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Two guys and an occasional guest breaking open topics on: Purpose, Energy, Attitude, Commitment and Health through shared experiences.
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S3EP11: 50 miles, Countless lessons: Attitude, Mental Toughness & Serving Others!
What does it take to push your body and mind to complete 50 miles of mountain trails, climbing 7,500 feet of elevation through scorching heat and pitch-black darkness? This raw, unfiltered conversation takes you deep into the world of ultra-running where the real victories have nothing to do with finish times.
From the practical challenges of nutrition (burning a staggering 9,400 calories) to the unexpected difficulty of nighttime trail navigation, every mile delivered hard-earned wisdom. The most powerful moment? Finding a fellow runner stranded without water at mile 33, sharing their limited supply, and later receiving a message: "I couldn't have finished without you." That single act of kindness reframed their entire purpose on the trail.
Beyond the physical feat, this episode explores the psychological dimensions of extreme endurance events. The mind quits long before the body, and maintaining a positive attitude becomes a genuine superpower. Even at mile 45, approaching an aid station to find volunteers who had set up disco lights and were playing "Stayin' Alive" in the wilderness became a moment of pure joy that carried them through the final stretch.
Whether you're an experienced runner, considering your first trail event, or simply fascinated by what drives people to these extraordinary challenges, this conversation offers remarkable insights into human potential, community, and the unexpected gifts found through voluntary hardship. The lessons extend far beyond running – they're about approaching life's obstacles with the right mindset, serving others in their moment of need, and discovering capabilities you never knew you possessed.
What seemingly impossible challenge could you overcome if you approached it with the right attitude? Listen now and find the inspiration to push your own boundaries, whatever they might be.
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Speaker 2:Podcast with Doug and Daryl. I am just going to get right into this episode because we have a huge weekend to unpack. Actually, the weekend also included Father's Day. Had an incredible time on Father's Day. Spent, actually celebrated Father's Day a day early with my dad and a couple of my siblings.
Speaker 2:My beautiful niece, ava, went out to a killer restaurant, a little hole in the wall. I'm not even going to say where it was or what it was because I want to keep it a hole in the wall with that. It's off of a hidden trail road and it's just got. It's authentic as hell and it's just freaking amazing. But if you want to know, there's a text message tool in the notes of the show here. Text me and say, doug, where's that restaurant, what kind of food and where's it at show here. Text me and say, doug, where's that restaurant, what kind of food and where's it at, and I'll let you know. If so, if you really want to know, man, you're going to have to text for that one.
Speaker 2:Then I went down and spent time with Max and Yvonne and my two granddaughters down there we had. I went down, I told Max, I made a deal with him. I said hey, I'm gonna come down, you get all the stuff, get your Blackstone. He's got one of those big Blackstone grills and I said I want bacon, eggs, potatoes and pancakes. He said you get all the stuff, I'll come down and I'll cook, because he had a 16-mile run to do for some training. He's training for a marathon, the CIM. I showed up early, got the grill going, got everything cooked. Oh man, darrell, cooking breakfast like that outside in the backyard the bacon, the bacon, the eggs, the potatoes and the pancakes. Oh, it's like camping man and I just I loved it. He was finishing up his run, everything was done by the time he got back and and then he treated me to an incredible day of golf and Yvonne came, we got an extra cart so the three of us can go out and Yvonne's mom watched the girls and just had a an outstanding, wonderful, heartwarming, memorable time, and that was one for the memory books. We had an incredible time. I want you to share a little bit about your Father's Day later.
Speaker 2:Right now what I'd love you to unpack. Those who are following us. They know what you did this weekend. They know you did what's called the Cool Moon event and they have multiple events in there. They have the 100 mile, the 100K, the 50 mile, the 25 mile, and ever since I think it was February or so you and Eric have been challenging yourself and kind of elevating your game on these trail runs and you're really moving into this, and so I really want you to take some time to kind of unpack Again.
Speaker 2:We are not a marathon running or a trail running or just a running podcast. We're not experts, but we are just. We're a couple guys who love cycling, who love running, who love fitness, we love to lift weights Daryl's an excellent swimmer and we love hanging out, and so you know we don't want to make this an ultra running podcast or a cycling podcast, but there are lessons in between all the things we do. There are lessons in the moments of the things we do, and what Daryl and I are trying to get in the habit of is capture those lessons almost immediately after an event and then, as we share the event, break down some things, and then I'm going to ask you some questions, daryl. They're going to just come to me. This is not scripted. As I hear how you unpack this, I definitely leave some room for me to kind of just ask some random questions and unpack this thing so that we can give great value just to the everyday person who's trying to excel or level up in life all around.
Speaker 2:So Daryl and Eric did the 50 mile cool moon. I think it was over 6,500 feet of climbing, freaking trail run man. I think you guys ran for over 16. I think it was closer to 17 hours if I go back and look at my notes. But break it down, daryl. Give me a quick little recap, man, what's going on?
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'll give you a quick recap and I think, uh, it was great. I appreciate a lot of texts and discussions. You called me on Sunday night after we uh it. Uh, you were, um, I think, driving home from uh Max, first of all, happy father's day to you. Uh, I know we talked happy father's day to all of our listeners. Hopefully everybody had a wonderful time. Um, it was great. It was great Father's day weekend, uh, able to do something active.
