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43. The Power of Lifestyle Choices and Epigenetics, Part 2: With Lori Finlay, M.S.N., NP
Join Trisha Jamison and her husband Jeff as we discover the secrets to reclaiming your hormonal health with our special guest and functional medicine practitioner , Lori Finlay, as we navigate through the complex world of hormone balance. We're confident you'll walk away with actionable insights on preventing and managing hormone-related conditions like estrogen dominance, endometriosis, and migraines. Together, we challenge misconceptions stemming from the 2002 Women's Health Initiative, offering strategies to address the root causes of hormonal issues instead of merely treating symptoms.
This episode is all about empowering women to take charge of their health through education and self-advocacy. By understanding personal health factors, from family history to lifestyle choices, and recognizing the impact of environmental toxins, women can effectively advocate for themselves in healthcare settings. We dive into practical tips on embracing epigenetics through conscious lifestyle changes, highlighting the importance of nutrient-rich foods and clean, organic products. Collaboration between patients and healthcare providers is key, and we equip you with the tools to engage in meaningful conversations that lead to better health outcomes.
Uncover the power of the Dutch test, a comprehensive hormone assessment tool, as we discuss its role in understanding hormone levels, metabolism, and adrenal function. Lori shares affordable hormone balance solutions, such as progesterone cream, and explores the framework of creation principles—see, say, feel, do, and become—to develop meaningful habits. Through visualization, positive affirmations, and personal stories, we provide a foundation for lasting change, ensuring you leave equipped to shape your long-term health and vitality.
See part 1 for Lori's contact information.
You can contact us for questions and feedback to: trishajamisoncoaching@gmail.com.
Hello and welcome to the Q&A Files, the ultimate health and wellness playground. I'm your host, tricia Jamieson, a board-certified functional nutritionist and lifestyle practitioner, ready to lead you through a world of health discoveries. Here we dive into a tapestry of disease prevention, to nutrition, exercise, mental health and building strong relationships, all spiced with diverse perspectives. It's not just a podcast, it's a celebration of health, packed with insights and a twist of fun. Welcome aboard the Q&A Files, where your questions ignite our vibrant discussions and lead to a brighter you. Welcome back to the Q&A Files. In part two, we're diving even deeper into the conversation with Lori, where we'll explore hormone health, biohacking and the impact of advanced testing like the Dutch and DNA tests. Let's jump right back in. Hello, lori.
Speaker 2:Hi, it's so great to be back. Thank you so much, Tricia.
Speaker 1:Absolutely so. You also highlight hormone health as a key predictor for hormone-related cancers, right? Dr Cody Ellison has made significant contributions in this area. How can you, with your expertise, empower women to take charge of their hormone health?
Speaker 2:This is one of my passions, right Again, part of it is because of what I went through like didn't have a clue, and I want women to start understanding. Right, and that's one of the reasons that I did that. I created my big hormone quizzes, my hormonal package of quizzes, because I want women to understand, okay, these symptoms I'm having. Like I had no idea that these were related to hormones. I had no idea this could be testosterone deficiency or estrogen dominance. What does that mean and what can I do about it? So the most important thing is I want women to start being hormone savvy. I want them to start paying attention to their body, because so much of what we experience is very insidious and I've had so try and not get emotional here. I've had so many women that have come to see me in their early thirties and the medical community has said quote of course you feel old, you're getting old. Wait, they're 32 years old. They didn't do any lab testing no functional lab testing, of course and just sent them out the door with synthetic thyroid in 15 minutes right One, that was my favorite. Right, she'd put on 50 pounds. This was a cheerleading coach, like she was an athlete right, an athlete and puts on 50 pounds and feels horrible, isn't sleeping, can't think, her hair is falling out. So, you know, all he did was say, oh, here, you need some falling out. So all he did was say, oh, here, you need some synthetic thyroid. No, the problem was that she had severe heavy metal toxicity and Epstein-Barr, right, and we didn't even do a DNA test yet to see if she had methylation issues and all this other stuff going on. But they never addressed any of the root causes, right. But her hormones were a mess. And I mean, I've seen young women, for instance another quick story, a young mom that I know she had. Well, I could tell you several stories. One, a young mom that had endometriosis and she was a mother of seven. Of course, her gynecologist said let's cut out your uterus. So they cut out her uterus and 18 months later all of her symptoms, including the horrific abdominal pain, are back and she's gaining all this weight. She's got anxiety and depression and guess what, taking out her organ, doing the hysterectomy, because they used to say women had hysteria. That's what they called hormonal imbalance. We were just hysterical, right, I didn't know this. Oh, this was back in the 50s and 60s. It was called hysteria, and so they just did a hysterectomy and they never got to the root cause, right? And of course I did a Dutch hormone test.
