The Dad Bods and Dumbbells Podcast
The hosts Mitch and Bart discuss fitness, fatherhood, and guy stuff to help men live a great life, have fun, laugh, and get a little more fit in this weekly Podcast.
The Dad Bods and Dumbbells Podcast
Powerlifting, NBA Playoffs, & Cam Hanes’ new Book
We explore competitive powerlifting as middle-aged fitness enthusiasts, breaking down the key differences between training for strength versus muscle growth, while also touching on NBA playoff predictions and Cam Haines' upcoming book release.
• Discussing current NBA playoff matchups with focus on Lakers-Timberwolves and other key series
• Announcing Cam Haines' new book "Undeniable" coming May 6th, highlighting profiles of extraordinary performers
• Detailed breakdown of a powerlifting competition experience at Lift ATX including judging criteria and competition format
• Preparation strategies for first-time powerlifters including equipment needs and training approaches
• Comparison between bodybuilding and powerlifting training methodologies and their different effects on the body
• How powerlifting principles can improve general fitness training for clients in their 40s and 50s
• The importance of proper form and technique over maximum weight when preparing for competition
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Welcome to Dad, bods and Dumbbells. My name is Mitch.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm Bart, we're back.
Speaker 1:We're back. Thanks so much. We're taking a couple weeks off. Lazy, did you miss us? Yeah, I think they did. I think they did.
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Speaker 1:I could tell I did dude. It's tough to miss you. Mitch gave me the biggest hug when I walked in the door today, but it's because you're bosoms.
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Speaker 1:Yes, solutions pharmacy. Thank you, guys. So today we are going to do a little playoff preview of the NBA playoffs, of course because Bart is the NBA guy. I am learning and I am trying to do my best to bet on these games and I'm losing everything. So we'll talk about the playoffs. We have a little sneak preview of a book that we are publishing within my literary agency. The Fed agency is publishing Cam Haines book, so we're going to talk a little bit about that. May the 6th it's coming out.
Speaker 1:I want to talk about your powerlifting experience at lift ATX that you went to a competition and saw and then talk a little bit about your experience so far training in the muscle side, but also how it affects your training as a professional trainer. So let's get started, man. So tell me. Tell me what you're feeling about the Lakers.
Speaker 2:Okay so, and if you're listening to this and you're not a Lakers fan, you're probably gonna hear stuff that you probably would love to hear, cause I'm not that excited right now. The Lakers played like arse in game one. They keep doing this for like Luca has 15 in the first quarter that everything looks great, and then, like the second quarter, they just like lost the you know wheels came off and the other and and the Timberwolves just kicked their butt. The second second game yesterday last night was different First quarter by 20 and they just they're able to kind of kept, kept, keep the lead the whole time, but they just kind of limped into the finish line.
Speaker 2:So it's not the inspired Lakers that are just firing on all cylinders with the defense. They're flying around and tipping these deflected passes and catching steals and throwing alley-oops. So I think if you're a Lakers fan, your thought is, hey, they still haven't unlocked some of that amazing play they showed in the last half of the season, so maybe that's still coming.
Speaker 2:But the concerned Lakers fan is like it just feels a little like maybe it's like the stage is a little big, not for LeBron, not for Luka, but also, he was 0 for 6 last night from 3. And I mean, to his credit, the first quarter. He shot off four 3s that were open and he just missed every one of them, and so he wasn't afraid of the moment, but he was missing everything.
Speaker 2:So it was like, okay, well, maybe those will go in, but anyway. So it's like it's a kind of mixed bag right now. I mean they come back and they kick ass, game three and everyone's back on the leg.
Speaker 1:I mean, they're going to Minnesota, so that's going to be a tough place. Yeah, sure. And although the Lakers are third and the Timberwolves are sixth in the playoff rankings, they have a similar score. Well, are sixth in the playoff rankings, they have a similar score.
Speaker 2:Well, they have the same basic record. Yeah, like the Timberwolves were 49 and 33. The Lakers were 50 and 32. So I mean essentially like the same record and the Timberwolves won like 17 of 20 of the last game, so they were on fire.
Speaker 1:They have a lot of momentum. Ant-man is crushing it.
Speaker 2:But sometimes that's a when you've been winning a lot, but sometimes that's a when you've been winning a lot. Then you get a little used to winning. You're not quite sure why you're winning.
Speaker 1:You're just winning.
Speaker 2:And then you lose and sometimes you get a little like discombobulated. So anyway, we'll see how Game 3 is going to be a real indicator of like how this series is going to go. Again, if Lakers come back and win Game 3, go up 2-1. In Minnesota and win, game three go up 2-1.
Speaker 1:In Minnesota, I think everyone gets really confident, and then they win it in five.
