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S2EP08: Harnessing Mental Resilience, Celebrating Small Wins and Overcoming Limits!
Jump in! The water is fine! This episode focuses on the powerful relationship between mindset and personal growth, emphasizing the impact of positive self-talk and the ability to embrace discomfort. Listeners are encouraged to celebrate small victories, set sustainable goals, and understand the importance of awareness in achieving long-term success.
• Exploring the connection between mindset and endurance performance
• Celebrating ordinary individuals who pursue ordinary goals, Ted Enea!
• Highlighting the brain's negative bias and its impact on self-perception
• Strategies for cultivating a positive mindset and embracing discomfort
• The value of visualization techniques in overcoming challenges
• Emphasizing the importance of acknowledging and celebrating successes
• Understanding the significance of self-talk and its transformative power
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Hey, hey, hey. Welcome to the Peach Podcast. Just a couple of dudes and an occasional guest breaking open topics from everyday life on purpose, energy, attitude, commitment and health. So, if you're ready, listen in as we live, to learn from our losses, gain from our gratitude and laugh as we level up. Always remember, if you ever feel stuck, all you got to do is just start. Come on, let's go.
Speaker 2:Welcome back to Peach Podcast with Doug and Daryl. It is so good to be with you guys today. We are excited to jump in and just get deep. We got some cool stuff going on, you guys, today, we are excited to jump in and just get deep. We got some cool stuff going on for you today.
Speaker 2:But before we get into the topics, before we get into topics, man just want to acknowledge and thank and appreciate all the listeners, all the listeners, and I'm telling you, our listenership has increased substantially since we started and it's only been eight months, and Daryl and I are both just blown away and so appreciative and we're very humbled, man, believe it or not, we're very humbled and more so than anything else. We are very grateful. It energizes us, it fuels us, it encourages us to keep going to dig deeper, to look further, to look broader and just keep our eye on the prize, man, which is to deliver excellent content on whatever our topic is or whatever our season is. For you guys, because you're taking time to show up and we just want to say thank you, thank you, thank you Again. I want to remind you that in the show notes you'll see a send us a text message. You can send us a text. It's all anonymous, we won't know who you are. A lot of our listeners they do type in their name, their first and last name, just to say hi and introduce themselves, and so we are absolutely, absolutely open to that. But if you want to remain anonymous and offer some constructive feedback, we are down with that. Or if you don't want to remain anonymous and just offer constructive feedback, we are down with that too. If you have suggestions for future guests or future topics, man, please get to the show notes and send a text message button and send us some information. We'd love to take your information and your suggestions and look into them and see if they're a good fit for what we're doing and then move forward with that. So again, man, last week was amazing. Ralph Ralph brought it, he brought the, he brought his game man and lots of new listeners from Ralph too. Thanks, ralph. We appreciate you, brother, you are, you're a good man, You're a solid man and I loved the wisdom you shared with Daryl and I and our listeners, brother. So that stuff's going to live on forever here in podcast land.
Speaker 2:A lot of our guests are just people we run into, like I ran into Ralph. I was trying to get a new pair of shoes because I was doing some running and ordinary people doing extraordinary things and Ralph was fitting me for some shoes. And then we started talking and he started sharing some things and I'm like, oh my gosh, this guy's got to be on the podcast. And so there's another guy I want to talk about before I move over to Daryl, ted Ania. Ted Ania, he's been a longtime listener, from day one Appreciate you, ted, and he's offered great feedback and he shared the podcast with many of his friends.
Speaker 2:But I got to tell you, man, I've been working with Ted in the health and fitness category for gosh for some years and it started out really good and it's getting just better and better and better. Ted has gone from leaning on me for nutrition or structure to physical stuff to now he's gotten to his own lane. Him and I still check in every week, we still talk, we still kind of collaborate on what's working for him, what's working for me, and it's no longer coach-client relationship. We're just good friends. We're people who are challenging each other and encouraging each other. But I got to tell you, ted, when he listens, he hears us always talking about finding ordinary people doing extraordinary things. And so Ted has taken his own little lane and he's creating in his mindset, in his heart set. He's an ordinary guy doing ordinary things, but I'm going to just add he's also doing them on an exceptional level this year for 2025, daryl Ted has committed to doing 5 million steps for 2025.
Speaker 2:He's also committed to doing 2,000 miles through those steps in 2025. He's going to do over 50,000 pushups for 2025. And he does planks five sets for 45 seconds and that's always increasing. This is everyday stuff, daryl. This is everyday stuff. And the reason I'm planting this seed and just giving Ted a big shout out is because in our next season or one of our seasons, we are definitely going to get deep into longevity and just overall health and physical, mental, emotional health and how that impacts longevity. And Ted is going to be definitely somebody we bring on the podcast down the road to talk about that, because when he sets a goal, it's definitely tied to something down the road in the future to create a lifestyle for him.
Speaker 2:So big shout out to you, Ted man. I know he hasn't missed a day for 2025. He's crushing it and he's even doing more steps than his daily recommendations, more push-ups than his daily recommendations. I think probably more planks. He's just knocking it out of the park. So good on you, ted, but Daryl, that's it. Nothing about me, really, daryl. I just wanted to highlight Ted real quick. But what's going on with you, man? How's your running going how? What's going on with you, man? How's your running going? How's your run game?
