k walk or at least 2k is probably home. Um, and then, cause I thought, Oh, I have a lot of time before you all finish track and get coffee. So. I'll just walk home first. And I got home and I saw Dave and I, I don't, I just started crying. Anyway, we had a little hug and then I regrouped and thought I'm going to take Ted down to the cafe, still get the vibes, even if I didn't run anyway. And then I got down there and I think I'd already had a few tears with our soon to be guests, Jenna and Molly. Anyway. And then our other friend, Carly, not to throw her under the bus, but she asked a question, which was completely fair enough. Just like.

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Yeah,

Phoebe:

Innocent.

Anna:

know when, yeah, completely, whereas normally I'd probably like give it back to her. But I just absolutely grumbled. And then, you know when you start crying and then, you're just a train wreck. And then I just almost, yeah, anytime, like someone would say something else, which wasn't even relevant to me. Or being like, my coffee's too hot. And I'd just start crying again. Anyway.

Phoebe:

when you're in that, you're so fragile and you're in that

Anna:

Yeah, it's crazy. I just kept looking at Ted to be

Phoebe:

Yeah, it was nice

Anna:

what

Phoebe:

Ted there. Bit of a therapy dog. So why, what do you, I mean, obviously it's upsetting. But what do you think it was that was really like, tipped you over in that moment? Yeah, I

Anna:

I was trying to think of that later in the day because I'm not actually much of a crier and

Phoebe:

instance, that's

Anna:

that one instance is not really a reason. I think it was maybe just the accumulation of. Constantly just being a bit disappointed and saddened by things. And then also I, I feel as if recently I have gone into each run sort of half expecting to not be able to finish it. Whereas this time I kind of had my guard down a

Phoebe:

And then

Anna:

then I think as well, it was one of those mornings and I feel as if the Tuesday public holidays that land on a Tuesday. Uh, some of the best runs of the year because it's way more relaxed. Um,

Phoebe:

nice. yeah. Yeah. And

Anna:

think I maybe just hadn't really acknowledged that prior to going for a run.

Phoebe:

yeah, it exactly. And think as well,

Anna:

Yeah, yeah. And I, yeah, exactly. And I think as well, I just feel like I'm a bit lost. I feel like I just keep going in a loop and I don't really know what to do or what I'm doing wrong. You know, with other stuff, you sort of think that you're progressing, even if it's like very, very slowly, but I just kind of feel like I go one step forward, then five steps back and I never, it's just so

Phoebe:

can't tell why like you so yeah, do you have any idea why it was was like was there anything you did on Monday or anything?

Anna:

Um, the only thing I can think of was I drove back from Port Ferry,

Phoebe:

Yeah Yeah

Anna:

Monday morning because we spent the weekend down there visiting my parents. But, even still, like, we drove down after work on Friday night, and then Saturday and Sunday it

Phoebe:

was

Anna:

So, I honestly don't

Phoebe:

Weird. Oh, that is so frustrating anyway,

Anna:

so if, yeah, if you were on Swan Street at what, 9am on Tuesday morning and saw a girl in tears, that was probably me.

Phoebe:

be

Anna:

know what? There's actually nothing, I never cry and Dave sometimes says to me, just let it out. And I just never, I can't, but I did on Tuesday morning and I, there's something quite nice about it. Afterwards, I thought, sort of thought, Oh, I'm so lucky to be, you know, have so many friends that are like, are you okay, blah, blah, blah. It was, yeah,

Phoebe:

there is really therapeutic about it.

Anna:

Yeah. Just having a big old cry. What was your best run or

Phoebe:

month. What was your best

Anna:

can do that. No, no, no.

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no.

Phoebe:

running experience? You're so morning! Yeah, do you

Anna:

never feel bad about

Phoebe:

you'll never feel bad? a few months ago and how hard running felt and it just, it feels like a different activity now. Like I just feel like I'm enjoying every run so much more. but especially, that's why my worst things have never been runs recently. Like I've been going back to my Strava and I'm like, I loved

Anna:

Every run. Yeah.

Phoebe:

Um, but

Anna:

nothing like a setback to really make you appreciate

Phoebe:

that is, that is very true. so best run I would say we're both my sessions this week. So Tuesday both times again, just like a group of friends and I'm loving feeling like I can push myself without it being like the hardest thing in the world that I'm then exhausted from afterwards. Like there is such a nice, it's such a nice feeling, like challenging myself, push myself, but then be able to bounce back from

Anna:

then to

Phoebe:

I'm giving myself the tools to be able to do that. Like the.

