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23 | Breaking Free from Victim Mentality: LIVE MINDSET WORKSHOP with Mark England

Leanne Knox

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Have you ever felt trapped by a victim mentality and wondered how to break free? This episode of our podcast offers a solution. We are joined by Mark England, co-founder and head coach of Enlifted, who shares his expertise on how the Enlifted Coaches mindset coaching system can transform your life. Together with my partner Steve, we recount our journey as Team Bogan, and how embracing this identity, paired with the Enlifted system, helped us overcome self-doubt and embrace empowerment. We also sprinkle in some humour, contrasting the cultural quirks of Australian Bogans with American rednecks...
TODAY YOU'LL LEARN FROM THE GOAT, MARK ENGLAND:

  • How to unpack the intricate relationship between self-worth, societal expectations, and cultural phenomena like Australia's tall poppy syndrome. 
  • The irony of self-criticism and how it perpetuates through generations. 
  • The nuanced differences between self-centeredness and selflessness, 
  • Actionable insights on how to achieve internal satisfaction and comfort, moving beyond the need for external validation
  • A behind-the-scenes look at how "abracadabra" really works... Mark takes both Steve and I through our own Progress Stories


Lastly, we shine a spotlight on everyday heroes—paramedics, police officers, and teachers—whose contributions often go unrecognized. By sharing personal stories of growth, such as Steve's sobriety journey and my own podcasting adventure, we underscore the power of commitment and resilience.

Practical steps like breath work and written affirmations are discussed to highlight the importance of self-awareness and positive self-affirmation.

Tune in to discover how choosing better words can transform your narrative and help you break free from a victim mentality, leading to personal improvement and stronger mental well-being.

For more word magic form Mark and the Team at Enlifted, please go follow along in Instagram @enliftedcoaches
And learn more about certifying yourself as a language Ninja at www.enlifted.me

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Speaker 1:

Welcome to Uplift you creating strong bodies and mind. Get ready to power up your day with practical strength training tools, inspiring stories and build resilience of body and mind. It's time to Uplift you, together with your host, leanne Knox. Welcome to the next episode of Uplift you, the podcast that helps you create a stronger body and a stronger mind through practical tips, tools and inspiring stories.

Speaker 1:

Today, I have two awesome guests joining us, one being my partner, steve, whom listeners have already met on a previous podcast, and Mr Mark England, co-founder and head coach of Enlifted Coaches, a practical mindset coaching system which both Steve and I have been students of and now also teachers of, for the past two years. Mark is on a mission to defeat the victim mentality by certifying coaches, teachers and leaders in how to utilise the Enlifted method so they can empower their clients to take action, become more in control of their life and optimize their mental well-being. Mark has been researching, presenting and coaching on the power of words and stories for the past 17 years. He has personally certified 430 in Lifted Coaches. He's given over a thousand professional presentations and been interviewed on over 430 podcasts. Welcome to Uplift U, mark. Great to finally have you here.

Speaker 2:

Leanne, steve, bob, thank you for having me. Great to see you all again and thanks everybody for listening.

Speaker 1:

Mark, I've put our names on the bottom of the screen, which the listeners may or may not see, depending on whether this gets on the gram. Another name we've known as is Team Bogan, australia.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Now I believe that this is a fitting time that you briefly tell the audience how this name was born.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm from the South in the United States and I live out in the country and some people would refer to us as rednecks and, if I'm remembering correctly, there is an area or a type of person in Australia that would fit that bill. Real people, blue collar make things happen super fun. Australia, that would fit that bill. Real people, blue collar make things happen super fun.

Speaker 3:

And those people are called Bogans, right yeah, remember us as Aussie Bogans, mate, because the rednecks wear flannies, so do the Bogans. But the Aussie bogans have more teeth in their mouth, mate, y'all have more teeth.

Speaker 2:

We have more teeth.

Speaker 3:

We both like cars. Yeah, v8 ones, yep, yep, yeah Vehicles. Bull bars, kangaroos, winches, mate. It's all about the rig and how big it is.

Speaker 2:

That's very true. I've heard that before. Do you all have bears?

Speaker 3:

No, yeah, we do.

Speaker 1:

Drop bears. Oh, drop bears, true. What's a drop bear?

Speaker 3:

It's a koala that's been on acid for too long and it drops out of trees and kills you to steal your camping gear.

Speaker 1:

Drop bear true story.

Speaker 2:

I'll make a note of that. Next time we have an honoree bear on the property 400-pound black bear and it's in our orchard breaking trees to get to the pears and the apples we might have to intervene. We're out in the bogans and rednecks are out in the environment. Everybody not up in a hotel somewhere, or 19-foot story apartment complex.

Speaker 3:

I better rethink my hate towards our bandicoots over here, the little furry things that look actually quite cute and dig roots out of the ground. So yeah, your bear story is a little bit more severe than my bandicoot issue over here at the moment well so.

Speaker 1:

So back to team bogan, australia, when steve and I were doing our level two course. We've done level one and level two with enlifted coaches. We, we I think we just adopted that name because we did it together, which is quite unusual, husband and wife. I know it's been done before, but we did it together and we really took on that name, team Bogan, very proud of our heritage there. So for the audience that's listening, you might be wondering you know what is this Unlifted stuff? And I know you listen a lot, wondering you know what is this Unlifted stuff and I know you listen a lot everyone who listens to my podcasts. The topic is mostly about health and wellness and we go into the physical a lot. So today we're going to delve into the mental. All right and Mark, how this was born was a couple of years ago.

Speaker 1:

How I was introduced into the Unlifted method was I was listening to my very first podcast. I am now an avid podcast listener, but it started back with the Unlifted podcast. Even before that, an Instagram live with Unlifted. And I remember driving for those local listeners I was driving from Whitsundays to Mackay. For those that aren't local, it's about an hour and a half Perfect time to listen to podcasts and Instagram lives, and I came across this Instagram live with and lifted, listening to Mark work, people's stories, and what is burnt into my memory is driving along barely being able to see the road as tears just fell down my cheeks. So, as people talked about their stories and I really connected with that, so I got a special, special opportunity for the audience today to experience this for themselves. So that's how I was actually introduced to Unlifted. I then told my partner, steve, all about it and, of course, he jumped on board and I distinctly remember that time. It was quite magic. It was quite magic, which brings up a very special terminology that we have.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, with the other half of Team Bogan was a little bit of doubt, et cetera, but hey, let's jump in there. And then this really incredible word and Mark's going to take it from here which we've all been taught at school it's all hocus pocus and it's all about witches and warlocks. Now what's our special word, mate? And please explain it from the absolute start, because it's going to blow people's minds.

