From Missed Lifts to Mastery: Unlocking Powerlifting Potential

Today’s conversation revolves around our journey into the world of powerlifting as we prepare for our first competition. We discuss techniques, training strategies, and the importance of lifting with proper form, while sharing our personal goals and experiences with the sport. 

• Reflecting on our first powerlifting competition experience 
• Committing to future competitions and the Gods of Iron event 
• Importance of training programs like Lift Big, Eat Big 
• Understanding age and weight classification in powerlifting 
• The role of proper technique and mindset in lifting 
• Emphasizing camaraderie in the powerlifting community 
• Importance of mental resilience in achieving fitness goals

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Transcript

Powerlifting Competition Preparation and Sponsorship

Speaker 1 0:00

Welcome to Dad, bods and Dumbbells. My name is Mitch.

Speaker 2 0:02

Hey, I'm Bart.

Speaker 1 0:04

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Speaker 1 0:14

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Oh, man, I can't wait to try it. I've been trying literally everything and solutions. Rx will be my solution in the future and I'm thankful for that. Thank you guys. All right, uh, and also, as our power lifting journey continues, we are building growth, strength. We're trying to eat right and our solution is found with lift big, eat big, and we find our programs to get our power lifting to where it needs to be, our numbers to where they need to be. From that, thank you, james and mona who run lift big eat. If you are in that same boat where you just want to get a better fitness lifestyle, maybe you just want some solutions. They have of all ages, shapes, sizes, anybody that's trying to start their fitness journey. Check out liftbigeatbigcom.

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Speaker 1 2:31

So I highly recommend it, especially the creatine, and I know you can't see bart right now, but he is jacked, he is yoked, so check it out lift big, eat bigcom. Thanks guys, enjoy the show. Awesome, all right, let's talk man. Well, we went to a powerlifting competition. We kind of did well. Uh, we got to see the tail end of things.

Speaker 2 2:44

So my buddy, my buddy Darren, and I went and worked out. Mitch was with his family doing dad stuff with this kid.

Speaker 1 2:51

We were cleaning the house. Oh, that's it Really. We were doing chores. God, you're lame, all right.

Speaker 2 2:57

Anyway, and then we met up for a little barbecue because we were hungry after the workout.

Speaker 1 3:00

It was great, I was not. I'd already eaten, yeah, you after the workout.

Speaker 2 3:03

It was great, I was not. I had already eaten. Yeah, you'd already eaten, but then we go. Okay, it's about 1.15.

Speaker 1 3:07

Let's head over to the powerlifting show Because it was scheduled between 10. 8 and 5. 8 and 5.

Speaker 2 3:12

I was like we got all day. We're going to pop in at 1.30.

Speaker 1 3:17

It's going to be great we don't get there too early literally they're cleaning up, racking all the way, yeah, and it was like, uh, it was like that moment in uh, your, your stress, dreams where you're, uh, your tg come in and everybody's cleaning up and you miss the race, you miss the school.

Speaker 2 3:34

That's exactly. It was like I missed the uh I would show up at, like the theater and there isn't. Like I either didn't know my lines and I had to go on or I missed the show.

Speaker 1 3:43

The show, the. The play was over. Like all those programs are strewn all over the floor that are all revved up.

Speaker 2 3:48

Yeah, that's how it was, and we walked in and we got to chat with like all the powerlifting coaches and owners and all that.

Speaker 1 3:54

People that had competed. We got to see a little bit about what they do. Super cool company it's.

Speaker 2 4:00

Kodak Strength Kodiak.

Speaker 1 4:00

Kodiak. Sorry about that, kodiak, they're not a sponsor, but they will be soon, and ultimately, it was really cool to meet everybody and get a feel for what competition looks like. We are then committed to July 19th.

Speaker 2 4:13

Yeah, so we've been looking for a local show or a local event meet, I guess, would be the best way to say it. So they were talking about they have gods of iron.

Speaker 1 4:24

That's perfect for me. Gods, you are a greek god my friend, uh, gods of iron.

Speaker 2 4:29

Uh yeah, july 19th. So unless something pops, up and like yeah because I got, I've got a couple of vacation. You know june things around schedule around it, bro. That's great, but this is the beauty of powerlifting this I don't have to be four percent body. Yeah, like I can't. This is as long as I get my workout days in, if you look bloated, it's better I think, is what I found. Yeah, the more you weigh this, like I looked around, it was only the ladies.