Speaker 2:And this woman is a mess, with poor hormone metabolism and hormonal imbalance, causing estrogen dominance which causes endometriosis, which for our listeners that's like way too much estrogen compared to progesterone. And part of that was because, mother of seven, she's under unbelievable stress and her adrenals were flatline and they weren't giving her any support, right? Or another one who had migraines for seven years, daily, horrific, debilitating migraines. And I knew and I've known this gal for a few years, I knew that it was hormonal imbalance and estrogen dominance, but I didn't overstep my role as friend, right. I kind of hinted occasionally, but she wasn't ready.
Speaker 2:Then she got pregnant and her progesterone levels skyrocketed, like they do in pregnancy, and guess what? The headaches all went away because now she's got more progesterone compared to the toxic estrogens in her body. So they were gone for nine months, babies born within a couple of weeks. The migraines are back. So her Western medicine trained physician wanted to now prescribe synthetic progesterone.
Speaker 2:And that's when I overstepped my bounds and said okay, I love you too much, I'm going to please beg you not to do this and started her on natural progesterone cream and in two weeks the headaches, the migraines have been gone. And that's been eight months ago. Like simple things. Women need to understand their hormones. They need to understand about estrogen dominance, and that means too much of the fake toxic estrogens compared to healthy, god-given progesterone. And now I want to come back to estrogen. Unfortunately, because of the news of the Women's Health Initiative and I know Dr Cody spoke about this right, the Women's Health Initiative of 2002, and all the news around the world that hormones cause breast cancer and strokes and heart disease, you know that they're dangerous and we shouldn't-.
Speaker 3:There is back a decade my oh.
Speaker 2:More than that, I think right Again. You know, overnight, like prescriptions for hormones fell, you know, fell dramatically dropped off. Women were left absolutely desperate. And so women have been taught for years and years and years that estrogen is bad. No, god made God given. Estrogen is what protects our heart, it what, what protects our breasts and protects our brain and protects our bones. So I want women to understand like no, we need this. And if you're having hormonal symptoms, even if you don't know their hormonal symptoms, if you've got symptoms you should probably check. That's why I did my hormonal quizzes like ding ding, ding, ding ding. You might have this hormonal imbalance and here's what you can do, diy at home, to help heal your body and heal your endocrine system before they even slap on some hormones. But we need to understand that we need healthy hormonal imbalance and we need estrogen and we need healthy progesterone levels and we need healthy testosterone levels. So if your provider isn't providing that, you need to fire them and find someone who will.
Speaker 3:And that's a big problem right there, and that's one of the things that I would like to have you address for a second is what do you tell women to say to their provider? If they're not really understanding how to get to the root cause, what do you have them say?
Speaker 2:Well, again, that's one of the reasons I've written the book and why I'm going into such detail in my workbook, my companion workbook, even including a link to here's my huge questionnaire. You know, even including a link to here's my huge questionnaire. Here's all of the questions that I ask a new client, like from a functional medicine standpoint. Here's all the things that I want to know that are going on in your life and what you're putting on your body and your hair, what you're cleaning with, what your family history was, did you had childhood adverse events all of these things that might be impacting your hormones. Like, if a woman educates herself that much now she can go in. She is now armed as her own advocate to go into a physician and say this is what's going on, here's my symptoms, here's my history, here's what I've done to change everything. And I need some support and I think I need some bioidentical hormones or they can at least, right, get some healthy, organic wild yam cream and start supporting themselves that way.
Speaker 2:And again, I've got blog articles and I write about it in the book on all this. But I mean, women can start doing that in their teens and twenties, right, they can start addressing this and start getting rid of the toxins and start nourishing their hormones properly. So if they go to a provider and a provider looks at them with deer in the headlights like I don't know what you're talking about, like what are you talking about, then it's probably time for a new provider. Right, and I know that's hard and there's a lot of providers out there that don't have a clue, they don't have the time, they don't take the time. But I think that's what's awesome about the gift of the internet is that women can now search for and get resources healthy resources and listen to experts and start doing things at home, to take charge, even if their medical provider is 10 to 20 years behind.