Speaker 3:going, darrell, it's going well. It's going well. And Ralph, I'll tell you what. I'm one of those listeners too. I listened to the Ralph. I did the podcast, of course, with you and I listened to it twice and, man, I'll tell you what really impacted me and it's really funny. And Ralph, the number men, that ultra, the running group and the ultra club they go deep. Yeah, they go deep. The amount of people and new listeners and everything else. It was like Ralph breaks the internet. If you have kids, you know that was a movie in 2018. It was a hilarious movie called Ralph breaks the internet.
Speaker 3:That's what I felt like last week. So, of course, had to up my running game a little last week and, uh, I gotta tell you I think I might be listening to a few too many podcasts, because I was listening to this one and had some great ideas about making sure that you look above the horizon and you look outward and don't look down as much. And I was doing that on my run and, all of a sudden, I was halfway down and I was like, am I really going to face plant? I was running and I fell. And I didn't just fall, I fell flat on my face.
Speaker 2:So what happened?
Speaker 3:So you were looking above the horizon, I was looking above the horizon and I was not thinking about myself. I was a small piece in this world and I hit a sidewalk that buckled up about two inches and it grabbed my toe and slammed me to the ground. And I was running with Josephine. It was Monday, on President's Day, and I hit and thank goodness, thank goodness, I hit my hands and I came and I sat there for about five or six seconds and I did what any good runner would do as I reach and turned off my garment. I didn't want to mess up my pace. Josephine laughed at me and when I got up and realized, you know, I was like the only thing that hurt was my ego and it was humbling. It was humbling, yeah, so, um, yeah, so I'm, I'm, I think I told you I'm trying to, I'm on, I'm on track, I'm hitting, uh, at my boxing gym.
Speaker 3:Boxing gym, uh, we're doing a February 100 to try to run a hundred miles in February. I'm on track on that, but, uh, but it's good, it's good and um, super excited about the foundation of what we've started this year. And you know, we've, um, we one of the consistent things from the first episode until guests and what we talk about. We talk so much about mindset consistencies and it's pretty much. It's not so much about the physical. Physical is definitely part of it, but definitely something we go do. But, doug, how many of our guests have talked about the mind fails before the body, right? Oh man, you hear that all the time Almost all of them.
Speaker 3:Almost all the time, all the time. So talk about that for a minute.
Speaker 2:Reminds me of a quote from I believe it's Arnold Schwarzenegger the mind always fails first, not the body. The secret is to make your mind work for you, not against you. Yes, I love that quote. Good old Arnie, you can hear me now or hear me later, but I'll pump you up.
Speaker 3:The Terminator. He's an interesting guy. Uh, his story is amazing. Uh, from coming over from austria and like, literally like coming over here not having any money and what he did, and uh, he's always a good person. He still goes to the gym six or seven times a week, to the same gym that he is always gone in, uh, in la um.
Speaker 3:But all that stuff is that the mind's got to be on your side, it's got to be your agent. But one of the problems is our mind is biased toward negative. Literally, it's a fact. It's a fact If you look at it at the bottom of the show notes we'll definitely talk about listen to a great thing.
Speaker 3:Dr Rick Hansen talks about the science of rewiring your brain to be less miserable and the whole goal is how do you reduce the bad and grow the good? But the end of the day, our brains are negative, biased. We're naturally hardwired that way. And I'll tell you what. Thank goodness we needed that when we were back in the Jurassic Park days, because if you look at it, there's kind of five key things that your brain does, in order. First, the first thing it does it can continually scans for bad news. You know you're looking at. You know both external and internal right. When we identify it, we focus on it. They have studies they were talking about and think about. Like you see a hundred lights and one starts flashing red. That's what we're going to identify, that's what we're going to focus on. Literally, we forget the green ones, the gray, we focus on that one. We overreact a lot. The analogy I thought was cool If somebody gives you a hundred dollars, that's cool, man. If somebody stole a hundred dollars for from you, we would lose it.
Speaker 2:You know, it's like think about that. You look at that Like the little thing oh my goodness.
Speaker 3:Oh my goodness, you'd be dying over that. And you know the other one, which is you know the one we always know about, but it was really great to get some science and some numbers. Is you know we had this over learning like negative items impact us more. They've got the ratio of positive gestures versus negative right For every one negative item that somebody might mention to you like I'm not quite sure I really like that outfit you have on there, compared to, I could say five good things about you during this podcast tonight, you're probably going to think about what's wrong with my sweatshirt. Why doesn't?
Speaker 3:he like me you know like literally, and they say it's even more impactful in long-term relationships. Yeah, so I I mentioned this to Josephine and she said something nice to me and she says, um, and she and I kind of looked at her and she goes. That's one of the positive ones I'm going to tell you today. And the other thing is we're real sensitive to negative experiences, right, you know, think about when somebody says something negative to you, it almost fires off. It's that quick to react, it's that bam right, you know you literally want to jump on it.
Speaker 3:So the reality is we are a bit hardwired to being more negative. So we need to have strategies and kind of tips and tricks on what to go do, and so I think I'm going to hand this part over to you. But we started looking at what are some of the mental strategies for athletes and many of these items we've talked about before, but I think it's a good list of them. I'm going to let you kind of go through and kick it off, but overall I think there's 10 of them and I think you and I both picked out some of our favorite that we're going to go for.
