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101: What Real Money Coaching Sounds Like: Budgeting, Curveballs, and Money Mindset

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In today’s episode, I’m doing something a little different. I’m sitting down with Jenna for a real, unfiltered coaching conversation about the money struggles so many women face but don’t always talk about out loud.

We talk about how to budget without feeling restricted, what to do when unexpected expenses hit, and why money stress is often about so much more than the numbers. This conversation gets into the real emotions behind spending, debt payoff, fear, freedom, family, and learning how to trust yourself with money.

If you’ve ever felt like you know what to do with your money but still struggle to actually feel calm and confident doing it, this episode is for you.

Jenna's podcast: How One Mom Paid off $42,000 of Debt in Just 12 Months!


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Why This Format Is Different

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I probably should do an introduction. Let me just script it out really quick. Um, yeah, I mean we can edit this out too. Okay. Today's episode is going to look a little bit different. Instead of me teaching you a new topic, I'm going to bring on one of my teammates in the business, and we're going to be talking about real money struggles that she's been having or we've seen within our members. And I'm going to coach her through real life situations. And the reason I'm doing this is because I want you to see what real coaching looks like. I want you to hear the real questions, see the real struggles, and how we can work through them together. My teammate is going to be vulnerable and share things that she struggled with: budgeting, when life throws curveballs at you, getting your grocery spending under control, money mindset stuff, and more. And I'm going to ask her questions to help her see what's really going on and what she needs to shift. So if you've ever wondered what real life coaching actually looks like, or if you're dealing with similar struggles, this episode is for you. Stay tuned. Welcome back to the Money Mom Podcast. I am your host and just a second. I want to say something like I am your host and interviewee today. Okay.

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Yeah.

Meet Jenna And Her Progress

SPEAKER_01

Welcome back to the Money Mom Podcast. I am Rachel Koons, your host and also interviewee today on the podcast, because we're doing something a little different. I am bringing on one of my team members, Jenna Medina, who has actually been on the podcast before. And her episode is one of our most downloaded episodes and one of our most watched YouTube videos on our channel. So I'm so excited to welcome Jenna back on the podcast. Thanks for coming today, Jenna. Welcome. Hi everybody. Thank you. Jenna is a teammate in the business. She does coaching within the Money Mom Club. And she also helps me with a lot of stuff on the back end. She knows what we're doing. She knows how we're moving through the structure of the Money Mom Club. And she also has her own money journey. We're not really going to get into that journey today because you can go listen to that podcast. Do you remember what podcast number that was, Jenna? I can't remember either. I can drop it in the description below. Thank you. She also edits the podcast and uploads it. So she knows all of that. We'll put the we'll put the link to that podcast. But Jenna, do you want to give us like a quick rundown of of your story and and you know the TLDR of that other episode?

SPEAKER_00

I love that. I use that quite often in Chat GPT. I'm like, that's still too long. Go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So long story short, you know, we lived like everybody else that we just kept spending money and didn't really like face the facts of where we were at. And finally in September of 2024, I had just, I'd had enough and we sat down and finally started budgeting. And since then, which has been like 16 months, we've paid off over $45,000 worth of debt, like paid off, gone, and paid down is like $66,000. And we're still going. We're hoping to pay off my husband's car by the end of this May. And then we're going to move on to a student loan that apparently he has.

SPEAKER_01

Those things kind of you always think you're getting over one mountain and then there's another mountain, right? That's always how it goes.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Um, okay, so yeah, so definitely go listen to that episode. Today's episode is gonna be a little different than what we talked about before. But really, what happened was Jen and I both got on a call and we both had our makeup done and we had

Setting Up An Unscripted Coaching

SPEAKER_01

gotten ready for the day, and we were like, how do we utilize this time? We we look good. Let's let's do something with this. Can we record something for the membership? No, let's do a podcast episode. Okay, what should we do for this podcast episode? So this is where this is birthing from. It is it is not rehearsed. We are just jumping in. What we decided we wanted to do today was Jenna could ask me questions or things that she's been struggling with or she's seen in other members as well. And then I can kind of work through the coaching on how I would coach someone through that in real time. So that's what we want to do for this episode. I think you guys are gonna love it. And I think this is gonna be a really authentic, real conversation that we can have about real life situations, right? Because we can we can give you rote transcripts all day long, but if we don't work you through these in real time, then transformation doesn't happen. So let's dive into it. I hope she's ready. I'm in the I'm the one in the hot seat now. Okay, I'm ready. My palms are a little sweaty, but I think I can handle it.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, good. Mine too.