Speaker 3:And it's really hard because, I mean, I can tell you, as a busy physician myself, it's really hard to dive into these kinds of things and many other things. It's really hard to dive into it and to know everything. And it's not that you need to. What you need to be, in my opinion, as a physician or other provider of any kind, is to be open and to listen and to be able to, because what I found is that most patients, when they've taken the time to invest in themselves and do their own research, they're usually coming up with things that you better listen to. And the other thing that's interesting is that when people come to me and tell me what say you know, I'm sorry, I've been researching on the internet. I think you probably hate that. I stop them right there and say, no, please, I don't have time to research all the things about you. So you've done some research, tell me what you found and let's work on it together.
Speaker 2:I can order some lab tests. What do you think? And let me go through, you know, some hypotheses, right, and some differential diagnosis on all this. Let's do this together and create partnership.
Speaker 3:Right, and that's the thing that I think really is the big difference between doctors who are really set on their own understanding and those who are open to learning outside of the box a little bit. And you know there are lots of areas that are within the sound of our voices here that really you don't really have a lot of options when it comes to providers. To go find another provider is to mean, may mean to travel hundreds of miles and that may not be something that you can do.
Speaker 3:Or it's out of your insurance network and you don't have exactly, and you've only got, you know, two nickels to rub together, and so these are things that you know you have to take into as a human being and say, okay, I do need to advocate for myself, I need to have information, like we're trying to give to you today, and get some new understanding about me specifically, Right, right, and that's why I am passionate about teaching about epigenetics.
Speaker 2:It's like wait, you mean that if I incorporate the simple things you teach in your book, I'm going to actually up-level and improve the function of all of my genes, all of your genes. Yes, you may have some genetic variations. That I do. They call them again SNPs, single nucleotide polymorphism, or a variation that needs a little bit more of this supplement or a little bit more of that supplement that you know can be tweaked, but everyone can either make their good genes dirty or their bad genes better. Right, like you know, are you going to have a glass of wine or a glass of water with lemon or a green drink? You choose, but one of them, the green drink, is going to support healthy hormone metabolism and the glass of wine is going to sabotage it. Are you going to have those French fries, with each French fry equaling to one cigarette of oxidative stress, or are you going to have a salad? Right, like, we get to choose.
Speaker 3:Right. And you have to also remember, on salads, to not load it with so much dressing that you just take out whatever you just gained, right? So all of those dirty oils right.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. We may have to be savvy and go to the grocery store and search out. I mean, I use Primal Kitchen oils because they're clean, clean, organic. So, good, so good Delicious.
Speaker 1:Expensive, but so good.
Speaker 2:Expensive but so good Like so is healing your body. From what I've went through, that's right, just tell you right. So I'd rather pay for the bottle of oil, right. Or have an avocado and smoosh it up, and that adds flavor, or add some healthy seeds and things to the salad to spice it up, even if you just have some nice healthy oil and vinegar right Instead of some ooey gooey salad.
Speaker 3:There's some great balsamic vinegars and things like that. They're just to die for To die for right, even flavored vinegars.
Speaker 2:I mean, some of them have sugar in them, right. But you can get fancy flavored vinegars that are just like wow, yeah, right, and add all this flavor and deliciousness to a recipe that you don't. It doesn't take much.
Speaker 1:No, Well. And spices. Spices add so much flavor as well. And herbs I mean. There's just so much out there that we can do. And the other thing is, your taste buds do change. They do change and your body really craves a good food. We don't think it does at the time because we're wanting sugars and carbs and all the things that we're used to eating the American diet but once we start eating better, your body wants that.
Speaker 3:It was very interesting. I had a woman that was, I believe she's 45. And she came to me and she's come to me several times, you know basically crying because she's gained 35 pounds over where she was when she was a teenager and she just says I do everything, I work out, I do this, I do that. And I finally dug in and said okay, do you want to really lose weight? Well, yes, I said well, tell me what you eat. And she started telling me, and it was like Doritos and Chips, ahoy cookies, and she has a whole bunch of M&Ms at her next to her desk.