Speaker 2:

The magic word literally is abracadabra, and I have had the. It is, it's a privilege of. When did I start talking about that or when did I learn about it? I know I'm remembering when I learned about it, 2012 in Ecuador.

Speaker 2:

I was out to dinner with some friends and this the guy was at the other end of the table. He knew what I was into words and stories, helping people with them and he goes hey, man, you know what abracadabra means. And I'm over at the other end. I go yeah, yeah, yeah, magic. And he goes nope. He said, hey, man, you know what abracadabra means, and I'm over at the other end. I go yeah, yeah, yeah, magic. And he goes nope. He said come over here, and I did. And he told me the story of what abracadabra really means.

Speaker 2:

So abracadabra is Aramaic and it translates to with my word, I create, or with my word, I influence. And he told me about how the teachers of the day back in antiquity, they would triangulate abracadabra Look this up everybody because people think it means magic. They just go to magic and hocus, pocus and rabbits out of hats and some people think Steve Miller band that's cool Going to reach out and you know, rabbits Out of Hats and some people think Steve Miller band that's cool. You know, gonna reach out and grab you and they would triangulate abracadabra and wear it around their neck to remind them of the power and the mechanism of words, how important they are to use. Well, and that has been because they knew this is not rocket science, when you think about it.

Speaker 2:

If their words were working against them, also known as um if they were creating stories and telling themselves stories, which is mindset? That's what your mindset is, everybody. Your mindset is the story that you tell yourself. If you're using your words in a certain way to tell yourself a story that you're not good enough and you don't deserve to go to the gym, and why does everything have to be so much harder for me and why does everybody have it so much easier? She's controlling my life and I need him to respect me more and maybe I might make some progress one day if I put in a little more effort. I think. And and so what I just did? Right?

Speaker 2:

there is I, I, I created um, I used a bunch of conflict language and if I'm using my words like that and I'm telling myself a story like that, I have now lit my head on fire. My imagination is a dumpster fire and living my life is going to be harder than it has to be. Oh, by the way, my breath is going to be trapped in my chest because all of those statements will put me in a stress state, which means I'm not going to be fun to be around. Okay, and I'm not going to be a good listener. Someone's breath is trapped in their chest. They're an amygdala hijack, their listening skills tank and they're going to be very edgy, they're going to take things personally and they're going to talk themselves out of opportunity and the thing. That just goes on and on and on. And guess where that whole story, your mindset starts. Guess what your mindset is made of? It's made up of words and you can file everything that we're going to do in this podcast slash live workshop today. You can file it under important shit you didn't learn in school Because, well, I was a teacher.

Speaker 2:

I have a degree in education, I came up in the public school in the States and I have a degree in how to enforce it, and I didn't have one course, class or even conversation with either of those experiences on how to get my language working for me. So I'm talking myself into things. I'm saying things like, well, yeah, I don't have much experience in the gym and I'm really not in that great of shape, but I know if I go in there and I just keep showing up for the next three months, I'll get results. Or I need me to respect me more. Don't worry about her. I need me to respect me more.

Speaker 2:

And he's not trying to control my life. I'm trying to control my life. He's not trying to control my life. I'm trying to control my life. We'll get more into the words later, everyone. There's a way to make your life way harder and there's a way to make your life way easier, and it comes down to how you use your words. This is where mindset is going, everybody. I promise you. It's going down to what words to use less of and why, and what words to use more of and why, in order to dismantle the victim mentality, which I'll very likely share. The definition of. It's important and enjoy being you.

Speaker 3:

Why not, since we're here, being you.

Speaker 3:

You know why not, since we're here. Yeah, those um, it's so important. That part is of how to be you. You know, one of the um, one of the big things that I I talk with a lot of my um clients is the two most important words of the room, and it's I am. You know people forgot, people forget about those two important words is I am um.

Speaker 3:

Everyone else has been put in front, even you know, being a country kid from New Zealand living in Australia, we're pretty laid back kick back bogan redneck with more teeth, et cetera. But we always put most people first, whereas it's so important to put ourselves first, because with a good me, I get a good me, and so does everyone else. With a content me, I get a content me, and so does everyone else. With a content me, I get a content me, and and, the likes of, and, and and the flow-ons. Incredibly, um, it's very obvious once it actually becomes, you know, the elephant in the room when I start to address me. We've been taught to keep that um, keep your head down, son um, look after your mates and and and stick up for them. Well, you know what one of the greatest things I've ever done. Stick up for me.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know what One of the greatest things I've ever done is stick up for me. Yeah, yeah, for sure, which that dovetails perfectly into what we talked about earlier, before we started recording, and what we'll do in this podcast is most people have a black belt in dismissing and deflecting and minimizing compliments from other people. Okay, I mean, how? How many times have you heard someone say I'm really good at taking a compliment? No, it's almost always the exact opposite I'm terrible at taking a compliment, and you know what they're telling the truth because, like you just said, we've got this thing. We've got this idea that came from somewhere, that we want to be self.

Speaker 2:

It's good to be selfless and bad to be self-centered. Look at the words. We got them flipped around. It's good for me to be selfless, less than self. I'm going to minimize myself. I'm going to highlight my insecurities and the stuff that I'm not good at and I'm going to put myself down. I mean, you all see this in gym culture. It's very common. Well, maybe not in yours now, because you know about this stuff and people just people trauma, bond at the lowest common denominator and then we're going to teach that to our children by example. That's a great idea.

Speaker 2:

Versus being self-centered. No, I want to be self-centered, I want to be centered in myself, I want to be the center of my own story and I want my breath to be low and slow. There is a centering that happens when we learn about our words and our stories and dismantle the victim mentality and come out of these upregulated stress states and the breath begins to unlock and descend and get down to where it should be okay. And then and then also when it comes to you know, um, acknowledging you, giving you credit, being you know, taking care of you. When we do that, we start to unravel these weird under, under the current unspoken codependencies that we have with people, where we're afraid to take a compliment but we're also desperate for recognition at the same time. That's because we haven't done that for us in the only way that we can yourself a pat on the back and credit and letting you know that you're okay. That's one of the coolest and kindest things that you can do for people around you. Because what is that? That's you becoming okay with yourself and then you share that with everybody else.

Speaker 2:

I mean, is that what we want for our kids? Do you want your kids to Okay? So if people are having a hard time taking a compliment, which they are. What do you think they're doing in their head? They're trashing themselves on the reg. They're saying the most gnarly shit to themselves, trying to get a better result. How often does that work? And how often does that work well for the long term? And do you want your kids doing that? Do you want your kids talking to themselves like that Really? Why not your kids doing that? Do you want your kids talking themselves like that really?

