85. ChatGPT vs. CLIA: The AI Revolution That’s Transforming Personalized Health with Dr. Cam McDonald

In this fascinating and much-anticipated conversation, Susan sits down once again with the one and only Dr. Cam McDonald, CEO and Chief Educator of pH360, mentor, and longtime friend, to explore one of the hottest topics in the health world today: AI in medicine.

We’re diving deep into the difference between using general AI tools like ChatGPT to make health decisions versus precision medical AI systems designed specifically for clinical use, like CLIA, the cutting-edge AI developed by pH360.

Dr. Cam breaks down how CLIA has been built over 15 years of real-world medical data from 140 countries, offering a truly individualized, evidence-based approach that considers your genes, environment, biology, and lifestyle, not just generic “one-size-fits-all” answers from the internet.

In this episode:

• Why using ChatGPT for health advice can be risky, and sometimes dangerous
  
  
• How CLIA’s advanced data modeling transforms AI into a medical precision tool
  
  
• The three V’s that make data trustworthy: Volume, Veracity, and Variety
  
  
• How CLIA integrates with your pH360 profile, labs, DNA, and lifestyle data for truly personalized insights
  
  
• Real-world results from Susan’s clients, from dramatic cholesterol drops to reversing early kidney disease

Susan also shares her own story of using CLIA to optimize her thyroid health, improve sleep, and even lower her biological age, proving that the right technology, used correctly, can truly transform human potential.

If you’ve ever turned to ChatGPT or Google for health advice, you need to hear this one.

This conversation will completely change how you think about AI, medicine, and the future of personalized wellness.

Listen in to discover: Why not all AI is created equal — and how precision health technology like CLIA is rewriting the future of healthcare.

Learn more about our guest Dr. Cam McDonald:

Dr Cam McDonald is a leader, educator, PhD scholar and internationally recognised speaker on personalised and precision health. As a key executive & education leader at Precision Health Alliance – his mission is to eliminate chronic disease and pain by 2050, and having ‘healthy’ and ‘resilient’  as the norm. Dr Cam is an exercise physiology, accredited practising dietitian, PhD Scholar, a Fellow of the Australasian Society of Lifestyle Medicine, an experienced clinician and is an international leader in the application of personalised health, epigenetics. His focus is to educate individuals on how the whole environment impacts physical and mental health and disease. Dr Cam leaves an indelible mark on the audience through his ability to simplify the complexity of health science, infuse hope and stimulate action.

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Connect with Dr. Cam McDonald:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drcammcdonald/

Website: https://precisionhealthalliance.org/

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