The MiDOViA Menopause Podcast

Episode 040: You Are Already Good: Reframing Body Image in Menopause

• April Haberman and Kim Hart • Season 1 • Episode 40

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What if the journey through menopause offered not just physical challenges, but a profound opportunity to heal your relationship with your body? In this illuminating conversation with Trisha Wilkerson, certified health and nutrition coach and trauma-sensitive yoga teacher, we explore how midlife becomes a crucial crossroads in women's relationships with themselves.

Trisha shares her personal evolution from disordered eating to becoming a compassionate guide for women struggling with food and body image. She reveals the patterns she's observed in women's relationships with their bodies - particularly the strong inner critic that judges, compares, and denies pleasure. This critical voice, she explains, often stems from childhood messages about not being enough, creating a lifelong pattern of seeking external approval.

The menopause transition brings these issues to the forefront as our bodies change in ways we can't control. As Trisha beautifully articulates, we face a choice: continue struggling against reality or begin the courageous work of acceptance. Her most powerful insight? "If we could see ourselves and our bodies as already good and then nurture what is already good... that postural change would be life changing."

Through practices like "compassionate curiosity" and her "notice, name, nurture" approach, Tricia offers practical ways to interrupt automatic negative thought patterns about our bodies. She challenges the idea that we need to force positivity, suggesting instead that neutrality - simply observing "there's my body" without judgment - might be a more authentic first step toward healing.

Discover how trauma-sensitive yoga can help reconnect with your body, why community is vital during menopause despite the fear of connection, and why, as Trisha reminds us, "Your most important relationship is the one with yourself." This episode offers not just insights, but a pathway toward making peace with your changing body during menopause and beyond.

Aftermath Agency: https://www.theaftermathagency.com/

Trisha Wilkerson is a certified Health and Nutrition Coach and published author. Trisha is dedicated to assisting individuals in improving their connections with food, their bodies, and themselves. By fostering compassionate curiosity and advocating an anti-diet philosophy, she creates a safe environment and relationship for clients to shift their anxieties concerning food, fitness, and other healthy practices towards inner peace--believing we can cultivate deeper health, at any size.

Trisha is currently working on her second book titled "Already Good: How Extreme Religion and Diet Culture Exploit Our Human Quest for Meaning and Belonging."  

Trisha is co-founder of The Aftermath Agency-- a collaborative private practice centering wholistic health in Edmonds, WA. There, she also teaches Trauma Sensitive Yoga, as a modality to assist embodied agency in healing from various traumas. 

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to the Medovia Menopause Podcast, your trusted source for information about menopause and midlife. Join us each episode, as we have great conversations with great people. Tune in and enjoy the show. Welcome everyone. Today we have Tricia Wilkerson on the show. Tricia is a certified health and nutrition coach and published author. She's dedicated to assisting individuals in improving their connections with food, their bodies and themselves. Tricia is currently working on her second book and is co-founder of the Aftermath Agency. It's a collaborative private practice centering holistic health right here in our own hometown of Edmonds. There she also teaches trauma sensitive yoga as a modality to assist embodied agency in healing from various traumas. Tricia, welcome to the show. Hello, thank you. We're excited to have you here. Thank you, oh thank you.

Speaker 2:

We're excited to have you here.

Speaker 1:

Thank you Audience members. We've known Tricia for some time now and really have come together through the work that you're doing, the work that we're doing in midlife and menopause space, so we're really excited to have you on the show today and to share your expertise. We know a lot about you and your work and think highly of what you do, but our listeners may not be familiar with you the Aftermath Agency. I'd like to talk a little bit about that as well today. So maybe we just start with you sharing a little bit about yourself. What brought you to the work that you do and really, in particular, your focus on food, body image and the trauma-informed movement that you do, and really, in particular, you're focused on food, body image and the trauma informed movement that you have.

Speaker 2:

Thank you. So about 10 years ago I started a kind of an internal reflection and process of healing from various forms of trauma. Myself I had struggled with disordered eating and you know all the dieting and body image issues, and so, in my own personal endeavor to heal, I started discovering various patterns of shame and behaviors that I was no longer content to behave with. So I stopped dieting. I started noticing patterns of shame and, as I have done 20 years of lay counseling I started noticing patterns in people that I was working with. So I moved from that world into food coaching and all of the training that was having me do more diet recommendation.