Speaker 3:

why not? And isn't it, um, a part of society now that there's so many parents are living their lives through their kids? Oh, yeah, so they yeah, they've spent this time absolutely in their own heads beating themselves to death, but so they're going to live that. They're going to get their real life. They're going to and we're going to live it through our kids. And they drive them to every sports game and they do this and they do that and they put them up on a pedestal, and yet they still drink themselves stupid every weekend, fill themselves with coffee every Monday and they don't talk to themselves nicely, but they want the best for their kids. And it's what about the best for yourself? Because then your kids get the best you.

Speaker 2:

Very good one. I want the best for my kids. That's an interesting translation right there. Look at the words I want the best for my kids. I want the best for my kids. I want the best me for my kids. How about you put yourself in there? Because you think the quality, the version of you that you share with the family has an influence on your kids. You better believe it. We inherit our parents' breathing patterns, so I want and then from there the parent that you just described what they do on the weekends and they drive their kids around, and then they'll tell them dumb shit like you just need to believe in yourself more. No one ever has believed in themselves more because someone told them to believe in themselves more. That's worked exactly as many times as someone saying honey, you're overreacting and honey going. Wow, you're right. I never thought about it. Thanks for pointing that out. That's never happened either.

Speaker 3:

So Calm down. Wow, what was that? You just washed another cat. You dumbass. Yeah, you just put another cat in the club and you washed it. Because have you ever calmed down with being told to calm down? Nobody, but we keep saying it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, exactly don't be so hard on yourself. Oh wow, never thought to not do that, thanks stating the obvious.

Speaker 1:

You know, I don't know if, if this is something that you have in america, but you were talking before about how we, how we are, how we don't want to come across as self-centered. In Australia, we have the tall poppy syndrome. Have you heard of the tall poppy syndrome?

Speaker 2:

Is that similar to the tall nail syndrome in Japan? The nail that stands up the tallest gets whacked first. That's it mate yeah.

Speaker 1:

So in Australia, anyone who rises above the others through effort, through their own effort or it doesn't matter how they got there, but if they rise above, they get cut down. So Australia is extremely Australians that are listening, predominantly Australians. You know what I'm talking about. You know you don't want to rise above the pack because you don't want to be seen as as as being the tall poppy, because you know someone's going to cut you down at the knees. So that's what we're going to get into today how to get into yourself so that you can be proud to be one of the tall poppies in the field.

Speaker 3:

The irony of that here is, with so many social circles, we talk about how shit the government is. We talk about the negative side of these people that are bringing the tall poppy down. We then see it in our own circles of we do it, but then we know that it's actually wrong. We're not telling ourselves that, no, the tall poppy is okay, it's okay to be a poppy, because who's looked at a poppy, who's actually seen what a poppy is? It's beautiful, it's got a, it's it's very self-centered, it's got a nice, it's got a very straight stem and a beautiful petal. You know, we we talk ourselves out of it, but then we talk ourselves into it. You know this is that word conflict. We're talking about it's.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it's wrong conflict is a very good word there, um, and as you all, both as level two and lifted coaches and all the other stuff that you've done most people are stuck between the rock and a hard place. They're in conflict with themselves. They're they're in conflict with the bad stuff in their life, the negative things that have happened. They're not good with the bad stuff, and they're also in conflict with the good stuff, the good things that have happened, their quality traits. They have resistance to accepting that and that's a very that's got that stop and start syndrome written all over it. A very uncomfortable place to reside. And if you've got a little bit of courage and a pen and paper and some willpower and or someone and the knowledge to do it and or someone who knows how to do it both Leanne and Steve Bob do then you can get out of that trap, that conflict trap, and become comfortable in yourself.

Speaker 2:

Let's get this on the table and then we can go into what we talked about earlier, if y'all want to now or I can keep riffing. So let's talk about a metric that helps Everybody. Write this down. If you've got a pen and a paper and you're listening, write this down, not if you're driving, of course, insecure, confident and comfortable, insecure, confident and comfortable, insecure, confident and comfortable. Most people, when they start out with something, they're insecure about it. You know why? Because they have low confidence and low skill. They don't have imposter syndrome, they think they have imposter syndrome, they have beginner syndrome, something else, and they're looking at other people doing what they're just started doing and they're like oh they're so confident and she's so confident.

Speaker 2:

Man, if I could just get a little more confident, which you can if you put in the reps, because confidence builds with skill acquisition the better you get at something, the more confident you get at something. They go hand in hand and guess what, everybody and guess what. If you keep going, if you keep doing the reps, and you're also going to need to pay some more attention because this is a higher level play, pay attention to the words you're using, work on your mindset. You know how you work on your mindset. You use different words, the story that you tell yourself, use different words, create different stories and pay attention to your breathing. Most people aren't paying attention to their words or their breathing. There's a promised land, past, confident, and it's called comfort and if you do that, you're going to get past the tall poppy syndrome, because you're not going to be. You're not going to be. This is to be. This is what these three things look like.

Speaker 2:

Insecurity is a lot of stress and, like this, confidence yes, it's quote-unquote better and it's also got some tension and a little bit of stress response to it. So it's like this I'm puffed up and I'm confident. I'm tall and I'm bragging and I'm confident, I'm tall and I'm bragging. There's a difference between enjoying a compliment and needing a compliment. Confident people need compliments. There's the people that brag about stuff and they're like this and the breath is up here. If they keep going, the breath unlocks, they relax and they're in that promised land of comfort and show me the top 10 people at pick. It doesn't matter what. They're not confident, they're comfortable, they're relaxed and in the zone. And so if you want to bypass that tall poppy thing, cool, keep going, keep going and keep breathing and keep thinking about your thinking and you'll like what happens. Because because comfort is most people don't know that that's even an option. But but you gotta, you gotta become okay with yourself. That's the whole thing.

Speaker 3:

You gotta become okay in yourself a lot of the um I see with a lot of the clients and a lot of the people um out there with that um confidence, they actually get the word ego involved. So they've got a total misconception of the the word ego. Don't let ego get in the way, because once you're comfortable, you're comfortable in your own skin, you're comfortable doing what you do. You're very good at what you do. There's no ego involved. So you're comfortable doing what you do. You're very good at what you do. There's no ego involved. So you know, when they say, oh, you're arrogant or you're ego, I look at you. You know, back to that self-centered thing. It's mate, I'm bloody good at what I do because I've spent years doing it Exactly and I'm not egotistical, I'm just I'm very happy with what I do.

Speaker 3:

This is a great example yeah, they get this ego. You know the word ego. You know it's used totally in the wrong. You know again those words. They're wrong. Don't use ego when it comes to someone that's very good at what they do, because, mate, I don't walk around with my head out my ass, I just walk around with my confidence because I know I'm good at what I do.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, when you walk in your shop.