Speaker 1 4:54

That were all trimmed.

Speaker 2 4:55

The guys are a little plump so they gotta lift a lot of weight like gladiators.

Speaker 1 5:00

Yes, exactly, belly roll so, uh, because of that, we're doing a powerlifting competition our first ever, and I think Darren's going to join us.

Speaker 2 5:09

He's all in.

Speaker 1 5:10

He acted like it and July 19th, here in Dripping Springs, gods of Iron. Apparently it's a pretty big deal. There's a lot of people that show up, so if you're in town, please come check it out. But in the meantime, we have a strategy from Lift Big, eat Big, and we are going to get our numbers up. But the cool thing is, I have the numbers that we need to hit to hit certain things within the International Powerlifting League.

Speaker 2 5:37

All right. So we're going to get some information and we'll also kind of put the link here in the show notes so that if you're listening to this and you want to find out where you would kind of size this up 00,00,00. The classification standards 00,00,00 yeah in terms of age, weight, and then what the numbers need to be to compete at that level 00,00,00.

Speaker 1 5:54

Apparently, I'm going to need to learn the conversions between kilos and pounds, so I'm going to work on that. So this is the International Powerlifting League Classification Standards for age weight class, just to determine where we need to be to be classed in a certain way. Great, all right. So I found this website, so I'm going to start with you.

Speaker 2 6:15

All right, we go mail.

Speaker 1 6:17

The events are squat.

Speaker 2 6:20

Well, I actually identify myself as a they, because I'm so jacked.

Speaker 1 6:27

There's two of me.

Speaker 2 6:29

More than one person.

Speaker 1 6:31

And get me started on that.

Speaker 2 6:33

Moving right along. You might enjoy it.

Speaker 1 6:36

There are four classifications. There's full power, which is what we're talking about, which is the 1,000 pound, all three, which are squat, bench press and deadlift, and so we're going to go full power. The weight classes are in kilograms. I think 100 kilograms is like 220. So that the weight classes are in kilograms. I think 100 kilograms is like 220. Yeah, so that's where you will be. Uh, equipment is raw.

Speaker 2 6:55

I don't understand the equipment we'll just say raw, your age. Raw raw means no, no like extra, you know straps or or we don't need straps or anything, right?

Speaker 1 7:04

yeah, yeah, no, we're going.

Speaker 2 7:05

Well, there's a certain raw is like, okay, you can wear knee, knee braces or knee pads, but not like, uh, there's certain things you can't wear.

Speaker 1 7:13

Can you wear a back brace? Yeah, you can wear a back.

Speaker 2 7:15

You can wear some sort of a belt, all right, cool, we'll go raw.

Speaker 1 7:18

And your age classification is 50 to 54 at this point.

Speaker 2 7:21

Yes, it'll be 50 to 54.

Speaker 1 7:22

So let's calculate, let's see where we need to be. All right, all right, all right, right now. So there's multiple classifications. I have no idea what this means. All right, it starts with the top is international elite.

Speaker 2 7:38

Don't, let's not do that I don't want to be humiliated by them master class one, class two, class three, class four.

Speaker 1 7:44

Okay, all right, I have no idea what those classes are.

Speaker 2 7:46

Let's just pick class one.

Speaker 1 7:48

Class one you have to have to be in that range, right? 1,163 total pounds, okay. Class two is actually where you are at, okay, which is 1,019. All right, all right, I think I can do 1,019. Class two yeah, full power at that age.

Speaker 2 8:15

Because if I'm doing, say, if I do 420, let's say okay. Let's say uh, deadlift, for I think I can go 440 by, then okay okay, plus in a bench I'm gonna go 275. Okay, I think you can do better than that, but I just because of my shoulder- I just want, I want to take it real slow, gotcha, gotcha and then squat, I think I can do 350. You can do. That puts me at 1065. That puts me at 1,065. So that puts me in that class.

Speaker 1 8:33

Yeah, so you're in the class two to one. You're in that range, yeah, okay, so depending on the other competitors in your age group, you could win. Are kings, gods?