Speaker 1:I mean, if they win this next one in Minnesota, I think they finish it out. But I think what I'm most excited about, I think there's a few games that I'm most excited about. I want the Warriors-Lakers so bad in conference semifinals. The Warriors Jimmy Butler, is like playoff king. Steph Curry can't miss. He is hilarious to watch because he throws up these shots and you're like there is no flipping way. My son and I watch these games and go. What is happening? How this has never been done.
Speaker 2:Everyone else in the world. It's a terrible shot to Steph. Curry, it's like the world. It's a terrible shot. Yeah to Jeff Curry it's like, it's like, it's a great job probable how he does this, so I'm looking forward to that.
Speaker 1:Of course, I love Luca because he was a Dallas Mavs. I love his style, yeah, um. And then the Thunder. I really want to see if they are true real deal can make it deep in the playoffs.
Speaker 2:So there's some really intriguing games I want to see. So this, the series right now. That's amazing is the Clippers-Nuggets. Clippers won Game 1 in overtime. Clippers won Game 2 by 3. Kawhi Leonard was unbelievable in Game 2.
Speaker 1:He's back, baby.
Speaker 2:Like 15 for 7, 18 shooting. The only ones he missed were like three-pointers.
Speaker 1:He was 4 for 7 from 3.
Speaker 2:I mean it's 18 shooting. The only ones he missed were three-pointers. He was four for seven from three. I mean it's just insane shooting. So I mean you get that much of Kawhi and then of course his defense and all that kind of stuff, yeah. So lots of storylines, lots of things to look at. I think the Thunder Grizzlies, that's a watch. They're going to sweep that. Nuggets Clippers is a great series. That's probably going to go six or seven. Yeah, lakers.
Speaker 1:Timberwolves, we'll see Nuggets Warriors.
Speaker 2:I think the Rockets will come back. I think Rockets are going to get a couple of games. I think that goes six. Other side of the bracket, cavs are going to wipe out the the heat yeah, pacers up 2-0 on the Bucs that's.
Speaker 1:That's a weird one, pretty evenly matched, but yeah, I think the Pacers got this pistons now my cousin luke coaches in the piston oh, he does. On the bench he's one of the assistant man. They're back to being the bad boys I love it.
Speaker 2:That's what I love like. So he's on the bench, so I'm already rooting for them and they play like great and I I just love when the knicks get shut down it's, so you know it's so fun, so I steven a smith bitch and complain about his knicks and you know yeah anyway. So there you go and then clip, or celtics magic. I mean, come on, celtics, all the way yeah, um, yeah.
Speaker 1:The celtics are gonna make it through pretty easily. I would love to see the pistons make a good run. The pacers I'm an indiana boy, I don't really care I like halliburton, halliburton's cool.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I like him rate ranked overrated.
Speaker 1:Ranked overrated.
Speaker 2:Most overrated by the players. Yeah, that's right, that's awesome. Actually, I like Siakam is quite good too. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, let me tell you some of the bets that I've been losing. So, because it's illegal To really bet In Texas, I do this pick six. It's DraftKings pick six, so it doesn't. It's so dumb but I I'm like I pulled in. So basically it's this you pick six players and you can go over under all these different variations. You can say, hey, I think Luke is going to have over nine and a half rebounds or under, and then there's also like multipliers, so if you just want to go over over, and they're always inflated. So this is what I did last night and this is the closest I've been to making $200 for $5 bet and I'm only putting five bucks on this like this is you got all six, you got a hit, you had to hit four at least to get any payback.
Speaker 1:That's even money. Five, you get like half, and then six, you win it all okay.
Speaker 2:So, luca Don chicks, I had more on nine and a half rebound would win more if you know how to say his name Don chicks, donks Luca.
Speaker 1:Luca had 12 magic Luca a half rebounds. You would win more if you knew how to say his name, by the way, don Chicks, donks, luka. Luka had 12 rebounds, so I'm green there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're green there.
Speaker 1:Anthony Edwards, he would have more than 5.5 rebounds. That was a risky one, but he had six. Great Got that one. Ja Morant, I said he would have more than 22 and a half points, which I thought was a really easy bet. He hit 22, right 23.
Speaker 1:Oh, wow Just in the last minute because he basically shut down and stopped playing in the fourth quarter. Here's where I went wrong. I thought Giannis was going to have a bad game because they had 32 and a half points, more or less. Oh, wow, I said less and he had 34. Okay, sga, I and he had 34. Okay, um, uh, sga. I don't know how to spell his say his name, but sga, the basic mvp of the league. Right now they have these things that's really cool where they have points, rebounds and assists combined, what it's going to be 43 and a half. Okay, he basically was shut down the entire game and he had 40, so I went over and I lost. And then lebron janes, a lock for 24 and a half points more 22 nope, he had 21 points, so I got screwed.
Speaker 1:I got half of them right, so tonight's gonna be a real tell of what I do.