Speaker 3:

Are you confident or are you comfortable?

Speaker 2:

Comfortable nowadays mate.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

Do you remember day one Mate?

Speaker 1:

oh my goodness what did that feel like Actually?

Speaker 3:

keep going. What was that Sorry?

Speaker 1:

No, keep going. What did that feel like? Actually keep going.

Speaker 3:

What was that? Sorry, no, keep going. What did day one feel like? What did day feel like? Well, I remember I was a little short Stanley, with no friends. I actually had hair in the day. I didn't know which end of the broom to pick up. I panicked. I didn't know where all the bins were. I didn't know one end of a spanner to another. So it was just one of those things and I was just trying to please, to be happy, to be confident, to keep my job so I could earn my $4.50 an hour. You know I was killing it back in 1987, mate Nice, when do you remember getting confident?

Speaker 3:

It's quite interesting because being an apprentice mechanic, you get to do 8,000 hours, which is approximately four years to do your apprenticeship. I came out of my time in three years because I'd done 8,000 hours in three years. So I was 19. I was a tradesman. I had the piece of paper. I got 51% in my trade exam, so 51% is a pass. I don't care what anyone says.

Speaker 3:

I was happy to get that piece of paper because I'm now a tradesman. I went to $9 an hour, didn't even quite break the double digits. And then I spent another two years in that workshop in New Zealand. So I'm now five years into my trade and then I came to Australia and about three years later I think, I actually became confident and had a little comfort. So even though I'd done my time and I'd done another two years and I'd done another two years, it was years later, years of reps, years of learning, years of actually understanding what I was doing. So it was the comprehension of working out what I was doing before I'd become comfortable. So I would have said, you know, eight years it took me to be very comfortable in my job.

Speaker 2:

Feels good, huh.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah. And now you know, 20 years later, in my own business, um, you know it all makes sense. You know that's it's. It's not something that happens overnight, it's not something that can be taught immediately. You know, look at all those years that bloody manufacturing plant called school. You know most kids go through 12 years of bullshit. What did they learn? Very little. What were they told? Lots, you know they had it not decent to them, but if they didn't comply and understand what was being thrown at them, they failed, whereas we were never taught the correct use of our words.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you want to celebrate some progress.

Speaker 3:

Go on, Lee. I like progress.

Speaker 2:

Cool, I like progress too. So again, everybody. I don't make the rules and, oddly enough, people need some help taking a compliment. People need some help. They need a tool, steve Bob. They need a tool to help them generate gratitude, because, guess what? Half sentences don't cut it. That's why you can watch somebody say to someone else if they're in, like a workshop or something, name three things you're grateful for and they'll go my family, my friends and my job. And that's not enough. You're smiling and nodding, leanne. Why are you smiling and nodding? Have you ever seen that?

Speaker 1:

I see it all the time. It's the inflection in your voice because you turned that which, if you were grateful for something truly grateful, it would be a statement, a strong statement. You turned that into a question by the inflection in your voice.

Speaker 2:

At the end, good catch, and that's what usually happens when someone answers a question like that or tries to try, tries to create some gratitude. No, what would you actually need is a better piece of evidence than three half sentences, and that's what we're going to do today. We're going to do something and everybody can do this. It's here, well. Well, here's what it's not. It's not rocket science, the title of so Leanne is going to do this exercise and Steve Bob is going to do this exercise. Leanne is going to do this exercise on her, uh, uh. The podcast. Okay, it's called celebrating the progress. Everybody write that down, celebrating the progress. And Steve Bob is going to do his on being alcohol free for over a year.

Speaker 2:

Okay, and while there, I'm going to teach and coach at the same time, while we're doing this, what we're going to do for celebrating the progress. Both of them are going to do the same exact thing. They're going to do something called four-stepping the story. Ask any Enlifted coach about four-stepping and they're very well versed in it because it is, at the same time, the crown jewel of the enlifted method and the Swiss army tool. There's four steps. That's why it's called four stepping and we're going to go through it and I'm going to explain it as you go, as we go, and at the end of this podcast slash workshop, you're going to have a tool that will help you tremendously.

Speaker 2:

Give yourself some well-deserved credit, okay, and celebrate some of your progress if you want to. Well, only if you want to feel better about yourself, because guess what Newsflash everybody Beating the hell out of yourself in your mind relentlessly is. That's not going to get you where you want to go, or at least you're not going to enjoy the ride and or the destination. Okay, so it's A to B, a to B. What would you title the progress that you've made? So the first podcast to the last podcast, what would you give that story? 100%. I've already thought of this when you first mentioned it. What would you? What would you tie it? What would you?

Speaker 1:

give that? What title would you give that story? Uh, 100%, I've already thought of this. When you first mentioned, it covered to riffing with my mentors.

Speaker 2:

Perfect. Write that down and then write out conversational writing. This is very important. I'm going to get her going and then I'm gonna move to Steve Bob, title that and write out this is very important. I'm going to get her going and then I'm going to move to Steve Bob, title that and write out two to three paragraphs Leanne Conversational writing. So it's writing as if you're talking full sentences with punctuation. Write out what happened. Write out what happened. Write out what happened, why it happened, what you thought, what you felt. Two to three paragraphs.

Speaker 3:

So, steve, steve, bob, what would you call? What do you want to title your progress? The no future in the brown bottle?

Speaker 2:

Cool, so write that down.

Speaker 1:

You want to give it a title. Everybody, If you can all hear the scribbling through the microphone, that's Steve and I furiously writing, because this is part of the magic. Guys Pick up that pen and Mark can tell you how heavy that pen is while we're writing.

Speaker 2:

It's, at the same time, the easiest thing in the world to do Pick up the pen and write the words out and, at the same time, the easiest thing in the world not to do. You want me to write that story out. Story out, whether it's a scary story from back in your past, or some progress that we're celebrating now, or a win, whatever it is Okay. It could feel like it weighs 600 pounds, and so, steve, same thing. Two to three paragraphs.

Speaker 3:

It's actually quite interesting just reading what I've written um a part of I'm not going to be a spoiler here, but part of this I actually um inspired. I work with will will corbett. He's one of the most beautiful humans in the world. He came to me by accident well, not by accident by the universe brought him to my, my workshop, about two and a half three years ago. I was, uh, will had had a mining accident. He was to be rehabilitated for a week. So if you like the job and he hasn't left I must be a good cook or something I don't know. We cook, we. We have a weekly cook up.

Speaker 3:

So will and I decided to do this. Um, it's it's very important that I did it, but I um inspired will to do it as well. So not only have I changed my life, but I've actually changed other people's lives. So I just I never really recognised that with my stop of drinking that's changed my life and I'm happy with it. But I've actually inspired someone else to do it as well, and his life's changed for the better as well. So actually just writing it down, I'd have really never thought of that, but now I've written it, I've seen it.