Speaker 3:Um got to watch uh, cause I couldn't do much on Sunday at the end of the uh, the golf tournament, which was amazing, the U S open, oh my goodness. Oh yeah, wow, wow. It was really cool, uh, so, first of all, you uh, we chatted briefly, text all weekend long and appreciate all the encouragement from you. We talked about it and you said to me write it down. Hey, write down, write down some things. And I really focused on, uh, what I learned, because I really was that's, that's what we're going to talk about. Let me break it down. It's, um, the. The nice part about it is. It's kind of weird though, because this is like our cycling route. We cycle this area all the time.
Speaker 1:We go up to Semaphores. We bike that crap, we go up.
Speaker 3:Cool, we go up Auburn, and so now we're running up there. So you go to the event started in Cool. It was outside of behind the fire station where they have a lot of trails and horse runs and everything else. It was a large event. People know about it. Um, there it's uh, it's about 350 people Um, some really famous uh trails up there. Auburn is kind of considered to be the endurance capital. They have a lot of major like uh runs up there. They've got Western States in a little bit.
Speaker 3:They had the canyons and others, but they got some really famous trails. Um, it ended up to being 51 miles and 7,500 feet climbing. Wow, you do two loops and one is the North Loop and that's kind of the harder one, we'll talk about that in a minute which is about 13 and a half miles, and where you go down the Auburn Ravine, go through this thing called Salt Creek Trail, the wall, the hardest, the hardest, the hardest climate, called pig farm I don't know why they call it big farm. Um, but it's a pretty cool. Um, and the nice part is they had live tracking, so they had a tracking system and so we send it out to people like Doug and others and they could see us.
Speaker 3:Uh, when we had that and they had sponsors, um, there's about 54 people in the 50 miler. It was interesting. 37 finished. Talk about that later. Yeah, you had a lot of time to go do it. The people that we met there they text us afterward and they said, hey, listen, congrats. And they're like hey, it's a tough course, with some serious heats, it's not an easy day. So, spoiler alert, we finished.
Speaker 2:Yes course with some serious heats. It's not an easy day. So, uh, spoiler alert, we finished. Yes, congratulations, man. You know again, I know we've all. You, daryl and eric were were inundated with messages from, from team peach and from family. Uh, they well. So you guys are very well loved, well supported, uh, people, and that I thought that was cool watching those text messages go across throughout the day.
Speaker 2:And, daryl, before you go on, I want to just say something, because you said 54 people signed up. I think there was four no-shows in the very beginning, but then the rest I mean because only 37 finished. Not only I mean that's awesome, but that who's out there doing an event. This is a great life lesson Number one, because you didn't finish that event doesn't make you bad, it doesn't make you a loser. If you showed up to the run, you freaking won. I mean that that's a huge life lesson right there. So those who went out there, started the race but could not finish, congratulations for showing up and giving it a shot, man, and do what Daryl did. Write down what you learned. Write down what you learned, because that's so invaluable man. So hang on to that and congratulations for showing up and getting it started and trying and trying. All right, daryl, go on.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So the interesting this was a little bit like Ooh, this is more like big time, this was real. You know, we got there. I picked up Eric at three o'clock. We got up there about four. We had to set up our tent. We had our pop-up. We had to set up all our supplies. We had to get ready, we had to check in. The a hundred milers and the a hundred K left at 5.00 AM so they left, right, it was still dark, and then we got to listen to the speech. I'll tell you these are the people that are going to be running for 24 to 36 hours. Seeing them on the starting line there's not a lot of high five and stuff. They were, they were, they were somber. That's a, that's a somber thing. When you're back at that line, well, you gotta be locked in man.
Speaker 2:You're like okay, let's do your. You got to be locked in man. You're like okay, let's see You're, you're in the mode. Yeah, so it was cool.
Speaker 3:Um, uh, I think the biggest thing is I wrote down the things we learned. Eric and I have been doing this since, uh, february. Um, there, it's our fifth uh ultra event. We had done, uh, 31 miles about four weeks prior, so we knew in our mind we could do that. Uh, this is a little different Animals and mountains and pop-up tents. I mean it was a full weekend, right, so it's cool. The obvious lesson, which we'll get through pretty quick, is it just reinforces man every time is the mind fails long before the body. Oh yes, I mean, all this did was just really reinforce that concept.
Speaker 2:Darrell, you said that's the obvious lesson. So tell me, give me like maybe two or three examples during the day, if you can, if you can go back to uh last Saturday, where, where, where were moments when your mind was saying I'm done, but you kept going like can you recall any of those? Or maybe you heard Eric speak that way, or I don't think we have a lot.
Speaker 3:I mean, the idea is like you could talk your, you could talk yourself out 50 miles. It's just like the 50 miles, right, right, like just that whole thing you're at. You're at 25 miles, you know you got another marathon to go right. Your mind, your mind can just mess with you and what you know and a lot of the things we've done. You, you got it and you got to, like, run from aid station to aid station, right, right. And how long were the aid stations.
Speaker 2:What? How far were they apart from each other?
