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Two guys and an occasional guest breaking open topics on: Purpose, Energy, Attitude, Commitment and Health through shared experiences.
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S2EP01: Finding Meaning in Maui The 10K ft Climb to Resilience and Connection!
Daryl shares his transformative experience climbing a 10,000-foot volcano in Maui as part of a Misogi challenge, highlighting the interplay of fear, mental resilience, and the community support that propels one through life’s obstacles. The conversation dives into personal growth, the importance of preparation, and the insights gained from both success and suffering along the way.
• Daryl reflects on the launch into a new year and the excitement of starting Season 2
• Introduction to the concept of a Misogi and its personal significance
• Preparation involved gathering knowledge and overcoming mental obstacles
• Emphasis on fear and how it can hinder or motivate
• The emotional challenges faced during the climb
• Acknowledgment of the importance of community and encouragement from others
• Reflections on personal growth and newfound gratitude post-climb
• Invitation for listeners to embrace their own Misogi experiences and challenges
Looking ahead, we prepare to shift gears as Doug shares his clarity planning process in upcoming episodes. His insights promise to inspire and challenge our perspectives on growth and achievement. As we wrap up, we invite you to be part of this journey by sharing your feedback and suggestions for future topics. Join us as we continue to explore themes of purpose, energy, attitude, commitment, and health aiming for a fulfilling and engaged community.
Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to the Peach Podcast. Just a couple of dudes and an occasional guest breaking open topics from everyday life on purpose, energy, attitude, commitment and health. So, if you're ready, listen in as we live to learn from our losses, gain from our gratitude and laugh as we level up. To learn from our losses, gain from our gratitude and laugh as we level up. Always remember, if you ever feel stuck, all you got to do is just start.
Speaker 2:Come on, let's go. Welcome back to Peach Podcast with your friends Doug and Daryl. It is so good to have you join us for the new year Hello 2025. Daryl, we did it to have you join us for the new year Hello 2025. Daryl, we did it, we made it. We're here.
Speaker 2:I'll have you chime in in a little bit, daryl. I just want to really quick. I just want to say, if you're tuning in, thank you. Thank you so much If you really want to support us and move forward with this vibe and this just community we're building here and please share this episode or any episode that you find useful or insightful. Please share the episode.
Speaker 2:Also, text there is a little text link in the program description below every episode. You can click on that text link and we would love to hear your comments, your feedback. You can click on that text link and we would love to hear your comments, your feedback, some suggestions for future episodes topics whether it's topics or people or places, anything. Just bring it on and Darrell and I will find a way to put it in the context of the acronym for PEACH, which is Purpose, energy, attitude, commitment and Health. So, with that said, let's just move, daryl, we're gonna in 2025, we're gonna call this our second season we're gonna do. Daryl and I are still strategizing and fine-tuning some ins and outs about podcasting, so we're gonna move in from season one into season two, starting off 2025 with season two.
Speaker 2:And this is episode one. And, man do, I have a guest for you on this particular episode and I think it's going to be a fun, fun interview. But let me introduce all of you to my good friend, my brother from another mother, mr Daryl Gannis. Daryl, welcome back to the show, welcome to 2025. I know you're in Maui right now, but thank you for taking some time out of your trip to sit down and just share with the audience, with our listeners and our community. Brother, God bless how you doing, man Aloha and mahalo man.
Speaker 3:I like the sound of that. Season two, episode one yes, that's nice, Nice. First of all, happy new year, doug. Happy new year to our listeners. Just couldn't be more grateful. Thank you, doug, for the great opening, like you always do. We are. We're truly thankful for all the feedback and everything else and really, you know, looking to really roll into 2025. Pretty cool, pretty cool Recording this on the second. We're holding to our commitment. We're still sticking to the Fridays. So we're holding to our commitments and, like we said, doug and I are strategizing on something, but we definitely wanted to move to season two. So I'm excited about this episode, but, Doug, hey, you're the host with the most, so I'm going to turn it back to you.
Speaker 2:All right, brother, right on, right on. So, daryl, you just finished completing a Masogi, you know. If you don't know what a Masogi is and you want to get a deep, deep dive into it, I recommend reading the book the Comfort Crisis. He gives an amazing explanation of what Masogi is in one of the chapters there. But if not, you can just look it up on the internet, google it, and you'll get a pretty decent explanation of what it is. But the way he breaks it down in the book it's a lot more detailed and specific and there's variations of it. So it's a really cool description that he has in the book. But anyways, daryl, what inspired you to take a Masogi and what were your expectations going on it?
Speaker 3:Well, I think two things, Doug, we've done a lot of. You know, the typical thing about Misogis are one they have to be hard, right? That's number one, doug. We're all about, you know, doing hard things. But this is a little different. This is doing something hard, but like I don't know right, you don't have this certainty of doing it, and Like I don't know right, you don't have this certainty of doing it. And the other thing is don't die, right? Those are the two things.
Speaker 3:So you know, we've heard about it and we follow Jesse and a lot of other things. And first of all, big shout out to our book club. We're on our, I think, fourth book, Our men's book club. That we do is amazing and, as you know, I am all into this Comfort crisis book. I love it. And I've heard about Masogi's, but they really did talk about there and it's about trying something that is truly something that you're not sure you can do as a 50% chance, and it's really about more self-learning about yourself. And also it's a way to kind of I don't know once a year kind of challenge yourself and kind of, and I hadn't done it so I didn't know what the benefits were, right, but you hear about it, but kind of first time it's try something. And also it's a little bit more personal, right? We do a lot of team things, doug, and I love the team things, and I'm not saying we couldn't do a team of Sogi, but this was. This is more about me, right? You know what I mean, about Daryl and what I'm doing in something hard. So I about it.