Anna:

I'm giving myself the

Phoebe:

Yeah. Yes. I've been really enjoying the sessions Tell me about your best running related experience this week.

Anna:

was this morning, I think as well, or maybe Wednesday morning. So I went to a, um, Jim. I was thinking, what are they, what are they called? Those big

Phoebe:

ones are called? I'm

Anna:

I'm not really sure. So a couple of us went to this place called Hurt Locker and they have these high intensity kind of weight classes. I don't even know what you call them. Hybrid. I think that's the, I think that's the, I think that's the term that's

Phoebe:

was gonna come

Anna:

flying around at the moment. It's a bit of a fad term.

Phoebe:

is officially as officially rebranded as a hybrid athlete

Anna:

I am so not. Anyway, it is, it's genuinely amazing going to these places because they do these circuits and these men and women are so strong. It is, Really inspiring. It is just a completely different kind of fitness anyway. So when on Wednesday with a couple of friends and then again this morning, and I think I really enjoyed it because I got my heart rate up and felt like I was pushing myself, which I just didn't. I honestly, well, I haven't been able to do, I mean, I did the one session with you and Ollie

Phoebe:

to kind of, be

Anna:

but aside from that since July, and it just feels so nice to kind of push yourself. Yeah. Cause I do in the pool a little bit, but I just can't, I can never really get my heart rate up. So this was really nice. Also, whoever invented, there's this thing called the assault bike. People are probably listening being, thinking, well,

Phoebe:

don't

Anna:

you know that already? It is so

Phoebe:

that already. It is so hard. So,

Anna:

it's, you're on an ergo bike, but then you're pushing with your arms as well. Um, back and forward.

Phoebe:

as well. Yes,

Anna:

yes, yeah, exactly. But the resistance is much harder. And you know, with a lot of. Things like the elliptical, even if you're going really hard, you get to a point, I feel, and it gets a bit easier. Whereas this, it's almost the harder you push, the harder

Phoebe:

push It

Anna:

Yeah, it's really hard. Anyway,

Phoebe:

Well, it's, I think it's so cool that in this period where you're injured and you can't run as much, you're able, you're like exploring different exercises and different ways to move your

Anna:

Yeah, exactly.

Phoebe:

we're going to chat to you a little bit about merch because our new merch is pretty much ready to launch. Summer season, no cheeky. Summer

Anna:

Season 24 25. Thanks to everyone who helped us on the Instagram vote for your preferential colors, that was very much appreciated. But yes, hopefully, the, the week that this is coming out, is also hopefully the same week that the shop is launching. So, keep your eyes peeled on Instagram.

Phoebe:

Yeah, keep your eyes peeled because this time we're doing it a little bit differently. And, rather than, um, ordering, um, Based on what rather than you guys all putting in your order and then us ordering it from The suppliers and then eventually getting that a few weeks later and then packing and sending to you We've actually pre ordered so there is only a limited number Um, whatever's up there in terms of sizes is what's there. So it'll be a bit of a first in best dressed situation

Anna:

also exciting because it means that you won't have to actually wait for three to four weeks before getting it. We will ship it out to you as,

Phoebe:

Straight away

Anna:

I was going to say as soon as your order comes in. But hopefully the next couple of business days,

Phoebe:

Yeah, next couple of business days, I

Anna:

yeah,

Phoebe:

Might take us two to, what do they say? Like two to four

Anna:

two to four business

Phoebe:

just for packing.

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Yeah.

Anna:

whatever the businesses say online.

Phoebe:

So today we are chatting to a very, very special guest, Jenna Fulton. If anyone has seen a photo or video of Anna and I, anything for Cheeky, this gal is probably the one behind the lens. if Cheeky was a triangle, she would be the third side, and we feel very honoured to have her here on the pod. About time.

Anna:

time. This is our

Phoebe:

was our first ever weekly weapon?

Anna:

Yeah, and probably first listener.

Phoebe:

no, she was. We sent her the draft.

Anna:

yeah, yeah. She was like, try again.

Phoebe:

Yes.