Speaker 3:Um, you know it's kind of interesting. Um, there was one that was like at 2.5 miles, so it wasn't very far, but then you might have 10 miles in between the next one, so they were anywhere. The shortest one was 2.5 and the longest one was 10 miles, right, okay, um, and so you kind of mentally had to think through there. Um, I think the thing you have to do and I'll talk about it you have to manage discomfort. Things are going to hurt, like like. I mean, like Eric in the first mile said Hmm, I haven't had my ankle hurt in a long time and we just finished mile one because I yelled out mile one. He goes yeah, thanks, I think my ankles hurt, right.
Speaker 3:And like you're scanning your body, your mind starts to play tricks on you. Knowing the head of time. There will be difficult times and one of the things they do talk about is um, sometimes you think, oh, I got 50 miles, or people, a hundred miles, I might struggle at mile 45. You know what, doug, there's a lot of examples where you you might have something that comes up at mile five, right, right, I mean like you're like oh man, I didn't know how to deal with that. You know, I passed somebody on the first loop and I said to him I said how are you doing? He says not as good as you struggling Right and um, you know we're in the, we're in the first loop. That person finished Right.
Speaker 3:Um, so you just got to learn how to manage discomfort.
Speaker 2:When you say the first loop, what is there a mileage in the first loop, or what does that consist?
Speaker 3:of the first loop is 13 and a half miles and you go out and then you come back to the main area and then the second loop is 11 and a half. So you add them up and you do two loops and they're 25 and then you repeat that. Wow, I think also doing the recon work. It probably wasn't ideal that you know right after we got our ride that we, we, we did Sunday and Tuesday. It was pretty close, but Eric and I actually were able to kind of mentally have seen those, uh, and it helped out a lot.
Speaker 3:He's giving his little speech and the grace director is just absolutely just amazing. He did the Arizona 300, which is the first time they've done a 300 mile race in Arizona. He completed that this year. So he's a pretty seasoned guy and he's giving his speech. And, doug, you've been at a couple of these.
Speaker 3:The first thing they tell you is it will be hard. That's awesome. I mean they literally that's what they tell you and you heard that in silver moon in here. This will be hard. You have time, pace it out, execute your plan, and he said it might be harder than you expect sooner. Yep, the third loop, which is um, when you're coming back and you're probably mainly getting out there at two or three in the afternoon in the heat and you're going down these really high declines, these really descents and ascents in the climbing. He said, hey, if you have a problem, walk the whole thing, right, I mean. He said, if you want to finish, I mean so. So the concept of this is going to be hard, right. Um also just you know learning from others, right? So, uh, it was really good. So a lot of, a lot of key things, but overall um was really happy with the kind of our mental type thing.
Speaker 2:So you said you, you, you already spoiled the alert. You, you and Eric finished. You know, I mean, I knew that, but for the listener's sake I just want to repeat that you guys did finish. It was hard, was it what? Uh, from Daryl's perspective, you know you knew it was going to be hard. Was there any part of the hard that was surprised you? Or were you just so locked in You're like, and everything's going to be hard and it's, I'm just going to get through this damn thing. Like what was going through your mind through that moment?
Speaker 3:You know um? We met some people uh riding last weekend.
Speaker 3:uh right, that were some people you talked to and they, uh, you introduced them and, uh, one of the ladies that you, that we met on that that trail, was, uh, all, all three of those women were incredibly, incredibly good athletes and they'd done a lot of those. And everybody told us the same thing right, nutrition, hydration is going to be the number one item, and make sure you focus on that, you'll get through Right, and so we had to focus on that a lot. It got to be the point where I'd get to an aid station. I didn't want to drink another thing of water to save my life. I don't think I've ever drank more water. Electrolytes had more watermelon, or I mean, but you had to force yourself to go do that.
Speaker 3:Eric and I were like, let's get through loop three, which is the hard loop. Now I'm just going to tell you, you get a little ahead of yourself. We went out on the first loop, the North loop, and we did really good, by the way, on our training run. We did it in four hours in our um, uh, our, we actually did it in three hours and 25 minutes. So we're coming back feeling good. South loop, that's an easy one, not that much. Climbing. That South loop kicked our butts Right. Isn't that true, doug?
Speaker 1:Anytime you get a little ahead of yourself.
Speaker 3:Life just comes and whacks you. You know, and uh, we were like, is this over? And so it was cool. It was cool, um, uh, then running at night we'll talk about that was so much harder than I thought. Ah interesting Way, way, way harder. The one time we ran at night before we were on a kind of a flat dirt trail.
Speaker 3:Right and the moon was out and it was wide right, we're in the middle of, like, the forest mountains on the side, with single track up and down, and we got our Home Depot flashlights off. We started kicking rocks yeah, that's what Eric called it, and man, that's not fun to kick rocks, and so, uh, I, I running at night we'll have to get way better at and it was way slower and way harder than we expected. So I think that that was, that was. That was one of them.
Speaker 2:Yeah, especially if you don't have a great light system. Did you see any people out there that had a really good quality light system and you guys have a parade in that section, or what.
Speaker 3:Oh yes, or we're going to not be the ultra runners, we'll be the ultra ultra walkers, because then you can't run without a good light.
