Satisfy Circle Pit and a lot of strange noises

Happy June Cheeky Crew!!!

 In this week’s ep, we’ll unpack the recent Adidas X Satisfy marketing campaign gone wrong – but we’ll catch you up to speed on the punk-rock-desert-run-circle-pit (Yes, those words all mean something!!!!).

 We recap the second Diamond Leagues of the year, which saw an incredible win for Abby Caldwell! Then, we weigh in on your running dilemmas – from hiding bad runs on your Strava to gatekeeping running from your partner!

 We round out the ep with a VERY exciting Rehab Diaries update from Anna – who’s absolutely kicking goals!!!

 LINKS:

-   Send us an email! We’d love to hear any questions, thoughts, or ‘Am I the Asshole’ scenarios – cheekyrunclub@gmail.com

-   Check out Satisfy videos here

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 Music produced by Hugh Raper & logo design by Michael Cotellessa. Podcast edited by Kiara Martin.

Transcript

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Cheeky Run Club recognizes that every day we live, work, and run on Aboriginal land

Phoebe Audio 0:06

Welcome to Cheeky Welcome to Cheeky Run Club, the social running podcast and community for your everyday amateur runner. Hello, Anna,

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Hello, baby

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and hello, listeners

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Today, have you heard about the brand Satisfye? Because they recently caused a mass triggering of the running community, and we're going to tell you all about it. We'll also debrief the most recent Diamond League 1,500-meter women's race, and review some running Am I The Assholes? And then finish off with a little bit about my rehab diaries. First of all, let's kick it off as we always do with our notable run or running-related activities of the week. Phoebe, give me your best.

Phoebe Audio 0:50

best my best is, have you ever heard the saying, that the difference between, like, good weather and bad weather is just an attitude?

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I haven't. Did you come up with

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It's something like that. I may as well have because I live and breathe it. Um,

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That, sorry, that reminds me of, um, I was with your brother the other week, and we- they'd just done a run, and we were at the beach. and it was, like, pretty cold, and the guys were wondering if they should go for a swim or not, like, after their, their swim. And one of our girlfriends and I, who, like, we had both recently had babies and

Phoebe Audio 1:29

嗯。

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weren't, hadn't worked up a sweat, so weren't gonna go for a swim. We were like, "No, go. You'll feel so much better," blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then Tom, your brother, was like, "Always swim," like, as Phoebe says.

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And

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did they swim?

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They swam, and they went in. Okay, this is... Sorry, this is, like, so, so off track. But they swum, and they also went under three times, and I then I said to them, I was with you, and then our London correspondent, Leesh, and then our Spanish correspondent, Noz. And I don't know which one of you it was, but s- o- like, somewhere along the line, one of you said to me, like, "Whenever you go in the water, you have to go under three times or it doesn't count." This probably would've been, like, two, three years ago. And I kid you not, I can't go in the water and not go under three times, because

Phoebe Audio 2:29

Want to hear it

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little no- voice in my head saying, "It doesn't count."

Phoebe Audio 2:33

But it's actually true though. It's actually true. Like, if you duck your head under once and just rush out, I feel like you've rushed

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doesn't count.

Phoebe Audio 2:40

It doesn't count. But if you do it three times, by the third you've, like, really immersed yourself, and I feel like it, it hits different.

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It, no, I actually, I do agree. However, it is frustrating, particularly when it's cold and you just wanna go for a dip, and then all of a sudden you're like, "Oh, fucking hell, I

Phoebe Audio 3:00

But you have

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three times."

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know.

Phoebe Audio 3:02

It's really funny, I swam this week on, on my Wednesday morning run when I usually, run around, like, Barangaroo, and then I've said on the pod before that I'll always, jump in the water afterwards 'cause there's a little, like, swimming spot there. Which is, like, near the city in Sydney. And obviously I did it again this week, but this week it has been raining all week, which I'm gonna talk about briefly for my best run. and so the water's like

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Yeah.

Phoebe Audio 3:28

the water's, like, not great. And apparently, like, as I was going in, I was, like, walking in and Andy, one of our friends, goes, "I would put your head under." And I just, like, gone under. But, but someone afterwards, um...

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to do it twice more

Phoebe Audio 3:44

Yeah. Well, yeah, three times, obviously. Someone afterwards was like, "Oh, that's such good discipline," or something, like, going for a swim. And I was like, "I genuinely don't see it like... I genuinely love it and look forward to it so much." Like, it's, like, the highlight of my week. okay, so coming back to my, weather isn't attitude.

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just wanted to burden everyone else. So now anyone that's listening,

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you're all cursed.

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You

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must always put your head under three times. It has been pouring with rain all week, I've just been loving my rainy runs. Like, It's just, I've just been like, okay, I'm just embracing the fact that this week I'm gonna get soaked when I run. Don't bother bringing your phone. Put a hat on because that makes it, like, a little bit more pleasant, just you not getting, like, it full to the face, and then just soak up. Like, the park is quiet. It's flooded. There are, like, animals everywhere. Like, the animals all come out in the rain. Everyone who is out grins at each other as they run past each other 'cause they're like,

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You're like in the trenches together.

Phoebe Audio 4:43

And it's like, it's not, gonna hurt you, you know? The rain is not gonna hurt you. so

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you living by the philosophy of, now I've forgotten what it's called, what it, how, how the saying goes.

Phoebe Audio 4:54

it?

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It's not bad weather, it's just soft people or something

Phoebe Audio 4:57

Yeah, yeah. But my version of that with like, it's just a, it's more, bad weather's just an attitude,

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Yeah, yeah, a bit more positive

Phoebe Audio 5:04

yeah, but yeah, a bit less judgemental. I mean, still a little bit judgemental.

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Ja. Godt.

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I, it honestly has been really nice. And like, I feel like when you just embrace it and you're like, "I'm gonna get absolutely soaked, and that's all good," then there's something really fun about it. anyway, tell me about your best running related activity or run.

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mine was last night. I went to a spin class at Cycle Collective, which I don't normally go in the afternoons, like I've normally been trying to exercise in the morning, but I just really struggled to get up yesterday morning, and then had a very, it felt like a long day. Um, and I was kind of on the fence about whether to

Phoebe Audio 5:49

broken.