The Budget Without Restriction Question

SPEAKER_00

So let's start money-wise. So, how do you budget without feeling like you're restricting yourself or always saying no? Like, I have our budget down to a T that it's like, okay, there's a miscellaneous line, there's a fun money line, but then something comes up and I'm like, oh, we we can't do that during February vacation. Like, what how else can we shift it? And it just, you know, we all know what our money goal is, but it just fades away after a while that you're like, okay, great. We're, you know, we're trying to save to go on a vacation. Can't can't I go to the movies this week? So how do you work through that?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and I think that's the way that most budgeting systems set you up to fail, right? Because they tell you that there's these hard lines that I can only spend this amount on this budget, and that's the amount I have to spend. And then if I don't hit that number, then I've failed, right? And our human brain wants to create these black and white lines, especially with money, so that we can stay inside the boundaries and never screw up. And I think that you're setting yourself up to fail if you approach your money in that way. So, my question for you is what would happen if you spent $30 to take your family to the movie over ski week or vacation? What would what would that look like? What would the alternative look like?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, no one's gonna die. We're fine because we do have extra money allotted in that account. And it would be fun. It would finally be like, oh, we got to go do something. We're all outside, like it would, it would finally feel better.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And and what would happen if that, if that turned into every week, every two weeks, you were doing something like that, where you were treating yourself to go experience something new.

SPEAKER_00

So here, as you said it, it brought up emotions of fear of it getting out of control. I have, I am, am very much learning that um I have an addictive personality and I'm pretty sure I have ADHD as a 44-year-old. So now I'm like, All good. Oh, oh, okay.

Fear Of Slippery Slope Spending

SPEAKER_00

Now I'm like, now I get it. Um, what it's bringing up is, you know, like I had reduced sugar in my diet, and the second I brought it back in, it's I'm like a fiend. Or, you know, I bought something for myself the other day on TikTok shop, and now I'm like, oh, I could go buy a new lipstick. Like I very much can feel the wheels falling off the car very quickly.

SPEAKER_01

So it's maybe not necessarily that you're afraid to go spend some money on yourself. It's that you're afraid that it's a slippery slope. And now we've gotten into ourselves, we've realized that maybe there's all or none thinking here. I can either enjoy life or I can not and save everything. And I I can eat I can only have one or the other.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

So what you don't what you need not necessarily is a budget. You need to be able to trust yourself with money. You need to be able to trust that you can spend it when you want and not when you don't want. And that's where we bring in conscious awareness to our spending. So every decision that you make is based off of value-based spending, where you're looking and saying, is this what we want? Right? What are you what are your values with money? Like what do you what like specifically for you, what would you say these are the things that I want for my life, for my money, all of those things?

SPEAKER_00

Um, good foods. Um you know, we pay for my son to go to school. So continuing to have that option of like, if he, you know, when he goes to high school, can we afford to pay for the high schools that are near here? Um expensive.

SPEAKER_01

And what does that give you? What does sending your kid to that school, what does that give you? What's deeper than that?

SPEAKER_00

Um just not a better education. It's, you know, the if he went to the school we're zoned in, it's scary. It's big, it's there's a lot of fights, there's a lot of, you know, I'm worried about him getting lost. So it's it's helping him on his journey to become like to do the things he wants to do instead of just being in, you know, with 400 other kids and just being like, oh, okay, well, today we're in social studies.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, take me, take me even deeper than that in a value-based. So we're still up in like the higher levels. What can we go deeper than that? What is more important than your son not going to a dangerous school, going to a better school? What what would you say is more important than that to you?