Speaker 2:

I started getting really cynical and skeptical and researchy around why this fails women specifically, and so some of the patterns that I started noticing was this shame orientation of the reliance for women to feel broken and not enough, therefore set up to find another formula that holds their worth and value and self-approval and approval from others. So the setup from dieting I started feeling really frustrated with for myself and for others, and so really it was a marriage of my counseling background and my love for cooking and food and starting to seeing the patterns in the way we relate to food and how we eat, what our behaviors are like, and then also body image, how we exist in our bodies, how we move our bodies and why. And really just wanting to heal myself but also help women, walk alongside, helping them do the story work of how those messages in early life show up today, in midlife, and make peace with their themselves, their food, their behaviors, their bodies. So it's a lot of conviction and passion and a desire to help women, women love that.

Speaker 3:

I love that the make peace part like yeah it resonates with me.

Speaker 1:

You took something that you struggled with and are helping others, and I always love to see that. Um, I also heard you just say, attricia, that you know with with the struggles that you faced with food, that you have a love for cooking and food now yeah so um know, proof in the pudding that you certainly can change mindset.

Speaker 1:

So can you share with us as we think about midlife women and the struggles that they carry with them, from a young age but with the diet body image, some of those challenges? Can you help us to understand what some of the more common struggles are that women bring to you in midlife?

Speaker 2:

What I've observed, the patterns that I've seen, is that women specifically have a strong inner critic, a voice that judges, compares, judges compares, denies pleasure, denies approval, a strong need to fit in and to look like other women, and this brings a lot of grief, it brings a lot of demand to do whatever it takes, and I think that roots from shame in our lives and in our stories that there's something fundamentally broken.

Speaker 2:

And if only I could do the things that would bring approval and acceptance, then I will do that. And so women are uniquely set up for that. Um, there's a lot of conditioning for women to be pleasing to, for our appearance to match expectations, and women are uniquely set up to want to make people happy. Um, there are hormonal components to that that you all know about, um, that are beautiful, and they're designed, um, beautifully for you know what, however, a woman wants to inhabit herself in her body. Maybe that is being a lifelong partner or a mother or a wonderful friend, whatever that looks like for a woman. There is a specific desire there to be pleasing.

Speaker 3:

I think it's really interesting. You talk about pleasing and shame. You know I do some coaching too, and shame even came up this morning in an earlier coaching session. I had Like why, why does this happen at midlife, and how can menopause bring up such an upheaval to women's relationships, to her body and food and all the things that have taken her this far in her life? What are some of the reasons why this comes up right now?

Speaker 2:

I have a theory, and I'm sure there are many reasons why, but I think in midlife we come face to face with what didn't work so far in our lives and maybe our bodies did please enough for us to just kind of put off making peace with ourselves and our bodies because we did get the approval, we did feel productive, we did feel pleasing, and then when our body starts to feel disappointing to us in some way, we have to to. We're at this intersection of choice of we are either going to keep doing the formulaic behaviors to demand ourselves to fit or we're going to face reality and move into a place of peace and acceptance. And midlife certainly puts us in that position of we don't have the same options that we did 20 years prior.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I think that's really interesting and I often see women who are like dealing with, finally, the unprocessed experiences from earlier in life that tends to surface during this stage. Can you talk about that tends?

Speaker 2:

to surface during this stage? Can you talk about that? Yeah, I think for me and for others, you know, if we had childhood wounds where maybe our caregivers were not securely attached, we weren't securely attached to them there can feel like an anxious relationship with others and ourselves and it's not really secure and safe. So then we look outside of ourselves for anything that would bring belonging and security and our body does not feel safe. So then sometimes that means we disconnect from ourselves and disconnect from our bodies and continually putting that hope on others to bring some satisfaction and security in relationship. So that little young self is still searching for some belonging and meaning and security.

Speaker 2:

And so in midlife it's again another opportunity. We can either numb that demand that we get it or we can bring a kindness, a gentleness and an acceptance to that and really make peace with ourselves. But it does take grief, it takes honesty right and it's okay. If a woman needs to put that off because it's too much and she doesn't have the supports in her life relationally or circumstantially, it's okay. But if a woman has those you know those resources emotionally and relationally in life, it is a, it is can be a precious opportunity to make peace and grieve those losses from early childhood.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think too is your is. You're talking through this, tricia, and I'm thinking about the grief piece of how you know it shows that we have space in our lives finally, right, maybe that maybe we've had kids leave the house and they're off in their careers or they're off to college and we have this margin in our lives to really think about our childhood and ourselves. It comes back to us, we finally have that focus and it can have a lot of grief that is attached to it. And I also think that women in midlife, as we're going through the menopause journey, can also carry a lot of narrative that our bodies are betraying us in menopause.