Speaker 2:Man, it's so true, right? I remember in the early 80s when I was working, or late 80s, I was getting a job and I was working in sales for my dad at his courier company and I remember learning you can do 10 great things or a hundred great things, but they're you know your clients are going to remember that one negative thing. That was like drilled into you. As a salesperson You're like damn man, a lot of pressure, but it's so true, it is so true, man. I think it's a, it's a survival. I, you know, I I hate using the word negative, Um, but but it is. It seems very negative, but I always switch to. That's just how our brain is designed. It's a survival mechanism. It's what keeps us alive. Our brain looks for the path of least resistance. That's what keeps it alive, that's what ensures longevity. And what we're learning is that we've got to lean into the hard stuff, into the scary stuff. That's what makes us grow. Some key mental strategies. For we're athletes, Daryl, and the more and more we start doing stuff, we're turning in more and more into endurance athletes, and you know it's fun, it's a great journey. And so there's some key things that we want to like, three foundational things you want to really use to kind of just embrace this trip and just life. You know when you're getting into endurance, because life itself is an endurance, it's an endurance task, you know. So one of the core, core values and fundamental things you really want to learn is just awareness. Man, Darrell, I'm telling you, if all you did was become more aware of how you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're doing, you know triggers, man, you would change your whole life just by becoming aware. The other thing is to always remember. The other thing to always remember is that it doesn't get easier. Like, hard stuff is never going to get easier, but if you keep after it, if you keep going and you keep trying, you will get easier. Like, hard stuff is never going to get easier, but if you keep after it, if you keep going and you keep trying, you will get better. I remember one time it was either you or Josephine, you guys were on one of your trips and there was a. There was a quote in the gym that you had relate to me that pretty much said that it says it never gets easier, you just get better, and that that is so true, man, If you just keep showing up, keep going after it, you just get better. And that is so true, man If you just keep showing up, keep going after it, you do get better. That task never got any easier. You just got better at doing it.
Speaker 2:And then, last and not least, is learning the strategy, through awareness and by always showing up, to move from that negative mindset or that negative action, whatever it is, to a more positive one, by asking questions. Number one if you're aware and you're like man, how do I move from this state? Okay, well, is what I'm doing serving me? Is this going to take me to where I want to go? Is this going to help me achieve my goals? Is this going to bring love? Is this going to bring peace? Is this going to bring joy? And then, if the answer is no, then that's simple. Okay, well, what will? How can I move to joy, love and more service to others, or just closer to my goal? Others or just closer to my goal?
Speaker 2:So some key mental strategies for just people and endurance athletes is positive self-talk, visualization, goal setting, mindfulness, practice, pacing strategies, chunking, embracing discomfort, positive attitude and self-belief. Self-belief and focus on the present moment. Focus on the present moment. So I just named off a bunch, but Daryl and I we kind of attacked maybe four or five of them and I'll kick it off, Daryl, and then I want you to go ahead and talk about a few of these as well. But positive self-talk, you know, that's huge, and one of the things I want to just kind of just touch on real quick is that you know, where do we get our self-talk from, whether it's positive or negative, and I think a lot of it is from our environment growing up. Right, it's how you're raised, what your parents say to you, what your teachers say to you, and that's why I'm stressing this and I want to bring this out right now, because I think it's so important if we become aware that what we're saying to our kids, or to somebody else's kid or someone younger than us, or to anyone, forget about the age man, the tongue is a powerful weapon. It's a powerful weapon, so we start teaching.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of things I had to unravel and rewire in my brain, Daryl, because you know, my family joked around a lot and and I was a sensitive young boy and and I'm still a sensitive man and sometimes I can take words kind of literally or, or, you know, maybe not have a great sense of humor at certain times in my life, but, um, you know, and I can see how negative self talk starts developing because you start believing. Especially if things start off when you're really young, you start believing that negative statement that someone said about you. But just as much as you can start believing the negative stuff, you can also believe the positive stuff. Here's a couple positive self-talking statements that I wanted to share with you, to just kind of jot down or re-listen to, to start learning and start practicing. Say things to yourself like. I coped with that. I achieved that. I am getting better as I handle that. It should be easier next time. I can be pleased with the progress I'm making. I did that well. If I keep this up, I'm going to get really good at this. So those are just some examples of some positive self-talk statements that you can put into yourself.
Speaker 2:And there's another person in the world who has a podcast as well and I recommend you listen to her mel robbins. She's got a great book called the high five theory or the high five something. I maybe it's the theory, but it's simply. When you do something like, you can literally be in the bathroom, finish brushing your teeth, look in the mirror and high five yourself. High five yourself. You're acknowledging like, hey, I'm here, I'm alive, I just got my teeth brushed. Step one for the day is done, let's go, and anytime throughout the day. So she had her theory and her concept is to high five yourself throughout the whole day.
Speaker 2:Give yourself that recognition, that applause, start teaching yourself to say positive things, start seeing positive things about yourself. You can. You start building that habit, because it really is a habit. And even the negative talk, this negative talk, the self-negative talk we have with ourselves, that's a habit. It's just something that's developed years over years, over years over years, that we've embraced and taken on. But we can change that through awareness. Again, as I said earlier, if you become aware when it's happening, what's happening, and that it's even happening, you can start taking action to start moving out of that negative talk into a self-talking, a little more self-talking, more self-loving process. That brings more abundance, more joy, more happiness, more peace. But, Daryl, let's talk about visualization a little bit. What do you got for me on visualization?