Powerlifting Classification and Age Groups

Speaker 2 8:45

Gods of iron, the gods of iron, all right, gods of iron, I hope if you win, win you get some sort of a sword or battle axe or something just barbaric. We're gonna be disappointed all right.

Speaker 1 8:57

So with just squat in your age group, raw all that stuff. You have to be class two, you have to have 380 yeah, if you just do squat, if you just do squat, uh, you're so like the jumps pretty big from class three to class two. Class three is a three 66. Okay, if you want to be internationally elite, you have to hit five 73.

Speaker 2 9:19

Yeah, because if you're two 20, a lot of guys that are two, 20 or like five, eight, five, nine, right.

Speaker 1 9:24

Yeah, that's a big, that's a big man. What are you? Seven feet tall, six four. All right, go, but there isn't a height.

Speaker 2 9:31

There's not a height.

Speaker 1 9:32

Class right no, yeah, so it's just yeah. So I'm gonna be perfect in this because my short little armies yeah, they that those are things that like my little baby.

Speaker 2 9:40

Don't, they don't factor in, but you know, it is what some people are meant for this, some people aren't.

Speaker 1 9:45

I'm not meant to be a uh bodybuilder. What is it? What do you do that? Like you have to be cut, do bodybuilding, bodybuilding? Yeah, I'm not meant to do that. I'm meant to be a powerlifter. All right, ready? So let's do bench press. All right, here's the thing about bench press To be class two, you have to have a 253. Okay.

Speaker 2 10:04

Now, these are kind of average. You're there, I'm there, so class one, you could this is bench only.

Speaker 1 10:10

This is if you just just competed in the bench press so what more than likely is, we'll do full power and we'll do each individual is what I think we'll do.

Speaker 2 10:18

Okay is that possible I don't know you probably have to sign up for each of those independently, so it's like they get you.

Speaker 1 10:23

I have no idea if you want to do like classic physique and men's physique yeah, I think, I think we're gonna be true novice, or what we do is we find what gets us into the master or elite. Yeah, and we focus on that. We do full power, no matter what.

Speaker 2 10:35

But then so I'm definitely gonna do full power, but I think it'll be fun to also then, like you know, especially on something like my deadlift or it's probably my best, which is up next yeah, my best lift, be fun to compete yeah, so class one, you need a 292. For class one in what?

Speaker 1 10:50

In bench press. Okay, so you're there.

Speaker 2 10:54

I'm in between class two, class one. Yeah, that's clear just across the board. Like it's probably, what about deadlift?

Speaker 1 10:59

All right, here we are. So class two is ranked at 380. 380. So you could be a master. Yeah, so that's the third. So elite, international elite, elite and master To be a master, you need 485. Yeah, so the jump is between class one, which is 435, which you could hit. Masters is then a 485. Okay, all right. So this is going to be a stretch. Now it's my turn. Yeah, okay, let's go. The stretch is I have to be 220.

Speaker 2 11:33

That's the stretch, and you weigh what how much, in that way.

Speaker 1 11:36

About two I go from like 227.

Speaker 2 11:38

I can just tell you're lying right now To 230. Yes, I'm lying, yeah, but I got the.

Speaker 1 11:44

Austin Marathon right now.

Speaker 2 11:46

So it's say you're two, so you.

Speaker 1 11:48

so I changed the age group, mine's 40 to 44. Okay, uh, my weight class is a hundred, which are a hundred kilograms, which we'll see full power. Let's see what we got and then I'll change. I'll go up if I want to see like. Hey, I want to have a big meal the night before, then you know that type of.

Speaker 2 12:05

Thing.

Speaker 1 12:06

Yeah, so, whoops, ooh, this is a big one. Apparently, I need to be 50,. Uh, to be class two, like we were describing, I have to have 1174 total power bench press squat deadlift. Class three is 1025. Okay, so I think I'm right there in class three.

Speaker 2 12:26

I think you're between between class three and class two. Cause I think? Because your think you're between between class three and class two? Because I think, because your, your bench is probably 340, 350 right now you're.

Speaker 1 12:35

You haven't even tried to get good at deadlift yeah and your squats, probably that's there's a lot of what ifs here. Well, there's a. There's a lot of room for growth.

