Peach Podcast
Two guys and an occasional guest breaking open topics on: Purpose, Energy, Attitude, Commitment and Health through shared experiences.
Peach Podcast
EP028: River Float to Finish Line, What Happens when Commitment & Consistency Collide!
What if your spontaneous decisions could lead to life-changing achievements? Discover how an impromptu commitment after a wine-fueled river float turned into a journey of personal growth and triumph. Join us as we listen to an inspiring story of overcoming self-doubt and embracing a disciplined training plan, turning a casual promise into a remarkable milestone.
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Speaker 2:Let's go. Welcome back to Peach Podcast with Doug and Daryl man. I am so excited about this episode. Everybody we've grubbed on some turkey, we tore up some mashed potatoes, we did all the Thanksgiving stuff and in our family, daryl, as you know, we we get to do that twice and then we get to leftover Turkey sandwiches and stuff, but uh. But let's recap. I think we talked a little bit about the Turkey trot, but this episode is going to be um with Josephine.
Speaker 2:We've been telling the audience for gosh several weeks with Josephine. We've been telling the audience for gosh several weeks, maybe even a couple of months, that she had committed to doing a 10K run and it was going to be during the Folsom Turkey Trot. And so now we're bringing Josephine on. We've been telling people maybe we can get her on, maybe we can get her on and she can share her experience For people who are thinking about doing a 10K run or just doing a run.
Speaker 2:And as Daryl and I were kind of brainstorming, what's this episode going to sound like? What's it going to look like? We thought about our good friend Tony, and Tony has signed up for a 10K run too, and so we'll get to him. He's on a show tonight or today as well, and we'll get to him in a little minute and maybe he can glean some wisdom from whatever Josephine shares and whatever Daryl and I kind of bring up and talk about through our own 10K experience this time around, daryl. So, daryl, what do you want to kick off with brother? Go ahead, give me something.
Speaker 3:Well, super, super exciting, great, great episode last week. It was wonderful to hear all the great Thanksgiving that people had and the thanks they had. It was really appreciate the family really stepping up on the Peach podcast. We've got a lot of good things. Doug, can't thank you enough for your editing skills as always. It's really cool, really cool, wonderful, wonderful time up at Chief's house and then we rolled into the week of Thanksgiving and, of course, on Thursday we had the Turkey Trot. Went back and looked up my times on Strava and Doug it's actually the fifth time we've done the Turkey Trot. Josephine yeah, it's a fifth time.
Speaker 3:Josephine has organized this several years in the past, did the 5K a few times and generally Josephine is kind of the hostess with the mostest and she always brings lots of people. We got t-shirts, we got a lot of different people. It's a great event. There's two big ones in Sacramento. There's a one downtown with like 40,000 people, but the Folsom one is cool. Uh, it's uh. We had about 4,000 people. Uh, woke up early in the morning 39 degrees, doug when we got in the car, so, um, uh, we had a really nice group of people out there, um and so it was really cool and a very special event, with Josephine and others all being there, josephine running her 10 K and I'm just, uh, just thrilled that we, uh, we just had an awesome day. Doug, that weather could not have been better it was cold, but it was sunny.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but when you're running, man, you appreciate the cold it's. You start out a little chilly, but then about halfway through I remember the first time I ran I had a couple of layers on and I was regretting that like crazy. And and you, I heard you say you did it five years, but I've only done it three years. You guys lived up before I moved up here you guys were already doing. But, daryl, I want to just stop for a second. And, man, I got to give you a huge pat on the back, brother man, when I saw your time. I'm like holy crap.
Speaker 2:And the reason I was so surprised, daryl, is because I do training programs. I've got running scheduled into my things and I don't know that you do that. Daryl, I think and again, correct me if I'm wrong I know you run, especially when you go boxing and all that stuff, but those are like one mile, maybe two mile runs. I don't know if you guys are doing more than that, maybe three. So I don't know that you had running like scheduled in for an actual 10K to train up for that. I know you did some running to get prepared. I know you and I ran a couple of days before you did some hills up here. You looked good, you looked strong. Your time came in, incredibly impressive for the amount of running I saw you do leading up to this event. How did you feel about that, brother? What did that feel like?
Speaker 3:It felt great, I think. More than anything, I think what we've really been doing around consistency is, I think, the key right. We've been extremely consistent this year across everything else and I think a lot of the training we've done for endurance and others and, to be honest, our nutrition at our house has been on point and that's really due to Josephine. I know she'll talk about it, but just, I think consistency in being healthy, in working out, in nutrition, really paid off. And, as I mentioned because I want to get to our guest, Doug this is the first time where I've done a 10K where it wasn't like survival right, when you know, when I got to that first water station, all I could think was can I get to the end? And this was the first time I felt pretty good, A lot of encouragement, a little extra encouragement to know if I slowed down too much, my wife was going to pass me.
Speaker 3:That's next year. Next year, I'm telling you, and really we'll get into it. Let's jump into the guest. But Josephine, she pushed me. I mean some of her time, not just getting out there running, but her times and just watching her and the consistency. I was like man, I got to step up my game, so I'm super excited. Thank you, Tony, Thank you, Josephine, for joining us today, and let's jump into it Cool cool.
Speaker 2:So let's start off with Josephine. Josephine, welcome to the podcast, sis.
Speaker 4:Hi, thank you for having me. I've really enjoyed listening to your show. I know you know I know both of you very well and you know close, but it's always fun listening to you and your energy and everything you guys have to bring to the show. So thank you so much for having me on and for being an inspiration to all of us.