Speaker 3:Well, I'm going to go back to self-talk for a minute. When I first kind of started working with you and we first started writing, I remember Eric and I were very, very, very young, very, hadn't really ridden, you know, cycles or anything else, and we went on our first couple of rides with you and David and you guys did a great job, kind of taking us under your wing and kind of teaching us. But there's riding, bike, bikes, and then there's climbing and, uh, our first climb, I'll be honest with you, we had very, very little idea what to expect. You know, you go up a hill in the neighborhoods, but we're talking climbing, like climbing for extended periods of time, and you gave us a lot of good feedback. And one of the items you said, you literally said I want you to yell, I love climbing, and we were joking. And then you said, no, yell it. And I could barely even get words out of my mouth and I would yell it as loud as I could to get any breath. I love climbing, I'm a good climber and I was the worst climber in the world, but it's funny because that is lived on for periods of time and every once in a a while I could be by myself and I'm on a difficult climb and I remind myself you're a good climber, right, and it's funny how those items happen.
Speaker 3:And as we were preparing for this, uh, josephine last night was talking about a practice that she's heard of and used, where you don't take the permanent marker right, you take the, the, the, the erasable one, and sometimes you write a little phrase on the mirror and when you get up in the morning you look at it and it's like you're honestly looking at some self-talk that you told yourself whatever that could be, if you're you know whatever and those really work. And I did tell you one of the big transitions I saw is Josephine really, really embraced. Her first, her first 10K is going from negative to neutral to positive self-talk and that continues. So I think it's a huge item. And, by the way, I'm getting prepared for a trail run and we were looking at some videos and several of the runners said here's the positive self-talk I have going up hills, and so these are like literally ultra runners that are yelling out phrases as they're running up hills. So it's something.
Speaker 3:I think that, uh, that we have to go do so. I think it's a huge one. And, uh, I still haven't come up to the thing that says I'm a good runner yet, but hopefully I can. I can yell that one time.
Speaker 2:Darrell, you are a good runner man. You face plants once in a while. But you face plants once in a while but that's okay.
Speaker 3:Visualization this is something you've heard a lot about and I didn't really pay much attention. You hear about a lot of pro athletes doing that. I really kind of got into this when I first started cycling. The first ride that we went up in. The big climb is called Rock Pile. Rock Pile, yeah, and it's intense. It's up in Lake Sonoma.
Speaker 3:You take off from the lower part in the dam, you climb up to the bridge and then you go up and going with Dave the fixer. Dave says yeah, it's been a while since I've been up here. I think it's four or five miles, right, he had no idea he hadn't ridden this right, and we had ridden like five or six miles. And I said, and I saw this look, I said is, are we almost done, cause I was dying? And he says no, I'm not quite sure. And I said how much farther? And he said to me you don't want to know and I'm not going to tell you, right, and the end of the day, as we all know, it's 11 miles, 11.2 from the bottom to the top One way, and then you turn around and come back. You ride to the gate and then you turn around and come back and it's successive, multiple different climbs and hills and there's a few downhills but it's a lot of very steep parts.
Speaker 3:When I went the second and the third time because we've probably ridden it now maybe about 10 times, I think it was the second or third I really was making mental notes because you'd climb up this item and you'd see the top of the crest and you would just try to get there and you would go down and make a turn and feel good and then you'd have see the next one. And I was preparing a couple days in advance of when we were writing and I actually wrote down on a paper and I did the best I could between Strava and my memory and I wrote out each one of the climbs and I wrote them out and everything else there and I counted in there was eight to 10, depending. I was debating on how I did this and it helped me and I literally, and you guys and I and I mentioned, by the way, there's eight hills and we're talking about these and you guys are laughing at me and I mentioned, by the way, there's eight hills and we're talking about these. You guys are laughing at me and I said I've got this whole plan and about five or six you're like Darrell, which one are we on? I said we're on number five.
Speaker 3:I remember and I mentally rehearsed it in my brain and it's helped me. And the second year I did Death Ride. I literally had every one of those climbs memorized. I had gone over them in my head. And I'm telling you, doug, I wasn't a believer in this but it did help me. And even today, like I have a long run that I'm going to do after this podcast, a medium run and everything else, and I know where I'm going to go and I can visualize what it is. I know how you know the backstretch it. This has helped me for endurance things. This has been a key part of my mental because for me, if I can see it, feel it and I can kind of mentally rehearse it, it, it, it makes it easier or it makes it feel like it's not new. So I'm a big believer in this, mainly in cycling. Um, I found this to be successful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, no, I agree. A hundred, 100%, man. And I remember when you had all your hills calculated, when we did Rockpile, and I remember we all joked around and laughed and gave you some shit about it, but halfway through we're all like, daryl, what hill is this? Because we saw the value. Man, if you got eight peaks to climb and all of a sudden you're dying, you want to know it. Like you know, man, if you got, you know, eight peaks to climb and all of a sudden you know you're and you're dying, you want to know. It helps when you know like, hey, we just got three more, let's, let's go. Um, something shifts inside of you. So, yeah, absolutely that visualization technique you used, and that you use for running as well, as very powerful. Keep doing it, brother I I. That's why I enjoy rerunning certain routes. It, brother I I. That's why I enjoy rerunning certain routes, especially on long runs, because I already know them, I know what to expect, yeah, uh.
Speaker 3:The next one is goal setting, so why don't you take this one? This is a huge topic, um, and it covers many different things, but you have a very interesting point of view on this, so I want to hear it from you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, absolutely, and no-transcript, building momentum over a lifetime, not just, hey, I did this in January and then it's forgotten. And think about it, Daryl, how many goals have you set in your life? Right, probably hundreds, maybe even thousands by the time, because you're pretty old now, right? No, I'm just kidding, but you've set a lot of goals. But what if each one of those goals was tied to some kind of a longevity process? They were all anchored and connected somehow through some, whether it was a minor thread or a major thread in your life, of just goal setting. First of all, goals they need to be very you want to start with something that's achievable and that you can, that can be sustainable through the process. Partly, it really isn't a goal if it's something you know you can do. So let me just let me help the listeners out real quick.
