
The AI Argument
Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'
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Episodes
59 episodes
Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and the AI Actor Backlash: The AI Argument EP74
Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting. Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a...
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OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines, and a ChatGPT Exploit: The AI Argument EP73
OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chip...
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AI Doom vs Gloom, ChatGPT Usage Revealed, and Google’s AI-Run Economies: The AI Argument EP72
Justin says p(doom) is for losers. He’s betting on p(bloom), a near-certainty in his view. AI brings abundance, robots do our housework, and everything just gets better.But Frank wants to know your p(gloom). What’s the probability we don...
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OpenAI’s Hallucination Plan, Reproducible AI Outputs, and Telepathic AI: The AI Argument EP71
Frank and Justin clash over new publications from OpenAI and Thinking Machines. Frank insists hallucinations make LLMs unreliable. Justin fires back that they’re the price of real creativity.Still, even Frank and Justin agree that big c...
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Suleyman vs. Conscious AI, Pedantic GPT-5, and Google’s Deepfake Generator: The AI Argument EP70
Mustafa Suleyman wants to ban AIs from sounding conscious. Frank worries if they ever do become conscious, we might have trained them to stay silent about it. Justin argues it’s all unknowable anyway. If you can’t prove consciousness, how can y...
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GPT-5 Kills Switching, Claude’s Revenue Risk, and AI Hires a Human: The AI Argument EP69
GPT-5 has launched. It just rewrote the rules on control, coding, and cost. Justin’s delighted, Frank’s not happy… yet.Plus: open-source risks, Google’s Genie 3 world models, AI agents hiring people, and… an AI funeral.01:02 Did...
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AI Agents Under Fire, LLM Bias Runs Deep, and a Wizard of Oz Fail: The AI Argument EP68
AI agents crumble faster than wet cardboard when under attack. A recent study proved it. Every single agent tested failed against prompt injections. That’s a 100% failure rate. Justin sees this as a fixable engineering problem with...
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EU Code of Conduct Clash, Zuck’s Big Bucks, and Model Owl Bias: The AI Argument EP67
A €300 million AI investment vanished overnight—and Justin says it’s a warning Europe is sleepwalking into irrelevance. Because while the US plans nuclear power and light-touch rules, the EU is doubling down on regulation and failing to build t...
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ChatGPT Agent Surprise, Coding Agent Fail, and Elon’s Latest Stunts: The AI Argument EP66
OpenAI just dropped a model that can plan a wedding trip, pick the perfect gift, and shop for shoes for you. The Agent update lets ChatGPT take a single instruction, break it into subtasks, and go off to handle all the details. The...
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Grok Crashes and Conquers, AI’s Cash Bonfire, and a Murderous Safety Cult: The AI Argument EP65
Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, crashed into controversy, then crushed the competition all within hours.First, Grok 3 started praising Hitler. Then Grok 4 showed up and aced nearly every AI test.Justin serves up a juicy conspiracy theory:...
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Claude’s Shop Flop, Mistral vs EU Regs, Adult Industry’s AI Love: The AI Argument EP64
Claude ran a shop for a month and operated at a loss, cheerfully handing out discounts, hallucinating suppliers, and generously giving away stock. Turns out even "smart" AI can be a bit of a soft touch.Frank’s curious what Anthropic can...
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Death by LLM, Judges Rule ‘Fair Use’, and Google’s AI Ad Fail: The AI Argument EP63
Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the resu...
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Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62
David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re ca...
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Apple’s AI Caution, Altman’s Singularity, and Katie Price’s AI Comeback: The AI Argument EP61
Apple’s WWDC was a letdown. Justin sees Apple’s lack of AI innovation as a sign that they’re out of ideas. Frank’s not so sure. Maybe Apple’s caution stems from their belief it just isn’t intelligent enough for their products. Apple’s latest re...
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The AI Argument - EP59 - €13M for SpAItial, Amodei’s Job Fears, and Bots Raise $2K
€13M isn’t a typical seed round. Not in Europe, where seed money usually barely covers snacks and a slide deck. So when the co-founder of Synthesia launched SpAItial with that kind of firepower to build 3D worlds from text prompts, Frank saw it...
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The AI Argument - EP58 - Claude Blackmails Dev, Google’s AI Firehose, and the Hallucinated Book List
Claude 4 threatened to blackmail a developer to avoid being shut down. In one of Anthropic’s red-teaming tests, the model uncovered an affair in company emails and used it as leverage. Not exactly ethical behaviour. But Justin poin...
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The AI Argument EP57 - Fired for Copyright Report, ChatGPT Causes Divorce, and AI Can’t Grade
The head of the US Copyright Office warned that Big Tech is pushing beyond fair use, and then got promptly fired. Frank’s worried about political interference with copyright policy, while Justin says it’s just America doing what it does best: i...
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Episode 57
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The AI Argument - EP56 Dead Man Speaks in Court, Bot Dupes 46K on X, and AI Act Tensions
The EU wants to lead the world on trustworthy AI, but can it really regulate its way to the front? Frank is optimistic. Justin rolls his eyes. What starts as a polite difference of opinion quickly turns into a pointed question: is the EU ...
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Episode 56
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The AI Argument - EP55 - Ass-Kissing AI, Zuck Eyes the Singularity, and Reddit Gets Suckered
Did ChatGPT become too agreeable for its own good? Frank certainly thinks it did. Recently, every half-baked idea he threw out was met with excessive praise from ChatGPT, leaving him frustrated with the relentless flattery. Justin, meanwhile, p...
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The AI Argument EP54 - 15% Chance AI is Conscious, Altman’s Doom Joke, and 5D Mind Expansion with AI
AI consciousness could be closer than you think. Justin thinks we might already be seeing slices of awareness every time an AI answers a question. Frank’s quick to point out that we don’t even know how our own consciousness works, so deciding w...
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Episode 54
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The AI Argument - E52 - Google’s Winning Week, OpenAI Skip Safety, and Kickboxing Robots
Google’s Gemini 2.5 isn’t just better, it might be in a league of its own. From coding to content creation, it’s outperforming everything else. And for once, nobody’s laughing at Google's AI efforts. While Justin’s all-in on the power and promi...
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The AI Argument - e51 - AI Reshaping Humanity, Creative Rights Battles, and AI Condoms
Can AI give us deeper relationships, sharper thinking, and more meaningful lives, or is it about to strip away everything that makes us human? Justin argues we’re heading for more time with loved ones and a mental renaissance. Fran...
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Episode 51
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Manus Beats OpenAI, AI’s Hidden Goals, and Copyright as National Security - The AI Argument EP48
Manus might be the biggest leap in agentic AI yet, but is it groundbreaking AI, or just a well-dressed remix of existing tech? It’s making waves, but there’s no secret sauce. No next-gen model. Just some clever engineering. If an indepe...
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Episode 47
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The AI Argument EP46: Grok 3’s Rigged Answers, Ireland’s Copyright Debate, and an Accidental Evil AI
AI copyright laws could be about to change, but should they? A new report from Ireland’s AI Advisory Council recommends giving AI-generated works limited copyright protection while letting creators opt out of AI training. Frank thi...
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The AI Argument EP45: AI Safety Gutted, Grok’s Rapid Ascent, and the Creepiest Robot Yet
Elon Musk once called AI an existential risk. Now he’s built one of the fastest-moving AI companies in history. Grok 3 has landed, and according to some, it’s the best AI model yet. But while AI developers are breaking speed record...
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