Speaker 2:

Look at what he just said. Everybody. So I'll put this, and you can also take four-stepping and use it with goals. Okay, what do you want to do? Well, I want to open my own shop, or open my own gym, or travel overseas or run a marathon, whatever it is, and you can write out the story of you doing it and four-step it, and I'll put this technique for that and also giving people credit.

Speaker 2:

I'll put it up against anything out there, because you get both. You get both. What do I mean by both? You get the words and you get the emotion, you get the seeing and you get the feeling. So the words, that's the feeling, so the words, that's the imagination. Okay, that's what you see.

Speaker 2:

Seeing is believing. And the breath, which is going to make sense here when we get into step three and four, that's the feeling. Feeling is knowing, seeing is believing, feeling is knowing, and you get both of this with your own pen and paper. I've been in this game professionally over 17 years and in the three years I studied prior to that to start, and I haven't seen all that much with guided visualizations and things like that. It's other people's words trying to no, no, no, your words, your words, oh, and guess what? Everybody, since we're talking about that and we're talking about celebrating progress, guess what else we're going to do today? Enlifted affirmations. We're going to get some affirmations out of these wins and we're going to talk about why affirmations are very real and cool and most of the time, they miss the mark, they fail, or people say things like I don't feel it, and they're telling the truth. There's a reason why that is and what you need to have in place if you want them to land, which is what we're doing right now.

Speaker 2:

Another way of saying that is we're gathering evidence and presenting. We're going to present some evidence. Leanne is going to present evidence to Leanne that she's done a damn good job. And guess what? Steve Bob is going to present some evidence to Steve Bob that he's done a damn good job. And a half sentence wouldn't? That's not. That's not. There's nothing evident about that. It needs to be be, it needs to. You need to have about two to two to three paragraphs and and conversational writing, so writing as if you were telling the story to someone. Because guess what? You are telling the story to someone. You're telling the story to you and man, oh, man, I mean yeah, go ahead sorry.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, last last night I ran a um an ar workshop with some friends in new zealand, um the St Johns, and I'm only hoping that they are listening to this one today as well. Just a very, very small workshop. And when I asked who could celebrate a win for the day, who could tell me something good happened, there were very little hands put up. And yet when I asked if anyone could tell me about someone pulling out in front of them or you know something bad, and there was quite a common thing that, yeah, everyone could look at what had not gone well, but they hadn't celebrated any wins for the day. But these guys are paramedics. They've saved lives all day. They've forgotten what they do and it's not a shun on them, it's just mate.

Speaker 3:

These guys are incredible. These guys are lifesavers. They save our lives. Without these people, we would be dying on the streets. And yet again, society has taught us not to celebrate our wins. These guys are legends. They're not football players no disrespect to football players, but paying some wanker a million dollars a year to run into another bloke for six months does not make sense. Our police and our ambulance officers and our medics and our doctors are paid, in my opinion, a pittance to save our lives. And yet these guys weren't the system's not giving them the tools to pick up on how important they are.

Speaker 1:

Fund the police, fund the teachers.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely.

Speaker 2:

Fund the paramedics and EMTs.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, get it going. You know the modern-day Coliseum, the TV and the sport mate. It's taken an absolute. You know that's the middle of it. What are we going to do at the end of footy season? I don't know, try living. I don't know, that's up to you. Get outside, grow a garden, mow your own lawns. I don't know, give it a go, try life.

Speaker 2:

Give it a go. It's I haven't. Yeah, australians Very cool, leanne, are you still?

Speaker 3:

writing. You said three or four paragraphs. Man, she's on page three. What's going on here?

Speaker 1:

There's just big writing. I have big writing, okay, cool, so are you still writing?

Speaker 2:

Leanne, are you still writing? Yes, you Please. If you're still writing, keep writing. It's great. One more minute, one more minute.

Speaker 1:

One more minute.

Speaker 3:

One more minute. Okay, that means you and I can shoot the breeze buddy.

Speaker 2:

How about this? Let's run yours. So, Steve, you wrote that out.

Speaker 3:

I sure did bud Okay cool.

Speaker 2:

Everybody. Step one title the story and write it out conversationally. I repeat myself a lot. I do it on purpose Write out the story conversationally, erring on the side of more detail than less. Okay, full sentences with punctuation. Done, steve's done it and Leanne is finishing up. Step two it's so complicated.

Speaker 3:

Wow, steve, go ahead and read what you wrote, buddy. Okay, my title was no Future in the Brown Bottle. On Ben's 15th birthday at Northern Nats, will and I had a yarn and decided to give up drinking booze to see how it went. We did dry July, and then the months kept going and going and going. I have not had a drink since then and it changed my life. I love it.

Speaker 2:

Fantastic. What kind of feeling does this create, Steve?

Speaker 3:

Oh, happiness Reading that story. I can go to all my two seconds of memories and go. I remember that, I remember that, I remember that, I remember that and it just makes you feel good. I'm a role model for my kids. I can pick them up any time of the night. I'm sober when I'm talking to my clients. I have no chemical imbalance. I've lost weight. I have more energy. But yeah, other than that, yeah, it's been okay, I guess.

Speaker 2:

Very cool, and he already said three or four very cool things. So right now I'm about to ask him the greatest of all time coaching question. So what does that mean about you, steve? And write down your answers, buddy, because these are your affirmations, these are real affirmations, his words from his story. So that's the reason, everybody. One of the main reasons that affirmations don't land is because people don't have any reason to believe them. Where's the evidence that validates the existence of these affirmations? I'm good enough, people support me, things are going well. Yeah, where's the proof? No, what you want to do is you want to get the proof first and pull the affirmations out of it. The win, the, the, the, the progress, that's the proof that's got to come first, and then, after that, it's super easy to believe the statements. So what, what was the first? What, what first? What does that mean about you?

Speaker 3:

I'm committed. When I say I'm committed, I'm committed.

Speaker 2:

Okay, write that down. I'm committed. Let's get this. I'm going to push on this. What else does it mean about you? So make the statement and then write it down.

Speaker 3:

I make change, I make my change.

Speaker 2:

Nice, write that down. What else does it mean about you?

Speaker 3:

I am loyal to me Nice.

Speaker 2:

Nice. What else does it mean?

Speaker 3:

I love the new me.

Speaker 2:

Perfect. Anything else come to mind?

Speaker 3:

Pretty much With this and with a lot of things I do. I use myself as an example. If I choose to do something, I can.

Speaker 2:

Okay, leanne, you're up, I'll be back, steve Bob.