Speaker 2:So we'll see. All right, we'll see. Good, let's, let's uh, for the sake of the listener here, let's move on, okay, so we have real quick yeah I got. I got ut season tickets to the football. Ut football you did?
Speaker 1:yes, I did. How'd you do that?
Speaker 2:I've got a buddy who's an alumni, and I said like let's, we're gonna get three seats with you, and so yeah so you can bring your you, your wife and your son, yeah, and then we'll give them away or sell them when we need to, but yeah, hey, do you want to go to Austin FC game with me?
Speaker 1:we have really great season tickets yeah, you, you and your son and me and my son. That'd be fucking, that'd be cool. Yeah, let's do it, okay, because there's a lot of games coming up that I know my family, we get tired of going.
Speaker 2:They do I love going, but yeah let's go to austin fc, all right.
Speaker 1:So you know, bar as well as anybody else, that I am a literary agent and I'm uh, pretty good at it. You're the best.
Speaker 1:So, young, a young rising star in the literary agency. Well, we have an amazing book, new York times bestseller, going to be calling the shot. His second book is Cam Haines. My hero, my man, the dude Cam Haines. It's coming out May the 6th. We call him the dude, the goat, um. He's doing cool things. This book is called um undeniable and it profiles all the people that he's had on his lift, run shoot, podcast and interacted with like a lance armstrong, that type of thing, and he profiles what makes an undeniable person, what their performance is, what they do. That's special and it's a really cool book. I think it's probably. I loved endure, yeah, and I love this book. I think it's a great.
Speaker 1:It's a really cool book. I think it's probably. I loved Endure and I love this book. I think it's a great. It's a great sequel to the book, so I think it's going to be even more successful. It's coming out May the 6th, so pre-order that book so you can get it. It's going to sell out pretty fast. I think more than likely he's going to be on every outlet.
Speaker 2:I mean he doesn't love doing media. He'll be on Rogan. Of course he's going to hit the major, but he'll go on all the major, probably on Fragrant. Yeah, he'll be.
Speaker 1:This book is going to propel him to ultimately being even bigger than he's ever been. So you know, humble dude Lives in Eugene, Oregon. Love the guy. I think he's going to do cool things. His son is doing even cooler things with the marathons. He's doing a lot of extraordinary things. Hopefully we'll get him on the podcast one of these days, but check out.
Speaker 2:Undeniable His son's gotten jacked lately.
Speaker 1:Dude scary, jacked Dude like scary.
Speaker 2:It's like he hit puberty All of a sudden. He's just jacked. He's like breaking so many records Good for him, man it's next level.
Speaker 1:He's going to do Leadville in August. Um, hopefully I get to crew them. That'd be fun. Um, all right. So May the 6th, make sure you pick up the book undeniable, and you can pre-order the book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely Go on.
Speaker 1:Amazon uh, pre-order the book and uh, it's going to be a New York times bestseller almost immediately.
Speaker 2:You know, in the audio books can come out. It's already out. The audio book for this is already. You can buy it, yeah. So, yeah, a lot of people like to listen. And because you is, he does he read it.
Speaker 1:yes, oh, he reads it he reads it, so it's a really good. It's a he does a really good job with reading it. It's just his tone. Anybody that I have that does even nick bear's book. He, he just finished his audio book, yeah, for his book that's coming out in june and uh, ultimately it has a way better uh success rate when the author reads it and kim does a good job with it. So, anyway, check out that book. I wanted to throw that out there before that, but in the meantime I saw on Instagram not because you texted me, I saw on your Instagram that you got to uh experience a powerlifting competition. Live at lift the, the legendary lift ATX.
Speaker 2:Yes, how was it? What was it like? So, uh, yeah, this is cool because I knew it was coming up and it was a little early to do it as the powerlifting show that I wanted to do, but it was like perfect opportunity to go there. I knew a couple of the guys that were competing, a couple of guys that I see there all the time when I train there, and so my buddy was in town. We went there together, we hung out, watched.
Speaker 1:Buddy.
Speaker 2:Who's this buddy? Uh, old, who's this mysterious buddy that I just found out about? He likes to be low profile. No, my buddy, tony. Uh, he was in town. We went to the show. Uh, you know, it was all day so we kind of like it was like the, the women and the like youth were in the morning and then they kind of took an hour, two hour break and back at three they had all the big guys come out and like, do their like through the heavy lifts. And so a couple things I noted, like, first of all, they are able to switch weights, raise the, the height of the, the where the bar sits, within seconds it's incredible the speed in which these people that are working the the because you know, every person has a long
Speaker 2:yeah, different arm length, squat, height, all that kind of stuff. So they so they have your, your weight that you're going to do, plus the height your bar is going to be at, and they do it all within seconds and so it's just so smooth. How they get people in the other thing is there's three judges. There's a judge that stands right in front and she's the head judge this lady was the head judge and then there's two judges on the side looking at the squat or the bench press or whatever, from the side angle, and the lady will like raise her hand and say, like you know, whatever, if let's say it's bench press. So he said she'll say rack and he'll unrack the bar you.
