Eps 94: Why Most Spiritual Coaches Stay Broke And How to Finally Build A Business That Heals and Pays? With Mayumi Pachkoski

Are you a spiritual coach, reiki healer, lightworker, or wellness practitioner who’s quietly struggling behind the scenes?

You’re not alone.

In this powerful and honest episode of The Dimple Bindra Show, I sit down with Mayumi Pachkoski a Japanese-born holistic skincare expert and energy healer who built a thriving six-figure salon in the U.S to uncover the real reasons most spiritual entrepreneurs stay exhausted, underpaid, and unseen.

Together, we dive into the unspoken beliefs keeping women stuck in cycles of overgiving and undercharging... and how to finally break free.

💎 In this episode, you’ll learn:
 ✅ Why your spiritual gifts are worthy of wealth
 ✅ The subconscious blocks that make women feel guilty for charging
 ✅ How Mayumi turned 3 facials a month into a 6-figure healing business
 ✅ Real mindset shifts that helped both of us go from $30 sessions to high-ticket clients
 ✅ How to niche down based on your personal story and soul’s journey
 ✅ A practical tip to give back without staying broke

Whether you’re just starting or scaling your coaching business, this conversation will shift how you see your work and your worth.

💖 You are not just a healer.
 You are the medicine.
 And yes, you can be well-paid for the light you bring.

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Transcript

If you are a spiritual coach, a reiki practitioner, an energy healer or a light worker, maybe a breath facilitator or a yoga instructor, this episode is for you, because here's the uncomfortable truth we really don't talk enough about in our circles. Most spiritual entrepreneurs are exhausted, they're underpaid, and they quietly struggle behind the scenes while preaching alignment and abundance and high vibration. And guess what? I was one of those instructors and I know exactly the problem most women, especially women, that's what they face.

So I just want to let you know that you didn't choose this path because you wanted to be rich, right? But you chose it because you have walked through fire, and now you help others for their light. But somewhere along the way, you probably started believing that charging for your gifts was totally wrong, that being spiritual meant staying broke, staying humble, not asking for prices and not even raising your prices or doing it all for free. And now you're stuck. So doing deep healing work means that you are going to transform lives, but you can't afford to take a day off.

So today, we are having a conversation no one had with us in our trainings, which is why most spiritual coaches stay stuck and broke and how to finally build a business that heals and pays. Because the truth is that you don't have to choose between your soul and your success. You can get both. And we have an amazing woman. She's originally from Japan who embodies what it really means to blend soul with strategy. Her name is Mayumi Pachkoski, who is a holistic skincare expert and energy healer with over 20 years of experience in the US beauty industry. She has built a thriving six-figure salon by combining Eastern and Western healing practices. And now she's on a mission to help other energy healers like you, like me, and other spiritual entrepreneurs do the same. Through her mentorship, Mayumi empowers spiritual practitioners to amplify their impact, attract the aligned clients and turn their passion into sustainable soul-led success.

Welcome to the show, Mayumi.
 Thank you for having me, Dimple.
 I am excited to interview today, so I need to start with: Tell us about the beginning, like, what inspired you to step into this path as both a healer and a businesswoman?

Yes. So originally, I'm from Japan. And then I start to work actually airline industry first as a flight attendant. So after graduating from college, I moved to Taiwan because first employer was China Airlines, and I was based in Taiwan, Taipei. And then I worked in the next one was Continental. I went back to Japan, but now Continental merged with the United. So I traveled and then I met my husband. He was also a flight attendant and got married. And then we really start to contemplate it, both of us. What's the next path? It was a great career. We had lots of fun, but we wanted to have more.

So we decided to move to Maryland. My husband persuaded his goal. And around that time, I just moved here to, really sorry, thought I was supporting him to make his dream goal come true, but I start to ask myself what I want to do next. And then I chose, I want to empower. Most of the women around that time. And right now I have a main clients as well, around that time, just to empower women, making, making them feel beautiful. That's how I chose the beauty industry. But in the beauty industry, I thought that there is a little bit of a misconception in the people. They really like to just to beautify the outside a superficial area, but my salon, I wanted to create that balance of body, mind, and spirit.