Speaker 2 12:43

Yeah and you're in your technique and you're strong, so it's like if we can get your deadlift to four plus your squat to 400 and your bench to like 365. Damn, I mean, that's four, that's eight.

Speaker 1 12:55

That's 1100.

Speaker 2 12:56

That's 1165. I might never lift again after that, I might just retire. It's 1165 right there. All right, so let's do an experiment, okay, all right the classifications.

Speaker 1 13:04

the weight class goes from 100 to 110 kilograms. So, let's go to one, 10 C you know, so I can enjoy myself.

Speaker 2 13:09

Right, let's calculate those books. Okay, uh, it goes up a little bit. So what's one? 10 kilograms, what's that?

Speaker 1 13:17

like two 40. Yeah, let me pull up the dang. I'm going to have to get on solutions RX, semi-glutide immediately like high dose. We're doing the calculation 42. 242. All right, so I have to be class two. I have to have 1,207 pounds. Class three is 1,058. All right, so I'm going to go back to 220 because that's realistic. You know, that's going to be great and we're going to hit.

Speaker 2 13:46

This is where it really pays to be old 50 years old versus 40. I want to see what it was my age group before In the 30s those numbers are stacked dude Insane, all right by 50,. The people are broken down. They've got injuries.

Speaker 1 14:02

They can't compete anymore. I think Darren's going to crush his age group 55, dude.

Speaker 2 14:06

He's freaking jacked.

Speaker 1 14:07

All right, so we go squat 100. We're back. So we go squat 100. We're back to 100. 220. The class two I have to get man, this is going to be tough. 441 in squat yeah, that's big. Class three is 385. That jump is huge. Yeah, all right, let's see at 110, 242, what I'm going to have to be. Well, that's 457. I mean, it significantly jumps up like 15 pounds. All right, I'm going to stick with 220 because that's what it's going to be for real, all right. So let's go bench press. This is where I feel like I'm going to thrive and survive. Yeah, all right, this is great. All right, right, this is great, All right. Class two is 292 with that age group. So class one would be 330. Master is 369. Master would be a stretch. Yeah, but if I could get a class one which I did, 330, repped this, yeah, I failed on a couple of them. Let me tell you something.

Speaker 2 15:06

You get 50 people standing there, judges people on both sides of the bar.

Speaker 1 15:11

I hate people around me.

Speaker 2 15:13

The adrenaline you're going to have is going to be out of control. So what about like?

Speaker 1 15:19

smelling salts. Like do we need to go like all in, Come on buddy.

Speaker 2 15:23

Yes, we don't need that.

Speaker 1 15:25

No, we do need it. All right, so I need to be pushing 350, to get to master? Yeah, all right, that's what you thought. Now deadlift. Let's see what we got. This is untapped. Okay, I'm a diamond in a rough here. I've done 330 multiple times. Uh, class two, I need to 441, class 1501 uh, master 556, yeah, so I'm going to retire. Right now. I'm going to do what we call saving face.

Speaker 2 16:01

Here's the thing. It's good to know where other people are, but it's our first competition.

Speaker 1 16:08

I mean we're in Dripping Springs too. Maybe that helps.

Speaker 2 16:11

Let's just assume I think you should have a number of like 1,100. I think that just knowing what your lifts are right now, I think a total pound. Knowing what your lifts are right now, I think total poundage of 1100 pounds would be absolutely insane, which I think is 500 kilos, by the way, if I'm doing the math right 500.

Speaker 1 16:30

I need to really figure that out, yeah 500 kilos is 2.2, is is 1100 pounds. Okay.

Speaker 2 16:36

So that that should be your kind of like mindset. It's like get to 500 kilograms, okay, total right. And for me a thousand divided by 2.2 is I didn't come out right 15 000 450, basically 455 kilos, kilos, right.

Speaker 2 16:56

So I mean, however you want to look at it like, I think for you 1100, but the the thing that's going to go so well for you. It's like imagine somebody who can already run like a sub four-hour marathon and he has terrible form and technique and never like you're. You've got a whole bunch of, like, raw strength, yeah, and you have no technique. Yeah, I've seen you bench press.

Speaker 1 17:18

You have no technique and that's a good thing.