Speaker 3:And then Josephine mentioned we talked about it for years going and doing a vacation while we stay home and we have a wonderful family, so we enjoy that, but going away for the holidays. And so when she said, hey, we're going to go to Maui, what do you think about it for the holidays? And we actually left on Christmas. First thing I did was I looked up cycling, yeah, right, and I looked it up and you know, uh, all of a sudden, every single thing led me to this longest paved climb from sea to summit 10,000 foot climb, wow. And I was like, oh OK, well, hold on, let me look if there's other ones, right, and I did. And of course there's a big biking community over here, doug, big. And I didn't know. I've never been to Maui, right, so it's very different. And so, community over here. Doug, I'm big and I didn't know. I've never been to Maui. It was very different. I got him at.
Speaker 3:Doug, you and I personally have talked about doing a Misogi next year. I sat there and said you know what? How awesome would it be to do one to close out 2024?. That was it. I stopped the discussion Then in my mind it was just swirling, doug, I got to tell you I am most proud of a couple of things One actually doing it. But how many times do we see things out there and we're like, oh, that would be cool to do or wow, that would be over. And then I told you, I told two people Once I did that. I said I'm going to do it, wow, and it wasn't some bravado thing. But I told my, I told the two probably closest people in my life, my wife and you, and that was kind of it. And then we talked about it and then the prep started.
Speaker 2:So that's my going to be my next question. Now that's because I can hear from your story when the commitment landed, it was like it's a done deal, and when Daryl says it's a done deal, it's a freaking done deal. So my next question would be what did you do to start preparing yourself physically and mentally for the challenge?
Speaker 3:I tell you what the prep was huge One.
Speaker 3:I watched videos, you know, and they had different things. I looked at the Strava. There's a way on Strava you can look up, which is a great physical fitness biking running. Other app you can actually play, doug, and it can actually. You can follow the trail the way up. You can kind of see it.
Speaker 3:I read articles and then, doug, I'm six foot seven, how am I going to find a bike, right? Yeah, so you know, first I looked into shipping my bike over and everything else. So there was a lot of a lot of planning and that's kind of my comfort zone. But, doug, when I started to look at it, I wrote down right Transportation research. I watched five videos. I read countless articles. I emailed Maui Sunriders, which is a bike shop over here. I was on with the owner. How do I pack myself, doug? You know, when we go do stuff right, think about all the things we need to get, and I'm flying over there to go do it. So I packed. So that was the physical part right In the prep. Mentally, doug, the more I researched, the more I was scared.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you said that, because I want to ask you the third question, since you mentioned the word scared.
Speaker 3:The third question is what are some of the biggest concerns and fears you had before starting the Misogi. Really, frankly, doug, by myself, yeah Right, I mean we're not talking about doing some lap around the you know lap around the neighborhood or going doing a ride that we've done. I've never been to to maui, I didn't know how. So you know the the good part. And when I look back on it, doug, there was so much uncertainty, doug yeah general uncertainty by myself, right, uh, you know, but by myself.
Speaker 3:Um, those were probably the two, two things. And then, and then that little voice in the back of your brain right, I could go over there and just do some nice rides. Um, nobody's putting a gun to my head, doug. I didn't sign up and pay any money.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. This is me. I mean, like there's no like.
Speaker 3:So I think overall uncertainty and the idea I was going to take on something I wasn't quite sure I've never done by myself.
Speaker 2:Not only could you not get attached to an outcome, which you know I love, but you don't know what to expect. Like, how can you get attached to an outcome? It's man, anything goes man. So, daryl, thank you for sharing that and kind of setting the foundation of where you were inspired, some of the fears and concerns that you had, how you planned and prepped for it. Let's move into the actual experience. All right, to the actual experience. Describe a little bit the most challenging part of the Misogi.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll start with when I landed over here. I landed over here, we got to the hotel Amazing, big shout out to Mau Musogi. Well, I'll start with when I landed over here. I landed over here, we got to the hotel Amazing, big shout out to Maui Sunriders. They talked me into not shipping my bike over. They had a. And you know what, doug, when you re, when you, when you make that step, you got to get started. Right, you get started, you get people involved, everything else.
Speaker 3:I worked with the owner there. They have a new bike shop that opened on the 14th of December, right, 14th of December. From the fire, five miles from me, they have a brand new Trek 62 inch. He says that he's going to take off the shelf and give to me has never been written. Wow, right, so I land, I get set up. That was Christmas. Next day I took an Uber over by myself, just the rays of the beach, talking to the owner. He set up my saddle, he set up my pedals. They actually, um, they didn't have something for my Wahoo, so they actually, uh, did, zip ties my Wahoo onto the thing.
Speaker 3:Hawaiian style brother, Hawaiian style right, and then they gave me some good feedback and I got to tell you, doug, I was planning on doing it on the 30th. And they gave me some advice. They said, daryl, you can do whatever you want. Go on this website and it's got the exact weather mapping of it Right and pick the best day. They go.
