The Dad Bods and Dumbbells Podcast
The hosts Mitch and Bart discuss fitness, fatherhood, and guy stuff to help men live a great life, have fun, laugh, and get a little more fit in this weekly Podcast.
The Dad Bods and Dumbbells Podcast
Britt Knighton Interview: Humor, Fatherhood and Entrepreneurship.
Britt Knighton shares his remarkable journey from getting fired before his first job to becoming CEO of Home Care Interact, with pivotal stops including tsunami relief work in Sri Lanka where he met his wife and overcoming a life-changing car accident.
• Fourth-generation Baylor graduate who planned to write speeches and join SNL
• Lost his first job before starting, leading him to Sri Lanka for relief work where he met his future wife
• Helped build 90 homes for tsunami victims during a transformative seven-month stay
• Worked for a marketing firm in Waco for 11 years while starting several companies
• Joined Camp Gladiator after recovering from a serious accident that broke his neck
• Now serves as CEO of Home Care Interact, providing marketing for home care agencies
• Parents two boys with distinct personalities, navigating the challenges of fatherhood
• Realized through counseling that many of his "good actions" were driven by seeking others' approval
• Found greater authenticity by changing his motivations rather than his actions
• Offers sales training, consulting, and Enneagram training for corporate events
If you're in the home care space and looking for marketing help, reach out to Brit through the contact information in our show notes. britt@campgladiator.com
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Welcome to Dad, bods and Dumbbells. I'm Barton.
Speaker 2:And I'm Mitch.
Speaker 1:Oh, we got a special one for you today. I've got my friend and he's a dad. He's a dad bod. He's an amazing dude, yep Britt Knighton. This guy graduated from Baylor University. He's got two kids, two boys, amazing wife Christina. He's an entrepreneur his whole life. He really understands marketing and he's the CEO of Home Care Interact. And so we're going to talk about a lot of different things from being a dad and life and entrepreneurship and all those types of things, and Britt is going to just share some wisdom. So, britt, thanks for being on the pod.
Speaker 3:You bet I'm excited to be here. Dad bod, I can claim it. I'm fine with it. I'll wear that flag on my back.
Speaker 2:Let's go. I enjoy you the best so far. Would you like to join a podcast? We can get this dumbbell out of here. Would you like?
Speaker 3:me to take off my shirt.
Speaker 1:Let's take out the dumbbell.
Speaker 3:See my tin pack. I actually have different muscles than other humans because they're that shredded.
Speaker 2:No, All right. So Britt Yo have different muscles than other humans because they're that shredded. No, all right. So, brit yo, tell me a little bit about how, first and foremost, um, you know the, the tail and the timeline of your life. So you go to baylor. Let's start with baylor. Yeah, what was the drive from baylor to where you're currently at right now? How do you go from there to being ceo of a company you started?
Speaker 1:well, I can you know, I you know it's about an hour and 45 minute five minute drive to austin from baylor. So true, yeah, true that's, that's the question you're asking, or the drive like his motivation no drive and mileage.
Speaker 2:Thank you for clarifying.
Speaker 3:It's about 100 miles, 100 miles even. Um, no, I I'm a fourth generation bear, so I knew I was going to Baylor. It's like grafted into the vine, biblically, I think it's in the back. I think it's a place where I loved Baylor, I had the best experience and I knew I wanted to do marketing. I knew I wanted to do entrepreneurship, and so I get my first job right out of college.
Speaker 3:So I graduate December. My first job starts January 3rd. So so I have this like three week Christmas break before I start my real first job. Right, and it was with a senatorial campaign and I wanted to do speech writing and then become a lobbyist and then join SNL cast. That's literally what my I thought my trajectory would be Okay. Um, I get a call on like the 28th of December to come to Austin and I'm like, oh well, my job doesn't start until a couple days, right, and so I go down there, they take me to a high-rise office building and they were like I'm so sorry they're cleaning house and I get fired from my job before I even start you're the Shane Gillis of working for a senator.
Speaker 3:So they give me a severance check, which is the most money I'd ever seen, right, because I'm just out of college. I have like a couch and some DVDs. That's the only thing I own right and so I'm so sad. I'm thinking, oh gosh, my life's ruined, I've just lost my first job. Everybody's already six months ahead of finding their first job and I'm like I guess I have some money, but what am I going to do next?
Speaker 2:How much was the check? What we all want to know $20,000. Just out the gate.
Speaker 3:That was my six-month severance. Okay, yeah, and they were trying. I mean, I don't even know what happened?
Speaker 3:The fact that you got a job for a political campaign and you were getting paid right off the bat well, it's forty thousand dollars total for the whole year, plus all these expenses that you had to do and live. I I wouldn't make much money, but I had the opportunity to make this great experience and split time between austin and dc and I'm like this is gonna be so cool. Well, anyway, I lose the whole thing and I'm depressed that next night in southeast asia there was a tsunami. This is 2004. And I'm thinking this is a sign. I'm going to go and I'm going to help do relief effort in Sri Lanka and I'm like, all right, parents, I'm going to sell all my possessions, which is none, and I'm going to go overseas. And my parents are like, yay, we just paid for Baylor and you're leaving across the world, and they think I'm crazy.
Speaker 3:But I get there. It takes a couple months but I get there and I do some relief aid. We build houses with an NGO that's there In town. There's only one other girl that's single. She's the nanny for a long-term team that was there doing relief aid. Turns out to be my wife. We met in sri lanka and fell in love, which is like paradise. It's like bali, right, or the maldives, and so, by the way, sri lanka is the little teardrop island at the bottom of india.