SPEAKER_00

Like why I pay for his tuition, you're saying?

SPEAKER_01

Or why is his schooling important to you? Maybe I'm not asking the right question. Would you say that he is important to you? His potential, his opportunity. And would you say even deeper than that is family?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Like family is a deep value that you have.

SPEAKER_00

Yep.

SPEAKER_01

Opportunity.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So would you say that that's probably where this is stemming from? It's not like I just want my son to get a good education. It's like, no, I love my son. Yeah. Period. And I want the best for him. Okay, perfect. That's a beautiful value. And that's a very typical value that people have is family. Yeah. Time together, experiences, potential of where we want them to be. Okay. What else? What other things do you value?

SPEAKER_00

Just having those adventures, you know, like we love traditions. So we love being able to go to our favorite beach and stay nearby and go get the ice cream there. And, you know, it's we skipped it last summer because of I was like, you know, this money that we spend on that is like a quarter of what we owe on a credit card. And it was, it was really hard

Defining Core Values: Family And Peace

SPEAKER_00

for all of us. And so we love those traditions. We love to just be able to go out and go get ice cream.

SPEAKER_01

Memories, experiences, family. So we're going back to family. And that's another family's. Again, that's not the it's not a bad value. I would say it's actually probably one of the most important ones. Um, is there anything else? If you if you looked at your life in 30 years, what do you hope that you have at that time? Peace.

SPEAKER_00

And what that means for me is I don't want a busy schedule. I don't want to be crazy. I don't want to be working so much that we're never home and we're always at these parties, you know, birthday parties and this and that. And like, I don't want that. I love the peace and calmness that we've created in our home. And I want that to keep going without having to feel like I do have to work in order to, you know, um, you know, instead of this house that we stayed in now, 30 years from now, maybe we stay at the one that we're always looking at that's across the street from the beach. Like I want to be able to have that um ease of, yeah, we can do it.

SPEAKER_01

If you were to put that into one word, what would that be? What would that one word be to describe that?

SPEAKER_00

Peace is the one that always comes up.

SPEAKER_01

So peace, yep, family. Yep. Okay, so if those are the the things that we are searching for, then we're gonna call that in and hold holding here because they're coming full circle. So now we can say when we look at our spending, when we look at our values, are the sp is the spending in line with the value system? So if my value system is peace, which we kind of equate to like, I would also say freedom. Like that was also a word that popped up for me when you were explaining that is like freedom, which would mean no debt, would mean being financially secure, and family. So you kind of, and and a lot of time these two hit with each other, right? Because family requires me to have experiences together, to send my son to a more expensive school. So expense, right? It's more expense. And then you have the the money situation where if I'm going to have peace, if I want to have freedom, then I can't spend the money. So you see how those are running into each other for you? Yeah. And and I I think this is very, and I think our listeners will be like, yes, I could see how that happens. So what we have to do is we have to create a game plan where you can have your cake and you can eat it too, right? And then that's what everybody wants. So we have to look at either the family experiences have to either cost less money, we have to spend less money on those things, or we have to be able to increase the amount of money coming in so that we can increase the peace, the freedom, so that we can have both. Yep. You cannot restrict, restrict, restrict, and have the experiences that you want, the the things that are very important to you. You the spending more money on his school, the the maybe the special vacation that you took last summer, but also be able to pay off all the debt that you want to pay off. So how and and I believe, I fully believe that the answer is within you. I'm as a coach, can't give you the answers to your life, right? Because I don't know what your situation looks like

Aligning Spending With Values

SPEAKER_01

100%. But what I can do is I can help you get there through conscious realization of these things. So if you were to ask yourself right now, what does that look like? How do I have both of these things? What would the answer be for you?

SPEAKER_00

I know for me, it is truly that I need to actually work more, um, or not necessarily work more, but take my skills and bring in more income with those skills in a contained manner.

SPEAKER_01

So what does that mean?

SPEAKER_00

Um currently, right now, I'm working with Chat GPT and um it's helping me to navigate because I'm a professional photographer. I own my own studio, but my business partner and I don't want to be there so much that we hate our job. So it's we work part-time hours, but that is our full-time job. So I'm actually creating a workshop on the side of how to teach new photographers how to use their camera.