Speaker 1:

We hear that often in our trainings. Women are ticked, they are angry, they are frustrated. They are like why in the heck can't I lose weight? Why in the heck I'm doing all of the same things that I've done before, which we know doesn't always work. Change has to happen. But I'm wondering what do you say to women that feel that way, so kind of a shift from the childhood grief that can come along with that and moving more towards that betrayal? You know now my body won't do. I'm ready to make changes and I can't.

Speaker 2:

Right, I think it's complicated you know this thing to judge and work on and be separate from. So I think it can be very healing to start to bring in the clarity and the confidence that I am my body and being honest with I feel too good for my body, my body doesn't give me what I want and noticing there's some feelings of disappointment for our body not performing or showing up in the way that we prefer. So naming that, I think, is the first step noticing the disappointment and being honest with yourself about why you're disappointed. And then doing the work, the harder story work of why are you disappointed and are you in a place where you can accept reality. And it doesn't need to mean accept reality and be discontent in a way that does not deepen one's health. I'm talking about acceptance with an agenda, acceptance that brings gentleness, kindness and peace, while working on your health, while deepening your health, while finding reasonable challenges that move you towards deeper, holistic health.

Speaker 1:

So not rubbing in the towel and surrendering to say, oh, whatever, right, there's work, that's apathy.

Speaker 2:

Good work. Yeah, exactly, we're not talking about grief because of disappointment moving to a place of peace. That's apathetic. We're working on peace with an agenda, peace with the way we would take care of our children. We always have an eye towards their deeper health, deeper growth and challenge and we look for opportunities to gently, lovingly challenge them. But we're not saying you're good, If you do those challenges, then I will love you. We're saying I love you and I think you need to work on this. If we could do that to ourselves. I love you body and I and you're already good. Let's work on this too. And you're already good, let's work on this too.

Speaker 1:

I really love that I love it. I know it sounds simple. Say that again, trisha, just say it again for our listeners, can you?

Speaker 2:

So this is my whole thing Like if we could see ourselves and our bodies as already good and then nurture what is already good. That postural change towards ourselves and what we work on would be life changing. But so often we look at ourselves and our bodies and say, not good, I'm going to do these things to get good. So if we could love ourselves and say you know what? You're already acceptable, already good, already precious and worthy of attention. I accept you and I see you Now I'm going to take better care of you because I love you. That is how we would mother, that's how we'd be a friend. So often we don't do that. We withhold that acceptance and try to get some goodness by what we do with ourselves and our bodies. You know we're always chasing it. Yeah, what if we?

Speaker 1:

are already good. What if we were already good? What if we were already good? And I think that that chasing oftentimes is for other people you know it's and that's probably a whole other podcast but I do think that that is sometimes wanting to seek that approval for other people, where I, again, I love that reframing of we are. We are already good and because we are already good, I'm going to take care of my body and I'm going to work towards. You know, fill in the blank, I love that. Can you talk a little bit about compassionate curiosity as a path to healing and what that looks like in practice?

Speaker 2:

Yes, my favorite phrase. So that inner judge, that critic, that compare, that we scan. I've noticed that women talk about the looping, the mental looping, the judge that is so prevalent in our minds. So the compassionate curiosity approach is the swap. If we can start a practice in ourselves where we notice something and we pause, we notice that judge, we notice the critic, we notice the negative thoughts around our body. We can stop and say you know what?

Speaker 2:

I notice that you're trying to feel good, you're feeling insecure, you're feeling judgmental, and wrap ourselves in that compassion of noticing there's grief there and disappointment. We don't feel good and then be curious Is there something going on in my life right now where I'm feeling more stirred up, more pressured, more desiring to achieve something? So compassionate curiosity is a strategic replacement or swap of that judgment, because you don't just take the judge away, you need something to replace it and again, we're compassionate and curious with others. We don't speak to others the way that we speak to ourselves in our minds. So could we apply compassion and curiosity to ourselves? That's the hope and when we have compassion and curiosity instead of the inner critic, we start to have more peace and acceptance in ourselves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah. And noticing is the first part. It keeps coming back to noticing. It is Haunting to notice.