Speaker 2:if you don't know where that is, so I mean, how bad was it hit? Was it like devastation?
Speaker 3:it's like some of the hardest stuff I've ever seen. Yeah, um, but over the time we built 90 homes for these people and it was just this cool thing. I was so naive too. I just think I'd traveled a little bit, but nothing like this, and it just was.
Speaker 1:When you're young, though, it gives you such purpose to be like there to help build a house for a family. You know, like just it's very singular focus, beautiful and it was.
Speaker 3:it was cool because, oh, I'll say it, the worst thing that had happened professionally led up to the best thing happening personally in my whole life. So I come back and I'm like what am I going to do? So I'm thinking maybe I can do relief aid long term.
Speaker 2:How long were you there, sorry?
Speaker 3:Seven months, six months.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, how long before you met Christina.
Speaker 3:Like week one. Oh yeah, how long before you met christina like week one. Oh okay, we we met because there's other expats, I mean there's no one else that spoke english okay, and so I'm like I don't know. She always was like would you have chosen me if there were other people?
Speaker 1:there and I'm like there was slim pickings. Maybe you were one of one, literally you're one in a million.
Speaker 3:That's from miss.
Speaker 2:Congeniality okay um, so, so you go. Sorry, so did she come with you, or was she?
Speaker 3:no, no, she was there after. Oh yeah, we flew home together, okay, okay, she ended hers. She had a six-month.
Speaker 1:She's like I got a thing I gotta go see about this guy.
Speaker 3:Peace out family yeah, I mean it was. It was so much fun so we did that and we dated long distance for a while, which was really good for a relationship. And then I start, helped a company a marketing firm in Waco, did that for 11 years, started some other companies, kind of that hyper entrepreneur, and just loved it and failed a couple of times and did okay a couple of times and, um, got to meet a lot of partners and build something. I was uh kind of dabbled with Baylor Angel Network, which was really fun from the entrepreneurship department at Baylor.
Speaker 1:One of my clients is one of the investors in the Baylor Angel Network.
Speaker 3:Oh really, yeah, yeah, it's a wonderful organization.
Speaker 1:It's almost like Shark Tank for Baylor students. It's exactly right and it's an incubator for some awesome companies.
Speaker 3:It's just either Baylor or baylor adjacent and we just want great people who have great integrity in the business world and make sure that? How are we making sure that those people can win and we can actually make an influence and an impact? I had the best time in waco but knew something was changing for me and I got in a really bad car accident and broke my neck and shattered my hip and my whole world changed and so I had to do rehab and I started going to this little thing called Camp Gladiator and it changed my life and I started going back and feeling healthy again and got off painkillers and wanted to make sure that I was being healthy. And I had a little baby on the way at the time and I was like all right, I want this is this is this is really cool. This is a different group and a different attitude when it comes to fitness and just comes to the community.
Speaker 1:And a quick, quick side note for if you're listening to this and you don't live in Austin or you don't know, Camp Gladiator, it's an outdoor bootcamp company. It started in like 2008. That's how I actually know Britt. I started in 2012. I think you came on shortly after 2015. 2015, yeah, so Britt and I, we were both directors there for a long time. So anyway, yeah, it's Outdoor Bootcamp, very like community, friendly, just energy, attitude, like fun. You know place you want to go work out.
Speaker 3:It was awesome Best people and I wanted to go someplace where I could be a part of the people and they needed someone to help run marketing and I was like, all right, let's do it. So we moved our family to Austin and I was there for nine years.
Speaker 1:And you had already had kids at that point.
Speaker 3:Yep, yep, we had an 18 month old and a four year old when we moved. And so nine years ago, 10 years ago, and so it was awesome, it was a great experience and we went through the whole COVID world together and, and you know, learned all our lessons and we grew and shrank and grew and um, but this last year time for me to um, probably move on it was just writing, was on the wall and it was good, good, natural exit for me. And so I did that. And, uh, I had invested in a company called home care interact back in 2015. And then the other owners and founders came to me and said, hey, we need somebody to help run this thing and get us to the next level. And so in October of last year 24, I jumped on board and I'm the CEO, which is wild.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. Yeah, love it. So not many five-year-olds that are growing up are like I want to be an entrepreneur. Sure, because during that time it wasn't a thing.
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:So you're early 2000s right.
Speaker 3:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:So what kind of role models? How was the modeling where you're like, hey, I have a knack for this and I am going to pursue this. Were there role models, people that popped up in your mind, or maybe even during this process, that kind of molded you and guided you in that?
Speaker 3:I never wanted to necessarily own the business. I liked the freedom. Like. My personality is such that if I do the same routine every day, I will get bored and I'll feel like I'm a boring person and I'll I'll create. My wife makes fun of me. She's like you will start a fire so you can put it out and then turn around and look for a metal.
Speaker 1:And she's like bitch, you just made that fire. Only a wife can tell us that with such clarity.
Speaker 3:It's just so funny and it's very, very, very true. I mean a panache for drama, I guess, but I just don't want to do anything the same all the time. I don't like being stuck. And so the entrepreneurship felt like, or sales felt like I could be around people and it would change all the time. So that's really what drove me there and the finances were great. But it was never a winning the money race, it was winning the I love sales because I wanted to win. I mean, every little dopamine hit of I got a sale was just awesome and it was all relationship driven which I loved.
