Pillow Talk Sessions
Pillow Talk Sessions is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of living, hospitality, and rental housing. Hosted by industry experts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the Build-to-Rent, co-living, multifamily, and hospitality sectors.
From smart technology and flexible living models to guest experience, design trends, and operational strategy, this podcast uncovers how the boundaries between home, hotel, and community are being redrawn. Learn how top operators, designers, and tech innovators are creating service-led, resident-focused spaces that reflect how people truly want to live today.
🎧 Tune in for:
- Deep dives into Build-to-Rent and multifamily innovation
- Hospitality-driven approaches to residential living
- Expert views on PropTech, AI, and the future of IoT
- Insights on tenant expectations, community building, and flexible design
- Conversations on legislation, sustainability, and market disruption
Whether you're a property developer, investor, operator, or simply fascinated by the evolution of modern living—Pillow Talk Sessions brings you the ideas, voices, and trends redefining rental experiences around the world.
Episodes
25 episodes
From Leases to Loyalty: Reimagining Rentals with Kevin Murphy (Renew)
In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Kevin Murphy, Co-founder & COO of Renew, to explore how multifamily operators can turn one of their biggest weaknesses...
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Season 1
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Episode 24
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39:53
Everything Is Hospitality – A Vision for Vertical Living with Philip Grace (Bob W)
In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions, we go behind the brand with Philip Grace, CDO at Bob W, to unpack the company’s vision of hospitality-first, asset-light, and tech-forward living across Europe.💡 Insid...
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Season 1
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Episode 23
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52:07
Designing the Future of Urban Living with Nuno Jorge Trigo (FEEL GROUP)
This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Nuno Jorge Trigo, Co-Founder & Co-CEO of FEEL GROUP, to discuss how the company is reshaping hospitality through its vertical building model....
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Season 1
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Episode 22
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43:05
A Vision for Flexible Living with Ed Ellerington (Packaged Living)
This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski welcome Ed Ellerington, Founder & CEO of Packaged Living, to explore what it really means to bring a customer-first, tech-smart, and...
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Season 1
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Episode 21
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45:48
Reimagining the Student Experience with Suraiya Comunello (Nido Living)
This week, we’re joined by Suraiya Comunello, CMO at Nido Living, for a deep dive into what truly matters to today’s students—and how operators can meet those expectations through service, design, and wellbeing.From ...
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Season 1
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Episode 20
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40:10
The Coliving Playbook with Mayank Pokharna (Everything Coliving)
The coliving industry is booming—but how you scale matters. In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Mayank Pokharna, CEO of Fllat.com...
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Season 1
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Episode 19
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50:37
Live Special — Experience is the New Amenity
This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, we’re excited to release our first live-recorded episode, where we brought industry leaders together to unpack the future of resident experience in front of a live audience.Hosts Je...
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Season 1
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Episode 18
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54:29
Navigating Reform in Build-to-Rent with Rachel Hanniquet-Brooking (APO Group)
This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by Rachel Hanniquet-Brooking, Managing Director of APO Group LTD, to explore the state of the UK rental market—and how Build-to-Rent operators can prepare...
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Season 1
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Episode 17
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43:10
Hospitality Rewired with Simone Puorto (Travel Singularity)
Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Simone Puorto, Founder of Travel Singularity, to unpack how technology, empathy, and adaptability are reshaping the future of hospitality.đź’ˇ Tune in to explore:&n...
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Season 1
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Episode 16
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53:25
Community & Data in Modern Living with Robert Birch (Gravity Co)
In this episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, Kristian and Jessica chat with Robert Birch, Head of Operations at Gravity Co, about creating meaningful living experiences across co-living, BTR, and hospitality.Tune in for insights on...
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Season 1
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Episode 15
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42:32
Smart Tech in Living Spaces with Steve Davis (Operto)
In this brand-new episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica and Kristian chat with Steve Davis, CEO of Operto, about the powerful intersection of hospitality, multifamily, and smart technology.đź’ˇ Listen in for key take...