Speaker 2:

And I would say it's neutral. Noticing the neutrality is important because often in the noticing it's almost simultaneous that it's negative or judgmental in the noticing.

Speaker 1:

So neutral noticing. So can we just stop right here and give an example of both? Maybe I know I may be putting you on the spot here, but can you give us a you know this versus this scenario?

Speaker 2:

Yeah. So I think you know mirrors in our homes, you know if we catch ourselves. I could say I walk by and I notice, whoa, look a little bigger right now, you know, than I did a month ago. Oh, okay, and I might feel a little bit bad about that. I might feel a familiar streak of disapproval and judgment of, oh, I don't like that, you know, I wish I were smaller. And just that voice that comes through.

Speaker 2:

Now I notice that I'm doing it. I'm noticing that familiar pattern of the search for approval from myself or a shame that kicks in of, oh, someone's going to notice that I've put on some weight or that my clothes are tight. As I observe myself in an instant in the mirror is hearkening back to the familiar shame-oriented thinking Something's wrong with me. Why wouldn't I notice myself in an instant in a mirror and have a neutral thought Well, there's me. But it tends to the default of what's familiar the ditch of shame and judgment and regret, disappointment, disapproval. So the neutral noticing is I see that I'm doing that.

Speaker 2:

I see that I'm going through the familiar pattern of thinking about myself this way Pause, notice and then move towards a place yeah, there's my body. My body has served me my whole life and these are the things that it's doing right now to express this life. I wonder if I could notice myself with a kindness and actually move towards a place of approval and, oh my goodness, maybe affection for what I see. That's the goal, and then, even more, could I advocate for this good body, could I advocate for this being that is me, that is in this body, and then grieve that that familiar judgment and shame was covering all that kindness and affection. So that would be my prayer. My hope for myself is that that's the shift, that's the switch over to kindness.

Speaker 3:

It's a little on the idea of you're not your thoughts right, you can reframe what your thoughts are and listen to what they're saying and know, be conscious of the fact that this is not serving you, and which is the way you said it, which I think is so such an important thing that we see from women who feel like they don't even deserve sometimes to learn about menopause and how to take care of themselves. Right, there's too many other priorities and learning how to prioritize yourself is hard, hard work. When you were raised and served in many other roles besides that, switching gears a little bit, how do you integrate your work as a trauma-informed yoga teacher and movement and all the nutrition work that you've done as a health coach? How do you integrate that? It feels like to the lay person, it's like, okay, those are different, but I mean just listening to you, I think that there are amazing ways in which you've brought all that work together.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, I'd love to connect those dots for us. So disordered eating, eating disorders, behaviors with food that are anxious right, if we have a spectrum over here, is peace on one side, peace in the way we relate to food and the way we relate to our body. Clear on the other side would be anxiety, disordered eating behaviors that are compulsive or obsessive. And all of us are somewhere on that continuum right, moving towards peace, hopefully. So what happens is when we are more over here on the side of anxiety and disordered behaviors, we disconnect from our bodies. So people that have struggled with eating disorders are the most disembodied individuals, so they're the most disassociated, they're the most disconnected from noticing what's happening in their bodies. So that is science-based knowledge. And so people are walking around disconnected, unaware of how they're feeling in their body, unaware of hunger, satisfaction, pleasure, unaware of aches and pains, totally shut off. So this can happen because of trauma. It can happen because of choices that we've made out of trauma.

Speaker 2:

And so in my work with food, with movement, I've noticed and researched this piece of how do we, how do we choose a modality that brings deeper healing through connection to our body. So trauma sensitive yoga is one, one modality that brings gentle awareness back into the body. So in my yoga school they talked about, you know, from like ancient practices. You know we're letting go of the body, and I got so fired up and I was talking to the teachers all the time no, no, no, no, no. Most people haven't even entered the body yet. We don't let go of the body until we've spent a whole lot of time making peace and making friends with our bodies again. So we actually need to spend a whole lot of time connecting with our good bodies before we let go of the body. So that's my work is helping women specifically. Yes, I have male clients, but women especially are conditioned to disconnect and disapprove and not prioritize themselves. So it's way familiar for women to be checked out of their bodies.