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Yeah, I sent Phoebe a voice note during the day. I, I, um, I mean, we'll, we'll might get to it in my worst running related But, yeah, I was slightly broken. Anyway, and so you know, when you're like not feeling great, so you're like, "Oh, do I even go?" Or whatever. I went and I literally felt a million times better afterwards. I was sitting next to this lady who, she's in her 50s, and she is an absolute weapon. She is so, like, she just pushes out watts on the bike. It is absolutely insane. Anyway, and she's super, super nice, so I was like having a little bit of a chat with her, and then I just left and I was like, "I feel absolutely amazing. I could like take on the world." Anyway, so that was my best running related activity. And also just a note to say, if you're feeling a bit shit, like crappy, and you don't feel like doing something, you're probably gonna feel better after you do it

Phoebe Audio 6:50

You, you're like, 'cause I feel like you have a very, expressive voice, and like when you were feeling sad earlier in the day or just like tired, like you talk and you sound so sad, and your like voice is really sad. And like you just sound a bit like defeated. And then you sent a voice note after the, after doing the Psycho Collective class, and you were like on top of the world. You were like talking way miles an hour. Yeah. I was like, "Oh, yep, she's done some exercise."

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she's back.

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Yeah.

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what is your worst run or running-related activity?

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Well,

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Getting gastro from your swim post-run on Wednesday.

Phoebe Audio 7:30

no, no, no. No gastro. However, Well, yeah, 'cause I was, well, even listening to myself before, being like, "The rain's not gonna kill you." Alas, though, I, I have woken up quite today.

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It's not gonna kill you. However, you will feel unwell.

Phoebe Audio 7:48

Um, no, yeah, I just, I-- you know, when you feel, like, a sore throat coming on. Like yesterday afternoon I felt, I felt it coming, and I

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ー ん。

Phoebe Audio 7:57

"God, no." Like, "Come on, have a good dinner. Have an early night's sleep." Like, I feel like I did everything. And then throughout the night I was having these-- I was actually having these dreams that I was, like, suffocating 'cause my throat was, like, closing over 'cause it was so... You know when you wake up and you, like, actually can't breathe properly 'cause your throat's so dry? And, like, I'd obviously been sleeping with my mouth open 'cause I was a bit stuffy, and, like, Oh my God. My throat is so sore," and I feel quite sick. However, the good thing is I feel really smug as well because for the first time in years I got my flu shot. And so I'm like, "I'm safe. I can't get that sick." And, you know, a

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'Cause the flu's the only thing that can make you

Phoebe Audio 8:45

Well, I do feel--

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Famously.

Phoebe Audio 8:46

I, yeah, I feel like it's the flu that is, what you really want to avoid. Like a head cold, you know? I'm sure I can, like, have a

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Head coach Schmidt called

Phoebe Audio 8:57

Yeah. I've dealt with, I've dealt with a few in my time.

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It's not a head cold, it's just a bad attitude.

Phoebe Audio 9:04

Yeah, it is. But that said, it means I didn't... yeah, to your point, I didn't go for a run or do anything this morning. I woke up and, you know, had a cup of tea and made some eggs on toast. So I do feel like, I don't know, you do, I do feel like that makes you feel a little bit lethargic. However, it-- I'm sure it would've been silly. We don't run when we're sick,

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We don't remember my sick. And also kinda nice that it's raining and you're inside doing that. I feel like it would feel quite cozy.

Phoebe Audio 9:30

Yeah, ver- oh, it's very cozy. Very cozy. what about your worst?

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Mine is, so we hit 11 weeks this week

Phoebe Audio 9:42

Mm,

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the old Flossinator, huge if true, which I think it is. and the last few weeks she has decided that she is, uh, I will say, 'cause I don't wanna be too mean for her- mean to her on the pod, particularly because she can't tell her own side of the story.

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can't defend herself

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but she's not really enjoying the pram, which, you know, fair enough, I probably wouldn't either. but then she also doesn't really like being put down during the day. Overnight she's completely fine. but it does mean that... And I'm trying to limit my carrier u- the use of the carrier 'cause I think I was saying, like, I feel like it's kinda hurting my back and, like, I'm getting a few, like, nervy pains. So it does mean that I'm spending a lot of time in my living room. And when I say a lot

Phoebe Audio 10:35

Up close and personal with us.

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I mean all day. and at the start it was okay and I was like, "Oh, like, this is fine." Well I don't know, like, it was, like, a bit annoying, but I was like, "This is fine." But I do think that it is having an effect on my emotional wellbeing, um, just, like, being indoors for so long and just kind of feeling like I can't really do anything. so that is my worst running-related activity this week, is just the... something about this living room. I feel like my body is being, like, ingrained in the couch. And, like, Dave leaves for work and I'm in this one position on the couch, Dave comes home from work and I'm still

Phoebe Audio 11:22

Oh my God, it'd be so hard n- like, the... Yeah. Yeah. I also feel like you're a very, like, active person. You're very, like, up and

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Yeah. Yeah. And like I even, even just like taking, like I l- like I get so much joy of like taking Ted for a walk, but I'm like struggling to do that, and then I also sort of feel guilty for not doing that, 'cause then I look at him and I'm like, "I'm sorry, buddy."

Phoebe Audio 11:47

Yeah, I also feel like we were saying it's also, because it's been a bit relentless for, like, the last however many weeks,

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yeah

Phoebe Audio 11:53

just accumulates. And it was sort of fine for the first couple weeks, and now it's almost just, like, taking its toll a little

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Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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Actually, mothers, if you're listening, if anyone has a note of encouragement to send to Anna,

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me.

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if anyone remembers what it's like to be 11 weeks deep, I reckon you could do with a few notes of encouragement. What do you reckon?

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Yeah, that would, that would be great.

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probably be great. A

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a little pep talk.

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Or if you have any tips or tricks for how to get your baby to like a pram,

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or tricks. Yeah

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also would be amazing. Um, anyway, but yeah, uh, aside from that, again, I don't wanna... I don't- I'm not saying this, I love my daughter.