SPEAKER_01

Beautiful.

SPEAKER_00

So it's I'm setting the date of when the zoom is, I'm creating all the things, and it's something I do on my time and can bring in that extra income. So it's it's small things like that of building in my pockets of time the knowledge that I have.

SPEAKER_01

Beautiful. And that's the answer for you, right? And that might not be the answer for somebody that's listening, but that's where I'm going to challenge you, as the listener, as Jenna, to sit with yourself, to learn the logistics of the money that you need to. You need to know the numbers. Jenna's already done that work. Jenna's already budgeted, she's already figured out the numbers. But we need to be able to sit with ourselves and really have a game plan for the future of like, what is the answer? And you cannot create a solution to a problem unless you know what the problem actually is. I'm gonna say that again because I don't know if that will land for our listeners. You cannot create a solution to a problem that doesn't exist in your brain yet. We have to create a tangible problem. So saying, I am in debt isn't necessarily creating a full picture of the problem. We need to

Earning More To Fund What Matters

SPEAKER_01

say, why are you in debt? What is the actual tangible thing that's going on here? Because then we can start to create the solution to that. Jenna just spent 10 minutes at the beginning of this episode creating the problem, creating the tangible, this is what I'm struggling with. Okay, now that we've figured that out, then we can start to create the solution, but we can't create a solution from a problem that doesn't exist in our brains yet. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. So that is that is my 15, 20 minute answer to that one question. Does that feel like you feel like you have more clarity on it?

SPEAKER_00

I don't remember what the question was we started with.

SPEAKER_01

The question was how do we spend money on things that yeah? So that was the original question. Do you feel like you have clarity on what this solution is for you? I think so. I think so. You can always go listen to the episode again. Exactly. Right. The clarity, clarity doesn't come like one shot of like, oh, I get it. It's like, no, I know the next step. Yep, the next right thing. What's the next step that I need to take? Then once you get to that higher level awareness, that higher level consciousness, then you can go back to the problem and say, okay, do I have the same problem or has the problem shifted? And then once the problem shifts, because you guess what? Your whole life is going to be full of problems. Spoiler alert. Questions, problems are not you. It's problems. We find the solution. Then another problem pubs picks up. Then we find the next solution. But that's why we're resilient. And that's why we are always evolving and growing and learning more. We're on a journey, all of us together. Yeah. Okay, beautiful. Okay, so in any other I know there's more questions. Is there any other questions? Um, let's see here.

SPEAKER_00

How do you handle budget curveballs? Say, you know, we're doing the Dave Ramsey snowball method. So we've gotten rid of all credit cards. We have no credit card debt. Uh, we may have some credit cards open because I just was fearful to close them, but I don't know that for certain. So, what happens if um something happens on your car and you have a big bill that you have to pay for?

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Want to change the question of if to when. How does that feel in your body, Jenna? I expectations are important, right? We have to set expectations in our life.

Name The Real Problem Before Solving

SPEAKER_01

It's not a matter of if, it's a matter of when. Money curveballs are going to come at you. It's, you know, we we need to set that expectation. Does I'm and to be honest, I know Dave Ramsey's approach. I also have questions about what that exactly looks like. Are you also creating an emergency fund?

SPEAKER_00

I have the $1,000.

SPEAKER_01

$1,000 in the emergency fund. I am a huge proponent that if you are trying to uh how do I say this the right way? Money chaos happens when we didn't have a plan beforehand. So once a problem, once an unexpected bill comes in the mail, you're not SOL, but unfortunately, it's harder to solve that solution, create the solution and if we didn't plan for that beforehand. Does that make sense? I don't think I said that 100% how it wanted, how it worked out in my brain. But basically, if we can expect the unexpected and we create cushions for ourselves before the $5,000 expense comes in, will the $5,000 expense feel as heavy as it would? Right. So that's why I'm and that's why I'm so passionate about the the work that we do now is it's like if your money situation feels good right now, do everything you possibly can to set you up for ex success when those hard things come. Okay. So that's my first thing I want to say for that. Now, that doesn't help somebody who gets an unexpected bill and they didn't plan. And then it's like, great, now what do I do? What's the What's the next solution? The first thing I think that's really important when these challenging times come and when unexpected things happen in your life is to first create calm. What happens in your body specifically to you? What happens in your body when something like that happens?