Speaker 3:Um there was probably an hour at night where we didn't see a soul. It was just Eric and I. Of course, we saw a skunk, but we didn't get sprayed. But um, and then, all of a sudden, we came up and we saw these, these two lights. They were behind us and they came and caught us. They were the a hundred milers. They were kept going and they were running together and, man, they had, they had a light on their chest and on their head and, dude, they, they could see directly below them and they could see out in front. I think that was our problem. We could only see either out in front or directly below. So so, in fact, one time, a couple of the a hundred milers and they, the the good a hundred milers, they know what they're doing at night. They run in Paris, they, they always have a buddy system. We'll talk about that and one time we got behind them and we actually could run because they had better lighting yeah.
Speaker 3:And so, um. So I think that the night ops and it just we had, we had to kind of look. Um, I tell you the other thing is, since we went out, those last 10 miles felt like they took an eternity.
Speaker 2:Oh, I couldn't imagine, dude.
Speaker 3:I mean 50 miles, and then you're a mile 40, and then it gets dark and then it's hard to run and then you're running 20 feet and then you're walking five feet and then you're running 20 feet and you're walking and it just, it was just hard. I hit on the nutrition and fueling. I was super happy about that. I think that is probably one of the number one items everybody told us. By the way, you, you need to be, you know, drinking X amount per hour. You need to be eating X amount per hour. I tell you one thing Doug, taking those gels, that doesn't cut it.
Speaker 2:You need real food, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Real food. Right, you need bananas. There was one time.
Speaker 2:How many calories did you burn out there? Did, did, did you? Uh, yeah, I was about.
Speaker 3:I was about 9,400 calories.
Speaker 2:Not wait.
Speaker 3:9,400 calories Yep, damn and that was over 16 hours, wow and so.
Speaker 2:You said eat real food. You were eating something. I cut you off. What were you saying?
Speaker 3:Oh, you know, you first start off and you're eating your gels and you're eating, you know, some watermelon and stuff like this and I tried to stay away from like the Joe Josephine made her famous turkey avocado sandwiches that were just like to die for.
Speaker 2:Oh, that sounds so good right now, oh my goodness, it was so good.
Speaker 3:Ava for Father's Day made Eric and I some oatmeal chocolate chip cookies.
Speaker 2:Yes, I had some of those. She brought them out to my grandpa's dinner and those were amazing.
Speaker 3:So we did. And then, through the night, these aid stations, which we'll talk about in a second. These aid stations are just off the hook. You go up to them, you're coming in with your water bottles and all that. They come out from behind there when they see you coming and they say what do you need? Oh, wow.
Speaker 3:Like valet service huh, I say, oh, I'm going to get some water. Oh, let me get that for you, Right? What do you need to eat for you, Right, Um? What do you need to eat, Right? Um? Hey, do you need some water? There's a sponge over there. You walked up to one and people were like like fixing your electrolytes and getting you all set and all this, and somebody over there. You just walk up there, you just you just put your head down and they dump a whole thing of water over your head. Wow, Um and uh, get you all cleaned up. Later in the night they had chairs set up at these aid stations. Sometimes they were helping put people back together that were struggling.
Speaker 3:Right, they were they had to sit down, but they actually like, I felt like they were like there to take care of you. Right, it was, it was so cool.
Speaker 2:Big shout out to the aid station people.
Speaker 3:I'll tell a story at the end about. There's a great story.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:At the last aid station. So, uh, eric was saying we both just got tired of eating the same junkies, we need real food. And we walk up to one and they just delivered the pizzas, oh nice. And they had warm pizzas at like six o'clock at night and there's never been a better piece of pizza in my life, right, and when we left there, running out of there, we talked about the pizza for 30 minutes. It was not only a nutrition, it was a talking point for the next 30 minutes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 3:Later on at night they were making quesadillas. They had bone broth and it was just, oh, my goodness, it was some good stuff, so you guys were well fed.
Speaker 2:in addition to, josephine got prepared for you as well.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, it was super cool. Hey, I do want to talk about. We got to the third loop. So we run 25 miles and we're heading out about two o'clock and we got to do the hard last 13 and a half we make it up pick farm. We just hit the aid station and we got this really long descent which was hard, and then the last big climb. So we got about another eight miles to do on the hard stuff.
Speaker 3:We come across this guy and he's sitting on a rock. First person I saw sitting down right Sitting on a rock in the corner. We talked to him. His name was Tom bib, number 137. We talked to him for a few minutes. He was on the descent and I just talked to him.
Speaker 3:You look at him from the outside and I'm like this guy's probably's probably run, you know a hundred of these things, just totally in shape. Just you just look the part Right, right. He says hey. He says I'm not okay, I'm calling it a day. We're like oh, okay, um, you know I hadn't been, hadn't been in that situation before. I was like what do you need? What help do you need? Um, cell service, can we call someone? Or there he says no, I was able to text my wife. I live in the area. She's going to come up. There's a road a couple of miles up here. I'm going to walk up there. And I said, okay, tom one, 37, tom 31, 37. I said, get to the next aid station. I'm going to let them know that you're here in case, right, right. And so, as Eric and I start running down, that was a big wake-up call. This ain't no, like, this is not some you know little, uh, you know trail run, you know where?