Speaker 3:Success or failure is really on he, he goes, no matter whether it's going to be a factor. And I did it, and I actually. And then I went for a couple rides and I went back the next day and I told him. I said, hey, the best weather is saturday because I wanted to tell you that, but I wanted you to find out on your own. So, mentally, doug, I had to pull my shift, mentally in two days, yeah, and this was the day before. So I'm over at the bike shop and I come back here and I tell josephine, I'm doing it tomorrow, damn. And she says and I and when I said those words out of my mouth like I could barely breathe I tell you I mean, I mean, I'm no joke.
Speaker 3:I was like, I am doing this tomorrow, right? You know what I mean um, and so then you know the carb loading and a lot of those things there. So, um, you know, uh, so that was a little bit about free, free uh, you know so that's a little bit yeah.
Speaker 2:So, on the actual ride though. What, what do you? What did you find the most challenging part of the actual ride? Uh, and how did you overcome it?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know if there was one challenging part. You know, like me, I had to break this down into chunks. First of all, Doug, you're riding from zero to 10,000, 10,023 feet. It is 35.4 miles all uphill.
Speaker 2:Damn, that's a long hill.
Speaker 3:Five hours and 20 minutes all uphill. Damn, that's a long hill. Five hours and 20 minutes straight uphill. So I had to chunk it in the, the, the, uh, the areas. How do I get to this so real quickly. Probably the most challenging part was the start. Okay, getting through those first couple hours, because real quick, doug, we've done a lot of. We've done 14,000 foot climbing right, but the longest we've done is about 3,000 feet. So that's about. Sometimes it's about an hour, hour and a half, yeah, so hold on I just want to be hold on Cause you said we've done 14,000 feet climbing.
Speaker 2:I want everyone who's listening to be clear that we've done 14,000 feet, over a hundred miles of up and downhills, up and downhills, and so, um, you know to say, you know it's not, it doesn't compare to what you did. You did 10,000 feet in one fricking climb, man. We got to rest, we got to go down hills, we got you know, on this ride for you, on a, on that 14,000 feet, I think the longest climb duration we do. How long do you think it is on death ride? An hour or something, maybe.
Speaker 3:About an hour and 20 minutes we go about an hour and 20 minutes up and about 35 down, and so we do that six times Right right.
Speaker 2:So the longest we've ridden uphill is about an hour and 20 minutes, and now you're talking about a five hour. And what 25 minutes, or something?
Speaker 3:About five hours 20 minutes.
Speaker 2:Five hour 20 minutes of uphill. Damn Daryl. I just want to make sure people are clear on the perspective.
Speaker 3:here Go ahead, yeah, and if I go back and thank you for the question, it's a great question. Two things. Number one physically. How would I hold up, then, just the mental thought of five to six hours of suffering, climbing. So climbing, biking, is a form of suffering to some degree doug right, it's harder, this right.
Speaker 3:So could I do it physically and mentally for that long? Right, those were the two biggest obstacles. And I told myself I don't know why, doug, because you know what. And then mental. Can you imagine how many mind games I played with myself?
Speaker 2:I know you, so I know how many mind games you played with myself. I know you, so I know how many mind games you played with yourself.
Speaker 1:You rode that hill about 50 times before you got there probably.
Speaker 3:So, doug and I always joke about the Misogi is, you're only. You got to have a 50 percent chance of doing it. So in my mind I was like, well, if I get to, if I get to 51 percent, can I text Doug and say I did it?
Speaker 1:You know what?
Speaker 3:I mean. So I think, honestly, the first half of the ride mentally was the hardest, and there's something psychological getting to that 51%. You feel like you're not on the downhill but you're on the backside of suffering. So that was it.
Speaker 2:Wow, that's crazy. Was there a moment on a ride when you were like your most physically aggravating suffering moment, more so than the other? Was it the last mile, or because you were so tired, or was it in the middle? And I'm talking about the physical part, daryl, like where were some of the pictures?
Speaker 3:on that okay, so let me, let me give you a breakdown, the ride into like three sections. There's a first section you, which is up to about you know, 30, 3300 feet where you're going up some hawaiian residential areas. There's one steep part. You're kind of going through some items up, uh, baldwin or linda, you take a right and you get to the last store, right, and that's at 3200 feet. So you go and you load up and everything else there, right. So there, and then you, uh, then you take a right and there's two areas of switchbacks the lower switchbacks in the upper.
Speaker 3:The lower switchbacks Doug, I was like I knew that I had approximately 40 switchbacks to go, wow. And the lower switchbacks are a higher grade, they're eight to nines and I remember Doug getting through my first switchback and thinking I had 39 more of them and I and I could feel my like, you know, like the eight to nines, you start to feel your legs burn to where it actually mentally starts to really hurt. It's not the uphill, it's that that extra little bit where you're like damn Right and uh. So I think the lower switchbacks, uh, somewhere anywhere between 3,200 and about 6,000, before I went to the ranger station, um, physically, that was by far the hardest.
Speaker 2:So let me ask you this when you said cause I loved how you described you know, when you said your legs are burning, and mentally you're going damn, like. That's a point of like I need to stop or I want to turn around, it's like your brain is saying give up, give up, give up, like it's blaring at you. In that moment, let me ask you this question At that moment, when you felt that damn moment, how many miles did you have left?
Speaker 3:Oh shit, doug Dude, I still had 20 miles of climbing.