Speaker 1:

All right, here it goes, goes. I like a good story. You know that mark my first. My first podcast started in my friend's cupboard. I didn't have enough a reception or enough internet in my own house, so off I went with my table, my microphone, my laptop which I'd barely just learned to use, mind you and sat in my friend's cupboard sweating, shaking and questioning life's decisions. So every cell in my body resisted. I cringed at the sound of my own voice. My words were stilted, I was sweating and internally rolling my eyes at myself. The thought kept going through my head Leanne, who are you to sit here and tell your stories? You sound so bogan. This isn't going to go over. Well, will anyone even listen to me, to this? And why am I doing this?

Speaker 1:

Each podcast I lived by the mantra start and keep going. Think of teaching a snatch. I said to myself. No one gets it on the first, second, third or even 50th time. Second, third or even 50th time. So consider the podcast that Just keep going. Often I would think this is my last one. And I kept turning up. I put out the episodes. I booted. I'm trying to. I booked, can't even read my own writing. I booked guests and each time I spoke my breath unlocked. I underthought it and progressed to Starlink in my own bedroom. Over time, I got to interview some of my long-term mentors John Russon, greg Everett, jeremy from RomFit and as I talked to them I realised I was relaxed. I was asking curious questions and I was actually enjoying it and here's a big one. I listened back and was comfortable with my own voice great job.

Speaker 2:

Describe the vibe leanne. What is that? What kind of feeling does that story create? What kind of feeling does that story create?

Speaker 1:

What kind of energy does that create A sense of accomplishment and pride?

Speaker 2:

Same question that I asked Steve Bob. It's the greatest of all time coaching question. What does this mean about you?

Speaker 2:

And there's going to be more than one answer, so we'll do the same thing that Steve did. Tell me one thing that it means about you and then of this, everybody if you have an affirmation practice and you want it to land Her words coming from her stories not somebody with a book from Sedona, arizona, and a crystal and you've got to repeat it for 108 days until it finally sinks into your subconscious mind no, if that's what they're telling you to do, those words are not for you or the setup is just whack.

Speaker 1:

All right, you ready, born ready, I am brave. Next, keep going. Yeah, I'm writing down, I can do hard things. I do hard things catch yep exactly next I am an expert next I am a fantastic coach awesome.

Speaker 1:

How much easier is it for you to believe those sentences, leanne, because you've got the, the piece of evidence there first 100 easier because I have, I can see the words and they're not just whirling around in my head as a draft, because when things swirl around in your head, you can change them a million times even as you're saying them, but they're written down concretely on paper so they're much more believable.

Speaker 2:

Very cool. Same question for you, steve Bob. How much easier is it for you to believe those sentences because you've got the proof first. You've got the proof. So what does this proof mean? Oh, it means these things. How much easier is it for you to say those things about yourself?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's 100%. I liken it to going to a T intersection and either turning left or right, because now I've written it down. So if you turn right it's a cul-de-sac, you go nowhere. But I can turn left and I can see my words and I know that I'm going. You know I'm going to turn left and that's where I travel. Or I could go to a roundabout. I could keep the words in my head. I could have those words swirling around, I could have six different exits with those words and not know which one to take.

Speaker 2:

But now that I've written down, I turn my words. I really like how he said that I have seen my words. Alan Watts, the greatest Zen teacher the West will ever have ever had and will ever have, he said when you learn to think about your thinking, you become alive in a new way. I'm going to say that again when you learn to think about your thinking, you become alive in a new way. Most people are not thinking about their thinking. There's just thinking and there's a big difference. And it is such a wild ride, it's almost psychedelic, to pay close attention to the words that you use in your mind, the words that come out of your mouth, the words that you write. God could come down and say you know what? That's actually the ultimate awareness practice, and I'd say, yeah, it makes sense. I don't know if it is, but it's got to be up there.

Speaker 2:

So step one title it, write it out, check. Step two read it regular speed and ask yourself at the end what does this mean about me? You're going to get answers because you've got the proof, the evidence there, right there. Step three so, steve, you know what's coming. Slow read, buddy. So same story. Slow it down by 30%. Again, I don't make the rules. We've run all the split tests. It's 70% of your normal rate of speech. What happens when you slow down a story? Everybody Glad y'all asked? The breath begins to loosen up. And what does that do? It helps everything sink in. So same story, steve 30%. Slower, slow read.

Speaker 3:

Step three On Ben's 15th birthday at Northern Nats Will and I had a yarn and decided to give up drinking booze to see how it went. We did dry July and the months kept going and going, and going. I have not had a drink since then and it's changed my life. I love it.

Speaker 2:

What happened when you slowed it down?

Speaker 3:

You get to look at your sentence, you get to see your sentence in a different light and you actually get breath in and at the end of it you can actually breathe out as you're speaking and it actually helps you make sense of what you've written. Nice.

Speaker 2:

Again, everybody, this is a tool that helps you. It helps. It helps you get into the story. It helps you look at the words, it helps you reflect. It helps you accept when, if you, if you can't accept the good parts of you, I mean self-accepting, self-acceptance. We hear that a lot. Okay, well, good, great. I understand the value of it and I also understand the dangers of not doing it. How do I do it? I got the memo on. It's important. How do I do it? Oh, you just be more self-accepting. That's like telling someone you're overreacting, we're back to there again. No, you need a tool. It's like how many tools do you have in your shop, steve? A lot. Why? Because you need those things to build the cars. Same thing you need tools to architect a story that works for you and most people's language is working against them. Like I've been barking about for 17 years now and the momentum with this conversation is absolutely picking up. It's very exciting. Leanne. Step three slow read, 30% slower. See what happens.

Speaker 1:

My first podcast started in my friend's cupboard. I didn't have enough reception at my house, so off I went with my table, microphone, laptop. My first episodes were solos. Every cell in my body resisted. I cringed at the sound of my own voice. My words were stilted. I was sweating and internally rolling my eyes. The thought kept going through my head Leanne, who are you to tell your stories? You sound so bogan. This isn't going to go over well, will anyone even listen? Why am I doing this? Each podcast I lived by the mantra start and keep going. Think of teaching a snatch. No one gets it. For the first second or, and each time I spoke my breath unlocked, I underthought it and progressed to Starlink in my own bedroom. Over time I got to interview Sorry, my words are very, very messy interview some long-term mentors John Russon, greg Everett, jeremy from RomFit and as I talked to them I realised I was relaxed, was asking curious questions and was actually enjoying the process and here's a big one. I even listened back and was comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 2:

Great job, great pace, great job keeping that pace. What happened when you slowed it down?