Speaker 2:Oh, thanks, sis, we appreciate you and I can't tell you how much you are really. You know you may not be a host on this show or whatever, but you know the things you do for Team Peach, the things you do for Daryl, the things you do for me, and you know you really inspire us to just to be better because you put so much effort. I mean you show up to all the events, you make little posters, you're always supporting, I mean you drive hours when we do cycling events or even running events and and you're tagging, you know, bringing along ava joe and got a feeder and I mean it's, it's not an easy task, so we appreciate. I just want to say publicly we appreciate you, we adore you. And, man, when you said you were running for me personally, when I heard that you made that commitment and although that commitment didn't come out of a normal like, like you know, you can tell us how that all came, and I think we shared it on a previous podcast, but I think it's important to reshare again on this one.
Speaker 2:You know, didn't? You were, I think, floating down a river or something like that, but you know you, you stuck to it. And when you did that, and we saw you just stepping into that process. Man, man, talk about inspiring, but so let me ask you the first question what, what inspired you? Or how? Why did you sign up for a 10 K and not a 5k? But you signed up for a damn 10 K. What, what, what? How did that all come about?
Speaker 4:Well, that I mean, I've always been. I actually have a shirt that says what does my shirt say? It says run, spelled backwards is is nerve. That's a nerve for me because I never, ever wanted or even desire to be a runner, and so that was just kind of like. I was like oh, I got to get this shirt Cause I'm definitely not a runner, I don't like running, I have no desire to run, which is what I hear a lot of people saying. My best friend, jamie she today I'm I was trying to get her to sign up and she's like no, I have no desire to do that, and I get it, I totally get you. Just, you know, you have, you have this, at least me. I had this kind of imposter syndrome where it's like I can't do a 10k. You know I can't. That's not me, I can't do that, I'm not a runner, all of this. So it wasn't really something that I had ever thought of doing.
Speaker 4:But we're floating down the river. One day right before school started is the weekend before school started. Kids are going back to school and we were with some good friends and my, my good friend, kelly. She is a badass. Actually you should have her on your show, we will. She is an amazing athlete and just talk about being consistent. That girl is consistent and just kind of an idol for me in the sense of hey, you know, you, really, if you want to be in shape, talk to her, see what she does and kind of follow in her footsteps and so, um, anyway, she's, she's just super consistent. And so we're floating down the river, uh, a few drinks in and uh, we started talking about the turkey trot and she always does the 10 K and she's pretty bad-ass. I know Daryl and her he he always tries to beat her, but I'm I'm pretty sure she, he's eaten her dust most of the time, Um, anyway.
Speaker 4:So I was just saying hey, you know, um, I'll run it with you this year. And so it was only after a couple of glasses of wine. And then the next day I woke up and I'm like, oh man, did I commit to a 10K? I think.
Speaker 5:I did.
Speaker 4:And when I commit to something, I do it, and so I signed up for it, and then you just didn't commit to it.
Speaker 3:You told everybody on the river on the way down you were doing it. I mean I think you were getting like sponsors on the way.
Speaker 2:That's how you commit, man.
Speaker 1:You just like you start spreading the news.
Speaker 4:So you got no way out, man I was gonna take down some people with me. I said I'm pulling down, y'all are coming with me yeah, she's telling people guess what?
Speaker 2:we signed up for a 10k. No, I'm just kidding, that's awesome. So you, you committed you and you said, okay, I'm all in for it.
Speaker 4:Yes, I went on to the computer and I signed up for the 10k. And then I went on to pinterest and I looked up this couch to 10k training plan and I'm sitting there looking at it and I'm like, oh, that's not too bad, you know, because the first part, first part, do I get into this yet? Can I just go? Can I dive?
Speaker 4:right in the first part of the training, so it's a 12-week, it's called Couch to 10K for Non-Runners, and then the very first.
Speaker 4:So what I did is I actually put it on as my screensaver on my phone, and so every morning, every time I look at my phone, I'd see the schedule like, oh shoot, today's a run day, when am I going to get my run in? And this is, mind you, this is right when school got back into session for Ava and I'm going back to school, going back to work, because I have the summer off. So now I'm pretty busy and so I'm looking every morning. I look at the schedule and I see, all right, so what's coming up? And it tells you you know, it's like every other day kind of a thing. So you run three days to four days in the first week and then it builds on that, and so I'm like, ah, looking at that, that doesn't look too bad. So that's pretty much how I started and I had no idea what I was getting into. But I was literally sitting on the couch as I'm signing up for all of this stuff. That's how that got started.
Speaker 2:Wow. So on your training days. Well, you know what. I'm going to pause there for a second because I want to bring Tony in, because Tony is you're in the beginning what you shared about you know I made this commitment and then I signed up and and so I want to hear what's going on in his head. And Tony, can you relate to anything Josephine saying, like, especially the drinking the wine coming down the river part? No, I'm just kidding. No, mine was beer. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, so, but Tony, you signed. You know, welcome to the show, tony. So so good to have you, brother, um good to be signed up for a 10k long time listener, yes, yes.
Speaker 2:Follower long time listener, yes. So, tony, tell us a little bit about yourself, man. Who are you like? How did you get into this? Like, how are you connected to the family and all that other stuff?
Speaker 5:I don't know if you know, but you adopted me, Joe.
Speaker 2:Joe adopted me. I did. Josephine adopted Tony.
Speaker 4:We go way back.
Speaker 5:Yeah, way back, way back. Actually, I've known Josephine since she lived up here up in Somerset. Yeah, since we were in grade school I knew Tony.
Speaker 4:Pioneer. He's my best friend's husband and I've known him before I even met Jamie Really. He went to pioneer school. His aunt was my teacher, sixth grade teacher. I still, I still, know her.
Speaker 5:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So you knew Tony before Jamie.
Speaker 5:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So technically, in the big picture Jamie's like the third wheel. Then yeah, okay, okay, I just want to get some facts straight on this.
Speaker 4:This is an important episode. Okay, I just want to get some facts straight on this. This is an important episode people.