Speaker 2:That's some crazy shit right there, yeah 20 miles of climbing in 6,000 feet to go, wow.
Speaker 2:I see I can't even cause. I'm like you said. We do in a. The longest we've done together as a team is is hour and 20 minutes or whatever. And you know we we hit those damn moments, but we know we're going to be done in an hour and 20 minutes. You know halfway through or something. And for you to say you had 20 freaking miles to go in that moment Darrell, this is getting good man, this is getting good, wow, wow, all right. So let me ask you, going through all that, you know, I want you to recall the pain, the frustration, the angst or whatever. Call the pain, the frustration, the angst or whatever. And then I'm sure there had to be a moment where you really kind of clicked in and maybe had some profound insight, awareness or transformation that stood out to you during this whole process, in the midst of it.
Speaker 3:I'll be honest with you, doug, I was a bit shocked on the way up and on the way down of this misogi wasn't just about me getting to the top. This misogi was about my prep, my mental, all the things I kind of like, kind of thought about. The day is life, I think, is we, we text and, uh, we'll get to you guys following me later on the uh, on the, on the, be able to track me up the hill. Some of the people I met along the way were like life, the people you meet along the way. The first person I met guess what his name was? I have no idea. Eric, are you kidding me? Eric, from Seattle, mile uh, about seven, right, tall guy like me. Um, he actually shipped his bike over so we talked and we rode together and then he talked off a little and I stayed with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just want to pause for a second, because I think I don't you know if we have new listeners and this is their first episode and what the significance of the word the name Eric. And Eric is one of the team peach members that we have and and I got to say that, uh, when I observed Daryl and Eric together, they have a really special bond and it's really beautiful to watch. It's an awesome brotherhood and it's unique to them when they hang out alone on their own, there's something beautiful and magical that happens as opposed to when we're all hanging out as a team, and so I think that is so cool.
Speaker 3:I literally.
Speaker 2:That you run into.
Speaker 3:Eric, right, eric, eric, and then there and some of the people you passed along the way and I'll talk when we get through a little bit more but, um, there is a point at 7 000 feet where, because about every uh, it's, I think, the first sign there was a 3 000 foot sign, and then I think there was a five, and then from five to ten, there was uh increments of a thousand right.
Speaker 3:When I got to the 7 000 foot mark and I'll talk about just what the the train is in a little bit Uh, I knew I had it and I started just to feel so good, I knew it was going to be hell, doug, but I had it, and you know I had it, doug, and I text you this I knew from 7,000 to 10,000 was only 3,000 foot and that's one climb of death ride. And I kept saying to myself I can do this, I've done this right, you know. You know I've done this 12 times, I've done this how many times. So, when I got to 7,000 feet and when I got to 6,000, I was excited because I knew I'd get to seven, right, and so it just kind of built.
Speaker 3:But when I got to seven I had a smile on my face and that's when I knew I still but by the way, OK, just to be clear I still had another about two hours of climbing to go, I know, but I still knew I would do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's funny how your mind works for you like that where you can make it connect to a past experience, Absolutely.
Speaker 2:And then, all of a sudden, the insight I'm gaining from you here on this part of the conversation, daryl, is that when we are able to do that, then all of a sudden your brain tells your body you've done this before, 25 times Exactly, and the suffering kind of goes away a little bit. It's like okay, now I know what's going to get done, like the confidence is there. There's no, there's no question about it.
Speaker 3:And I Doug, I man, I tell you, reflecting on things, past experience, even though I hadn't done it, I had done portions of similar things I could relate to it and if you go through life, if you can always go back to certain things you've done or certain things you've conquered, and I think it's one of the biggest things, and you know we'll talk about it at the end, but this is like 95% mental right. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Do it Do these things but, but being able to call on those memories and everything else are huge.
Speaker 2:Yeah. So before I move into, uh, you know, just like personal growth and insight, questions for you. What was it like at the top, darrell? What was the last 100 yards, like man Describe. If we were riding with you, what would we see? What would we feel? I know you sent us a video. I did, I did.
Speaker 3:There was some heavy breathing last 100 yards, heavy breathing.
Speaker 3:I can tell you right here. I'll just say I got to 9,000 feet and I took a video. And, by the way, somewhere around 7,000 feet and I took a picture, you're actually above the clouds, 7,000 feet, you're above the clouds and you can kind of see them. And I think when I got to 9,000, I stopped and I took a video and I literally says I think I'm in heaven Because I just and I zoomed over, I got to 9,000 feet, doug, and the terrain is intense. You go from kind of like normal, kind of Hawaiian type stuff, to woody wooded, to national park, to about about 9,000 feet and above Is there any? And there's no vegetation, right, it's just rock and everything else there.
Speaker 2:You're on a volcano. It's a volcano.
Speaker 3:It's a volcano.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay, and it's a you're, you're climbing to the summit of a volcano and the thing is at 9,000 feet, doug, you can see it. You can see the top, you can see the top, wow, see the top. And you can see it. And I and I took the video and I said I think I'm in heaven and I was going and I had a thousand feet and you and I, doug, we've done a thousand, we've clicked off a thousand feet in our mind and I started climbing and I could see it and I would long switch backs right all the way up and, doug, I got a mad, I got a little emotional because I could see it, yeah, and I knew I was going to make it and I felt good and I felt I knew, I knew I was going to get there.