So I really focused on my clients. And in the beginning, I even didn't know what the reiki was. What happened was, when I start doing the facial, my clients start to say, me, this is not the facial, you are healing people. And I'm like, what? Oh. And then people start to telling me that you should name your menu the Reiki facial. That was the beginning of a path to, then I, even I am a Japanese, I didn't know what the reiki was. I never heard of growing up in Japan, 20 years. So it's like, I was very skeptical. I thought that it was scam or fake. So first, Reiki class was kind of investigation that this, it is true. And I was really skeptical. And then attended. And then I admit, oh, OK, after I did the research, this is the real thing.

I never doubt about the energy healing, but I didn't know what the reiki was. But from there, I really start to learn more and then combined together, so people specifically searching my type of service start to come. And then slowly, really one person at a time, and then word of mouth, majority of the people start to come to my studio.
 Wow, that's amazing. So from airline industry to beauty industry, from industry to now you're actually helping spiritual entrepreneurs to grow their business.
 Yes.
 So why did you really choose this path where you felt like, OK, I'm already a beautician because you know you're a beautician, you're an aesthetician, right? You're doing facials and maybe one day when I come to Maryland, I'm gonna go and see you but like I directly facial from you.

So why did you choose to really help other entrepreneurs in their journey to make money?
 Yes, it's the exact point that you point out today. I start to notice the similarity of the patterns. Many people really struggle to accept the money. Yeah, yeah, first of all, this is a business, they need to recognize that, but somehow they don't like that garbage. And it's like, oh, money, oh, it's not about the money. But I always say, well, but at the end, the energy, you know, that money is a form of energy. It's the exchange. You cannot just give, give, give or receive, receive, receive needs to be reciprocal.

So your value needs to be exchanged with money. It's nothing wrong. When you are stopping that, then it's going to have the imbalance become. And then I saw so many talented fellow wellness practitioners that especially who are incorporating energy healing, more spirituality, somehow they think asking for money is that no noble thing. There is a spiritual correctness type of statement that they have to make or life they have to make. And I always tell, this is not a service. Yes, we serve people, but it's not like a monastery. We are not the preachers or monk. This is as a business.

If you don't want to accept the money, you can create a nonprofit. This is business, but anywhere. Somebody donates money. Somebody's paying you money. If you ask for the grant, that's the taxpayers' money, so everybody else is paying for you. So we, it's not avoidable. So why do you, you know, push so much? It's accepting it's much easier. And then I wanted to teach how I build, I don't have any guilt, and I will say, oh, this is my value. If you think that that's too expensive, maybe I'm not the right person for you.

And I don't have any guilt saying that because I, I did my work. And I took so much, you know, lessons and workshops and investment I have done. So I was just, wow, I can teach people how I build it and then they can be happy too, because they, they are kind of saying, I'm OK, but I can see through they are miserable. And then they are stuck in the broken record of pattern and unable to raise their vibration.

Wow, so you're basically saying exactly what most wellness coaches or spiritual coaches, you know, deal with, and I was one of them. And this is very real because I would charge so little for my one hour classes that I would get burned out and I had to teach and maybe my students, they already know this, but I was teaching Mayumi 80 classes a week just to make ends meet. Why? Because, I remember this. I used to charge $30 a session, $30 to teach yoga. And then I probably did this for like 6 years and then I remember my first co-founder at Instavital, my previous company, said, Dimple, keep doing this, you're going to get burned out. Yes, you're young, you do it, but later you will get burned out.

I look back and I'm like, I'm glad I listened to him, you know, so technically I understand this is a problem with most women and especially coaches, men or women, that they think if they have to do a healing work, abundance is not possible. I think that. So why? I mean, I know this because I was one of them. Many spiritual coaches, they feel the guilt, you know, or feel around charging for their work. Why do you think that pattern is so common in our community?