Speaker 2:Okay, jamie man, we got to talk, jamie, yeah, yeah, all right. So you and Josephine go back to grade school, and so all right. And where do you live now?
Speaker 5:Live in Dixon, california, all right, but Josephine lived with us for a little while. She's with Alyssa. We got to grow through that era.
Speaker 4:She was a father figure before I met Daryl. She still is a father figure to Alyssa, but she was big in being a part of her growing up and was just amazing. So they're really close, my kids and tony yeah, so part of the family so and you got you and jamie got kids yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:So I have three kids, uh, gage, isabella and addison. Beautiful smart, you know very.
Speaker 3:Yes, yeah, I'm very proud of them um, yeah, and a new addition, uh, new edition, sitting right next to you the new edition.
Speaker 2:Uh, bentley, yeah, yeah it looks like a benton yeah, everybody say he looks like a chicken nugget he does what kind? Of dog is bentley as a uh, goldenodle, golden doodle, that's what it is. That's why, when we're describing all these little scenarios, that's why it's a golden doodle Chicken nugget, yeah chicken nugget With the curly fries on top. No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:So, tony, let's fast forward a little bit. Well, in between fast forwarding and back then, like you, I think you're pretty athletic. I mean you used to break, dance and do kinds of stuff like. But I don't know a lot about your athletic history. Like, did you play sports in high school, did you? And now, as an adult male with kids, do you exercise? I know you walk, I see you on Strava all the time. So what's your routine like now and what was it like?
Speaker 5:So I think throughout the years I've always worked out. I played Pop Warner football, but that was, like you know, to like eight years old and then after that it was just skateboarding. You know, that's what I did was skateboarding from one end of the town to the next, so very active that way, you know, like in Placervacerville that's where I grew up, right. So, yeah, but I've always been a weightlifting and, uh, when we moved to dixon, I actually signed up and joined a, uh, a run, a run group in dixon california.
Speaker 5:Yeah, okay, which was really fun actually, and I did a couple 5ks, but not a 10k, and I and it's kind of been in the back of my head you know like I want to. I want to do a, uh, I want to do a marathon, like a half marathon. I want to do a 10k, but you know, baby steps, right, right, right, smart man smart man, so you signed up for a 10k uh, you're joining
Speaker 2:us on the sham rocking 10k. What? What motivated you? What inspired you or who tricked you into?
Speaker 5:doing this, josephine. I mean, people do stuff. I was right there with her in the damn inner tube. I was right there on the sidelines. No, no, but she did inspire me. I'm proud of that. She did that and, uh, just, uh amazing. So I actually I wanted to be there right with her, running next to her, but you know, I had to do my thing in my, my house, my, my uh thanksgiving thing. So, yeah, I just uh inspired by her and and you guys, you guys inspire. Like every single time I listen to the podcast, I'm just like motivated man, you know, because you know being in my head, you know, I'm just like, you know, I have those, those, those ups and downs, you know like, you're like, oh yeah, you know, I, I can do this, I can do that and I'm, I'm all in all in, and then some days you're just like man, I'm just not feeling it. You know right, but I listen to that podcast. I'm like like I'm back in it. I am again.
Speaker 2:Thank you for your kind words. We appreciate that man. Keep listening and keep sharing the show. Man. You know we want it. That's the vibe we want to keep doing. But so I'm going to ask Josephine a question in a few minutes, but before I do, because I think the question I'm going to ask Josephine might give you some insight. And you said you've been running, so you know what it feels like to have a training schedule or run scheduled, and you're like I don't, I don't feel like doing this, but not really actually we just kind of went with it.
Speaker 5:You know, like me and Jamie she, she actually found something where she would like run one minute, walk two minutes, run one minute, like she would start out, yeah, and I just kind of emulated that, just kind of went with that. I didn't really have any set schedule because it was all not. I wasn't really trying to set any goal like uh goals or like times or anything with that when I was running. It's all fun, you know, just yeah, yeah fun and and do this. But cool.
Speaker 2:So now that you signed up for 10k now, yeah, I'm like I'm gonna get that hour.
Speaker 5:I'm gonna get no 109. I want to get daryl I want to break the record oh man, we gotta talk, tony.
Speaker 2:I got some elevated training schedules. Maybe I'll pass it down to you.
Speaker 3:Dog, yeah, but, doug, you know, if I look at this summer, um, josephine was already, you're walking a lot, right you're. You're on some serious walks. Oh yeah, um, tony and jamey, tony and jamie, or I think tony would uh, send pictures to josephine, josephine would send pictures back. Tony's on strava, yeah, tony's real consistent. So I think it's a lot of good stuff. But, joe, I know, you know you randomly signed up, you know, floating down the river, but I felt like, coming right, I didn't know what it was, but you were being pretty active and I think that was just. Sometimes there's good ideas and good timing, and that river was good timing and I think, um, through the process, josephine would take pictures and send them to Tony and Tony would send them back and um, so it's, it's nice to see the progression.
Speaker 5:Yeah, trying to motivate each other. You know that's what it's all about. You know, like you said, like you guys say in your podcast all the time, like-minded people and motivating people, you know, just like Right, you know, being that being that, uh, that messenger, right and uh, inspiring people right, right on, brother, right on.
Speaker 2:So you signed up, tony. What, uh, what thoughts are going through your head on this thing? Like keep it real, man 100. Like when you signed up, like were you thinking oh shit, I just signed up for this damn thing, or or what?
Speaker 5:or are you like I'm ready, I was actually I was in the process and I couldn't. I was like I kept trying to like, figure it out and I was like you know what, something's telling me I shouldn't sign up, like every time I'm like I'm trying to get into, I'm like I forgot my password, okay, let me, let me go over here. Oh, yep, is it kicked me off? And I was like, oh man, something's telling me don't, don't do it. But I was like, no, I'm doing this, I, I ain't playing around, I I gotta, I gotta do this, you know, know. So, but yeah, no, no, no plans, just just, I got a plan from Josephine, so that that's going to help me out, I believe, and so I want to. I want to get in there and see what my time is, you know.