Speaker 1:She eats so good.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, but I eat so good, yeah. And I said, how much do you exercise really? And she said, well, I walk, you know, basically to the mailbox and back, you know, and that's about it. And I said, well, tell me about, do you eat any fruits or vegetables? She says, well, I like apples, but I don't really like any other fruits and I don't like vegetables. And I said, how old are you? She said, whatever, she was 42 or something like that. And I said, well, it's time to take your teenager taste buds into your adulthood. It's time to move on.
Speaker 3:And you have got to start eating vegetables. Your body's craving them. Well, we started, you know, having her move towards those things and said you have to drink 80 ounces of water a day Good water every day. I can't do that, it'll interfere with my coffee. And so, once she started to cut these other things out, she's down 15 pounds in two months.
Speaker 1:I mean, it doesn't take long, and she's thrilled.
Speaker 3:It's like I had no idea. I had no idea. It's like, of course you did. You just didn't want to do it.
Speaker 1:And it's so funny. It's like, of course you did, you just didn't want to do it. And it's so funny. We have a teenage son and the last, probably week especially, I've been making. I make smoothies every morning and he just does not eat. Well, I mean, we will have all the vegetables, great food, in front of him and he just he's a teenager, right, right, but I think he's starting to recognize when he doesn. He's a teenager, right, right, but I think he's starting to recognize when he doesn't eat well, how he feels.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:You have to get to that place, but lately it's been great. So he's starting to get into a wrestling season in the next couple of weeks and so now all of a sudden, things are really important to him and just before he goes to an early morning seminary class and usually he's not hungry in the morning, but lately all of a sudden he's been having his. You know, I give him a cup of a smoothie and usually I have to, you know whatever it is, to get him to take it or to drink it, but on his own he has been totally drinking it and, mom, this is really good. He's actually been saying thank you, because I think he's starting to recognize when he does have it. Yes, he feels better throughout the day, he has more energy, he can think more clearly. I mean, there's just a lot that sets you up for success throughout your day.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 1:You use advanced tools like the Dutch hormone test and DNA testing in your practice. How do these tests provide women with valuable insights into their health and how can they shape personalized treatment plans?
Speaker 2:Oh, I love this topic. I started using the Dutch test about eight or nine years ago. This topic. I started using the Dutch test about eight or nine years ago and it's been amazing to me. In fact, I've actually called the company in tears to thank them for this test, because what I can do for women now that I couldn't do 20 years ago when I was certified.
Speaker 1:I can't wait to hear about this.
Speaker 2:Initially certified in hormone health right 20 years ago, we'd have to do urine and blood and saliva testing to try and get what we can get out of the Dutch test. So the Dutch test is a DIY at home right. They send you a kit and for my clients I can get them a hundred dollar discount. You can use the code LD, as in Don, LDF 100, and get a hundred dollars off.
Speaker 2:But anyway, with that said, you know the show notes just for little tiny swabs of cotton that are like the size of your baby finger, that you will. You'll have five cortisol samples that you'll do throughout the day and four urine samples. So you can either pee in a cup and dip this little paper in, or you can pee on the paper, whatever you want to do, and you let it dry. Let that paper dry overnight, you write down, you know a questionnaire and you send that all in within 14 days, typically max. The results come back and it measures not only your hormone levels, and they're, I mean, tremendous amounts of science to prove that this is accurate, even more accurate in many cases than just a serum test. And again, this isn't just a blood test.
Speaker 3:Which is a blood test.
Speaker 2:I love it. So this isn't just a blood test at 10 am. This is my hormone level at 10 am. There's four levels throughout the day and then several cortisol levels as well. But they're also testing your hormone metabolism and the various pathways for your estrogen and progesterone and testosterone, and you see DHEA and you'll see an entire amazing adrenal profile.
Speaker 1:So Laurie share that. Talk more into. What does it mean when you're talking about hormone metabolism? Explain that a little bit more please.
Speaker 2:So we mentioned that a little bit more, please. So we mentioned that a little bit earlier. The four well, the two is the healthy, the 16 and the four hydroxylation. So it's just three different biochemical pathways or metabolic or metabolism pathways for you to metabolize your estrogens. The two hydroxylation is healthy, the two hydroxylation is healthy and the four and 16 are unhealthy.