Speaker 2:

So yoga, as you two know, is this precious opportunity and invitation to connect to the body. So our relationship to food and our relationship to our bodies are symbols for how we relate to ourselves. So if we find ourselves nurturing ourselves with movement that feels good to us and consistent nutrition and wonderful foods, we're looping ourselves, because we take good care of what we love. And if we're loving ourselves, we're caring for ourselves. But if we find that we are never thinking about those things, we are almost neglectful. To those things we need to give some attention. So trauma-sensitive yoga is this opportunity to bring that connection back into the body. And it's trauma sensitive because in trauma we're especially disconnected so we're more sensitive to touch. So I don't do any hands-on assist.

Speaker 2:

Mirrors are triggering, anticipating decisions that people would have to make. So, having everything set up, people are propping themselves. It's adaptive in the sense that there's always options People are. Another thing that's lost in trauma is agency, the ability to see your options and make a choice, because in our trauma we went through something that we didn't choose right, so that disconnection again from our body and disconnection from choice. So in trauma-sensitive yoga the main thing is increasing that sense of agency. Oh, I don't want to do that with my body. She's telling me to do what I don't want to do. That, oh, I could do this instead. Oh, wow, that feels. That feels different. I get to choose what I want to do with my body, right, so it's tremendous. Then I could go, obviously, on and on and on.

Speaker 1:

And it sounds empowering too. For sure we're. We're when we have realized we have choice and we make those choices. It it increases our confidence and empowerment as well. So I love that I'll have to come take one of your classes, I imagine, too. I'm kind of shifting a little bit here because I want to make sure that we talk about community, because we all know that community is important, especially in midlife. We hear very, you know, very often from women that they are lonely, they feel isolated, they feel alone and community has, you know, many benefits. But can you talk a little bit about community and what that might look like, whether that's with your trauma, informed yoga sessions, whether that's just community gatherings in general? What connection does community make in the healing piece of what we're discussing today?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean to be able to see the eyes of someone else talking about their story and relating and validating your experience is transformative because it reduces that isolation right, I think connection is the remedy to pain, and pain is felt in our emotions, our bodies, our relationships, our stories. It shows up physically and connection with ourselves and connection with others is this pathway to healing. And at Aftermath Agency that's one of our main theories is pain is everywhere, pain is in our lives and our bodies and our hearts, and connection is a path towards healing. So, community that is meaningful and intentional. Of course we can have fun with one another. It doesn't have to be deep all the time. But meaningful connection that's intentional, with a purpose of of you know, strategically connection, connecting in a way that heals us. There's nothing like it. It's really powerful.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, when you get people, especially women, in a room together, wonderful, beautiful things happen, as we've seen'm wondering um, tricia, we have, I'm going to ask you this question and and I'll just ask you the question. So we have, um, we often have people say to us, or just don't say to us, um, you have a gathering, you have an opportunity for women to come together to share their stories, to build that community, to heal, to thrive, and yet there's a lot of women that are afraid to take that first step right. I remember somebody telling me that they registered for an event and they drove around in their car. They sat in the parking lot, they thought about coming in. They didn't come in. They never entered the room, never gave themselves the opportunity to do that. So it's a hard step, it can be a hard step, and yet we know that there are such beautiful benefits on the other side of that.

Speaker 2:

If you had someone sitting in front of you right now that told you that story, what would you say to her? I would have a lot of compassion. I would want to convey that with curiosity and comfort and I'd also want to try to normalize that. It's scary and what can be stirred in that anxiety. It takes me back to being like 12, 13, 14, wanting to fit in with the girls and that stuff can remain right, that fear and that desire to be accepted and belong.

Speaker 2:

There's an opportunity there for compassion noticing. So I would ask this tender heart. I would say you know what? I wonder what you were wanting in that and if you could have compassion for yourself and just take the next small step towards that. It doesn't need to look like you know, really putting yourself out there to the max, but what's one small step that you can take to to increase the opportunity, um, to connect to another woman? Um, it's so intimidating, Um, and if we could talk more, all of us, um, even as leaders or influencers, that we have that same feeling of insecurity and intimidation too. It's not um's not this group of women that have it all put together, and I think that's the mystery that some of us in our insecurity, think is, there's these women that really know, and I'm not like them.