Speaker 4:Put it on his screensaver.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I got my, got my screens. Oh she got you trained up Good.
Speaker 2:That's how you pass it down, sis.
Speaker 2:Good job hey, joseph so let's share some wisdom with tony. Uh, because you had a plan and you know it's. It's one thing to go out and say I'm gonna run a 10k and just kind of run here and there and and hope for the best, but it's a whole nother level when you say I got a plan and I'm sticking to this damn plan, because then that's when life says watch me, fuck with you and I'm gonna throw every kind of scenario to block this and block that, and just kind of like Tony went through with the internet, going out and forgetting his password, you know, and. But man, sis, I got to tell you, man, that seems to me like you stuck to the damn plan, pretty much to a T, in my opinion. Um, what did that tell me about some obstacles you faced along the way? What did it feel like, what was your hardest challenge and how did you overcome that stuff?
Speaker 4:My own mind was my hardest challenge out of everything. It's just, I always think about this, like when I'm out there running or when I'm doing something hard. Um, I took a yoga class years ago maybe like 10, 15 years ago and, um, it was one of those yoga classes where you hold the pose for a long ass time and you're just sitting there, sitting there, and you're like shaking and you're just, you just want to give up, right. And and it was one of those beak room yoga, so it's hotter than heck and you're like sweating and shaking and she's like, just hold it, we're almost done, we're almost done. And she said I'll just tell you that your mind will give up long before your body will Damn, you know. So true, and I just sat and I held the pose because I'm like it is in your mind and so every single time I'm out running because I tell you there's some. There's never been a day where I'm like, oh, let me just go out and run right it just doesn't happen, like people say.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, it just. I really love running. You know, once I'm like 2030 minutes into it, I am like okay, I'm cool now. But I hate every single time getting and I come out like when I go run, I don't play, I come right out my door like a freaking racehorse and.
Speaker 4:I just start running because I am not gonna like I don't need to get this shit done. I'm gonna do five miles, six miles, and I'm gonna the miles gonna start on my freaking doorstep. So I start my thing and I go right away. But um, that's been my biggest challenge is just not. I mean, there's all kinds of excuses, like the time, you know the energy, I'm not feeling good, I have a headache, like the weather.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean there could be any number of things, but it's always just been like pretty much an excuse because I didn't want to do it and that's just what it was was. And every single time I got up and I freaking did it, I did it anyway, so consistent like I, and I just I just remember like you telling me you have to trust the program, you have to trust. And let me tell you that the first day that I started this program, it was a one minute run, and when I say it's a jog and a one and a half minute walk for 20 minutes, so that's the first thing, and I literally came out my door. I'm like, okay, well, let's see how this is going to feel. And I ran to like the trail and I wasn't even at a minute yet and I'm like, oh my God.
Speaker 4:I'm going to freaking die right now. This is going to be awful. This is going to be awful. What am I going to do? But I just did it Like I. I had to force myself to do it every single time, every single challenge. The first 20 minute run, I was terrified of that. Um, that was in week five.
Speaker 2:You were no longer run, walk and it was just a steady run at that point.
Speaker 4:That was my. So the run before that was eight minute run, eight minute run, five minute walk, eight minute run and that's the longest I had done and I did that consistent. I had run eight minutes by that time and that was in week five and then last.
Speaker 4:Friday I had to run 20 minutes by that time, and that was in week five. And then, friday, I had to run 20 minutes straight and I remember that day thinking, okay, I've done it up until this point every single, every single challenge. I thought I couldn't do that. And I did it. And I thought I couldn't do that and then I would do it. Um, and I remember Daryl was going camping and he went to our neighbor's house to pick up Paul and they're right down the street from us, and so I'm running and I literally have never stopped running. Okay, and the first time I was like my mind gave up. I stopped. And then here, fricking, comes Daryl down the road. Are you kidding me, right?
Speaker 1:now you got busted for stopping.
Speaker 4:I got busted on my 20 minute and I was like oh my God, are you kidding me? Right now I'm like I was running, I promise.
Speaker 2:That's the worst person to get busted by Daryl man. He's so by the book man, you don't. You don't deviate from the plan. He's so by the book man, you don't deviate from the plan.
Speaker 4:I have been dreading that run so much that I waited until like 11 or no, it's probably like 12 or 1 in the afternoon and it's mid, like it's like September.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and so it was super hot and I'm just, and it was not a good day. And so then after that, I'm like I'm never going to do that again, never going to stop, I just have to keep going. I just played this little thing in my head and my mind and so the next time I had to run a 25 minute, I did it, I didn't stop Right. That was my only goal going into. This was just to not stop. Even if I was going like at a snail's pace, which I did a lot, I just kept running and I just did not stop. And that day, um, I remember there's there was like two days in in the training schedule that I stopped and both were on a Friday and both were like and I just I was telling Daryl the other day I'm like I hate running Fridays. I think I'm going to change my day.
Speaker 4:I don't like that day for me, I don't want to run on that day and so, um, anyway, that was, that was. It was just. It was just something where in my mind I had to just tell myself you can't stop. I'd'd like even to the point where I just say, okay, you have to get to that tree okay, now get to get to that bush, okay, now get to that sign.
Speaker 4:and I'd give myself little tiny markers and I just get to that. And then I get to that and I'd lean, like daryl told me one time somebody told them just to lean forward, and I'm like, leaning forward, I'm like doing all the things that I could possibly, um, just to make it through.