Speaker 1:Let me ask you this too I've heard people say show me an entrepreneur and I'll show you somebody who has a hard time with rules and authority. Did you feel growing up that you kind of just innately wanted to? Well, obviously you didn't want to sit still, but were you just innately kind of wanting to buck the rules of being a kid or push the boundaries?
Speaker 3:No, probably my natural inclination would be yes, I have such great parents and so following rules was part of my upbringing but also kept me safe. So I never saw rules as this negative thing. I don't love them. I think everything's gray to me. Nothing's black and white, I mean, there's a little bit of gray in everything so I can kind of see and reframe. That's just kind of one of my things in my head. But it's more like I understand the rules are there to keep me safe, but rules for rules sake dumb. No.
Speaker 1:I just want to. I'm going to, like I said I'll start a fire just to put it out and be like yeah, look what I did, I love it, okay, great. So we talked a little bit about your time growing up, what about being a dad You've got two sons Mitch has a son and a daughter. I've got a son and talk a little bit about your lessons you're learning as a dad with two sons and how you're raising them and some thoughts we were talking recently just about kind of reframing, kind of the the uh fights and things like that yeah, I mean my boys.
Speaker 3:So I I'm really big into personality, just self-awareness, personality testing. I taught the enneagram for years. I've gotten into the shrink finder and all these. There's another one called Six Working Geniuses. I love. I love the idea of like giving a framework to people's personality and understanding kind of why do I do the things that I do? I think it's so fascinating to me, helps me understand people so that I can do great in business. But also you have deeper relationships and you care for people better, so why wouldn't I do the same thing with my kiddos? My wife and I are opposites in every way. She is introverted, she is quiet, she is, I mean, awesome, loyal, high integrity, I guess hopefully we have those in common, but really very, very different than me. Not a risk taker, I mean loyal to a fault, consistent, I mean guys the opposite of me in every way.
Speaker 3:Okay. And so when we started having kids, I thought there would be this like cool mix. And my oldest is just like my wife and my youngest is just like me, and so the cool part is I know how to handle my oldest son because I know how she works. Vice versa Also my youngest drives me up a wall and drives, and the older drives Christina up a wall. So I think learning that has been good. I, you know I'm a silly, I just want to have fun, you know. And so with the boys, my I'm always accused of being the fun one of like only one, and not necessarily the disciplined one or the consistency one. So like, even like last night, I got in trouble this morning. My wife was a nurse. She works nights, so she's coming home after 12 hours of nursing and I had the boys stay up way too late and they're like groggy and angry and weird this morning and I'm like I don't know why I don't know what the deal is oh my gosh, you know.
Speaker 3:So she's that brit. I'm like I know we were just having so much fun. We were watching videos. I was showing the snl skits for when I was a little kid. That's awesome anyway. So, yeah, that we're different, but uh, yeah, I've learned a lot about just being a dad. My main goal is I want them to be respectful, like in our. In our house we have five rules that the knightens always do and you cannot get in trouble for anything unless you break one of these five rules. And it makes a framework of hey, what, what went wrong? Which rule was broken?
Speaker 3:and they're like not sharing like yeah, exactly or like make promises and keep them, or be a good steward, you know, and so I. I've learned a lot about that from a discipline stake. But also I want to be consistent, and I'm not a consistent person in general yeah. Yeah, so being consistent and disciplined and also just like loving my kiddos is probably the thing I have to probably work really hard at, instead of just being the fun dad all the time.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you kind of go into the next thought of uh, I know balance is a myth about work, work, life balance, family balance, but how, as a successful entrepreneur and a CEO of a company that probably continues to grow, I mean, how many, uh, how big is the current home care? How many patients do you guys have under your belt? Cause that would be a really interesting thing to understand how you continue to grow a business share that you know, your wife working night shift, what, what uh? Icu, where?
Speaker 3:does she postpartum neonatal? Okay, so my wife's a nurse, as well.
Speaker 2:So she worked night shift for years and so the idea that we could have a balanced life was kind of like well, maybe two of the four days she has off, type of idea. So how do you guys manage that work life balance and build a family together? And stay, stay connected relationally.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:That's another big thing, um thing that we all struggle with, but I'd love to hear your thoughts.
Speaker 3:We're ships in a night passing, especially while she, if she does three in a row, I mean there'll be two days I don't even see her, cause I leave before she gets home or I'm back from work before after she leaves. So we text and talk a lot. You know we just have to make sure and be really intentional. We both like quality time and so we even just talk on the phone like when we were kids. You know it's fun to just to make sure. There's the two kinds of connection. There's the catch-up connection of just like what's going on in your life stuff. And then once you get past that and you're through with the practicals, like you know, sometimes it's not fun, but we have to align calendars, not the cutest mean. It's not a lot of hanky-panky after that.
Speaker 2:I mean, it depends on the wife, right? It does depend on what gets them excited. You know what really gets me going.
Speaker 3:Calendar alignment.
Speaker 1:Calendar coordinating the calendar.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So the kitchen calendar when it's all highlighted with the different things, yeah, that gets her going. No, I'm kidding. You know what's an aphrodisiac?
Speaker 1:Doing the dishes.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man, tell you what. What's that smell? It's laundry, freshly folded laundry, no. So after you get the connection like the practical connection done, then you can start talking about how you feel and what's going on and you get past just the surfacey stuff.