I don't know to say articulate just one thing, but I have noticed a few patterns. One of them is, it's a kind of a spirituality is entangled and then they compare themselves, work as like a Buddhist monk or Christianity priest, and then they are devoted for their work and then they are not doing for the monetary exchange. And I think they are trying to mimic that model. And they think they have to be that way. But I'm going to say this is a business. Nobody works for free. Everybody works and then get paid somehow as an exchange of value.

So you need to start accepting that what I'm doing is service, but also business. I need to earn money. That's the model of the business. People have the difficulty accepting this as a big business. That's the first thing. And the next one is, one time I have heard completely from the outside of this industry person, “Oh, those healing people heal us, they should not be charged.” That’s a noble work. They're not supposed to be, those people shouldn't be asking for money. And I said, “Oh, that's your belief system, not mine.”
 Exactly how we stop there, yes, how are we gonna pay our bills, right?

So I think they may have told by somebody else and then they didn't know how to tell their truth or couldn't reply the way professionally and then that stuck in their mind and somehow they are feeling guilty that maybe. That little small indentation, it may not be a big trauma, but lingering on, “Oh, I shouldn't be asking for money.” And then number 3 is upbringing. Maybe your family had to fight for money or didn't have enough. They were so jealous about the people who have abundance. And they hated it because they don't know how to create it. And that's their frustration, but somehow their frustration was pointed out to the people who has abundance.

So different misconception and then as you are growing. And the parents teaching you that way. “Oh, rich people, bad people, they are evil, they greed” and so forth. And then they somehow believed in that and then very difficult to get out from that realm of belief system.

And I also feel, yeah, so all these points are totally valid. One is the worthiness, you know, they don't feel worthy and can’t charge. One is mindset, right? And one is that their upbringing is just like conditioning parental. Just tells them that this is what, you know, especially for rich people, they start having these negative mindset towards them and they start projecting it at their work.

For me personally, it was my teacher. I remember, one of my teachers who later on was a cult teacher that I was following.

Oh, I listened to one of your podcasts.
Yes, he used to tell me, “Dimple, you know, we don't need money. We don't need money. We don't need our parents. We don't need our siblings, we don't need our friends. If you want to grow as a person in yoga and really receive enlightenment, you don't have to worry about money.” I'm like… and so that became my conditioning. I used to think, “Oh yeah, OK,” so I started living like Yogi. I would not, I wouldn’t care, you know, I wouldn’t care and I'm like, damn, I missed 9 years of my life under this cult teacher and now I understand and now I charge. Like I charged $5000 for 10 weeks of working with me. And I'm still be able to charge 10, you know, I'm totally OK.

I have clients that pay me. I've even went up to like $7500 for 10 weeks of working with me, and I'm like, damn, this is from that Dimple who charges $30 an hour to, and I'm like, what, really cheap and I think it was my conditioning. Thanks for pointing this out and I also just wanted to say like some of our audience, you know, coaches and spiritual people who—with this money part—is also because deep down they are not challenging their own beliefs. Challenging, right?

So I would love to know now from you, Mayumi, you have built a six-figure healing based salon. What were the top 2 or 3 mindset shifts or practices that helped you to get there?

Firstly, I already knew. I have to make it happen. I'm an immigrant. Yes, I came from Japan. And then when I moved to Maryland, I didn't have an immediate family from my side or friends. I didn't know anyone. I had a little few people that I knew from the attended the vocational school or something like that. And then I apparent this a little bit under this European institution. But I didn't have a real connection and so forth.

And we Japanese say, "Your butt’s on fire," meaning don't sit around. You are as if your butt’s on fire, you're gonna start to wake up and then start walking around or doing, taking action. So people say don't sit around, take action. So just take action and action. So I started going out the networking meeting, networking meeting, every one in the town that I can find, because people don't know me, said, "Oh, I opened up the business," but nobody knows—then how I can get the client?

So I start getting there and then I start to speak like what I do. And some of the network meeting wasn't for me. Pretty great for different business people, but I was really looking for more authentic, you know, connection can be made. And I found a very good group, the women's group, and then they are very honest. And then there are some healers are there. And then I start to grow the connection from there.