Speaker 1:You do it on your own.
Speaker 2:You can't get spotters off um I maybe, but the bar, the, the position of the bar is so close to the end of your arm length that you basically just like it's very easy, it's not like that thing where you're trying like a typical bench where you kind of like have to lift it up and over. So you unrack, then you have to steady your body stillness and then she says bench, or whatever, like down or whatever, and you go down and you pause.
Speaker 1:How long?
Speaker 2:And then up and it's like a second or two, but it's like you need to come all the way down, stop your chest needs to see no movement, and then she'd say lift.
Speaker 2:And then you just oh dang. And then you have to wait for her to say rack, oh man. And it's the same thing with squat. It's like you get the bar off, you step back, you stand there knees locked until she says squat, and if you're moving around and unbalanced, she ain't going to stop you. So you have to step back. Boom boom, get in to stop you. So you have to step back. Boom boom, get in position. Okay, look at her, show her your balance and set and ready. She says squat. You drop all the way down. Now the people on the side are looking to make sure you get deep enough 90 degrees right, you gotta get 90, you got.
Speaker 2:Your hip has to get to your, your knee, basically so you're. And then and you push up. Now you don't have to pause at the bottom, so you just go down and come up.
Speaker 1:But you've got to get that 90 degree. So here's the thing, will they tell you.
Speaker 2:Two of the three judges. They all have little phones and just an app. It's just like yes or no, basically like good rep or bad rep, and you have to get two of the three judges have to give you a good rep, basically a white button for you to for that to count right. So you have to have at least the probably the front lady and somebody from the side has to say yes, and so you could do everything right and just get, but you didn't quite go down deep enough but they don't say good yep like that, no, no you have to do it, complete it complete it.
Speaker 2:You rack it and then within a couple of seconds you see if you passed or not.
Speaker 1:That's good, that's stressful.
Speaker 2:So you squat first, yeah, then you bench and you finish with deadlift.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome and so-. How long in between usually?
Speaker 2:Well, you get three attempts at all of the different events. So you get three attempts at squat three, attempts at all of the different events.
Speaker 1:So you get three attempts at squat three attempts at, and that's where you can increase your weight and stuff.
Speaker 2:Right. So the idea kind of is like, pick a weight that you know you can do to like get on the board with like so, like you think your squat max is like 315. Let's say it's just 315, like three plates. So you probably do 300, maybe 315. And then on your third one, maybe you're going for 330 or 335 or something like that. Right, like you, you felt really good at 315. You, you know that's the number you had to get and now we're going for 335. Let's see if we can kind of just blow it out of the water. Right same thing with bench. You know you take a little bit of conservative because with the pause and all the like different yeah, you know, I know my bench is gonna go.
Speaker 1:You don't want to be like?
Speaker 2:you don't want to be at your max on that first thing and then like, oh my god. And then you're like distracted by all these things you gotta remember because you have to be really locked in. Just lift, she says hold, she said down, pause, lift, you got to get all those things right oh, dude know so nervous.
Speaker 2:It's awesome because it's very, very true to like. You know, it's a sanctioned event. It's a sanctioned powerlifting event, and so, and then the the top people that win get blood drug tested or get yeah yeah, because it's because if you, if you get, if you place, yeah, you would be able to be eligible to go to another powerlifting event that was like more of a regional event or something how do they place it top three or like do you get qualified like top four, top five?
Speaker 2:but again there's, like you know, and the one that that we're going to sign up for, that you're going to sign up for yes, not yes um, there's 50 plus 40 plus, so plus. So they're broken into different categories. So you'll be the youngest of the 40 to 49 year old category, I'll be the youngest of the 50 to 59. And weight class too, yeah. So I had to sign up for 105 kilos, which is about 200, or 228, I think 230 maybe, and below.
Speaker 2:So you can be under that number. So if you come in way in at 226, you're good to go.
Speaker 1:So if you know you're more like 235 I don't know if I'm going to be able to cut to 200, dude you don't want to cut because you're going to lose all your strength trying to drop weight right. So anyway, I just, I think you got to just own.
Speaker 2:You want to be at the strongest you can be, which is probably what size you are now. Yeah, like you don just own, you want to be at the strongest you can be, which is probably what size you are now. Yeah, like you don't want to try to like.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're, if you're a really experienced power lifter yeah, I mean, you know you kind of cut weight like drop water and then like but you end up kind of screwing yourself because there was a guy that that was one of the guys I know at lift atx who basically cut. So he wanted to get to like the 90 kilo category. He made it but then he was so just drained and wiped out. He had no power, he didn't hit. He didn't hit any of his personal best, even though he's still like super strong guy. So he still hit. Uh, he still got like on the board but yeah, he was so disappointed in himself he missed all of his PRs.