Speaker 2:And when I see a Dutch test, I can actually right there, whether it's the methylation patterns we see or the metabolism patterns that I see, I can typically pick out here's what's going on genetically. It's really fascinating, really exciting and fascinating to map over a DNA test and the Dutch test to be able to see okay, here's your wiring and here's how it's expressing itself. We talked about the piano expressing itself. So again, I can look at a Dutch test and go, huh, there is a good possibility that you've got some funky wiring going and some funky genes going on and we need to support those. What's really fascinating is when I do a DNA test and we look at it and go, wow, there is no reason for you to have these lousy results. Like you're dirtying your good genes by your diet and lifestyle. Other people you know they're doing all they can right, they really are having a lot of fruits and vegetables and cruciferous and on and on and on, but they've got some genetic variations that they need to support and upregulate through excess nutritionals and things like that. But again, with the Dutch test, it shows us neurotransmitters, it shows us gut health and neuroinflammation. It shows us your cortisol awakening response and what your adrenal reserve looks like.
Speaker 2:And women don't understand the link between stress, ie their adrenal function, their cortisol levels. They don't understand stress and what that does to hormonal imbalance. In medical terms we call it, you know, pregnenolone steel. So pregnenolone is the precursor to progesterone and then progesterone, you know, then helps create the estrogens and testosterone and DHA and all this and even your cortisol. So if we're, if our cortisol levels are ramped up, we're going to be depleting our progesterone like crazy on high right and as our progesterone drops.
Speaker 2:Now we've got this horrific estrogen-progesterone imbalance which causes the estrogen dominance, which is all relative. It's all about how much progesterone compared to estrogen, whether it's healthy, good estrogens or toxic estrogens from our environment. We still need a really good, healthy progesterone estrogen ratio and when we're under stress then that blows it all Like. It just sabotages those healthy balances. So you know we can talk to and who isn't under stress Exactly, we can talk to her blue in the face and say we need to manage stress.
Speaker 2:You know people would be amazed if they saw how much progesterone I'm on as a post-mental puzzle woman who's up to a lot of big things and to keep my body balanced Right. So if you go to your doctor and he just gives you a hundred milligrams of you know progesterone, I'm saying that's a drop in the bucket. It's probably not going to handle it for a lot of women. But younger women, right, I've seen young women and perimenopausal women dramatically improve their hormone balance and their symptoms by just starting on progesterone cream for a couple of weeks in the month during their cycle. This is so good.
Speaker 1:So so good.
Speaker 3:So do you. So you prefer the progesterone cream over the progesterone, the good progesterone capsules.
Speaker 2:No, actually for young women, if bioidentical hormones cost a lot of money. And so for younger women right, that you know right now they just need a little boost of progesterone. I'll recommend them using some wild yam cream that they can get, organic, good wild yam cream that will boost them up, Right, and it's not as expensive as getting a bioidentical progesterone capsule. Now I've used and I'll share with listeners. Some might think this is TMI, but I'm like. Here's my experience.
Speaker 2:I've tried the pellets. You know the pellets, some people love them. You insert a pellet like it's a little teeny Tablet. Well, it looks like a little tiny. You know, like when you have a leaded pencil, right Like a leaded pencil, and you buy the lead and you put it in. It's similar to that right, Okay, Really small, and it's about a half inch and they will do a little incision and implant that in there and it's loaded with all these hormones that are supposed to last anywhere from three to six months, and so you get a peak crop.
Speaker 2:And I've tried those and so for me it didn't. I was too imbalanced, Like it just did not work. I did not appreciate it. So I use testosterone as a lozenge under my tongue in the morning, and I use vaginal suppositories for progesterone and estrogen. That is what has worked best for me, particularly as we age A lot of women. As we age, the hydrochloric acid can drop on our stomach, so we may not be absorbing our nutrients and or our prescriptions as well, and it could be even our hormones. So that's why I like to use the suppositories instead of a capsule.
Speaker 3:And testosterone is eliminated in the first pass metabolism, so you can't even use testosterone orally. Swallowing testosterone, it's of no use, right, um, but uh, yeah, so I, I hear what you're saying as a sublingual under your tongue, letting it dissolve and absorb there. A lot of people use creams bioidentical creams of testosterone too. Have you ever tried that?