Speaker 2:When you're setting goals and if you already done it before, like Daryl, if you and I go to do Death Ride again, that's not a goal anymore, because we've done it a couple of times. Has it been twice or three times? Twice, twice? Yeah, we just train out there all the time, so it seems like we've done it more. So that's no longer a goal, we know we can do it. So now our goal for death ride is okay, now can I do death ride instead of 10 hours, can I do it in nine hours, right, right. So you start implementing new goals within the old goal and they just become part of this longevity process and plan. Because in order to do that, you've got to get better, you've got to get stronger, you've got to eat better, you've got to exercise more or a little differently, you've got to rest, you've got to recover more. So what I like about goal setting is that it does help you elevate and, even if it's just for a short season, man, find a way to connect it to something long-term, something that's going to serve you when you're 80, when you're 90, when you're 100, even when you're 70, if you're still young, like me, in your 50s. Just learn how to connect your goals to something long-term and it just makes. It makes it just gives more value to the goal that you're setting.
Speaker 2:Um, and I, I get it, man, I've done a thousand goals that were just hey, we're doing a hundred pushups, you know, a day for a hundred days, and you know, and I did it and and it stopped, and I can't even remember doing them anymore and I would have. I wished you dare, daryl. I wished I was like you know that would have been cool if I made that part of a goal, that was, had me still doing pushups to this day, even if it was just 25 pushups a day, cause I love pushups, I love that they they encapsulate almost the whole body, your whole upper body anyways. Um, they're good for you and they just help maintain, um, maintain and sustain the strength that you've, you gain doing those hundred pushups a day. So that's what that's my take on goals, but I'm open to hearing any feedback and any, any insight that you have on goals as well.
Speaker 3:Well, as I was listening to you, one of the things I was thinking about is my own journey in goal setting. I feel like the goals I set are a little bit longer and they and I was thinking about them they helped me be more consistent. Before I would set a goal and you know we've talked about I would just gut through it. I'm going to make this hell or high water right, just kind of like brute force, everything else. Now, when I set a goal because I set a goal last year to break a certain time at the death ride on the second year and I did it, but I didn't just set it and just that was it. I actually worked on it and what you said. Now, when I set goals, I don't think just about the physical. I think about the physical, I think about the mental, I think about the nutrition. I start to think about sleep. Now I think about, hey, am I training the right ways? So I think I think it's a little bit more holistic and, to your point, I think it's a little bit longer term for me, right, um, you know, and everything else, and so and it gets back to it's got to mean something and I think that doesn't have to be like a 10 year goal or something else, but you know what are the different items there and, um, you know the things.
Speaker 3:I set a goal to run 100 miles in February. That's more of a short-term goal, but I knew I was training for Shamrock and I said and I actually thought about it I said this is a good goal to keep me consistent. I did it for a reason, right? So I love that Tying it to a reason and, I think, being a little bit more strategic and long-term and, to be honest with you, we really need to think about all three to four levels, not just physical, physical, mental, nutrition, sleep, everything. Right, right, right, right. So, yeah, yeah, I think that would be a great process.
Speaker 2:I was working with. I had the privilege of working with a guy who who worked with fortune 500 companies and he was showing me his process on how he gets them to strategically think about whether these goals or this new thing they're going to take on is worth their while. And he has the company throw up all the things that they love doing laughing and strategizing and coming together and just all these things, all the qualities that all the employees like and they said, out of all these things, let's narrow it down to three. And they got it all narrowed down to three things and every company has three different things. So then, when they take on a new project or they're going to bring on a new employee or whatever, they have to hit those three things, those three categories.
Speaker 2:And I think I love what you just said, that we're setting a goal. You know, if we throw up on the board, on a whiteboard, hey, does this new goal? Is it going to impact my nutrition? Is it going to impact my physical fitness? Is it going to impact my, my mental wellbeing and my emotional wellbeing? You know, like, if it, if it's not hitting all of those things, then it shouldn't be a goal. You're wasting your time. You're wasting your time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the next few are really cool. I'll just mention them. We're not going to go through them.
Speaker 3:Mindful practices, meditation, deep breathing man a lot of stuff about breathing exercises people are doing these days Pacing. I mean that's huge. Thank goodness we have the Garmin watch, because it literally tries to tell you you better think about it, not just run fast, and there Chunking is very, very critical for a lot of the long-term items there. So those are three that are very important, but you and I both picked the same one embracing discomfort man. That's huge, man. I feel like pretty much everything we do is about embracing discomfort. Man, that's huge, oh man. I feel like pretty much everything we do is about embracing discomfort, Accepting that physical discomfort is a natural part of endurance events and pushing through it.
Speaker 2:And so what's the benefit of that, daryl, in your own experience, if you could just take a moment and I know we didn't really go back and forth with this topic a lot, but you're a smart guy and you are in the process. You're literally in the process now. You're always in the process. But what are you gleaning or what are you gaining from this mindset, this shift of stepping into discomfort?
Speaker 3:I think the biggest item is it's embracing it. It's kind of a weird concept. It's embracing it. It's kind of a weird concept. You mentioned something when we first started cycling. It was when you're really your legs are burning and it's really hard. At some point one of the things you realize it's not going to get worse. You almost somehow get comfortable being in discomfort. Yes.
Speaker 3:And when you can do that, your brain kind of goes into a different sense.