Phoebe Audio 12:35

Oh yeah. No, that's fine. I'm not worried. No one's like, "Oh, goodness, that poor little girl, abandoned."

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services.

Phoebe Audio 12:45

Yeah.

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No, she's having a great time.

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Sh- oh, God, yeah. If anything, you could love her a little less. Put her in the pram a bit, force her to...

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to run.

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Um, okay. So let's debrief the Diamond League that happened last weekend. Famously... So this was the second Diamond League of the year, and famously we, uh, got our tips completely wrong for the first race. So this is the 1500 that we're talking about, for the women, and there were the four Australian... Oh, sorry, five Australians, which is, that's actually just insane in the first place that there are, like, five Australians that are good enough to be on the Diamond League start line in the same race.

Phoebe Audio 13:31

country had five, like, has five people running. Like,

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Yeah, genuinely wild. Mm. Um, but yeah, let's chat through it. So who did you ti- I think you actually

Phoebe Audio 13:42

I tipped Abby, yeah. Yep, I tipped Abby. I think you tipped, uh, Claudia then Abby.

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so you know,

Phoebe Audio 13:51

kind of right, kind of wrong. but w- do shall we talk through... So yeah, the people in the race, quickfire, we had, Abby Caldwell, Claudia Hollingsworth, Jess Hull, Sarah Billings, and Linden Hall. So again, just like Aussie middle distance running is just, women's, is so freaking good right now. Like, that is amazing talent. Anyway, it was a really interesting race. So again, there was a pacemaker who took out the pace very hot. Some people might remember that last week we spoke about how Jess Hull was the only Aussie who went with the pacer. The other four kind of sat with the main pack. This time it was different. This time Jess sat back with the pack, but Sarah Billings went with the pacer. which was actually really, like, it was kinda cool to watch.

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Yeah, same. I was like, g- shoot your shot

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It was

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gutsy. I feel like this was kind of a... this was the last, chance to basically, Australian Athletics nomination period for the Comm Games closes, this coming weekend. So that, was essentially the last chance for the 1500 meters to basically, like, try and qualify, and I feel like Sarah's, like, just... After Abby's amazing performance the week before, Sarah's, like, just on the outside of the three. It's

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Yeah, I feel like

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Jess, Claudia. Yeah, and so she was obviously like, "Okay, I need to do everything I can." And so she just went with it. Yeah, and it was, it was really ex- It didn't, like, quite, didn't, didn't pay off, but, it was still a really good run, and it was, you, you kind of... We were talking last week about how, like, it's cool to watch people just giving it their all, and, like,

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go,

Phoebe Audio 15:27

something different and putting themselves out there

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I also think, like, she would know that she's not the fastest, like she's not the fastest in a sprint

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う

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girls. So the way she, like she like has tried something else to beat them by like going harder at the start. and like who kn- like one day that like that will probably pay off. But it was really humid, so Abby in the, in her interview afterwards did comment on how the conditions were like pretty hard 'cause it was like really, really humid racing. and so they finished a little bit slower than the week before, but Abby actually won the Diamond League, so not just like, um, finished first out of the Australians. Actually, the last 300 meters were absolutely insane. She kind of made it look like everyone else had like stopped running, or like she just looked so fresh. Yeah.

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looked so fresh

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I think it was you that said, you could tell that she was feeling good 'cause with a lap to go she kinda glanced at the big screen, I guess to kind of suss who was

Phoebe Audio 16:31

Sh- she was like in c- I, I, I don't know, I don't think it was Mae that said that, but I have heard that. Like, yeah, it's really, you know someone's kind of like She looks really in control. She was, like, checking it out. Um, but yeah, with a lot to go there was, um, Becca Hallam, who had won the previous Diamond League and is a incredibly talented 1500 meter runner, was in the lead by, like, literally, like, would've been 18 meters or so ahead of the main pack. Again, just so far ahead that even the commentator's like, "Okay, well, she's got this, but like, you know, fight for second now," kind of thing. 'Cause Sarah Billings at this point had started to come back to the pack and was, like, looking a bit more tired. And Abby and Jess both were, like, going for it, and Abby just It, yeah, you're so right. From, like, 300 to go, it's like she just found another level that no one else had. Completely reeled in Becca Hallam, no worries. I mean, this was probably, she overtook Becca Hallam on the home straight, I think, like, like, in the la- But just flew, flew past her, breezed past her. And winning that Diamond League, like, has Jess won a Diamond League 1500 meter? I actually don't know

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you're exactly right. So she has won the 2K event at the Monaco Diamond League. and she's finished on the podium multiple times in the 1500, but she's not yet won a 1500 meter Diamond League race.

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Like

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So

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that's,

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is huge.

Phoebe Audio 17:53

Like I don't think we can articulate how rare it is for an Australian to win this. I mean, I guess, I, I guess it's early in the season, la, la, la. Like maybe some You know, I'm sure a lot of people are still building up to their peak form, but like that could be true of Abby as well.

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Yeah, and I always like come back to the thing, like you can only race who's on the start line. So yeah, it might be early in the season, whatever, but you still have to beat everyone that's there. Do you know what I mean? Um, and it's not as though it wasn't like a stacked field.

Phoebe Audio 18:25

what did you think about our gal Claudia?

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yeah, so our girl, our cheeky girl, Claudia, she just looked quite flat the whole way, and n- just never really looked in it at all. Um, and she's sort of famous for her kick at the end, but even you could kinda see it on her face. Like, it... When they started to ramp it up a little bit, she just kind of had nothing. So a little bit sad. I do feel for her a little bit 'cause I feel like that's... yes, it's only two races, but two races, like, back to back when you kind of had the, like, platform to maybe shine a little. and yeah, I just, she, she just didn't look like she had it kind of thing

Phoebe Audio 19:09

know. Well, she did, I think she did 4:06 in the end, which is like, that's like seven or eight seconds slower than the previous week. And I don't know if you saw, like at some point she like came into view on the screen, and she looked like... She is someone who all her expressions show on her face when she runs, and she looked so sad as she was running. Like, you could tell she was like

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She looked a bit cooked.