Speaker 1:So how many of those people that placed failed their drug test? I don't. They don't tell you.
Speaker 2:Oh man, that would be a cool, I'd probably just do blood work and then and they'll find out in a week or two, like you know, because if you didn't, if something comes up and red flag, then you lose it and the next person probably gets drug.
Speaker 1:Sometimes I take stuff that they test for specific things. A lot of my prescriptions sometimes ding me. I don't know, dude, it's not TRT. So that's cool. Well, that's fun, man, I'm excited, I'm very nervous now.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So okay. So, as far as numbers go, so I've been lifting pretty regularly for the first time in a long time, so I know that I can do 320. Okay, I did. So. I know that I can do 320. Okay, I did that in a workout bench on bench. Okay, I did four, paused 320. Yes, I believe I can pause at 305, for sure. So let's just say 305, just to make sure. All right, I did deadlift, I did all my weight, because I added I got a new uh plate, uh, but I did 420, okay okay, that's the most way to have you put 420 assuming no, I did it well, you have to do I did it three times.
Speaker 2:You at last. Okay, it's you gotta.
Speaker 1:You're gonna squat first, you're gonna bench and then you're gonna deadlift last okay, so your neurological fatigue is gonna be a lot yeah and I'm terrible at the endurance of the muscles, so like that's why that Nebraska pyramid thing or whatever we the Ohio safety that I'm still doing, Cause I don't have a, I don't have lift biggie big anyway.
Speaker 1:Uh, so I did four, 20. I think I could do four, 50, uh, based on how it felt. Uh, and then I did three, 50, and then I did 350 three times on squat, okay, and then I failed at 385, one rep. So I don't know what that means exactly, but I went through the whole workout and then I get to the one rep and I failed at 385.
Speaker 2:Yeah, the challenge with the squat and I will just tell you because I am struggling with this is making sure that, yes, You're at 90 degrees. You're getting essentially below 90. I got to start stretching. I am struggling with this is making sure that, yes, you're at 90 degrees, you're getting essentially below 90. I got to start stretching and just because you, you know, you could be like, oh man, I got three. I got 350.
Speaker 2:That's my number, yeah. And then you go in there for lift day and you do 320 and they're like nope, didn't count. And you get the rep, you squat down, you come up, you rack Everything's good, no rep, damn. And you're like what the? And you're like not deep enough and you're like so you just, this is one of those things where it's like what you want to do is put a camera right at the level of your torso and just watch.
Speaker 2:So when I train, I video most everything, especially on squat bench and like deadlift, and I send it to James to look at and say are we going low enough? We see anything you know? Just just so he a knows he also is looking at like the speed of my bar, and we'll talk about that as we get into like strength versus hypertrophy. But he's looking at like the speed of my bar, he's looking at depth, all those things. We're just trying to make sure that we're on point, because it doesn't mean anything if I go to like, oh, I feel so much stronger. Well, you were going one inch less depth than last week. That one inch is a lot of strength.
Speaker 2:Because, you get deeper into that and you start you. Just you know it's harder and harder the deeper you go.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So, and one thing you could do is kind of figure out where that like just below parallel is and put like a box with like a little cushion there.
Speaker 1:If you don't sit on it, you know.
Speaker 2:Not sit, but just like touch your butt to the cushion that's a good idea and then come up from there so you kind of have a guide to get to. So, legitimately, I'm most nervous about that. Yeah, because I have not been absolutely.
Speaker 1:I have not been, uh, squatting much. I mean I I did 350 three times. That's the most I've ever squatted in high school I think I broke 300 maybe like that was never a focus, it was always bench press for me. So that that's I'm concerned. That's why I'm like very focused, like today I'm going to do deadlifts when I get home, uh, after soccer practice and all that. So I'm going to do deadlifts. So hopefully I can see that. But with those numbers, those conservative numbers that I feel like I've officially done, I'm at 1075 total weight.
Speaker 1:Great, I mean, that's that's to be competitive in my weight class, I need to be at 1300.
Speaker 2:It's. I think. I mean it's great to have this goal of like be competitive in your weight class, but, dude, I promise you, watching that event, you just want to score.
Speaker 1:You just want to be on the board.
Speaker 2:I just want to, I want to, I want to get a good rep. If I got two of my three reps three exercise, you know, if all exercises I get two of the three completed with a good reps, I'd be stoked Really. That's it Like two or three Cause he's like. The first one is like you're like 95% of of like your.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're talking about each attempt, each attempt, yeah, so if I get two of the three, that's a big win.
Speaker 2:It's a big win.