Speaker 3:But hey Joe, the one thing that, more than anything, regardless of your physical, you know, and running and getting better and going from 20, your self-talk through this three month journey was night and day right. You and I don't know if you realize it. You know you would. I got to run for a minute and you were, you were super committed. She'd come home and cross them off on the refrigerator.
Speaker 5:Right.
Speaker 3:But her self-talk was always worried about the next run, right, and somewhere in the middle she stopped talking about the next run Wow. And then started talking about when am I going to do it? Is it cold? I almost got ran over by someone. I need to wear a headlamp, right. And she went from talking about it and like kind of in her mind being more like negative self-talk, to about the environment. To the end it was just like planning when she's going to run and I saw your self-talk and your mental just go from negative to neutral to positive and it was an amazing transformation. I don't know if you realize that, but you know you never. The first, maybe month, you didn't complain, but it was there. But that transformation was huge, right, and that's the biggest thing I noticed.
Speaker 2:What a huge, daryl. Thank you for sharing that insight, as it cause you were. I mean, you're the closest observer, living with her day in and day out, and and we look for this stuff in our own selves and with people we ride with or run with, you know, just for self-improvement, and the fact that you could see that happening, this stuff that we talk about and share. You know that you got to see it happening with someone you love, near and dear, in your home, right there. I think I remembered when you shared it to me and I'm like I think I said, oh my gosh, she just became a runner. Like she went, her identity shifted from. You know, I got to get this run into. Like my next run is bam. So that's so, josephineine, thank you so much for breaking down that process. That was beautiful.
Speaker 2:And, daryl, the way you just talked about how that shift happens and those that all that stuff happens. Tony, I'm gonna come back to you because I want to share some wisdom with you, and josephine said it's something that I had shared with her as well, but I'm gonna. I want to share with you. Man, you got to trust the process and just lean into the program, because I'm telling you, especially with dudes, man, like when you do the one minute walk or the one minute jog and two minute walk, you're going to be like I could still. I'm telling you, you're going to say I can still jog, like this is no, what's one minute jog, like I can jog three minutes and don't whatever. Do not do it, man, man, do exactly what it says and you'll be.
Speaker 5:Yeah, no, I did a little, my little walk today on strava and I did, uh, me and benley went and I ran with him and I was like sitting there and I was like I just gotta keep going. Like just he was saying I'm gonna go to that next lamp, I'm gonna go to that next, I'm gonna go to that bush right there, I'm gonna, I'm gonna going. I just kept going, kept going, and then finally I was just like okay, okay, that's enough. I haven't started that process yet, but I just wanted to see what that minute was like, like, oh, shoot, that's going to be. Yeah, I'm going to enjoy it and I'm the runner that I am, that I know I am there.
Speaker 2:You go, baby there you go, there you go, awesome Everybody. Tell me I am there. You go, baby. There you go, there you go, awesome Everybody tell me, I am.
Speaker 2:Hey, sometimes that I mean that's we might laugh about it, but sometimes, you know, there's a lot of things in my life that I haven't become or owned or accepted about myself until I kept hearing it about people you know I mean very intimate things, about my heart and just who I am and and being lovable and all that stuff that you know I'm talking going years back. But you know, sometimes you got to hear it. You got to hear it and then experience it and be willing to go through that hard shit to say, oh shit, I am a runner, I am. I'm still trying to get Daryl to say those words. He will he will.
Speaker 3:He can run. I mean, after his time on this Folsom Turkey tribe man, I don't know why he don't just say you know what, doug, remember that one. We count to 10 cycling. I'm like I might have to count this like a million times before I get back to 80 miles. Right, but it does work. I mean, it literally does work. It's a trip.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So, josephine, back to you. Great again. Thank you for sharing the detailed explanation on the process and the challenges and the obstacles that you overcame. Because you finished the turkey trout We'll talk about the day of, because I want to kind of capture some shit from there too. But what can you take away most Like? Where did you grow personally, mentally and emotionally and physically from this process? Because you obviously overcame a bunch of shit just to get to the starting line. So what's your biggest takeaway in growth?
Speaker 4:So my, you know I don't normally do New Year's resolutions, but two years ago my New Year's resolution, or my word, I did a word. You know, I didn't have a word and I'm going to try and live by that was consistency. And last year I didn't walk or run or do anything. There was nothing I didn't, I didn't do. So I was like, oh man, this year I didn't have a word, but this year I was consistent, I was definitely consistent and just I think I've always you know, being a Talmadge, I'm always very extreme person.
Speaker 4:It's either I'm like all in or I'm not in at all. There's no in between. It's just everything's extreme. And so I just wanted to try and be consistent and just stick with something and not make it too hard to where you know I'm giving up or something that you know where it's where I don't, where I can't stick with it. And so I think that up, or something that you know where it's where I don't, where I can't stick with it. And so I think that I just learned that about myself is that I can be consistent and I can do something for a long time and something that's really hard. And that's why I chose to run because I don't like it and it's super hard for me.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 4:And just to challenge myself, that's pretty much what I learned.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So you can do hard shit and it helps if you do shit you don't like.
Speaker 4:Yes.
Speaker 2:Right. Do you feel stronger today? Do you feel stronger about yourself?
Speaker 4:I feel so much stronger. I feel, so much stronger and just like my self-confidence and telling you this running thing is just a mind game, like I can't do it, like I can't keep up, I can't how am I? Going to talk with some, like running with somebody.
Speaker 5:I think that's with any sport you do or any weightlifting or running, but running probably is one of the harder ones, like even biking, I'm sure you guys when you guys are biking too, it's like a mind game too, right, I think running is by far the hardest out of all of them, and I'm going to say why.
Speaker 2:Because biking you can pause, it's got a freewheel and you can kind of coast.
Speaker 5:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 2:Weightlifting you get rests in between sets, right. But running, for some reason, I think most people who run they tell themselves you can't stop and you can't walk like that. You can't do that. But you actually can. If you're a brand new runner, it's okay to walk. It's actually encouraged.