Speaker 2 17:20

I mean, it's not like you're doing it wrong. You just aren't doing anything that's actually helping you lift more weight, like with leg drive and like position, the angle of your, of the bar going from your chest up towards, like there's so many little like added things that are going to give you help 5, 10, 15 kilos onto your bench. Okay, just based on technique and practicing that technique. Same thing with deadlift, same thing with squat, like these things. And this is what James, with Lift Big, eat Big, is teaching me and I'm going to work with you on when we get to the gym is run your marathon, but next week put the marathon stuff aside, because no marathon runner is getting 1,100 pounds.

Speaker 2 18:00

You've got to put the marathon stuff aside because no marathon runner is getting 1100 pounds, okay, you gotta put the marathon aside. Put it aside, okay, because we're gonna have to work on developing your explosive squat, deadlift and but realistically can I continue to run on a regular basis while lifting? Sure I mean it's gonna ultimately put me back. Just don't, don't run first basis while lifting. Sure I mean it's going to ultimately put me back.

Speaker 1 18:21

Don't, don't, run first. Lift first and run yeah.

Speaker 2 18:24

Lift big, run big Okay.

Speaker 1 18:26

That's a good. Hey, let's get that URL.

Speaker 2 18:29

Buy that real quick.

Speaker 1 18:30

Let's buy it real good yeah.

Speaker 2 18:31

But so okay. And then this go all people listening.

Speaker 2 18:35

If you made it through this part of the episode, this is a lot of like us talking about, like what's going to happen to us, like, so I don't know how valuable this is you guys, but you know maybe a few people keep listening here, um, but anyway, like, just the idea of like that's, that's one of the coolest things that I you know I'm obviously a trainer like I've trained people to get stronger and build muscle, that kind of stuff for years, but when I'm getting to learn as a student now of j DeLacy is, you know, the more the technique you know has an explosive base to it, has a strong, powerful frame of like support, the more power and you're going to be able to create and therefore the more strength and just explosivity you're going to utilize to lift heavier weight strength and just explosivity you're going to utilize to lift heavier weight. You know you can just kind of throw more weight on the bar and eventually get a little bit stronger, get a little stronger.

Technique, Form, and Progressive Training

Speaker 2 19:27

But at some point that's going to plateau out, because you're not going to have the power, the explosivity or the stability in your shoulders and body to be able to handle that. You know one thing to try just to understand how much the legs are involved in bench press is to put your legs out completely straight like like float them off.

Speaker 2 19:44

Okay, while you're doing it right now, just legs out doing it right now off the ground shoot off the ground and imagine you taking, you know, 300 pounds of bench pressing it, dude, I can't do it, my back is breaking so, and then put your feet on the floor, arch your back okay and push your feet like you're trying to slide your back up the bench okay bench like under the bar and all of a sudden your entire body becomes like a tabletop. Right you have four.

Speaker 2 20:15

You have your shoulder blades, which are keeping your upper body stable and you have your feet planted on the ground, lifting your body, pushing it kind of together in a sense, which creates a frame to be able to handle so much more weight. And so when you watch powerlifting videos, you'll see that they often have this major arch in the back. Now the butt has to stay on the bench, or else it's not a good rep. But it has to stay on the bench, or else it's not a good rep. But you're putting your body in the most powerful, stable position to be able to create as much force as possible, and that right there is probably 20 to 40 pounds of technique strength.

Speaker 1 20:57

Really Right Dang, possibly Listen, I'm going master, baby going master baby.

Speaker 2 21:02

So this, this is what you got to buy into. It's not just brute force like hey, I just need to keep benching heavy, that's going to get you injured. Okay, like and this is the first thing that james told me he's like because I would tell him what I was doing.

Speaker 1 21:15

I'm like yeah, I did like 230 for three, super impressive.

Speaker 2 21:18

You know, I've been 250 for one, three times and he's like okay, that's great. He's like now we're going to. So he's pulled me back to like four sets.

Speaker 1 21:29

We're not doing the Ohio State plan anymore.

Speaker 2 21:31

We pulled back Now. It's because we have a certain amount of time to grow into more and more sets and heavier in volume. So we have to have somewhere to grow to. Yeah, we can't just beat ourselves into a wall and, like you, expect that to be so, because otherwise we'll just end up like overdoing it, injuring ourselves. Yeah, so anyway, this is all to say. You have to have a vision for where you're trying to go. Yeah, right, and brute force, strength or just talent will only get you so far.