And also I volunteered. The small business owners going to do the event for the like a charity event for the community. I volunteer in that and then start, you know, not knowing people who are in the neighborhood. So I had to act, but I didn't have any skills. Still, I'm a low-tech person, so I didn't have my website, social network, no. So I literally just created the one person at a time, word of the mouth, and start building and building.

And my beginning was, I rent a room in a wellness salon. Monthly payment rent was $450. And my facial was costing $150. So I'm not even calculating for the product I have to buy to do the facial or anything, that scared me. But just to pay, in order to pay this rent monthly, I have to do 3 facials. That was my beginning of the goal. So three facial for this month, 3 facials for this month. How can I do the three facials?

And then I started going out, you know, that, that made a big difference. And then slowly, you know, American people really, really generous people and they love immigrants, their food, trying to make things happen. So there are lots of cheerleaders showed up like, "You have to go to see Mayumi. She's incredible. That she does the different type of facial. You have to go and you have to experience it." And then some of the people really became the marketing tool for me, like a walking marketer for me.

And then people start, you know, coming here. And then really, there were times that—hard times were, you know, yeah, I slept in the office overnight. That wasn't the one day. And sometimes in the winter, yes, there is a snow, then snow removal maybe be late, then I may not be able to go to the salon. So if I know that the night before it may snow—but my clients are near my salon, but I drive 45 minutes—so I didn't want to. Yes, but in the countryside, it's a very nice drive. It's not like a highway.

So I sleep at my salon and then prep for the next day, for the next day, you know, clients, because I needed that facial to pay my rent and then different things. Yes. So, I did my share, but I just didn't give up. So if somebody listening and then it's like, "Wow, you did it. Sounds so easy." I'm not that far away from it. I was probably below than anybody else. But I didn't have a—I have nothing to lose. I literally have nothing to lose. So I had the thick skin. Who cares? And then I just moved on one day at a time.

I love that big difference. And I think people like you who are resilient enough to move, to go rock bottom and then go sky high, they are the ones that sustain. They are the ones that are very good in their business. They are the ones that actually make it. Instead of people that just sit on their butt and think about, "Oh, it's not working." Oh they try one strategy, "Oh it's not working." It doesn't work that way. Even for me, I had to try over 1000 strategies before one thing works. You know, and if that one thing worked, OK, I kept on doing that. So thank you for sharing your—thank you for sharing how you made it.

What do you think is the biggest mistake that you see new or struggling healers making when trying to turn their passion into their business?
 Pricing. Pricing, yeah, pricing. My business coaching, I will—another thing is the branding. First, I'm going to go back to the branding. Everybody says, "Oh, what you do," it's not their brand. "Oh, I do, for instance, Reiki. I do shamanic healing. I do this," but you are more than that.

There are a variety of people do the same, but each one of us have a different resonance to the different audience. So what you are is the brand. So yeah, I understand, but that’s what you do. But what you really do is kind of the people don’t think through. So this, this, this—I learned so much tools. Wow, I have a client, like so many of workshop they have taken, but "This is what I do." But it’s like, wow, if you put all of this, people just get overwhelmed.

We have to define that almost like a niche, what you do. And then start to branch out the different things. So what do you do, you know, more, you know, best? What is your strongest thing that—"Oh, if I do this healing, this is my strength and my specialty"? What is it? And I'm going there. So that’s one of the missing points too many people.

And then second is—I just wanna like just kind of say, OK, so the first one is branding, which means you're trying to say you have to niche down. If you're doing 2 things, if you're doing 2 things you have to niche down to like one or two core things that you really do. Because I think coaches also have this problem. They think they should be offering 20 different services, whereas they should only offer one service and then add little things to their offering, right? So you're saying niche it down even if—don’t be so general, be specific.

Yes, that’s correct.

Awesome. So branding is the first one, and yes, you're right about pricing. This is mostly what women or healers really need to focus on. So please tell us about what can they do with pricing?

Yes. First, I think they have better find the coaches, business coaches that really understand that this energy healing industry. I do. So I take a look at the pricing and majority of the people, price is way below. And then I give them their pricing. You have to be minimum this, da, da, da, da. And they're the—"Really?" I said yes.