Phoebe Audio 19:35

the run. Yeah, like she was like, "Oh, no, no," like, "I'm so far behind," or, or, "I can't do this," or whatever. However,

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ー ん。

Phoebe Audio 19:42

like, kind of excited for her because she's so young and like this is gonna be a massive period of growth for her. She's never actually had, as far as I know, like a period of like underperformance or where she like hasn't literally smashed it out and exceeded everyone's expectations. And I feel like this is a really important part of being an athlete, is like learning that kind of resilience and like how to learn and come back from these things. And like she's gonna have the most incredible career ahead of her, like she's so early on. And I hope that she'll be able to like, I don't know, like take something from this and be like, "Okay, cool. I have to like..." Was this... I don't know. I mean, we don't know. She also could just be sick or something. But like what's gone on in the last couple weeks or like what can she take from this to basically like drive her to that next level or, Like, it doesn't really matter. She's already selected for Comm Games, and

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And yeah, I agree. I think she'll be better for it

Phoebe Audio 20:35

I think she'll be better for it.

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Yeah. Yeah.

Phoebe Audio 20:37

still, we still love you, Claudia. Um, then next, for anyone else who is enjoying following along, Abby is racing again in Rome on June 4th. There's no Australians at the moment signed up for that race, for that 1500. However, it is a really exciting race. It is, like, the big dogs of the 1500 meter world. Laura Muir, from Great Britain. uh, Georgia Hunter-Bell, who was world champion in 1500 meter earlier this year, the one who Claudia actually took down at, Murray Plant, was it? In

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Plant Mate in Melbourne

Phoebe Audio 21:10

Yeah. And then Nikki Hiltz, who's probably the US's best 1500 meter

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Yeah. Yeah. They, yeah, I feel like the US, is similar to Australia in that I feel like they are just stacked with so many, people who are kind of like around the same, but Nikki Hiltz is definitely up there

Phoebe Audio 21:30

Nikki, yeah, is amazing. So these are like, yeah, some really big dogs in that race, so that's gonna be a very exciting one

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All right. So All right. So some people might be all over this, and some people may have absolutely no idea what we are about to talk about. But have you heard of the Satisfyer Circle Pit, Phoebe?

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Hmm.

Phoebe Audio 21:54

Not before the last 10 days or so, and since then I have heard a lot about it. if you are wondering, as I would've been 10 days ago, what the heck do the words Satisfy Circle Pit mean, I have a quote from a Substack on the topic by one Grace Cook, that has gone quite viral and I think sets the scene well. So she starts the Substack by writing, Hello everyone. Here's a headline I never thought I'd write. Runners turned into high school mean girls this week, unleashing a burn book of public criticism against Satisfy, the small but very influential French running brand." So first of all, Anna, what is, for the uninitiated what is Satisfy?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 22:36

So Satisfye is a, mm, small, or I don't know, would you even say small? I mean,

Phoebe Audio 22:42

Compared

ZOOM0052_Tr3 22:42

It's just not one of the, like, Nike, Adidas, Asics brands. but they're a French trail running brand. So they've been around for around 10 years. they have a little bit of a niche, like, cult following, and I'd say they're quite exclusive. Like, they're so... The products are ridiculously expensive. Like, you're pur- you're paying... It's kind of like designer for runners. You're purely paying for the brand. and they have this thing called Mothtech, I don't actually think that they call it

Phoebe Audio 23:17

for it. Yeah, they call it Motek. Yeah, they,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 23:19

do they actually call it Mothtech? I thought... Oh my God. I don't know about that. Um, essentially they have these T-shirts that look like they've been in your cupboard and moths have gotten to them. So they just have

Phoebe Audio 23:32

And they cost, they'll cost like, they can cost upwards of $500 for a T-shirt with moth, moth holes in

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L- literally for a cotton T-shirt.

Phoebe Audio 23:40

People do say, I've, I've never owned anything by Satisfy, but, and they're probably not quite my style, but people do say the quality is really good. I don't know how good it would have to be to justify five, $600 for a singlet or a T-shirt, I know that people who wear it or who own something by Satisfy do say it's not, it's not like it's like rubbish quality, but it's

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No.

Phoebe Audio 24:03

quality.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:04

want to be rubbish

Phoebe Audio 24:04

it is...

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:05

But like in the same vein, I would say that Lululemon is really good quality,

Phoebe Audio 24:09

Oh, yeah. No, no, no,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:10

tops are like 100... Yeah. I'd,

Phoebe Audio 24:12

I'm all just me, 'cause that moth tech, it literally looks like moth-eaten cotton I assumed the quality was like you would never wanna run in it kind of thing but, um, I've heard, I've heard people say it's not too bad

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:23

Would you say they kind of are a bit like indie punk in the running world?

Phoebe Audio 24:29

Yeah. Well, it's funny, even when you're like, "Oh, they're not actually that small," I actually think they probably are still relatively small, but their brand is huge. They do an amazing job with their, like, they have a very distinct brand, which is, is certainly, what they want it to be, like the punk kind of brand of running is extremely,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:50

But which is kind of ironic in the sense 'cause punks probably aren't gonna pay designer prices.

Phoebe Audio 24:58

Well, as

ZOOM0052_Tr3 24:59

like it's the people that want to look like that,

Phoebe Audio 25:01

As we shall discuss, because I think that is, like, a core part of the controversy that has unfurled here.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 25:07

You know what it's

Phoebe Audio 25:08

into... Yeah

ZOOM0052_Tr3 25:09

It's giving, um, what was that Fitzroy Garage party?

Phoebe Audio 25:13

Oh yeah, in COVID. yeah.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 25:15

Yeah. Which was essentially Fitzroy, like for any of those that aren't in Melbourne, it's like this northern suburb that's kind of edgy and like grunge and these young men were kind of having this garage party and kind of trying to make it look grungy. But then it came out that it was like the parents had bought the son the house. they all are dressed kind of to look like they're a bit rough around the edges, but they're like all private school boys and I feel like that is like Satisfy

video 25:48

it

ZOOM0052_Tr3 25:48

in a

Phoebe Audio 25:49

up feeling a little bit, inauthentic. But before we get into what happened, 'cause it's called the Satisfye Circle Pit. Did you know what a circle pit was?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 25:57

Absolutely not.

