
Pillow Talk Sessions
Pillow Talk Sessions is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of living, hospitality, and rental housing. Hosted by industry experts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the Build-to-Rent, co-living, multifamily, and hospitality sectors.
From smart technology and flexible living models to guest experience, design trends, and operational strategy, this podcast uncovers how the boundaries between home, hotel, and community are being redrawn. Learn how top operators, designers, and tech innovators are creating service-led, resident-focused spaces that reflect how people truly want to live today.
🎧 Tune in for:
- Deep dives into Build-to-Rent and multifamily innovation
- Hospitality-driven approaches to residential living
- Expert views on PropTech, AI, and the future of IoT
- Insights on tenant expectations, community building, and flexible design
- Conversations on legislation, sustainability, and market disruption
Whether you're a property developer, investor, operator, or simply fascinated by the evolution of modern living—Pillow Talk Sessions brings you the ideas, voices, and trends redefining rental experiences around the world.
Pillow Talk Sessions
PBSA 3.0: Beyond Housing with Bart Sasim (Spatial Experience)
In this week’s episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, our founder, Jessica Gillingham, and co-host, Kristian Lupinski, chat with Bart Sasim, CEO & Founder of Spatial Experience, about the evolution of Purpose-Built Student Accommodation (PBSA) and what’s next for the sector.
Bart shares insights on:
🏢 The transition from traditional student housing to modern, service-driven PBSA.
🔄 Subscription-based living models that offer flexibility and affordability.
🤖 How data-driven personalization is enhancing student experiences.
📊 The role of technology in shaping adaptable, community-focused student housing.