Speaker 3:And when we're busy we really stay in the surfacey stuff and so we have to fight, because the easiest thing to do is just watch a show together and laugh I mean especially when you're tired and so we find times to either carve out even like we'd carve out two hours of actual, intensive, intentional time. It goes a long way, and so whenever we drive to see my parents they live in Waco or to go anywhere, we'll just get intentional time, even in the car. Sometimes it's running errands and can be dorky, but we can actually get real Home Care. Interact is so our clients are agencies, so we do marketing for home care agencies and so we have about 80 clients across the United States and they pay monthly. And we do SEO, we do AdWords and we do recruiting, help and consulting and content creation and all that stuff.
Speaker 2:So you don't even get into the care side. You handle lead, almost lead generation for these pieces.
Speaker 3:And recruiting.
Speaker 2:So is it a franchise model? So you sell the home care name to these facilities?
Speaker 3:no, no, so we so like um, a visiting angels is a name of a franchise, right, so they would be our clients. So a group that you know group will own 10 franchises. All 10 of them will get our services of recruiting and marketing. That's great and we take care of them. Great customer service. I have 11 employees. They're just the coolest. I mean great people.
Speaker 3:Good concept we have some AI and some machine learning and some things that are kind of cutting edge, especially in home care, but really we just want to grow, I mean, and do it the right way. Not everybody's a perfect client for us. We're not the least expensive, we're not the most expensive. We just really want to do good work and scale appropriately, and so I'm not trying to get rich quick anymore. I want to own something that's actually going to last. And one thing that's not going away is the home care industry. I mean, that's for sure and it's not going to shrink because robots can't do it in the future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's stay in Austin.
Speaker 1:Okay, since we're talking about your work and kids and all that kind of stuff, a couple of things that people wouldn't probably know about you is that you are an inspiring, I think, kind of ebbs and flows inspiring stand-up comedian, yes, and you know, obviously Austin's a big comedy hub these days, yeah, and of course you've got a lot of things going on, more comedy popping up here and there. I'm interested in your take on Kill Tony Sure, because I think we've talked about this at some point, but I'd love to hear your take Kill Tony. For those of you who don't know, if you're listening to a podcast and you don't know Kill Tony, you're probably under a rock. But anyway, they bring people up on stage, they get like a minute to try out some material and then they get blasted, in a sense or once in a while they get cheered and blown up and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1:So what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3:I love the concept. Well, I mean, they've been doing this, for it's just now got really popular in the zeitgeist of comedy. It's over 10 years, yeah, and it was in la for a long time every week too.
Speaker 3:It's there's really impressive yeah and I think uh well, first of all, I love stand-up comedy. I don't do it for money. In fact, the times I've done it, my goal was just not to have to buy two drinks to get on stage or have to bring five friends for it to work. So I've done open mics. I really started by hosting conferences and I'm like the on-the-stage host doing.
Speaker 3:MC and I get to do like one minute or two minutes of little funnies in between, while you're stalling or something like that or doing skits or games or something like that, and so it's more of like I'm an aspiring Jimmy Kimmel or Jimmy Fallon more than. I am like what's the deal with airplane?
Speaker 2:bathrooms.
Speaker 3:You know so, but I like it. The funny stuff for me that I've ever done is mostly about my kids. I mean my kids are funny. I mean hopefully they take after dad. About my kids. I mean my kids are funny, I mean hopefully they take after dad.
Speaker 3:Most of the time it's them getting in trouble at school when they say a joke and they shouldn't, and I get called in and they're like, hey, it's just about, there's a time and a place for jokes. And sometimes the school is not the appropriate place and my wife looks at me and she's like, yeah, he's been trying to learn that for 43 years.
Speaker 3:And so I mean that's where most of my funny stories happen, or just me being dumb. So I love stand-up comedy More than that, I just love storytelling. I mean it's so funny and my favorite stand-up comedians are all storytellers. I mean, I think Pete Holmes is probably the funniest comedian I know. He's my favorite.
Speaker 1:His style is just so great. Yeah, and I think you know shane gillis is great and I think dan soder is awesome. If you don't know any of those people, google, google them. They're amazing. I would put a link in the show notes, but that's just an extra step. Google, yeah, just google them.
Speaker 3:They're amazing. So, um, but yeah, most of the time, like in my family, we'll sit around like after thanksgiving, and they'll be like all right, brit, you got to tell which story do you want to tell, yeah, and they'll be like all right, britt, you got to tell which story do you want to tell. And they'll be like, oh, do this one? They're like no, no, no, do this one.
Speaker 3:And so there's like a there's like a menu of stories that we've just collected over the years that are just fun, and so that's probably my favorite thing. I would build a stage if I could stand on it and do it to nobody, I mean, I just love, would you?
Speaker 1:would you, if you got called up, called up on kill tony, would you do it?
Speaker 3:uh, yeah I mean I would do it for the experience. Sure, I mean just because it's crazy, but it's not my style. One minute isn't enough.
Speaker 2:I can't really get into stuff. It's not. Are you more of a storyteller, much more not like?
Speaker 3:set up punchline tag. You know that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2:I kind of try to do. The practice piece is like I think about, like if I was asked say say something funny, do something funny. I always have a go-to story right, Like the first thing I'm going to say or you know, I have a couple in my back of the bank of my mind. So what's yours?