Speaker 3:I went and I lifted weights this morning very early in the morning and I did legs and I did uh, did abs, Uh, it was painful. I'm not a big fan of leg day, but I don't doesn't bother me like it used to. And so there's a very psychological game and I think, the more and more that you realize if you can embrace discomfort, I think it helps you mentally get stronger and it really to me, just just kind of opens all the possibilities Before you're like, oh, I don't want to do that because that's hard, I don't want to do that because it hurts, I don't want to do that, you don't think about that. You don't think about what you can't do, you think about what you can do. So it's a really weird psychology and I know we've done a lot of books in the book club and they all have some concept of mental focus on embracing discomfort and I think it's probably the single biggest item that I've really had a journey through and it doesn't make it any easier. You just get comfortable being in discomfort.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, I agree, and it's. It's going back to the cycling analogy you had mentioned, that I shared with you guys years, years ago. That was given to me by a dear friend of mine who had ridden from Canada down to Mexico. And I was riding up a hill with him one day on our mountain bikes, up Mount Tam and Mount Tamalpais over in Marin County, and my legs were just killing me and this, and I looked up to this guy like he was, just like he was the shit man, this cause, this dude was riding all over the place and excellent rider, and I said, hey, mike, mike Emoff is his name. I said, hey, Mike, how do you climb like that man, like I don't get it? It's like am I ever going to not feel this pain? He goes. No, you're always going to feel the pain he goes. What you're going to do is you're that, that's. He says that pain you're feeling right now, that's as painful as it'll get. So now what you're learning to do is building up your tolerance level. You're just building up your tolerance level and so you learn to adapt and adjust and to accept that pain for longer periods of time at a certain pace. You know that rotations or revelations or whatever it is. And so once he told me that, I was like okay, and for the rest of that ride I got to experience his words.
Speaker 2:I remember my legs never got any more painful. They were in a lot of pain, don't get me wrong, but they never got worse. They stayed at that level, as he said, and it just clicked. I'm like, oh my gosh, I just need to build up my tolerance level. And when you apply that strategy or that mindset to checking emails or returning calls or, you know, doing the crap you don't want to do, you know it.
Speaker 2:Just you build up a tolerance to stuff that your mind says is painful. Your mind says it's painful. And, man, one of the things I'll and I'll just I just want to add on here Don't compare yourself to anyone else, because sometimes they're all look at you and I'm like, how the hell does Daryl do that? My mind is thinking it's painful and your mind is you've already adjusted and adapted. And so you know I have to get to a certain level to so that you and I can be on that same page from time to time, and vice versa as well, just like in the cycling. You know you started out a little brand new cyclist and I had been cycling for years, but now you know you're, you're whizzing right by brother. Your tolerance has definitely elevated big time.
Speaker 2:So I love embracing discomfort. It's kind of it's a, it's a kind of a new philosophy that's out there. It's been around for years. I think people who are Stoics have known about it for centuries and that's their lifestyle, because that's where you know all the joy, all the love, all the peace, all the abundance. Man, if you think about it in history and even in your own life, it's on the other side of discomfort. It's really on the other side of discomfort. You got to go through the shit that you don't want to do to find all those things.
Speaker 3:But he's got huge, huge into cycling, right, he even has his own bike team. I think Enjoy Cycle Really cool, really cool guy and he's at a lot of the events and listening to his story I know you and I took a lot away from it. He last summer did what's called Outbound and I had never even heard about it. It's 350 miles, miles, damn miles and a 24 hour period of time. It's this kind of cross cycle gravel type thing and you ride and you've got to try to complete it, I think, in 24 hours.
Speaker 3:And he was talking about that experience and that is just for you and I just mind blowing. And he talked about at some point. He was about like I forget mile 200. I forget exactly what it was and he was really feeling dark and you know the low moments. And then he I don't know if you remember this he said to himself I just started thinking about all I'm doing is putting one pedal after the other, is putting one pedal after the other. Right, that's all it is, yep, and it's just one foot and one foot and one foot and one pedal and one pedal back and forth.
Speaker 3:And that when he broke it down to that simplest thing and he was in crazy discomfort. But he broke it down to that simplest thing. He's like that's all it is, and just when I think about that I'm like, wow, right, and how do you push through it? He pushed through in his mind of simplifying it down to the most simple task. There was Right, and I only hope that we can get to some of those levels and I think we're growing. But I'll tell you what this is. One thing it's like a muscle Doug. If you don't do it, you're not going to get better. If you don't, you're going to wake up one day and you're going to embrace discomfort.
Speaker 2:Right, it's got to be a practice item, right right and just to be clear, daryl and I aren't on this podcast claiming that we've got all this stuff dialed in. We are literally a work in progress and when we find things that kind of excite our hearts and our minds and areas that we know we need work on, like we're talking about this on this podcast, because both Daryl and I, and even Team Peach, we all know that this needs to be constant work and what this topic we're talking about today is man, it's a work in progress. So we're inviting all of you to join in and share. Send us a text, go to the show notes and hit that text. Share with us.
Speaker 2:How are you struggling? What are your? Some of your tactics and strategies you use to go from a negative mindset to a positive mindset, you know. Please share with us. We'd love to hear what you got going on. But, daryl, I think one of the last we also talked about or I listed positive attitude, choosing to maintain a positive mindset even when faced with challenges, self-belief, having confidence in one's abilities and trusting the training done to achieve goals. Man, I love that. Trust the process, daryl. Trust the process, but let's talk about focus on the present moment, okay, avoid dwelling on the past or worrying about the future and staying focused on the current effort? Tell me about that. How does focus on the present effort? Tell me about that. How does a focus on the present moment?