Speaker 1:

It gave me the opportunity to see how far I have come, instead of when I read it fast. Yeah, in theory I could see. Yeah, I've come a long way from the cupboard to sitting here with my breath low and slow, talking to people that I've, you know, admired for 15 years and learnt a lot from. But as I slowed my words down, it really hits home. So you get a lot more clarity and understanding and insight.

Speaker 2:

Perfectly well said, being able to adjust the rate of the story. Everybody is so important. It's so important. The faster the story goes, the harder it is to change. Take that to the bank and then the flip side of that is, the fastest way to slow the story down is to write it down. We think faster than we can talk and we talk faster than we can write. So if you want to slow the thing down, it's like how often do you take one of your hot rods out to the highway and pin it at 80 and start changing parts? You got to bring it into the shop. Stop it, look at it, change some things out.

Speaker 2:

If you want to do that with your story, you need to stop the story and change out words. It's no different. Step one title it. Write it out. Check. Step two read it regular speed At the end ask what does this mean about me? Step three read it slow, 30% slower than your normal rate of speech. Step four is where you read it slow. So it's step three and then a breath in between at the end of each sentence and it's a full inhale in, just like this, and a full exhale out, just like that, and then on to the next sentence. So, steve bob, read them and breathe. Buddy, nice and slow read, get the breath in there.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna breathe with you on ben's 15th birthday at northern nets, at Northern Nats, will and I had a yarn and decided to give up drinking booze To see how it went. We did dry July.

Speaker 2:

Great pace, great breathing.

Speaker 3:

And the months kept going and going and going. I have not had a drink since and it has changed my life.

Speaker 2:

I love it.

Speaker 3:

Great job what happened when you got the breath in there, Steve Bob, it puts it in slow motion. It actually you become a part of the story. Your words actually do start to become you, Instead of just being a ramble that your emotion tells yourself. You're actually reading it as you. This is what I have done.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you want to slow down the story so you can get into it. Everybody.

Speaker 3:

This is now my story. It's not my ramble. This is my story, these are my words and this is what I have done. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

What's the difference between doing what you're doing right now and bragging?

Speaker 3:

I'm affirming a comfortable story that I wrote, and so I'm the writer and I'm the director and I'm actually the main actor in my story. So I'm telling myself how good a job I've done. I haven't let any ego or any brag rights come in. This is this is. This is something I've done and this is something I'm going to do. That's the big difference.

Speaker 2:

Bragging isn't bragging. If you're comfortable with the facts, okay, that's stating the facts. Bragging, that's got an elevated ego to it, that's got an elevated energy, that's got an I'm up here, you're down here, type thing. This is completely different. It is completely different.

Speaker 3:

I'm not telling everyone to give up drinking and I'm not lecturing people. I'm telling people what I've done and what it's done for me and then, like I said earlier in the piece, it people what I've done and what it's done for me. And then, like I said earlier in the piece, it's what I've done and what it's done for me, so that I was number one and now moving forward, what it's done for my friends, my family, my wife, my children of me giving up drinking, but first and all me giving up drinking. It was the most important thing, was me, how it changed me to be that better person.

Speaker 2:

I know cool is an opinion, ann. That's very cool, leanne. You're up Step four. Read it slow with breath. Take a nice smooth inhale and let all the air out. If someone skimps a little bit on the breath, it's usually on the exhale.

Speaker 2:

So let yourself take a nice smooth inhale and let all the air come out nice and smooth, and so you just, it's like a massage, you become comfortable with the cool thing that you've done. And when you become comfortable with the cool thing, and then things that you've done, you become comfortable with yourself and that, right there, that's people's favorite person. Nobody says, oh, you got to meet my favorite person in the world. You can't even be around them, you can't say anything. They're always on edge. They're, they're, they're easy, they're just yeah, no, it's like, oh, they're, they're so easy to be around. Well, why is that? Because Because they're to the degree that they are comfortable in their own skin with themselves. That's the point. It's a gift to everybody, everybody. Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 1:

My first podcast started in my friend's cupboard. In my friend's cupboard. I didn't have enough reception at my house, so off I went with my table, microphone and laptop. My first few episodes were solos. Every cell in my body resisted. I cringed at the sound of my own voice. My words were stilted. I was sweating and internally rolling my eyes. The thought kept going through my head Leanne, who are you to tell your stories? You sound so bogan. This isn't going to go over. Well, will anyone even listen? Why am I doing this?

Speaker 1:

Each episode I lived by the mantra start and keep going. Think of teaching a snatch. No one gets it. On the first, second or even 50th lesson. Keep going. Often I would think this is my last one and I kept turning up. I put out the episodes, booked guests and each time I spoke my breath unlocked. I under-thought it and progressed to Starlink in my own bedroom. Over time I got to interview some of my long-term mentors john russon, greg everett, jeremy from romfit, jeremy from RomFit and as I talked to them I realised I was relaxed, was asking curious questions and was actually enjoying it. And here's a big one. I listened back and was comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 2:

I forgot to do this with you, steve. Read your affirmations one after another, with a breath in between each one.

Speaker 1:

Do you want Steve to do that now or me you?

Speaker 2:

Leanne, then we'll get Steve.

Speaker 1:

I am brave, I do hard things.

Speaker 2:

I do hard things. Read that I do hard things. It went up at the end I do hard things.

Speaker 1:

I do hard things.

Speaker 2:

Nice Felt different huh. Yeah, I am an expert, nice, good delivery.

Speaker 1:

I am a fantastic coach, nice describe the vibe leanne and for those that can't the audience can't see my face and, as usual, I have a smile on my face because a lot of those words and stories were just that stories that I had created to try and sabotage something that I'm getting better at each day and I'm going to be fantastic at. So what I feel is extremely grateful for myself? Yep.

Speaker 2:

And is that what you want your children to feel? 100% yeah, and guess what parents Do it first. You go first.

Speaker 3:

A lot of our my story was quite short and Leanne's was quite long and a lot of the people. When they get to do that fourth step, it's going to take me so long to do. I've got to breathe through it. Man, you've been alive this long. It's not long at all, it's about three minutes. It's a grain of salt in a frigging 44, mate, just let's breathe through it. I don't mind if it's four pages long. It's now out. It feels good. It's going to take too long out. And guess what? It feels good. Yeah, it's going to take too long. Man, you've been alive for 47 years. You're doing fine.

Speaker 2:

Leanne read that last sentence of the paragraph, so not the affirmations Read that last sentence.

Speaker 1:

And here's a big one. I listened back and was comfortable with my own voice scratch out, and this is a big one. Scratch that out now, read it I listened back and was comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 2:

Listened back and was comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 1:

Listened back and Scratch out listened back and I was comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 3:

Take out was put in am. I knew where you were going, Me too.