Speaker 3:And then you get up to the top and, uh, I'll talk we'll talk about John the doctor in a little bit at the end but somebody had told me that you're going to get to this top and you're not at the summit. You're at the parking area, right, and there's a sign that says summit 0.5 miles, and you can see it. It's all right in front of you From that 0.5 miles up to the top, ain't no joke. That's like 12%, 13%.
Speaker 2:Are you?
Speaker 3:shitting me. Yeah, wow, you can see it, it's just this summit.
Speaker 2:Still 12%, 13% ain't no joke, especially at the end of a ride.
Speaker 3:You only have 0.5 miles. I sat there and that's the official top, and so when I started climbing up there, somebody said and I finally got to the top, and there's a little parking, there's stairs, you can take up to the very tip summit, this little observatory. But somebody told me, don't forget, there's a little wheelchair ramp, an accessibility ramp, and take that and you can ride all the way up to the top.
Speaker 3:Don't get off your bike, don't do it, you ride to the top man and I did that and, uh, and I've seen a couple of people on and I videoed what about the last hundred yards? And you're at 10,000 feet, doug, and you heard I was breathing. I thought, man, this, trust me, I can. I was just and I wrote right up to the sign. I stopped and Doug the, it wasn't like accomplishment as much as just pure, like I did it. Yeah, I did it, wow, I did, and, and you know I did it and I'm happy and I literally was bent over, doug, taking a breath, and somebody tapped me on the shoulder. She goes can I take your picture? Where's your phone?
Speaker 2:Cause you must've known, right, you know because you don't see many bikes up there. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so I said sure, so I took pictures, um, but I didn't stay up there long. I stayed up there about 20, 30 minutes. The feeling at the top was just gratitude, um, a little bit of motion, just taking it all in, and, of course, the, of course the views are beautiful, doug right, but I can't tell you how many people came up to me. Wow, right, um, you know, I, I I got these great videos. Uh, a guy from, uh, a guy from Japan came over and he took my phone and he took me over and took some pictures.
Speaker 3:I was doing a little, you know, a little video that will post, thanking everybody that supported me on the way up there. Some guy came over to me from Michigan. I got his number. He said, are you on YouTube? And I was like laughing. I said no, I've got a Peach Podcast shirt and so I text in the peach podcast. And just the people I met up there were great and, um, you know, I just it felt, it felt good. It felt good, but it wasn't like, oh, I accomplished this big feat. I just felt good inside and I had a massive amount of gratitude.
Speaker 2:So, daryl, you're at the top right and I want you to think about maybe you didn't think about this when you were at the top, but I know you've probably thought about it since you've been down at the bottom enjoying your vacation is how did this Misogi challenge your personal perception? What did you learn about yourself?
Speaker 3:I think there was a. Well, I had a couple, you know, takeaways, um, and I think they are things I always knew. But, um, doug, I had some real concerns on could I ride physically for five and a half hours up this thing, right, right. But when I got through the duck man, I'm telling you it was all mental, um, um. And then the two things that I wrote down. I'll just read them. It read this yeah, I just sat there and said I am so blessed. I need to remember that every second of my day, my life.
Speaker 3:And then the second thing was time. Use it, don't waste it. Oh yeah, do you think? Do amazing things with the people you love? And, um, there was a sense of you know, you can pretty much do anything. You put your mind to it and you should do it with gratitude, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:And um, you know, I did this at 54 years old and I'm glad and I don't regret anything else, you know, I just think that it's kind of crazy that I was able to try something and it was kind of a big like like flushing out of all the like, bad toxins out of your body. I felt like part of going up there was flushing all the bad like things in my mind. It's like what am I going to complain about, doug? Seriously, right, you know what I mean. You know what I mean. Look how blessed I am, yeah, right, for all the people around me, the support I have, being able to physically do something to go challenge myself, literally what, what do I have to complain about? So just kind of trying to flush all those kind of any negative and I don't think I have too many of them, but if I do, I mean, come on, give me a break right, yeah um, just flush them out of your system.
Speaker 2:Life is too short yeah, you kind, you kind of answered this, but I'm going to ask that I have the question written down anyways. In what ways did the experience push you out of your comfort zone and what did you discover about your capabilities?
Speaker 3:One thing doing something by myself, that's a big thing, Doug yeah you know what I mean. Yeah, and you know there, and Doug, I mentioned it to you before the podcast, but I want to say it here.
Speaker 2:I did it with no headphones no music, just me and my thoughts. Yeah, and that's rare, because you usually have some something on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and yeah and yeah. And just to kind of just say just that sense of when we go to bed and we wake up, we all look in the mirror and it's just us, right, josephine? I asked her to put a shirt and she did it. It's Peach Podcast on the front. We'll put a picture up on the website. On the back, it basically says grit and then it says you versus you, because I knew this was a solo thing. So I think those are a couple of the the the different things is just, you know, one being able to feel confident in doing something solo, um, and then, secondly, is just being okay with being in my brain, with just my thoughts.
Speaker 2:Uh, for, for this time, yeah, so now it's only been uh, you did that how many days ago.
Speaker 3:Four, five days ago.
Speaker 2:Okay, let me ask you this question, and it's a question that'll probably come up throughout the year. I'll just kind of check in with you, because you know we're partners, we hang out, you know what I'm saying. But in this short amount of time, has this Misogi impacted your relationships with others and what have you learned about communication and connection and what?