You better take a high road because people trying to compete. "I'm cheaper." "I'm not experienced enough yet." Even some of the people have a lot of experience, but they are too humble. If they are really, really beginner, that's a little bit different, but many of them are already practicing for years, then I said, would you let me know, calculate all the workshop you attended and how much you have invested so far, including the traveling cost and then everything. And just think about it—how much you put on—and then this is, are you OK just asking for this money?

That really let them think like, "That is true." And then when I, yes, give them your minimum price should be this, then almost like a wow, deep down, I thought that that's OK, but somebody else is validating and then saying this is a minimum. And then saying this price.

And then I had the one client I'm working now. I talked about her value. She start to cry because she had unbelievable expertise, like yoga and nutrition and she does qigong, Tai Chi, every single aspect, she studied in depth. And she can deliver so many different ways of healing to the client. And then I said, "No, that's not who you are. You can run like this." And then she started to cry, "Thank you." And then she started to cry.

And then after that, she made OK for herself. That really shifted her mindset. She started talking with friends, colleagues, and then they're like, "Yeah, that's right. You should be." So she's more confident now and then she's not hesitant to, you know, speak her truth. "Yes, this is my value and then this is my worth. So this is my price." So that's a great, you know, way to—somebody will say that for you—probably you need somebody else to let you know this is your worth, and then you can shift because it's very, very difficult to figure out by yourself.

I love that because as a business coach you're basically bringing like a bird's eye view to your clients who are spiritual coaches because they just don't see their worth. And I love what you said about look at how many trainings you have done. Look at how much certifications you have done. Look at how many hours of work and experience you have. Are you still gonna charge this little, this little money? It doesn't make sense, right?

So I love how you help them see how much they've invested outwards in their training versus what they're charging. So this is a great piece of advice. I want to ask you because we still have 15 minutes left. How can spiritual entrepreneurs really start attracting more aligned clients without burning out?

For example, if you can give us an example on this client who cried, who was like, "Mayumi, finally I get this," what did she do differently? And did she really align to her clients and attract those kinds of clients with high pricing?

Yes, we are still, you know, we are still in the beginning of the stage of working. But, she initially said that when I talked, that we started to talk about the pricing, she said, "But Mayumi, then some of the people, potential clients may not be able to afford this. We, you know, we serve." So I said, yes, if you are nonprofit.

But you established that—she claimed that now she has a business and it's LLC. So it's like, "Wow, good." And it's like you have to earn money, you have to pay taxes. So you have to earn money. And then I said, with your expertise, you really can do the private coaching who are affluent, that you can cater, that with your need, "I can customize these type of things for you, just for you." And that’s what I want you to do.

And then, do you know what? When you claim it and then you start getting that client, you have abundance. Then why don't you do the free event for those clients that they may not be able to pay and then give that? That’s much faster. And then it's like you can do twice a year.

And that really, I was like, "Oh, that’s great." So it’s—yeah, you know, very hesitant to accepting money. But once you accept it, it's very easy. You know, you can give back. It's not like you have to hold everything. You can start to give it back. So it's really, really much enjoyable fulfillment that you will feel by earning more, because you can help others more.

And I think there is another aspect to this also. Women have been oppressed and silenced, right, for so many centuries, and they always believed that the man has to earn the money. So some part of the consciousness is not like—the pattern has not changed. They still believe. They need to charge less, they need to make less. And I think it's also because deep down subconsciously they’re shaming themselves when it comes to money.

And we can even just shift that, and I love what you said: Go ahead and charge higher clients. And if you want to do free stuff for those women who cannot afford your services, go do free events. You know, that is a great tip. I think our audience will love this tip—like go ahead, go ahead and really claim your worth.

And you know, when I moved from my $30 session to $5000 session, $5000 for my program. After I started charging $5000, I started charging $6500, then I started charging $7500. I started telling myself—I said, "50,000 is easier than 5000." That was just my mental shift. And I would say, "50,000 is easier than 5000," and then I will get a corporate client—$50,000. I'm like, "What?" Because I claimed it, I got it.