Speaker 2:When I was training for my marathon, the professional trainer dude that I had said we're going to walk by all the water stops. Yeah, I want you to walk by. And when we hit any kind of decent inclines, we're going to walk those hills. And I'm thinking, okay, I need to get out of my head about you know, I just need to finish the marathon before the marathon closes. That's my, that's my goal and you know I'm a little more competitive so I want it to beat some times. So it's, yeah, it's, running is hard. And so, yes, as I'm so glad I can hear your confidence, I can hear you know how much stronger you are. So I knew you were a runner and I knew something shifted, because I think I texted you a day or two before the turkey trot and I forget what I said. I said, but you got to always have something. What's next before your event ends? And I think you texted and I texted you the link to the shamrock or something like that, and you texted me back I think moments later or within 24 hours, maybe it was like just minutes, I forget and you said I just signed up, so you had signed up for your next 10K and you didn't even actually officially complete your first 10K, so that I'm telling people these are little nuggets I'm just sharing behind the scenes, because this is the shit that creates momentum, and momentum is an amazing force that I think not enough people take advantage of. But you got to create momentum and when that big 600 ton boulders in front of you, when you first start pushing it, it sucks, it does not move. But if you can get that 600 ton boulder to start moving, man, don't stop. Don't stop, just keep it rolling.
Speaker 2:So, sis, let's move forward to your um, to the day of the turkey trot. All right, you showed up. It was like Daryl said, it was a crisp, cool day, for sure, but that's, that's preferable. As you get running, you're going to see like I like them kind of days for running anyways. But uh, what, what did you? What was going on through your head? And how did you tell me to share it? How did the run go? Like what? What did you, what did you experience along the run?
Speaker 4:Well, first of all, the the 10 K that we did is had some hills on it and so I'm super scared about that, but, um, about what would you say?
Speaker 4:like about a month or maybe six weeks before, um, you and I went in and ran the route, just so I could see what you know like, what is it like? I just, I was just so nervous. I think like again in my head right and Earl says how many times are you going to run this race? Cause I can't like in my head, you know running and running, I'm like what is it going to be like? And I just needed to know what the challenge was so that I could prepare for it. And so, yeah, so you and I went out and I think we got under an hour and a half or like an hour and 29 minutes. Um and um, we walked, like you said, walked all the hills and we ran all the flat parts, um and so, and we did pretty good. I felt really good. Um, I was super tired after that. I was like wiped after that. But, um and it I think it rained that day, remember it was like sprinkling. Yeah, it felt really good, like you said. So, um, I think that that helped to the day and I had I had ran again with one of my, my friends, katie writer.
Speaker 4:She is a runner and she runs faster than me, so she pushes me. So the second time we ran we beat the time by like four or five minutes, um and so, um, anyway, that was helpful, just just keep going on. So I, in my mind, I felt better. I'm like, okay, I know I can do it and I know I can do it under the two hours, so I'm going to be good, um, and then I just have to get through it. I just have to not have to go to the bathroom in the middle of the race, which again I was terrified I'd have to go poop in the middle of the damn trail.
Speaker 4:I was like go to the bathroom um yeah exactly so.
Speaker 4:Um, leading up to that, I had I was working with doug on on some issues that I was having with them. I was thinking maybe hormones, and then I was like I don't know if it's hormones or because I was dealing with sweating, like feeling like like sweating more than I should be for running, for what I was doing, because I just felt there was something going on and a couple of times I had just like my nutrition was really important. I would do a shake in the morning and then I go run, but then the shake and my tummy was just was just like rumbling around and I was like, oh, this is not good, and so I decided I'm just not going to eat anything before the race or before my training. And then that wasn't good because then I started like having I was low blood sugar and I started just sweating a lot and I'm like, oh gosh, there's, there's.
Speaker 4:I couldn't figure out what was happening. I didn't want to eat something big. I didn't want to eat, drink a shake, because that wasn't working for me to eat something big. I didn't want to eat, drink a shake, because that wasn't working for me. So I told Doug, I said you know what I think? It's? Just, I don't have anything. I'm just like hypoglycemic right now. I think I need to have a couple oranges.
Speaker 4:So I took a couple cuties, um, on our way to the race and I had those. And I was cold getting out there on the day of the race because it was freezing as heck. But our good friend of mine, katie, was out there. She had a little backpack on. I put all my stuff on my, like my, I don't know. I had a hat and like a layer little jacket on and I gave her my stuff so that I didn't have to run with it on, and so then I was ready to go. I felt good. I felt I was ready to go. I felt good, I felt I was ready. You know all the excitement of the race and I had so many people there to support me, which is so awesome. Thank you to everybody that came out and I had text messages. My niece Sabrina and Joshua sent me a little video clip in the morning. They said good luck, auntie joe, and um, you know everybody was sending me text messages and um, yes, I got yours, sony did.
Speaker 2:He sent me a text message. I was running with josephine on on the route on the day of the event and she's listening to these damn text messages as we're running. I'm like focus, focus, damn it, put that shit away alissa and ava were like go, mommy.
Speaker 4:They sent me a little like a voice recording Go, mommy, you're almost there, which we weren't we were over the halfway point. So, but it was good, it was so good to have you there, brother, thank you for being a huge support. You know, I know you could have run for time and you and Daryl would have been over there trying to trip each other for first.
Speaker 4:Instead you, you know, you came with me and you were there literally every step of the way, and you asked me before the race OK, what is your plan? How do you want to do this? Do you want to be pushed or are we just cruising?
Speaker 1:And I said you better push me on your back as a matter of fact.
Speaker 4:So yeah, so you push me and we, we ran more than I ran in the past up the Hills, we did.