Anna:

aside from her full time role at Cheeky. Kind of joking. Um, Jenna is a Movember ambassador and has raised over 30, 000 for the cause. We talked to Jen about what made her want to become so heavily involved with Movember and what running adds to her life. This chat was really, really special. So we hope you all enjoyed it. you can find her on social media at Jenna Fulton. we'll also pop her link to her Mo Space in the show notes. And also just a quick content warning before we get into it. This chat covers grief, loss and suicide. If you would like to chat to someone, help is available. Please call Lifeline on 13 11 14. Also known as 13 11

jenna:

Hello Jenna, welcome to the show. very

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very much for having me. Long time supporter,

jenna:

long time

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with some

Phoebe/Anna:

the show. First time caller.

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to with us about

jenna:

All right. So let's wind the clock back little bit. Tell us how you got into running.

Phoebe/Anna:

I went into running from an early age, school, cross country, just really enjoyed it.

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Which where

Phoebe/Anna:

just through it

jenna:

baby

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actually

Phoebe/Anna:

I met Phoebe.

jenna:

were little tigers. When we'd run around together. Yes, um, and so did it. Yeah.

Phoebe/Anna:

It through there

jenna:

And then how did you fall in love with and when did you, I reckon, you fell in

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triathlon

Phoebe/Anna:

look at my running journey parts and it

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when I did altogether

Phoebe/Anna:

up running competitively and after my two year hiatus of running altogether once I quit. So I think I just loved running from an early and then

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it like something

Phoebe/Anna:

Later on in life to not like it. age

jenna:

was that?

Phoebe/Anna:

I just, it became something where it took away from of it. Where it was just always grinding,

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you're doing it. quite

Phoebe/Anna:

the joy

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

both of us

Phoebe/Anna:

cute. That's where

jenna:

Um, and then

Phoebe/Anna:

Yes, it has.

jenna:

just

Phoebe/Anna:

fell out of love with it. Um

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just did it for

Phoebe/Anna:

yeah, I didn't run for a little while. And then, once I started my first full time job, there was a really big running culture and I

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it

Phoebe/Anna:

go. like,

jenna:

the itch

Phoebe/Anna:

I think, But I would

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

have to

Phoebe/Anna:

until a halftime break. Um,

jenna:

time break.

Phoebe/Anna:

literally and then just from that I was like, oh, okay,

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today

Phoebe/Anna:

I wanna get

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um

Phoebe/Anna:

I kind fell in love when you that improvement again.

jenna:

Tell us about, how you get involved Movember and what's the reason behind YUMO?

Phoebe/Anna:

so it kind of is a long journey, a bit of a roller coaster.

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think

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, so back in 2013, I lost my

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

that surrounds men's

Phoebe/Anna:

I didn't about it for a really and I was a massive part

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And it

Phoebe/Anna:

surrounds men's mental health. And yeah, I just put it the side and that was it. And then it wasn't till that, have been 2018,

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dip little bit

Phoebe/Anna:

first full time job. Movember campaign and my friend Ben, he was like, get involved, come on. And I opened up a little bit more, him and in general about I wanted to do it. And then it kind of just built and on that. And throughout the years had fuel to the fire. I've had a couple of close lose their dad suicide. And 2021, I lost my psychologist suicide, which was something that it added another Brick to the wall where it like, like you can be a

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was big

Phoebe/Anna:

in field.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

why

Phoebe/Anna:

was Yeah, So, that was, yeah, a really big reason of why I got

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

involved. why. that was and then did

jenna:

Why, I mean you said initially you didn't about it, like talk us through why that was and then what did that change look like to go from not being talk about your to this like real for action and to make

Phoebe/Anna:

I think it was just so stigmatized and I know it's

jenna:

desire

Phoebe/Anna:

but it was so different back then, like of how it looks now. And me, I was almost guilty it was Why this happen? Would be

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of

Phoebe/Anna:

oh no,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

just like, oh

Phoebe/Anna:

and so, I don't know what clicked, but something inside me was like, oh, shouldn't be like this. And, yeah, that's how it, then it talk about this and it will normalise other people that are

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Yeah

jenna:

And when did you realize running tool to

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year it said I wasn't

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah, I think, for me that first year I did it. I, like I said, I wasn't much I can go for runs with people really running

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one bit more comfortable. I don't know what it directly at

Phoebe/Anna:

someone's eyes.

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personal and the lack of eye

jenna:

contact.