Speaker 3:you're stopping at the am pm every once in a while. We're like multiple miles away from any civilization and this guy is looking and he did not look good, but um, he said he's fine, he said go ahead. And so eric and I kind of walked, ran down the trail and you go all the way to the bottom and you go across and then you go up what's called the wall. That was probably maybe a couple hundred yards ahead of Eric and um and I looked like I could kind of see it was a very steep section. Then it went to the right and I looked and I thought I saw someone. And as I got up I saw someone sitting down. And as I got up closer, he wasn't just sitting down, he was sitting out in the middle of the trail. I mean there was like you sitting down, he was sitting out in the middle of the trail. I mean there was like you couldn't go around this guy. Right, and he was sitting there and he had his poles across him and he had his two hands out and he has water bottles in them, right, right and uh and I I I'd recognize him from earlier in the day, we had talked to him Right and uh, I said, hey, are you okay?
Speaker 3:And he struggled, kind of talking, um, uh, his name was Tam um bib, number 153, and we were at mile 33 and it was the hardest, hottest part of the entire day. And and I said, well, what do you need? And he didn't say anything. I said do you have water? He says no, I'm out of water, oh damn. And and I said, oh, okay. So I grabbed my water bowl and I went to go fill his up. He's like no, no, oh, okay. So I grabbed my water bowl and I went to go fill his up. He's like no, no, no, I can't. And I just said I just grabbed it from him. I was like no, and I dumped my whole water bottle. So now I'm out of water. Right, trust me, I was in way better shape than he was. So I filled it up and he drank and and a half on a hard section is hard, but there was a water. There was an aid station. About a mile and a half up there was actually a water station. I said, don't forget, there's a water station up there. So I'm just, you know, I'll, I'll be fine, I'll get my stuff.
Speaker 3:He said thank you, thank this guy, he's like sitting on the middle of the trail, right, right. I said, tam, get up and walk with us. He goes, no, I'm going to slow you down and I'd be like, no, I said get up and we will. I said we will walk you to the aid station and then from there you can decide what you go do. And he says okay, and he, he couldn't get up.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow, and I mean I shouldn't say that he tried to get up and he was struggling. So Eric grabbed his hand, hold him up. And Eric, literally he said, daryl, go ahead a little bit. So I went ahead, um, just a little bit, and Eric and I was maybe a couple hundred yards that Eric literally walked him up to the uh, the, the aid station, right, wow, and I was there waiting for him. We had water for him and he drank his water and got them all set up and we made sure he was okay and it was just a water station, the people weren't there and um, he said thank you, thank you. He said you're good. He said, yeah, go, go, go, um. We saw him later, um, in the uh, in the, in in the race later on and he kept pointing he's like these guys saved me, he saved me.
Speaker 3:And then uh and then the next day, um, he sent me a text. I'll read. I'll read it to you real quick and, believe it or not, like we said, you have time. He finished Wow, the race was Tam and he, literally he sent me this text with his medals and everything the next day and it says I could not have finished the race without your water and air accompanying, when the heat and the steep hill, uh combined, nearly defeated me.
Speaker 2:Thank you again, oh that's so freaking awesome that you know what that's makes that whole event, that 50 miles you know like I mean. What else I mean you know the medals don't mean nothing after that, nothing Wow.
Speaker 3:And when I, when I wrote down that night, you know you told me to write, I put serving others right, tom 137. We checked on him and we checked on the app and they said, yep, we got him. You know, uh, he did not finish. He got brought back. Tam, you know we're buddies. He's texted me a couple of times. He wants to know the next event we're going to do together, right you?
Speaker 1:know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And in that point Eric and I both realized this was bigger than us finishing. Yes, right, and it kind of gets down to more of a community, right? I mean the people you meet, the aid stations, the organizers, the spectators, the pacers um family and friends. Josephine said something out I didn't find this out till later where all of a sudden I started getting a flood of texts on my watch and I think she told people hey, they're at mile 40. They got 10 miles to go send them a text. And I got like my, my watch just blew up, right With all these people sending me stuff and and you know, and you're doing this alone. I mean, I'm the one that ran the 50 miles. Eric ran the 50 miles, tam ran the 50 miles, but you're not alone.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean you got a lot of people there.
Speaker 3:And one last story, and then we'll wrap it up. At mile 45, we're going into the last aid station. It's dark and we're going into it. And at night these aid stations were, you know, typical pop-up tent Doug, maybe you know ice chests and a whole bunch of stuff there. At night they put lights all over them. You know, obvious, yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:So you walk up there and they got lights kind of heading up in there there was a man and a woman and the same people like are at the aid station the whole time. They're there for like 40 hours. So like it'd be two, three people, maybe they have, and we knew them, we talked to them before and we got all set and Eric had another piece of pizza. He was all happy with themselves, about five miles to go. And the lady said something and she looked at us and says how are you doing? Are you feeling alive? And I said yeah, I feel great. So she goes, so you're alive. And then the man hit a button and started playing, staying alive, and then he flipped the switch and they had disco lights and they started going stay in the life, stay in the life.
Speaker 3:And the lights are going and we're in the middle of nowhere.