SPEAKER_00

I get so mad and so frustrated and like I spiral.

SPEAKER_01

What does that look like?

SPEAKER_00

I'm you know short with my family. I'm I'm frustrated. I feel I'm instantly trying to solve the problem in my head. Like, okay, so if I pull money from here and I pull money from here, and then I put money and we don't do this and we don't do that. Okay, we can get

When Curveballs Happen, Not If

SPEAKER_00

this part of it.

SPEAKER_01

And where do you feel that in the body, like specifically?

SPEAKER_00

My chest, my stomach, my heart.

SPEAKER_01

And it and it and does feeling the way that that feels, thinking through the problem as much as you can, does it create the solution for you? No, it just makes it worse. Right. So first thing we need to do is to address the the body, what's happening in the body. Because if you go to the s if you go to the problem with that, carrying all of that pent-up emotion, that pent-up energy, are you going to be able to think clearly about the solution? No.

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No.

SPEAKER_01

So my first thing is if something like that does happen, address the body first. You know, do some deep breathing. Stop, stop thinking about the solution. Stop thinking about the problem and address the body. Go for a walk. Take time for yourself, really calm the body first. And then we can't create a solution from a problem that we haven't don't have, right? So we have to create a concrete problem. And that requires you sitting down and mapping out okay, this is how much money is in the bank account. This is how much money the bill

Calm The Body To Solve Money Stress

SPEAKER_01

is, and actually looking at the numbers. So can you give me an experience? And you don't have to be specific, but I think we've all had these experiences where you're like the oh shit moments, right? Oh yeah. Can you give me one of those experiences?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, even on a small scale, you know, we got our excise tax bill for our cars, and I was like, oh yeah, that's in January or that's in March. And it was just like a half, like expletive. It was past oh shit. Yeah. And it was small. I mean, one of them's only $100 and one of them's $88, but still like planning ahead, it was already that month was going to be a little wonky with different things that only happen on certain months. And then that just was like, ugh, okay. And last year I had pre-saved a little bit each month for it and it felt fine. And now this year it felt it made me feel guilty that I hadn't pre-saved for something again, something so small. It's a hundred dollars. Yeah. But it was the guilt fell on me by myself that um I didn't pre-plan for it.

SPEAKER_01

And then you start telling yourself what? What do you tell yourself in those moments?

SPEAKER_00

I'm bad at budgeting, I'm doing a job, um, we don't make enough money. Um, then I start getting scared of other months of, well, oh yeah, this happens in April. Well, how am I gonna save for that? And this is coming in September, and how am I gonna save for that?

SPEAKER_01

So you created stories around what was actually happening. Instead of actually just saying, this is the situation, you created beliefs about the situation, meaning behind what was actually happening. And that isn't constructive, right? It's not and but but the truth is you're you and you can't realize that you're doing that unless you bring it to consciousness, unless you tell yourself, I am creating ideas about what is happening. So here's an example for me. We I had a this this and this happened last year. It's

Replace Doom Stories With Evidence

SPEAKER_01

freaking annoying that it happened again this year. I had a really big expense in my business in January. It happened, you know, I invest in a coaching program. It's a big expense that happens. And and last year the bank accounts were negative than the credit cards. And guess what happened this year? The same freaking thing happened. And I will tell you, it's the exact same experience that I had: the heart, the head, the like tenseness in the body. But I'm so proud of myself because last year it took me like weeks to pull myself out of that sick feeling of like, what am I gonna do? And this year, it was like, I've done this before. And guess what happened last time this happened? I didn't, my business didn't fail. I didn't get in credit card debt, I didn't have to pay insurance the high interest rate. I was able to pay off every credit card on time. I figured it out. So, what did I tell myself this time? I figured it out before I can do it again. And I think that's what's so that happens so many with so many people is we go to doomsday, we think the ex the worst thing is going to happen instead of saying, I have figured out my money in the past. It hasn't been rainbows and butterflies. It's not perfect. I'm not, you know, not everything is exactly how I want it to be, but I am stable. I supply everything that I need for my family. We live in a house. You know, you have all of your basic needs taken care of and go to that place. Go to where I am powerful and I can do this because I've done it before. How does that feel for you? Annoying. No, I'm just getting it.