Speaker 3:go for you. Well, I think this could be a um. This is a life. People that are the most successful are the people that are in the moment, right? Um, you're not. You know, I'm not worried about shamrock in four weeks, I'm thinking about the run I'm going to do today. Um, you know, people that can stay in the present um are very much, much happier than people that think about the past or worry about the future.
Speaker 3:Uh, and I want to go back a little bit to uh, and we're going to put Dr Rick Hansen, uh, the science of rewiring your brain to be less miserable. Uh, you know, after a whole bunch of dissertation and brain and all bunch of medical stuff, you know they said give us three, give us some basic hacks, what can you do? And he said there are three kind of evidence-based facts on how to improve your positive experience, and it really talks about being more present. You're going to have ordinary jewels, daily items that are out there. How do you look for the good in them? How do you land them? Let's say you just completed a workout, you had a difficult email that you had to get off to your boss on a subject, and everything else. How do you actually give yourself credit for that. How do you slow down and take in the good on the fly? How do you look for the good facts? How do you let it sink in? And one of the items he talked about if you stay in the present, let's be honest, most of the time, doug, we are completing the task and we're like 90% through and we're already on to the next one. We're just in this rat race. How often do we actually take a minute to let something sink in?
Speaker 3:They call it let it land, right, and that mental thing. And when you let it land, maybe you take that five, 10 seconds. How does it feel? Can you feel it in your body? What is it? What does it feel like? And then also be aware, and why is this meaningful. What is meaningful? What is it enjoyable about to you?
Speaker 3:And you mentioned some things that you had heard on kind of letting it sink in and simple three things, right? Number one you're going to have ordinary things throughout the day. How do you look for the good? How do you let it land? How do you take that 20 seconds after you completed something? Feel it in your body, right, why was it meaningful? What was it, enjoyable about it, and why don't you talk about it? And I got to come a couple of examples. When I started to think through, I was like, wow, when do I, when do I do this Cause? Often I don't. I just skip to the next thing. But I want to hear what your thoughts are on what you can do as far as being more present in the moment. I want to hear what your thoughts are on what you can do as far as being more present in the moment.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I love those three points that you expressed. The ordinary you're looking for the ordinary daily items, right? And in order for that to happen, darrell, I think the simplest thing we can do is decide. And, man, I tell you, too many times we get up, our alarm goes off, we get out of bed, we have a routine, right, it's routine, routine, routine. It's so drilled into us to insert something like okay, today I'm going to decide to look for things that I'm excited about or that make me feel good, or that someone is doing well, so maybe I can give a shout out to someone else. And I think that's our first thing that we need to do is decide that we're going to wake up and insert that positive self-talk, or just that decision talk in our mind that, hey, today I'm going to look for the good. Today I'm going to recognize myself. Today I'm going to celebrate when I can send out an email.
Speaker 2:In the smallest little things, don't start off by doing some big, grandiose thing that you got to do. Celebrate the small wins, man. You'll get to the bigger wins. They'll start coming along. As a matter of fact, if you put enough small wins together, you will have some massive wins down the road. So that's number one is decide you're going to do it first thing in the morning. Number two I think another great way to really help it get embedded into your mind is to, man, just write down three.
Speaker 2:Write down three things every night just before you go to bed, that you did well, three things. And I'll tell you, daryl, that sounds easy, and it sounds so easy. A lot of people won't take the time to do it. We're like, ah, that's not going to do anything. But I'm telling you, man, I did this for a very long season and it started changing my mindset. I woke up different and I started going to bed different. I actually started going to bed excited about oh, I can't wait to write down the three things.
Speaker 2:But in the beginning, I'll tell you, it was hard to write down three things I did well, because the mind is so focused on the negative. It was always jumping to what I could have done better, what I didn't do so well. So that would be my first recommendation or suggestion would be number one decide you're going to start looking for the good. And number two support that decision by writing down three things every night right before you go to bed what you did well and then feel like you said feel it in your body, be aware you find out what's enjoyable. As you're writing those things down, you can just write down, like man that felt good, because write down why it was enjoyable. I mean, there's so much power. We all know it's been around for decades that there's power in writing. So I think journaling this experience will help elevate how it shows up in your life much sooner.
Speaker 3:But you said you had some examples I do and you know what, as you're talking, I'm going to use one from today. I'm going to let it land from today. I had my noon meeting with my boss today. Good report out. It was kind of a big milestone that we had at noon and it went well, had some good discussions back and forth. He thanked us for the work we had done, got some challenges in a couple of different items and we talked about those and how we're going to get forward on it. And it was a team's call and I think we're all on video calls a lot and everything else. And as we wrapped up and as my boss said some good closing words, somebody did the little react button and put a little thumbs up and it kind of floats up on the screen. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Right and I was like hmm, and then they sent a little private note and they said that was a great meeting, Nice, somebody put a thumbs up, yeah, and a little phrase. And afterward, as I was starting to go into my, I did and you know what my three words, I let it land. I was like you know what? That was good and I know that's not a physical thing I used to love. And when we're going to get back to it, because we're going to get back into writing on our bikes post the running thing, we'd go on often Saturday or Sunday, the weekend, we'd go on a long ride and we'd get up in the morning and we'd go do some cool areas If it was the bike trail or up in Auburn or whatever the things we'd have a good time.