Speaker 3:Oh, the quick one or the go-to story.
Speaker 1:You can't do that to him. You're up one minute, mitch, go go.
Speaker 2:I mean I would start with the story that I've already told on. This was when I found $3,500 when running.
Speaker 2:That is the best story, what, and I'm not going to tell that. Okay, so I do morning runs, okay, and so I was doing my cool down and it was really dark. I had my headlamp on and I was just kind of meandering my way back home about a half a mile from home and I look down, I see it's flapping in the window a hundred dollar bill. I was like hell yeah, look around, grab it, stick in my pocket. No problem, take one more step. There's two more hundred dollar bills, stick them in my pocket. I look up with my headlamp because you can see the horizon and the, the. There are probably tens to 20s of hundreds just flapping in the grass and so I'm, at this point, freaking out, thinking it's like a no country for old man situation.
Speaker 3:Right, right, right, right right. So I go. Who's gonna come looking for this? Yes, Right.
Speaker 2:So I'm looking around making sure no one's around and I start grabbing up as many as I can, okay, and at this point I start thinking like I mean, we're talking 10, 20 and my hands are too full, so I start stuffing my pockets full of these things and I'm like this is something's not right, like this is scary. And so I ended up leaving a lot of money on the table because I was like I can't take any more, because at this point I got to call the cops or something.
Speaker 3:Come look at this, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I looked in the bushes for bags of drugs and all that stuff Nothing, so I get home it. So I get home, it's still early, no one's up. I go into the garage and I lay it all because it's all wet. I lay it all out and I count up it's thirty four, thirty five hundred dollars in hundreds and at this point I am like scared because I know there's still probably like three grand sitting out there and somebody's going to come look.
Speaker 3:It's the best worst thing that can happen.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so I even thought back to like. Was I close enough for those, those Amazon cameras, the ring cameras, to see me Like I don't want anything coming back to me? Right Type of situation. But I'm very noticeable.
Speaker 3:I'm a big redheaded dude, right Like I'm one of one Charlemagne's little brother. Thank, you.
Speaker 2:So we were uh. So I take a picture of it and I send it to a bunch of friends that are local, that watch all the forums like, oh hey, I lost my cat next door and stuff like that, just hey has anybody heard anything about any missing cash?
Speaker 2:just to make sure. And I send the picture and immediately my wife comes down from where she was at and I wasn't going to tell her because I didn't text her. I texted our friends and so our friends, my. There's one lady in our group that loose lips, sing ships type girl. She tells stories over like if I tell you her something it's going to hit the rest of the group pretty fast. Okay. So she loose lipped, me snitched. My wife comes down and she's looking at this money like where in the world, what are we going to do? And she starts looking a little closer, a little closer she goes what?
Speaker 1:is that.
Speaker 2:And we look at it and it says not a movie picture use, only not legal tinder. It was all money from a movie thing, yeah fake, but it was so real looking because it was a movie set right, right. So anyway, that was it that's I haven't. So from a comedic standpoint, I haven't figured out a great ending to wrap the story.
Speaker 3:Yeah, then you just make up a story.
Speaker 1:You just got on Amazon and started ordering shit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no.
Speaker 2:That's a good way.
Speaker 3:That's a good way.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to end it, get the Lambo ready, and so I spent the rest of the afternoon canceling all the orders from Amazon I made that morning. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I would like a good capper to it, but I can't think of anything at this point.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean just the storytelling of it at all, oh, the best.
Speaker 1:Imagining yourself going through that scenario, see, but like Kill Tony.
Speaker 3:Would be hard to do that in.
Speaker 1:No, you couldn't, it's not for it.
Speaker 2:It's not for it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my favorite one. Oh gosh, what's one I do. So my son, brooks, like me, never met a stranger, sweetest kid in the world. They have a rainy day, so they're in the gym, the all-purpose room, in their elementary school I think he's in second, third grade at this point. They're all sitting around crisscross applesauce waiting to go back to their class and they're just kind of having to hang around and they don't want to start everybody being crazy. So they said anybody know a joke?
Speaker 3:So one little kid, some idiot kid like raises his hand. He's like knock, knock. Everybody's like meow, meow. He's like orange. And they're like orange who? And he's like orange. You glad I didn't say banana, which is not how you tell the joke, right? And so Brooks, like eye rolls, he's like this kid. So he has this confidence of like well, I can follow that. So he raises his hand and they're like Brooks, do you have one? My son's name is Brooks. I hope he hears this. He'd be so embarrassed. He's like I have one. He's like okay, okay, he goes. What does a gerbil and a cigarette have in common?
Speaker 2:And so the teachers are like oh my God oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God.
Speaker 3:And so everybody goes. What?
Speaker 2:He goes. They're both completely harmless until you put them in your mouth and light them on fire.
Speaker 3:That was a great story. And they're like where did you hear that joke? And he's like my dad told it to me. And I'm like damn it. And so we go to the principal's office. We're like, hey, there was an incident with Brooks. He told a joke that wasn't very appropriate, because we're not supposed to talk about smoking or cigarettes or whatever, or lighting small animals on fire.
Speaker 3:And so my older son's with us and he goes. You know, if you think about it, it's actually an anti-smoking joke and we were like you're missing the point, homie.
Speaker 2:We're not supposed to do that. It was like that was a bad thing. He wasn't saying that was a good thing.