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Great.

SPEAKER_00

No, I know it's you know, it's funny you said that because I did it the other day. It was, I think I was talking to my therapist, and I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, but we have a home and we have like two cars, and tomorrow I'm going to pick up groceries. And, you know, um, we're going snow tubing on Sunday. Like, it's okay.

Gratitude, Journaling, And Practice

SPEAKER_00

I've made it this far that we've budgeted and we've paid off things, and things have come up, and we've still paid off things. Like, it's gonna be okay. But it's um, I struggle with believing it. Um, it takes me a while to keep telling my or to even get myself to that point of like saying it out loud and then being like, okay, it's gonna be okay. So it's it's a struggle to get myself there a lot of times. But when I can, you're totally right. You see how strong you are in the things you've already done.

SPEAKER_01

Well, and you brought up a really good point, which I should have hit on earlier, is that gratitude is the highest level of energy, right? So, and I don't want it to be inauthentic gratitude, like what you're saying. Like, sometimes it's hard for me to get there, but the faster we can get there, the more we can jump to that place of like, okay, step back. Yes, this is a problem that I'm going to create the solution to, but right now it feels really heavy, and right now it it really sucks. And we're not like toxic positivity here, right? Like you can address something and feel really sad about it. But then stepping back and say, I'm gonna leave that on the table, and then I'm gonna come back to, you know, what do I have? What am I grateful for right now? And I actually think the best thing we can do is sit with the thought for as long as we possibly can, vocalize it outside, even if you don't believe it. And that's why, you know, people say like these mantras that people will say in the mirror every day. It's like, you know, that doesn't work. It doesn't work. Yeah, because you like you didn't believe long term and continue to do it, and you have to practice it. It has to be a continual thing before the mind can think it, but the body doesn't register that. Yeah, so practice, like saying it out loud. I actually think writing down is more powerful than saying it out loud. Journaling, writing down you feel stupid saying it out loud. Yes, exactly. And it and it has to, it has to feel it feels inauthentic. Yes, writing it down, you can really like journaling is one of the most powerful exercises, and it's something that's so like you don't have to pay for a therapist to be able to journal, right? You don't have to pay hundreds of dollars for a session. You like just sit down and journal and and write down the things you're thankful for, flush out the ideas. That's really, really, really helpful when you're when you're dealing with something like that. So I don't know. Did we even answer this question? But I I hope, I hope what you're I hope when you're listening to this is it's like it's not a one size fits all approach to any money problem that we have. And and it's not numbers. It's never numbers,

Money As Energy And Embodiment

SPEAKER_01

right? Like, did we once talk about, I mean, we talked about the amount of the bill, but we never talked about, well, how much money did you have in bank account? And then how did you end up paying it off? It was it was an energetics thing that we're dealing with most, mostly. It's it's feeling how to show up for your money in the the most calm, the most highest level of consciousness that we possibly can. That's gonna allow you to pay off the the bills that you have that come in. How does that feel for you?