Phoebe Audio 25:58

I didn't know either. No, no. I had to Google it. apparently it's actually m- like, a more friendly version of a mosh pit in a concert, and it's where... I've actually never seen this happen. It's where they, everyone starts running in a circle together, and it's like you're all really, like, tightly... Like, there's heaps of you, like, almost tripping over each other, and you're, like, running in a circle again and again, kind of while the band is playing. So essentially, Satisfye partnered with Adidas, and to sort of unveil their first big collaboration, they created this event called the Circle Pit, and there was a lot of, like, hype around in the lead up. They were, like, leaking things, and there were billboards. It was, like, really, um, yeah, really, really hyped up. They basically had about 60 influencers who they flew in and, and, you know, media partners and so on, and then they took them out to this secret location, which was a BMX pump track in the desert in Arizona. Do, do, do you know what a pump track is, or did you

ZOOM0052_Tr3 26:58

Again,

Phoebe Audio 26:59

to this? Yeah, not really. I, I actually d- like, it's not really like a BMX track. It's like a r- it's almost like a skate rink BMX track where there's, like, constantly different, like,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 27:11

Yeah, like bump, yeah,

Phoebe Audio 27:12

bumps and waving things. Yeah, and apparently when you're riding a BMX bike or a bike on it or a skateboard, you don't need to push or pedal. You can just, like, basically, like, get momen-

ZOOM0052_Tr3 27:24

Gain the momentum from...

Phoebe Audio 27:25

and just, yeah, just continually kind of, like, go around it is the

ZOOM0052_Tr3 27:29

sound pretty fun

Phoebe Audio 27:30

Yeah. Yeah. Fun, but bit random. So basically, the format was you would race around this pump track and there was these like niche kind of punk bands playing and you sort of run around that loop tw- for 25 minutes and then there are people with like, um, like pads that kind of like bump into you a little bit and I don't know, I think it's meant to be like ki- it's rem- reminiscent of creating a circle pit except it's on a pump track and you're in running, you're like actually running. Basically, like it, this Event happened, People started posting content from it, and immediately people hated it. Yeah.

video 28:13

So,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 28:15

yeah, I will say at the top it is a bit of a random collaboration or partnership between Satisfy and Adidas, um, 'cause I feel like they're very different brands. But in a way, I actually kind of th- thought it was like smart marketing for both senses. 'Cause for Satisfy, obviously Adidas has a way bigger reach, so it would put them on the map to a lot more people. and then for Adidas, I don't know, it's not as though they're like a really cool brand. They're a very kind of mainstream brand. So I feel like it would kind of like lean in and it, it makes Adidas kind of look cooler, and then it w- has a bigger reach for Satisfy. So I can understand like why they did the

Phoebe Audio 28:57

it's 'cause Sa- Satisfye and Nike have beef because Nike released, a version of the Moth Tech last year that was, like, way cheaper, and Satisfye came out really hard against them, basically being like, "You've literally just ripped off our

ZOOM0052_Tr3 29:12

ripped off what we've...

Phoebe Audio 29:13

so, but made it, like, affordable for people. But so they are really anti-Nike, and so I actually feel like it's kind of a statement to be partnering with Adidas.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 29:23

Added us as well but yeah, so back to the actual event. So yeah, as you were saying, like, as soon as it kind of went on the World Wide Web, people were very quick to criticize. a lot of people thought it was, like, super cringe. Someone actually called it the cringiest moment in the history of running. and essentially, uh, thousands of TikToks and reels on Instagram, Substacks posted in response just being like, "This is so uncomfortable to watch."

Phoebe Audio 29:52

what do you think, like what do you think elicited that emotive reaction? Like people immediately were like, "Ugh, oh, I don't like this."

ZOOM0052_Tr3 29:59

I think it was because it did s- um, which I kind of agree, it was, like, obviously quite performative. And I think for a lot of people it was inauthentic 'cause they've literally just flown influencers out, which a lot of people... I, I don't know. I think there's like, we've spoken about it before, but there's this beef between kind of like influencers and, inverted commas, old school runners. And I feel like people love to hate these runfluencers because, I mean, for a lot of reasons. Um, but, but like they run and they just like post these like silly TikToks, and they kinda seem to get to like travel the world doing it. So in my mind, I'm like probably a bit jealous 'cause they are the ones that kind of get to live like a professional runner without actually having to a professional runner or that quick kind of thing.

Phoebe Audio 30:54

it's almost like a, an extension of that, preexisting dislike of those.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 30:59

yeah. What do you think?

Phoebe Audio 31:01

No, yeah, I agree. I mean, I agree that it does come off performative, I think is the right word. Like, you watch it and you're just like, "Oh, this really looks like they're all pretending to..." I don't know, it's just like a bunch of influencers in the desert running around this track kinda like yelling and like I think it looks c- really contrived. Like, it looks like it's just been set up for this, which it obviously has been. So I ki- I kind of understand that level of like, just a bit of like an ick that people had from it. there was also like another level of response that sort of like emerged, which was like less cringe and more like genuine anger re what they really feel like it's inauthentic for Satisfied to be claiming to be punk rock in any way. which kind of alludes what you were saying at the start. But there was one writer, Chris Z, who has his, piece has kind of been quoted a lot, and he essentially framed it as, like, cultural exploitation. He said, "The problem was the exploitation of a subculture that stands for everything Satisfye and Adidas are not. Something real is being used to sell something expensive." And I think, um, lots of people have been kind of referencing that Satisfye has raised actually millions of dollars of investment from venture capital and private equity, and is, is inherently just, like, very commercial, so it's, like, hardly kind of underground. and I think it's, it's offended a lot of people's punk sensibilities. So the, Bryce, who's the founder of Satisfye, hasn't formally, like, said anything about the backlash, but he did reach out to Chris Z after, Chris published his piece clarifying that he grew up skateboarding, playing in hardcore bands throughout the '90s, and is still straight edge, which I don't actually know what, what that means. But the, it's a

video 32:49

it's, um-

ZOOM0052_Tr3 32:49

you?