Speaker 3:And I never forget getting home or in the garage when you're done with a long bike ride and these are generally between two to four hour rides, so they're pretty taxing and when you get your water or something else and you're maybe looking at your Strava man, the way your body feels, it feels good, man, I tell you what I mean. I just I love that 30 minutes after the bike ride feels good you accomplish something. Um, I was in nature, I guarantee I know I let those land those good Saturday long, uh long items there and uh there, and a recent run I had with Josephine um the one that I fell, but it was still a good run afterward, instead of running on and taking a shower, we actually went upstairs and we did some stretching together.
Speaker 3:Right, I tell you what I really. I, I don't even think about that. I fell, other than she reminds me quite a bit about it this week. But, um, uh, but the idea is we, we let it land. So I, I, you know I don't want to get too, you know, like touchy feely, but I just want to on a handful of items. Doug, I want to let it land more. And sometimes letting it land is like three deep breaths they talk about a breath in and out is between five to 10 seconds. Deep breath in exhale. Maybe that's all you need, you know. But so my thing is I'm going to try to be a little. I think I'm pretty good at being present, but I know I could be a lot better. And how do you let it land?
Speaker 2:I love that, darrell, and I'm glad you're sharing that and saying that, because you know, I think I'm one of those people and I don't think I take time to let it land. I think I really I. You know, after I finish a bike ride, I sure I enjoy, you know, hanging out, maybe having a beer with the guys or just talking about, you know, kind of rehashing. Oh, remember that hill, remember that downhill, remember that flats we were all balls out on that. But somewhere in all that my mind goes to man, I could have done that hill better, I could have climbed faster, I could have sprinted here.
Speaker 2:And I go right to that negative South Talk that we were talking about when I ran my first marathon. I ran a freaking marathon, daryl, and when I crossed that finish line, I swear I looked, I was looking at the clock, the finishing clock, and going damn it, I didn't get in under the time I wanted to, you know. And then I remember, after getting through the finish line and being present for a little while, like oh my God, I think it was. You said, doug, you just freaking ran a marathon and I was like oh yeah, shit, I should celebrate that, you know.
Speaker 2:But it's crazy. I think there's there's a lot of people out there like me who get stuck on what we could have done better and did better. But uh, I that's why I appreciate this podcast and what you just shared on how to just let it. Let it land for a minute. Man. What look what you just did and we talked about it on a podcast before. We're like in the one percenters right, or some kind of low percentage of people out there doing the kind of stuff we do, and when you think about that, that's pretty extraordinary, man. It's pretty awesome that we get to do that kind of stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and as we close, and then we get to the quote card because it's mine, one of the things I heard this week and let it land. And somebody used the word already. You're like already, and they said you're already good. You're already good enough, doug. You already completed a marathon. Yes, right, not that you don't want to be better, but already, as of today, as of this present, you're already good enough, right, we always want to get better, but think about it. Let it land and already.
Speaker 2:Yes, I love that man that's solid right there, let it land and already so quote card, my turn, my turn, my turn, my turn.
Speaker 3:And, by the way, I don't know if we're getting competitive. I had, I had three of them and I went over with with my wife last night and we we landed on this one. I think it's very apropos to what we talked about.
Speaker 2:So it's good enough and give it to me already.
Speaker 3:Um quote card. It's not what you say out of your mouth that determines your life. It's not what you say out of your mouth that determines your life. It's what you whisper to yourself that has the most power. I'll read it one more time. It's not what you say out of your mouth that determines your life. It's what you whisper to yourself that has the most power.
Speaker 2:That is good. Yeah, man, that's so fitting for our topic today. Wow, good, good choice, daryl, very good choice. Yeah, man, that's so fitting for our topic today. Wow, good choice, daryl, very good choice. Yeah, man, like I just said, I can complete some monstrous task or goals, but inside my head, not celebrating.
Speaker 2:So what I love about that quote it has power, both ways, and you have to decide which power you're going to feed the negative or the positive? That's what that quote tells me is that, man, you better damn well be careful of what you're thinking, not so much what you're saying, but what you're thinking, because what you're whispering to yourself is what you will eventually probably manifest. And so if you're saying you didn't, you weren't good enough or it wasn't, it wasn't good enough, then that's, that's who you're going to be, that's what it's going to be, regardless of what anyone else around you thinks. And but if you finish, and you, you know, like, for my example of the marathon, I'm like, man, I just did Sure, it wasn't the time I wanted, but damn, I just did that shit. How awesome was that. What else can I do? You know what? What if I just did that? What else might I be able to do Like if I finished.
Speaker 2:With that kind of a mindset. I'm whispering those words. I'm excited about what's next, I'm excited about where I can, on what I've, just the brick I lay down in my cathedral, one brick at a time, and I'm building that bad boy and so I'm excited about that one brick I put down and where it might lead to and what this might look like down the road. So that's what that quote means to me, daryl man. It's a great quote. Thank you for sharing that. Great topics, great podcast. Loved it all, man. Loved it all you got. Anything else you want to add or close on, close with?
Speaker 3:all good, all good. Um, thank you uh to our listeners. I'm super excited on the feedback uh that we get. We get a lot of things. We get texts, we get uh stuff through the channel. We get, uh our relatives reaching out to us. So, just uh, thank you so much. Uh. Ralph broke the internet is gonna be my new favorite phrase. I gotta text him that him that afterward I'll send him the little link to the movie. Yeah, ralph broke the internet part two.
Speaker 2:That's awesome. All right, brother. Well, we just going to close out like we do and I'm going to just say God bless you and peace out, Peace out. We're out.