Speaker 2:yes, I have. I've absolutely tried that and I've had clients that have tried that. I've had clients that have used that as well and they've had great results. So it depends. I think it's good. I think it's important for women to try that and see what they like best and go from there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, excellent, okay, we've got one more question. So you introduced the creation principles see, say, feel, do and become as a framework for lasting change. How can these principles help women develop meaningful habits without feeling overwhelmed by perfectionism?
Speaker 2:First of all, I think it's important for us to understand that. It comes back to again what Dr Bruce Lipton has said, right, the power of our thoughts and our intentions and the things that we're saying to ourselves every day do impact our physiology. Right In my workbook, I really focus on women getting really, really, really honest with their current reality. What is your current reality? How are you feeling? How have you been treated? You know, in the Western medical system? Have you? Words will impact our health and will impact our biochemistry, the biochemistry of our blood. That will impact our cells, that will impact our DNA. Well then, for heaven's sakes, let's start repeating positive affirmations every day. I feel vital and strong. I mean, even in my calendar, I don't just say exercise, I say I feel strong and flexible after my Pilates routine, right, like literally putting out there and create what I want my body to feel like and the partnership that I want with my healthcare provider. Right, so that, if we can actually start visualizing, this is what I want. You know, deepak Chopra says, right, that our environment, our diet and, again, our thoughts can impact our health for 20 to 30 to 50 years from now. So I want this message to reach. You know your listeners that are 20 and 30 and 40 and 50 years old. What you're doing now makes a difference. So if you can start visualizing, this is what I want my health to look like, how much vitality I want. And again, vitality isn't just physical, it's emotional and mental and spiritual. It's all right. This is what I want to feel and what I want my life to feel like when I'm 65 years old. Can I play with my grandchildren? Can I take them to Disney World for the day and feel fabulous? Do I have the energy and stamina and mental capacity and the passion to be still making a difference in the world? Do I feel sexy? Do I feel passionate with my partner that we can have a wonderful romantic sexual relationship with great orgasms? We can say this on this show. But I mean, can we be really thrilled with our lives and have the energy and vitality?
Speaker 2:The answer is yes, but we need to be able to create that and then use these principles of seeing what I want it to look like, really speaking and articulating it and watching what we're saying every day, really incorporating that feeling and I juice my affirmations up, the feeling of it with movement and with music. Get that in my heart and soul. This is what I'm creating every day and that then fuels the doing. So. If you think about an iceberg, all we see when we see an iceberg is the very top, and we know that there's three to four to five times more ice under the water than on top. So the spiritual creation of see, say and feel are that important. We can just start exercising and changing our diet, right. But in the moment when life hits us or our schedules change, right. If we don't really have that deep spiritual creation of the see, say and feel, then we're going to blow that Well, forget it, right.
Speaker 2:And so I teach principles of like, even the power of 10, sometimes, you know, 10 years is too far away. But how do I want to feel in 10 minutes or 10 hours, like right now, in the next 10 seconds? This mint chocolate chip ice cream that would be my favorite, right. Or this gelato when I went to Europe, just saying I had plenty of gelato but typically I don't have any sugar. But in 10 minutes or 10 seconds, this taste is exquisite and in 10 minutes I could still be really happy. But how am I going to feel in 10 hours. Or if I have a lot of bread, I can't have bread because of the gluten and what it does to restless leg syndrome. Like, how am I going to feel in 10 hours if I don't sleep because I had a bunch of bread? Like, choose right and and I also teach women about the concept called floors and ceilings right.
Speaker 2:If we can have you know, we start our new year's resolutions with here's my ultimate goal. If we can have you know we start our New Year's resolutions with here's my ultimate goal. I want to do, you know, my yoga every single day and an hour a day, and this is what I'm committed to. And life happens and then we quit, like we can't get the consistency. But if we develop what I call a floor right, which is a one minute version so you spoke earlier, jeff, about people just walk to the mailbox that could be your one-minute version, committed every single day, consistently. I at least do my one-minute version and then you've got your huge goal. So if we can do our one-minute version and not beat ourselves up and create the consistency without the perfectionism, so honoring ourselves, like I'm being consistent, I am creating a healthier Lori every single day, right, so good. We can gradually make these changes without beating ourselves up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, so good.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Jeff, do you have any last minute comments or questions for her?