Phoebe/Anna:

And I would chat a bit more about like life or personal things and that way I was, I 60k the first time I did

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that were like that I wasn't necessarily

Phoebe/Anna:

it just built some relationships because people that were colleagues or friends that I wasn't necessarily

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

it was

Phoebe/Anna:

um, not that we're having deep chats every time we ran but it was a way to be getting to know someone and That's how it was person and they've been forced talk me half an hour. Yeah, I think as

jenna:

well, you know, when you're running, you're

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that

jenna:

have this sense of camaraderie You're in

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that

jenna:

and from

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personal

jenna:

to break down barriers that not a lot of, other social don't

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do.

jenna:

I want to ask you some more questions about, like how raised Movember past. But I thought before we did, do you want to actually explain what Movember is?

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah, so Movember is a leading, men's

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years

Phoebe/Anna:

And it here in Melbourne.

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a

Phoebe/Anna:

guys 21 ago now that were in bar trying to make cool again, and it was a point of conversation for them. years pretty

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just it's a

jenna:

Wow! Yeah,

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, and yeah, it just got bigger and bigger

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and now put

Phoebe/Anna:

um,

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help

Phoebe/Anna:

dollars. Um, and they, yeah, they put, they fund all these programs that

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fortunate

Phoebe/Anna:

Men's health, not only mental health, prostate cancer and other

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like

jenna:

You've raised an astonishing over 30, 000 for Movember. Um, how have you done that Considering you can't

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mustache I try.

jenna:

evolved

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face raiser.

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, yeah, so like I said, started with 60ks. really tough. But from there I like, Oh, I'm going to run more a bigger

jenna:

So that was like, you set a goal of I'm going to run 60Ks for the month of November?

Phoebe/Anna:

Yep, so 60 was the number because, um, globally, every 60 minutes,

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was

Phoebe/Anna:

that men die, um, from suicide. So, on average.

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that

Phoebe/Anna:

was the number that was encouraged. Like, you're going to choose a number, 60s. So that obviously home if

jenna:

number

Phoebe/Anna:

And, so the next year I I'm going to 120 doubled it. And then the next year I was I'm going to do 200k's. And we had a really good and like

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

48 So 78Ks in

Phoebe/Anna:

Four miles every four 48 hours. Um, 78 in two days. And we just camped out, stadium the Gold Coast.

jenna:

Oh, what was that

Phoebe/Anna:

oh, you really just go through the emotions with people, like why we do it. And you have chats and you get vulnerable. And it kind of the first time I opened up to my colleagues of why wanted do it, um,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

had

Phoebe/Anna:

And. That was very emotional. And so the next year,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

did

Phoebe/Anna:

I had been a little bit injured and

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

over

Phoebe/Anna:

I did that, and I rode

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

got to here it's now You did sense plus 500Ks on the challenge had someone

jenna:

heck I can see how it's built now. It all

Phoebe/Anna:

we did a little 24 hour challenge in that where we had someone running around the for 24 hours, as well, and goals within hours. And, from there it got bigger and then last year, it was, the 10th

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

kept me company for a

Phoebe/Anna:

up

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

at moment

Phoebe/Anna:

both of kept me company for a lot of, whether

jenna:

did. I'm getting reminders on my Strava at the moment

Phoebe/Anna:

I.

jenna:

and like grateful runs with Jenna. Crazy.

Phoebe/Anna:

I was, I was like, wow. So big. One of

jenna:

one of the I love about what you did last year As our little running community, I feel as if brought together After each run you would say, okay, what are you grateful for today? And what are you grateful for after that run? And it really made you a step back, and appreciate what we were doing and what we

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

But feel like

jenna:

And obviously

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

absolutely

jenna:

way but I feel like

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

it it at the like Yeah. Yeah

Phoebe/Anna:

remember those runs and I feel like we started doing them at start of the month, like

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

would our coffee. into the

Phoebe/Anna:

there the And it be like, three cases into the run. I'd be like, someone tell me what they're grateful for because I need distraction.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

of that um, you it

jenna:

talk us through, what was the aftermath of Um, Matt, you hit it, you, you exceeded

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah, a couple of days before the month end, I So I was like, okay,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

So I

Phoebe/Anna:

up 410 or

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

like

Phoebe/Anna:

just some sprinkles on the top. But the aftermath, yep. Initially I was like, I'm going to have a couple of weeks off running, great idea, my body felt really good other than the fact I had probably tone hours Kept running and then towards the end of December was got a bit a quad niggle, I'm not sure what's going on just try to roll it out,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I

Phoebe/Anna:

to like the start of in tried

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

roll my hamstring and

Phoebe/Anna:

Shot through the front so then I got a scan and had reaction in femur.

jenna:

So then fast forward to planning for year. Um, how, how have you balanced trying to set a goal and challenge, but also balancing that with looking after that's

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Yeah,

Phoebe/Anna:

and I think like it's been a tough me from someone who like grown to love running so much again, and you both have

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

weeks

Phoebe/Anna:

me at some low points this year and, um,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I I

Phoebe/Anna:

pulled a muscle a few weeks ago and, it's just up and down. And then for me thinking of a challenge, I'll essentially just like months out, be

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

of challenges.