Speaker 2:You crushed the Folsom dam Hill that's a long Hill, says and you, you did that whole thing, man, I was like I was over the moon for that.
Speaker 4:I know we did. We did that whole hill. I couldn't believe it. We went slow, but I think there was somebody that was walking faster than us. But no, but it was a trip. Being out there. You're seeing that all buddy types, all ages, all body types, sounds like just passing you by. You're like, ok, you ages, all body types, sounds like just passing you by. You're like, okay, you know, you get it. Like you know you never know. And so, but yeah, the day of the race is great. I felt so good. The two oranges work beautifully. I didn't feel like I was like hypoglycemic or anything. I had hydrated. You told me to hydrate with all my liquid IVs and so Daryl had them out for me and I did all that hydrating.
Speaker 4:We had spaghetti the night before I did all this stuff that they, you know, you guys, tell me to do, and so I felt super prepared and, um, and I felt really good and and we ran with my friend Marcella Um, she, she didn't train for it, but she, she's thinking about running the shamrock, and so you better run it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's run a half marathon before, yeah, so I was talking to her, she and Marcella, if you're listening in, man, I'm so proud of you and I'm so pumped up for you.
Speaker 2:You are a badass because you said you marcella flat out said I didn't really train for this, I didn't really train and so to show up to a 6.2 mile run, which in this case is 6.4, almost six and a half miles, because they'd be lying to us to this. And you know when, josephine, when you said, hey, when I sign up for something, when I commit, I'm all, all in, I show up. I remember when she came to the finish line and she said hey, when I signed, josephine, I told you I was going to be here and I'm going to do it, and if it killed me, and she did it. And so, marcella, huge shout out to you for being that kind of a person man. The world needs more of that.
Speaker 2:You and Josephine are powerhouses for sure. So that's awesome, sis. I love that. That was a beautiful day it was. We were so blessed to have such an amazing day, and you're signed up for your next 10K. But before we do that, tony, based on what Josephine has just shared, any bits of wisdom or anything that you think you want to, you have taken with you right now to move forward on this journey, tons, I got to get that spaghetti down before.
Speaker 4:That's the easy part. Yeah, Before right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, a little notes Look forward to that though. Yeah, I'm taking it all in. But yeah, definitely got to. Maybe I need to call her on the side about the nutrition part, Cause I feel like I can probably use some of that. But yeah, Well, part because I feel like I can probably use some of that.
Speaker 4:Yeah, well, fortunate for you, you have an amazing cook at home.
Speaker 5:No, yeah, no, she is Jamie is.
Speaker 4:She's very healthy and she can definitely help.
Speaker 2:Yeah so, but the good one of the things I want to give you a little insight is and for anybody listening who wants to run is be patient with your nutrition, because if you didn't hear this, I'm going to repeat it Josephine figured out what worked for her after 12-week training program. She tried a bunch of different things during her training program, could have been frustrated, could have said you know, this is BS, I don't feel good when I run. She could have used any time as an excuse, like my body just doesn't accept this. It wasn't until literally and she didn't find out until after the event that like, oh my gosh, having two cuties before I do a run like that, that's what works. But it does, man. I remember when I was training for my marathon, my coach was telling me I mean, you're going to have to explore and experiment every time you run, because when race day comes, you don't want to be out there because you might have to pull over and take a dump in the woods or something. Man, if you ain't dialed it in right.
Speaker 1:As you do this, tony.
Speaker 5:I want to run on the trails I've been on.
Speaker 2:Big picture from the upper half right, don't worry about the lower half. Oh yeah, I see that, tony, as you're out there, doug, we should.
Speaker 3:By the way, whenever we go on long rides or anything else, we plan out our bathrooms. I mean running and biking. You got to plan that stuff out because you don't want that to go all bad. And I hate to say I sent a couple of little videos to Josephine about maybe runners gone wrong, right.
Speaker 2:Hey, team P just left a few T-shirts out in the woods here and there, so we layer up for different reasons.
Speaker 3:Hey, doug, I want to. I want to remember something you told me when you did your marathon. You said when I get to the end of it, I want to finish, but I want to kind of do it I don't know if you use the word respect. You want to do it but not just collapse at the finish line. Remember that, doug, yeah, yeah and Josephine, you came in, crushed your time, and isn't this a great feeling of finishing something? And you were fresh, excited. I mean, I think that's a big deal, right, finishing something and not like you see those poor Olympic runners where they literally collapse at the finish line, you know, because they're going for their medals. You finished with grace and you were happy and you were high-fiving. What a great feeling. And we literally went home and took off and traveled the next day and I mean you not only crushed the race and finished, but you did it with such grace and you were so prepared.
Speaker 4:It felt really good. I was. I was so happy just to be finished and to get through my first one and it was a challenging one and I was proud of that. And just to um, I knew I beat my time. I wasn't sure how much and I didn't really wasn't really that concerned about that, but I was. I was just happy that I did it and I felt so good, like I wasn't really sore the next day. And I guess now I have to train harder, according to my brother. Okay, we're going to have to step up your game now. But, yeah, I definitely, cause I'm a slow runner and, um, that is one of my goals is to just definitely pick up my, my lung capacity and my speed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, can I, can I offer you a little suggestion about, uh, self-talk. You don't, don't say things that like I'm a slow runner, you're. You're just a runner If you just trust, if you just the process, if you just trust the process, that the everything will come in its time and in due time. But, man, if you cause, when you say things like I'm a slow runner, here's what happens and it's just, it's inevitable. You start looking at other people's times, you start looking well, man, she's done this or he's doing that, and and then you get out there and you're trying to do your thing, you're trying to stay in your lane, man, and it takes the. Your wheels come off because you're not in your lane and it's really running. It's slow process. That is meant really meant.