SPEAKER_00

It's it's still like I know it. I money is energy, it flows. Like it's it's literally like little particles right now. Somebody just got paid, somebody just got a bill, somebody just got like it's energy, and it's really hard still for me to know that money flows in and it flows out, like that it will come back. Still really hard for me to get through that.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that's something if it's if it's if you feel stuck in that, that's something you should journal about.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So flush out those ideas again. Uh like I I want to reiterate this as a coach, I'm not here to tell you. I'm not, I'm not a consultant, I'm not a therapist, I'm not someone that can tell you exactly what the solution is. What I'm here to do is I'm here to pull it out of you. I'm here to help you find the solution because I believe that the solution is within yourself. Like you know what you need to do. We just have to find it. We have to write, ask the right questions to get the right solutions. Um, so I would, I would, I would go tell you to go, yeah, journal that out and figure it out. And it's not something that's gonna just, again, it's not gonna magically like ping, wave a wine. Jenna's Jenna now believes that money flows out of her and flows back in. It's a journey. But your attention, where your attention lies, that's what's the most important. So put attention into it, put awareness into it, and it'll start to unfold. You'll start to slowly pick apart the onion to then get the deeper, the deeper meanings behind it. So I'm excited for you to do that. Because

Be Before You Do

SPEAKER_01

it is a hard, like you can say all day, you can say all day, I believe in abundance. Money is abundant. Yes. But if you don't embody that, if it doesn't actually sit with you correctly, it's not gonna actually do anything.

SPEAKER_00

Right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Take time. I mean, I actually am a huge um believer in sitting in silence, just like stopping the world for a second and and sitting with yourself and letting, you know, the thoughts flow and letting whatever comes to you come to you, because then you can start to become. So often we want to do, we're so afraid of being. Yeah. Yeah. So being who you want to be first, because then the actions will fall into place afterwards. This is we I know you have more questions, but this episode is going so long. We said beforehand we were like, oh, maybe 20 minutes.

Community Support And Next Steps

SPEAKER_01

And now we're like, oh, shoot, we're almost at an hour. If you want a part two, maybe, maybe you gotta let us know. If you want a part two, we can come on and do more questions. This is a really fun format. I like it because it gives me an opportunity to really kind of pick apart your brain and see, like, you know, we should do this more. Yeah, let's do it. I'd love that. I'd love that. Awesome. Okay, so anything else that from what we talked about, anything else that's coming up for you? Do you know how? Oh, sorry, I should let you answer that question before I ask you another question.

SPEAKER_00

Um, no, it's just working on myself. Gosh dang it. So annoying.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and that's something that's really hard as a mom, right? You know, you're working, you're working two jobs. You work for me, you work for your business. Yep, you got a child to care for, you, you know, you got a family to worry about. It's a lot. And and then we also say, yeah, become the best person you can possibly become. Work through these money blocks, work through these belief systems. It's a lot. Yeah. And I don't, I don't know if I have any answer to that. Other than I get it. I get it. We're all in this together. And that's this community is so powerful, right? Because of that.

SPEAKER_00

It's it's amazing. People you don't even know are up, are lifting you up and cheering you on. And you know, I I've seen people go on and been like, ah, I had a really hard month, and uh, we, you know, um, we were over budget, and I have been doing really good. And the comments that start pouring out from other people and how they're like, you're doing great. Like and it could be that they saw, you know, they saw them post a win here and then this kind of down moment here, and just the uplifting, it's just it's wild.

SPEAKER_01

Super powerful. Yeah, super powerful. Yeah, I know. One of those posts almost brought me to tears. We had a post this last week of a mom who was like, I need help. I'm really struggling, you know. Did you see that?

SPEAKER_00

And uh I I started to, and then I was like, I don't have time to get into this. It was long.

SPEAKER_01

It was long, yeah. But it was, it was more just like, this is what I'm up against, and this is what I'm struggling with. And again, like, yeah, the comments that came in, the people that were like, you know, and we can't we can't fix this the situation, but we can be here for you and hold space for you in that moment. Um, it's a beautiful thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

And possibly provide a different outlook or or you know, solution for them that maybe they hadn't thought of. That also they're like, oh my god, yes, I just need, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Totally, totally super cool. Okay. Well, thank you, Jenna. I'm glad you did your makeup today so we could record this podcast. It doesn't happen every day, but when it does, it's like I better get on a camera.

SPEAKER_00

No, I gotta do something with it. I gotta go to Casco or something.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man, it's like you're a new woman. Okay, well, that's all we have for you guys today. Thanks so much for joining us, and uh, we'll see you in the next episode. Bye.

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