Speaker 3:When you get the results of a Dutch test, does the test give you interpretation of the test as well?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:The Dutch test gives you extensive interpretation and they have an incredible team of providers that you can call any day and say, hey, I have a five-minute consult or you can schedule one in advance. I've got a client right now and it is heavy duty. What she's dealing with hormonally we're talking big, big, big issues and way more advanced than her endocrinologist or I can even solve on my own. So I'm going to set up an hour long consult with the Dutch team that can see this, you know, and help us understand why she's getting repeated pituitary tumors, like what is going on, and for us to be able to get in at the root cause and heal this right, this right. But typically a five-minute call and I've done it for so many years. All I need is a five-minute call. Here's what I see. Here's what I'm going to do. Anything I'm missing right Now. Your question, jeff.
Speaker 3:The other question is how much does a Dutch test cost usually?
Speaker 2:A Dutch test. The one that I use and prefer the most is the Dutch Plus test, which is $650 retail is the Dutch Plus test, which is $650 retail. Again, I can give people a discount. The Dutch just the Dutch Complete is about 400. And you can get. They have smaller subsets of tests. If all you want to do is the cortisol awakening response and look at their adrenal profile, that's just a couple hundred bucks.
Speaker 2:They have a more advanced test called the Dutch Mapping for women that are trying to get pregnant or having significant hormonal issues. I mean, I had one client in her mid-30s. She didn't want to get pregnant, but she was crashing before her cycle and so we did the Dutch mapping that looks at 14 days of hormone levels, and we could clearly see that she was ovulating early. She was not only ovulating early, but her estrogen levels were plummeting on a very steep, steep line, and so all we had to do was tweak her diet a bit and give her a teeny supplement. It was just like well, there you go. Now I don't need anti-anxiety meds and antidepressants, it's just a little tweak in her hormones.
Speaker 1:So, lori, are you taking clients currently?
Speaker 2:I am taking clients currently right. You know, so I'll do a conversation. As far as a full-time coaching client, right, I'll just take five long-term clients and I'm starting my group coaching program, you know, at the beginning of the year, which means that you know, women can do a Dutch test and we can go over their particular test, even on the Zoom call together. And what's so great about that is every single woman, as they start implementing what I tell one client, it's going to dramatically improve their hormones.
Speaker 1:Oh, I love group. Yeah, so great For our listeners interested in diving deeper into your work. Where can they find more information and what special offers do you have for them today?
Speaker 2:So you can find me at lauriefinlaycom F as in Francis I-N-L-A-Y. You can find me at Instagram at lauriefinlaynpcoach. And for your listeners today you can go to. What I'm providing for them is not only the first free chapter one of my book, but also $30 off my very advanced hormone courses right, and this is not only estrogen and progesterone, testosterone and your adrenal hormones and thyroid, like here's some basic information that you need to know. Like, oh, those symptoms are leading to this and what can I do on my own? So really teaching them basics about healing their endocrine system and making it function better. So they'll get $30 off for that. So if they go to Lori Finlay L-O-R-I F, as in Francis I-N-L-A-Ycom forward slash Q-A files no, and just QA files lauriefinleycom forward slash QA files then they can get the free copy of the book and get the big discount on the hormone quizzes. Look at that.
Speaker 1:Fantastic, awesome. Okay, well, thank you, laurie.
Speaker 1:So much for sharing your incredible expertise with us today, from exploring epigenetics to practical biohacking and hormone health. It's clear that reclaiming our vitality is not only achievable but essential. So for our listeners, don't forget to check out Lori's book Create the Vitality you Crave and take advantage of her special offer. Details will be in the show notes. She just shared them right now with you and, as always, thank you so much for tuning in to the Q&A files. Please send your questions to Trisha Jamison coaching at gmailcom, so maybe you can be featured on our upcoming episodes. So please remember to hit subscribe, leave a review and share with your friends and family. Stay curious, stay empowered, and we can't wait to see you next week. Bye, everybody.
Speaker 3:Bye, bye.
Speaker 1:Thanks, lori. Thanks for tuning in to the Q&A Files, delighted to share today's gems of wisdom with you. Your questions light up our show, fueling the engaging dialogues that make our community extra special. Keep sending your questions to trishajon coaching at gmailcom. Your curiosity is our compass. Please hit, subscribe, spread the word and let's grow the circle of insight and community together. I'm Trisha Jameson signing off. Stay curious, keep thriving and keep smiling, and I'll catch you on the next episode.