Phoebe Audio 32:50

it's Yeah. so with all this in mind, like, what do you think? Do you think this is, truly offensive to the punk rock scene? Do you think it's, like, kind of just lame? Or do you think people are overreacting and Satisfye is the real, victim here?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 33:05

I mean, I kinda think option E, like none of the above really. Like, oh, I do, truly do find it a little bit lame. I don't think it's offensive at all. actually and maybe I do think people are like slightly overreacting, but I feel like people love to hate, especially like online. I feel like, once a few people start kind of hating something and then it like gets into people's algorithm, I think it's just so easy to like pile on. and like we- I mean, we see it all the time with so many things. I definitely don't think like Satisfye's the real victim here. In any- if anything, like we're talking about them on the podcast, and we've never spoken about them before. So I feel like from a marketing perspective it's actually probably, it's done very well. But it does make me wonder, and I'd love to hear your thoughts about it, like how people are saying, you know, they're inauthentic, they're not underground, they've received heaps of, money from investors and that kind of thing. Like what do you think? Like what do brands owe us in that sense? you know, because they are like trying to appeal to that kind of like more like punk runner or whatever,

Phoebe Audio 34:11

yeah, yeah. I think it comes down to, like, authenticity, and I think people are very sensitive to if they don't feel like something is authentic then it's not real. Like, I, I agree with you that I don't see this is like cultural appropriation. I mean, I don't know anything about the punk culture, so I also don't feel like I can speak on the topic. However, I feel like funnily enough, it's such a small thing, but Bryce, the founder, being like, "No, I actually grew up doing this stuff. like, this is who I am, and this is, like, an extension of this brand," which is an extension of wh- who he is. Like, he lives and breathes it. Kind of did make me feel a little bit better about the whole thing. Just, and again, from like an authenticity perspective, I was like, "Oh, okay. Like, yeah, this, this was super cringe to watch," and that's fine. Like, I don't think it's aimed at us. Like, we're not people who buy Satisfye. We're not punk runners. That's all good. Like, it didn't need to be for us. But, like, I can kind of imagine how for him sitting around, like, maybe planning this with his marketing team, whatever, it would've been like, "This is gonna be the sickest thing ever. Like, we'll get them out. We'll get, like, the best punk bands. We'll run around. Like, like, oh, this will be so fun." And yeah, I'm like, "That

ZOOM0052_Tr3 35:25

hasn't eventuated

video 35:26

it.

Phoebe Audio 35:27

you know what else is funny too? Like, I, yeah, I feel like, and I also feel like my bias is that I don't like Satisfye as a brand. Like, I just don't. It's not for me, which is completely fine. It doesn't need to be for me. But, when I saw all the, like, Instagram content, I was like, "Yeah, this is super cringe." And then actually last night when I was doing prep for this episode, I watched their, like, the Satisfye YouTube video on the event, and they made it look so sick. their... It actually looked really fun, their, like, version of it. I don't know. Like, the music's actually quite... Like, it's not my style of music, but like it actually sounded really cool, and, like, everyone's, like, running around in the desert, and the sun's setting, and I don't know. I was like, "Oh, this, I can see where they were going with this. I can see what their vision was for it. People don't like to see other people, like, trying too hard to do different things, so I can also see why it struck the wrong chord, but I don't mind it

ZOOM0052_Tr3 36:20

mean, like the content like not being there was a bit cringe, but I can appreciate that if you were actually there, it probably would've been pretty fun.

video 36:28

It

Phoebe Audio 36:28

would have been pretty fun. Although, that said, I listened to, also in researching this ep, I listened to a an American podcast called The Drop, which is like a running podcast, where or one of the guys went, and he was like, "I'm gonna talk about it." And he s- was like, "It wasn't that fun." He was like, "It was like 90 degrees Fahrenheit," which I think is like 33 degrees or something in Australian, in Celsius.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 36:54

In Australian

Phoebe Audio 36:55

and he's like, the shoes that they launched," like they're like plated high-stack shoes, and you're to run around this like really bumpy like... And he's like, "Oh, it was just like really uncomfortable." And I was like, "Oh, okay. Okay, maybe, maybe it wasn't that fun."

ZOOM0052_Tr3 37:13

Um

Phoebe Audio 37:13

video... We'll, we'll, we'll link some videos in our, we'll pop them up in our stories so people can see for themselves. And we'd love to hear, do you guys think, what do you think? Do you think it was cringe or do you think it was cool? Or do you think it was offensive?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 37:25

I'd also love to hear if, like, are people running in Satisfy stuff? I would love to know.

Phoebe Audio 37:32

う ー ん。

ZOOM0052_Tr3 37:33

like if any of our listeners, like if you have stuff, one,

Phoebe Audio 37:36

や ー。 Who

ZOOM0052_Tr3 37:39

do you? like it? are

Phoebe Audio 37:41

Yeah. Yep. Yep. I love it. Um, okay. Up okay. Up next we have Am I the Asshole? Um, I think we have like 15 submissions this week, so I've culled it, um, down to three, which I'm gonna read to you now. I the asshole? I trained for 20 weeks for a half-marathon race. All my Strava friends knew about this. On the day it did not go to plan. Hard effort and bad pace. Am I the asshole for keeping this as a private run on Strava, and when people ask, saying I forgot to record on my watch?"