Phoebe/Anna:

if something sticks in my brain and I can't.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

few

Phoebe/Anna:

of it, then that's when I'm like, okay, I've got to

jenna:

That's the challenge.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

ride 24 hours on like, a

Phoebe/Anna:

yeah, I think

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

a months epiphany for statuary And then

jenna:

that like fun.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

time You know what? I just had this want to sit on a

jenna:

Watt bike 24

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I'm just not going away so I'm going to

jenna:

And to me all the time.

Phoebe/Anna:

So, the plan.

jenna:

It's, so you took us through the to 24 hours.

Phoebe/Anna:

to do it

jenna:

a stationary bike, and where will you do

Phoebe/Anna:

I will be doing it up there athletics on the 15th

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I didn't you'll you'll when

Phoebe/Anna:

hours. So

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

to

jenna:

didn't know that. So you'll you'll pause you go

Phoebe/Anna:

you're pausing

jenna:

I pause

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Joking

jenna:

put a

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

when you wanted to do a two

Phoebe/Anna:

do number two.

jenna:

should have done a content

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

hours so that's this

Phoebe/Anna:

a vlog.

jenna:

Anyway, back to it. what what

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

said

jenna:

said that, like,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

was like, I was

Phoebe/Anna:

like, wait, so yes, this

jenna:

wait, so yes. So,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Yeah

jenna:

thought about, what are you going to think of when starts get hard? what

Phoebe/Anna:

I will have some company throughout, which is epic.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

just falling on the

Phoebe/Anna:

flying down from the Gold Coast, to feed me and look after me and

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I'm not

jenna:

I'm not

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

asleep like

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, so Kayo, that's really make sure don't know, I'm really bad

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

with

Phoebe/Anna:

don't listen music that much. I'm a bit of a weird unit when it comes to that.

jenna:

When things get hard, do you think of your dad

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

think that

jenna:

people do you think that will come into

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

on

jenna:

Friday? Or are you just sort of like,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

of like

jenna:

and just solely just the 24

Phoebe/Anna:

call it,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

and then that not gonna

Phoebe/Anna:

that clean his arms

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

lose

Phoebe/Anna:

are so solid, just like

jenna:

it's a

Phoebe/Anna:

My friends that have lost people, and at same time it's I want to raise awareness and get really uncomfortable so the men in my life no longer to. And whether raising a few bucks whether it's, knowing that someone might feel comfortable talking about their feelings, because of doing this challenge and trying to normalise that it's okay to speak about it, that's everything that pushes me through and I think I can just.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

us a you

Phoebe/Anna:

going to this

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

On

jenna:

note can you tell us a bit about the ambassador work that you do with Movember

Phoebe/Anna:

So, um, pretty cool. I only moved

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

a a few ago

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah.

jenna:

Yeah, wow.

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah. year and a few months. And I'd always, um, obviously been doing Movember on the Gold Coast the last few years.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

didn't

Phoebe/Anna:

up Jake from Movember, someone who I always emailed and like didn't, never met properly,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

got up with him And,

Phoebe/Anna:

just you know, when you're like trying to play it cool.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

community of ambassadors

jenna:

I guess.

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, it's really cool, like honestly a really good ambassadors Um, we get to go out to organisations and speak about and share our journey and why we mow and kind of like a real

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

so what

Phoebe/Anna:

more awareness, which is so cool.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I mean, it's amazing

jenna:

you do, but I think hearing this and reflecting on what you've experienced and then what you're doing I just think it's amazing and so inspiring and you're so brave Yeah,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Yes along to my most

jenna:

Speaking of, how can people get involved and support?

Phoebe/Anna:

They head along to my MO space,

jenna:

it in the show notes. Yes.