Speaker 2:And that is hilarious. That's so awesome man.
Speaker 3:We are busting up Right. And they're like you're the first people we've done it to. How did we do? We've been working on this for a while, right, and you know, I mean like you do that we got five more miles. We're like we walked out of there. We you do that we got five more miles. We're like we walked out of there. We talked about that the whole way home.
Speaker 1:So, um, it was really cool.
Speaker 2:That is awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah. And then the last thing I just I just kind of highlighted and I talked to you about this you know different races. I mean, doug, we've, we've cycled, we've raced, we've done a whole bunch of, we've run, we've like, sometimes we're together but sometimes we're not right. Right, right, eric, oh, my goodness man, what did he? He crushed his um uh, half marathon at Shamrock. He was gone. He was doing eight, eight minute miles and everything else. Right, I think you were, I think you were ahead of us too. Yeah, you were, you were ahead and I was with the group. So sometimes you're together. Eric and I agreed we're going to do this together.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know we said because you know we hadn't done this, but because we were doing it together, we weren't side by side the entire time. You know, probably two thirds of the time we were together at the beginning. Eric's Eric. I went a little ahead of Eric and he says I always had you in my sight, right, and I would turn around, so maybe we're a couple of hundred yards away from each other. There 're. So you know, there, and we both have strengths. Um, I was a little stronger on climbing, eric starts a little bit slower and then he just man, you know what, he just builds and builds, he gets at the end.
Speaker 3:That guy gets freaking strong at the end like the middle and the end man. I just want, I'm just like trying to keep up with him the whole time, right and uh, when we see each other we check in hey how you doing anything? No, two thirds of the time we're just chatting back and forth having a good time. Um, double checking making sure at night we didn't miss a turn. Safety we brought our go deep cards and we're all night. Oh you did about mile 40. We broke them out.
Speaker 3:Eric and I started kicking rocks when it got dark. That wasn't fun. That hurt like this. And when we were done we had packed up and we were leaving about one o'clock in the morning it's a long day, yeah and Eric was putting some trash in the garbage can and he saw two people and they could barely like he says. It didn't look like they could even walk row and they were going out by themselves two individuals into the 13 mile loop by themselves in the dark. Oh man, I'll tell you what eric and I said I don't know right. We like the buddy system, especially at night and everything else. This isn't like you're just running around a track or something else like there. So for eric and I, this, this format, the buddy system did work.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um, yeah absolutely and and and you guys, like you said earlier, you know you were together two-thirds of the time, but there's time throughout the day where you're kind of solo and you were. You're within eyesight maybe one, one to 200 yards, but I think sometimes having that little solo time is is good and then regroup and run. I like the buddy system, I like how you guys did it and, yeah, when you see people going out by themselves, especially in the dark like that, that you you gotta be going. Dang man, that's, that's tough man, cause you you're in the pain cave and you got no one but your own dang self. But you know that that could be a benefit, you know, for some life lessons. You know, sometimes all you got is you, but but I hear what you're saying. I hear what you're saying. So, overall attitude, man, what was it like?
Speaker 3:Darrell, if I look at the thing I'm most proud of and I really take away, I think if you really want to know what Eric and I's superpower was is, I don't think him and I have ever had that good of an attitude. The night before wanking up pre-race aid stations, eric came up with a rule.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And he says when we get close to an aid station, I don't care if it's uphill, I don't care if we can barely walk or anything else we're running into the aid station and we're smiling.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love that rule and about, I don't know, mile 35, this uphill station. Eric starts running. I'm like, oh man, I run and run and go up there and smile and everything else and uh, I think that really made a big difference. Um, there wasn't a time where you know we, we we're in a pain cave or all this, and then if you're going to do something, you better enjoy it. I mean, like you, enjoying it could be enjoying the suffering or anything else, but I was so happy with, um, our attitude and Eric was a big inspiration to me.
Speaker 3:He literally he says I want to. He said to me I want to leave an impression on all these aid station people. I want them to remember this person that came up and thank them. He was like super thankful and everything else there. So that that's kind of what, uh, if I and I mentioned this before we got started I think that's uh, that was my biggest takeaway. Right, if you're gonna do something like this, you know it's going to be hard. You got to enjoy it, um, and you got to have the right attitude.
Speaker 2:That's so awesome. You know, daryl, as I'm listening to you kind of break down things and as I'm uh, as I'm reflecting back and kind of recalling this whole journey from you know, from when we first started the podcast, daryl, you know, was not the non-runner and now you're doing these freaking crazy ultra events kind of in cases or encompasses. You know the acronym of our podcast. You know Peach Podcast. The acronym for Peach is purpose, energy, attitude, commitment and health. And there's so much purpose in what you guys are doing and I love that you're finding these bigger than the event purposes in helping and assisting others. I think that's a very Team Peach underlying theme that none of us really talk about openly but at every event somebody is helping somebody and I think we all. There's something about that in service, the service part of it all. So I think that's a big part of the Team Peach purpose and your guys' energy has been outstanding throughout this whole thing and, as you just described earlier, your attitude, outstanding attitude, just getting educated and committed to the process and obviously you needed commitment to get through this and finish and you did. And all this stuff you're doing is not going to just impact your health physically, but your mental, emotional health, and so huge kudos to you guys, man, and you know the team is looking up to you guys and being inspired and being pulled by you guys right now while you do these things.