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Season 1
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Episode 14
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49:23
PBSA 3.0: Beyond Housing with Bart Sasim (Spatial Experience)
In this week’s episode of Pillow Talk Sessions, our founder, Jessica Gillingham, and co-host, Kristian Lupinski, chat with Bart Sasim, CEO & Founder of Spatial Experience, about the evolution of Purpose-Built Student Acco...
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Season 1
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Episode 13
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43:52
The Rise of Flexible Living with Begum Agca Okutgen (Blueground)
Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by Begum Agca Okutgen, Head of Partner Network at Blueground, to explore the ongoing transformation of the rental market driven by remote work, technology, and evolving guests needs.
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Season 1
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Episode 12
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43:57
Why Build-to-Rent Needs a Unified Vision with Mitch Hammond (OnTheMarket)
Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by Mitch Hammond, Build-to-Rent Manager at OnTheMarket, for a candid discussion on defining and differentiating Build to Rent (BTR) in the UK and beyond.đź’ˇ Tune in t...
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Season 1
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Episode 11
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52:28
Crafting Exceptional Living Experiences with Philippa Wagner (PeoplePlacesSpaces)
Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Philippa Wagner, founder of PeoplePlacesSpaces, to unpack the shifting landscape of hospitality and how it influences sectors like Build-to-Rent.đź’ˇ Tune in to exp...
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Season 1
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Episode 10
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52:08
Designing Sustainable Living Spaces with Benjamin Hall (LOFT)
Jessica Gillingham and special co-host Iain Murray, Head of Operational Living at Bidwells, sit down with Benjamin Hall, Founder of LOFT, for an insightful conversation on how design and sustainability are shaping the future of multifamily a...
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Season 1
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Episode 9
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52:09
Optimizing Mixed-Asset Portfolios with Katherine Rose (VervLife)
This week on Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski welcome Katherine Rose, Managing Director of VervLife, for an in-depth conversation about reshaping the future of mixed-asset management.Key...
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Season 1
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Episode 8
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45:52
Revolutionizing Multifamily Living with Konrad Koczwara (ElevateOS)
Join Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski in this latest episode of Pillow Talk Sessions as they explore how multifamily living is being transformed by the hospitality industry’s best practices. Featuring Konrad Koczwara, Founder & C...
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Season 1
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Episode 7
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50:02
Shaping the Future of Build-to-Rent with Brendan Geraghty (The Association of Rental Living)
Join Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski on this week’s episode of Pillow Talk Sessions as they welcome Brendan Geraghty, CEO of the Association for Rental Living, to discuss how hospitality is reshaping the Build-to-Rent (BTR) sector.<...
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Season 1
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Episode 6
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42:30
Elevating Build-to-Rent Living Experiences with Freya Richard (Vertus)
In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski are joined by Freya Richard, Director of Operations & Leasing at Vertus, for an engaging conversation about how hospitality and Build-to-Rent (BTR) are learnin...
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Season 1
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Episode 5
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50:51
Shaping the Future of Co-Living with Yianni Tsitouras (POHA House)
In our latest episode, Jessica Gillingham and Krstian Lupinski sit down with Yianni Tsitouras, Founder & CEO of POHA House, to explore how POHA is redefining co-living with a focus on community, sustainability, and well-being. This conve...
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Season 1
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Episode 4
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40:36
Redefining Modern Hospitality with Michael Levie (citizenM)
In this episode, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Michael Levie, co-founder of citizenM, to dive into how citizenM is reshaping the hospitality industry with a bold, customer-first approach. 🎙️Michae...
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Season 1
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Episode 3
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50:23
Future of BTR & Co-Living with Suzanne Luscombe (resiCentral)
In this episode, hosts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski sit down with Suzanne Luscombe, Strategic Growth Director at resiCentral, to dive deep into the Build-to-Rent (BTR) and Co-Living sectors.🎙️ What to expect: <...
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Season 1
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Episode 2
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51:28
Bridging Hospitality and Build-to-Rent with Iain Murray (Bidwells)
We’re thrilled to announce the launch of our very first episode of Pillow Talk Sessions! 🎉In this premier, we’re diving into the exciting convergence of the hospitality and Build-to-Rent (BTR) sectors with our special guest, Ia...
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Episode 1
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