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah, yeah. Or it's Jenna Fulton. Um, but

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

most

Phoebe/Anna:

one way or just keeping an eye on my journey throughout. I'll be someone to update the hours on my most face. Yeah. I'll be updating on my social media obviously, so I think that's a big way for me that people can support.

jenna:

Can people come and join you and or run with

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Yeah So a big part

Phoebe/Anna:

really to get community involved. So it wasn't staring at whilst I ride a bike. But during opening hours of There Athletics, is in the city in Melbourne,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

have

Phoebe/Anna:

Have another and set up people for have a yarn.

jenna:

Yeah. Tell us about why you run now and what does running give to you?

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

Um, even attending

Phoebe/Anna:

gave me a

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

of

Phoebe/Anna:

group run when she wasn't even attending.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

as well Really You her I've done

jenna:

a couple done that with our friend Claudia Really? You sent her out there? Yeah, I met her work said, Yeah, as well friends being like, This girl's coming.

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

nice.

jenna:

Look

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

after her.

Phoebe/Anna:

was a very, aggressive. I was And

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

it is a that I

jenna:

a

Phoebe/Anna:

to go.

jenna:

don't let them down.

Phoebe/Anna:

Um, but yeah, it really is connection that I love. And for me, it's like my own mental health. Don't know what it does, but going run in the morning just and having coffee with the girls, it just really starts day well. But yeah, when I able

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

if there that's that's um

Phoebe/Anna:

Yeah.

jenna:

So lastly, if there one thing, a listener can take away from this chat, what would you want it to be?

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

I

Phoebe/Anna:

for me, it's always been no one's going to think less you for seeking help I

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

And

Phoebe/Anna:

even I've started doing this, I've had male And when I say seeking help, it doesn't to be, you have to go to a call lifeline straight away or anything like that. just letting someone know that you're not okay, when that can do wonders. And it just knows it's mean someone's there And,

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

And if not

Phoebe/Anna:

yeah, there's such a thing about, speak up, like, people for you

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

they do,

Phoebe/Anna:

you're not

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

with

Phoebe/Anna:

like oh if I

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

you go

jenna:

Jenna, thank you so much for sharing with us and with our listeners. I mean, Anna said it before, but the way you go about all of this is genuinely so Like I think so many people have things that are important them in but you have made point to not you actually are taking and doing so know so many people think So a

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

very proud

jenna:

you. action listeners get

dji_mimo_20241108_181034_20241108174016_1731050458115_video:

behind you

jenna:

you're amazing for we can't wait Friday. Have Um

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Phoebe:

Okay. Quick fire before we get into our weekly weapon. Um, we, we decided last week to continue our challenges. So Anna's challenge was

Anna:

every single day. Some form of Which I have done every day, apart from today.

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

today

Phoebe:

ah Maybe still to come

Anna:

Maybe still to come, although we are going straight to a birthday dinner. No, you know what? I will actually do it today, tonight, whenever I get home just for 10 minutes, and I'll send you a photo because the photos have been lacking

Phoebe:

The photos have been liking and it's been noted and my challenge was

Anna:

six hours and 45 minutes minimum.

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

Minimum. Okay,

Phoebe:

it's misrepresent so

Anna:

misrepresented. It's misrepresenting

Phoebe:

it's misrepresenting me. So it says, it says 6 hours and 20 minutes. However, what I realized is that started on Monday, not on the weekend, which I slept really hard on the weekend.

Anna:

I

Phoebe:

I

Anna:

energy

Phoebe:

put a lot of effort into my sleep over the weekend. And so, so what happened last week when we recorded it was 6 hours and 30 minutes, but then I got it up to 6 hours 45 minutes by the end of the week. So this week, I'm only on 6 hours 20,

Anna:

But we recorded on Thursday. And it's now Friday.

Phoebe:

Yeah, but So

Anna:

the average between 6. still isn't 6.

Phoebe:

this weekend, I'm gonna get it up, is what I'm saying

Anna:

But if it's week to week,

Phoebe:

Like starting Monday

Anna:

No,

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

no.

Phoebe:

no No, no, no, no, no, no, no Starting

Anna:

you why. Because if you think, think this time last

Phoebe:

I'll tell you why. it might be okay because if we think, think this time last week, I was on a similar score to now or six 20 something

Anna:

6.

Phoebe:

and then I got it up to 6 45. So if I'm similar now, see what you mean. I reckon I'm pretty close. Are

Anna:

this, I

Phoebe:

I mean, I let's

Anna:

satisfied with

Phoebe:

both trust each other. Yeah, it'll be a regular accountability. Okay, I love it. Now, let's talk about, I'm so excited to talk about our cheeky team member of the week. Anna, would you like

Anna:

Cheeky team member of the week. Cheeky weekly, right?