Speaker 1:I feel like that joke could also be said like bad to put it in your mouth, worse to put it in the other end yeah, right, you know what I mean. When I heard gerbil, I immediately thought of Richard Gere and all that horrible, that terrible old.
Speaker 3:What's it called Old wives' tale? Yeah, whatever, I think 1990, that just spread like wildfire around the whole country. So anyway, that's like silly stuff. I mean, I think about like one time Brooks just made, just made, oh, we were talking about how are some words words and others aren't.
Speaker 3:Like like we were like okay, easy words, that like f-i-n-t fint is not a word but it should be, because it's just like normal letters, it's not like a bunch of z's and x's next to each other or whatever. So I was like, hey, man, you know what I'm trying to be, like creative dad, yeah you know. And I'm like, hey, man, you make. Man, you know what I'm trying to be like creative dad, you know.
Speaker 3:And I'm like, hey, man, you make it up, you can do whatever you want, have that be your own word, just make it up. And he's like yeah, you know what you're right. So the next day, hey, we had an incident, blah, blah, blah. So he started calling kids you're such a fint. And everybody's like what is that? And he goes don't worry about it. And so he makes this up and all the kids in the class start calling each other fint and they think it's something racist or terrible. And they're like my dad told me it's okay. And I'm like no, well, anyway. So the teacher who, by the way, is a real fint, don't worry about it and like so we make this up. And I'm like I promise this is as innocent as it could be, but just the wherewithal for him to go, don't worry about if you don't know. You don't know.
Speaker 3:and he just starts calling people fint and they're like he's such a fan. They're like I know, isn't he you?
Speaker 1:know the move is to keep it on the dl so funny.
Speaker 3:To me that's great. It's like a boys club you gotta, you gotta love your kid for that dude I love the savvy of that, like understanding the nuance brilliant I mean my older one, my oldest son, reed, is funny but he has a really dark sense of humor. So anything we're like. You remember frozen 2, do you remember? Did y'all watch frozen 2? I haven't seen either of them he's got a boy.
Speaker 1:Sad days, I got a girl, yeah I have boys terrible scene.
Speaker 3:I love it, okay, okay. So I um, there's a part where where Olaf is acting out the whole first movie and he's like, oh, at least his parents are dead, and it cuts and he goes his parents are dead. Silent in the movie theater, one kid goes ha yes, and I'm like what are you doing?
Speaker 1:And that's Reed, Reed, 10 years old. Like, what are you doing? He's like that's Reed, that's Reed, 10 years old. Like yes, yes, he goes.
Speaker 3:oh, that's funny Like this sigh of relief and I'm like what are you doing? That is so dark, oh me, Anyway.
Speaker 1:So yeah, immediately girls start crying. Yes, I mean, yes, I mean bro.
Speaker 2:You remember Passion of the Christ, that?
Speaker 3:movie that came out. It was a solid transition. Listen, get out of here.
Speaker 2:From first to sixth. Yeah Cool. So I walked in the theater and it was hugely popular. I walked in the theater and it was real. Everyone was like chit-chatting, chit-chatting, I go, he dies in the end, right before Did you say that. Yeah, I said he died. Hey, heads up guys, he dies. I don't want to spoil the word and everybody everyone's like come on and you know there's some laughs, my buddies are laughing, whatever. And then cut to the actual crucifixion. We're all we oh, of course.
Speaker 3:Of course, when I left, I was a pariah, I was like worse than judas.
Speaker 2:So there you go, the guy who makes fun of jesus, yeah there's. There's a thing I used to do in movie. Speaking of movie theaters, there's a thing I used to do in movie theaters where, if I was, if it was a full theater, I used to take my shirt off during the movie to see if anyone noticed that I was shirtless while we're watching the movie.
Speaker 3:That is bananas. Yeah, you know that right, really.
Speaker 2:Yes, yeah, you know that right, really, yes, you don't do that, bart, you haven't done that.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent, a hundred percent.
Speaker 2:No one's taking their shirt off.
Speaker 1:Nobody's ever done that. To be fair, when I was in high school, my boys and I would take our shirt off because we thought we were cool and we thought we had six packs. So there's that.
Speaker 2:But not just for the purpose that you clearly did it for, and I had a dad bod then too, so it wasn't for love you were bringing the dad bod before it was even like a thing, you were just like next level. It was when they called you fat, not dad. Bod Right minor detail.
Speaker 3:Did you ever see the movie Coco?
Speaker 2:The Disney movie Coco Love that movie.
Speaker 3:If you don't cry at the end of that then you have a sad, dusty, robot heart. I'm talking to you so we watch it over thanksgiving when it first comes out, and it's one of the ones where the the seats in the movie theater like the arms come up so you can like. So I got both my boys on either side and it's thanksgiving. We're thinking about family. We've been around family. I mean we're in south texas where my wife grew up, and so like it is like pretty much mexico, right, and I'll see a white guy every once in a while and I'll look at him and be like sup dog, you know. And so I'm telling you we're all packed theater. We're at the very back At the end. I don't want to spoiler alert.
Speaker 3:Okay, at the end there's a very emotional scene and I'm okay to cry in a movie. I'm one tear guys I'm. It is dead silent in the theater and I realize I've been like inhaling and there's no more room for air and I'm like and I and I just go and I just honk like a goose and I'm like a pokemon, carried where that, where the squinty eye, like they, the, the tears are falling out and everybody looks up at me Because you're in the back and I'm in the back and I go and it's just a wall and I'm like, oh God, I'm just so embarrassed.