Speaker 3:have you learned about communication and connection? I think it absolutely has improved my relationships and my outlook, just purely the sense of gratitude, the sense of being by yourself. But you need people around you, good people, to be loving to get you in this right mindset. Doug, I do want to stop and say one thing. One of the amazing things, and I'll throw it back to you real quick right mindset, doug, I do want to stop and say one thing.
Speaker 3:One of the amazing things, and I'll throw it back to you real quick, is you said hey, daryl, make sure you do the live tracking thing.
Speaker 3:So I was able to track with some of my friends Team Peach and my wife and you guys were actually able to track me going up the hill and coming down and I was able to hear the pings of the text, but I could only see them there. So I, you know, even though I was by myself, I wasn't by myself, I felt like you guys were there, I had some people. I had to do it myself, but the encouragement so even though I did this by myself, you're that takes you one the real way that you kind of I don't know have that multiplying effect is if you have good people around you that love you. Yeah, so I think it's a combination. You've got to be a good person, you've got to have confidence in yourself, but that is a multiplying factor when you have good people around you. And the comments you guys made I think it was about 6,600 feet you basically said spin Daryl, spin with the fire emoji, dude that next 500 feet of climbing. I was freaking on fire.
Speaker 1:You know what I?
Speaker 3:mean and a few other texts and along the way. So it has but just feel good and I feel a lot more calm. Wow, it's not like, oh, I conquered a summit. No, no, I did something hard, I did it by myself and I overcame something. The fact that I ended up making up to 10,000 feet, that's cool, um, but you know, I think it's just about there. So I a little bit, a lot more humble than I expected.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, man, you've had a few few days to kind of unpack and be in the moment and now you're present with the family and enjoying some beach time. You're also the next day just for the listeners out there. The next day, what does Daryl? Because we all follow each other on Strava right? So the next day, all of a sudden you see this damn post from Daryl getting his morning workout in and running and I'm like dude, recovery's important man and he just he's. I don't think he has stopped since he's been there. So we're going to have to elevate your Masogi goals, daryl because, if you could continue to working out after that.
Speaker 2:I don't know, man, I'm just kidding. But now that you've, now that you've taken it, what are some of the things from this Masogi that you can take away to apply to in a practical way to your daily life? Like how do you see it working in in your work life, your, your marriage, your, your being a dad and your friends, all that stuff?
Speaker 3:um, I just think continuing to you know one just realize how blessed we are. I am right I'll be very personal and making sure I'm giving that gratitude and thanks to the people around me.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Um, I think that's kind of. I think that's it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because I feel like the.
Speaker 3:I feel like the, the stronger I get mentally, physically, everything else that's cool, but how can I impact others, right, um, you know the, the handful of people along the way, the little notes from people, the Maui Sunrider people that helped me with this. You know, all you are is a combination of the people along the way that help you. So you know, I kind of, so I, I just want to make sure that you know that. You know, going back to being more humble and all that, uh, that that's, that's one of the big things.
Speaker 2:And, um, you know, let me know, because I need to close with my uh story about Dr John Mills, because I'll give you some room at the end for that for sure, okay, um, and Daryl, since I've known you, you've always been a really big goal setter. You set some big goals and you commit and most of the time you knock stuff out of the park. So I want to ask you doing this, because this is probably the biggest goal you've ever set on a physical challenge for sure. Has it changed your priorities or values? I mean, I hear you talking about just, you know, like you, you're talking real simple, like man, I'm just. I just got to keep remembering how blessed I am. But has this, has this experience changed your priorities, your values and and? Uh, if, if so, what, what? What's changed?
Speaker 3:I don't think. I'm not sure yet, but I definitely think it's a good reflection. Um, thank you so much, doug. Doug, I just got back to the car and I was just about ready to it's kind of decompressing and Doug said hey, daryl, take, take a moment over the next couple of days and journal and write stuff down. So I've done that. I definitely think I'll. I think we'll check in on that question throughout the year. You know, just number one, I think we can do so much more than we think we're capable of doing, doug. I mean, you know, the thing that shocked me is I was in a good mental frame of mind and that just trumped all the physical stuff, right. So I'm just kind of curious, just opening this kind of Pandora's box and everything else, and so definitely I'm going to take that question and, you know, look at it throughout the year.
Speaker 2:Okay, cool, I'm going to give you one more question and then I want you to talk about Dr John and anyone else you might think, like the people who took your pictures or whatever, and people you want to thank or say something about at the end. But for the person out there who is going to look up Masogi or get the Comfort Crisis and read the book and get inspired and then take on an experience like that in their own way, again, the Masogi needs to be personal to you. It doesn't need to be what Daryl did. It doesn't need to be what Michael Easter, the author of the Comfort Crisis, did, or what Doug is going to do. It needs to be personal to you. It needs to be again. A Masogi needs to be.
Speaker 2:It's typically a physical challenge that's going to challenge you mentally, spiritually, emotionally and also physically. It's going to be so damn hard. It's going to take you to those other places mentally, physically and emotionally and spiritually and all that stuff. So the point is not to find something you know you're going to finish, and it's not the point to find something you think you can finish. The point is to find something you have no idea if you're going to finish, and it's not the point to find something you think you can finish. It's a it's. The point is to find something you have no idea if you're going to finish. You really do. It's 50, 50, you can go either way. Uh, but that's where the learning comes in. So if somebody was going to be considering a Masogi based off of hearing this going oh, I want to try this, what, what, what advice would you give them?
