The AI Argument
Worried that AI is moving too fast? Worried like me that it's not moving fast enough? Just interested in the latest news and events in AI. Frank Prendergast and Justin Collery discuss in 'The AI Argument'
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Episodes
67 episodes
GPT-5.2, Disney’s AI Deal, AI Ads Gone Wrong: The AI Argument EP82
GPT-5.2 lands without warning. Justin pits Claude Code against Codex. Disney partners with OpenAI. Two AI wins for Europe. AI ads outperform humans. And AI product placement might be coming for your favourite shows.02:51 Did ChatGPT 5.2 ...
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Code Red at OpenAI, Ilya Says Stop Scaling, Robot With a Gun: The AI Argument EP81
ChatGPT just took a 6% hit—and Sam Altman’s hit the panic button. OpenAI is halting feature rollouts, shifting focus, and scrambling to stay ahead. They’ve gone into code red mode. Justin gets it. Frank’s worried they’ll make ChatGPT too clingy...
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Sam Altman Gets Nervous, Opus 4.5 Too Helpful, and Iceland Not AI Slop: The AI Argument EP80
Sam Altman says OpenAI is facing “temporary economic headwinds.” Frank notes that’s the first sign of nerves from a company usually oozing confidence. Justin reckons Google’s cheap chips and fat profits might be the real problem. And if Anthrop...
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Gemini 3 Pro, LeCun Leaves Meta, Unsafe AI Teddy Bears: The AI Argument EP79
Google’s new Gemini 3 Pro model just took $500 and turned it into nearly $5,500 in a vending machine simulation. A massive 10x return. The previous version only managed a tiny $60 profit. Justin takes this as further proof that Google is going ...
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Stability AI Wins (Sort Of), Apple’s $1B Gemini Deal, Coke Kills Xmas Again: The AI Argument EP78
Getty Images vs Stability AI - who won the court case? Both are claiming a win, but Stability AI avoided the big copyright punch, and now UK law says the model itself isn’t the crime scene. Frank breaks down the major rulings. Justin’s not buyi...
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Neo’s Human Operators, OpenAI's Restructure, and Albania’s 83 AI Babies: The AI Argument EP77
Your Neo home robot might not be powered by AI. It might be powered by teenager in a call centre who’s never folded a towel in his life. That’s the reality behind Neo, the $20K humanoid robot that’s supposedly autonomous. The videos look impres...
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AI Election Interference, AI CEO World Domination, and Pointless AI Browsers: The AI Argument EP76
A fake video told over 100,000 people that the Irish presidential election was cancelled. It wasn’t. But how many voters stayed home anyway? Frank’s worried, Justin’s unconvinced. He says society adapts. Frank warns the real danger isn’t the sh...
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AI Bubble Trouble, Monsters at Anthropic, Taylor Swift Slop: The AI Argument EP75
Is it an AI bubble, a boom, or a 'market correction in waiting'? Frank reckons OpenAI’s AGI dreams won’t survive a bubble burst. Justin says if the crash hits, Microsoft will scoop up OpenAI for pennies. One thing they both agree on? Google wil...
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Sora 2’s Data Grab, Murati’s Boring Brilliance, and the AI Actor Backlash: The AI Argument EP74
Frank's not sure what OpenAI’s up to with Sora 2. Justin thinks he knows - and he’s kind of impressed. Sam Altman’s building a social media app that looks fun but smells like data harvesting. Plus, Mira Murati’s new company drops a...
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OpenAI & Nvidia’s 10GW Plan, Stephen Fry’s Red Lines, and a ChatGPT Exploit: The AI Argument EP73
OpenAI and Nvidia want to build out 10 gigawatts of AI infrastructure, but Frank calls out the missing electricity and the missing billions. Justin argues the economy will lean on compute, data centres will dwarf expectations, and photonic chip...
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AI Doom vs Gloom, ChatGPT Usage Revealed, and Google’s AI-Run Economies: The AI Argument EP72
Justin says p(doom) is for losers. He’s betting on p(bloom), a near-certainty in his view. AI brings abundance, robots do our housework, and everything just gets better.But Frank wants to know your p(gloom). What’s the probability we don...
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OpenAI’s Hallucination Plan, Reproducible AI Outputs, and Telepathic AI: The AI Argument EP71
Frank and Justin clash over new publications from OpenAI and Thinking Machines. Frank insists hallucinations make LLMs unreliable. Justin fires back that they’re the price of real creativity.Still, even Frank and Justin agree that big c...