Speaker 1:

You're absolutely right. I tell my daughter that all the time Like mom, how do you get up in front of everybody and talk? And I could never do that. And you Like mom, how do you get up in front of everybody and talk? And I could never do that. And you're like do you know what I just did? And my hands were shaking so bad that I had to hold the microphone with both hands so people wouldn't see me shaking Right. Like it's not, we're not right. We're not the separate group of people that never experienced that. Yeah, we just do things despite, because we know that there are beautiful things on the other side.

Speaker 1:

That's right. Yeah, going scared, going scared.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, I think that sometimes I feel like I do that too much. You go scary every single time. So, tricia, what's one practice you'd recommend for a woman who wants to feel more grounded and connected to their body during this time of menopause?

Speaker 2:

I really I use the little adage of notice, name and nurture with my clients. So when you notice disconnection or you notice disappointment or grief, whatever the feeling is arising in you about your body or your health or menopause, noticing it is the first step, hopefully with neutral noticing and then naming it, name what you're feeling and then nurture, nurture something different. And that takes awareness, that takes self-awareness to know what's happening inside yourself and the more we can do that. And where it becomes a common practice of notice, name and nurture, we start to befriend ourselves because we realize, you know what All this noticing is showing me that I'm really not very kind to myself. In fact I'm kind of bullying myself a lot. And then you know, we're naming it. So do we actually want to nurture something different? Do we want to nurture ourselves like we would nurture a loved one? That's a little practice that I recommend for clients.

Speaker 3:

that's helpful when, oh man, there are so many times where I've not been neutral in my noticing, and that's a really great thing to remember and to catch yourself on right.

Speaker 2:

Can I say something about that? So body positivity movement I'm not totally for, because it's a. I think it's that. This is. You don't have to agree with me, but it's a, it's a swing in the other direction. Now we're supposed to have all this positivity about all bodies and I think that neutral is better than forcing something that isn't natural yet in ourselves.

Speaker 2:

So it's better to if we see our bodies and say we're standing in front of the mirror and our whole lives we've been negative, right, it's always been negative when we look at ourselves. Well, body positivity would have us say look at that gorgeous self, wow, you're so beautiful. And I'm saying, you know what, maybe someday, but I'm all about the neutrality. What if we just maybe someday, but I'm I'm all about the neutrality. What if we just? Our goal right now is looking at ourselves and say there's a body, there's me, you know, because the pressure then to pendulum swing from negative to positive without some time in the neutrality can backfire.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, well, and I also think that you don't believe it when you're when you're trying to go from one extreme to the other, but you can go. The truth is that is a body you know, totally believe that. I think that's so good yeah.

Speaker 1:

Well, we are running out of time, but I want to ask you one more question before we end, because we ask all of our guests this what is one piece of advice, the best piece of advice that you've ever received or given to someone?

Speaker 2:

Well, I have five children, and they're all you know. They're 16 to 23. And I think, for me, the advice that I have most given to them that has come back from them to me is your most important relationship is the one with yourself. So, you know, spending time to prioritize and nurturing ourselves and working on all those aspects is precious work. Yeah, that's so great.

Speaker 3:

Thank you so much.

Speaker 2:

It's really great.

Speaker 3:

So where can people find you when they're looking?

Speaker 2:

for you Aftermath agency, so the website would be good. Aftermathagencycom and I do relationship to food and body coaching, as well as teaching trauma sensitive restorative yoga. Yeah, trauma sensitive restorative yoga.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what are those classes?

Speaker 2:

if for local folks, yeah. So right now there's a Friday morning class and a Friday evening class, 10 AM and 7 PM. It's a 90 minute class and it is a nervous system resetting form of yoga. So it's all about rest, not about doing. This is not an athletic yoga class. This is more about calming yourself down.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it sounds beautiful.

Speaker 1:

And register on your website. We will be sure to put all of the links in our show notes and we thank you so much for being here. Important work, I know, tricia. There's more to come because Aftermath Agency and Medovia is going to be doing a special event in September. So more to come on that and we're looking forward to it. But until then, listeners go find joy in the journey. It's been a pleasure. Have a great day, thanks, tricia. Thanks so much. Thank you for listening to the Medovia Menopause Podcast. If you enjoyed today's show, please give it a thumbs up, subscribe for future episodes, leave a review and share this episode with a friend. Medovia is out to change the narrative. Learn more at medoviacom. That's M-I-D-O-V-I-A dot com.

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