Speaker 1:Because, Because, the third one. If you've hit the two, you're going to go for it.
Speaker 2:Yeah you're going for it. You're like, okay, screw it. But here's the thing, one of the things that people novice. I've asked a lot of powerlifters what their advice is. One guy was like don't forget to only do things when the judge tells you to do them. That's a classic thing that rookies do they just rush? They finish the squat and then they just rush. They've just like they finish the squat and then they just rack, and that's you know you can't wait for them to say put the bar back.
Speaker 2:Basically like you can't you know you can't bench the thing and rack it, yeah like you have to wait for them. You know all those little things that like nuances, so that.
Speaker 2:And then the other thing the guy said is like is don't blow your your, all your energy and squat going for some ridiculous score, and then you're just knocked out, or you hurt your knees squatting Cause you go wait, you know you went too heavy, or you just you know crazy, and then you just you're, you're done Right. So so those are. Like you know, for me my deadlift is by far my strongest event like by a hundred plus pounds, like I'll probably squat three to 315.
Speaker 1:You're so freaking tall though.
Speaker 2:And I'll probably deadlift for 15 to 440.
Speaker 1:Really In that range. Okay, I'm looking to try to beat you. Yeah, that's great.
Speaker 2:And I'm you know, and honestly like I would love to bench 245, 260, 275 in that range. Yeah, like you know, in those three attempts, and see again if 260 goes well, then 275. If 260 barely goes up, then maybe 265. You know, like everything's a, and, by the way, james is going to be at.
Speaker 1:Oh, is he yes.
Speaker 2:His wife live in Pflugerville, right by it. They live out there in that area. So yeah, they're just going to, they're going to come hang out.
Speaker 1:What I would love to do and that'd be cool to have that coach is you and me do some practice runs, like I mean I know you have, but it'd be cool to see where we were at. Yeah, like with official judging. Yeah, not official, but you know here's.
Speaker 2:Here's what he has me doing. Three days a week I'm doing some version of a, of a. On that day a squat, a bench and a deadlift. Okay, so, like the first day, I'll do squats like a higher rep range, like like over four or five or six reps, then I'll go bench um what's kind of called spoto press which is like you.
Speaker 1:Stop an inch from your chest. I saw you doing that on instagram.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit. It's just supposed to help control and power yeah and then.
Speaker 2:And then day two is like what I did yesterday, which is like low rep, high, higher weight, lots of volume, five or six sets or anything. And then day three, which is like the end, towards the end of the week. I'll do heavy squat, close grip bench to really start strengthening the triceps and shoulders a little bit more and then go into deadlift. So it would be easy. I would just have to talk to James and say like hey, when would be a good time to kind of like In your weight In an appropriate way.
Speaker 1:Just to see where we're at. Yeah, because I'd really like to see that, so that I know what my first attempt needs to be. Yeah, and I know that probably comes with his coaching and strategy.
Speaker 2:But you can also, yeah, I think, because you're younger and those things are probably a little bit easier to do without jeopardizing potential injury. I definitely like how he's progressing me way under my max, but every week we're just ticking up the weight a little bit.
Speaker 1:You feel stronger.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I just feel so much more power so much more explosive so much more explosive, like calm, explosive energy, and so it's, you know, but it's fatiguing because three days a week I'm doing, you know, all three lifts.
Speaker 1:Are you doing other workouts too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do one other day that's like an accessory day. He'll throw in like pull downs at the end of one of those days and there's an accessory day where we do like some shoulders and some he does that, but you're only doing what he's telling you, I'm not doing anything else.
Speaker 2:I go for a jog once a week just to go for walks and stuff like that, just to burn some calories. But other than that, yeah it's pretty, it's pretty. I just I told him when he I signed up and like one day you're going to find out deviate you tell me what to do.
Speaker 1:You are so locked in it's like it's super because I don't like.
Speaker 2:That's the only way this works that's you're undeniable bro.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I love it yeah, I mean, that's how you you don't hire somebody you don't trust yeah and if you don't, if you trust the person, you gotta, you gotta believe that they know what they're doing and they know, uh, you know what, you know what you, what you need. And the fact that he's always looking at my videos, like most of the time when we're, when, when I'm working out, and I send him a video, we do like a WhatsApp video, like he's like within seconds, like great set, really fast, good job, yeah. Or or if he has some feedback on that, like hey, let's do this for next time, or something like that.
Speaker 1:And so anyway, that's.
Speaker 2:That's just been a huge thing because it's just very instantaneous feedback.
Speaker 1:I love that Very cool. Well, tell me a little bit more. I heard a rumor that we have to get a singlet.