ZOOM0052_Tr3 38:21

Oh. I don't inherently think you're the asshole, however, one, I think you should probably look within and ask yourself why. Like, why does that, why does it matter? Like, no one... It's not gonna change your life whether you ran 10 minutes faster or slower. Um, and no one really cares. I don't like the bit that you're kinda like hiding it and also telling people that you forgot to record it, um, when that's just not the truth. I do feel like that is a little bit asshole behavior. But I do get that, you know, when you've trained really hard for something and it hasn't quite gone to plan, I can appreciate how maybe you feel, a little down and like almost It kinda sounds like there's a bit of shame in it, which I find really sad 'cause there shouldn't be. You should be like absolutely so proud of yourself for training for 20 weeks and doing a half-marathon race. and that almost, it more so just makes me feel sad that you don't feel like you're proud of it. Like, so many people have bad days. I mean, we even just spoke about earlier in this episode about how a professional runner ran in a four-minute race, ran eight seconds slower than the week before. Like, it, it

Phoebe Audio 39:41

Yeah.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 39:42

everyone. like no one is safe. so yeah, I, I think, I'm sorry that you didn't do well. I don't think you're the asshole, but I don't think you should be lying What do you reckon?

video 39:55

Yeah,

Phoebe Audio 39:55

I don't, I don't feel like you owe your... I mean, they specifically say My Strava Friends. So I don't know if they're, like, differentiating, like maybe they've told their real friends about it or, or like their friends in real life, not just... I don't know. Do you have people who you're just friends with on Strava? I actually don't know. But I don't feel like

ZOOM0052_Tr3 40:11

but... Oh, you know what? Actually, I feel like there are some people that I have on Strava that I wouldn't say I'm actually f- s- friends with, but we

Phoebe Audio 40:23

yeah. You're like

ZOOM0052_Tr3 40:23

give each

Phoebe Audio 40:24

acquaintances. Yeah, you've like raced against

ZOOM0052_Tr3 40:26

'cause you're like, it's a bit of a nod.

Phoebe Audio 40:28

Yeah. yeah, it's a bit of a nod.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 40:30

Hey, good job on that session.

Phoebe Audio 40:32

it's like that argument with some people are like, "Oh, y- social media shouldn't just be your highlight reel. Like, it should also be, like, the real parts of your life," which I don't believe, and I think it's fine to post whatever you want to. And I'm like, is this kind of the same thing, but for Strava? Like, do you have to post your, your, like, hard runs that don't give you joy to post? Like, does, does it matter? But then I do agree, ultimately, I'm like, I- only that I want for this person, I want them to be proud of their effort. Not all runs go to plan, and it's nothing to be embarrassed about. And probably if you posted it, you'd get a lot of people being like, "Great work," and maybe it would make you feel better about things.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 41:11

Uh, well, yeah, yeah, literally. I, yeah, I reckon the anticipation of what you think people might think about it is a lot worse than the reality. I reckon if anything, even especially if you said like, "This is really tough," I reckon people would get around you so

Phoebe Audio 41:25

Yeah. Go fishing. Get some sympathy.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 41:28

Yeah.

Phoebe Audio 41:30

Okay, number two. am I the asshole for sending through my friend's Instagram posts to official unofficial time for review? I, I said... Yeah, and then they said, "It's not my fault that they don't have the required race integrity. Ha ha ha. I'm doing God's work, just in a passive-aggressive way because I'm not game enough to tell them myself."

ZOOM0052_Tr3 41:50

So for those unacquainted, we have spoken about the page Official Unofficial Time. but it is an Instagram page where it calls out people who have posted on social media claiming that they've run a faster time than they have. A lot of the t- it's sort of centered around, like, running influencers who, and who a lot of them are trying to sell these run programs and saying, "I did this run program, and I ran this fast." Whereas then this page kind of calls them out being like, "You still did an amazing job, but you didn't actually run that fast. You ran this time." so but I, I kinda love this.

Phoebe Audio 42:34

So you think not the asshole?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 42:36

Oh, I definitely think you're an asshole for doing it, but I also love it at the same time. 'Cause it really does gripe me, and I don't know why, maybe I need to look at myself in the mirror. I feel like I just say to all of these, "You need to look at yourself in the mirror." But, like, I, it does really piss me off when people claim that they, like, run way faster than they did. I kinda think you're an asshole and you probably should just speak to your friend directly. But in the same vein, I reckon if someone is wanting to put out some false information, then they should be held accountable. What do you think?

Phoebe Audio 43:15

Snitches get stitches. No, just kidding. I do think this is, like, hectic. I would never, ever,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 43:23

I would never do this. Yeah, neither.

Phoebe Audio 43:26

I think how you feel about this depends on how you feel about official unofficial time, which I have gone so off as a page. I am so sick of their posts, and I am so now in this school of, like, I do not care. Most of them are, like, 30 seconds faster, and I'm like, "Well, this is not a big deal. You do not need to name and shame this person and, like, embarrass them." And not that... I know that's not their goal. They don't, like, they're not... They always say they're trying to be just fair. But I'm like, "I don't care." I actually don't care if anyone says a different...

ZOOM0052_Tr3 44:01

Yeah

Phoebe Audio 44:01

says a slightly different time and just, like, doesn't quite get that they, you know, you have your chip time, not Strava time. I feel like I initially cared a lot when the page started posting things, and now I think I've been so overexposed to it that I'm like, "Okay, enough. You've made your point. No more."

ZOOM0052_Tr3 44:17

move on. Yeah. I think the thing when I, it annoys me is when I see then it's, like, people also trying to sell these, running plans.

Phoebe Audio 44:25

Yes, that is true.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 44:26

L- like, it just

Phoebe Audio 44:27

yeah. Oh, no, that's actually true. They're, they're the ones who... It's when it's just like a, someone going about doing a half-marathon, and they post that they did, like, an hour 41, and then the unofficial's like, "You did an hour 42," like, has a screenshot of them with their medal after the race. I'm Get off their back." Um, okay, final one. Okay, am I the asshole? I've been running for over a year now, and I got glandular fever a few months back. I've been trying to build back up from it, and I've hit a few road blocks, but I'm feeling good. Not where I was, but I made progress. My partner does power-lifting and wanted to get some cardio in and asked to join me on my run. He completely smoked me and did significantly better than I did, and I got a bit upset and said I'd prefer to run by myself. He has respected my wishes and is really supportive, as he knows it's my passion and doesn't want to make me feel disheartened. Am I the asshole for wanting to gatekeep my sport?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 45:24

Oh, this is a tough one. It kind of pulls at your heartstrings with the glandular fever a few months back and trying to build up and have hit a few roadblocks. I hear you, sister, um, or brother. Um

Phoebe Audio 45:36

Anna's, like, crying as she listens.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 45:40

I think if the reason is because you don't want them to beat you, I feel like that is a bit asshole behavior

Phoebe Audio 45:48

sorry. The asshole in this is the partner who was like, "I'll join you on your run, babe," and then smoked you when you've been sick with glandular fever. That is the only asshole

ZOOM0052_Tr3 45:58

true. Actually, you know what? I think you should sit down with your partner and say, "I'm more than happy for you to join my runs. Like, it would be nice, uh, thing for us to do. Let's try it again. However, if we're gonna run together, we run together. You don't half step me, or you don't run in front of me. We're actually running together.".