Speaker 2:And you know it's important that we learn from your lessons, from what you would change, what you did different, what you different, what you learned about yourself. How does this stuff apply to your life? And that's a great question. Let me just pause there for a quick second. And everything you did, daryl, what's one takeaway? You can do multiple ones, but give me one takeaway that what you did here applies to a life, just an overall, general life lesson dealing with work, dealing with marriage, dealing with being a dad. How does and does any of this spill over and how?
Speaker 3:Oh, absolutely, and that's why I think we talked about the purpose of the podcast today. I've really completely enjoyed learning something new. Yes, like it's running, but it's so much more. It's running, it's trails, it's gear, it's attitude, it's training. I'm really enjoying learning something new, something that was very foreign to me, something that was not in my wheelhouse, and I've been able to learn, and I'm continuing to learn and um, and learning it in a positive way, right, helping others, um, you know, learning new things, and you know, for me, that's a big part of my life. I learned a lot, I think. Um, also, I think definitely spills over into my family life with Ava and Josephine and my friends and work. It's just, you always want to be learning and getting better, not just for yourself, but overall, right, and so um, so you know that's it, so, um, anyway, just overall, if I really look at it, I think it's a bit. That's that's the biggest thing.
Speaker 2:I'm learning a lot of new things um and doing more than I expected that I could do, right. And you're in a season right now where you're learning about recovery a little more from this intense run, because Daryl's the kind of guy that will go do a 100-mile ride and then he's out doing another freaking crazy Like, for example, we all did a 70-mile ride a couple weekends ago and it was a grueling 70 mile ride and the next day him and Eric go out and do a, uh, a recon run for, I think, 13 miles or something like that the next day and we're just like shaking our heads going man, these guys got a huge run coming up, man, they need some rest. They blah, blah, blah, blah. And then after that, I think a couple of days later, you went and did a. You know sometimes, uh, it's I know for you, specifically for you, sometimes it's hard to rest, it's you know. But in this season, what are you learning about rest and recovery in this, in this, from this particular event?
Speaker 3:Well, this event was very interesting. I mean, you're, you know, you're out there, for you're up for about 24 hours by the time you leave and you get back, um, you're, you're on your feet running for 16. Um, you know, um, and so I knew I was going to be sore and everything else. And it was father's day, and at a wonderful time, I think. We, uh, uh, we had a nice breakfast, you know, brunch, at like three o'clock in the afternoon, but it felt pretty good Monday morning, feeling good, all sorts, you know, doing good. And then I'm, I'm, I'm working and uh, all of a sudden, toward the end of the day, um, man, I'll tell you what my feet started swelling up, my ankle started hurting and uh, like, like, legitimately like something it wasn't, like it was different, wow, like, ooh, and so, uh, I talked to Eric a little, we, we did a cold plunge last night and I started researching it, recovering all this.
Speaker 3:And there's a real thing. It's called. It's called um. They talk about recovery. One of them was called DOMS, which is a delayed onset of um, you know, musc, uh, muscle soreness. They talk about um, two to three, two to threes post thing. It's very common to get swelling the pure amount of water and food you take in during that day, like it takes. It's not normal. It takes your body a while to adjust. Um, you know, um, like my feet are. My feet are swollen. I mean like really really swollen, wow, um and uh, you know. So the one of the things that you know, you read and you research in there walking, some, swimming, some, some simple movements to get the blood flowing Right.
Speaker 3:Low impact, low impact, and it's real. It's real. I mean, like I, I could, um, I took my walk. I didn't know if I could put my shoes on this morning. Wow, um, it was that. Now, there's nothing wrong, you know, and everything else is pretty normal, but, um, yeah, it's, uh, it's real. So, uh, you know, learning and uh, adapting and being gentle and yeah, and what a great, great.
Speaker 2:And I know you guys have that uh, your next really, uh, big event. Well, you guys are probably doing another big event before then, but the one that you're all getting geared up for is the 125 mile in Arizona. That'll be brand. You know, unless you guys fly out there, there's probably not going to be any recon going on out there, unless you fly out there, you know, between now and then and do some recon. But that that's not. That's not like living where you live now, where you can just drive, you know 30 minutes and do some recon. So we'll see how that all turns out.
Speaker 2:But I'm I'm glad you guys did this and I'm glad you all the things you learned and and experienced it, because now you got to. You know, when you cross that finish line, uh, at the 50 mile, you know, I don't know if it, if it crossed your mind at all, it was like, man, can I do 75 more? You know, because, uh, that's where, that's where you're going to be in in about a year from now. You know it's uh, you know what. You're not going to even be asking the question. You guys have that mindset where we're showing up and we're going to see what happens and so, uh, and you guys are great at getting prepared for that stuff, so I look forward to see how you elevate, how you learn and how you adapt, as you guys continue to grow in this season of your lives of just ultra running. Really excited, really excited.
Speaker 3:And it's that time of the podcast.