Speaker 2 22:01

And eventually that will lead to an injury or a plateau, and nothing is worse than a plateau that you just keep trying to break through and eventually you're like oh, my shoulder crap. I'm like oh, whatever.

Speaker 1 22:12

No, I feel it Right, and so we don't want to have that Very similar to the running side. Yeah, absolutely, I think I could commit, and for me I want to just submit to the plan and I'll trust it. Yeah, because I know okay, I'm still strong yeah I can still do a certain like I have in my mind.

Speaker 2 22:29

I can already get a thousand yeah so I'm okay with that, knowing okay I can take a step back to get better techniques so ultimately when we compete, maybe I could push 1100 full yeah, power which would be really cool yeah, I think that's the key is have a window like for me, like 950 to 1050 is the window that I think I'm going to like fall into, yeah, in about five months, right like if I did it right now I could probably get 970, 9, 980, like best day for, and everything felt good on all three lifts. So I mean I feel like 950 to 1050, you know is my window.

Speaker 1 23:10

Well, I mean, I guess I have a little different perspective. You know I'm doing the Austin Marathon. It's my 20th marathon, yeah. So anybody that's like, oh, I could never do a marathon, I'm like you absolutely could. Right now you could do one. I could coach you through it. So for me, when I hear you talk about your numbers, like absolutely you can do over a thousand, uh, because in those moments of like adrenaline like you described, like I don't know if I'll love that, but also like I think you're right, like there's going to be an extra 10, 15, 20 pounds that you can push or pull. That's going to be bigger than what you normally would do in a gym, just you and me hanging out.

Speaker 2 23:46

But I also will say that I'm closer to like. I've already figured out more of my bench technique, more of my squat technique, more of my deadlift technique than you have.

Speaker 1 23:59

So you're kind of there.

Speaker 2 24:01

So, yeah, I mean mean there's still more to learn, and that's what James is working with me on and he's also working on just more overall kind of robust structural stability, with some like just core work and side bends and stuff like that. But I just think it's like the first step when somebody starts lifting for the first time, they just get insane gains for six to nine months. You're just like, oh, I just benched wheat last week.

Speaker 1 24:28

At this rate I want to be 450.

Speaker 2 24:30

I know and then at some point that just slows down into what you kind of start getting closer and closer to your natural body's max weight or max strength level or max strength level and then the ability to go from like 80 of your maximum potential to 90 takes a long time versus like zero to 80 probably takes, you know, a year it's a similar thing in running, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 24:56

So once you hit under four hours marathon and that's your like pr right, and you've been running a lot like to get to to three 50 is that's that gap's huge, but like a four 30 or a five 30 or even a four 30 to a four 20 is not, but uh, uh, that extra 10, 10 minutes it really does. You have to really take your time in doing explosive workouts and endurance, long endurance runs and consistent mileage up. So I think it's a similar thing. One thing that I've lacked is muscle endurance. So when we start doing the when I started doing the Ohio state strength thing that you did it's like by the time I get to my one reps like I'm gassed. You know, like my muscle fatigue is crazy. So I want to get to the point where I can warm up, like this is.

Speaker 1 25:46

I told you we were going to do squats today and I was like, dude, I got the Austin marathon. I can't like I'm going to be hurting for a week, dude, it's exactly right, but I'll be hurting for a week before I could actually start running again. I wanted, I wanted to work with you on technique, because you can squat on your own.

Speaker 2 26:04

You don't need me there, but what I want to do is get you over to Campagnano's. They have the literal powerlifting rack there where you can squat and bench, and I want you to just work on technique. And so, as best I can, take James' concepts james, you know, and and just the power lifting concepts that I understand are at this point, and give you something to practice, because what I'm learning more and more is that these three lifts are not just the three lifts you did in high school yeah they are, they are, they are.

Speaker 2 26:38

each and each one of them is a skill, yeah, like shooting a free throw or throwing it, throwing a touchdown pass. There's so much to the technique of the throw, or, in this case, the technique of the bench, deadlift and squat, that the heavier we go, the heavier we go, the more likely that form, that technique is going to go to shit, because the moment your body feels like it's in crisis, like fight or flight, you're just going to do whatever it takes to get it up.