Speaker 1:

but this is the master teacher. We're catching him. I'm just excited. I am comfortable with my own voice.

Speaker 2:

Take out my own voice and put in me.

Speaker 1:

I am comfortable with me, me.

Speaker 2:

I am comfortable with me. I am comfortable in me. That's the point, everybody. That's the point. How many I mean. How good does it feel to be comfortable in your own skin? You'll breathe well.

Speaker 2:

Every single part of your body works way better when you're downregulated, and in your parasympathetic nerves and just the whole thing, the whole thing. The two most commonly purchased over-the-counter medications in the United States are indigestion medication and constipation medication, and that's because people's stories are wrecked in their head and their breath is trapped in their chest. And when your breath is chronically trapped in their chest, you're not going to digest your food and you're not going to do-do all that great either. And there's 19 other things. So I just I mean, I've been listening to there's a lot of podcasts, people on big shows right now talking about the medical industrial complex in the United States Pfizer, anyone and just how they have built their industry off chronic stress responses in people, upregulated stress states, and then you know you come in and you get a label and a symptom and you walk out with meds and stories.

Speaker 1:

Hand in a paper is much less. It's a lot cheaper, guys. For a start, it's simple. You can do it in your own bedroom or cupboard or wherever you may be, and you know natural the whole thing. We're here for holistic health and wellness. That's what this podcast is all about, and these tools are free.

Speaker 2:

Exactly. And you didn't need a doctorate to learn how to use your words. And you don't need a doctorate to change your words. You didn't need a doctorate to create the story of whatever happened when you were a child that still bothers you today. And you don't need a doctorate to pick up a pen and go in there and write the story out and get some air in there and change some words. You don't need a doctorate to celebrate your wins. You don't need a doctorate to take out soft talk. Well, I think I might need to. No, I need to take out, need put an end. I am going to. There's an art and a science to talking yourself into stuff. There's an art and a science of talking yourself out of stuff. Steve Bob, read your affirmations please, with breath. Read your affirmations.

Speaker 2:

please, with breath I am committed, say that one again and read it like this. So it went, bum, bum, bum, bum, bum and went. I am committed, read it smooth and flat.

Speaker 3:

I'm committed, I'm committed. Nailed it. I make my change. I make my change. I am loyal to me, I am loyal to me and I'm going to change my last sentence I love me.

Speaker 2:

Yep, that's exactly what we're going to do. That's exactly what we're going to do, and I love it. That was the last sentence in his story and we were going to change the it to me, students of the game, everybody right there, just like me.

Speaker 3:

I'm a student of this game and so are they. It's actually very interesting, having been two years so far, the amount of times I actually stop and pick myself up to change something One of the greatest things, and a lot of people wouldn't have picked up on Lee's story. But there's no more buts. You know I do this, but it doesn't. You know we change the but to and because the but is the total undoing of the first part of the story. You know, I really like your hair, but it could be longer. You know a lot of our words have just changed naturally. Now we don't even have to think about how we change our words, which is again the start of the apprenticeship. You know we're two years into. You know, as a mechanic I was eight years before I actually believe I became a decent tradesman. So bring on the next six years. I'm excited, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

How'd we do.

Speaker 3:

Loved it.

Speaker 1:

Fantastic and for people that are listening for the audience and for people that are listening for the audience. It's such a simple, no-nonsense approach and this is what I wanted for this podcast. I wanted it to be hands-on. I wanted you guys to hear we could sit here all day and talk about words, stories and breath and how it has influenced us, or the mechanics behind it or the science behind it, because that is a really big thing in the podcast world. Now I know because I'm an expert podcast listener. I like to say that Little badge of honour there, I do enjoy podcasts so much. People get into the science of things. What I wanted for this podcast and I believe we achieved it, we nailed it was the feeling, the feeling of the method. How does that make you feel? Because if we can get results and feel better, we've nailed it. So, everyone, if you've played a lot, if you've gone along, done what Steve and I have done here yourselves as you were listening, and you feel better, then our job is done, thank you.

Speaker 3:

Well, our job has just begun to do more. You know, a wise man once said people will pay not to do this. Do you know who that wise person was? My friend, do you know who said that? Yeah, and we see it regularly. A lot of people get a little micro from old Steve Bob at the workshop and they'll come in and they'll be flustered, and you know. Then I sit them down, I get their breath back into routine, et cetera. So what's the real problem? And some people go away and I never see them again. And yet some people it takes a while for that to to slowly seep into their thought pattern oh, this man's onto something. And then they come back, or they ask more questions, or you know it's not immediate. And, like you say, mark, people pay not to do this. You go in, you go up, you go down. It sucks ass, but when you come out the other side mate, it's a new day.

Speaker 1:

One thing I'd like to focus in on here is you. The audience has witnessed how this has helped Steve and I personally, and one step up from that, professionally. I know there's a lot of coaches that are listening. Okay, so I've been coaching in the physical realm gymnastics, weightlifting. I was also a PE teacher for over 35 years now. Okay, the piece that really up leveled my or uplifted my ability to be a great coach is the mindset piece. So, thinking about that mark, uh, where do people go? Where do coaches go? Where do people go to to learn more? We we might have coaches that want to upskill their coaching so to take their client to that, to that next level. Because, as this podcast is called, strong body Body, strong Mind, you can't separate. You don't separate the two and that's a negation. The two go hand in hand. So where do they go to learn more about this method? Tell us about that.

Speaker 2:

At Enlifted Coaches. That's our Instagram. Give us a follow. We'll send you a personal voicemail. I do it in batches every two weeks or so For the certifications. Our website enliftedme and we have a podcast as well. It's called Get Enlifted and it's coaches talking about it was me, myself and Kimberly. Right now it's in the third season. We might change ited and it's just it's coaches talking about. It was me, myself and Kimberly. Right now it's in the third season. We might change it up, but it's. It's her show. She's great and it's we're just talking about this stuff in all the different forms and fashions words and stories and breath. We have a lot of coaches that listen to that. We have a lot of people that are into getting better. If you want to get better, make your story better, use better words. Rocket science.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. To finish off in true Mark England style, if you go back and listen to a few of the podcasts, some Instagram lives I'm not even sure they're available anymore, but Mark's got a great way of finishing some of his lives and podcasts off with a strong statement. So, mark, this is the way we're going to do it today. I'm calling the shots, do it, victim mentality definition and we're out.

Speaker 2:

The victim mentality is an acquired personality trait where a person tends to regard himself or herself as the victim of the negative actions of others, even in the absence of clear evidence. The victim mentality depends on a habitual thought process and attributions.

Speaker 1:

Beauty Bonza mate. See you later, guys. Goodbye.