Phoebe:

cheeky weekly

Anna:

weapon. Our cheeky, our cheeky weekly weapon. And would you

Phoebe:

Anna, would you like to introduce them? I

Anna:

would. So, a little bit of background for context about our weekly weapon. We were both suggested to listen to a podcast, a conversations podcast, which we'll actually put in the show notes

Phoebe:

in the show notes as well.

Anna:

Yeah. Our Spanish correspondent, Eleanor, recommended this podcast to us. So it is about Dr. Tracy Westerman, who is an indigenous woman who grew up in the Pilbara. she actually grew up in a station town called Useless Loop. I looked this up and it's legitimate, the town is called Useless Loop. Anyway, eventually she, uh, landed in the mining town of Tom, of Tom Price, uh, she, uh, is the only person in the town to get through to year 12 and graduate, she got through to year 12 by correspondence. I think was the only person,

Phoebe:

first one to go to uni. Yeah. She studied, it's, it's such an amazing story, like very worth listening, but the, the TLDR, she goes on to study psychology, and What's the TLDR? Uh, uh. It means,

Anna:

not too busy.

Phoebe:

true.

Anna:

What does the TLDR

Phoebe:

means too long, too long, didn't read. So it's what you add to something when it's, it's too long. And yeah. So the summary

Anna:

Oh, right.

Phoebe:

just here's the, the, the spark notes

Anna:

Yeah.

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

version. Nice.

Anna:

Phoebe's version.

Phoebe:

yeah, she goes on to study psychology and clinical psychology and she. Obviously is taught like traditional psychology, but what she does, which no one else has been able to do before is she basically is able to like go into indigenous communities and translate it into like a kind of version of psychology that takes into account their culture and their

Anna:

and inspiring

Phoebe:

practices. Hearing her talk through it is so interesting and inspiring and you're just struck by how important the work that she's doing is. Yeah, I'm

Anna:

she was sort of thrown into it even from when she was 22. That was the first time

Phoebe:

does social work, it's amazing. And I guess to get back to running the, we might even try and pop like the final 30 seconds or the 30 seconds of the recording into the podcast because she basically at the end talks about how she has used running. as a self soothing mechanism, because she takes on the most insane emotional burden from the work she does, which is truly incredible. She basically talks about how she has used running and how running saved her life. she, says. Yeah.

Anna:

how running saved my life.

Phoebe:

literally got goosebumps listening to her talk

Anna:

that. Oh, cause I feel like it's one of those things that we speak about all the time, and speak to sort of how saying, like, running adds so much to your life. But I just feel like she, it was so well articulated. And it was, it's obviously just been such a constant. In her life over all of the years. Like she would have, she's been through trauma herself. She's dealing with a lot of other trauma. her next mission is to build an army of indigenous psychologists to continue the work she's already started. And she has scholarships

Phoebe:

I think she's 55 people on the

Anna:

Which is crazy. so I reckon let's get her on the pod, but also let's add a snippet here. And

Phoebe:

And cue snippet.

Anna:

Um, all right. That is it for today's episode. Thank you, Phoebe.

Phoebe:

Thank you, Anna. And thank you, listeners.

Anna:

And most importantly, and thank you, Jenna.

Phoebe:

And thank you, Tracy.

Anna:

And thank you. Honestly. Thank you, Tracy. And thank you. My tear ducts on Tuesday.

Phoebe:

Oh yeah, thank you for expressing your emotions.

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

So beautifully.

Anna:

Ha ha ha ha.

Phoebe:

Proud of you.

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

you.

Phoebe:

What is happening?

Anna:

No. All right, let's wrap this up. Um, as you as always, please like, subscribe, follow at wherever you get your podcasts. Please follow us on Instagram

Phoebe:

Please!

Anna:

TikTok, please. Otherwise, we can't wait to be in your ears next week.

Phoebe:

Woo!

dji_mimo_20241108_173454_20241108170532_1731064394457_video:

Woo.

Anna:

Bye.

Phoebe:

Watch out for Anna at the next HiROCKS competition.

Anna:

next Hyrox

Phoebe:

We'll let everyone know. This hybrid athlete is going to be out there leaving it all out there on the HiROCKS website. Whatever

Anna:

whatever you call it.

Phoebe:

say.