Speaker 3:If you follow it properly, it's meant to bring you me, hey, doug, here's what we're gonna do at our house right when we get off the zoom, I'm gonna put a, I'm gonna put a big jar in the middle and every time josephine uses the s word slow word. She's got to put a dollar in there how's that okay?
Speaker 4:yes, not the other S? Yeah, I'll get rich off of that one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that's good shit, sis, but keep the positive self-talk going. Here's the thing. None of these things, and I hope the seed has been planted, but I hope you water it and nurture it and put the right soil around it as you continue on it and nurture it and put the right soil around it as you continue on that. Man, if you can make this just a lifestyle and again, it doesn't mean you got to sign up for 10Ks all the time or half marathons or even a marathon, but just if you can remember how your confidence is up, how you broke through some mental I mean I'm telling you people that I work with that have struggled with depression and anxiety. When they start running, they have these huge shifts, these huge shifts like they're seeing joy again, happiness, they're feeling good about themselves, and so it's more oh my God, they start running, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's not about running a 10K or this event or that event. It really is, man, if we can help you lean in just to a way of life so that when you're can you imagine being 60, 70, 80, 90? And again, like you said, all shapes and sizes out there. Man, it ain't about the shapes and sizes, although it does feel good when the size feels good. You know what I'm saying. That's just saying what I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 3:You know what I'm saying, Ava Jo and so, uh, it's, it's just good stuff. Go ahead, daryl man. What you got, just uh last thing, we're heading into shamrock. Literally that morning, and by the time we got go um back to our house and we showered and took off for reno, five people signed up for the shamrock yes and I'm sorry, it wasn't because of doug you and I or peach podcast, it was because of Josephine Right, you are absolutely a multiplier.
Speaker 5:I wanted to say I didn't get the memo until later, but hey, I'm in there though. I'm in there. No, but I mean Josephine you realize.
Speaker 3:I mean Josephine is a very outgoing person. We'd be at a party, We'd be at a friend's, we'd be at a school function, and she would mention it and she every time she would say why don't you run it with us, Right? And she got multiple, multiple people and that's even expanding. So I think Josephine's, maybe, maybe her running thing should be multiplier. She's the multiplying effect because you know she really, truly has inspired.
Speaker 1:There's another dollar in the jar.
Speaker 2:She's all I got to get the slow cooker for the pot roast.
Speaker 2:No, I'm just kidding. Hey, you guys, let's, let's. Uh, you know we. First of all, josephine Tony, thank you so much for showing it up, and I know it's not easy that sometimes people get a little nervous getting on a podcast and like, oh, you want me to talk, but you guys came up. You showed up, man, because this is part of the journey, so we appreciate you. But before we actually close everything out, are there any last words you want to, or ideas or comments that you want to give to anybody who's considering running or afraid of running? Anything you want to leave the listeners with?
Speaker 5:Well, for me, and I think for Jamie too, because she's not a runner, like, uh, Josephine said, and like I know, uh is that, um, she does not like running at all. But I think, once you get out there, just start walking. You know, just start walking and and then do the. I mean, you don't have to start running, but, like, you know, like, even like, challenge yourself to like that one minute run or half a minute or whatever like, or even just pick a, pick a, a zone, like, oh, I'm going to run to this light post, I'm going to run to this bush, you know, and just start doing that. You know, I mean, it's, it's not, you know it, it doesn't. I think that will get jumpstart.
Speaker 5:Yes, Anybody to start running, because I it did for Jamie. She she's was walking, walking, walking, and then she found this little thing I'm going to run one minute, I'm going to walk two minutes, and then she just kept going with that, you know, and mine was the I'm going to run to that light post and I'm going to stop, and I'm going to walk to the next one and I'm going to run to the next one, you know.
Speaker 2:So yeah, Well, hopefully you do that in circles, Otherwise you're going to end up in uhallejo. No, I'm just kidding. And Josephine, what about you? What do you want to add to anybody listening in thinking about this?
Speaker 4:It can be done Like I. I would never, ever have I ever been a runner, an outdoor runner. I've done like treadmill and stuff like that, and outdoor running is a different. It's a whole different ball of wax, but it is. And I will say I have a coworker that I told her you just have to get past 20 minutes. Once you get past 20 minutes, you can run an hour, you can run an hour and a half, you can run as long. You just have to get past that 20 minutes and then you will feel good and you'll keep going. So if you can get the stamina to run 20 minutes, then you have the stamina to run 30, 40, an hour, anything, anything. You can just get to that. I'm telling you that 20 minutes. There's something about that. At least for me, that just is. Is it?
Speaker 5:you'll be able to do it and I think a lot of it too is like uh, what you tell yourself too. If you tell yourself like, oh, I can't do that, why I quote that? A guy told me when I started, uh, during covid, we started working out and he told me, uh, can't means won't. So if you, you know what I'm saying, so yeah, yeah, that's a good one. So I mean, you just think about that and um, just it's all about what you tell yourself and you got to be think positive and and you know and build yourself up. You know, like what you think and how you say and what you and actually what comes out your mouth. Really, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2:So what I loved about what you both just said is uh, they go hand in hand. One of you talked about taking baby steps, lampposts to lamppost, and the other one said build up to 20. You know, there's a technique, there's a program right there. Right, run lamppost to lamppost, run lamppost, walk a lamppost, run a lamppost, walk a lamppost, whatever your markers are going to be, and then build that up till you get to 20 minutes, man Cause one lamppost is going to be two lampposts and then three lampposts, and it's going to just build from there. So, baby steps, make sure you walk before you run. Make sure you walk before you run, mentally, emotionally and physically. Um, you guys have shared some amazing stuff and, again, thank you again for jumping on our show and being here with us, daryl. I think that's about all we got, man, and they shared some final takeaways with us. And what do you say? We just sign out, the way we always do, and say God bless and peace out, peace out, we're out, bye.