Speaker 3:Christina's like pull it together.
Speaker 2:You were like full on man crying. That was awesome. So when I was an 18-year-old.
Speaker 1:In college I grew up my whole life I only cried. My brother could get me to cry just by making fun of me, and then I figured out how to shut it down. I just would never cry. So I never cried all the way through high school for any real reason other than just like.
Speaker 1:And so I get to college and I take this Hispanic girl who's in the dorm area down the hall. I take her out to a movie. We go see Rudy like area next to you near down the hall I take her out to a movie.
Speaker 1:We go see rudy right, it just came out. He hates it because he's from that area, but uh, for those in california we had no idea what the real story was or anything. I don't want to get into it, but take her to rudy watching it and like I'm it's, it's rudy oh my gosh, and and I look over the girl and she's just kind of casually interested and I'm just starting to cry.
Speaker 3:And it's been like 10 years of holding back.
Speaker 1:I'm just like and then I can look over. And she is not happy. She's like I don't know where you're from, but in my Guys don't cry, guys don't cry the machismo guy Colter not crying over this movie.
Speaker 3:My wife is Hispanic, she, she's from south texas, you know, and they all speak spanish. Harlingen. Yeah, okay, my wife lived in mcallen for many, many years the valley, valley girls the other girl the other valley girls, um, so there was a lot of cultural.
Speaker 3:I don't know why, I just thought it wouldn't be as big of a change, but we had to learn a lot of culture together and the differences between, one of which is they didn't know my name. I know they saw the wedding invitation, but they called me Rick for the first seven years of our marriage.
Speaker 2:No, they didn't On purpose. We're seven years in. Was it a joke?
Speaker 3:No, no, no, they were just like hey, where's Rick? And Christina's like hmm, was it a joke? No, no, no, they were just like hey, where's Rick? And Christina's like hmm, and she's like where's Rick? And she's like oh no, do you think his name is Rick Knighton this whole time? And the thing is, because I go down there, I speak like four-year-old Spanish, like me like milk Ringo, spanish Me want more tortillas and I help with dishes and I help with dishes and I'm like a sweet, quiet, meek boy.
Speaker 3:I literally have a mild-mannered alter ego, like Clark Kent.
Speaker 2:That's what I was wondering when I go south Texas, how that interaction would be. I want to see you at a family reunion with them. You being the way you are around, that type of family would be extraordinarily awesome to watch Like idle hands are the devil's playground right, so I'm just always kind of roaming around trying to help, keeping yourself busy Because I don't know what to do.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to sit there, because they also know I'm lying when I'm going, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:They only speak Spanish at the house. Almost all of them Dang yeah.
Speaker 3:I mean Christina's sister does speak English.
Speaker 2:You need to find the words that they're talking about you.
Speaker 3:Oh well, they did have a nickname for me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, what was the nickname?
Speaker 3:Wadito Chulo, which means small, light-skinned, very cute boy. It sounds better in Spanish, but that is 100% true. So they haven't had to call me by my name ever. They're like hi, Wadito Chulo. And I'm like I'll answer to that. That's fine with me, but they thought my name was Rick Rick Knighton. But they thought my name was.
Speaker 1:Rick Rick Knighton. Hi, I'm Rick.
Speaker 2:Knighton Dude, it was just so embarrassing. Actually it was a pretty sick name I mean, it sounds like a car dealer or a congressman. I don't know. I was thinking more like the captain of the football team.
Speaker 3:Rick Knighton yeah, yeah Like.
Speaker 2:Blue Mountain State style yes, yes, yes. So kind of wrapping up what I would love to talk about, kind of to put a bow on everything, because I've enjoyed our time together and talking about family and balance in life. What other elements in this space are you feeling that, as a dad, as an entrepreneur, ceo, as a husband, what do you think is the main piece that keeps you driving forward? With all those pieces in place, what, what's the kind of core value that kind of keeps you moving forward?
Speaker 3:yeah, that's a really great question. Um, I started doing counseling for the first time. It's so funny how prideful I was. I was like when I'm gonna pay money for someone to tell me what I already know and I'll, instead of getting into counseling. We haven't talked about any of that yet. It's more the motivation why I think I am a performer at heart. I love people's opinion.
Speaker 1:Are you a seven? Yeah, seven on the engram.
Speaker 3:I'm like a seven with a seven wing, but I also have a seven wing. I'm like 70, the most 70est seven you can be.
Speaker 3:I think I learned Google Enneagram, if you ever want to, or I mean I'll, I'll talk your ear off about it. I could talk about it forever, but I will always want to be a performer. I love the opinion of others, but I put it in such high regard. I was doing good, biblically high integrity actions for the wrong reasons and that made me a good guy. But I didn't want to just be a good guy Like I would call. I mean, you remember this, I did.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is such a good one, this is wild.
Speaker 3:I did 20 on Tuesday. I would text or call 20 people every Tuesday and encourage them and I got into that habit and that is a good, high value outcome. But we've got to be honest. It felt really good to get the reciprocation back and have the opinion of others be man. Brit is the best. Brit really cares about us. Blah, blah, blah blah.
