Pillow Talk Sessions
Pillow Talk Sessions Podcast is the go-to podcast for exploring the future of hospitality and serviced living. Co-hosted by Jessica Gillingham and Kristian Lupinski and brought to you by the team at Abode Worldwide, each episode features insightful conversations with pioneers shaping the built-to-rent, co-living, PBSA, later living, multifamily and hospitality sectors.
Each episode explores the transition from simply providing spaces to creating value, community, and experiences. We discuss everything from operational shifts away from asset-focused approaches toward customer-centric models to changing customer behaviors, convergence of asset classes, global trends, and typology issues. From cutting-edge prop tech innovation to flexible stays and changing demographics, we uncover how hospitality and serviced rental living are reshaping the way we live, work, and play.
On the podcast, we cover three core themes:
- The ‘hotelization’ of real estate: How are the demands for concierge-level service, seamless tech, and elevated design are changing residential rental.
- Proptech as an enabler: How tools are unlocking smarter operations and richer resident experiences.
- The convergence of asset classes: We chart the strategic convergence of hotels, BTR, multifamily, and co-living as boundaries blur between short stays and rental homes.
Whether you're in real estate, hospitality, multifamily, short-term rentals, proptech, PBSA, build-to-rent, retirement living, co-living, or just curious about where these industries are headed, Pillow Talk Sessions offers engaging, thought-provoking conversations that will inspire and inform.
Your Hosts
Jessica Gillingham - Jessica is the CEO of Abode Worldwide, a strategic public relations and communications firm focused on raising the profile of transformative technology solutions across global hospitality, lodging, and serviced living. Jessica is a regular industry speaker, author, adviser, and the founder of Pillow Talk. Jessica is also the author of the book “Tech-Enabled Hospitality - Strategies to Elevate Guest Experience and Operational Efficiency.”
Kristian Lupinski - Kristian is the content and events producer for Abode Worldwide. With extensive media production experience and a hospitality industry background, Kristian has a proven track record of creating engaging content and collaborating with influential figures shaping the sector.
The podcast is brought to you by the team at Abode Worldwide.
Pillow Talk Sessions
The Future of Casual Living with Asli Kutlucan (TFE Hotels)
In this week’s Pillow Talk Sessions, Jessica Gillingham and co-host Kristian Lupinski sit down with Asli Kutlucan, CEO Europe at TFE Hotels, to explore how the company is bridging the gap between hotels and homes with its fast-growing Adina and MM:MT (Moment) brands.
In this episode, Asli shares:
🏨 Why casual living is the next evolution of modern hospitality
🏗️ How adaptive reuse is unlocking new value from underused city buildings
🤖 How the new GXP platform is transforming guest experience and staff operations
🌍 Why flexible, service-led living is resonating with a generation on the move
💬 How to balance tech-driven efficiency with authentic hospitality
From Berlin to Cambridge, Hamburg to Glasgow, TFE is leading a new era of living that’s flexible, connected, and human-centered.