Pillow Talk Sessions
Pillow Talk Sessions is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of living, hospitality, and rental housing. Hosted by industry experts Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the Build-to-Rent, co-living, multifamily, and hospitality sectors.
From smart technology and flexible living models to guest experience, design trends, and operational strategy, this podcast uncovers how the boundaries between home, hotel, and community are being redrawn. Learn how top operators, designers, and tech innovators are creating service-led, resident-focused spaces that reflect how people truly want to live today.
🎧 Tune in for:
- Deep dives into Build-to-Rent and multifamily innovation
- Hospitality-driven approaches to residential living
- Expert views on PropTech, AI, and the future of IoT
- Insights on tenant expectations, community building, and flexible design
- Conversations on legislation, sustainability, and market disruption
Whether you're a property developer, investor, operator, or simply fascinated by the evolution of modern living—Pillow Talk Sessions brings you the ideas, voices, and trends redefining rental experiences around the world.
Pillow Talk Sessions
Everything Is Hospitality – A Vision for Vertical Living with Philip Grace (Bob W)
In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions, we go behind the brand with Philip Grace, CDO at Bob W, to unpack the company’s vision of hospitality-first, asset-light, and tech-forward living across Europe.
💡 Inside the episode:
🏘️ Bob W’s vertical villages that combine apartments, workspaces, restaurants, and rooftop pools
🤝 How strategic partnerships beat in-house ownership for long-term profitability
📲 What it means to run guest services across 13 countries
🤖 How AI is helping scale operations—without replacing the human touch
🚪 Why 75% of guests book again directly after one stay
Philip brings decades of experience with a future-facing lens—this one’s a must-listen.