Speaker 3:I think number one, um, plan it out and definitely do it. I think it's a year-long goal to do something. Once a year One, I would find something, I would research it, then I would commit to it. And when you commit to something, it took everything from the preparation to communication, to mental, to physical, to actually executing it. It should be something that you plan out and I think it's well worth it. I don't think it always has to be some insane type thing. It's definitely a lot more soul searching when I think about the Misogi.
Speaker 3:It's funny the questions you're asking me about my legs. I haven't thought about my legs a lot about that pain since I got back, because more the reflection has been more mental than physical. So I would say, do it and put something else out there and tell a couple people about it Not all, not a. You know it's a big big thing and and plan for it. Um, and first of all, doing it is the number one. What do you say to the start of this? Get started, right, by the way, you and I. You know I listen to podcasts here. A lot of people some people do misogynist. They never complete them. That's fine. I mean, that's not the intent of it, it's just overall, it's just do it. But I would definitely highly encourage and you can do so much more than you think and it's going to be mental.
Speaker 2:Good stuff, daryl, thank you for sharing that, and I want to give you a few moments to kind of just open up and talk about whatever's on your heart, uh, or or recall some of the people you've met uh, this Dr John you talked about, and other people, and, um, and any last words you want to give.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I'll tell two quick stories, um and uh. Uh, you know, I think that's where I have a lot of the gratitude about the people that I've met when I've been here. Uh, so I left the um, left the last station where you can buy water right, Water, food or anything else, and the only other stop is one little hose up at the water station. You got 20 miles and you ain't got no water right Except the hose. So so you load up, you go, uh, out this road, you take a left and it says you know, next stop 22 miles to the summit, right, no water, no gas, no food. You know one of those signs. So you get through there and some like, oh, and all of a sudden I was like I think I didn't know.
Speaker 3:But I go, I think I'm on my first switchback Right Cause I didn't know exactly where they started. So I go and all of a sudden I see this guy, a guy in a red bike top, kind of a longer hair in the back, um, on a specialized bike, went by him and I don't see many cyclists going up, I think I saw five the whole day and I went by him and I kind of waved, put my hand, went up by him on a hill, yeah, and he didn't say anything to me, so no local guy, probably, just you know, kind of I'm a tourist right. And then I got a few feet out in front of him and he said, hey and he goes. Hey, sorry about that. And he took out in front of him and he said, hey and he goes. Hey, sorry about that. And he took out his earphone Right, and so, uh, he goes, hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 3:So, kind of pulled back, he kind of came up to me and we started writing together. Uh, his name is, uh, john Mills, he's actually Dr John Mills and uh, he lives up in the area up there. And right from the begin beginning I felt like he's like an OG right, and I'm 54, but he was more of an OG than I was. But he probably has ridden up to the top more times, probably forgot more times than he's ridden up to the top. And so we got to talking about stuff and he gave me some advice and he talked about making sure I make it all the way up to the top, talked to me about the switchbacks, Talked to me about this, told me exactly exactly where the 50% mark was which was important. I was about ready to head in.
Speaker 3:By the way, you're close and then you do the typical right. Then he says to me Doug, out of the blue, have you read any good books? And I'm like, well, no, I like. I'm like have you read any good books? And I'm like, well, no.
Speaker 2:I like, I'm like that's a, that's a. That's the last question you think you're going to hear out on the microphone.
Speaker 3:And I said, well, you know, actually, yeah, I said I'm in a book club with men and we just read this one. I told him gap and gain, I told him about the comfort crisis and, uh, he goes tell me about it. And so, so we're, we're climbing this seven, 8% grade. I'm the first switchback and I'm talking about comfort crisis and all this stuff. And um, and he says, oh, that sounds great. He goes, I'll remember comfort crisis.
Speaker 3:Michael Easter kind of put it in his memory. He said it a couple of times. And he says and I said, what about you? And he says, well, I'm rereading this book and he, he taught it was very similar, talked about about going through very hard and extreme situations, and so we got we're, we're, I'm like having a book club right in the hill with John Mills, the doctor, right, and uh, and he tells me, he says you're looking good and we had a few few comments. So we probably wrote together over about 15, 20 minutes. And, um, he says, uh, you're getting close to the 50% mark, I'm going to head down. He says I just ride this hill. I live a little farther down. I just ride for exercise a couple of times a week because I got to get back down and shower and go hit the golf. Go hit the golf course, got a golf tournament right. What?
Speaker 1:a life right and I was just like, wow, that's really cool he goes.
Speaker 2:I'm going to turn around in a second.
Speaker 3:I said, okay, great, I go, he goes, I'm gonna turn around in a second. I said, okay, great, I go, he goes, because you're looking good, so take off. And I'm writing and I'm writing and, uh, you know, I thought, and then all of a sudden I hear him yell my name, daryl, and I tried like I thought maybe something was wrong or I don't right there, and I turned around. He says I want to be the first to congratulate you. And I look back at him and he says you're looking good, go get it. Wow, and he turned around and left. Do you know the energy I had at that point? I want to be the first to congratulate you.