Speaker 1 27:04

You don't want to go to shit, yeah, right, because the moment your body feels like it's in crisis, like fight or flight, you're just going to do whatever it takes to get it up.

Speaker 2 27:08

You don't want to go down because, oh, I'm going to have perfect form and fail, like your body's gonna be like no, we're not doing that, we're just going to like, twist our hip and move this and get the weight up and deal with the ramifications of that too. So that's you know. I mean, that's why it's important to work under your max. Uh, and that's the, the, I think the excitement of the of the um ohio state buckeyes thing.

Speaker 2 27:32

It's like those one rep maxes were never really maxes yeah they were like 90 to 92 percent of your max, so you could get under there, put some real weight on, but still like, not feel like you were at your full max.

Speaker 1 27:44

Yeah right, which, which was, I think, a cool concept yeah, it got me, it got me back into it got me to see what I could do, which is cool, but I'm excited about getting this program going yeah and getting things and I'm excited about july. Man, let's do it. Man, it's gonna be fun hey, and, and anybody listening.

Speaker 2 28:00

Uh, if you want more information, obviously you know. If you want to reach out directly to, j do so. But if you want just some tips or some pointers, as I'm a trainer so I can give you some just like basic, like strength conditioning stuff. If you want to dive in all fully on powerlifting or some of the technical stuff of those lifts, james is your guy.

Speaker 1 28:20

Yeah, so heads up on that, awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for listening. I appreciate you. Yeah, man, we both do this has.

Speaker 2 28:24

Awesome. Well, thank you guys so much for listening.

Speaker 1 28:26

I appreciate y'all. Yeah, man, we both do. This has been fun. We're on a little journey. Yeah, I know it's exciting.

Speaker 2 28:29

I never thought we'd be here, but here we are, and best of luck to you, man, on your marathon. Oh, it'll be great. May you drink every beer that's given to you.

Speaker 1 28:40

Oh, yeah, guys, oh, shut the fuck up, it's true though. So this year my plan. So I was gonna break the guinness world record for fastest marathon dressed as a book, because I'm a literary agent, right, you know what happened with that? Uh, I didn't get it in time so I didn't get approved, yeah yeah, and then I have to figure all that.

Speaker 2 28:59

It'll be fine they were too busy uh counting uh truett, truett the truett's uh pull-ups 10,001 pull-ups.

Speaker 1 29:07

I texted him the other day and said hey, congrats, man. That's pretty impressive bro.

Speaker 2 29:11

It is, it's insane dude, it's next level.

Speaker 1 29:14

So, anyway, my marathon, I'm planning on doing similar to what I did last year, which was drink because Austin's a pretty party atmosphere. Yeah, did we have the podcast last year for Austin?

Speaker 2 29:26

No, so this will be your first experience, not quite.

Speaker 1 29:28

So my goal every Austin marathon cause it's a party environment is to drink every drink that's offered to me. And about mile eight and nine we get in Tarrytown and it is a party. So this year I'm going to bring money for a sandwich. There's a sandwich shop at mile 16. I'm going to get myself a sandwich so I can gear up for mile 19, 20, 20. Cause you go through breweries at that point and it gets full beer style. So that's the plan.

Speaker 1 29:57

I'm videoing it. As always, I'll put the reel out. You guys will enjoy it. Hopefully I don't get as I mean I was hammered.

Speaker 2 30:04

We might have to do an emergency pod based on that. Sounds great, I might be calling.

Speaker 1 30:09

Bart, Bart, pick me up bro.

Speaker 2 30:11

I'm hammered at the finish line. Whatever you need, it's Sunday, right.

Speaker 1 30:15

It's this Sunday.

Speaker 2 30:16

Well, I mean whenever this comes out, this episode comes out after, but we'll do an emergency pod based on how it went.

Speaker 1 30:21

The outcomes yeah, how it goes, how drunk he got. I'll recap it and I'll do it in five minutes or less, I guess. Bart, Wow, buddy.

Speaker 2 30:31

Sensitivo A little bit Well.

Speaker 1 30:33

thanks so much for listening, guys. We will catch you next time.

Speaker 2 30:36

And, by the way, if you see Mitch out on the street, just give him a hug. He needs a hug right now. All right, peace.