Good for you.
 And I think, I think this is what women need to hear. So thank you for bringing this up. I have two more questions for you.

What’s your take on healers that want to niche down, right, who are niching down on their topics, their service? Is it basically anything that can help them to come out of their beliefs? If you can just basically help in niching—like what can they do to niche down their service? How do you really know, "This is what I do?"

Yes, yes. A niche is not only your niche, but also there needs to be a need that potential client needs to be existing. So I always ask, in the past, just to think through what kind of healing you have done. There should be a pattern. Maybe there are same type of theme or traits they have.

For instance, everyone—men or women—but both of this person’s clients have majority of them have the mother-related issue, trauma issue. Then that could be your niche, because you have done it, and then you had the, you know, success with it. So that can be your niche.

And I had the very beginning, beginner of the client I’m working now. This person had the chronic fatigue. He couldn’t even make a 5-minute conversation. After the 5-minute conversation, he's done for the day. But now with the quantum touch energy healing, he is doing much better and almost like a regular person. And so he wants to become an energy healer and he's like, "I don’t have anybody yet. What’s gonna be my niche?"

So what is your story? I asked, what is your story to get into this healing? So that could be the niche—because you healed yourself, and then you have that story. So somebody like you looking for and researching it. And your experience you've done to the others—it doesn’t matter. You've done it to yourself. "I'm in the same situation like you were before. How can I get better?" And then that person will contact you.

So that’s the two things that I always ask my client.
 I love that. You're basically niching down to whoever you are, what's your story—that should be your niche. And I feel I do the same. Whatever is my story, I help those clients only because they somehow get attracted because I'm just a little ahead of them, you know.

I feel this is great. If women can really focus on what were their struggles, how did they come out of it, and what did they do to come out of it—and show it to the world—and that is your niche.
 Yes, because you really fully understand those people’s psyche too.
 Yeah, technically you are your niche. You know exactly your niche.

Great. Last question, Mayumi—for the coach or healer who's listening right now and feeling like stuck or broke and unsure—what's one thing you tell her to help her raise her vibration or her mental state?

OK. It depends on that person. So I cannot think of—if that person comes to book my transformational sessions, 30 minutes for free, I can discuss that and then maybe I can do the quick hypnotherapy type of session with it.

I got a guy the other day. He wasn’t into the coaching business yet, but he was very curious. He saw the different podcast and curious about the quantum touch that I teach, and then he contacted me. And I did a quick session for him and then he was really, really grateful. And then now he's going to fly in and take a workshop with me in July.

So that 30-minute session is going to be great. Other than that, I just want to say—money is just the energy. It's exchangeable energy that everybody appreciates and then can be changed into the different shapes. Could be a house or could be a food or anything. This is the energy. So money is not the paper—looks like a paper—but for everybody, it's the universal language of the energy to be exchanged to anything. So just start accepting it.

There is no bad thing having money. Really, the more you can help others more, and you meet more greater people that you never meet before. You can go to the places you’ve never been before and you really can enjoy this life.

Awesome. So Mayumi, you talked about the 30-minute free session. I'm definitely gonna add it to the show notes so that audience can take the free session from you. And it was wonderful having you on our show. Where can our people find you?

Yes, my website: askmayumi.com. So A-S-K-M-A-Y-U-M-I.com.

We are going to add it to the show notes. So if you don't, you're not 100%, yeah. Or if you just, you know, if you don't like—that’s still a little bit, you know, too urgent—then there is a PDF that you can download. That's “5 Things That Energy Healers Can Do: How to Build Their Credibility.”

Awesome. So Mayumi is offering you two different things, guys. Make sure you do contact her. Go to askmayumi.com. I'm gonna add it to the show notes. And she also is offering a 30-minute session as well as a PDF if you are an energy coach or if you are a spiritual coach and you really want to grow your business and take it to 6 figures.

Thank you so much for being on our show. It was wonderful having you.
 And to all of our listeners—always remember: Metamorphosis, not medication. Namaste.

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 Bye.