Speaker 3:Somebody said five to six words and it filled my heart and I thought about it every day since I've been here. Wow, and when you think about that, doug, that's the type of thing I want to have that kind of impact on somebody's life. Wow, right, you know why aren't we saying nice things to people? You never know what people are going through. He did this, but he literally saw something in me and wanted to one give me encouragement. But he also saw and says you can do this. He had belief in me. Right, I didn't even cross the 50% mark, right, doug? Like I said, you know and everything else.
Speaker 3:So you know, I've thought about him every day. I'm actually, I looked him up, I know where, I know where he's at and everything else. So, john, hopefully we can connect and everything else. I'm going to buy you the comfort crisis and I'm going to ship it out to you. I'm going to get a couple of pictures and we'll send him a team peach thing and I'll send it to his, uh, his office there. But, um, just never know the people you're going to meet, doug, and the encouragement you have. Um, so you know, when I think about the Masogi, trust me, I, you know, I won't think about it too long before thinking about Dr John Mills.
Speaker 2:That's so cool. What a great story, daryl, to get that kind of encouragement from somebody you know who'd done it multiple times and you know. That's a whole different encouragement from just from having you know friends or somebody saying go get it, you can do this, you know. But somebody who can see how you're writing and kind of like, oh, this guy's got it, man, and it all just sinks in so that that is just cool man. What a cool doctor man. I hope one day when I'm over in Maui I get to meet Dr John Mills and we could talk about the comfort crisis as well. Very cool man. Anybody else, daryl, do you want to? You know there's you've got family, friends and stuff that you want to just give a shout out to, that you want to just give a shout out to.
Speaker 3:Well, just, I think number one, you know all of you guys that supported me and you know, help me out. You know text, you know, you know I started off writing and I had a text with Team Peach and then I texted my wife right there and I realized, I realized this ain't going to work, I'm only going to be stopping. I was like I got to, I brought two worlds together and I was like, oh shit, that was. I don't know if that was a mistake or not. So I text you both, send a picture, take off, and I don't know how many beeps I heard on my uh wahoo in this. And then I I stopped at the uh, the last water stop and I saw, and uh, josephine apparently posted some stuff and your comment was your comment was this text thread is for Daryl's ride.
Speaker 1:It's not about random stuff, Josephine right, so you kind of like tried to rein her in a little bit.
Speaker 3:So I felt, I don't know, it was awesome, awesome, having you guys behind me. And then the people I met the Japanese guy at the top that took my picture all over the. And then the people I met uh, the, the Japanese guy at the top that took my picture all over the place. Um, the people from Michigan, the lady that tapped me on the shoulder, you know everybody there. Um, I do want to tell you one thing I instituted the second role of Misogi when I started to dissent. I was so fired up. But you're writing. Don't forget, doug, you have to ride 35.4 miles downhill when you're done and not die.
Speaker 3:And it's windy right, wow. And so I, literally I took off and I probably said like five times second roll, misoki, do not die.
Speaker 3:Second roll, misoki do not die, um, so I just do that. And then I came back, you know, got a big hug from my wife and uh chief and uh and my daughter and everything else, and you know, um, it was awesome. So it was just really really cool. So so big, uh, big, shout out. You know you always you're only as good as the people you know behind you and everything else. So, um, I really appreciate all you guys.
Speaker 2:That's awesome, d. That's awesome. Darrell, thank you for letting me interview you and me in the first interview in 2025. I'm inspired, man. I'm going to tell you things into action and coming up with some things, and I'm sharing this because I want people who are listening, who may not have done a Masogi or who may not have their 2025 goals all set and ready to go. And here it is January 2nd. Right by the time they listen to this, it'll be January 3rd and going, damn, I haven't even made goals. Um, you know, there, there's ways to put these thoughts, get these thoughts out and organize them, and it doesn't have to be in a day and start on day one and go. You know there's, there's. You can get into a process that's more designed to a lifestyle instead of just trying to check something off the box. So thank you for your share, brother. Off the box, so thank you for your share, brother.
Speaker 3:I really appreciate that, man. Yeah, I think it's going to be a great year. I can't wait. It's going to be off to an amazing start. Season two, episode one. So hey, doug, we haven't talked about this, but I know what I'm doing for episode two.
Speaker 2:What's that, Daryl?
Speaker 3:I'm interviewing Doug on his 2025 goals, his game plan. Like you said, Doug, you know you got to start, so you got some homework to do.
Speaker 1:Some structural tension, huh yeah.
Speaker 3:However, you talked to me a little bit about some of these things and a method that I really want you to share next week, so I think we'll probably I'm going to interview Doug next week about overall kind of the things he talked about, his goals, his plans and also kind of a methodology. That sounded really, really amazing, Doug, so I'm real excited. I think the listeners will get a lot out of that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm really excited too, darrell. Again, it's nothing that you and I come here and we most of the stuff we're learning from other people and, like Masogi, we didn't know about and it was taught to us and you're out there, you know, already acting on it, implementing things and getting into it. That's awesome. I'm excited for you and can't wait to get into a Masogi myself. You know, this method, methodology that I'm going to share next week will be, you know, something I'm just learning from other people, man, so tune in. We're going to keep sharing, spreading love, but once again, darrell, thanks again. Brother Aloha, I think you fly home tomorrow?
Speaker 3:I think you fly home tomorrow.
Speaker 2:It'll be good to see you in person at some point, maybe next week, but with that brother I'm just going to sign off, how we always do. God bless and peace out, peace out, we're out.