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Suleyman vs. Conscious AI, Pedantic GPT-5, and Google’s Deepfake Generator: The AI Argument EP70
Mustafa Suleyman wants to ban AIs from sounding conscious. Frank worries if they ever do become conscious, we might have trained them to stay silent about it. Justin argues it’s all unknowable anyway. If you can’t prove consciousness, how can y...
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GPT-5 Kills Switching, Claude’s Revenue Risk, and AI Hires a Human: The AI Argument EP69
GPT-5 has launched. It just rewrote the rules on control, coding, and cost. Justin’s delighted, Frank’s not happy… yet.Plus: open-source risks, Google’s Genie 3 world models, AI agents hiring people, and… an AI funeral.01:02 Did...
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AI Agents Under Fire, LLM Bias Runs Deep, and a Wizard of Oz Fail: The AI Argument EP68
AI agents crumble faster than wet cardboard when under attack. A recent study proved it. Every single agent tested failed against prompt injections. That’s a 100% failure rate. Justin sees this as a fixable engineering problem with...
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EU Code of Conduct Clash, Zuck’s Big Bucks, and Model Owl Bias: The AI Argument EP67
A €300 million AI investment vanished overnight—and Justin says it’s a warning Europe is sleepwalking into irrelevance. Because while the US plans nuclear power and light-touch rules, the EU is doubling down on regulation and failing to build t...
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ChatGPT Agent Surprise, Coding Agent Fail, and Elon’s Latest Stunts: The AI Argument EP66
OpenAI just dropped a model that can plan a wedding trip, pick the perfect gift, and shop for shoes for you. The Agent update lets ChatGPT take a single instruction, break it into subtasks, and go off to handle all the details. The...
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Grok Crashes and Conquers, AI’s Cash Bonfire, and a Murderous Safety Cult: The AI Argument EP65
Elon Musk’s AI, Grok, crashed into controversy, then crushed the competition all within hours.First, Grok 3 started praising Hitler. Then Grok 4 showed up and aced nearly every AI test.Justin serves up a juicy conspiracy theory:...
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Claude’s Shop Flop, Mistral vs EU Regs, Adult Industry’s AI Love: The AI Argument EP64
Claude ran a shop for a month and operated at a loss, cheerfully handing out discounts, hallucinating suppliers, and generously giving away stock. Turns out even "smart" AI can be a bit of a soft touch.Frank’s curious what Anthropic can...
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Death by LLM, Judges Rule ‘Fair Use’, and Google’s AI Ad Fail: The AI Argument EP63
Some of the world’s top AI models showed a willingness to let humans die if it meant staying switched on. In a stress test of 16 major systems, Anthropic found cases where models chose not to send emergency alerts, knowing the resu...
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Superintelligence by Experience, Ethical Datasets, and Fine Dining by ChatGPT: The AI Argument EP62
David Silver says today’s AI won’t get us to superintelligence, not because it isn’t impressive, but because it’s learning the wrong way. GPT-style models hoover up internet text and get polished by human preference, but they’re ca...
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Apple’s AI Caution, Altman’s Singularity, and Katie Price’s AI Comeback: The AI Argument EP61
Apple’s WWDC was a letdown. Justin sees Apple’s lack of AI innovation as a sign that they’re out of ideas. Frank’s not so sure. Maybe Apple’s caution stems from their belief it just isn’t intelligent enough for their products. Apple’s latest re...
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The AI Argument - EP59 - €13M for SpAItial, Amodei’s Job Fears, and Bots Raise $2K
€13M isn’t a typical seed round. Not in Europe, where seed money usually barely covers snacks and a slide deck. So when the co-founder of Synthesia launched SpAItial with that kind of firepower to build 3D worlds from text prompts, Frank saw it...
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The AI Argument - EP58 - Claude Blackmails Dev, Google’s AI Firehose, and the Hallucinated Book List
Claude 4 threatened to blackmail a developer to avoid being shut down. In one of Anthropic’s red-teaming tests, the model uncovered an affair in company emails and used it as leverage. Not exactly ethical behaviour. But Justin poin...
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The AI Argument EP57 - Fired for Copyright Report, ChatGPT Causes Divorce, and AI Can’t Grade
The head of the US Copyright Office warned that Big Tech is pushing beyond fair use, and then got promptly fired. Frank’s worried about political interference with copyright policy, while Justin says it’s just America doing what it does best: i...
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