Speaker 2:Yo, I just ordered it. A hundred bucks, A hundred dollars, A hundred dollars yeah dude, how exposing is it of your? Genitals. Well, you're packing, so you're fine, don't worry about it. You don't know that, but thanks for thinking it no, so look so the they're black to begin with right Slimming yeah. Yeah, it's kind of like wearing. They're thick too. It's like neoprene. It hasn't arrived't arrived, supposed to arrive there tomorrow, but it looks like kind of a neoprene, like kind of wet suit material yeah, like kind of stick what size did you get?
Speaker 2:I got an extra large because it said in the thing like your weight, and also it didn't say height, but it said basically weight and like um, waist, like because can you send me the link to that, because I'll buy one it's sbd which stands for squat bench deadlift.
Speaker 1:And I looked at other like knockoff brands.
Speaker 2:This SBD is like the power lifting. It's like rogue for power lifters. Right, because S means squat, b, bench press, d, deadlift.
Speaker 1:What is it, singlet? Yeah, there we go For men. Yeah, all right, I'm looking it up right now. So I got the, I got the black and red, ooh.
Speaker 2:No, that's not it. You're not, you're just you're, you're an Amazon dude. Go go to the actual website for oh, SBD.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're not an SBD, You're just you're oh, but anyway, so so yeah you wear that, but you know like you can wear a shirt underneath that you're not like you don't have to be like a tank top, like I'm not gonna pull a luca dude, I'm gonna show it all, all my information, showing the guns. I know it's been good, it's been good, but anyway, that that you wear, that uh, I wear.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna wear powerlifting shoes, knee uh sleeves for my knees you can wear knee sleeves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, did you get spd ones?
Speaker 2:no, I got rogue ones, but um, they're just black rogue ones what about your? Shoes? Uh, they're, they're like the nike squat shoes.
Speaker 1:They have a big, you know wedge in the back so you can oh, really that helps, yeah, I just, I gotta buy a ton of stuff you don't have. That's the most expensive, like 260 bucks for the wedge sleeve oh my goodness, but if you're squatting, what did you get me into?
Speaker 2:squatting. You don't need to, you know, you don't. Your ankle mobility is such that you can squat deep and not not have your heels.
Speaker 1:I have no mobility.
Speaker 2:I I I'm concerned that we're going down of a bit of a rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:Sorry, sorry. Okay, so we have one listener. What about? What about the? What about the? You have to be an official member.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you have to at some point. I think you can sign up and say you're going to get your Powerlifting America certification or membership. You have to buy it every year. It's the same thing with bodybuilding you have to get your NPC card number. But yeah, it's like $150 to get your.
Speaker 1:NPC. Oh my goodness, everything's expensive, dude. We're like $1,000 in here, not really.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's like $150 to become a member of the Powerlifting Association or Competition Federation or whatever, and then it's another $150 to sign up for the event. And then you guys sign up as dad bods and dumbbells. That's the team name oh, that's our team name so if we get anybody else like my buddy cole, that young guy that was with us he might just do bench call.
Speaker 1:Let's sign up for the bench only he's getting strong dude he is and he's probably under and he just changes form.
Speaker 2:I got him to do the powerlifting form yeah, and now he's like oh my god, I it feels so much more stable.
Speaker 1:He's also a little handsome. I don't like that. He's going to look good in that singlet.
Speaker 2:His DEXA. He did a DEXA about nine months after we started. He's gained like literal double digits in muscle.
Speaker 1:Oh my goodness, I hate him so much. I hate him so much. He's such a G I love it Like man to be 29.
Speaker 1:Oh, my goodness, I was so soft at 29. All right, so tell me a little bit about from the perspective of you followed everything. You've done so many different things with your body. You know, you're a basketball player by trade. You become a fitness trainer. You do the bodybuilding competition. You looked fine as hell. Now you're. Now you're trying to do powerlifting. Where do you see, basically, the difference between all the different types of workouts you've ever done, and then this and then a follow-up to that. How does that affect your training of other individuals?
Speaker 1:Is it worked in there? Is it integrated? How does that affect you and what? What are some good tips there?
Speaker 2:It's a great question and I think for that maybe I might be asking like what, why do I care about powerlifting? Like as a listener? Yeah if you're not going to do a powerlifting show like, why should you care? And I think and it was brought up in james's interview a few weeks ago uh, talking about strength versus like building muscle, and I think when you get into your 40s and 50s, there's a lot about hypertrophy and like You've got to keep your muscle mass. Generally, strength and muscle mass go hand in hand.
Speaker 2:They are not the same thing, which is why bodybuilders are not stronger than powerlifters, and powerlifters don't look like bodybuilders.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Right, like there is a difference. But if someone's strong as hell, they've got a lot of muscle right. So there's a correlation between the two. But there are also really wiry, like wrestlers, who are super strong that's me yes I wrestled, yeah, right and and but, but aren't necessarily, like you know, have all this like extra muscle mass, like because they are, their bodies are really tuned into, like just really strong neuro I still have neuro strength and power yeah, so I.