Speaker 2:Go deep, go deep, and Daryl's going to share some cards with me, because right now he has the hand of all the cards, man and so, but by next week, daryl, I got to meet up with you and get some of them cards off you.
Speaker 3:I will, I will, I will. There's a whole bunch of them.
Speaker 3:So we actually did. We had the cards, we broke them out, I put them in my little backpack and and a little Ziploc bag and I broke them out and we Eric said, um, um, he's like we got to stop for a second Cause it was dark. So we had to, like, shine our light so we could see. So we're, we're reading these, just so you know, in the middle of the night, um, you know, and everything else. So one of uh, this is a um, uh, there's, remember, there's icebreakers, deep and deeper. I've got a deep and deeper one. So the deep one was what movie did you see when you were younger that you probably shouldn't have seen? So it was like what movie would you have seen that maybe you were too young? You're like man, I probably shouldn't have seen? So it's like what movie would you have seen that maybe you were too young? You're like man, I probably shouldn't have seen that as a kid. Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, well, my sister was huge into the scary movies. I, probably when I was really little, I think, when Exorcist first came out or something like that, yeah, and I was just a little kid, you know. So yeah, so I saw a lot of scary movies that I probably shouldn't have seen and that, but that's one that sticks out.
Speaker 3:And so I was thinking the same thing man I saw. I was a scared kid man. I hated scary movies. I remember seeing Poltergeist, okay, and uh, the same thing man. I just I was one of those kids. I didn't like scary movies and somebody took.
Speaker 2:Like I think it's one of the ones. I went, saw it at the theater I have no idea how it got in and I watched that one that scared me to death. So and you know what's funny I do, I do like scary. Well, I think I like scary movies. But you know what I'm gonna just say this out here publicly is I don't watch scary movies at night by myself, and so maybe I am scared of scary movies. But you know, if it's daytime I'll watch a scary movie, but for me it kind of ruins the effect. But and if I'm by myself, because then I'll be hearing shit under the couch or under the bed, you know I'm like I don't know, I want to deal with that in my head at night by myself. So yeah, but I do like it. You know, if I'm with the group or something, I love a scary movie man, especially the. You know they make you jump and all that stuff. So all right, what you got for the next question.
Speaker 3:All right, the next one is a little deeper right. All right, bring it on Um. What advice do you want to get from people but sometimes you don't like what they actually tell you. Oh. So what advice do you want from other people that sometimes, uh, you know, you know, after they give it to you you're like oh man, why did I ask for that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, I have built up that skill set. When I worked with teams, I worked in youth ministry for 17 years and one of the questions or one of the things I used to almost demand from my team was like, hey, you guys are really great at celebrating me and telling me what a great job I did. I said, but that's not shit, that makes me grow. That's not what's going to make this ministry grow. I need to know where I'm doing poorly or I can prove, or what went terrible. I need to know the hard stuff that no one wants to talk about.
Speaker 2:So I like that advice and there have been a very less than a handful of people in my life who are cause, daryl, when you ask for that, there's not many people are going to stand up and step into that for you. It's a hard. It's it's hard to tell somebody, hey, that that speech kind of sucked, you know. So, yeah, so you know I don't. When I've asked, when I've asked for it and received it, I've noticed that there are times where not every time, but there are times when I'm like, ah, damn it. You know, couldn't you just focus on something that you know I did well in that talk or something like that. You know, but but then you know then that that dissipates and I'm like thank you for sharing that. I needed to hear that. I needed to hear that. So, yeah, I guess that that answers the question there.
Speaker 3:All right, I'll answer the same thing, since I'm being, I'll give you the cards.
Speaker 3:I will. I didn't do that last time but I'll. I figured I'd do it this time. Yeah, so definitely, you know. Uh, I'm always, you know, getting dressed going out. That doesn't have to be like like getting dressed up. I'll say hey, Josephine, you know how do I look? Do you like this outfit? Or something like this. How do I look? Is this okay, like, and that used to be a, it was just a confirmation. Yeah, you look nice. That's not who I married. She's like. You asked so you go yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what you asked, so I'm going to tell you by the way, it's all, just you know, I wouldn't wear that shirt and you know, the the shorts probably aren't the right ones either. Um, and then she'll go put something out and everything else and I'll put them on and I'm kind of like, and then she's like, and uh, by the way, you should tweeze those eyebrows too. So she not only comments on my, my things, but she adds onto it.
Speaker 1:She's all since we're here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, since we're here, let me just fine tune you real good.
Speaker 1:Damn sis, you got to go easy.
Speaker 3:No, but that's but. I ask, I ask for the advice and I get it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that you know what? That's a great. I know where we have a book study and a Bible study and I think in the Bible study, we're going to go into a season where we're going to be looking at each other's gifts and stuff and that might be a great thing to really encourage and step into. It's going to be hard, but we should we really should, because there's a lot of benefit when we can. There's a benefit in learning how to tell someone they need to improve something and there's a benefit in learning how to hear it. You know, there's a lot of growth that comes from both sides of that. So, uh, let's, let's, let's look into that and lean into that, moving forward. All right, d sounds good. All right, brother. Well, great episode. Congratulations again. And let's just wrap this up how we do now. Let's just say god bless and peace out, peace out, we're out.