Speaker 3:I did that from 2016 until 2024 and when I stopped doing it four people have reached out to me since then I realized I was donating blood to almost every relationship I had, except for the five or 10 that I really really hold. In that regard, that lesson made me realize that I was doing good things for the wrong reason that were ultimately selfish. I could have had the same action with a different heart behind it, and that's why I wanted to change. So with being a dad, I could do good things that I know good dads do for the wrong reason. So I want to make sure that the integrity, the high value I put on my time, making sure that I'm being a good disciplinarian, but also caring about them, but also not I want to just be a buddy, I want to be their dad.
Speaker 3:I wanted that to come from a place of a well that I can draw from the right place.
Speaker 3:The motivation behind it was good, and not just I want to look good, being a good dad or being a good husband, or whatever that definition is, which normally has to do with what other people think.
Speaker 3:And so I realized I'm obsessed with other people's opinions of me, and it curbs my decision making and my actions so much that I just got sick of myself. And so nowadays people are like you, okay, I'm like, yeah, I'm fine, but I'm not like a clown anymore either. So there's a place where I'm just I think I'm praying hopefully more comfortable in my own skin and even if my actions are the same, they're coming from a better place and I just feel more confident in them. And you know, bart and I have been friends, like I said, for eight years. You remember how I kind of used to be like always butterfly from flower to flower, flower, to make sure I'm feeding this ego and this need to be loved and liked, and I think I just don't do that anymore, not to say I'm like cured, yeah, but I think I'm coming to it, I'm coming from a different place and even if it looks the same, so yeah.
Speaker 1:What's cool about that is we had that conversation and he connected me with a young guy who was kind of struggling with a life path. He was a trainer. That's why he connected me and we sat down and we talked and I and you know, 25 years old, 26 year old he has such a black and white framework of like I stopped doing this because I really because it was selfish, and now I'm doing this because I'm following the path of Jesus, right, right, and it was so black and white. I was like what, if you're really good at this? And you just turned it and did what Brit did. I was like trying to explain to him, but you could tell it was just like a little thick right or what he was ready to handle.
Speaker 1:But it's like it's so much about, like the reason we do it, not the action, like you can do the same action and it can be filled, soul reviving kind of cathartic, or it can be completely soul-sucking and and empty I would be.
Speaker 3:I would be lying if I didn't want to be silly and funny. And I love encouraging people too, like I actually loved doing my 20 on Tuesday, not because it's like some nefarious way for me to garner favor, to manipulate people. I really just love encouraging people. But if it comes from a different place, it's like where you start to hit the top of the mountain. I still want to go to the top of the mountain, I just want to start over here and take a different path to get there. And I think the re, the realization, was as valuable as the behavior change Me. Understanding it was actually in itself the finish line, and so that's probably been my biggest thing. And you know, I still have days where I look in the mirror and I'm like immediately negative to myself and I'm like man Brit, get your act together. Immediately negative to myself, and I'm like man brit, get your act together. And I think it's a lot of his comparison.
Speaker 2:But for me I'm trying to be kind and more gentle with myself because I'm still figuring it out new levels, new devils is what for sure, what I always kind of say it sounds like it's still a work in progress, too sure. I hope it is forever, I mean yeah, new levels, new devils.
Speaker 3:I'm learning this and it has a whole new set of stuff that I'm gonna have to deal with now and a new job, and you know I just started this in october, so like there's been life change. But man, I've, I'm in a happier, healthier place and nothing's actually changed other than just my outlook and my perspective. That's good, and I feel like god has been very gentle with me. Um, I don't feel, um, I don't feel judged. Yeah, I don't feel. Um, I feel convicted, which is different than feeling judged or ashamed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that is different. Yeah, I know what you mean. Well, britt, thank you so much for sharing. Uh, thanks for coming out. Um, is there anything that you want to promote? Anything you have coming up?
Speaker 3:No, yeah, oh, I mean, if anybody's in the home care space, we would love to help with marketing. I also just do those conferences where I do sales training and consulting.
Speaker 2:Where can they find you? We'll put it in the show notes.
Speaker 1:They can just call me. I don't have a website. We'll put your email. Yeah, that'll be great.
Speaker 3:I just do sales training and fun stuff like that. Really I just try to make it really fun. I do Enneagram training for corporate events All that stuff. So you know, I kind of use it as my excuse to do a little bit of stand-up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, hopefully they learn a little bit as well. Entertain Exactly, I love it, man. Well, thanks so much for taking the time. This was really fun, guys. Well, thank you. This is Dadbots and Dumbbells. Thanks so much for listening. I feel like Bart has something else to say, because he likes to give me the last word but not really Go ahead.
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Speaker 2:How's your hair growth coming?
Speaker 1:Hard to say.
Speaker 2:I feel like mine looks good, but I see it all the time.
Speaker 1:It time it depends on if the sun's in my hair or not. What about you? Well, I, I have a monkey butt up here. So harder, harder to know on a day-to-day basis. Uh, you know, sometimes I'm just like did I just grow more hair? It's longer and I'm like just combing it.
Speaker 3:You're doing the comb over the. I can't tell it's vacuuming right on the fryer so tall. You're trying, you're trying to build a cul-de-sac in the back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much that's where we're at. That's, that's what the dad bob's dumbbells is all about.
Speaker 3:I can't uh.
Speaker 1:You are fully here you've got, he's got jerry curl the whole long curly hair. It is impressive it's.
Speaker 3:It's one step away from like justin timberlake when we were in high school I mean I would say bye, bye, bye, all right.
Speaker 2:Well, thanks so much for listening. You guys have a great day. We love you. Bye.