Speaker 2:What I've learned is, first of all, like it's cool at 50 years old to be a student again.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I've enjoyed going to the gym and trying to learn and ask questions and figure things out and learn a new skill, set talent, all that kind of stuff, versus just the bodybuilder workout where it's like I've been doing this a while. I'm kind of that guy, so that has been cool. I think what I've really learned about bodybuilding versus this type of strength training or powerlifting is just the difference and the nuance between what's my goal. Am I trying to build muscle? Am I trying to fatigue the muscle so that the body decides to grow back more muscle mass, or is my goal to build more strength so I can lift more?
Speaker 1:weight.
Speaker 2:And so if I'm doing the latter build strength then my goal is less about like pushing to failure and more about using appropriate weight and really mastering technique in that with that weight, technique in that with that weight, so like, whereas, like you know, four months ago, before I hired james, I get on the bench press, you know, and I'd get as many reps as I could with, you know, with a heavy weight, you know, just like pushing toward like pretty dang close to failure, maybe one rep away maybe even failure on the on the last set.
Speaker 2:Um, trying to stimulate as much muscle as possible. Now james really has me not getting to failure, you know. But like in the proximity of like, uh, you know, three, four, five, six reps, we're really exploding, pushing the bar as quickly as possible really coming down slow, pausing and using a bench press as an analogy.
Speaker 2:Coming down slow, pause, really being under control, and then just driving that, that bar up quickly. Driving the bar up quickly and really being about, about just like that neurological, like firing of the muscle with great stability and great form right and that trains the body, kind of teaches the neurological system, neuromuscular system, to like produce a greater force.
Speaker 2:You know he was talking about how they're like literally like clamps. You can put on a bar to test the velocity of the bar and you use that to like let the athlete and the coach know when they stop, because at some point, when the bar is moving too slowly, when you're close to failure, you're not developing any more strength like you're. Just so they stop there, so they don't get overly fatigued, they come back and do it again. Yeah, right, so you know, and so that it's just different. And and you know, I did my dexa recently and I, as I expected, I have not gained any muscle mass since I've started powerlifting because that wasn't my goal, right, yeah, and uh, I had to put on a little bit of body fat where are you at?
Speaker 2:uh 16 percent oof that's okay, it's a pride issue um, but the point is is like it's um, it's just that's. It's a different type of training. So even though I'm stronger and more powerful and the movements that I'm doing, I'm not necessarily like using those movements to build muscle. Now I am excited, like after the powerlifting show, to like do three months of like bodybuilding again and just really like change it up and and kind of shocking all the body with some, you know, higher volume, higher volume, higher reps and more punk revenge body.
Speaker 1:for sure, I hear you. I hear you. That's cool man, so how have you integrated it into training other people, Cause you have a huge list of people that you yeah.
Speaker 2:I've got. I've got a lot of clients, a lot of men um in their forties and fifties and a few in their sixties, and you know it's it's just I. I'm enjoying the idea of, like you know, because one of the reasons why people get hurt is they. They, you know, they push too close to failure and their form starts to go to pot. Yeah, but you know, if you're always trying to push somebody to go to failure, then you're like you know.
Speaker 2:The risk reward is you get closer and closer to that point where they can't do, it is, it gets higher and, and so you know if you're thinking, okay, I and this person really needs to develop better movement patterns, you can. You can find a weight that's more appropriate to their ability level and like help them really control, like, let's say, incline dumbbell and something that's somewhat easy on the shoulder to handle, take it down slow, get a good stretch and then really like, create, create, like try to help them create that drive without you know changing their form and lifting a shoulder and that kind of stuff. And so you just using some of the concepts of strength training, of like power, to just help them develop more coordination and neurological like movement patterns that are that are easier, that are going to help them long-term be more stable and strong. I love that.
Speaker 1:That's cool, man. Well, I'm excited about that. It gets me excited. I'm super nervous, but also pretty excited because I think at this point, no excuses, it's time to buckle down and get it done. You've got six weeks, six and a half weeks and I think I'm getting to the point where my technique's getting better. I, yeah, and I think I'm getting to the point where my technique's getting better. I'm getting strong enough that.
Speaker 1:I won't humiliate myself. So I'm excited about that and, uh, it'll be a fun experience to do with you, man. Yeah, I can't wait. Sounds good, man, I love it. Well, thanks for hanging out. Thanks for listening, guys. Uh, thanks for liking, subscribing and sharing. We are looking forward for this experience, because maybe we'll even do a live podcast at the powerlifting competition, which would be super duper cool. Anything's possible. We're totally committed to it. Come on, bart.
Speaker 2:Say it, I'm not committed to anything except doing the show.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Thanks for listening to Dab Bots and Dumbbells. You guys have a great day.