Phoebe Audio 46:18

Like- this poor

ZOOM0052_Tr3 46:19

not running together. It's not a race. Like, you're meant to be doing an activity. but at the same, in the same token, if you actually just wanna run by yourself 'cause, you know, you sort of, that's when you get mental clarity, blah, blah, blah, I think that's also completely fair enough. But yeah, if it's because they ran off on you, then

video 46:37

not,

Phoebe Audio 46:38

That is literally so dog to be like, "Oh, can I come with you on your run?" And then just completely smoke you.

video 46:44

Bye.

Phoebe Audio 46:45

okay, let's jump into our final segment, your realistic rehab diaries. I wanna hear about how your return to running is going. how's the foot feeling?

ZOOM0052_Tr3 46:55

oh, I was, I did wanna say at the top, so thank you so much to... I actually got quite a few messages from people just saying, like, empathizing with what I said last week about their injury anxiety and how, like, getting back into running, I, convinced myself that I'd broken my foot and, um, yada, yada, yada. And so many people had written in being like, I completely hear this," like, "I felt exactly the same." It seems like the people who seem to struggle with this are people that have had, recurring or, like, a couple of injuries, not necessarily, like, back to back, but, like, an accumulation of them, so then they're just, like, so apprehensive to get back into things. And I, was chatting with, one of my friends, Izzy, who listens to the pod, and she has had, like, quite a few injuries. and was just sort of, just mentioned how then, like, friends and stuff say, "Oh, you're always injured," which I don't think helps either because then you kind of, like, have that in your head and being like, "Oh, why?" Like, it kind of just, like, adds to the angst. So yes, thank you, uh, to the people who wrote in. But my foot is, it's actually feeling good. I would say it's feeling a bit better than it was last week, which is a positive. I haven't been wearing the carrier at all. Sorry, when I say at all, I think I've worn it twice this week, but when I've been sitting down. and it's funny now when I, like, when I stood up in it, I, like, kind of felt this thing, like, f- from my back, going down my leg. So I've actually booked in to go to the osteo next week, because he was the one that helped me with my back when I was pregnant and struggling. Um, but I ran six kilometers this morning

Phoebe Audio 48:37

Oh my God. Continue this.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 48:39

Yep.

Phoebe Audio 48:41

Anna

ZOOM0052_Tr3 48:42

Was it the best 30 minutes ever? Yes. b- but yeah, it was, it was so good. Holy hell, it was hard. it was so

Phoebe Audio 48:53

is so exciting

ZOOM0052_Tr3 48:55

know, and I, I think 6Ks, like, I was talking to a girlfriend afterwards, and she was like, "Oh, s- I, 6Ks is enough to get the buzz

Phoebe Audio 49:04

Oh, most of my runs this week have been six, six

ZOOM0052_Tr3 49:07

Yeah, and I'm like, that is so true. I still have been, like, loving the runs and the walk-runs, but I feel like 6Ks, you all of a sudden are like, no, I feel, I like, I feel I'm buzzy after. Yeah.

Phoebe Audio 49:18

so back

ZOOM0052_Tr3 49:20

oh my God, it was so, so fun. Uh, once again, though, say I feel so unfit, like so much more unfit than I have coming back from any injury, which is kind of wild 'cause I feel like, like I was exercising a lot, like all pregnancy. Um, but like I really just, I just don't care, like about the like unfit thing. I'm just so happy to be running.

Phoebe Audio 49:42

Yeah. That's so good.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 49:44

I will say, so I am getting coached again by Ellie, my old coach, and she has been so, so helpful. She, has two kids, and I feel like we've been chatting heaps, like, all through to, like, ensure that I'm feeling good after each one and, like, not progressing too quickly and, like, not doing too much. And she's been, like, scheduling in a rest day each week and that kind of thing. and I feel like that's really helped, like, having that person who I feel like knows a bit more, has sort of experienced it, um, and is just kind of a bit of a,

video 50:16

a,

ZOOM0052_Tr3 50:16

like, sounding board and, like, someone to, like, guide me. And like I even said to her, I was like, when I first messaged her, I was like, "I have been waiting, like, t- two years to message you being like, 'Can you please coach me again?'"

Phoebe Audio 50:32

Will you be my

ZOOM0052_Tr3 50:33

She's probably like, "This chick."

Phoebe Audio 50:35

Yeah, literally. No, that is so exciting.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 50:38

feel like I can't say no.

Phoebe Audio 50:40

no, that's huge. I mean, it's huge that your foot's feeling better. 30 minutes continuous, that is like, what a massive thing to celebrate.

ZOOM0052_Tr3 50:47

I know.

Phoebe Audio 50:48

hopefully it's just all downhill/uphill, whichever one it's meant to be, the good one from

ZOOM0052_Tr3 50:54

The good one, whichever the good one is. Um, so yes, I'm back and I'm excited to go for a run with you

Phoebe Audio 51:01

Yay. So exciting

ZOOM0052_Tr3 51:03

Whoop, whoop. all right, I think that's all we've got time for today. Thank you so much to everyone for tuning in. Let us know any feedback or questions you may have or, if there's anything you want us to cover, we'd love to hear from you, and we can't wait to be in your ears next week

Phoebe Audio 51:20

Bye!

ZOOM0052_Tr3 51:21

Bye

video 51:25

Done, Dave

Phoebe Audio 51:27

they would, um, run around this pump track while this,

video 51:32

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ZOOM0052_Tr3 51:33

Floss is pooing. Listen to her. for Adidas... Oh my God, Oh my God. She... Sorry, she just did the loudest poo.